1 Numerologist vs 10 Skeptics | Outnumbered #4 | DSH #2047

Summary

Digital Social Hour – Episode Summary

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Episode: 1 Numerologist vs 10 Skeptics | Outnumbered #4 | DSH #2047
Date: July 3, 2026

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Overview

This explosive episode of Digital Social Hour features self-proclaimed numerologist Gary as he faces off against ten skeptics and contrarian voices in a high-octane, combative roundtable. The conversation veers through heated debates on gender, voting rights, the legitimacy of numerology, religion and morality, the threat (or promise) of AI, capitalism vs. socialism, and more. Moderator Sean Kelly tries, with mixed success, to keep the discussion productive and on track.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Numerology Meets Skepticism (00:00–18:00, 78:52–201:10)

Numerology Claims and Demonstrations

• Gary champions numerology, asserting it underpins everything from pandemics ("19 is the number of bad health... COVID-19, 19th amendment, that's a cancer" – Gary, [00:00]) to individuals' fates and wealth (such as Elon Musk and Bill Gates being born on the 28th).
• He claims: "Once you know what to look for, that is what numerology and astrology provides." ([124:47])
• Repeated invitations to challenge him in live ‘readings,’ betting substantial sums that he can accurately analyze people blindfolded ([79:35], [185:38]).

Critique and Pushback

• Skeptics hammer his lack of rigorous, falsifiable statistics. Andrew Wilson and Justin Admiral challenge the predictive accuracy and scientific validity: "Anybody can make lots of predictions and point to the ones you got right" (Andrew Wilson, [69:12]), and “You're a snake oil salesman... there's nothing of substance, right?” (Justin Admiral, [178:12]).
• Doubts about selective reasoning—confirmation bias, environmental influence, and moving goalposts—are repeatedly raised: “When you make claims... Isn't there a chance that you're just on a heater?” ([115:12])

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2. The 19th Amendment, Gender, and Voting Rights (19:20–41:41)

• Gary launches a crusade against the 19th Amendment (women’s suffrage), blaming it for societal decline: "Almost every cancer in society goes back to giving women the right to vote" ([01:27]).
• Shaman Omar and others contest the logic and morality, noting that “you can't take out 52% of any society and say they can or can't do anything" ([03:37]).
• Gary doubles down, calling for massive disenfranchisement—women, gay men, trans people, and the “mentally ill” ([17:43]): "They shouldn't have any rights at all. Which means the only thing they should have a right to do is to be a slave."
• Rollo Tomassi offers the "skin in the game" theory: restrict voting to those who serve or contribute (military, civil services); "It's not so much about being... a landowner or a farmer... what can you contribute back to society that would earn you a right" ([22:23]).
• Notable Quote: “They always vote communist... get rid of their votes, and we have nothing but Republicans” (Cobra, [15:32])

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3. Morality, Religion, and the Roots of "Right & Wrong" (141:45–171:19)

• Accusations fly that Gary's "independent moral compass" is actually rooted in Abrahamic values (Andrew Wilson, [152:02]).
• Gary rejects religious doctrine: “I reject all those books. And guess what? I have... superior intellect” ([153:13]), calling sacred texts and Jesus “demon” constructs ([135:37]).
• The debate devolves into arguments about common sense, environmental influence, and the nature of moral intuition versus social/religious programming.
• Notable Exchange:
  • Andrew: “Prior to Christianity... nobody cared about the poor people lying in the street. This was a uniquely Christian value.” ([153:19])
  • Gary: “I don't need your Bible to tell me it's wrong to kill people.” ([164:49])
  • Andrew: “But who decides what that is?” ([165:14])
• Arguments recur throughout about whether logic and common sense are truly “innate” or socialized.

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4. AI, the Economy, and the Future of Work (50:10–95:48, 125:36–128:17)

• Gary paints a dystopian vision: "AI is going to destroy the whole economy... it's going to lead to communism and socialism. And that's why this piece of Musk is one of the most evil son of a bitches on the planet." ([83:25])
• Contrasting, Justin Admiral and others see promise: “The AI, for example, is going to save capitalism. It's going to save capital.” ([84:55])
• The debate cycles through historical parallels (Industrial Revolution, automation), inevitability of job loss, and whether universal basic income is coming (and if so, is that socialism?).
• The role of China and AI is invoked as a geopolitical threat (“China is going to flood the American market with cheap AIs” – Gary, [62:26]).
• Moderator’s attempt at closure: “Let’s tie this up in a pretty bow in two minutes.” ([55:50])

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5. Capitalism, Socialism & American Exceptionalism (125:11–137:55, 191:15–194:06)

• Gary claims: “I don't give a if every country on this earth burns. I don’t care as long as America stays number one.” ([137:40])
• Debate over who benefits from existing systems—capitalist, socialist, or something else. Black Americans as an example of capitalist success ([193:26]), yet others claim “capitalism is destroying humanity.” ([191:13])
• On American military dominance: “Yes, I will do whatever is needed to be done to keep America on top. And that means drop another nuke. So be it.” ([171:04])
• Multiple guests express fundamental distrust in globalist, collectivist, or multicultural models.

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6. Social Commentary—Gender, Family, and Degeneracy (multiple timestamps)

• Rancorous, often misogynistic (and anti-LGBT) claims from Gary about the alleged degeneracy resulting from feminism and social change ([10:31], [146:14]): “Every OnlyFans creator would be stripped of every penny... I don’t believe in democracy. I’m a goddamn fascist.”
• Repeated insistence on nuclear family, women’s sexuality as a source of social decline, and “beta males” arising from single-mother households.
• Notable Quote: "Dear men of America, if your wife isn’t a virgin, apologize to your kids for their mother being a whore." ([147:11])

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7. Numerology, Astrology & Patterns in Human Success (120:59–125:26, 124:43–125:11, 189:09–200:52)

• Gary’s core plank: birthdays and numbers correlate with success, IQ, and fate. Strong focus on “old souls” (11s, 22s, 33s) as natural leaders, visionaries, or “intellectuals.”
• Names Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs (all with birthdays tied to "28") as proof of the wealth pattern, with similar numeric claims across sports, looks, and charisma.
• Frequently rebuffed: “You pick out a few people, right? Like Elon Musk and Bill Gates... There’s a lot of wealthy people, obviously.” ([121:49], [121:59])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the 19th Amendment (Women’s Suffrage):

  • “Almost every cancer in society goes back to giving women the right to vote.” – Gary, [01:27]
  • “Women, gay men, transsexuals, mentally ill—none of them should vote.” – Gary, [17:43]

• On Numerology Predictive Claims:

  • “Once you eliminate that single mother issue... then you can start looking at the rape epidemic.” – Gary, [08:54]
  • “If you have kids born on the 28th, it increases your wealth... Now we have the first trillionaire on the planet, and he’s born on the 28th.” – Gary, [70:52]

• On Capitalism/America First:

  • “As long as America stays number one... I wouldn’t care if every country burns.” – Gary, [137:40]
  • “I’m not going to wife up a ran through fucking whore.” – Gary, [183:11] ([147:11], [113:05], [135:14])

• On AI’s Threat:

  • “AI is going to destroy the whole economy. AI is coming for your jobs.” – Gary, [54:14]
  • “When these poor people start rebelling... it’s going to be AI robots with no conscience that will gun these people down like pigs.” – Gary, [33:33], [84:28]

• On Religion and Morality:

  • “I don't need your Bible to tell me it's wrong to kill people.” – Gary, [164:49]
  • “You stole your morality from Christianity.” – Andrew Wilson, [152:26]
  • “The real God, the real prime creator, he's gonna throw you on the deep end and see if you sink or swim.” – Gary, [135:56]

• On Debate Tactics:

  • “Put your money where your mouth is... I'll be blindfolded and I will read 20 people like a book.” – Gary, [79:35], [185:38]
  • “If you can't bet your money, shut the fuck up.” – Cobra, [79:55]

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Section Timestamps – Major Segments

• [00:00–15:00] | Introduction to numerology, anti-19th Amendment stance, definitions
• [16:00–41:00] | Gender/voting debate, pushing “repeal the 19th” logic, intro of “skin in the game” democracy, Rollo Tomassi & Gary blueprinting their ideal system
• [50:00–96:00] | AI, the future of work, economic structure, UBI, and capitalism vs socialism
• [141:00–173:16] | Religion, personal morality, origin of values, direct Bible/Christianity/logic confrontations
• [175:14–201:10] | Closing “hot seat” rounds with individual guests, numerology’s intellectual hierarchy, wrap-up

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Tone and Style

• Raw, adversarial, no-filter: Heated language, vulgarity, personal attacks, hyper-masculine posture.
• **Frequent derision of “liberals,” “communists,” “degenerates,” with unapologetic bigotry towards women, LGBT, and other minorities in certain comments.
• Heavy self-promotion: Gary frequently boasts of his millionaire status; “Michael Jordan of my space”; plugging his app and numerology consulting.
• Pushback and attempts at fact-checking: Skeptics hold the line (and sometimes get personal in return), toggling between evidence-based reasoning and provocative snipes.

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Takeaway for Listeners

This unrestrained roundtable takes numerology, pseudoscience, gender politics, AI anxiety, and the culture war and mashes them into unruly, often offensive debate. While incisive at times about cultural anxieties (AI, “American decline,” role of religion), the claims are most valuable as insight into rising reactionary (and contrarian) worldviews online.

Listeners should be prepared for controversial, often inflammatory content, but will get a full dose of how numerology is used rhetorically as both a lifestyle brand and a lens for personal and social destiny—alongside fiery counterattacks from vocal critics.

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For Further Reference

• Notable numerology claims: Tying “28” to wealth; “11” to athleticism; major world events to hidden numerical patterns.
• Debate on voting: “Skin in the game” reforms; trade-offs between enfranchisement and merit.
• Future of work: AI’s impact on jobs and class structure; fear vs. opportunity narratives.
• Morality, religion, and cultural decline: Arguments over roots of right/wrong, and the ongoing battle for “authentic” society.

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All quotes retained original tone and language. Ads and non-content sections skipped. See above for timestamps on key exchanges.

Transcript

[Gary]

19 is the number of bad health. It is no coincidence it was called COVID 19. And it was no coincidence that the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote, because that's a cancer. Well, I don't think I have the

[Shaman Omar]

moral high ground to decide who gets to vote. But you apparently do. So I was going to ask you about that.

[Gary]

This piece of musk is one of the most evil son of A on the planet.

[Cobra]

He might be an accolade for the Antichrist himself.

[Andrew Wilson]

You made a prediction about Elon, and this was about 14 months ago, that he would have the worst year of his life.

[Cobra]

You could not possibly.

[Gary]

They're going to have AI Terminators. And when these poor people start rebelling, it's not going to be standing armies trying to suppress the people. It's going to be AI robots with no conscience that will gun these people down like pigs.

[Justin Admiral]

The AI for example, is going to save capitalism. It's going to save capital. Yeah, because if we don't use it,

[Gary]

China is going to explain to me why 2% society controls 55% of the money. You can call them Crips, you can call them criminals, you can say whatever they want. I agree with a lot lot with Islam. Sharia law is something I would implement. No one should be drinking alcohol. No one should be eating pork. Women need to cover the up.

[Cobra]

But.

[Moderator Sean]

Okay, Shaman Gary, your prompt is the 19th amendment should be repealed. I'll leave it to you gentlemen.

[Gary]

Well, 100%. The 19th Amendment should be repealed. Almost every cancer in society goes back to giving women the right to vote. Kind sir. Who are you?

[Shaman Omar]

Shaman Omar here.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Shaman Omar]

Nice to meet you, Rick.

[Gary]

Are you vaccinated?

[Shaman Omar]

No.

[Gary]

Okay, outstanding. At least we got. At least we got something over here, man.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gary]

I'm vaccinated. So tell me about the 19th Amendment. You for it or against it?

[Shaman Omar]

I'm vaccinated from all, including your position.

[Gary]

And what's my position?

[Shaman Omar]

That 19th amendment should be repealed.

[Gary]

So you want women to vote?

[Shaman Omar]

No, I just want to know, like,

[Gary]

what do you mean, yes or no? It's either yes or a no answer.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, I don't think I have the moral high ground to decide who gets the vote. But you apparently do. So I was going to ask 100%. So anyone else that should not be able to vote or should be able to vote.

[Gary]

I mean, I don't think people who are mentally ill should vote.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay.

[Gary]

I don't think murderers should vote.

[Shaman Omar]

How about black people? Can they vote?

[Gary]

Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, if you're talking about black people. Yeah. If you're talking about ends, probably not black women. No, no. Black women, black, white women, women, Italian women, Russian women, Muslim women, Catholic women,

[Cobra]

they all shouldn't vote.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay. And the world would be a better place.

[Gary]

Much better.

[Shaman Omar]

America will be thriving.

[Gary]

I mean, if you look at America, if you look at the statistics, when America was at its peak, unchallenged, that was about right after World War II, 1945. So in 1950s, that's when the women had the white picket fence. That's when we actually had mothers. Not. That's when we actually have women raising the kids because the men were doing the work. That's when actually society, like, made sense because we had a nuclear family. Now we have a whole bunch of degeneracy. And it all comes back to the 19th Amendment.

[Shaman Omar]

So that's the singular reason, basically, white picket fence, women weren't whores, Women couldn't vote in the 1950s.

[Gary]

I mean, they could vote in 1950s. But I'm just telling you, it took a while from the first wave of feminism, because the first wave of feminism maybe had some points. Now we're in the third, fourth wave of feminism, and all they care about is, you know, keeping their legs open 247 and getting on board.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, it's an epidemic. I'm not going to argue against that. We're in the middle of a tidal wave of, of the bullshit, obviously.

[Gary]

Okay, so what's, what's your, what's your stance here?

[Shaman Omar]

Well, my position is, is that it's the idea that we have the decision that we can take out 52% of any society and say they can or can't do anything.

[Gary]

So are women more emotional or logical than men?

[Shaman Omar]

Obviously emotional.

[Justin Admiral]

Depends.

[Shaman Omar]

Are they?

[Gary]

Why would you, like, why would you want emotional people voting? Like, it's a fact. It's a fact that women voted for John F. Kennedy because he was better looking than the other guy. Is this the type of voting base you want? Or, you know, like, clavicular, says we shouldn't vote for. What's his name, the vice president, because he's J.D. vance.

[Shaman Omar]

Club Victor is a woman too. So what are we talking about?

[Gary]

I mean, I mean, I don't. I wouldn't call him a woman, but

[Shaman Omar]

I'm not trying to.

[Gary]

Like, he basically says a few things that I wouldn't. I would agree with and disagree with, but at the end of the day, this culture needs to end.

[Shaman Omar]

Is he not part of the culture?

[Gary]

He's a man. I would say that's a different conversation.

[Shaman Omar]

So he's a man. So that's the ideal of a man. If, if we.

[Gary]

I'm.

[Cobra]

Listen, brother, I didn't get here on my looks, okay?

[Gary]

So I'm not doing that looks maxing.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, I kind of did, but so what?

[Gary]

Really?

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Oh, damn.

[Shaman Omar]

Sure.

[Gary]

Maybe you need to help the CL a little bit more, you know, maybe.

[Shaman Omar]

And what? Learn. You wear makeup and learn how to have premature ejaculation. You wear makeup, Learn how to take.

[Gary]

I'm asking, do you wear wig, makeup? I mean, you said your looks, Max, so I'm asking.

[Shaman Omar]

I'm not. I never said looks, Maxine.

[Gary]

So what are you doing with Colette?

[Shaman Omar]

I'm not getting plastic surgery and taking testosterone.

[Gary]

Or should you?

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah. Okay, so now I'm not looks maxing.

[Moderator Sean]

You guys are going way so far

[Shaman Omar]

off this better topic now.

[Cobra]

You want to talk about Clav all day? No, I don't.

[Shaman Omar]

No, but you're. So my point is, is that in my opinion, that guy, and he's a young guy and he's going to figure it out. So I'm not trying to like attack a 20 year old guy. But the point is, is that if we're looking at him as a, as a, as an epicenter of masculinity in our world. From my perspective, 46 year old. I'm not projecting it on you. I'm saying from the youth perspective. Right. We have girls, you said, spreading their legs and, and only fans. But I would say we have an epidemic with that, with guys as well. And as a 46 year old man, father of four, I don't want my son to be like that guy either

[Gary]

because I think he's a girl. Of guys being whores.

[Shaman Omar]

No, being bitches.

[Cobra]

50% of guys can't even get a fucking woman.

[Gary]

They're over here on watching pornography and jacking off. Here's a.

[Cobra]

Here's a fact.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, but that's called being a. That's called being a. Would you.

[Gary]

Here's a fact. 58% of women are 10 of the guys.

[Cobra]

So most of the guys are not actually getting women.

[Shaman Omar]

Where the did you get this statistic?

[Gary]

That's, that's a proven statistic.

[Shaman Omar]

Really? It's proven how?

[Gary]

I mean, all you can do is work on statistics to take it online. Let's pull it up. 8% of women.

[Moderator Sean]

Guys a little like iffy on this one.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Cobra]

You think 58% of the world, 58%

[Gary]

of women are the top 10% of guys flat the hell out.

[Shaman Omar]

Top 10% of guys. Based off what? What?

[Gary]

Based off money mostly status and things of that nature.

[Cobra]

So.

[Shaman Omar]

So Bill Gaze has a harem of.

[Gary]

No, but Elon Musk does about 12 of them.

[Cobra]

About 12 of them.

[Gary]

He's got how many the richest man

[Cobra]

in the world got 12 and 12 kids or 13.

[Shaman Omar]

So explain that one and all them can vote too. Right.

[Gary]

So unfortunately.

[Shaman Omar]

And he can vote.

[Gary]

I mean, he is a man.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah. So because he's a man. So we can have a full blown. Not saying that, Elon Musk, but we can have a guy who is like full blown.

[Gary]

I said if they're socially retarded.

[Shaman Omar]

Socially retarded.

[Gary]

What does that mean, socially?

[Shaman Omar]

Like being a fucking dumbass.

[Gary]

Explain.

[Cobra]

Elaborate.

[Shaman Omar]

Let's say thinking Kamala Harris should have been the president.

[Gary]

I mean, I don't think anyone sitting at this table thinking, come out. It should have been.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, I mean we're the. I'm the first person you've met today, so we don't know.

[Gary]

I mean, anyone here think Harry should be president? Okay, there you go, bro.

[Shaman Omar]

Then Sean should bring in new clients for you because you.

[Cobra]

I'm good cooking you, bro. This is entertaining.

[Shaman Omar]

You're not cooking anything. But my point is, is that the men that you're talking about, I think the majority of the people that. The way masculinity is going is the exact problem that you identify with. Women's library. I see it happening with men right now. They're betas.

[Gary]

Name some beta male men. Okay, whatever. He's the 20 year old kid. What else?

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, well, I don't know what other 20 year old guys are famous right now for.

[Gary]

Exactly. So you said you, you presented him

[Shaman Omar]

like some high level masculine.

[Gary]

No, I didn't say that.

[Cobra]

That at all.

[Gary]

What I said was he's on top of the food chain when it comes to influencers right now. And that's a fact.

[Shaman Omar]

So you don't think the fact that this guy's talking about like premature ejaculation, not being able to get hard taking.

[Gary]

I don't, I don't agree with many of his takes. No.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, those are bitch characteristics. So why would I want a guy who, who presents himself as a. Voting as a man either under your worldview?

[Gary]

Well, here's the thing.

[Shaman Omar]

So we have to have a line.

[Gary]

So here's the problem. When it comes to men voting, there is an issue with them too. But it all, it all goes back to feminism because a lot of these beta male, as you call them, were raised by single mothers. So you See, this is. The cycle repeats. You have a who won't close her legs. She has a whole bunch of kids. All these kids turned out to be beta males. Voting for that from San Francisco, Camila Harris. But it all goes back to feminism, my friend. That's where the root calls from. Again, can we both agree that is like one of the worst things you can do?

[Shaman Omar]

100%.

[Gary]

Okay. Once you look this up on AI, 85% of the rapist in prison were raised by single mothers. So once you eliminate that single mother issue, which means eliminating these from actually keeping their legs closed because they have the right to vote, they feel they can do whatever they want. Now, once you get that problem under control, then you can start looking at the rape epidemic. The. Let's see, green light it.

[Leo]

Yeah.

[Cobra]

Oh, wow. I actually agree with that.

[Shaman Omar]

You're at 50% with your numerology.

[Cobra]

I didn't even. I didn't even do any numerology.

[Shaman Omar]

58% of the women are 10% of the guys. I'm still waiting for the AI on that one.

[Cobra]

This is 85, right? I mean, so he's already lost the

[Gary]

point on this one, so he wants to talk about numerology.

[Cobra]

No, hold on. Let's talk about new roll on.

[Shaman Omar]

One moment. You said 58 of the women are 10 of the guys. Yes, and we're still waiting for that to be proven. So that's 50. 50.

[Rollo Tomassi]

50.

[Gary]

I mean, at the end of the day, women are okay if they're sharing a top 10% guy. Women are okay with that. I don't think they're not okay with a loser.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay.

[Gary]

Because they will leave his ass.

[Shaman Omar]

I think that probably. Let's just say 70. We would probably agree on, on the social stuff. It sounds like just from the way this conversation is going, I just don't understand why you think that having women having the right to vote or not having the right to vote is going to actually fix anything. You're saying, like, I can vote, so now I'm going to go 100 guys. That's the thought process. Oh, so women, Women can't vote?

[Gary]

It starts with voting, then it leads to jobs. Okay, so when women were actually staying at the house.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

And raising the kids, then they were dependent on their man for money, which means they actually were good housewives. Which actually means they're not going around to nightclubs getting drunk. They don't have their own money to do that. So back in the day, they would have to abide by certain rules. Now they make their own money they don't give a fuck about morality. They don't give a fuck about raising kids anymore. They just want to be whores.

[Shaman Omar]

But how does.

[Gary]

And that's the problem.

[Shaman Omar]

Where does voting. How. Of the list of things that could be the causation of that, which would be environment, social acceptability, media, television. Right. Movies and so on. Why does voting go up on that list?

[Gary]

Because voting is what gave them. Is what led the snowball going down the hill, which is where we're at right now. You take away their right to vote, everything will fall back into place. That is the biggest evil. And since you brought up numerology, I mean, we might as well bring it up 19. 19 is the number of bad health. It is no coincidence there was called COVID 19. And it was no conv. Coincidence that the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote, because that's a cancer. They even have the numerology in that one, my friend.

[Shaman Omar]

Should I actually respond to that? I mean.

[Gary]

I mean, it's up to you if you want to.

[Moderator Sean]

We do have that prompt saved for later in terms of the. The numerology, so I would prefer to hold it.

[Gary]

Yeah, well, have a tie in.

[Shaman Omar]

No, the tie.

[Cobra]

We are Chef Boyardee. We got a whole bunch of cooking here.

[Shaman Omar]

I'm more of like a gourmet chef. Lamb chops and.

[Gary]

But a lamb shot, you know, I would prefer steak Kobe.

[Justin Admiral]

Nice.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeehaw. We'll just leave the plandemic alone, right? Are we allowed to talk about that yet?

[Cobra]

Talk about whatever the fuck you want.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, so women not being able to vote. Women being able to vote. I would say that there's an equal amount of retarded men that shouldn't be able to vote as women.

[Gary]

Now we already talked about that, the circular argument. I said a lot of those men were raised by single mothers.

[Shaman Omar]

But that doesn't. We can't have on the application name citizenship.

[Gary]

Why not?

[Shaman Omar]

Was you were raised by a single mother. Because.

[Gary]

Why not?

[Shaman Omar]

Because it doesn't make any sense.

[Gary]

What do you mean it doesn't make any sense?

[Shaman Omar]

How are they going to check?

[Gary]

We're going to have a whole department. No, if I'm hiring someone, I'm going to ask if they know their daddy's name.

[Shaman Omar]

No voting.

[Gary]

Especially if they're black. No, no, I'm going to ask if they know their daddy's name.

[Cobra]

I'm going to ask if they have

[Gary]

a good relationship with their mother.

[Cobra]

I'm going to ask those type of

[Gary]

questions because I want certain employees that are actually Loyal. And when I. This is free game to you guys out there. When you guys actually hire your employees, you want to ask if they have a good relationship with their mom. You want to ask if they have a good relationship with their dad, because if they do, they tend to be more on the loyal side. If they start talking about their mom and dad, nah, you're probably not going to get hired, pimp, because I don't want you around.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, that's moving the goalpost. We were talking about voting and you said hiring.

[Cobra]

You just moved the dirt.

[Shaman Omar]

Then I'll move it to. Hey, guys out there, if you're going to marry a girl, make sure you meet her father and he's a good man.

[Gary]

Make sure you know her body count too.

[Shaman Omar]

They could lie on that too. Unless we've held.

[Gary]

I mean, listen, unfortunately, you know, you can't really test that. But, you know, I, I, I did do one thing different than most guys. I actually married a Muslim woman.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay.

[Gary]

And the reason I married the western woman is because I wanted a woman who was a virgin. Because to me, that actually matters. You know, there's so many rich guys in America. Like, you have billionaires, you have millionaires, you even have a trillionaire. But you know, the one thing they don't have is a good woman. You know the.

[Cobra]

If you go back. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You go back to 100.

[Gary]

You go back 150 years ago. 150 years ago, the poor guy working in the some factory and like that they went home to a virgin wife. That means they were the only one that now you have millionaires and billionaires going through ran through horrors.

[Cobra]

You ask me, I'd rather be the poor guy in the 1800s than Elon Musk because I want my brand new. I don't want you voting.

[Shaman Omar]

It sounds like you, like you have a good argument and they're like pointing out the problem.

[Gary]

By the way, you're jumping from one thing to another. I'm answering your question.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, I'm going back to the whole point of the night.

[Gary]

Yeah, and I already said women should not vote. Women should not vote.

[Shaman Omar]

So let me ask you a question. As far as did you vote for

[Gary]

Harris or Trump bro?

[Shaman Omar]

Are you.

[Gary]

I'm asking you a question.

[Shaman Omar]

Shut off this podcast.

[Cobra]

Did you vote for Harris or Trump bro? Never.

[Shaman Omar]

Harris, are you okay?

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Gary]

Outstanding. So you're obviously more of a capitalist than the communist. Correct.

[Shaman Omar]

That was a troll. He knows God.

[Cobra]

Yes. Yes or no?

[Shaman Omar]

Huh?

[Cobra]

I'm making clips here, you know. Well, I didn't go for Harris.

[Gary]

Okay, so you're a capitalist and not a communist, correct?

[Shaman Omar]

Yes, of course.

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Gary]

Most women voted for Kamala Harris,

[Shaman Omar]

so the most gay guys.

[Gary]

So they shouldn't vote either. Okay, so at least we're getting somewhere.

[Cobra]

There you go.

[Gary]

No, no, they shouldn't vote either. Gay guys shouldn't vote?

[Cobra]

Hell no.

[Gary]

They shouldn't have any.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, so let me ask you.

[Cobra]

Okay, so wait a second. I just explained to you why women shouldn't vote.

[Gary]

They always vote communist. They always want socialist.

[Cobra]

Why do you want women voting for Kamala Harris? Why do you want women voting for the Democratic party? Get rid of their votes, and we have nothing but Republicans.

[Shaman Omar]

Kamala Harris even be allowed to run, is the question.

[Cobra]

Oh, no, this is.

[Gary]

She's be her other.

[Cobra]

She should be allowed to run.

[Shaman Omar]

How the can someone run if they can't vote? You say?

[Gary]

Very simple. If a man decides you can. She want. He wants to vote for you, then he votes for you.

[Shaman Omar]

It's like a litmus test, and they get stoned to death, like, biblically.

[Gary]

I mean, whatever you want to call it. But like, for instance, you know, Margaret Thatcher, she was probably a good woman. You know, I think she was a good woman. And what she did for Margaret Thatcher was a. I mean, she got a lot of done from a conservative side. So, like, I. I believe women should run, but they shouldn't be able to boat.

[Moderator Sean]

I see over here squirming in his seat, getting excited, wanting to jump in this seat. So I'll.

[Cobra]

All right, brother, give us your last

[Gary]

talk before we're going to get Rollo in here.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, I was just warming up to the point, so I was just rolling him in circles.

[Cobra]

Damn, this takes a while with you.

[Shaman Omar]

No, I'm just letting you give. You know, like, let you get roasting on it and then, like, bring it. Circle. Well, the question is. Is like, okay, so women shouldn't vote.

[Gary]

Nope.

[Shaman Omar]

Gay men shouldn't vote.

[Gary]

I mean, you just said there's a lot. There's a lot of stuff. I think. So we're gonna do. Okay, so it shouldn't be around kids. They shouldn't be wrong because you're just

[Shaman Omar]

trying to warm my heart out.

[Gary]

They shouldn't be around kids either.

[Shaman Omar]

Flat out agreed with. With.

[Gary]

By the way, is that Christian cross?

[Shaman Omar]

No, bro. Okay, just one Harris Christian cross. Anything else?

[Gary]

No, I'm. I mean, like, a lot of people wear Christian crosses, but the same.

[Shaman Omar]

Is that real cobra skin on that Cobra?

[Gary]

Probably not, but it's not. It's diamonds, though. But when it comes down to it, like, damn, I'm over here trying to cook. You're interrupting, man. But when it comes down to kids in general, they shouldn't be around homosexuals either.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay? Are you familiar with moving the goalposts in a debate?

[Gary]

You've been moving them back and forth, so.

[Shaman Omar]

No, I've been bringing it back to the actual subject of the amendment.

[Gary]

Bring up what you want about the 19th Amendment. I already told you why women shouldn't vote. They're too emotional.

[Moderator Sean]

Two more minutes to figure it out.

[Gary]

Go ahead.

[Shaman Omar]

Women no vote, correct?

[Gary]

Correct.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay. Gay men. You said no vote. Correct.

[Gary]

Transsexuals, too. If you want to add that to the list.

[Shaman Omar]

The whole lgbt.

[Gary]

Not lgbt. Mentally ill people.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay.

[Gary]

I said in the very beginning, mentally ill people shouldn't vote.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay.

[Gary]

And yes, the rainbow definitely counts.

[Shaman Omar]

Throw it in there.

[Gary]

Right. What else?

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, who else? Any other groups. Foreigners, non citizens, obviously. The basics, right?

[Leo]

I mean.

[Gary]

I mean, Democrats think they should vote, but I don't.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, so is there any other rights that we should take away from any groups of people under your worldview?

[Gary]

They shouldn't have any rights to be taken away in the first place.

[Shaman Omar]

They should have no rights.

[Gary]

They have no rights at all. Which means the only thing they should have a right to do is to be a slave. No, I'm not sure. Be a slave, but, like, hey, guys,

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[Gary]

They should have a right to earn a wage and work hard and make money. They should have a right to do that, but that's about it.

[Shaman Omar]

So they should be able to work?

[Gary]

Yes.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, well, then that defeats your whole argument, because you said that the reason why women started.

[Gary]

I'm talking. I'm talking about homosexuals.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay? I was talking about the whole group of people.

[Gary]

No, women shouldn't vote or work no, no, no.

[Shaman Omar]

Women shouldn't vote or work.

[Gary]

Nope.

[Shaman Omar]

They should just.

[Gary]

They should raise the kids.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay. What if they can't have kids?

[Gary]

Damn. That. That's cooked. Absolutely cooked. Hey, hey, hey, woman. No one's. Now you said some stupid shit like that, not me.

[Cobra]

What's the point? Let me.

[Gary]

Let me make this clear, Ben. If you're a woman and you can't have kids, sorry. Better luck. Next reincarnation.

[Moderator Sean]

All right, let's roll with that one. Thank you, shaman. Let's go ahead and get Rollo in here. That was very well done.

[Pedro]

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[Justin Admiral]

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[Cobra]

Now. Now, the last time. The last time me and Rolo did

[Gary]

a podcast in 2023, the last time me and him did a podcast in 2023, the clips got over a billion clips. Over a billion worth of clips. So me and this man are going to cook. Rolo, I know you're not a feminist. You're the guy who I give credit for starting the red pill movement, so you have my gratitude for that. But talk to me about the 19th Amendment, because I think these women shouldn't do anything.

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'm not going to disagree with you, Obviously. I think that we. Whenever I hear repealers talk about, like, let's repeat, we got to repeal the 19th. You're starting to hear the. That rhetoric right now in the mainstream. Okay, so you'll hear it on cnn. You'll hear it on all this other. Everybody wants to talk about it, and it's the first talking point that you'll get out of, like, really outrageous. Like, Normie, you know, feminist women will, like, just lose their minds, and they will characterize the manosphere with repealers. Okay? So one of the things I've always said is this is like, okay, I understand the sentiment Behind Repeal the 19th problem is, how do you do it?

[Gary]

Like, what.

[Rollo Tomassi]

How on earth are you ever going to do this? Because the people who are going to fight you are not going to be the women so much. It's going to be other guys.

[Gary]

I love you. I love that you said that. Okay, I can answer that one.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So. So that's number one. Number two is this is. If you're going to ask me personally, I think there's two. Two ways you have to sort of approach limiting people's rights to vote. I don't think women should vote, but I also don't think that a lot of men should vote either. Okay.

[Gary]

Homosexual?

[Rollo Tomassi]

Well, no, I mean, just general. Men in general, simply because. And you've probably heard Myron Gaines say this. You probably heard Andrew Wilson said this as well.

[Gary]

I'm his manager. Well, yeah.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So essentially what it is, is it's having skin in the game, which is used. Which used to be a representative form of democratic government. If you go back to Hellenic Greece, if you look how like the beginnings of democracy, it was the people who were the. Who were landowners, it was people who owned farms, people who had some contribution to that society. They were allowed to vote. Okay. So that's. That's number one. I've. If there's any way to reform our. Like a democratic way of representation.

[Gary]

When that happened, Ro.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Having that. Yeah, I was gonna.

[Gary]

When that happened, Rolo. When it was just the landowners voting, there was no middle class. Everyone was poor.

[Cobra]

Now that we have a middle class,

[Gary]

we have what you people were talking about. They have skin in the game, so they should actually vote.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So are you familiar? Well, okay, there's a science fiction writer. His name is Robert Heinlein. Okay. He wrote Starship Troopers. Right?

[Gary]

Okay.

[Rollo Tomassi]

And he wrote that book to express his own political views at that time, particularly when it came to representative democracy. Okay. So if you've seen the movie, if you've read the book, to gain any kind of citizenship in that society, you had to be in the military, you had to be a police officer, you had to be a fireman, you had to have some kind of contribution to that society to enrich or to build that society, have some sort of service to that society so that you could, at that point, you could participate.

[Gary]

I'm with it.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So that's what I'm saying is like, it's not so much about being. Obviously, you're not going to be a landowner or a farmer or something like that, but what can you contribute back to society that would earn you a right? Like one vote.

[Gary]

If someone was in the military, they should count. Correct. If someone's a police officer, someone's a fighter. Fighter. Civil things. FBI agent, someone in. Works in the sanitation, they should all have the right to vote. Correct? I'm with it. I agree. I think that is the best way to move forward. But that is what you do after you repeal the 19th amendment. First you guys take away the plan. You have to.

[Cobra]

Exactly.

[Gary]

So I like the plan afterwards, and I'm with it. But we have to repeal the 19th Amendment and the question becomes, how do we get Women to actually give up their right to vote. That's what the question becomes. And obviously I got the answer for that too, because why would we be here if I didn't? So women hold about what, 75% of the debt in this nation?

[Rollo Tomassi]

More than that? Well, two thirds. I just read the.

[Gary]

So it's anywhere, by the way, 70%. Right.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So that's. So student debt. I just read this recently. Women hold two thirds of the United States student loan debt and that comes out to $929 billion. You can look that up if you want.

[Gary]

I know that I'm giving you the numbers a couple days in Iran.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Yes.

[Gary]

So basically what you have to understand is since women have this debt and we want to get rid of their vote, what me and you and the high earners who are men have to do is we have to cancel their debt. We have to put their debt on our back as men. We have to get rid of their debt. And we basically make this offer to women, dear women, do you have student loan debt? Do you have credit card debt? We as men, we're willing to get rid of it, but you have to get rid of your right to vote.

[Cobra]

I promise you, I promise you they will line up in fucking all, all

[Gary]

over the streets to give up their right to vote as long as their debt is canceled.

[Cobra]

And when their debt is canceled, then

[Gary]

we can go into the society that you were talking about. If you're a firefighter, if you're in the military, then you have something in the economy. Now I also think there should be a two tier economy. Not everyone's good at capitalism. Plenty of people, losers. A lot of people want to be socialists. And now with AI coming and a lot of people who are going to lose their jobs. And by the way, if you don't understand what's going on, AI is coming for your job. Whether you're a doctor, taxi cab driver or a pilot, they're. AI is coming for your job. So let me finish, let me finish. So having said that, the lower classes are going to need some sort of basic income and we're gonna have to tax the robots that are working in the manufacturing jobs. And that's how you have to pay them.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So now you're moving into the restructuring

[Gary]

and then the second, and then the capitalists, they will live outside the system where the government's not giving them anything, but they can still invest in the society. That's the way I think it should move forward.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Let's talk about the now though, okay? So because right now whenever someone, some

[Gary]

norm AI is now.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Well yeah, of course, but like I'm just saying when some like right now, the manosphere as a term is something that people are, well I think is very misunderstood at this point. But it gets slips into because you

[Gary]

had all the grifters like Sneako and

[Cobra]

all those guys who ripped you off

[Gary]

and then they try to make this

[Cobra]

into their movement and then they bastardize

[Gary]

that and now they disavow it. Brother, no one wanted you in the movement in the first place, you grifting Muslim homosexual. All right, back to the point here.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So what happens is when you are, when this topic comes up, they think that this is actually some sort of like part of a bigger ideology. But what they don't understand is this is the guys who are the, what I would refer to as repealers right now, they. It's really easy and it sounds really trendy and it's really fun for a 14 year old boy to go, yeah, repeal the 19th. But the thing is, is when the riots are over, when the anarchy is over, when Antifa has done their thing and, and you know the, in the aftermath of it, nobody has a plan afterwards. No one has a plan for after the riots, no one has a plan for after the revolution. And that's the whole thing I'm getting back to right now. And I like what you're talking about here as far as, you know, leaning towards something that looks like a plan after that. But I think you got to have that in place before you say okay, we're going to repeal the 19th grade. I like that. I like the debt. The debt forgiveness is definitely a prime motivator. I'm actually surprised. I was actually. The problem is this and I've had this conversation with guys like George Gammon before. The problem is that that student debt, the student debt I believe is about either 1.5 or $1.7 trillion right now. And government relies on that debt to borrow against that debt because that debt is actually a good thing for. How do you. So how like when, when Biden wanted to give debt forgiveness to student because that was one of his campaign promises that he like never made good on until 2022 in the midterms. It was essentially a, a stimmy check for women because women hold more student loan debt than, than men do. So it's basically a handout at that point. And it really didn't even take off all that much. But the reason why it didn't take that off that much is because they couldn't give back too much of that money because they relied on that debt in the first place. So my question to you is, how do you get around that them using that particular debt? Because they got to use that to borrow against that for like foreign governments and all the other stuff that they're over leveraged.

[Gary]

I believe that two things. As long as the American petrodollar system is in place, we can have all the debt in the world. It doesn't really matter that much because all it is is recycling those damn petrol dollars. If you guys don't know what the petrodollar system is, you shouldn't even talk about politics. Flat the hell out. As long as that system's in place, I think we can keep going with this Ponzi scheme. But if you're saying, listen, it's no more, kick the can down the road, we got to do something, I think at some point we're going to move into a digital dower. And when that happens, that's when you start. That's when you start, you know, handling that debt or maybe canceling debt or doing things of that nature. Because we need to restructure society and we can't put this debt on our kids. We just can't do it. Because at this point, what are we, 30 some trillion in debt or something like that? And as long as the petrodollar system is moving, we're good. But you know, I'm not too sure they did too many good things over there in Iran. Or you know, you, you destroy the Iranian military, you sink their goddamn navy, you have total military superiority and you still can't win the war. And that just shows you the limits of American power.

[Rollo Tomassi]

It just shows you that they are unwilling or unable to.

[Gary]

Well, I mean, listen, listen,

[Justin Admiral]

you can

[Gary]

win the war right now. You drop a small tactical nuke, it's over. No, I mean it's absolutely over.

[Rollo Tomassi]

It was the same thing in Afghanistan.

[Gary]

I mean, so long because it was

[Rollo Tomassi]

a testing ground for military hardware.

[Gary]

It was just like the Spanish Civil War is the same thing for World War II. But at the end of the day, listen, we can win this war in Iran very quickly. A small tactical nuke will take care of Iran the same way it took care of Japan 1945. But they're unwilling to actually do what they need to do to actually win the war. See, I don't know about you guys in here, but I am privileged. Not because I'm white, not because I'm Jewish. I understand a lot of you guys want to Say I am because of that. I am privileged because I am American. And I want that same American privilege given to my kids and my grandkids. Just like I want all of you guys to have that same privilege if you're Americans. If you're not Americans, you're second class citizens. No one gives a. But if you're an American citizen, we have to fight for that number one spot. And the fact that this administration isn't willing to do it. And this is the best administration I ever lived on under my life. Like Donald Trump, he's the best president I ever lived under. Is that saying he's a great president? That's a whole different conversation. But he's the best president I ever lived under. They will not do what they need to do to keep America number one. And yes, I would rather, I don't care how this sounds.

[Cobra]

I would rather be the guy who's bombing than being the guy in Gaza getting bombed on. Because when you're weak, that's what happens. You get bombed, you get exploited.

[Gary]

But when you're strong, at least within the borders of that nation, you have a good life.

[Cobra]

Someone's always going to have that good

[Gary]

life, guys, and it's either going to

[Cobra]

be us or the Chinese. So I suggest people get their fucking heads out their asses and start understanding this. We need to own the oil. We went in Venezuela, we snatched up that motherfucker in 45 minutes. Maduro, that's exactly what you're supposed to do.

[Gary]

They messed up a little bit on Iran, they're gonna have to fix that somehow. That's up to Trump to decide how to do that. But we need to control the oil. If we don't control the oil within two years, and I mean completely control the oil, we need something to back us when this whole AI economy destroys what we have going on right now. People don't understand.

[Cobra]

You're gonna be without a job. You're.

[Gary]

It's coming for your jobs and you guys are not preparing. Ro, my kid took my kid out of school this year.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Why?

[Gary]

What's the point? What are they going to teach him?

[Cobra]

LGBT feminism? How to be a beta male? That's what they're going to teach him?

[Gary]

No, he's learning AI every freaking day. He's going to make clips of this very podcast. My own 13 year old, the same

[Cobra]

people I was paying 3000, 4000, 5000 a couple years ago to make those clips.

[Gary]

Now my own kid's gonna do that. And guess what? The quality is going to be better Too.

[Rollo Tomassi]

We're coming back to that, though, because

[Gary]

I know that's a topic later on.

[Moderator Sean]

And I actually, I wanted to give you guys maybe just because we're, we're kind of gearing in a different direction.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Let me, I'll see if I can wrap this up really quickly here, though. So, like, everything that you're talking about, like, I remember when people were saying, you know, like the petrodollar thing and all that was going on when we first start, when we first got into it with, with, with Iran, I remember a lot of people who were, had a real problem with it were. It's, it's basically the same rhetoric that you would hear anytime that, you know, anytime we have a military action anywhere, it doesn't matter whether it's minor or it's major. Right. And I think that one of the reasons for that is again, we can come back to sort of the gendering of how we should organize society. So a lot of people are going to watch this and they're going to say, you know what? Why are these guys even discussing, you know, denying women the right to vote?

[Gary]

Because we're better than.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Well, no, let's look at the differences here. Okay, so what happens? Like, you can say that, right? You can say, okay, we're better. Okay, but perhaps. And, and okay, but why are we better? Now here's why we're better. Because what men do is we organize society in hierarchies. Women organize societies in the round. So when you're looking at wealth distribution. Redistribution, redistribution. That's a female, a female way of organizing society. One for you, one for you, one for you. Oh, Sally, you're pregnant. Two for you, one for you, one for you. Everybody gets something, right? It's the participation trophy way of organizing society and then scaling that up from communitarianism to socialism and communism and everything else, because it seems like logic to the female way of organizing society. Men don't do it that way. We organize the guy who's at the top, right? It's a chain of command. It's the admiral, the general, the, you know, lieutenant, all the way down to the private or the ca, CEO, cfo, coo, down to the janitor, right? So we have this chain of command that doesn't, that doesn't seem natural to women. But when you put women into positions of power, they try to force fit that government in the round as opposed to the government in the, in a hierarchy, when we're dropping bombs on Iran, you better bet your ass that's the hierarchy. That is dropping those bombs. It is not the collective. If we're all going to sit in a drum circle and say, should we bomb Iran today? That doesn't work when the urgency is right there. So women are always going to organize society and govern and enforce political power in a much different way than men are. And so my final point here is this, is that men and women are different, right? We are different biologically, we're different psychologically. We have what, gender dimorphism. So like you were bigger, the smaller, that kind of stuff. We're going to find different ways to organize society right now, really, since the, about 1965 ish, right when the hormonal birth control happened. You see all this cascade effect of the sexual revolution, the empowerment of Women, Title 9, Getting More Women into the workplace, getting more women into college and everything. And so you have to go back to that and say what happened then? And where are we right now? Are we looking at a society that has been governed by women for women? Because you will hear women say, well, we just don't have the same representation in, in Congress. We don't have the same representation. It's always the apex fallacy. We don't have a Jeff Bezos, we don't have a, an Elon Musk. And it's like, yeah, you don't have that, but you have the middle of that pyramid just locked in and all these other guys are down at the bottom. It's the apex fallacy, right? They only see the guys at the top. They don't see the, just the swathes of men down at the bottom who are just struggling to get along.

[Gary]

Right now they don't give a fuck about those men.

[Rollo Tomassi]

And why don't they? Because they're in the round. They don't see things in hierarchies. So when you are, again, if we're going to restructure society, we're going to say, hey look, once we repeal the 19th and we also repeal whatever it is that allows men to just vote offhand that you have to contribute something to society in order for you to vote. Once you do that, then you're on board. Myron Gaines will say this, and I agree with him. Men are automatically signed up for selective services, right? That right there. Skin in the game. So if you're a, if you're an 18 year old male and you have in your, well right now you're forced into selective service, technically you are already going to, you're going to be expected to give your life for your country. Should Hit the fan, right? Women are not expected to do that.

[Gary]

So only in Israel, you could say

[Rollo Tomassi]

this, you could say Israel, but we're talking about the United States.

[Gary]

Yeah, okay.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Because that's only where the 19th amendment.

[Gary]

100%.

[Rollo Tomassi]

I should also point this out to you. Just, Just a quick aside is that from a logistical perspective, the 19th Amendment is. Is unconstitutional. And I'll tell you this, because the Constitution was meant to be a union of the states. The right to vote in every state, like male or female, should be distributed to each one of those states that if you want to start somewhere, you repeal the 19th. If you want to start somewhere, start locally. All politics are local. So if you. Right now you got to remember that the Constitution was meant to be sort of a framework so that the states could independently do whatever the fuck they wanted to. So you do something very similar to what? Repealing Roe v. Wade.

[Shaman Omar]

Right?

[Rollo Tomassi]

They didn't repeal Roe v. Wade.

[Gary]

They kicked it back in the states. That's what I said.

[Rollo Tomassi]

What you do is you repeal the 19th and you kick it back to the states, women will lose their fucking minds.

[Gary]

But that's the way it should be. What's going to happen is you're going to have liberal states that let women vote, conservative states that won't, and all the women are going to flock to those states where they're allowed to vote, and you'll lose that vote there forever. I'm not sure that. I'm not sure that's the way that's.

[Rollo Tomassi]

But see, that's the point, though, okay? That's states rights. If you don't like the way we do it in Nevada, go fucking somewhere else. Go to Utah where they'll.

[Cobra]

Where they.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Where you're. Where you're in a better spot.

[Gary]

At the same time. Listen, I want people in this state. I want people say, I'm living over here in Wyoming and this guy's in Colorado. We're in different states. You know, if he's my next door neighbor, if he's doing, you know, crack cocaine all the time. Listen, brother, that might be a different state. They have different laws, but that still might affect me, so. No, no, no, no, no. These women do not need to vote any states whatsoever.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Okay, well, agreed, but the thing is, is that from a. From a constitutional legal perspective, the 19th Amendment is unconstitutional because what does it do? It's not votes for women. It is. You cannot deny a person the right to vote based on gender. That's what it is. It didn't say women get to vote. It Says, if it was men, I couldn't. Because you have a penis. I can't go and say, you can't go and vote because of that right. What it is, is it's you cannot abridge or you cannot limit a person's right to vote based on their, well, sex. They didn't call it gender back then, of course. But the thing is, is that that being a federal law is unconstitutional because the Constitution was meant to be the framework for the states. It's against states.

[Gary]

I understand what you're saying, but I always, you know, when I have these conversations, I always think back about how brilliant our forefathers were. In 1860, 1861, they gave slaves the right to vote. These racist white people gave slaves the right to vote. People they considered 3/5 of a person that gave them the right to vote. They did it 60 years before they gave their own white women the right to vote. So again, 1860s black men were given the right to vote by racist white men. They didn't give their own women the rights until 60 years later. Even those racist white men put people

[Cobra]

who they considered three fifths of a person above their own women.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Last point, last point.

[Gary]

Last, last, last point, last point.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Here is when women come at you and they say, well, we met, you know, women didn't have the right to vote for a long time. Like, no, actually no one had the right to vote right up until like about the mid-1800s, right? So the period of time, at least in the United States, or actually, I should say worldwide, I've got this graph. So if you look at, if you go back to like, say, I don't know, the 1400s or whatever, right? If you go back that far and then you come up to 1920, when women got the right to vote, there's a very, very short period of time where men could vote and women could not vote. So if you take that, and anytime some woman says, well, you know, we couldn't vote for a long time, like, not very, according to history, it wasn't all that long.

[Gary]

So anyways, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Roll. And when they couldn't vote, we didn't have a national debt, did we? There's no national debt before then has gone up.

[Rollo Tomassi]

But you also, you got to remember that's also going up the gold standard 100.

[Gary]

Hold on, hold on one second. No, no, no, no, no.

[Cobra]

We got.

[Gary]

I just want to bring with thing. I'm the godfather of numerologies, okay? A lot of people can, don't they don't know any other numerologists besides me. I think a lot of people would even agree to that. This is the guy who started the Red Pill movement. This is the guy. So me and him are both the fathers of certain movements. Since I started numerology and astrology and trying to make it make sense to people, I've noticed so many grifters start jumping on my bandwagon and start trying to do what I do. They won't be able to, but it kind of bothers me. Rolo, brother, talk to me. You foul. You founded the Red Pill movement.

[Cobra]

These grifters literally took it from you.

[Gary]

They literally took it from you. Obviously got Sartain to back you up now and everything. But how do you feel about these people who just jumped on your bandwagon and now try to fucking claim what you made fucking famous?

[Rollo Tomassi]

I think it depends on the person and their intent behind it, right? I've always said that the Red Pill has been open source. It's open source, okay? So what that means to me is that it's like open source code. If you can take that code and you can add something to it, add a feature to it, or build something new off of that source code, please, who's at it? Please go and do it.

[Gary]

Who's at it?

[Rollo Tomassi]

So, but, so, but that's. So that's open source. Direct plagiarism is saying, I wrote this source code. That's what this is. So there's got to be a distinction between the people who are saying I did this and the people who are saying this was here already and now I've built upon that. So there's people that I like. I like, for instance, like when I work with Michael Sartain. Michael Sartain isn't going to say, hey, I created the Red pill, right? Or he's not going to like, lift my material directly. There's other people who have done that. And the people will always say, well, Rolo, how come they're more successful than you are? Well, that's because they've learned how to game the system. And they. They gamed it very, very well. And they took it. And they've never really been about it. I've been doing what I do. I've been writing books. I've been in this space before. It was a space. I've been. I've been. I mark my point. In this area and what would then be called the manosphere from 2002 all the way up to 2026 right now. So I've been doing it that fucking long. And so when I hear people talk about, like, Andrew Tate or Pearl Davis or any of these other stuff, if you think that the manosphere or the red pill begins and ends with Andrew Tate like they do in the UK right now, you think it started a half an hour ago. You think it started after the MeToo movement? Man, I've got about another, like, 15, 20 years of material I can show you to just show you that you. This is just a trend, this is just a fad for you, and you're going to move on and pivot to something else sooner or later. So there's a people who are about it, and you just kind of have to separate the wheat from the chaff. That's really hard to do, especially with AI coming and everybody's pushing and pumping stuff out. You get somebody like, Clavicular who's got, what, 16, 10 re, you know, re tweeters, whatever.

[Gary]

They're replaying it over and over and over. That comes with eddie giving you 2 million a month for clipping so.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Well, why is he more successful than you? Because I don't have kick and that kind of money behind me pushing what I've been talking about for 26 years now. So really, that's what it's about. But, like, yeah, I mean, I said this on Dr. Phil even, you know, like, Dr. Phil wanted Andrew Tate on that show. When I. When I did the Dr. Phil show in 2022, I was the Andrew Tate understudy. They hit me up twice to see if they could get him because they knew that I knew Andrew, right? And I'm like, he's not going to do it, because, you know, he converted to Islam. He did this. He just. He just couldn't set foot in the United States at that time. But so I went on there, and the first thing they did was attack me for Andrew Tate's, you know, rhetoric. And I go and I said, stop. I said, stop. I am not an Andrew Tate apologist. I am not here to, you know, to represent him. He's. His work is a derivative of my stuff. He's basically taking my. Put his own spin on it. And now you're throwing it back here. And I'm like, if you want to talk about points, individual things, if you want to talk about concepts, if you want to talk about the praxeology of the red pill, I am here and I will. I will debate your ass all day about that. But if you want to come here and say, well, you guys think that women should be property That's, That's. That's like your opinion.

[Gary]

Okay, last. Last question before you go. Yeah, I consider myself red pill, but I'm married.

[Justin Admiral]

Sure.

[Gary]

I've been married for 23 years.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Well done.

[Gary]

I'm not doing that, you know, go around looking for horror. I'm very happy with my wife. And that's how it works. You're the grand. You're the grandfather. Godfather of the red pill. Is that grandfather yet?

[Cobra]

I'm not a grandfather yet. You will be at some.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Might be soon.

[Cobra]

You will be something.

[Gary]

Give me there too.

[Justin Admiral]

Too quick.

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'm not there too quick.

[Cobra]

You will be someday.

[Gary]

But my question is to you.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Don't let Nick Fuentes tell you I'm a grandpa. I'm not a grandfather.

[Gary]

Nick Fuentes is a homo. Whatever. When it comes. Listen, I'm not gonna have a man who says having a wife is gay, is gonna be the guy who represents this. But here's my question to you. Like I said, I'm married 23 years. I don't. Around. Don't do anything like that. I consider myself red pill. Is that the right way to live the red pill movement, according to you, and get married? Because I see a lot of red pill guys say, okay, don't get married.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So here's the thing. Is. Is what you're. The mistake that you're making is you're thinking that the red pill is a prescription. It's not. It's a praxeology. What it is is to think of the red pill as a database. It's information, okay? So whenever I get somebody gives me this question, they will say, do you think that it's red pill to be married? Do you think it's red pill to be single? Blah, blah, blah. Okay? Those are best practices, okay? So if you have. If you have this database which is ever growing and ever changing, you know, it's evolutionary psychology, evolutionary biology, anthropology, sociology, neurology, endocrinology, add all the ologies you can that have something to do with intersectional dynamics. That's the red pill. It is not a movement. It is not a religion. It is not a belief set. It is not a philosophy. It is not, you know, ideology, whatever you want to call it. Because the only reason they say that is because it's easier to fight because they don't like the information that's in there. But when you look at the pickup artists, when you look at the. We look at the trap, the tradcons do that. They'll use parts of the red pill. MGTOWs, MRAs, all, all. Any of the people who are like sort of a movement of some sorts, they're using information that is in the database of the red pill. And so the MGTOW say, you know what? The juice isn't worth the squeeze. We're not going to try anymore. It we're out, right? That's the best practice. The pickup artists go, you know what? We got all this great fucking information on how to get our dicks wet.

[Cobra]

All right?

[Rollo Tomassi]

That's their best practice. We're going to go and find wasted approach, cold approach, direct approach, social circle, game, whatever else. That's a best practice. Using what? The database of the red pill? Right, so you asked me this, is that the red pill way to do it? No, that's the, that's the Gary way to do it. Because you have all this information. You say, you know what? I got this information. I think this is how I want. It's a lifestyle choice as well. What it is. This is what I want to do. I've been. I will have been married 30 years on July 20th. So are you. Am I red pill or am I not red pill? Because I have. I've been married that long and I have a daughter and she's married too, right? Am I going against the red pill? No, I'm going against your best practices. I'm not going against the red pill.

[Gary]

You founded the movement. I would say the way you're. You live your life can be what the movement's based off. We can make that a movement can

[Rollo Tomassi]

be based off of red pill awareness, but the red pill itself is not a movement, okay? Trad cons will pull. They'll pick and pull the parts that they like out of the red pill and they'll ignore the rest. PUAs pick and pull MRA's, incels insults. I've known plenty of insults. And that's why they're incels, because they have the red pill. They go, oh my God, I'll never do it. You know, they're nihilistic and they're despondent because of what they learn in the red pill. Right? So what is their best practice? Sit at home, jerk off, play League of Legends and, you know, eat pizza and, I don't know, whatever, smoke a lot of weed.

[Moderator Sean]

What role is referring to is descriptors versus prescription.

[Gary]

No, no, I get it, I get it.

[Rollo Tomassi]

So, so what you're doing is red pill, according to you, okay? You're taking, you're taking that information and

[Gary]

then you're into me. I'M a multi millionaire. According to me, I'm the Michael Jordan. My space. Get a virgin and read the live the red pill wave wife the way I do it or the way Rolo does it. All right, brother. And by the way, that's about the most respectful I'll probably be to a guest today.

[Pedro]

Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode. If you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.

[Moderator Sean]

All right, thank you, gentlemen. Rambo, you're gonna kick us off with AI will destroy the economy. We're gonna continue from there.

[Gary]

Rambo, semester. Stallone, like the movie star. Okay, yeah. Cutting people, huh? You know, when you actually.

[Cobra]

The fifth.

[Gary]

When you have to. Yeah, exactly. Before we get started. You vaccinated pimp.

[Andrew Wilson]

I am.

[Gary]

So you fell for the government propaganda? No, I needed it to travel because I'm. Why didn't you fake your papers? That's a good point.

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Gary]

I mean, next point, I guess one for Gary. It's not that I'm concerned so much that they're going to take all these jobs away. It's the fact that like we have bigger issues where it's oil, declining birth rates and like just the fact that like these white don't have white babies anymore. Yeah.

[Andrew Wilson]

So you're saying like we're not going

[Gary]

to be able to eat anymore. So if they're not having kids anymore, if, no if families. The population is not growing, it's shrinking. So if at the same for white

[Cobra]

people and ain't shrinking for black people, ain't shrinking for Latinos, ain't shrinking for

[Gary]

Muslims because we keep letting them in. Well, I'm, I'm not. Well now you're, you know, shifting. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. There's like all these other aspects that are more detrimental than AI itself. Well, I mean, AI is going to destroy the whole economy. So like when it comes down to it, yes, what you're talking about is an issue. But if there's no economy, no one really gives a about the other. I mean, you know, you need an economy, bro.

[Cobra]

It's about, it's like George W. Bush

[Gary]

said, it's about the jobs, stupid. It's about the jobs. That's what they care about. The jobs and the economy and jobs go hand inand like this. Listen, brother, it looks like we agreeing on a lot. Okay, Right? I, I, I am, I, I think that the only immigrants should that should come in to America to work. Are Mexicans or like Cubans keep into this hemisphere? We don't because when they come in here, I'm not a Christian myself, but the Mexicans come in, they're mostly Christians. Yeah, we have their families.

[Cobra]

So.

[Gary]

So yeah, exactly. So you're not going to like destroy the culture of America if you let Mexicans and Cubans because they're mainly Christian. But you start letting these other third worlders in here now you start having issues because they won't assimilate to this culture. And the biggest issue when it comes to birth rates and again is the Muslims. I'm going to make this abundantly clear with the Muslims. I agree with a lot with Islam. Sharia law is something I would implement. No one should be drinking alcohol, no one should be eating pork. Women need to cover the up. But they come in here and they're going to enforce their will and they're going to make you pay a jiza tax. They're going to start coming in here making you pray to their God. I'm sorry, only people get on their knees are people praying. And homosexuals. I ain't doing neither. It's just not happening. Okay, so let me make this clear to you. Islam is a clear and present danger because of their birth rates. That's why Lebanon in 19, what was it? 1949, 1948 was about 70 Christian. And then when the Jews went into Palestine and turned into Israel, all those Muslim refugees flooded into Lebanon. And now because those good Christians, those turn the other cheat Christians let them in. Now Lebanon is a in civil war, constantly getting bombed, constantly because they let the Muslims in and the Muslims don't assimilate. So again, I have no issue with the Islamic culture. I do have an issue with them coming in, not assimilating and then basically trying to turn this into another third world.

[Shaman Omar]

Right.

[Gary]

So if we keep everyone out, wouldn't you say that we need more productivity to keep going forward and keep the economy going? The one, you know, good thing about AI, and I'll give it to him, is when these robots come, I'm not talking about like agents on, you know, but when these robots come, we're not gonna need these illegals anymore.

[Cobra]

So that's the one good thing about

[Gary]

AI, it's gonna stop this immigration crisis that's happening all over the world. It's not just here in America. The Russians are bitching about the U. Pakistanis, the Syrians are bitching about the people from Lebanon. And you know, everyone in the world is bitching about immigration. This is nothing new. This is not just an American problem. The difference is we are the richest country in human history. We don't need them here. We have our own poor people to take care of now. You know, this guy over here didn't give a about poor people. I kind of still do. Maybe, maybe that's a flaw.

[Cobra]

You know, we'll find out. But, you know, I don't want people

[Gary]

eating out of trash cans unless they're my enemies. There's quite a few of those. Okay, I'm getting off subject, Getting off subject, but we can dictate to the world what we want. And it's because of weak leadership in this country that we actually have an immigration country. First of all, why are we allowing Muslim women to come in here and have four, five, six babies? Why are we allowing this? They're gonna change the demographics of this country. And again, I'm no fan of Israel either. I'm no fan of Israel either. Why are we giving Israel 6, $7 billion?

[Cobra]

Why? For what reason?

[Gary]

We shouldn't cut it all off.

[Cobra]

Yeah, all the foreign aid.

[Gary]

Israel doesn't want to listen to President Bush.

[Cobra]

Netanyahu got some big balls. He wants to bomb the whole world. Do it yourself. Do it yourself, Rambo.

[Moderator Sean]

Let's tie this up in a pretty bow in two minutes. Let's see what you got.

[Gary]

Well, another thing too is I don't really think AI is going to grow conscious. I think it's, it's going to self implode the way it's going right now, because all the AI slop that's coming out, it gets a lot of errors wrong. Right now we're living in a social media world where almost all content is AI generated or basically assisted by AI. So there's a lot of errors that are going out into the, into the Internet and it basically feeds itself. So now it's like in a, in a loop where it starts to hallucinate. And I don't think AI hallucinates.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Really? Yeah, it gets a lot of answers wrong. Well, I know that by, you know, the people doing numerology on it, I know that it gets it wrong. Listen, I, I don't disagree with what you're saying. I didn't know AI hallucinates. That's, that's something new. That's what they call it when, when it starts getting. When it tells you, oh, like you should probably eat a rock in a sandwich. It would taste really good. Ate a rock?

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Oh, I thought rocks Were just for.

[Moderator Sean]

Oh, my God.

[Cobra]

Whoa, what make Stones great again. What the we talking about here, man? Listen, listen. I said it'll give you stupid answers like that. I said that I don't want the Muslims here, but hell, I respect their goddamn religion.

[Gary]

The Middle east, they know how to keep their women in line. You don't have no goddamn feminism over there. As a matter of fact, you know, I remember in 2015 when the Crown prince of Saudi Arabia, someone I have a great deal respect for, because Saudi Arabia is the real leader in the Middle East. Not Israel, it's Saudi Arabia. But when he gave women the right to, you know, drive in 2015, that was like, oh, it's starting over there too. We got bigger issues. I'm saying, what are you talking about?

[Cobra]

We got bigger issues, man. How many times have you had a woman hit you?

[Gary]

They don't hit me, bro. Bro, women. See how many accidents are caused by women compared to men? Oh, you mean AI and that do an AI that affects all of us.

[Moderator Sean]

Just make a claim and it'll say,

[Gary]

yeah, okay, you know. You know, I. You know what? I have a problem with Uber and Lyft for some reason. If you're a woman, you can request just a woman to drive you, but if you're a man, you can't request just a man to drive you. Listen, we got issues because women, women are the ones who cause the majority of the accidents. I don't feel safe with a female driver. I. I'm not asking Uber. I'm demanding you give me the option to have a male driver. You know how many times I've been driving an Uber and I had a female and I canceled it? Like, what are we doing here?

[Moderator Sean]

Wrap it up in a pretty 60 second bow.

[Gary]

All right, well, I don't know. I just think that we should keep AI going, but I don't think it's going to be as detrimental as people say. Like, for you, the layoffs, that's happening. What do you do? I'm a musician. All right, so at what point will AI start making better music than you? We don't even make good money on music. We make someone performances, someone does. We made more money in doing performances. Okay, Going on tour, that's where you make real money. All those plays on Spotify, they're all fake anyways. They're all fake? Yeah. Spotify don't pay real money.

[Justin Admiral]

Barely.

[Gary]

So go in that camera. You're telling me Spotify don't make any money for you?

[Andrew Wilson]

Not enough.

[Gary]

Wow, man. So Spotify is a scam, huh? It's all right. It's all right.

[Cobra]

You don't want to go there. I use YouTube music. You know what? I got big balls because I could say Elon Musk, he can suspend my goddamn account. I don't care. I still got IG. I still got YouTube. I still got Tick Tock and your ass can't touch me there.

[Gary]

Yeah, Elon Musk, okay? You know, he suspended me 28 times. The last suspension I got three days ago.

[Leo]

He.

[Gary]

He sent me the thing for the reason I got suspended, Sean. They suspended me for impersonating myself.

[Cobra]

And you know what the funny thing is? He suspended to be the same day

[Gary]

he became a trillionaire.

[Cobra]

Yo, man, you short space acts make Elon Musk a billionaire again.

[Moderator Sean]

Oh, my God. All right, Rainbow, shake hands with Gary. That was well done.

[Gary]

Wrap it up, brother.

[Pedro]

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[Andrew Wilson]

Hey, how's it going?

[Gary]

How you doing, Andrew? You vaccinated?

[Andrew Wilson]

No, sir.

[Gary]

Okay, so you trusted God and not the vaccine?

[Rollo Tomassi]

Yes.

[Gary]

Okay, outstanding. Okay, what's on your mind?

[Andrew Wilson]

So I want to talk first about this AI prompt.

[Gary]

Talk.

[Andrew Wilson]

To me, it does seem like they over evaluated their companies so that they could go public and get trillion dollar value valuations. That's what the CEOs are supposed to do. But we see already with jobs like coders, we could fact check how many were fired, but they're starting to hire them back by the thousands. So AI is not doing the jobs as efficiently as the humans were.

[Gary]

Not yet.

[Andrew Wilson]

Not yet. Right. So my anecdotal experience with AI is that it sucks. Like it can't even read an image properly and edit it. I'll be like, remove the line. It can't even remove the line.

[Gary]

What kind of work do you do?

[Andrew Wilson]

Right now I'm doing content.

[Gary]

Okay, so me and you're in the same game then?

[Andrew Wilson]

Yes.

[Gary]

As I said before, I got in the game in 2023. I was spending 20,000 on Clippers. Got all the way up to 40, 50,000 last year. Now it's down less than 10k and I'm putting out three times as much content. Why? Because now AI has got to the point where it's if it's not better, it's right at par. And why would I pay someone 5,000, 6,000 when Claude can do it for $200 plus a couple hundred extra for someone to get it done? So again, what I see is this AI is constantly getting better. At the beginning of the year, none of my content was AIs. It was trash. But in the past couple months, it's caught up to the point where I can let go of my clippers. I feel confident enough to let go of my clippers. And I've been in this game for a while. Three years is a long time. And not to fall off, that is a long time. I got about 13, 14 billion views. Those aren't Andrew Tate numbers, but they're up there. I'm the. I've been on your show more than anyone else, right, Sean? Again, we're talking about the 13, 14 time here. And I'm telling you, this is my bread and butter. AI has caught up to my clippers now. Yeah, here's here. Something you said was really, really profound, though. You said that the S P 500, I'm assuming is just overblown.

[Andrew Wilson]

It's a CEO's job.

[Gary]

It's a CEO's job. Okay, so let's talk about next year and what I think is going to happen. Because I do think there is a big, big problem with 50 of the S P 500 being AI stocks. It's oversaturated. That's a fat cow. So what, what's going on here is you have, you know, Apple, all the AI companies, Anthropic OpenAI, they're just generating massive amounts of potential profit, but it's not there yet. Here's the problem. China can use that as Achilles heel and destroy our economy. Why? The Chinese models are free. So when people start losing their jobs and they have to decide between a 200 hour Claude or a free Chinese model, and if you don't have money, you're going to take the Chinese model. And what that's going to do is that's going to put pressure on all the American AI companies that aren't going to be making money. And that's going to be the first crack in the S P500. The Chinese know what they're doing. They're going to flood the American market with cheap AIs to basically try to bankrupt the American capitalist model and President Trump and to members of Congress. You have to ban the Chinese AI models completely from the American economy. You have to do it completely from Western. The Europeans have To do it, the Australians have to do it. Everyone has to do it. Because if you don't, they're going to crack your fucking economies, your fucking inflated AI economies with their cheap Chinese models. And that's exactly what they're planning on doing.

[Andrew Wilson]

But it's not going to work efficiently is my point. So it may work for a little while. You bring up Claude a few times. I'm guessing you use Claude. I don't know if you're familiar. The CEO of Claude just admitted I had it on my show and I have it clipped.

[Gary]

I can show you after I. I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Andrew Wilson]

The bomb in Iran.

[Cobra]

That.

[Andrew Wilson]

That bomb in Iran. Those targets were sourced by Claude and they bombed that girl school. So how many. It's not working. That's what I'm saying. From my own.

[Gary]

It's not working as well as it should, but it's working a lot better than it did three months ago and six months ago. Because AI is going like this.

[Cobra]

It's. There's not going to be a day

[Gary]

when AI gets worse. Those days are over. It's just going to get better and better, and at some point, it's going to get to the point where it's going to replace humans. I mean, I. I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk, but he was telling the truth. In three years, four years, five years, we're gonna go to a doctor performing a surgery. What do you want to go to a. To a human for? His hand shakes? All this other, who knows, he's doing crack cocaine on the weekends. A computer, precise certain professions.

[Andrew Wilson]

Sure, it's going to be beneficial to use AI in a computer, but it's not going to take over and destroy our whole economy. I think that this was just the AI companies pumping this up. And it seems like.

[Gary]

I don't think they would be pumping it up. That's people like me pumping this up. AI economies would. The AI companies don't actually want you thinking like this because it's negative to their performance outlook, but it's not negative

[Andrew Wilson]

to their investors, which is what they care about. They want to show that they're going to be the only thing that matters to make money. It seems like you're buying that narrative hook line.

[Gary]

I'm. I'm looking at it.

[Andrew Wilson]

About the hallucination. Hallucinations that the other guy mentioned, that's a real thing. AI hallucination is a term.

[Gary]

It'll be fixed.

[Andrew Wilson]

They do that. It'll be fixed, and it's Just a pro. What you should be doing. I'll ask you this. Do you use Claude to track the statistical accuracy of your predictions?

[Gary]

Yes, I do.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay. Do you know what the number is that you're predicting at?

[Gary]

If it's based off NBA Finals? Even though I took a loss in the last one, total, it's 22 and five in the NBA Finals. I won the season last six Super Bowls in a row. One of the major predictions I did on this show, the first time I was on it was I told people to invest in a coin called Zcash. And Zcash at that point was 2000. Was 2003. 2023, it was like 22 to 28. It went all the way up to 750. So based off my numerology predictions, if people would have listened to me on Sean's show for the past three years, they would have made a lot of money on zcash.

[Andrew Wilson]

Sure. But I'm sure you make thousands of predictions a year.

[Gary]

Some thousands a year. That's about three a day.

[Andrew Wilson]

In prepping for this very debate, I watched your debates with Andrew Wilson, okay? You made a prediction about Elon, and this was about 14 months ago, that he would have the worst year of his life.

[Cobra]

He didn't.

[Gary]

You could not possibly have been more. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Andrew Wilson]

Just became the world's first. Let me finish my question. This is about 14 months ago. You even stressed in your final statement of that debate, in your closing, how important it was to look at these cultural leaders, these public figures, as proof of numerous 100. So you say the guy's gonna openly have the worst year of his life. He then becomes the first trillionaire.

[Gary]

That was. That was 2025. We're in 2026. When he became a trillionaire. I made the predictions in 2025.

[Cobra]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Gary]

Let me finish. In the very beginning of 2025, Tesla got annihilated in the stock market, and President Trump threw him out the administration at that point. That was a very correct prediction. So he did have a lot more turbulence in his enemy year in 2025. No, no, it was the prediction, not the prediction.

[Andrew Wilson]

The prediction was worst year of his life.

[Cobra]

Did he have a bad year? Did he have a bad year when Donald Trump threw him out the administration? When Donald Trump threw him out the administration. And I believe I made that prediction on this show and I said Donald Trump would throw Musk out the administration, and it happened.

[Andrew Wilson]

So you're 50.

[Cobra]

50. How is that 50?

[Rollo Tomassi]

50.

[Andrew Wilson]

But someone who makes educated guesses could be more than 50. 50. How is numerology so.

[Gary]

So let's talk about sports bets are

[Andrew Wilson]

way better than 50. 50. So you're not even.

[Gary]

I mean, I made. I've made millions of dollars sports betting. Where Your receipts.

[Andrew Wilson]

Yeah, but even if that's true, if what you're saying works, you should be able to.

[Cobra]

So I have to be 100% for numerology at work. That's what you're telling me. Everyone else can be 50, 60. I have to be 100.

[Andrew Wilson]

Beating them or what's.

[Cobra]

I'm beating everybody. I'm beating everybody.

[Andrew Wilson]

Your predictions are coming in at 50.

[Cobra]

I've won the last six Super Bowls this decade. I'm 22. I'm 20.

[Moderator Sean]

I'm talking about one at a time because we're starting to roll.

[Gary]

Let's talk about the biggest sporting events in this. This decade.

[Moderator Sean]

Go ahead.

[Gary]

Or a century, whatever you want to call it. I'm 22 and 5 in the NBA Finals. I'm 6. 0 in the past six Super Bowls. I'm winning hockey, the Stanley cup at a 75% rate. I'm not perfect. I'm just better than everybody else, period.

[Andrew Wilson]

Sports betting. You have a 50, 50 chance of winning anyway.

[Cobra]

Enough. If I'm doing it 75% of the time.

[Andrew Wilson]

Prediction. Anybody can make lots of predictions and point to the ones you got, right?

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm pointing to the ones that you. The massive ones. This isn't even a small one. When I heard that prediction that you made with Elon, I said, holy shit.

[Gary]

I did say Trump would win. I did say Trump would win. I did say the election would be stolen from Trump in 2020. I did say he would be Clinton in 2016. Those are all correct predictions.

[Andrew Wilson]

What I'm saying is that with Claude and technologies like this, we should be able to put all your predictions into AI and see, statistically, you should be able to make a Numerology Fidelity account that grows at 10% or 12%. I'm not saying it has to be 100%, but you should know the percentage of which, if I invest in you,

[Gary]

you say, is Rob still here? It's Rob still here. No, see, you say the elites use this.

[Andrew Wilson]

They would want to know. 20 grand. What is the percentage?

[Cobra]

Hold on.

[Andrew Wilson]

What my money grows based on.

[Gary]

Let's. Let's talk about the elite actually using this.

[Andrew Wilson]

Sure.

[Gary]

Let's talk about a guy I despise, Elon Musk. Okay.

[Justin Admiral]

Well, of course.

[Gary]

How long. How long have I been saying 28 is the number of wealth, I'm assuming a long time.

[Cobra]

You said you watched my videos.

[Andrew Wilson]

I watched two of your videos to practice. I watched two of your debates to preference.

[Gary]

God damn. Got 200, only two I watched put

[Andrew Wilson]

in more work, so that's all I needed.

[Gary]

Have you, have you guys watched my content for a while? Anyone? Okay, come over here for a sec. How long have I been saying 28 is the number of wealth?

[Shaman Omar]

Forever.

[Gary]

Forever.

[Cobra]

So.

[Gary]

So I've been saying that for about two decades now, right?

[Pedro]

Correct.

[Gary]

Okay. I'm not disputing. What are the chances that I say 28 number of wealth? I make this claim when Bill Gates is the richest man in the world born on the 28th. And now we have the first trillionaire on the planet, and he's born on the 28th.

[Cobra]

Not only that, Elon Musk had his

[Gary]

first child born in the had his last child born on 28th last year. And I've also made the statement that if you have kids born on the 28th, it increases your wealth. How do I know this? Because Vladimir Putin had his first child born on the 28th. I also said money comes to you when you do things on the 28th. When did Elon sell X to his AI company?

[Andrew Wilson]

On the 28th.

[Gary]

Yes, he did, on 28th. So now what we have here. Hold on. Now what we have here is the richest man on paper in the world who's doing things based over under 28 energy. He's born on the 28th, and he also became the world's richest man, who's a trillionaire, the first one, and he's born on the 28th.

[Cobra]

I arrest my case.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, no, there's no case to rest because again, if you make a ton of different claims, some about the year, he's gonna have the worst year ever, some about the 28, some about.

[Cobra]

So if I'm. If I'm right about him, 90 of the time. That's garbage.

[Andrew Wilson]

You're not.

[Cobra]

I am.

[Andrew Wilson]

You're not. You were wrong.

[Cobra]

You made one thing I said I

[Andrew Wilson]

was wrong about one, it was, everything

[Cobra]

else I did was big, have the worst year ever. He did had a bad year. He did have a bad year.

[Gary]

I said he'll be a trillionaire in 2025.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, you said he was gonna have

[Cobra]

the worst year and he did have

[Gary]

a bad year in 2025.

[Andrew Wilson]

In that year, he was becoming the

[Cobra]

world's first trillion in 2026. It's not his enemy year anymore. It's not his enemy year anymore.

[Andrew Wilson]

No what you're saying makes no sense.

[Cobra]

Space X.

[Gary]

No, SpaceX was found in 2002 year

[Cobra]

the horse he opened. He opens the IPO for SpaceX in

[Gary]

2026, the year of the horse.

[Cobra]

He's obviously following this information.

[Gary]

Maybe this goes above your head. Maybe you don't want to look into it too much. That's fine, because you're a Christian and

[Cobra]

this goes against your Christian beliefs. Right? Let's keep it real. This is against your Christian beliefs, and that's what.

[Andrew Wilson]

It's just not real. You should be able to show the rate at which you can grow funds. And if that's the case, then we should be able to repeat it over and over with some statistic variability. There should be some.

[Gary]

I. I'm worth millions. What are you worth?

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm saying, what are you working on investing?

[Cobra]

What are you worth? Sir, it's not. I don't practice numerology, obviously, because you're poor.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm not poor.

[Cobra]

How much.

[Gary]

How much do you make a year?

[Andrew Wilson]

That's a really.

[Gary]

How much money you make a year?

[Moderator Sean]

I'm not gonna enforce it if you don't want to say.

[Gary]

No, he's talking all this. Let's go, dude.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm basically retired, to be honest.

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Gary]

Are you a millionaire?

[Cobra]

Are you at least a millionaire?

[Gary]

Are you at least a millionaire, dude?

[Andrew Wilson]

If you're counting property, then yes.

[Gary]

Okay, so you've made that. And you made that money doing what?

[Andrew Wilson]

Sales.

[Moderator Sean]

Sales.

[Gary]

Sales. Okay. What is your birthday? 1188-6118-1981-1886. So we have a seven life path. Are you a loner at heart?

[Andrew Wilson]

Yes.

[Gary]

Okay. Do you consider yourself an intellectual?

[Andrew Wilson]

Obviously, you talk to me for a few minutes here, you know that I don't.

[Cobra]

I. I mean, I don't think you

[Gary]

are, but I'm asking if you consider your intellectual.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Cobra]

Okay. Do you.

[Gary]

Do you have a strong, strong dislike for stupid people?

[Andrew Wilson]

Again, these are vague.

[Gary]

Yes or no? Yes or no.

[Andrew Wilson]

But what are you. What is your point?

[Cobra]

Because.

[Gary]

Because that's what seven life paths are.

[Andrew Wilson]

But they keep.

[Cobra]

They keep.

[Gary]

They keep to themselves. They keep to themselves. All of them? Yeah, a whole bunch of them keep themselves.

[Andrew Wilson]

The ones that don't.

[Gary]

Well, if you have something like a 80 to keep themselves, what is that percentage? That's what I'm about 80. Well, I mean, 80 also.

[Cobra]

80.

[Gary]

85.

[Andrew Wilson]

Are you just making it up?

[Gary]

No, that's what. That's what I've seen about. Okay, so.

[Andrew Wilson]

So say, let's put this all in okay, one year. Let's look at all your projections.

[Cobra]

Let's, let's all of them and let's

[Gary]

wrap this up in two minutes.

[Andrew Wilson]

We can come back here in one year.

[Gary]

How about that? You want, you want, you want to put money on it? Because that's the only way I operate.

[Andrew Wilson]

What percentage are we going to say that you're going to be correct at?

[Gary]

I'm always at 70%.

[Andrew Wilson]

We could talk about a bet after this money. Willing to make a bet if we have the terms correct.

[Gary]

Okay. Bring the money out or I want to talk. Okay, so here's, here's, here's what it comes down to. This is the year of the horse. The horse's enemy is the rat.

[Moderator Sean]

That.

[Gary]

So people who are born in 1996, 1984, 1972, most of them will have off years. There's one guy who's having a good enemy year. His name is Jalen Brunson. He just won a title with the New York Knicks. But for every.

[Cobra]

Hold on before you shake your goddamn head.

[Gary]

For every Jalen Brunson, there's an Israel that was founded 1948 that's being threatened by the United States of America that's being bombed the out of him. And I said on this show last

[Cobra]

year that Israel would have the most

[Gary]

difficult year in its existence this goddamn century. And that's exactly what's happening.

[Andrew Wilson]

It's unquantifiable. What is.

[Cobra]

What are you talking about?

[Andrew Wilson]

The most difficult.

[Cobra]

How do you quantify an American president? How do you prove an American president just threatened to bomb Israel? That never happened before. Are you out your mind?

[Andrew Wilson]

No, I'm not making a claim about Israel. I'm saying that.

[Cobra]

No, it doesn't fit your narrative. It doesn't fit your narrative.

[Moderator Sean]

Whether or not here's what I think Andrew's asking is how. How are you putting a metric on it? Right. When do you get to determine whether you said the claim Israel will have the worst year? Right.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Moderator Sean]

What determines that and are there.

[Cobra]

You look at the people who are

[Gary]

born in that year and we start looking at how they're going through life right now. For every Jalen Brunson, there is another Donovan Mitchell who didn't do anything this year. For every Jalen Brunson, there's a Jalen Brown who's born in a Rhett year who didn't do anything. For every Jalen Brunson, there's a guy like Brandon Clark who's born in 1996, played for the Memphis Grizzlies, and he died this year. There's another guy named Trey Keith. He died a couple days ago. He's a Grammy Award winner. He's born 1996. A majority of people born in enemy years will suffer this year. And this guy wants to say, oh, there's one example.

[Cobra]

And it invalidates everything because to me, to these Christians, I have to be perfect.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm saying, everybody suffers every year. And you make predictions that you can just use.

[Cobra]

I don't. I'm having a great year. I'm having a great year.

[Andrew Wilson]

You tried to spin it and say, well, in the beginning of the year, he kind of had this thing that didn't go well. So I was right. And that's an example of what I'm saying, that you make these predictions that

[Cobra]

he got thrown out of the Trump administration. You don't think that's a big deal? You don't think that's a big deal?

[Andrew Wilson]

Worst year ever.

[Cobra]

You don't think that's a big deal? He spent $80 million investing on Trump and then he threw his ass out. You would think that's a bad big deal.

[Andrew Wilson]

You're moving the goal post. Literally, the prediction was worst year ever. You tried to go back to the beginning of the year, spin something that wasn't that great for him, and say that that prediction was correct.

[Cobra]

I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Moderator Sean]

After you say your thing, I'm gonna

[Andrew Wilson]

let Andrew like it because he knows I'm running. They're vain.

[Cobra]

And I'll tell you what.

[Justin Admiral]

This.

[Gary]

This is. Hold on just a second. The only thing that talks. This right here. That's the only thing that talks.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay?

[Cobra]

So this is what we're gonna do. If you really believe what you believe.

[Gary]

Oh, my man over there. Sean was set up in a heartbeat.

[Cobra]

Put a hundred thousand on the line.

[Gary]

I'll. He'll take 20 random people. I'll be blindfolded. I will read them, and they will

[Cobra]

tell me if I was accurate or not. And the winner gets. Oh, so if someone. What I'm saying.

[Andrew Wilson]

What I'm saying is put all your predictions.

[Cobra]

Where's your money? Put your money on it. Put your money on it.

[Andrew Wilson]

Prediction you make.

[Cobra]

Put your money on to Claude and

[Andrew Wilson]

let's see the percentage of all of them. That's how statistics work.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Okay.

[Moderator Sean]

All right.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's how statistics work.

[Cobra]

You know any billionaires?

[Gary]

You know any billionaires?

[Cobra]

You know any billionaires? I do billionaires. The billionaires consult with me. Who the hell are you?

[Moderator Sean]

Andrew, let's go ahead and put a pit in this one. I want to see you guys rumble. Maybe on another round.

[Gary]

Yeah, put some money on it. Okay.

[Moderator Sean]

All of your predictions, I apologize.

[Cobra]

For instance, you say numerology doesn't work,

[Moderator Sean]

but I'm going to.

[Cobra]

The best way to prove that somebody is to read people like a book

[Moderator Sean]

here for a job, for a reason. So thank you. Let's put a pin in this one, gentlemen. And let's go ahead and switch out. Let's get Pedro up here to continue on the. On the numerology topic. And the two of you, I think need to have a bigger conversation with Sean for. For further.

[Gary]

Let me make this clear to the camera. If anyone thinks this is fraudulent, if anyone thinks this is offer stands to anybody, any grifter who thinks they're better at me in numerology, any Christian Muslim who thinks this is nonsense, put your money where your mouth is. Sean will set this up in a heartbeat. I will be blindfolded. I'll have a couple bodyguards. Come here, over here. Come over here for a second. I'm gonna have a.

[Cobra]

Because if I'm gonna be blindfolded, I'll trust any. Okay, so I'm gonna have this guy right here standing behind me just in case you try to impress me. He'll be right behind me trying to take it.

[Gary]

Get down a little bit.

[Cobra]

There you go. He's a big. He'll you up.

[Gary]

I appreciate it, man.

[Cobra]

I told you I'd get you a cameo.

[Gary]

So here's what's going to happen. Put your money where your mouth is. I will willing to be blindfolded and I will read 20 people like a book. If they say I'm right, you pay me. If they say I'm wrong, I pay you. As a matter of fact, you guys can put up a hundred thousand, I'll put up 200,000. Lesson. Let's make it happen. Trump change, chump change.

[Cobra]

See, no one will accept that. They're talking about statistical analysis, this and that. Put your money where your mouth is or shut the up.

[Pedro]

Thanks for watching all the way to the end. Guys, please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.

[Gary]

All right, brother, what's your name?

[Justin Admiral]

Justin, Admiral.

[Gary]

Justin. Are you vaccinated, sir?

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, I'm sure I got vaccinated when I was a child by something.

[Gary]

Did you get vaccinated by COVID 19?

[Justin Admiral]

Hell, nah, bro.

[Gary]

Okay, so see, I asked people that because I want to know where you're at. Because if you got fooled by the biggest psyop in the world history, then you're a complete dumbass. And I don't know. I know how to talk to you,

[Cobra]

but now I got some respect.

[Gary]

We'll see where that leads to.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, it also helps. My nose been smashed in so many times I can't breathe, so I wouldn't be able to catch it anyway. Or something.

[Gary]

Someone's been smashing your nose?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, man, I said I talk a lot of. Get hit in the face. You know what happens, you know, learn

[Cobra]

to fight back, bro.

[Justin Admiral]

I did in man wrestling for like 10, 15 years. I was a D1 wrestler.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Justin Admiral]

But anyway, that's not why we're here.

[Cobra]

Talk to me.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, so, you know, I've been listening to what you're saying, and you're kind of doing this double speak, especially when you talk about the 19th Amendment. And then when you talk about the AI, right on one side, you're talking about feminism and weakness and all this stuff is bad. But what you're really referring to here with the AI is you're afraid of Pandora's box being open. It's gonna run America. AI here, fam, you're over here preaching weakness. You're saying, oh, I'm Lorda Lord, I'm terrified of the AI. It's gonna come to ruin America. Hallelujah. I can't tell you. But then what's going to really happen is going to enable us to do more things. I own a ranch. I'm using AI all the time. It's amazing. Like, why? Like, it's enabled me to compete with ranches that have tons.

[Gary]

Okay, so you're running a ranch, right?

[Cobra]

What.

[Gary]

What is AI doing for you right now?

[Justin Admiral]

Right? Right now I'm looking at investing in getting some these. They have. They've tractors, basically. They'll go out there and they can kill all the bugs, which is really good. Consider we have what, Screw Fly going down right now. Screw worm. And so, yeah, we can do that. I can use it.

[Gary]

How did you used to take care of that?

[Justin Admiral]

We'd go out there and we do it by the sweat and brow of our hands.

[Gary]

So you. So you would have to pay people to do that before, right?

[Justin Admiral]

Well, I mean, yeah, so.

[Gary]

So now you're doing. So now you're telling me AI has taken someone's job away just like, gotcha, gotcha.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, yeah, Just like, just like whalers. I'm Not a bitch. I move into different industries whenever stuff goes bad. Like, I'm sorry that you're basically. I don't know if your stuff here with the numerology is real or if it's apophenia, but that you've been successful. Right. And I think you're afraid because you see yourself as Michael Jordan.

[Gary]

I use AI.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, well. But AI is going to come in and replace you. Why would I.

[Gary]

Here's the. Here's the point.

[Moderator Sean]

I want to do the 19.

[Gary]

No, no, no. We can go there. He wants to go there. That's fine. That's fine. So when it comes to AI, let me. I just can tell you about my business.

[Justin Admiral]

Sure.

[Gary]

Okay. What they call influencer. And when I got in the game in 2023, I used to spend about that year about 10,000amonth on clipping. Then I went up to about 20,000amonth in 2024. Then it went to about 40,000amonth. And this year we finally had a change. And the change is, I don't need those clippers anymore. Why? Because Now I have AI doing what they used to do for 40,000 for 200amonth on Claude. So what. What is happening is all those people who had those jobs who were actually taking care of their bills, all that money is gone now. It's gone. And that's going to happen to the taxicab industry. That's going to happen to the pilots, the doctors. That's going to happen to everyone. So what we're going to have is an economy where people don't have jobs. What that's going to lead to is a basic income, which is socialism. So AI is going to lead to communism and socialism. And that's why this piece of musk is one of the most evil son of a bitches on the planet.

[Cobra]

He might be an accolade for the fucking Antichrist himself.

[Gary]

Let me finish, okay? Let me just say this. I'm taking advantage of AI because I can't stop it. No matter how much I in that camera, no matter what I say to you guys, I can't stop it. So I'm gonna ride the wave and I'm gonna get richer doing it. But I don't think people understand how this is going to work right now. Maybe a million people are using Claude. When we get to the point where 30, 40, 50 million people using Claude, then no one's gonna have an actual job anymore. And that's gonna destroy the economy for the bottom class. The rich people are always going to have Their money. But the bottom class is going to be very different. They're not going to have that middle class anymore. It's all gone. So what that's going to lead to is revolution. Whenever you have a big, big rich class, no middle class and a huge poor class, that leads to revolution, the French Revolution, whole bunch of other things. But see, it's going to be different this time, guys.

[Cobra]

See, the, the elites, they know what's

[Gary]

going on had something to do with the vaccine too. They know what's going on and what they're going to have. They're going to have AI Terminators. And when and when these poor people start rebelling, it's not going to be standing armies trying to suppress the people. It's going to be AI robots with no conscience that will gun these people down like pigs. That's what's going to happen next 15, 20 years.

[Cobra]

So unless you see a way to stop that, let's hear it.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, I mean, I could only get so hard and everything you just described sounds great. Like, I mean, like, I'm like really excited for Lord Skynet to drone strike, illegals coming across the border.

[Cobra]

Like, I can't say anything about it.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, I just did. I'm saying, like, I can't wait. I own a bunch of military industrial complex stocks. The AI for example, is going to save capitalism. It's going to save capitalism because if we don't use it, China's going to.

[Gary]

I don't agree. I agree with that.

[Leo]

Sure.

[Justin Admiral]

But we're going to have the AI. We're going to have the best AI. We're seeing Ukraine coming up with like, I don't know, two by fours and like batteries and whooping Russia's ass because they adopted AI.

[Gary]

They're losing the world.

[Justin Admiral]

They just gained 237 miles.

[Gary]

Russia is losing. I mean, I don't need to work.

[Justin Admiral]

Well, I. Listen, Russia is wrong because, listen, right now they've gotten.

[Gary]

What part of Russia is occupied right now?

[Justin Admiral]

Well, none.

[Cobra]

But exactly what part of Ukraine is occupied right now?

[Justin Admiral]

Hold on.

[Cobra]

About a 25% of the country.

[Justin Admiral]

Hold on. Let's talk about. Just speak.

[Cobra]

Who's winning?

[Justin Admiral]

One second, Papa. Listen, you're sitting here saying this about Ukraine losing, right? They've regained 237 miles in the last year. And if you look at history, we

[Gary]

could say, how many have they lost?

[Justin Admiral]

Hold on. Well, how many miles did Russia lose when Germany invaded? And then who won that war? I mean, that's just stupid as fuck. I mean, maybe know your History. A lot of times people overspend and they lose. That's what Russia's done now. And Ukraine's done it amazingly with.

[Gary]

Ukraine's done amazingly with our equipment.

[Justin Admiral]

Right, well, our old shit and the new AIs they've developed and the drones and so when we're sitting here saying these things, you're basically a whaler. You're sitting here seeing that your industry is going to disappear.

[Gary]

No, my industry's done better.

[Justin Admiral]

How? How is it going to go better? When.

[Gary]

I'll tell you what. Because now I can go on cloud and I can give people, thousands of people readings in one hour. Where before. I. I couldn't do that before.

[Cobra]

Yeah. So, okay, so it's gonna help me. But what am I doing? Those used to be people who had jobs and they got cut. So now I'm getting richer and the poor are getting poor. This is what AI is doing.

[Justin Admiral]

That's fake news. Listen, the Industrial Revolution made more jobs for more people. This is going to enable more manufacturing, more agriculture. We're going to have more people in supplementary industries than ever before. This happened after every giant technological leap in history. Every single one you're just fighting against.

[Gary]

Not this time.

[Justin Admiral]

Oh, not this time.

[Gary]

Not this time.

[Justin Admiral]

So you're sitting here saying you recognize patterns and then sometimes you're like, oh, there's. Oh, Lord, this time that one pattern is going to be off. Doesn't make any sense, brother.

[Cobra]

Like, I'm, I'm, I'm telling you, people

[Gary]

are losing their jobs.

[Cobra]

AI, the AI companies themselves are firing people right now. Dell is losing, getting rid of people, Apple's getting rid of people. These are people who used to actually work and now they don't have jobs because AI, and you're over here, your cowboy hat saying, oh, everything's going to be great. Get the hell out of.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, honestly, I'm happy these people are losing their jobs because these people are liberal cucks that are sitting in these jobs, in these jobs. It's regularly known.

[Gary]

So you don't want liberals to have jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

I don't care who's got jobs.

[Cobra]

All I'm saying, you don't want. You just said you don't want liberals and cucks to have jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

I didn't say that at all. What I'm saying is specifically. Let me clarify.

[Moderator Sean]

He said, I'm happy these people are losing their jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

I am happy. I don't want them not to have a job. They have the option.

[Cobra]

So you're happy they're losing. Hold up, stop Stop, stop.

[Gary]

Let's go back a little bit on that. Why would you be happy that someone couldn't actually feed their family anymore?

[Justin Admiral]

I will explain that because I listen, I'm very self interested. I'm very narcissistic, man. I'm trying to win at life. And if some people that are advocating for policies that are bad for me and mine and my group of people, I listen, I want them to not be winning.

[Cobra]

They can still vote.

[Justin Admiral]

Sure, they can vote.

[Pedro]

Yeah.

[Cobra]

But guess what?

[Justin Admiral]

Money talks. I can buy ads, they can't. There's all sorts of things. We know this is a thing. And listen, I'm not sad that Big Tech has maybe not got the influence it did before, except there's more influence than ever before. But what I'm saying is these people not. Well, AI can't vote, the people can. So they're losing at least some portion of power they might have alternative stuff.

[Cobra]

If people lose their job, if a. Hold on, if a communist loses their job, they're going to become more of a communist. What are you talking about?

[Justin Admiral]

In capitalism, what you're apprecia for is communism itself, right?

[Cobra]

I'm saying I don't want people to lose their jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

I want them to lose their jobs. Why? They have to go into something that's benefiting us. I don't. We don't need these supplementary industries. We need them to go into industries that are going to help us. Like why don't we need coders when AI can do it? Go start building ships. Why do you hate manufacturing?

[Pedro]

Doing.

[Gary]

Who said that?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, well you just said. You're trying to put words in my mouth. You're the one sitting here saying, oh, I don't want manufacturing to grow. I like.

[Cobra]

When did I say that?

[Justin Admiral]

Explain what you said. You're so sad.

[Cobra]

I don't want people to lose their jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

I don't want to lose their jobs and dog jobs. I want them to go into industries that help us. How does AVID code that like help us? Whenever the AI can do it for us, we don't need that job. You're advocating that we pay people to do jobs that aren't needed. You're advocating for literal socialism.

[Gary]

You understand that's what I want people to have a living way wage. No, yeah, that's exactly, that's socialism.

[Justin Admiral]

You want to, you know, universal, like a wage program for the government.

[Gary]

No, I think in California the way it should be one thing and in New York it should be another.

[Justin Admiral]

Oh, so you, I mean, I'm saying get rid of minimum wage.

[Leo]

Cold.

[Justin Admiral]

Completely. I mean, what, like you're advocating literally for socialism?

[Gary]

I'm not activating for socialism or communism. What I'm basically trying to tell you is let the free market decide. But you. The free market. The free market has to actually put those jobs out there. If AI takes the jobs away, then there's no more capitalism and in the. And we become a communist nation because all the people at the bottom are going to demand the basic income. Don't you understand that?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah. So what happened with the Whalers? They all went to other.

[Cobra]

Well, again with these Whalers. Well, I mean, they don't even exist as a hockey team anymore. You bring them up anymore.

[Justin Admiral]

Because I'm talking about history. I mean, they're called the.

[Cobra]

What is it, the Carolina Hurricanes now.

[Gary]

They're not even the Harford Whalers anymore.

[Cobra]

What are you talking about?

[Justin Admiral]

I'm talking about, like, when they're getting whale oil, bro. I'm talking about historical precedent. That's something you seem to be understanding. Not very much at all. Which is crazy, because I thought you did. Patterns. But you're sitting here not understanding. This has happened over and over again where they get one industry, something changes, and then we move into a new industry. And you act like it's, oh, no, no, this is so bad.

[Gary]

You know, it's very interesting because if you listen to him, you start looking a very, very small percentage of what actually happens in the world. Let's go back to slavery in 1860.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, let's talk about that.

[Gary]

Why do you. Did those racist white men. Why did they get rid of the slaves? Because they grew a conscience one day. No, they did it because they needed capitalism. And you can't have a capitalistic society unless you have a middle class. Why would someone pay someone a living wage when you have slave labor? And what happened was in the 1860s and all over the world, whether it's serfdom in Russia or slavery here in America, they got rid of that because they need to build the infrastructure of the world. They knew to bring the highways. They needed to burn the manufacturing. The thing is, they don't need to anymore because now they have slave labor in the form of AI. There's. The middle class is going to be wiped out. I understand. You don't give a. You just want to be up there in the very top.

[Justin Admiral]

I understand.

[Cobra]

You don't care.

[Justin Admiral]

I know you don't.

[Cobra]

You just said you don't care. You don't give a fuck a. Yeah, and that's fine.

[Gary]

That's your prerogative as a United States citizen. If you don't want to give a, that's fine. But the thing is, when the middle class is destroyed by AI they're gonna be coming for their basic income. And that is socialism.

[Cobra]

AI is causing socialism. And your ass is going to see that with everyone else's here in a couple years. Right now you guys are blind to it. They're coming for your jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

Oh yeah, they're coming for jobs just like the Democrats in 1860. They're taking our jobs. Who's gonna pick our cotton? I mean like, it's crazy work. Listen, I like hear what you're saying. You're saying I don't care. No, what you don't understand is I don't care about people wishing bad policy. What I don't care about is people that don't have the gumption to get up off their ballsack and go and do something with their life. If these guys can't find another job cause all they can do is code, fuck em. They're not worth it. They're worthless to society. Why do you want. I want these people. I want people to live better. I want instill good values in society. Instead what you're pushing is oh, no child left behind. We got to be all to make sure everybody's included. Like I want.

[Cobra]

If a million people lose their jobs, okay, how are they going to feed their kids?

[Justin Admiral]

Oh, well, you know, that's not really.

[Cobra]

Oh, that's not your. Let me tell you why it is your problem. Because when someone needs to feed their kids, whether they have money or not, they're gonna find the way. And see, this is the problem with your elitist mindset. They're gonna come for your ass and they're gonna come for your food. They're gonna see, oh, you think the whole economy is gonna implode and Johnny's gonna have his lights on and they're not gonna be looking at you. Yeah, this is a very narrow mindset

[Justin Admiral]

to blow them up then. So whatever. I mean, but I think what Gibbs

[Moderator Sean]

is referring to is like the adaptability. Like when we get from handwritten to typewriter.

[Gary]

Yes.

[Moderator Sean]

People change from being calligraphy to.

[Gary]

I agree with that. I'm telling, I'm telling you. AI is a complete completely different.

[Pedro]

But you just.

[Justin Admiral]

You just completely different your own point right there.

[Cobra]

No, I didn't. Nothing is like AI all the other stuff.

[Justin Admiral]

What did you just say?

[Cobra]

When we went from horseback to machines, it's one thing, but we're going to AI Economy. It's coming for everyone's jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

You're literally doing.

[Cobra]

It's not gonna.

[Moderator Sean]

Let's let Gibbs.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah.

[Gary]

These people are gonna be.

[Justin Admiral]

You're literally doing double speaking. You don't realize it. You just said, okay, they, I have a million people. People get fired and they can't feed their kids. What are they going to do? They're going to find.

[Gary]

Look on the computer. How many people lost their jobs? AI just this year, how many people lost their jobs?

[Justin Admiral]

What did you just say? Do you realize what you just said? You said, oh, they're going to find a way. That's called getting a job.

[Cobra]

They're going to find a way. If there's no jobs, they're going to rob your ass. That's what's going to happen. They're going to rob your ass.

[Justin Admiral]

Even in refugee camps, businesses develop. Right. Because this is why humans are.

[Cobra]

Black market develops.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, that's called capitalism.

[Cobra]

There's not enough jobs for.

[Justin Admiral]

That said, there's always going to be jobs being created, no matter what. As long as there are needs, the free market's going to take care of it. You're literally, you advocate for capitalism and then archae for socialism. You understand?

[Gary]

I'm not arguing for socialism.

[Cobra]

I'm arguing for common sense. If millions of people lose their jobs, they're going to need to feed their kids somehow, which means they're going to

[Gary]

start going, no, there's not.

[Cobra]

There's no jobs. There's no jobs. There's not going to be any jobs. They're going to start robbing people and killing people in the streets. That's what's going to happen.

[Gary]

So go ahead.

[Moderator Sean]

I have one that says AI has recently been cited as a major cause of layoffs with 21,490 AI related cuts in April 2026, representing 26% of total layoffs. That is supported. And then, oh, it just went again.

[Justin Admiral]

Well, on the flip side, this is also going to work. Why don't you look up the job numbers on your truck? And then you can also look at how many new businesses have been open. AI is allowing people that have never had access to two industries be able to do things.

[Cobra]

There's good and there's good and bad.

[Justin Admiral]

With everything like I'm able to do.

[Gary]

And there's more bad, there's more bad with it. Even though, even, even though I make more money off AI, even though it's been a good thing for me, I can recognize that it's a bad thing for society. But I do Understand that there are going to be people out there who actually benefit from AI and become millionaires.

[Cobra]

I mean, I got majority, but the

[Gary]

majority of the people are going to lose because of AI. It's going to be like a casino. Some people are going to win, most people are going to lose.

[Justin Admiral]

Well, yeah, I mean it's just like any industry, when there's a new big change, if you don't understand a new change, then you're done. There's dot com bubble, that was the thing. They didn't know when to get out. Like every industry's got his dark side and you pick this one. And I think it's literally because of what your background is. You're the guy with all the numbers, all the patterns, you know that.

[Gary]

I already told you, it helped me. I already told you, it helps you. I cannot do it better than me, Right, okay, sure.

[Justin Admiral]

Not yet. It will, eventually it'll be.

[Gary]

I mean, that's. Well, AI can only do what humans teach you to do at this point. And since I'm the best of the best, I never released all my information in the public. It's not going to happen anytime soon.

[Justin Admiral]

But here's the thing, right? So, okay, I'll give you an example. Meta, right? As an AI, my dad has no social media right at all. It'll suggest. Oh, is this Mr. So and so? Whenever I pull it up on Facebook and stuff, AI is already able to come up with conclusions based off stuff with surrounding information without having all the info in hand. I mean, no offense to you, you're pretty smart guy, probably, but you're not Prometheus coming down from the mountain with the fire from the gods that teach us some shit that nobody could ever figure out.

[Gary]

I've actually done more than Jesus Christ and Muhammad. I actually spread numerology and astrology mainstream, which is something no one else on this planet ever could do. So there you go.

[Justin Admiral]

The Bible. I mean, the second best one, the Quran.

[Gary]

You mean fiction books?

[Justin Admiral]

Fiction books. Okay, yeah. I mean, sure, I guess. I mean, they're good fiction.

[Gary]

If you say so. If you say so. I mean, well, how does a virgin have a child?

[Justin Admiral]

Listen, I'm sorry, I'm not here to debate that.

[Cobra]

I know you're not.

[Leo]

I know.

[Justin Admiral]

We can. I got two religious doctors. We want to go down that. I mean, God came in and gave her a birth.

[Cobra]

Praise the Lord.

[Gary]

Okay, man.

[Cobra]

Maybe Santa Claus will come down your chimney too.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, sure.

[Cobra]

I mean, maybe you'll put on the Santa Claus.

[Moderator Sean]

There you go.

[Gary]

Put your change Your hat and everything.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, pop in. I'll be talking in like, it'll be good to times. I mean, what is this? I mean, you're sitting here saying that you're denying historical precedent. How can you deny.

[Gary]

This is. This is a whole different ball game. AI is a whole. Because right now we're talking artificial intelligence. Before those machines, people still to operate machines. Now these computers at some point are going to start thinking for themselves. That's very dangerous.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, sure. I mean, I, I disagree. I think that once we become more integrated, I mean, we look at Elon Musk, right? He's leading the way on some of this stuff he's talking about doing. Nearly. We've seen people use AI.

[Gary]

Yeah, yeah, he's.

[Cobra]

He's talking about putting chips in the people.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, I mean, it's able people.

[Cobra]

And wait a second.

[Pedro]

You're.

[Cobra]

You're, you're, you're a Bible guy, right?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, sure.

[Cobra]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Okay, so you're not worried about the mark of the beast with Elon Musk?

[Cobra]

Of course you're not. You're a good Christian.

[Gary]

You are.

[Justin Admiral]

Because once again, good Christian, you are. Well, the tribulation hasn't happened. So if you know your Bible, then you don't have to know the Bible.

[Cobra]

He's putting chips in people. You think he's a good guy?

[Justin Admiral]

Clearly, that's not the mark of the deep, Houston, because nobody's been raptured out of here. Hey, lord, there's still 10 people here.

[Gary]

It's called Antichrist, right?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah. The Antichrist. Yeah.

[Gary]

All right, so the first, the first. The first letter is A, and the last letter is I. AI.

[Cobra]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Justin Admiral]

Sure. I mean, you just quote 40k and say a dominant intelligence. That's cool. But, like, I mean, like, I'm just sitting here hearing what you're saying, and it's just. You're like, you're just grasping at straws. The Antichrist is AI.

[Gary]

Like, oh, I. I think there's a good chance that the. I believe that the Antichrist can. And demons and jinn can take over NPCs, people who are soulless. I think I take over their bodies. And yes, I think it can take over AIs, too. I mean, are you. I mean, you could try to rub a whole bunch of things, see if it works for you.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, it works out real good.

[Cobra]

I don't want to be around when you do it, though.

[Justin Admiral]

Like, are you saying, like, a genie's gonna come out and, like, take over?

[Cobra]

Ain't gonna be a good Genie, brother.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, but like, listen to what you said. You're saying that is more realistic than looking at historical precedent. Like, come on, like, you think that some, like, spirit from on high is just going to take over AI? Like, what is this?

[Gary]

I do believe that's a possibility, yes.

[Justin Admiral]

I think maybe you watched a few too many likes.

[Gary]

I actually don't watch movies anymore. No, I stopped watching movies about three years ago.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, but you see Terminator, though.

[Gary]

I mean.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, you're worried about the plot of that.

[Cobra]

I'm not. I'm not worried.

[Gary]

It just makes common. It's just common sense. That's going to be the end game.

[Justin Admiral]

Really? That's the common sense.

[Cobra]

When.

[Gary]

When computers start building themselves and they're conscious themselves, what do they need us for?

[Justin Admiral]

Is us for?

[Gary]

What do they need us for?

[Justin Admiral]

They also don't need anything. Right?

[Gary]

Like, it's not like they need energy, bro.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, they need energy. That's.

[Cobra]

They need energy.

[Gary]

So wait a second, what happens?

[Cobra]

Wait, said.

[Gary]

Didn't Jeff Bezos say that humans drink too much water and AI needs it? AI needs the water and humans are drinking too much water. You can see if the Jeff Bezos. Something like that.

[Justin Admiral]

I think somebody said.

[Gary]

Yeah, something like that. So again, they're going to be competing. AI is going to be competing for the water. You have a whole bunch of humans on the planet drinking water. They don't need that. They're competing for resources. Get rid of them.

[Justin Admiral]

The world is 75 water. Right. I think we're gonna be okay.

[Gary]

I don't know.

[Justin Admiral]

We can use.

[Gary]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You never know underwater even. I mean, they. They're definitely doing it, but like, the. With the way that AI is going right now and it's constant need for more and more energy. Yeah, we might be competing with AI in this future for that energy. And when computers are conscious, are they going to actually allow us to have energy problem?

[Justin Admiral]

If it's. We've already had math problems that could never be solved by humans, solved by AI We've leaped so much faster with technology that, like, it's like benefiting on every single level. We literally have benefiting.

[Gary]

Like, are the taxi cab drivers benefiting who lost their jobs? Are the truck drivers benefiting who lost their jobs?

[Cobra]

Are the Clippers who have dominated social media for three years now, who are losing their jobs in Mass, Are they benefiting from AI? Oh, no, that job wasn't even a

[Justin Admiral]

job three years ago. Like, I mean, you're literally arguing about things like, listen, the only one of those jobs that was before was the truck drivers and the other one, the Clippers. They didn't have a job putting years ago. There was no.

[Gary]

That's how quick. That's how quick. That's how quick the industry moves.

[Moderator Sean]

Now we got a red light on the Jeff Bezos. Multiple fact checks confirmed. Jeff Bezos never said this.

[Justin Admiral]

Quoted.

[Moderator Sean]

It is fabricated.

[Cobra]

Okay. That's why I said.

[Gary]

That's why I said contextualizing. But it does make, it does make sense. I said.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not.

[Gary]

It does make sense.

[Justin Admiral]

I saw a little meme, but yeah. The point though I'm making is like you're saying these things every single time in human history. We've had a great tech jump forward. We, we, we benefit from it. In the long run, there might be a terrible transitionary period. But like, you're sitting here worried about the transition.

[Cobra]

AI is going to take more jobs

[Gary]

than it gives the fuck out.

[Justin Admiral]

Like, if you're sitting here this worried about stopping it and saying it's going to ruin America.

[Cobra]

I didn't say stop it. Well, okay then I didn't say stop it.

[Justin Admiral]

What, what, what.

[Cobra]

What I said is we need a

[Gary]

way to protect the workers. And we have a AI race right now with China.

[Andrew Wilson]

Right.

[Gary]

We have to win that race under all circumstances. But that doesn't mean we can't put laws into effect and say, yo, truck drivers have to be human or taxi drivers have to be human. We, we can still put laws in that like that. Why would you do that? To save people's jobs.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, okay, but we don't. Shouldn't do just anything just to save jobs. That's anti. That's literally socialism. Once again, you are working against the free market.

[Cobra]

If that's socialism, the hospitals are socialism, then the police are socialism and the army socialism. The same teachers are soliciting how far you want to go.

[Justin Admiral]

That's wrong.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Justin Admiral]

Once I want to. Yeah, this is. That's different. Those are civil services hospitals. And we have. Which are still not socialism because that's capitalism. We have insurance industry. Doctors work. They get paid different places. They have a private health care. We have all sorts of different. That's not socialism at all. We have the military. That's not socialism.

[Gary]

So Medicaid isn't socialism.

[Justin Admiral]

It's a civil service.

[Gary]

Medicaid isn't socialism.

[Cobra]

Medicaid isn't socialism. Obamacare and socialism.

[Justin Admiral]

Those are socialism. Do you understand why those are socialism? I don't think you do. Those are literal direct impacts on the free market, what you're prescribed as opposed to the military, which is going to be a civil service that has some market aspects to it, but it's primarily there to fight other people, not to make money. Versus when you're talking about these other

[Gary]

industries, what's not there to make money?

[Justin Admiral]

The military. I mean the military industrial complex makes money, but the military in and of itself is designed to be the protection of the nation, all nations. Right. So that's why when you sit here talking about these other things like, oh, I want to put regulations on AI so these people have these jobs, that is literally socialism. Because you're actually going in there and impacting the economy of the country. That's a different thing than what you're.

[Gary]

So the mill. So the military itself is in socialism?

[Justin Admiral]

No.

[Gary]

Okay, so when you have senators that fight for certain bases not to be closed because they are have representatives in that district. Exactly. So it is actually somewhat socialism because they're fighting for something that is obsolete, it makes sense to close down their that base, but they will fight for it because their people in their district have jobs there. What are those jobs called?

[Justin Admiral]

What are those jobs called? And we found upon that generally, what is that called?

[Gary]

Contractors.

[Justin Admiral]

Port barrel polite policies. Right. That's the term in political science. So when you sit here talking about port parallel policies, those are unanimously frowned upon across the board. Yeah, it's good for the individuals. But once again, yeah, that would be a form of socialism because they're sitting here taking economic impact. But when you talk about socialism itself, that's a form of government. That's why social contract anywhere with social in it, is it not just socialism? You can't just be like, oh, government exists. That's socialism. That's dumb. That's not what socialism is. The Romans weren't socialists. They had a military, they had civil services. None of those services were socialism. But when you sit here and talk about, hey, I want to put economic limits on jobs, on what jobs you have, what you can do with AI If I own a business, why shouldn't I be able to use AI for all this other stuff? Why should I out compete the people in the tax.

[Gary]

You know, the perfect example for you, the perfect example for you is 2008 when the great Recession happens, when the Federal Reserve had to start bailing out institutions. That is socialism. But they did it at that point because if they didn't, the whole economy, that was bad. Right. So they use socialism to protect capitalism. Correct?

[Justin Admiral]

Sure.

[Gary]

Okay. So there's my point.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, I'm sure that happens, but I, I would argue that would have been better to let it fail. Like, yeah, it sucks.

[Gary]

Oh, it would have been better if.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, the long term, I think it would have better. Sometimes you have to have a hard crash to like reset things to get things going better. I mean, if you sit here and you saw like Trump, Trump is a populist, right? He's coming here to shake things up. You want people that are going to sit and reset things from time to time like this.

[Cobra]

So if you weren't, you were, if you were in a position in 2008,

[Gary]

if you were Ben Bernanke in 2008, you would have let GM fail, you would have let all those companies fail. You would have let the whole supply chain get destroyed. You would have had millions upon millions of people become unemployed.

[Cobra]

That's what you would have done.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, I mean, I would have to.

[Cobra]

Thank God you're not our president. Thank God you're not a politics.

[Gary]

Because we would have been screwed under you.

[Justin Admiral]

Listen, I mean, the thing is this. I had a professor in college, right.

[Gary]

And he didn't teach you much.

[Justin Admiral]

Did he used to say the pain now or the pain later? Right. And it seems like what you want is the pain later. I mean, clearly I'm not the one who's not understanding education because you're the one who doesn't have any understanding of history, historical context of what's going to happen going forward. Like we can look at predictions and everything you're saying is not panning out.

[Gary]

So, so here's, here's the beautiful thing about the Internet. This is going to be around in three years and people in three years will be able to see if the, you know, cowboy hat guy was right or the guy in the cobra cat.

[Justin Admiral]

That's right.

[Cobra]

We'll see it.

[Gary]

And I promise you, you, I promise you, when people watch this, in a couple years, they're going to be laughing your dumbass.

[Cobra]

Well, that's good.

[Justin Admiral]

Here's the best part about this though, is even if I'm wrong, that means the society, if I'm wrong, that means, hey, socialism works because we're post scarcity and AI is able to find everybody. We're all rich and living like fat Roman emperors.

[Cobra]

I mean, we both are good. You know what I'm saying?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, okay.

[Cobra]

You know what I'm saying?

[Justin Admiral]

That means everybody's gonna get that, you

[Cobra]

know, it's a good capitalist. Got a little belly on it.

[Justin Admiral]

That's right. But I'm just saying, even under your. Even under your system, they lose their jobs, the AI socialism takes over. And I'm wrong, guess what? Those people are gonna live glorious lives under the OR Skynet. And happy and be taken care of. Yeah. Why would they want to kill us if we're gonna be. They're gonna benefit off us.

[Cobra]

They don't need us anymore.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, just because they don't need you, then you're less than. They're like ants. I don't go actively just kill ants. Like if I don't need to do you go and just like, kill things that don't need to do. You see a butterfly, go pull the wings off?

[Gary]

No, I don't think so.

[Leo]

No.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, so, like, I mean, are you gonna Skynet gonna be like, hey, that Gibbs over there? He's walking. Let me just go rip his arm? No, they're not gonna do that either.

[Gary]

Listen, brother, I appreciate you coming. I think if you ever want to beat me at something, maybe we should do a hot dog eating contest. Maybe that. Maybe we should, you know, do one of those. But here, brother, you need a lot of work. Anyways, I appreciate you coming.

[Justin Admiral]

Appreciate it.

[Cobra]

Thank you.

[Moderator Sean]

Love it.

[Pedro]

If you learned anything from this episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to us. Thank you so much.

[Gary]

All right, brother. What's up?

[Pedro]

What's up, man? Pedro. Peter.

[Gary]

When I get pulled over, though. Okay. Yeah, yeah. What's going on, brother?

[Pedro]

What's going on, man?

[Gary]

All right, number one, you vaccinated?

[Pedro]

No.

[Gary]

Outstanding. I respect you more. Thank you.

[Cobra]

Thank you.

[Gary]

All right, so what's going on?

[Cobra]

What.

[Gary]

What are we talking about? So with the numerology. So tie with religion, though.

[Pedro]

Okay, this is tied with religion, cuz. I interviewed a guy who does Paloma, right? You do numerology and you do readings.

[Gary]

I think it's accurate, right?

[Cobra]

At a point.

[Gary]

Well, yeah, yeah, there's the people that do terrorists.

[Pedro]

Same thing as well.

[Gary]

I wanted to see what your thoughts on that too. Tarot cards.

[Pedro]

Yeah, Terror.

[Gary]

I think tarot or guy don't give you direct answers. They can just guide you. And quite frankly, I'll. Here's the thing. I think most numerologists are frauds. I think most astrologers. I think most tarot people are frauds. Because if you're gonna claim you have all the, you know, answers in the universe, why you broke.

[Cobra]

You know, I'm being dead serious, man.

[Gary]

Like Listen, if I came to you

[Cobra]

and I say I got the best fitness program on the planet, I will get you a six pack, baby.

[Gary]

You're gonna call me a fraud as you should. Same thing with the numerologist who's broke. You understand what I'm trying to tell you? If they have no money, they have no claim to anything. It's all ideas, nothing you have to verify. And this is how you fucking verify.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, no.

[Gary]

Sean see me win six figures in the sports book many times in a day.

[Moderator Sean]

Poor Sean's getting pulled into this a lot.

[Gary]

I got, I got a name drop. I got a name drop. When you pass away, like whenever it happens, do you think you're going to go heaven or hell or what? I think I'm going to the fourth dimension. What's that for you? What does it look like? What does it look like? I don't think my human mind and the limitations I have in my mind can even comprehend what that is. So by me saying what I think it is would be an injustice to everyone listening because I'd be giving you

[Cobra]

a whole bunch of.

[Pedro]

I only asked you that just because I know.

[Gary]

And which is fine, right? Like I'm Catholic myself, but I'm open minded and I like it. So I only asked that because I'm just. You believe a virgin had a child at extent. I don't even know what in 2026 to believe now anymore. Right. That's why I'm open minded. Like to learn that's what the numerology. Because I'm just like with religion. I know you're very like, hey, I believe it to an extent. Just like when you were talking to that guy, right? With the being Christian. I believe we all get judged. I'm with the Christians on that. I believe that when we die we're all going to be judged. And I believe the prime creator is going to judge us based off. You know me as a numerologist. Okay. When I moved to Miami, I had the chance to be an only fans manager for about 2040. Only fan girls. That's against my moral compass. I can't do that. Not because I'm a Christian, not because I'm a Muslim, but because I think that's degenerate and I want nothing to do with it. I have my own moral compass. I could have made 1 to 2 million a month doing that. And I said no, that. So I believe that was a test that was put on to me to see if I could pass.

[Moderator Sean]

Test.

[Gary]

Okay, your test might be different. Maybe you're in a committed relationship with a woman, but yo, that down the street, yo, she's bad as and she's trying to do something this goddamn weekend. And you could clap that. What are you gonna do? Are you gonna go out there and this and up your karma, or are you gonna be committed to the person you have a relationship with? That might be your challenge to someone else. You know, to a. A very attractive woman, a 19 year old. She got the body, she got the looks. Is she gonna sleep herself all the way to the top? Is she gonna be a. That doesn't close her legs just so she can get millions of dollars? Or is she gonna find that good guy who's going to take care of her, gonna have kids and do things the right way?

[Cobra]

We're all going to be judged in different ways.

[Gary]

I just believe the numerology will show us which way we can be judged. I'm a 33 life path now. A lot of Christians, this might mean something else, but get that on camera there. I'm not flexing guys. But to me that means I'm gonna have a lot of influence in the world. And whether you guys like me or hate me, you know I'm the most influential person in my space. That's not even close. Everyone knows that I am going to be held responsible for what I actually influence people to do. I'm not going to influence people to be degenerates. Do you know in 2023, I was offered millions of dollars to convert to a religion. I said no, because if I convert to this religion, millions and millions of my followers are going to convert too. And I'm not going to do that to people. So that's my moral compass. That's how I live my life. You might live your life a different way. I find it very interesting that the Muslims always call me some kind of kafir and stuff like that. Yet I don't drink, I don't eat pork. I'm a better Muslim than Sneako. That flat out. Yeah. You, you Christians out there, you know, you, you guys are all talking about yo, the Bible this, the Bible that, yet you have a whole bunch of Catholics that support gay marriage. I mean, what, what the is this? What is this, Pedro?

[Moderator Sean]

You have offered no pushback whatsoever. And shame on all of you for not holding up your big red signs. I'm calling it. I am calling it, Pedro. I'm booting you because you've sat here and you've let him roll on and on and on with all of these Claims.

[Cobra]

And you, I can start debating you if you want.

[Gary]

No pushback whatsoever. No, I was just, I was just interested with the.

[Pedro]

With tied with religion and numerology.

[Gary]

This is how dragons debate. They're very calm.

[Justin Admiral]

This is question.

[Gary]

This is how.

[Moderator Sean]

This is how they asked him questions. You have been a curious little kitten. If I want to be a curious little kitten, I'm going to ask you to come over so I can interview you for a show. Go, Pedro. I want Zach up next.

[Cobra]

Zach, she said go hit the brick.

[Moderator Sean]

You did great, though. Those are good questions.

[Gary]

Who's next?

[Pedro]

Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.

[Moderator Sean]

All right.

[Leo]

All right.

[Gary]

Are you vaccinated, sir?

[Leo]

Hell no.

[Gary]

Okay. And why didn't you get vaccinated when the whole world was telling you that if you didn't get vaccinated, you're a bad person? If you didn't get vaccinated, you're probably going to die? Why didn't you believe the government propaganda?

[Andrew Wilson]

I just, I value my own freedom, you know, I value my own choice.

[Gary]

And so you're a Republican?

[Rollo Tomassi]

I would say.

[Gary]

So you're not a Democrat?

[Leo]

No.

[Gary]

You didn't vote for Harris?

[Rollo Tomassi]

No.

[Gary]

All right, brother, shoot. What's on your mind? Okay, so first I want to ask you, do you think you could roll a die and roll a six a

[Andrew Wilson]

million times in a row? No, but is it possible?

[Gary]

I mean, it's possible that I could, you know, grow wings and fly? You know, I guess that's possible, too. Anything's possible, I guess, maybe. But like, in a statistical chance, like, you could, I, I think you could theoretically roll. I, I, I think I have a better chance of growing wings and flying out of here than you have a rolling a six a million times in a row.

[Andrew Wilson]

Yeah, but it's technically not impossible.

[Gary]

Okay, get you get to your point. So when you make claims like you're

[Andrew Wilson]

right with sports betting, you're right however

[Gary]

many times in a row, like, isn't there a chance that you're just on a heater? You're on like, all that. That's why I said I want in the past 27 NBA finalists. I'm 22 and five. That's why, that's why you have to have a track record. I won every super bowl this decade, and I've been betting on underdogs, too. So, again, it is what it is. Sorry, I haven't been alive for a million years to give you a different million. You know, it is what it is.

[Andrew Wilson]

And when you talk about, like, I think my birthday is 4 12, 1999,

[Gary]

I don't think it is 412.99.

[Leo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Okay, so you're a psychologist. You like to figure out how people tick. You like to ask questions people are the answer to.

[Andrew Wilson]

And I'm not lying, honestly, no.

[Gary]

Okay. But I think these statements are very vague that most people will agree with. Like, like nobody's ever gonna call themselves a loser. Oh. I mean, I mean, my man over here. My man over here kind of did. I mean, like, you're always gonna have people that are shy about themselves or

[Andrew Wilson]

not believe in themselves.

[Gary]

But if you, if you ask most

[Leo]

people, like, are you a leader?

[Justin Admiral]

Right. Like, everyone's be like, yeah, I'm a leader.

[Gary]

Like, I don't, I don't think, I don't think most people think they're leaders. I, I disagree.

[Cobra]

Guys, do you all think you're leaders?

[Gary]

Yes. Every single one of you thinks you're a leader? He didn't. Okay. Okay. I mean, okay, so I, again, you know, one guy is being truthful. Some guys are lying to themselves and, you know, other guys actually believe it.

[Pedro]

That's true.

[Gary]

Go ahead. And, and when you talk about these life paths, do they only work in Western civilization?

[Leo]

Because what if you were to go

[Rollo Tomassi]

to, like, Papua New Guinea?

[Gary]

That's a great question.

[Justin Admiral]

New Guinea.

[Gary]

A great question. You go to, to some, you know,

[Andrew Wilson]

guy there, I won't even speak your language. And you go, or anybody.

[Gary]

That's a great question.

[Leo]

You go, you go.

[Andrew Wilson]

Your life path is a six. You know, you're, you're probably

[Gary]

rich and you're a leader and all these things. Six life pats are home and family.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm guessing.

[Gary]

I, I wish I knew all of them, but I don't.

[Justin Admiral]

You can learn.

[Gary]

And beautiful thing. And he, and he looks at you. He's just like, no, I'm going to go kill a panther later.

[Justin Admiral]

I don't know.

[Gary]

Like, you know, so, so, so the beautiful thing is environment actually matters. That's the beautiful thing. See, I never, I never was the one who said numerology and astrology dictates 100% of everything. If you're born in the Middle east, you're most likely going to be a Muslim. If you're born in South Carolina, you're most likely going to be a goddamn Christian. But see, there's certain things. California, I'd probably Be a communist. But if you, if you were homosexual but you know it is what it is, but you know when, when it comes, hey, we're here to entertain. But when it comes down to see, I said say things that I'm about

[Cobra]

to go with a heater.

[Gary]

Man, you get this with age, man. Where was I at? Anyone. Homosexuals.

[Cobra]

That's the one thing you guys remember. That's the white sticky point with you guys.

[Andrew Wilson]

Wait, where it matters. It matters. Environment, where you're okay, all those things.

[Gary]

So like I was saying, if you're Christian, you're born in South Carolina. If you're a Muslim, you're born in the Middle east, but say you're an Aquarius and you're a Muslim, or say you're an Aquarius and you're a Christian. And Aquariuses have a natural instinct to rebel. Whatever conformity is around them, they will rebel against it. So if that Muslim Aquarius Muslim was born in the Middle east, he'll rebel against Islam. If that Aquarius who was born in South Carolina was born in an environment around the church, he'll rebel against it. This, this is the type of things, they're absolutes. I don't know what someone's environment is, but I know how they will actually try to conform to it. That's, that's what I've learned with numerology, I guess.

[Andrew Wilson]

But we're all still technically human at the end of the day.

[Gary]

So I, I think it shouldn't matter if you're born and like, you don't think it matters.

[Andrew Wilson]

Like I don't matter. I don't think it matters if you're somebody in, you know, a remote island or yourself.

[Gary]

Oh, I, I, I think it matters if you have a cable tv, if you have a smartphone, two cars, all the creeps at your comforts and some other living in a fucking hut.

[Cobra]

You better believe that matters.

[Gary]

But, but so here, so now you're using outside and I said influence. I said influence. I said environment matters. You know, I'm not changing. I think if you're, if you're coming

[Andrew Wilson]

down to like strictly astrology, stars or numerology, right? Like, you should then ignore all outside influence.

[Gary]

No, that's stupid. That's stupid.

[Andrew Wilson]

So then why does it not just work on its own?

[Gary]

Because you have parents and no matter what your numerology is, you're going to be put in different environments. So you're going to react to those environments in different ways based off your number. I'll give you an example. Five Life Paths are the best looking women. The people born in the 5th, 14th, 23rd, or people who are fives, like Beyonce. Extremely good looking women. Okay, well, maybe not for you, but most people would say so. Okay.

[Cobra]

Yeah, okay. You're racist. Oh, you would hit Beyonce, huh? Okay, sir. Okay, sir. Beyonce's over here. He's not hitting that. Get the out of here.

[Leo]

Sorry.

[Gary]

All right, bro, come on. Let's have some credibility here. But if a five life path is born in some Muslim country where there are some strict laws against being a knowing you can get stoned, no, you can get killed if you keep your legs open, versus that same light 5 life path. Being in America with all the homosexuality, all the degeneracy, she's going to be more of a here than she ever would be in a Muslim country. So yes, environment matters, my friend.

[Cobra]

Don't let any numerologist tell you environment

[Gary]

doesn't matter because you know what a

[Cobra]

lot of you guys think.

[Gary]

I base every single thing about numerology and astrology. Yo, I take the best out of everything. I take the best out of everything. There's some things I like in the Bible, there's some things I like in Islam, there's some things I like in Judaism. Oh no, I must be a Mossad agent. So there's a lot of things I like. But when I look at a system that can help encompass everything, numerology would be my go to system. But I would also ask someone's environment that is important to me.

[Andrew Wilson]

So environment is, is what you're saying is the only thing that'll ever affect numerology in the sense of what, like where you're wrong?

[Moderator Sean]

It's the variable.

[Gary]

Yeah, I would say that would say that would be by far the biggest one.

[Moderator Sean]

So the constant would be the numbers, but the variable would be the environment.

[Gary]

Correct.

[Pedro]

Okay.

[Leo]

Okay.

[Andrew Wilson]

And to Your point, about 28.

[Gary]

That's 28 being the number of wealth.

[Andrew Wilson]

The number of wealth.

[Gary]

You know, you, you pick out a few people, right? Like Elon Musk and, and Bill Gates, Carl Salim. There's a lot of wealthy people, obviously.

[Cobra]

Clearly.

[Andrew Wilson]

There's a lot of billionaires, there's a

[Gary]

lot of millionaires, about 3,200 billionaires on the planet.

[Andrew Wilson]

A lot of millionaires.

[Gary]

And if you look at the richest people in the world, the top 40, 30 richest people in the world, you're going to see that number 28 pops up a lot more than any other number when it comes to wealth.

[Andrew Wilson]

I bet 22 pops up a lot.

[Gary]

I bet 21 pops up a lot. I bet all these. So. So again with. When I started making Those statements, the 28th number of wealth. I brought up the fact that the Dallas Cowboys were the richest franchise in the world. Sports franchise. I brought up the fact that Bill Gates was the richest man on earth. I brought the fact that Steve Jobs, born 224, 1955. Let's do the math together. 2241955, adds up to 28. Started Apple on 4, 1, 19. God, that's 1976 up a clip adds up to 28. They incorporated it on January 3rd, 1977, adds up to 28. And it's the cash richest. One of the cash richest companies in the world. So you see that people are actually using this and the. The ultimate lip. This test. The ultimate one was 20 years ago when I was talking about the richest guy on earth. It was Bill gates, born on 28th. And now we have a trillionaire class, and the guy who's in it is also born on the 28th. I think the case is closed. So you'll see.

[Andrew Wilson]

You'll see thousands of cars go by, and you won't. If I was like, how many red cars passed? I have no idea.

[Gary]

But if I tell you, okay, you look at all these cars going by count, how many red car, like, only pay, brother, I can't go.

[Cobra]

You're gonna. 7 billion people. I can't go through 7 billion cars. What I can do is look at the top people in every industry and be like, okay, the 28 is the one that rules God goddamn wealth.

[Gary]

The 11 rules money.

[Cobra]

No, I mean, sorry. The 11 rules being an athlete.

[Gary]

Kobe Bryant is an 11.

[Cobra]

He learned from Michael Jordan, who's 11,

[Gary]

who mentored Kobe, mentored Kyrie. Who's an 11.

[Cobra]

The best athletes tend to be 11 life paths we can go to. Dwayne Wade being an 11. We can go down the list. The second best athlete is a one. LeBron James is a one. Shaq is a one. Magic Johnson's a one. So ones and elevens are the best athletes. You look at the best athletes of all time, that number is going to

[Gary]

pop up every single time on a much stronger consistent basis than any other number. Is it going to be 100?

[Cobra]

No, but it's going to be there more than any other number.

[Gary]

And it's like that with looks. When it comes to five, let's talk about charisma. I like to think I have some, but, you know, maybe I'm just lying to myself, you know, But Joe Rogan's got charisma. He's born in the 11th. Aiden Ross, the guy who started this whole streaming game, he's born on 11th. I show Speed the number one streamer. It's not even close. He's an 11 life path.

[Cobra]

So you start looking at the top people in every field, you're gonna see

[Gary]

certain numbers are always there. Guess what, pimp? I can't look at 7,000, 7 million people, but I can look at the top people. And the answers keep hitting you in the face. Once you know what to look for, that is what numerology and astrology provides. Okay, what month was Elon Musk born in? June. And what month was Bill Gates Morning? October.

[Andrew Wilson]

What month was Mark Zuckerberg?

[Gary]

May.

[Leo]

Which.

[Andrew Wilson]

So which month is.

[Gary]

Which month specifically is. Numerology is not. Numerology isn't based off the months. It's based off the total birthday and the day someone's born on. Not on just one month. If you want to do that, then you want to start talking about astrology, correct?

[Moderator Sean]

I. Start tying yourself up.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah.

[Leo]

And.

[Gary]

And tell a moderator.

[Moderator Sean]

That's right.

[Andrew Wilson]

And some of that's just on my mind.

[Gary]

When you were talking with him back there about Elon Musk in your.

[Justin Admiral]

The prediction. Right.

[Andrew Wilson]

And a lot of what he was saying was, like, kind of subjective. Right. When you were saying Elon Musk gonna

[Gary]

have the worst year ever, I didn't watch that episode.

[Andrew Wilson]

But, like, did you say specifically a calendar year?

[Rollo Tomassi]

Like.

[Andrew Wilson]

Like 2025?

[Gary]

Yes, I said his enemy year, which is 2025 or fiscal year from right now on this show, before it happened. On this very show, I said Elon Musk would get thrown out of the Trump administration in 2025. And that happened. I mean, it's on tape. No one can argue that. I said that. I did. I guess that's one of the few predictions they got right. Right?

[Cobra]

It is. It is.

[Gary]

You know, clock's broken. Clock is. You know, there he.

[Cobra]

I get it, brother.

[Gary]

I get it.

[Leo]

Yeah.

[Andrew Wilson]

Broken classroom twice a day.

[Gary]

Hey, I appreciate it.

[Moderator Sean]

Thank you.

[Gary]

Good job, brother.

[Pedro]

Thanks for staying all the way to the end, guys. It means a lot to me. If you could please leave a review on Apple. That helps us climb the charts, it helps us get way more guests, and it helps us continue growing the podcast and the team. So it would mean a lot to me if you left the review on Apple or wherever else you're listening. Thanks so much.

[Gary]

How's it going?

[Cobra]

Good.

[Leo]

Nice.

[Gary]

So let's start. You vaccinated? I would have Rather sucked the handle and move on, buddy. Outstanding, brother, outstanding. You a Democrat? No, I'm a Republican. Okay. You're a Trump supporter? I voted for him, yeah. Are you one of those. I work in real estate and finance, so it behooves me. Are you one of those guys who hate Israel? I don't really have an opinion. You know, I don't want to go that far.

[Cobra]

We know where to live this Estes now.

[Gary]

All right, go ahead, brother.

[Justin Admiral]

So in the queen moderator.

[Gary]

She's probably going to hate me, but it's okay. She's a woman, an argumentative person. What are you doing here? What are you doing here then? I honestly don't know. But, hey, God brought me here. Did that talk to you? You think it's God? I think so. I think.

[Cobra]

You think it is.

[Gary]

You think God brought you.

[Rollo Tomassi]

But I think I agree.

[Gary]

But I think I agree with what? If you didn't actually wake up in the morning and decide to get dressed and actually drive on over here, then maybe it wouldn't have happened. Maybe that's not God. Let me ask you this. Do you think that when you wake

[Shaman Omar]

up every morning that.

[Gary]

Do you feel powerful, you feel blessed? No. You don't. You don't feel, like, innately chosen?

[Shaman Omar]

No.

[Gary]

But you're doing well.

[Leo]

I.

[Gary]

Well, yeah, but that's not because I was chosen. That's because I worked hard.

[Justin Admiral]

Okay, cool.

[Gary]

So that one of the. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask you questions, but how did you get into this? What brought you to this point? Were you in it? Seemed like you might have been raised religious. Yeah, I thought so. My dad was into Judaism. He brought me into temples. I always thought it was a whole bunch of crap. What'd you think about the first, The New Testament or the Old Testament? I think it's all garbage. I think the Christianity, Islam, I think they all have some good aspects in it. Yeah, me too. But I do think they're mostly garbage. What got me into numerology was very simple. Was 911 night. I woke up in the morning and, you know, I see the Twin Towers burning. And I. I think it's a movie. I thought, I'm watching Die Hard, you know, Bruce Willis and like that. And then the second plane hits. I'm like, oh, so, you know, I did what I could to pay respects. I went outside, smoked a blunt for all the people who, you know, lost their lives. And then I'm like, oh, man, Osama bin Laden did this. Because I was programmed to think that Way, Right, right. And then I started looking at stuff. I was like, wait a second. The first plane to hit the World Trade center was flight 11. And I'm like, crazy. It's the 11th, and New York City has 11 letters. The Pentagon has 11 letters. Afghanistan has 11 letters. Even that little town where that plane went down to Pennsylvania, Shanksville, had 11 letters. I look at the Twin Towers, they look like an 11. Side by side. They both have 110 stories. I'm thinking, like, what the. What's going on here? And then when I started digging even deeper, I'm like, wait a second. Al Qaeda, who they blame for this terrorist attack, was founded August 11th. They hit America on 9. 11. They hit Madrid, Spain, on 3. 11. They hit Mumbai, India, on July 11th. I'm like, wait a second. Is someone using numerology to plan terrorist attacks? That's the first thing I'm thinking. So what do I do? I talk to all the top numerologists of that time. Because then again, it's like early, late 2002. 1. And I'm. Are you gonna do the same thing? I take.

[Cobra]

Love you.

[Gary]

Okay, I like that.

[Justin Admiral]

Respect.

[Gary]

I like that. So I'm. I talked to all the top numerologists, and I'm like, listen, do you think someone's, like, planning terrorist attacks based off numerology? Like, no, that's crazy. That's crazy. And then I'm like, looking at all these people because, you know, I drove to their houses. I'm like, these are all old and they're all poor people. Yeah, yeah. Why am I listening to people who are poor? Right? You know, and I was poor at the time, too. They're behaving. So I'm like, wait a second. You know what? I started reading all the books, and I'm like, they're full of half truths. I'm like, this guy over here, this is. I threw the books away. I threw everything away, and I started just studying. People started studying their birthdays, started going to cemeteries, not doing any witchcraft, not doing any. But seeing when people are born and when they die, right? And I'm trying to figure out, why are people born with certain dates, dying on certain dates? And again, you know, this took a lot of years. I. I didn't even talk about numerology to anyone until I got this straight. And then I was like, you know what? It makes sense what they're doing, because 11 deals with emotional energy, and they do things under 11. Energy. The people in positions, power, basically, to get a reaction out of people. And back then, you know, the other example I always used to use was Oklahoma city. Oklahoma City happened. 419, 1995. Add it all up. 38, three days, 11. So again, you start looking at a consistent pattern here. And I'm like, okay, I see what you guys are doing.

[Leo]

Right, right.

[Gary]

So that's where it came from. It's very interesting. I really like the way that you look at the world. For me, what I think, what works for me.

[Justin Admiral]

I'm.

[Gary]

I don't believe that anybody should judge anybody. And that's what a real Christian.

[Cobra]

You don't.

[Gary]

You don't judge murderers. I mean, they. They don't judge rapists. It's not my job to judge. But wait, you don't. You think rapists should be out in the streets? I'm more referring to that. I just. I don't judge. It's not my job to judge them.

[Justin Admiral]

They'll be judged.

[Gary]

At the end of the day, my. What does my opinion matter? So do I think that. Do you have kids? No, I do not. Okay, maybe ones near me. That. Okay, maybe. Maybe if. Maybe. Maybe when you have kids, you'll change your view on it. I'm not condoning the behavior by any means, but how do you not judge? I'm just not. I don't judge what you. How you. Your view, your numerology. I've actually never heard of it before. That's fine. Let's take all the numerology aside. How do you not judge a rapist? He's over there literally destroying women's lives. Oh, he's. These people should be executed. Yeah, by a guillotine in the White House. So it should be a event. How do you not judge people like that? Oh, no, they're the worst. And I'll take that back. I do judge.

[Cobra]

Okay, now we talking.

[Gary]

Absolutely. Now we talking scum, but okay. People having different opinions about homosexual. You judge him. Oh, gosh, that's a tough one.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, if.

[Gary]

If you like to get plugged.

[Moderator Sean]

I mean, you're gonna end up. You're gonna end up putting your.

[Gary]

So wait a second. Wait. Wait a second. So if you don't judge homosexuals, would you. If you had kids, would you let a homosexual babysit your kids? It's a good question. Come on, man. It's not. You know damn well you want to do it. Would I let a homosexual babysit your kids? At My children. What's their thing? No, man, I think I would probably call maybe a nice Latina to do that. I'm gonna make the smart decision.

[Cobra]

I didn't say I'm not like. I didn't say babysit you.

[Justin Admiral]

Grinder is a great way to find

[Gary]

babysitters on Friday night.

[Cobra]

Again, I didn't say babysit you. But at the end of the day,

[Gary]

yes, you do have to judge people. And that's one of my problems with Christianity, because you guys always turn the other cheek. Someone smacks you, you turn the other cheek.

[Cobra]

Why do you think the Muslims are

[Gary]

dominating you right now? Now?

[Cobra]

Because they do not turn the other cheek. They go around. They don't let this degeneracy go around. Do you know what would happen if I was in charge?

[Gary]

Every only fans creator would be stripped of every penny they made, and they might be tossed in prison.

[Pedro]

Right?

[Gary]

I. I don't believe in democracy. Let me make this clear. I'm a fascist. I'm a goddamn fascist.

[Cobra]

I would never allow the degeneracy that goes around to affect our kids. This is goddamn garbage.

[Gary]

As a matter of fact, I wish there was this. I wish this Christian country was run by Christians, real Christians.

[Cobra]

They would put people to goddamn death

[Gary]

when they start around. But they're weak because they turn the other cheek. This is why a person like me, who would never get on his knees for a lot, actually is considering putting up with that garbage, because they will take care of the degeneracy in the streets. Maybe I just live in Miami. Yeah.

[Cobra]

You know, maybe I just see a lot of stuff there I don't like.

[Gary]

But listen, brother, this turn the other cheek philosophy is why Christians are losing. I mean, I'm not turning the other cheek. I just don't really have an opinion on what these folks are doing.

[Moderator Sean]

How do you not have opinions on stuff? Austin, you're killing me.

[Gary]

You look great today. That's a claim. And your eyes are really pretty.

[Cobra]

You're welcome.

[Gary]

So that's.

[Cobra]

That's how you deal with a woman right there. That's how you deal with the woman right there. Don't worry about the fact right here.

[Pedro]

Just.

[Cobra]

Just start, you know, kissing their ass.

[Gary]

So I don't think people should get married without a numerologist and astrologer actually consulting them. The problem with that is most numerologists and astrologers are frauds, too. I remember me calling out this one woman named Allison. I told you I'd bring your name up. This. This. This has been divorced three times, and she's selling people matchmaking advice like, get the up out of here, man. And then when I check her on that you hate Women?

[Cobra]

No. I hate lying fucking bitches.

[Gary]

Two more. She gets the affinity gauntlet, though.

[Moderator Sean]

All right, Austin.

[Gary]

I'm working on my own.

[Moderator Sean]

Austin, give your final closing thoughts to Gary.

[Justin Admiral]

Okay, so I guess my.

[Gary]

My last thing would be because I think me and you agree in a lot of ways, but if. Why if. If your worst case or your best case scenario is that God's not real and you don't.

[Cobra]

I didn't say God isn't real.

[Gary]

I said your God in the Bible is a demon. There Allah is a demon, Jesus is a demon. Yahweh is a demon. Elohim is a demon.

[Cobra]

Ra is a demon. This is a prison planet. And the real prime creator allowed these demons to have power over this realm,

[Gary]

to test everyone with souls.

[Cobra]

Why?

[Gary]

Because God's can. The real God, the real prime creator, he's gonna throw you on the deep end and see if you sink or swim. That's how it works. The. The Lord that I worship, the creator. So, I mean, I didn't mention. Do you worship Jesus? I worship God, the creator of all. Who's your God is. Jesus is the human embodiment of the Lord. Okay, so why don't we say Christ is king, the prime creators, who I worship. Okay, that's me.

[Cobra]

Good.

[Gary]

That's it. Yeah, we good.

[Moderator Sean]

All right.

[Pedro]

If you learned anything from this episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to us. Thank you so much.

[Moderator Sean]

All right, gentlemen, we're back for more, and we're gonna do some internal critiques with everything that's been.

[Gary]

There's nothing wrong with me. What the.

[Cobra]

Absolutely perfect.

[Shaman Omar]

Absolutely perfect.

[Cobra]

Perfect.

[Moderator Sean]

All your gentlemen would love to come in and actually utilize everything together, piece it in one happy little bow tie and lay it on the table for you. So. All right, Shaman, if you'd like to

[Shaman Omar]

kick off, let's get these notes out of the way. Okay.

[Gary]

I'm gonna say something interesting this time.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, for sure.

[Gary]

I'm rooting for you, brother.

[Shaman Omar]

So you. You're absolutely. Your. Your moral foundations, right? You said you're Jewish, but you don't. You said Yahweh.

[Gary]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I was raised under Judaism.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

But I reject it.

[Shaman Omar]

So it played no role in your moral foundations. It was right and wrong. No.

[Gary]

If it did, I'd be probably joining the IDF myself.

[Shaman Omar]

You would. So you have an allegiance to Israel.

[Gary]

If I did. If I was, you know, into Judaism, I'd probably join the idf.

[Shaman Omar]

So you pick Israel over America or equal no.

[Gary]

Every country in the world.

[Cobra]

I wouldn't care about America.

[Gary]

Let me tell you how America First I am. Am. I don't give a if every country on this earth burns. I don't care as long as America stays number one. That's all good for me. That's how America First I am.

[Shaman Omar]

That's pretty good. You should be wearing an American flag hat. Cobra.

[Gary]

Oh, Cobra Commander.

[Shaman Omar]

You know that's true. So, but here's the thing though. Like earlier you said as far as Iran was concerned. Right. We might as well use the, the tactical nuke, you said.

[Gary]

Yeah, of course.

[Shaman Omar]

To end the war, to make it as fast as possible. 100% you said. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, 100%.

[Gary]

It worked, right? We've had nothing but an American dominating superpower since 1945. We dropped the nuke, so.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, you mean did it work in Japan? They were already going to surrender.

[Gary]

No, they weren't.

[Shaman Omar]

Yes, they were.

[Gary]

The Japanese people were not going to surrender.

[Shaman Omar]

The, the king, the, the emperor was,

[Gary]

Emperor was not going to surrender. He didn't even surrender after the first one. He had to drop the second one from the surrender.

[Shaman Omar]

I don't think they knew it was dropped until it dropped.

[Gary]

Well, I mean, regardless, they would not have surrendered without those mass casualties. Yeah, but because A Truman, the 33rd president, dropped the atomic bomb on 8, 5, 1945, which is a 33 day. Because he did that. He saved millions of American lives. Because if we went into Japan and we tried to take that by force, I would say about quarter million to 500, 000Americans probably would have died easily. Yeah, for sure.

[Shaman Omar]

But don't you respect that as an American? Don't we respect a powerful enemy?

[Gary]

Of course I respect, I, I, I definitely respect the Japanese. They're very honorable people. I mean, when you look at 2011 when they had the big tsunami, yeah. They literally had thousands of safes in the streets. These moral Japanese people took those safes and returned them to the police station. Could you imagine that happened in the hood?

[Cobra]

Yo, pookie, get the chainsaw. You know, come on, man. If that happened in any neighborhood in

[Gary]

America, they're cracking those safes. But in Japan, they're honorable people. So. Yeah, I respect the Japanese culture probably more than almost all cultures on the planet. But they lost, but they lost in 40.

[Shaman Omar]

But it's good to drop nukes on

[Gary]

them to get absolute victory. Yes. To save American lives. Yes. Because I'm American. I'm going to, always going to look at it from an American perspective.

[Shaman Omar]

And you said earlier, before we started recording, you said something about having a, you said you'd rather have a Jewish neighbor than a Muslim neighbor or Christian neighbor.

[Gary]

Yeah, 100.

[Shaman Omar]

Really?

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Shaman Omar]

Where's the gay capital of the world?

[Gary]

I would say San Francisco.

[Shaman Omar]

No, it's Tel Aviv.

[Gary]

Tel Aviv is a very, very degenerate place. And quite frankly, that's why I could never support Israel as a state because of all the homosexuality that goes around there. As a matter of fact, I mean, let me, let me keep it real, man. October 7th, when the Hamas went over the border, the first place they hit was a gay pride parade. That was the first place they hit. And you know, Rabbi, you know, I don't listen to much of a. What Rabbi told me, but Rabbi said there's no real gay Jews, there's only gay goyim. So, you know, the way I look at it, you know, Hamas didn't really kill any Jews.

[Shaman Omar]

But you, when you say Jew, you're talking about ethnic Jew. You're talking about someone who actually holds a covenant.

[Gary]

Blood, blood, blood.

[Shaman Omar]

But that, where is that in the Bible?

[Gary]

I don't give a damn what the Bible says.

[Cobra]

You take the two Bs out. The Bible, it spells Y.

[Gary]

Give A with the Bible.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, well then what the hell is a Jew without the Bible?

[Gary]

I believe a Jewish has, as a race, they have the highest IQ on the planet. That's what I believe.

[Shaman Omar]

What you're talking about. What you're talking about Ashkenazi, European Jews. So what made you say that those are the Jews?

[Gary]

I believe that people who are of higher intelligence tend to be Jewish.

[Shaman Omar]

But why is a European Polish guy the Jew and a person out of Iran?

[Gary]

I'm not saying if they have a high iq, they're all Jews.

[Shaman Omar]

So they're.

[Gary]

So Jews are superior, Intelligence wise.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, they are. To who? Everyone else.

[Gary]

Intelligence wise? Yes.

[Shaman Omar]

You're pretty Jewish for a guy.

[Gary]

I mean, listen, explain to me why 2% society controls 55 of the money. You can call them crooks, you can call them criminals, you can say whatever

[Cobra]

they want, but they're very smart people.

[Shaman Omar]

You want me to go into the historical components?

[Cobra]

Tell me how they were.

[Gary]

They're shut out of every other field. So they went to the banking system. I know all the stories.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, well, stories or history.

[Gary]

What I'm telling you is, is very simple.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

And they have high IQs, and they are what a lot of people would call peak white.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, so Jews, So A lot of people. Meaning like that 2% you're talking about.

[Gary]

Why does that 2% control 50 of the money?

[Shaman Omar]

Your, your boy Elon called them peak white, right?

[Gary]

Yeah, he did.

[Shaman Omar]

But that's just an inside joke amongst Jewish Europeans.

[Gary]

You could say what it is, an inside joke. I think every joke has a little truth in it, huh?

[Shaman Omar]

Maybe, maybe, but so if, if Israel has over 50 of its population gay and it's the gay capital.

[Gary]

I don't, I don't consider gay people Jewish, so I consider them goyim.

[Shaman Omar]

Where does that come from, you're saying?

[Gary]

My own theory.

[Shaman Omar]

So the second they become gay.

[Gary]

Yeah. They're not Jewish anymore.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay, well according to the Torah, the second you don't believe in God, well then that's the same place

[Cobra]

I wouldn't care about the blood.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Blood.

[Gary]

And as soon as they're a homosexual holding ankles, their blood's contaminated.

[Cobra]

So there you go, they're not Jewish anymore.

[Shaman Omar]

But according to that same place, that qualifies what a Jew is as far as like Israeli covenant, right? They're Second. You don't believe in God? No, no, no. Israeli. Like Israelites. The blood you're talking about is Israelites. Before it was Jew, Jewish. Two tribes.

[Gary]

You can, you can argue, you can argue about that stuff. You know, a lot of people say they came. The Kazarian empire came from the modern day Ukraine. You know, you can, you can make those arguments here.

[Shaman Omar]

I'm not making. Hold on. Even if that's true, that's not what I'm talking about. Saying that all Jews are Khazarians is

[Gary]

I. I would say the superior ones are.

[Shaman Omar]

Well then you're, you and Nick Fuentes are more alike than you think.

[Gary]

Well, Nick Fuentes is a 5,7 Mexican pretending to be white homosexual. I say we're nothing alike.

[Shaman Omar]

So you think. Well, I said. I was talking about clavicular earlier and you said that was a. Well, I mean, I mean they're very similar to me.

[Gary]

Nick Fuentes is a 27 year old man.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Claviclear is a 20 year old boy.

[Shaman Omar]

What were you doing?

[Gary]

Not what he's doing, that's for sure. Chasing ads, doing. Getting drunk, doing all stupid.

[Shaman Omar]

That's what you were doing?

[Gary]

Yeah. So what's he doing? What's he doing? Millions.

[Shaman Omar]

What?

[Gary]

And the same he no covidular. Has probably made about 2,3 million in his 3,4 month run, it's safe to say. I mean, no, I don't, I don't know too many people on social media who are Doing what he's doing at 20. Now, do I agree with looks maxing? No, I think real looks maxing, and this is just me. Yeah. Is making sure your woman looks good enough for the both of you. That, to me, is real looks maxing.

[Shaman Omar]

Okay.

[Gary]

Okay. That's the way I look at it. That's the way looks.

[Shaman Omar]

Maxing is gay.

[Gary]

I never said that.

[Shaman Omar]

I'm asking.

[Gary]

I think. I don't think men should.

[Shaman Omar]

Is it looks maxer gay or not?

[Gary]

I think if a man puts on makeup, it's suspect.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah. No, and if they do public modifications and so on.

[Gary]

Right. I mean, listen, when you have Peter Thiel out there, who's a homosexual man, funding these.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, we know, we know. We already know.

[Cobra]

And by the way, by the way,

[Gary]

Peter Thiel, I mean, imagine this guy's worth like, what, 30, 31 billion or something like that. He spent 2 million a month propping up looks maxing. Now.

[Cobra]

Well, I wonder why.

[Gary]

Dude, wait, wait, wait, wait. Now you have all of this influence that he bought for 2 million a month. He probably spent $10 million. And he got billions of dollars worth of free advertising from Kick, from Eddie, from Clav and all the people who are accolades. So this homosexual man.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Spent $10 million and got billions worth of advertising, and now he's trying to turn the younger generation into a whole bunch of fruitcakes. Yeah, that's the problem.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah.

[Moderator Sean]

Yeah.

[Cobra]

And if.

[Shaman Omar]

And if we had his money, I'm assuming that we're similar on this, we would be doing the same thing with. With women, not gay guys. We. He's. He's a gay guy, dude. What do you expect him to do?

[Gary]

I mean, it is what it is. But if I had.

[Shaman Omar]

He spent $15 million for J.D. vance. I mean, he's obviously his bottom two.

[Gary]

Listen, your boy. I never said J.D. vance is my boy.

[Shaman Omar]

Trump.

[Gary]

Trump is definitely my boy.

[Shaman Omar]

And J.D. vance is his underling.

[Gary]

I mean, you know, that was politics. He picked his vice president based off politics. That wasn't his choice.

[Shaman Omar]

So. Okay, so you keep referring to Muslims and Christians and Jews, Right? You keep saying, like, Muslims this and the Christians that. Right. Obviously, I think that's retarded if you think that a human created the entire universe.

[Gary]

I never said that.

[Shaman Omar]

No, I'm saying it.

[Gary]

Okay, but.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, I mean, you insinuated that, right. You said about the guy and so on. My question is, is that if you're saying that your morality doesn't come from Judaism, right. And you're having this critique against, like, the Muslims Yeah. And the Christians, Are you familiar with these religions at all? Are you just saying?

[Gary]

No, I've. I've went through their histories. I mean, you have. I'm not theologist, but I went through their history.

[Shaman Omar]

How many. How many mitzvot are there in Judaism?

[Gary]

Thirteen, I'm assuming.

[Shaman Omar]

No, 613.

[Gary]

Okay, whatever. Right now.

[Shaman Omar]

So if you take out all of the. If you take out there. I'm just trying to paint a picture of them. They're actually quite identical. That's why you and your Muslim wife got along so well, because the foundation is the same. The difference is, is that me and

[Gary]

my Muslim wife got along because she was a virgin. I wanted a virgin because I never wanted to marry an American. You know why?

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Because I want healthy kids. And by the way, dear parents, dear men of America, if your wife isn't a virgin, apologize to your kids for their mother being a. Oh, my God.

[Shaman Omar]

So, okay, maybe you should start a second business where you can find out where all these virgins are and then, you know.

[Gary]

Muslim country.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

You know why? Because they had consequences there.

[Justin Admiral]

If you.

[Gary]

Or around you can get stones.

[Shaman Omar]

That's what I'm trying to allude to. The consequences that you're talking about in critiquing Islam. It comes from the Torah. That's all Torah law.

[Gary]

I mean, whatever, whatever.

[Shaman Omar]

It's all Jewish law.

[Gary]

Isn't Jesus a Jewish.

[Shaman Omar]

You can ask our friend.

[Gary]

No, I will, I will. We'll start with that one in a second. Isn't Jesus a Jew? I mean, from what I understand.

[Leo]

Sure.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

So they all come from the Jewish faith then. Yeah, yeah. But so how about this? How about this? Let me make this clear.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah.

[Gary]

So there's no misunderstandings. All the Abrahamic religions. Yeah, every single one.

[Shaman Omar]

No, I got that.

[Justin Admiral]

Okay.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah. I'm the only person here, I think, that caught no negative feelings when you said that, though the rest of the panel, I can feel it. I don't have a subscription to any of them either.

[Gary]

Okay, what do you believe in?

[Shaman Omar]

I believe in the supreme Creator.

[Gary]

Okay, you believe in the prime creator?

[Shaman Omar]

Well, prime means material.

[Justin Admiral]

I.

[Shaman Omar]

Beyond that because you could say one, the only one. Now, prime is as soon as something goes into material material, it becomes prime. Right. So I'm talking about beyond that. In the beginning, it was no thing except the one thing. Right. And beyond the material. So I'm saying the highest understanding of God. I believe in that everything.

[Gary]

Is Jesus your Lord and savior?

[Shaman Omar]

No. Bro, what about what I said?

[Gary]

No, no, of course not.

[Shaman Omar]

I don't have a human savior. If I was going to believe in the word Satan means adversary, the quickest way to trick everyone is to sit back, shut the up, and think that someone's coming to save you. It's a genius.

[Gary]

Yeah, that would, that would. I would definitely. Yeah, you definitely. You know, back in the Soviet Union, when Vladimir. I'm sorry, when Joseph Stalin was running things, he used to have a. A poet that go from city to city. And this poet would go into the bars and start talking mad about Stalin. And then eventually some of those drunk guys in there who had all this resentment for style and be like, yeah, you're right. Down with Stalin. Well, the next day, the poet goes to the next city, but all the people who are against style and gets rounded up and sent to the Gulag. So I understand that completely. Like, what was it, Q or what was that Q movement, where it's like, oh, don't worry, guys.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, trust the plan.

[Cobra]

Trust the.

[Shaman Omar]

Trust the plan.

[Cobra]

Don't do anything. Yeah, be beta male, 5D chat. Just trust the plague.

[Gary]

You know, the same thing happened during the Soviet Union's revolution. And when the, when the Bolsheviks were fighting the whites, they always said, the people for the capitals, don't worry. Yeah, A secret government's coming. They will defeat the Bolsheviks. That is done to keep people.

[Cobra]

I'm not going to name names.

[Shaman Omar]

There are people in this room right now on the panel you spoke to today that are still trusting 5D chess. Trump. I'm not going to point.

[Cobra]

You want to debate them?

[Shaman Omar]

You know what I mean? All right, man. So here's the thing, though. I think that, look, at the end of the day, I'm just curious because you have lots of, like, opinions and things, and I don't disagree with a lot of the stuff you said I was expecting to have, and it's full blown.

[Gary]

So you're probably more intelligent than I thought then.

[Shaman Omar]

Well, then that's your problem for judging things wrong. I actually didn't check my chart before you talked.

[Gary]

I don't need to check your chart. I already have your vibration off your sound of your voice. But it's all good.

[Shaman Omar]

What's. Well, look, at the end of the day, AI, you're absolutely right. The repeal the. The 13th amendment or the 19th?

[Cobra]

No, both.

[Shaman Omar]

Because you lean on the 13 too. You said let's remove that a little bit too. I. I think that I don't.

[Gary]

Democracy.

[Shaman Omar]

That's not a solution. Democracy, fascism for you, 100%. You'd rather live next to Jews than Muslims or Christians. Yeah, but in the. In the reality of the world, if you look at the entire.

[Gary]

Actually, I actually give all the compliments. I actually do live around nothing but Jews. I live in a place called Sunny Isles.

[Cobra]

I live by the two. Guess what? No crime. I don't have to worry about people trying to rob me and like that. So, yes, I might talk about Israel, but I have no issues.

[Shaman Omar]

I live in Sunny Isles for years.

[Gary]

Best place in the nation.

[Shaman Omar]

Best play. Best. I like living around Jews also.

[Gary]

Okay, good.

[Shaman Omar]

Yeah, yeah. Shabbat shalom.

[Gary]

Shabbat shalom.

[Moderator Sean]

Thank you, gentlemen.

[Gary]

All right, man, let's get some fireworks in here.

[Pedro]

Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.

[Gary]

All right, round two. Hopefully you'll be a little bit more interesting this time. Go ahead, brother.

[Andrew Wilson]

So I'm gonna build off a little bit of what you shaman was getting at it.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Andrew Wilson]

Where he was saying, your morality. See, you don't realize it, but it's actually shaped on the very thing you're saying that you hate so much. It comes from Christendom and Western Western society that you say, oh, I didn't. I didn't do this for the 20 only fans, girls, because of my morality.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Andrew Wilson]

Where do you think that that comes from if not from the thing that you mentioned that's so important? Your environment?

[Gary]

Well, I mean, there's plenty of people are raised in the same environment as me and they're doing degenerate. I'm not sure. So how do you explain that? But maybe. Maybe I had good parents. Maybe my parents instilled good values in me. And guess what? My dad was not Christian.

[Andrew Wilson]

But he was Jewish.

[Gary]

Yes, he was.

[Andrew Wilson]

Right, so. So you took these Abrahamic morals and more than that, you even talk about a first mover, which is. I talk about this all the time on Sarah's channel and other channels. This is a primarily Christian. This came from Thomas Aquinas. He has a whole, you know, the. The unmoved mover, the first mover. This is a Christian talking point that you're. You use. You talk about demons, you talk about first movers, you talk about morality. All things that you get from Christianity.

[Gary]

So.

[Andrew Wilson]

So discard the Christianity.

[Cobra]

What.

[Gary]

What you're telling me. What you're telling me is I need to learn to read the Bible to know that stealing's wrong. I need to read the Quran to know I shouldn't cheat on my wife.

[Cobra]

I need to read. I don't. I reject all those books. And guess what? I have.

[Gary]

No, no, no.

[Cobra]

Maybe that's the word. Maybe that's the cope.

[Gary]

You need to believe in that.

[Cobra]

I don't need to cope with the Bible to know what the moral thing is to do. You might. I don't. We're not the same.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, you just don't understand how history works. Prior to Christianity, prior to charity, prior to the nuns that started the first hospitals, nobody cared about the poor people lying in the street. This was a uniquely.

[Gary]

No one cares about you.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's correct. Charity was a Christian value. That started. It's why we have hospitals today. The, the Catholic nuns started that. Without that, you wouldn't. This wouldn't even be a thought to you.

[Gary]

When they had. When they had wars. Since they had wars, they've had hospitals. It wasn't a Christian nuns, bro. Since they had wars, they had hospitals.

[Cobra]

Since the Aztecs were trying to hijack their neighbors, they didn't have Christianity, they had doctors and they had witch doctors.

[Gary]

So don't tell me this nonsense that you need to be a theologist to believe that, oh, we have to help the poor. No, that's not how this.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm telling you where modern day ideas.

[Gary]

Maybe yours, maybe yours.

[Andrew Wilson]

Yours too. You just don't know it. You say you're a student of history, but you don't even see where your information comes from. Where these. So where does your morality come from? What is it grounded in if it's

[Gary]

not grounded in the logic and common sense?

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay, so I saw this also on your, on your debate with Andrew Wilson. Do you, do you know yet what, what the three laws of logic are?

[Gary]

I don't believe in any crap that you're gonna tell me.

[Andrew Wilson]

So your morality is based on logic and you don't know the laws of logic.

[Gary]

I don't actually believe that Andrew Wilson is an authority about anything except knowing how to wife up. Okay, you don't know the laws of logic.

[Cobra]

Okay, Your whole.

[Andrew Wilson]

I asked you what you base it on. You said the laws of logic, which you don't know.

[Cobra]

I know, I know, I know it's inherently wrong to kill people. I don't need your book to tell me it's wrong to kill people.

[Andrew Wilson]

What is wrong with you if you understood the laws of logic, for example.

[Cobra]

Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Tell me the loss of logic.

[Gary]

Go ahead.

[Andrew Wilson]

Identity, non contradiction excluded middle. I'm gonna show you. Because when you make dumb claims like, oh, show me an example. How could it be possible that if you said it 20 times. What do you say about the Virginia Virgin Mary? This is like your big point. If you understood how logic work, you work.

[Cobra]

Tell me, what is logical about a virgin having a baby?

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm gonna tell you how it works. Okay? Do virgin births exist? Is that a thing? Yes or no?

[Cobra]

No.

[Andrew Wilson]

People are. People do not conceive babies without having sex today.

[Cobra]

If they.

[Gary]

If they.

[Andrew Wilson]

Is it true or not?

[Cobra]

This is excluded if they're test tube babies.

[Andrew Wilson]

True or not.

[Cobra]

Test tube babies. That technology didn't exist back then.

[Andrew Wilson]

Moved that goal post, sir.

[Cobra]

I moved the goal post because the technology didn't exist back then.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm gonna get there.

[Cobra]

This is how logic. People can fly now because we have planes.

[Andrew Wilson]

It's either true or not true.

[Cobra]

It's not true.

[Andrew Wilson]

Is it true that people, and very. Right now, at this very time in our. On our planet, have babies without having sex? True or false?

[Gary]

When the Bible is written, that was not true.

[Andrew Wilson]

That question.

[Cobra]

We have to. We have to put it into perspective. When the Bible was written, that was not true.

[Moderator Sean]

Hold on, let me interrupt for just a moment. What Andrew is running you down on right now is a line of logic. So if you answer questions in a certain particular line, it will eventually lead

[Gary]

to the logic that's not actually true. Because what is logical right now was not logical back then.

[Andrew Wilson]

We're gonna get there. I'm gonna show you.

[Moderator Sean]

Run the drill with them.

[Andrew Wilson]

Is it possible to have a baby while being a virgin? Is that possible?

[Shaman Omar]

Not.

[Gary]

Not when the Bible is written. No.

[Andrew Wilson]

Today, is it possible?

[Gary]

I'm telling you, when the Bible is ready. No, it is.

[Andrew Wilson]

People do it all the time, ivf. They don't have to have a. They don't have to have sexual intercourse in order to have a baby.

[Gary]

So we've established that technology didn't exist back then, the Bible school.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's not my claim. My claim is we have now established that a virgin birth is possible.

[Gary]

Since what year?

[Andrew Wilson]

It doesn't matter.

[Gary]

Oh, yes, it does.

[Andrew Wilson]

Possible.

[Gary]

Yes, it does, because I'm telling you what is real. And that wasn't real back then. What year did they start? Artificial.

[Andrew Wilson]

But they could have had technology that we didn't know about.

[Gary]

They're living in mud huts, bro.

[Cobra]

What technology are you talking about now? What I'm saying, it's not a what if they're living in mud?

[Andrew Wilson]

It's true or it's false. It's true that people can have virgin births.

[Rollo Tomassi]

It's True.

[Andrew Wilson]

It's objectively a true story.

[Gary]

It was not true.

[Andrew Wilson]

We're going to talk then. The next line of logic would be what you're talking about. What are the facts, factors that go into it. But it destroys your entire argument that virgin birth is not possible when it's objectively true.

[Cobra]

When was the Bible written, Sir? Is. When was the Bible written, sir? No, we're not moving the goalpost. I am asking you. When the Bible is written.

[Andrew Wilson]

Are you asking when the virgin birth.

[Cobra]

When was the Bible written?

[Andrew Wilson]

It was written about 2000 years ago.

[Cobra]

Did they have the technology 2000 years ago to have births like that? Yes or no? Yes or no? Yes or no?

[Andrew Wilson]

You couldn't possibly know.

[Cobra]

So you're telling me what about ISM now?

[Andrew Wilson]

No, I'm saying no.

[Cobra]

No. Yeah, I'm telling you that technology did not exist. I can say that 100% that technology did not exist.

[Andrew Wilson]

Are you there, sir?

[Gary]

I didn't have to be.

[Andrew Wilson]

People couldn't inseminate people by taking semen, injecting it. They couldn't do that back then. It's never happened. It's not possible, it's not logical. Back then, back then, someone could, you

[Cobra]

know, you're back then. No, that's the problem.

[Andrew Wilson]

And that's why we need to told you a year and a half ago. You should have learned the laws of logic then. But the fact that you didn't shows that you don't actually care or have

[Cobra]

a. I don't care what poor people think. I don't care what you think. You're over here. You believe in that sandman in the sky. You have all your. I believe in the first stole, the

[Andrew Wilson]

first mover that you stole from Thomas Aquinas. And you come up here and tout as your like, original idea that you stole from Christian.

[Cobra]

What did that steal?

[Andrew Wilson]

The first mover, the unmoved mover is an, is a, is a Thomas Aquinus doctor of the church.

[Cobra]

Okay, we're not, we're not theologist here.

[Gary]

Go ahead.

[Andrew Wilson]

Yeah, and see, that's what I'm saying. You don't even know where it comes from.

[Cobra]

I don't give a. About theology.

[Andrew Wilson]

Important though, because when you, when you make, when you say things are like trash and unusable and then you cite them, it makes you look unreliable. Does that make sense to you?

[Cobra]

When you do, when you cite logic

[Andrew Wilson]

and you don't know logic, why should we believe anything else you say?

[Gary]

Okay, let me make this abundantly clear, okay? Artificial insemination is a new Technology that's been around for maybe what, 20, 30, 40 years or something like that.

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Gary]

When the Bible was written, that was not possible. So it's not logical to think like that because that technology didn't exist. Case closed.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, that's not how logic works.

[Cobra]

Maybe not in your.

[Gary]

Maybe not in your world mind.

[Cobra]

Maybe not in your world.

[Andrew Wilson]

Aristotle battle, like in any world. Yes, excluded that. That's where logic comes from. That's where these.

[Cobra]

A guy inventing logic. Really? Maybe that's where your ass is reading that goddamn Bible because you can't think for your self.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, actually, what you should take out of that is if. If these things haven't been refuted in 3, 000 years or 2500 years, maybe there's some validity to them and I should learn them before I come up here and make claims that I don't even know what I'm talking about.

[Cobra]

I'm saying they believe. They believe in a, say, a magic

[Gary]

man in the sky who you pray to and say.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's what I mean.

[Cobra]

You're wrong. No, you're wrong.

[Gary]

No, it's all nonsense.

[Andrew Wilson]

What you're saying is Catholic heresy the cat. Catholics do not believe in a man in the sky.

[Justin Admiral]

That's.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's a heretical statement. God to Catholics is not a being.

[Gary]

So prove Jesus Christ exists. Prove he existed.

[Andrew Wilson]

Prove Jesus. Well, we have historical documentation that we can use. How else would you like me to prove it? Would you like me to show you?

[Gary]

You can't.

[Andrew Wilson]

This is how you prove anything.

[Cobra]

You can't.

[Gary]

You can't. You can't prove anything.

[Andrew Wilson]

Prove Alexander the Great existed.

[Gary]

I can prove that like, you know, a person like Winston Churchill existed. I can prove stuff like that because there's actual videos. There's that.

[Cobra]

Right.

[Andrew Wilson]

But what about before that? We can't prove anybody.

[Gary]

No, you really can't. Oh, that could be a lie.

[Andrew Wilson]

It could be, but we can look

[Cobra]

at it could be exactly.

[Andrew Wilson]

We have. It's.

[Cobra]

Oh, wow. Like all those sources couldn't lie to you.

[Rollo Tomassi]

No.

[Cobra]

Like.

[Gary]

No, no, no, they want to lie. People don't lie. They always tell the truth.

[Andrew Wilson]

No, come on. You're not understanding what I'm saying.

[Cobra]

I don't want to understand what you're saying.

[Andrew Wilson]

Somebody already tried to explain this to you a year and a half ago. You completely dismissed it. It would have saved you right now.

[Cobra]

I don't, I don't. I don't listen to Christian frauds who tell me. No, no, no, no.

[Gary]

I don't listen to Christian frauds who tell me you have to live the way of the Bible and then they waif up a, a woman who's been ran through.

[Andrew Wilson]

I don't. Morality is like the lowest level of Christianity. If you actually.

[Cobra]

Oh, so that's who you're, that's who you're bringing up. You're bringing up that guy up morality. You brought his name up. I'm telling you about the guy.

[Andrew Wilson]

God in Christianity did not come to save, to, to change bad men. He came to make dead men live. Like, if you understand correct, he did not come to make bad men.

[Gary]

How do you make dead men live?

[Andrew Wilson]

Come to me. How do you make men good as your.

[Cobra]

How do you make dead men live?

[Andrew Wilson]

By giving the them the understanding of this knowledge. That's what this is really about. It's not about a man in the sky that. See, you're misunderstanding.

[Cobra]

No, no, no, no. I want to know how you make

[Gary]

a dead man live. Go ahead. How do you resurrect people? Tell me.

[Andrew Wilson]

Well, see, this is a multi layered statement. I'm telling. You're saying that God, you don't. You have to do one thing at a time. You have to let me respond to one thing at a time because you jump around. You said that you don't listen to Christian men that go. That have wives at home, don't follow their own.

[Gary]

No, no.

[Andrew Wilson]

Ran through first of all with other appeal to hypocrisy. It's also a logical fallacy. If again, if you knew anything about logic, like Sarah brings us up all the time, I could smoke a hundred cigarettes right here and still tell you it's bad to smoke cigarettes, and I would still be right. So it doesn't matter is that I could smoke a hundred cigarettes and I could sit here with the cigarette in my mouth and tell you not to smoke, and I would still be right.

[Gary]

I would tell you not to put a lot of things in your mouth,

[Andrew Wilson]

but I would still be objectively right. The name would be right.

[Gary]

I got, I got you.

[Cobra]

I got you.

[Gary]

I got you. See, when you, when you talk to guys like this man.

[Andrew Wilson]

Like what?

[Gary]

No, no, no. It's not logical. When you talk to guys like this. They just want to paint a certain narrative that everything has to be this way. It's not. It's not. Okay, your Christianity, you can't prove Jesus ever existed. I will give you that. I can't prove he didn't exist, but you can't prove he did exist. And your whole, and your whole philosophy as a Christian is Christ is king. And that's your savior. And he died for your. I get you. I get you. You can't prove any of it. I can prove the richest men in the world are born on the 28th. I can prove the best looking women in the world are born on the 28th. I can prove the best athletes are born on the 11th or the 1st. You can't prove any of your.

[Andrew Wilson]

I can't prove it works and it builds the best societies. If you take Christendom that turned into Western civilization.

[Gary]

Every civilization Every ONI fans has a Christian cross on. And this guy wants me to believe in Christ.

[Andrew Wilson]

Do you know where the term Western civilization comes from?

[Pedro]

Sir?

[Cobra]

Go ahead.

[Gary]

Educate us. Sir.

[Andrew Wilson]

I'm asking if you know. It's from when the church was divided between the Byzantine Empire and the and the Roman Catholics. Western civilization refers to the term that was Christendom. So we took this society that's built on these pillars of morality that you still use that I'm telling you.

[Pedro]

I don't.

[Gary]

I don't.

[Andrew Wilson]

Yes you do. So where does your morality come from?

[Gary]

Common sense.

[Andrew Wilson]

Common sense. Where do you get that common sense? That's my point.

[Cobra]

Where do I get the common sense?

[Gary]

I'll tell you where I get it from having a superior intellect than you.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's where I get superior. You don't even know where your own information comes from. Sir. That's what. How could it possibly be superior? You say that you're basically.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Cobra]

Let me ask you something.

[Gary]

Let me.

[Justin Admiral]

Let me.

[Cobra]

Let me. Let me.

[Justin Admiral]

Let me.

[Cobra]

Let me.

[Andrew Wilson]

Let me. Let me ask every one of them.

[Gary]

Your Christianity.

[Andrew Wilson]

That's where you are.

[Cobra]

You understand? You understand From I'm getting my morality. I'll piss on your Bible. I have nothing from the Bible. I don't need your Bible to tell me it's wrong to kill people. I don't need your Bible to tell me. No I don't.

[Andrew Wilson]

Why is it wrong to kill people? Then why is it wrong?

[Gary]

Because you don't have a right to hurt people who haven't done anything.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay. But what if they're trying to hurt you?

[Gary]

Then you can kill them.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay. So where is the line?

[Gary]

Self defense.

[Andrew Wilson]

But who decides what that is?

[Cobra]

If someone's trying to hurt you. Common sense is you try to stop them.

[Andrew Wilson]

But people.

[Cobra]

This isn't. This isn't reality.

[Andrew Wilson]

Different interpretations of what trying to hurt you means.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Andrew Wilson]

Right. Don't they?

[Gary]

Okay. So you're just giving it. So. So if someone breaks into your house and tries to hurt you you can Kill them. Very simple. But because I don't like somebody doesn't give me the right to kill that person. It's very simple.

[Andrew Wilson]

Happening right now. Did, did, did Austin Metcalfe try to hurt Carmelo Anthony?

[Gary]

Yes.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay, so Carmelo Anthony was justified in killing him.

[Gary]

That's what you're saying. You can say it's manslaughter. You can, you can make that. If you're going to make a legal term of it.

[Andrew Wilson]

You just said when somebody tries to hurt you.

[Gary]

Yes, you.

[Andrew Wilson]

So you're saying that Carmelo Anthony was self defense.

[Gary]

The difference is Carmelo Anthony. The difference is Carmelo Anthony was actually trying to hurt the, the man. But say I just smack you, does that give you your right to kill me?

[Andrew Wilson]

That's what I'm asking you.

[Gary]

No. So, so I, I would say, I would say the amount of force.

[Justin Admiral]

Right.

[Gary]

And who decides? Our legal system, that's who decides not. And we have a separation. We have a separation between church and state.

[Andrew Wilson]

The court understands something you don't. What does it say on the courtroom wall in every.

[Gary]

Donald Trump didn't even put his hand on the Bible when he took states.

[Andrew Wilson]

You cited a court system that on its very wall has the arbiter of morality in God.

[Cobra]

I see. So they have the same thing in Islam. They have the same thing in Islam. They have the same thing. They have the same thing in everything.

[Gary]

But guess what? Me as a numerologist, I have the same thing without any of your Christian dogma.

[Andrew Wilson]

You don't. It's just your own preference and I could show it to you. You may. You even said the a few minutes ago. You said I don't give a what happens. Every other country can burn as long as.

[Gary]

Yeah, 100.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay, so there's no moral, there's no moral arbiter.

[Pedro]

What do you mean?

[Andrew Wilson]

Whatever you want.

[Gary]

No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Wilson]

Everyone can burn in another country but this country.

[Gary]

No, no, no, no. What, what I basically said is I am America first. Above Christian, above Judaism, above your. Whatever you want to put out there. I am America first to the point where I'm willing to, to burn the rest of the world to make sure America stays number one.

[Andrew Wilson]

Right.

[Gary]

That doesn't mean that I think I have a right to kill people inside of America. But outside of America, I consider them second class citizens. You can do whatever the fuck you want to them.

[Andrew Wilson]

Right. So don't you see how there's no, there's no moral standard.

[Cobra]

It is a moral standard. I'm America first. Very simple.

[Moderator Sean]

This our Last three minutes, gentlemen. So final. Find your final points?

[Cobra]

Yeah.

[Andrew Wilson]

You can almost even see it when you see. As a Christian, I look at something like. You brought up the.

[Cobra]

Have you.

[Gary]

Have you ever been married?

[Justin Admiral]

I have.

[Gary]

Are you divorced?

[Andrew Wilson]

I am, sir.

[Gary]

I see. So how that Christianity work out for you?

[Andrew Wilson]

Again, appeal to hypocrisy.

[Cobra]

You are a Christian. You are a Christian. You're divorced. Andrew Wilson is a Christian. He's been divorced. Our man over here was a Christian. He's been divorced. The fucking numerologist has stayed married. Who has the superior system? Me.

[Andrew Wilson]

You stole it from the Christians.

[Gary]

I didn't steal from you.

[Andrew Wilson]

You did.

[Cobra]

Well, you. You admitted you. If I. If I. If I. If I stole it. If I stole. If I stole. If I stole it from the Christians, I'd be divorced just like your ass.

[Andrew Wilson]

But your own claim is you got your wife because she was Muslim, because

[Gary]

they actually hurt people because they have a moral system. No, they hurt people if they're degenerate.

[Andrew Wilson]

You don't see what I'm saying.

[Gary]

They hurt people who are degenerates.

[Andrew Wilson]

You borrow the moral systems when it's convenient for you, and then you shit on them when it's not.

[Gary]

Did I not say. Did I not say in the very begin that no matter what, I will take the best of every single thing, whether it be Islam, Christianity. I took the best of all of them. So there might be some truths in Christianity, there might be some. True. It might be. There might be some troops in Islam, there might be some truths in Judaism, but guess what? My system, numerology, supersedes all of it. Because guess what, pimp?

[Cobra]

You were praying to God.

[Gary]

I'm not praying to anyone. I'm still married. You're divorced.

[Cobra]

You have any kids?

[Andrew Wilson]

I do.

[Cobra]

How's that? How's that? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about kids.

[Gary]

Stop.

[Moderator Sean]

I will fix this.

[Cobra]

I'm not talking about.

[Moderator Sean]

Just simply use a hypothetical, please.

[Gary]

All I'm saying is if you're divorced and now the kids are split up between two parents, you failed as a parent. That simple. Nothing to do with kids. And by the way, if you failed as a. As a parent and you're this. This big Christian guy, Christianity failed you. Jesus Christ failed you.

[Andrew Wilson]

The point of. You don't even understand. The point of.

[Cobra]

The point is you're divorced. The point is you're divorced.

[Andrew Wilson]

Do it right.

[Cobra]

You're divorced. You failed. You have. You failed.

[Andrew Wilson]

He fails is the point.

[Gary]

Why didn't I fail?

[Andrew Wilson]

Everybody fails. The point of Christianity. So you're literally sitting here telling me

[Gary]

that something that my system is better than yours.

[Andrew Wilson]

It isn't because you failed.

[Cobra]

I haven't. At what?

[Gary]

At marriage.

[Andrew Wilson]

You don't even understand. You have own moral arbiter. You're over here defending dropping nuclear bombs, dude. Literally.

[Cobra]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Keep America on top 100.

[Andrew Wilson]

Okay, so as a Christian, I'm gonna say that the first nuclear bomb was dropped on a church that people were praying at. Yeah, America's important to me, but not that important.

[Cobra]

That was objectively wrong.

[Justin Admiral]

That was objective.

[Cobra]

You're morally wrong. You're a Christian first. Right? You're a Christian before America, right?

[Andrew Wilson]

Let me explain something to you. Somebody said it here about the atomic bomb. The war was over. Hitler was dead. Japan was done. They dropped that atomic bomb on them because they wanted to test the weapons.

[Cobra]

That was wrong.

[Andrew Wilson]

And they waited two days and dropped another one. They did not need to do that. And they killed hundreds of thousands of people. Many of them

[Cobra]

surrender.

[Gary]

The Japanese themselves said they wouldn't surrender.

[Cobra]

Okay?

[Andrew Wilson]

Hitler was dead. The war was over, bro. You didn't have to nuke them. They nuked them because they were wanted to. And you're defending it. You're defending mass murder and nuclear bombs while telling me I'm immoral and failed.

[Cobra]

You have. You have. I believe in American exceptionalism. I believe in American excellence. And yes, I will do whatever is needed to be done to keep America on top. And that means drop another nuke. So be it.

[Andrew Wilson]

But when it comes down innocent people to keep America on top.

[Gary]

It is what it is.

[Cobra]

It is what it is to say. But let me. Let me tell you this. Let me.

[Gary]

Let me tell. Let me tell you this. At least my nuclear family is together. Okay. Okay.

[Andrew Wilson]

But what does that have to do with the.

[Cobra]

Because again, you.

[Moderator Sean]

You.

[Andrew Wilson]

You use the appeal to hypocrisy over and over and over. Even though I explained to you that

[Cobra]

Christian values, your Christian values failed you, your Christian values failed you.

[Andrew Wilson]

Civilization.

[Cobra]

You are divorced.

[Andrew Wilson]

Didn't fail you.

[Cobra]

You live in your divorce.

[Andrew Wilson]

Civilization. Why don't you live somewhere else?

[Gary]

Because I can make the most money here. I can make the most money here.

[Moderator Sean]

Make your final statement to Gary and then we will move it on. This is great.

[Andrew Wilson]

Yeah. Even when I tried to explain that appeal to hypocrisy does not win you the debate. It's a logical fallacy. He continues to do it because it's all that he has. You can't look at the statistical fact that Christendom Western civilization is the Greatest society that we've ever had. Everywhere in the world, people want to live in either Europe, America or Australia. What do all these things happen?

[Cobra]

Because we have money here, not because of Christianism.

[Andrew Wilson]

You have to go back because of

[Cobra]

capitalism, not because of Christians. Right? What the is flourish.

[Andrew Wilson]

You don't even understand.

[Gary]

It was called Christian.

[Cobra]

Why.

[Gary]

Why did it affect it?

[Cobra]

Why did it first? Because a whole bunch of foundation. Because a whole bunch of white people

[Gary]

came over here and decided, you know what we're gonna say, start capitalism and everything else. That's why it happened.

[Andrew Wilson]

Why did they come over here again?

[Moderator Sean]

Let's. Let's end it there. Let me say one more thing, though, Andrew. Your final statement was interrupted. If you wanted to finish any little piece of it.

[Gary]

All right, My, my final statement is very clear. Okay? This man will talk about Christianity, but when it comes to one of the bedrocks of Christianity, marriage, He's divorced. A lot of people in his own faith was call him a heretic for that. So, you know, at that end of the day, I'm a non believer, but you're a heretic.

[Andrew Wilson]

Nobody says heretic for that. But thank you, sir.

[Pedro]

Thanks for watching all the way to the end. Guys, please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, yeah. So I mentioned earlier, I'm a rancher, and one of the things I do is I own a leather company and we collect a lot of snakes. And I think last year we like killed 3,000 rattlesnakes. So what I've seen right now I'm expert in, and it's snake oil salesman. You're a snake oil salesman. What you're doing is something called punching a plastic bag. You're taking all the best things, all these things, but you're not holding any accountability on any of these issues. Right. Whenever you talk about this stuff and you talk about history, you're just factually wrong on anything historical that you don't like on a lot of these things and the patterns. And then what you go and do is you go and look and you go, oh, well, how do we know that even really happened? I don't believe in the science. I don't see. I don't even see it on television.

[Cobra]

So you can prove.

[Gary]

You can prove Jesus Christ existed?

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, yeah, there's. But he's the most documented person in history. We can look at Pontius Pilot. We know Pontius Pilot existed.

[Gary]

How do we know he didn't lie?

[Justin Admiral]

Oh, how do we know he didn't lie.

[Gary]

How?

[Justin Admiral]

Because Pontius Pilot wouldn't have the motivation to lie.

[Gary]

Oh, you know him, you know. Oh, you know what his motivation was?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah.

[Gary]

I mean, that's a bunch of crap. You can't prove anything. You can't prove anything. Yeah, bro. I mean, I can't prove anything. You can't prove he existed.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, you can't prove anything.

[Cobra]

Nothing you prove could.

[Gary]

Would stand up in the court of law.

[Justin Admiral]

Sure.

[Gary]

Absolutely nothing.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, maybe, but you can't prove anything. Right?

[Cobra]

I said I can't prove he didn't exist. But you can't prove he did exist. And your whole goddamn argument is he existed. Prove it.

[Justin Admiral]

I don't care about the Jesus thing that much.

[Cobra]

Oh, now you don't care? The goalpost.

[Justin Admiral]

I'm talking about your whole philosophy. You can't move. The gentleman over here, I forgot his name, but he brought up a good point. All this stuff, you could just be on a heater. Yeah, I've done a lot of sports betting. I think I've made 100k since, I don't know, like, 2008. Not as much as you. You've done better than me. Congrats. But when I'm sitting here talking about this kind of thing, I'm looking at it, I'm going, oh, okay. So numerology works, right? Well, you mentioned the Alphabet. Okay, well, that's cool. There's, what, 26 letters? Well, what if the Spanish Alphabet. Well, they have inyes and they have double Ls. Okay, well, that adds extra letters. Well, then what about before, when you had English is accepted.

[Gary]

What is the universal language?

[Justin Admiral]

Math, I guess.

[Gary]

What is the universal language besides math?

[Justin Admiral]

You tell me.

[Gary]

English.

[Justin Admiral]

That would be the lingua franca, first of all, not the universal language.

[Gary]

When you go to Brazil, when you go to Russia, when you go to China, they don't. They have signs in English there.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah.

[Cobra]

Why is that?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, why is that? Why is it. Because it's the lingua franca. It's the business word. Why is it called lingua franca? Do you know?

[Gary]

So. So

[Justin Admiral]

you just brought this up.

[Gary]

Let me finish my point.

[Justin Admiral]

It used to be the world universal language. That's why it's called with fl.

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Justin Admiral]

Things change.

[Gary]

Here's what it comes down to. Here's what it comes down to. This is a matrix. This is a virtual reality. This is why numerology and astrology works. So when English became the dominant language, that is exactly when it, the matrix, started representing that as the dominant language. That's how the system works. If all of us in this room and billions of other people believe in. It's July 7th. That's what the Matrix is going to get.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, the garden gnomes or the gin, whenever they're telling you this made a lot of sense, but I'm a single believer in like actual facts in the matter. Right.

[Gary]

Yeah, you believe Jesus Christ, but yeah, you can't prove anything. You can't prove anything. Yeah, that's facts there, right?

[Justin Admiral]

Hold on, hold on. You talked about the virgin thing. You brought this up with me as well. Listen, we actually do have evidence of virgin birth from that time period. And it's not artificial.

[Gary]

All right, where's the evidence?

[Justin Admiral]

I'll give you the evidence right now. Humans, right, are genetically what, what, like 90, something like percent the same genetics as like flies, snakes, all the other animals on Earth, right? Guess what? We have evidence and we've seen this many, many times of many reptiles producing virgin births. We've seen sharks have virgin births. This is a documented thing that happens.

[Gary]

Were the human ones.

[Cobra]

Well, guess what?

[Justin Admiral]

Maybe it was one of those. It's a rare occurrence. No, it's not a what about. I don't think you understand the word, what that word means. I'm using statistical proven things that we know happen.

[Pedro]

This is easy.

[Justin Admiral]

We can prove the animals have done this. It's more likely statistically that a human has done it at some point in history if all these other animals have done it. So like when you're sitting here, you're just going against hard science and you're not giving anything.

[Cobra]

Hard science? Yeah, you're under psychosis. And you let all these other Christians under psychosis too, believing Jesus Christ.

[Justin Admiral]

I'm not the one happy day because 11:11 popped up on my clock at 3 in the morning, bro.

[Cobra]

Come on. Goddamn thing. None.

[Gary]

Your sides would be admissible in a court of law.

[Cobra]

So you have nothing and your whole belief.

[Justin Admiral]

You sound like crystal girls that I go in like Bamboozle with a Snapchat thing like smash.

[Cobra]

I don't even have a Snapchat.

[Gary]

I don't even have one.

[Justin Admiral]

I believe you, but you sound like a crystal going like oh my God,

[Gary]

when did I bring up crystals?

[Justin Admiral]

I'm bringing up right now.

[Cobra]

Exactly. So maybe you sound with a crystal boy.

[Justin Admiral]

What does that even mean?

[Gary]

That didn't make sense on your cowboy.

[Justin Admiral]

I probably would. I'll be a little rhinestone cowboy.

[Cobra]

Rhinestone cowboy new name. That is your new influencer name. The rolling store cowboy.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah. Well that's also from A famous movie. But the point that I'm making here is you don't have anything of substance. Whenever, every time you have something going, you point to like one prediction you've made. Anybody can do that. I go by.

[Cobra]

Yeah.

[Justin Admiral]

One of the terms I go by is political profit. I predicted all sorts of shit. I have quantifiable predictions that we can go and look at as well. And here's the problem is even I do the same thing you're doing, except you do it on a mass scale to where it's almost fraudulent. You're sitting here making like fraudulent. Yeah. I would say you're basically a charlatan, a fraud. I like. I don't think you have anything of substance here you're sitting.

[Cobra]

I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll make the same deal to you.

[Gary]

I made it with someone else.

[Cobra]

Put your money where you're the money.

[Justin Admiral]

They're quiet.

[Cobra]

Maybe you're the. You're the best one of you guys. I don't give a who you are. Put your money.

[Justin Admiral]

Can all pull the credit cards out. This is what we call. This is a ass debate tactic right here. When you actually don't have any.

[Cobra]

You don't have the cojones to put money.

[Justin Admiral]

I've seen Gibbs burn like thousands of dollars on camera. I don't give a. About the money.

[Cobra]

So obviously he's scared against me. He knows this is real. That's why I'm scared.

[Gary]

He knows this is real.

[Justin Admiral]

If that's what I'm scared of. Yeah, you have about as much substance as the turds that the cows take. Like none. Like, I mean, like, bro, like, this is. Listen, you're.

[Gary]

That's your best wine.

[Cobra]

That's your best wine. You're a good salesman.

[Justin Admiral]

You can sell manure to a fucking shit farmer. I don't give a shit. But the point that you're making here, it doesn't have anything of substance. Right. This is a tactic jewelry companies use. They mark things up, they sell. You're doing this all the same tactics that salesmen do. But you're doing it on a mass scale and you're trying to frame some spiritual backing when there's nothing behind it. There's no mathematical.

[Gary]

Yes, there is. Numerology is real and math back.

[Justin Admiral]

I'm sure. I mean, I guess the world.

[Cobra]

Okay.

[Justin Admiral]

The waters turn the frogs.

[Gary]

I could care less what you think or anyone else. Sure, I do care what the people in the top positions think. And when I again, I'm going to Bring up Elon Musk.

[Justin Admiral]

But you don't even know what they think you were saying.

[Cobra]

Yes, I do.

[Justin Admiral]

That you were saying you're a capitalist capitalist and then you said you're a fascist. 1940s fascism was ultimately left wing social fascism.

[Cobra]

Fascism incorporates capitalism, jackass. Fascism incorporates corporation did when they.

[Justin Admiral]

They bought the things through the party. Oh, so you're just a purist. I see. Once again you're not talking about anything that's really happened. So you're talking about fantasy things as well.

[Gary]

So it has never happened.

[Cobra]

No, it's never happened. No, no.

[Gary]

100%.

[Cobra]

We've never had a legit.

[Justin Admiral]

That's never happened.

[Cobra]

Doesn't mean it won't happen.

[Gary]

It hasn't happened yet.

[Cobra]

You advocate that Jesus is coming back. I haven't seen that happen.

[Justin Admiral]

Where's your proof?

[Cobra]

It's happening. Exactly. You're the snake oil salesman. You're the one who believes he's coming back. You're a fucking. A fraud.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, here's the difference though. I'm not trying to win this debate based off the Christianity argument like my friend Andrew over here is doing. I don't give a shit about that as far as this is made. I'm saying that based off historical precedent, historical evidence. You know why we know Alexander the Great exists? Because we can go and find evidence from his time period coins. We can go find the isthmus where he built it to go and blow up a town and take it up. Well, listen, I don't think you understand what circumstantial means.

[Gary]

Would it be admissible in court of law? That's what I'm talking about. In fact, they wouldn't court a law

[Justin Admiral]

because when you take like, I don't know, a murder weapon and they go and find, I don't know, the arrows and skulls or the damage that would be called.

[Gary]

Yes, that would be millions of arrows and like that. What are you even talking about?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, do you know why there's millions of arrows in a certain area where they had a battle? Hey, that's why they. We know it existed. It's not circumstantial that there's a million arrows and a Panama, not a panel. I.

[Gary]

What are you even talking about? Are you arguing with yourself? What are you even doing here?

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, listen, what are you doing here? You're talking about. You're gaslighting.

[Cobra]

Here's the thing, here's the thing.

[Gary]

When it comes down to it, okay, numerology and astrology is based off mathematics, right? Mathematics is the only true language out there. Okay, right. So I can base off mathematics certain things.

[Leo]

Proof.

[Justin Admiral]

Matt says you're wrong.

[Gary]

Math says I'm wrong.

[Justin Admiral]

Right? Well, first, you didn't know the rules of logic, right? Logic is math. Right. Hold on, hold on.

[Cobra]

Logic is math?

[Justin Admiral]

Yes, logic is math. If you were taking a logic course, I don't want to sound like a dick, but I don't know what your highest level of education is, but it's clear you didn't ever take a college lodge class, even at a community call on a college level. Because if you did, you would know that there is.

[Gary]

On top of all, it's like peasants are trying.

[Cobra]

Peasants?

[Justin Admiral]

Bro, this is what you're talking about. Earlier you called me an elitist earlier. Now I'm a peasant. Listen, you're. Listen, I'm. No doubt, no doubt a peasant mindset would be going to get.

[Cobra]

By the way, by the way, by the way, by the way. Are you divorced?

[Justin Admiral]

Yes. But hold on, hold on.

[Cobra]

Every single time all these people try to tell me how to live, they have failed at life, they have failed their nuclear family. But the numerologist, astrologer, I divorced. Second of all, you're a heretic. He's a heretic. Divorce or heretic?

[Justin Admiral]

You're cool on the hair thing. I don't give a shit. I'm not sitting here trying to argue from a Christian standpoint. That's the difference I'm saying. In fact, oh, I will do this. I would say it is more bullshit and then go and have to pick up somebody from another culture that's far away that suppresses their women because I can't keep a woman of American values to me.

[Gary]

You know what it is? I am not gonna wife up a ran through fucking whore.

[Cobra]

Maybe you can't.

[Justin Admiral]

So you're just not good enough.

[Cobra]

Maybe you can't.

[Justin Admiral]

I got it. There's a reason all my women come back. I'm just saying.

[Cobra]

Would you rather buy a news car,

[Gary]

A used car or used. A new car?

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, I'd rather have the woman that can make me my dick car. Not the one that's going to lie there. She does not.

[Cobra]

How about. How about both?

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, I guess how about both?

[Gary]

You know, listen, listen.

[Justin Admiral]

I mean, how, how, how would you.

[Cobra]

How would we even know if you've only a virgin?

[Justin Admiral]

How would you know? I guess ignorance is.

[Gary]

No, actually, actually, you can tell if someone's a virgin. You can actually tell. So did she cheat on you?

[Justin Admiral]

Huh? My wife? Why cheat on me?

[Gary]

Yeah. Is that why the why the mar.

[Justin Admiral]

She wasn't ambitious enough.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Enough.

[Gary]

She wasn't ambitious. Why the marriage end?

[Justin Admiral]

Because I ended it.

[Gary]

You ended it?

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah.

[Gary]

You cheated on your woman?

[Justin Admiral]

No.

[Gary]

Why'd you end it?

[Justin Admiral]

Because she wasn't ambitious enough. I had things I wanted to do.

[Gary]

Vows with a woman. And then you broke them.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, sure.

[Gary]

Okay. So you're a heretic.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, I already said that.

[Gary]

Okay, outstanding. So again, this man's trying to tell me about Jesus.

[Cobra]

It's real, but yet failed your goddamn marriage. You failed everything you've done. I feel bad for these guys.

[Justin Admiral]

Peter came back from the dead and started talking about. Because who are you talking to? I'm not sitting here advocating for you to live a Christian lifestyle. I'm advocating for you to stop sitting here preaching like I don't know. Because you're sitting here saying numerology.

[Gary]

It's interesting that I'm still married based off numerology 23.

[Cobra]

All the Christians here have failed at their marriage. They're trying to teach me about Jesus. Yet the got it all and they want to. Nobody's doing minds.

[Justin Admiral]

You don't have any. You don't have anything to argue back against that. Things of substance that I've said.

[Gary]

No, no, no.

[Justin Admiral]

No historical facts. That's why you're trying to go with it.

[Cobra]

I want to talk about the messenger, and the messenger tells me you're full of.

[Moderator Sean]

Gibbs is trying to attack numerology directly. He's trying to attack your claims from today. What you are doing instead is going and attacking his Christianity. So we are two ships right now.

[Cobra]

No, no, no, no.

[Gary]

My system has proven that I'm still married.

[Moderator Sean]

I hear you.

[Gary]

This system has failed him.

[Cobra]

So the Christian system has failed him. My numerology has worked wonderful.

[Gary]

Here's the point though, okay, Mr. Divorce.

[Moderator Sean]

He's not coming in on the Christianity claim. He's not making.

[Gary]

He was talking about Jesus.

[Moderator Sean]

He's sure.

[Justin Admiral]

I was making this like an example.

[Moderator Sean]

His claim is right now is attacking

[Gary]

numerology, saying that there's nothing behind attacking numerology. I have asked him to put his money where his mouth is. I'll be blindfolded. I will read 20 random people and let them decide if I'm right or wrong.

[Cobra]

But that's him. That's it. That's.

[Justin Admiral]

That's a parlor trick. I could do that.

[Cobra]

That's not hard at all. How about that? I bet you can't do it. I bet you can't.

[Justin Admiral]

I would. Major.

[Cobra]

I got money says you can't do it.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, listen, if you ask.

[Cobra]

Exactly. So when I bring it out of him, if you don't want to do it. When I say let me do it, he doesn't want to do it either.

[Justin Admiral]

If you actually have the money you. You say you do, then you'll know that wealthy people don't bet like that. They go and, like, go to the golf course, and they bet a dollar at a time, because a real flex is power, not money. Like, how much. How much land do you have? I'll bet you 10k. Like, 10k acres. How many acres do you have?

[Gary]

I got an app worth $80 million.

[Cobra]

Cool, bro. That's the point. Like you. That's nothing. What are you talking about? I got a ring on me that's

[Gary]

worth more than your house.

[Cobra]

What the are you talking about, bro?

[Justin Admiral]

You don't know how big my house is.

[Gary]

I know it's not worth this.

[Cobra]

I don't know if you know how

[Justin Admiral]

the beef industry is doing, but if you have me, if you're doing pretty good, if you're able to sell, hey,

[Cobra]

we're both eating good, so I'll give you that.

[Justin Admiral]

But I'm. What I'm saying here is when you're arguing this, right, you don't have any, like, substance. You don't have any data. That accident. And when you go and sit here, you're basically finding a pattern that doesn't actually exist. Right? There's a term for that.

[Gary]

Numerology ain't for everybody. We need stupid sheep on this planet. We need people like that.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, because that way he can sell you the.

[Cobra]

Want to be one of those guys? Go ahead.

[Gary]

Or you can be part of the people at the very top of the food chain, like Elon Mus.

[Justin Admiral]

Like me, the elitist that you all did earlier.

[Cobra]

You just said you didn't give a About poor people, like, five times.

[Justin Admiral]

Like, you literally are arguing.

[Moderator Sean]

Gentlemen, I asked one very specific request at the very beginning of this. And I said, when I'm talking, I. I ask that you just be mindful of that so that I can.

[Gary]

You're a woman. It's hard for me to find.

[Moderator Sean]

I am trying to move us along because we have a of ton time crunch now, so.

[Gary]

All right, finish him up. We'll get the last.

[Moderator Sean]

Gibbs, if you'd like to give a final statement to Gary, and then we'll move on to Leah.

[Justin Admiral]

Yeah, listen, I guess I'm a believer in numerology now because I believe in the number two, and that's two assholes you just got for Me in this debate. Thank you for having me.

[Cobra]

That's not bad.

[Gary]

That's not bad. That's not bad.

[Pedro]

Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode. If you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.

[Cobra]

Now we actually have.

[Gary]

I appreciate that. Now we actually have an intellectual. I can actually debate. I'm born in the 7th, he's born on the 16th. People who are born in the 7th, 16th, 25th, 2 and 5 and 7, 1 in 6 and 7 are the actual intellectuals in life. And it doesn't matter what their race is. It doesn't matter what their gender is. And to the white supremacists out there, let me just say this before we start. A lot of white supremacists out there want to go back to the golden days of the 1950s where America was lily white and all that. You know, everyone had their virgin wife and, and stuff like that. That's not possible anymore. Number one, women don't breastfeed their kids. When women don't breastfeed their kids, another result of feminism, the IQ of the child drops by about 8 to 9 points. This is clinically proven. Number two, when you have a woman that has multiple kids with multiple men, the more kids she has with men down the line, the lower their iq. So the white people that want to go back to the 1950s society where, you know that's just not going to happen because those white people had IQs between 115 to about 110. These white people today, they're a birth by whores and all this other nonsense. They got about 100 to a 95 IQ. So to the white supremacists out there, you guys are closer to the ends you hate than the white people who are your ancestors from 70 years ago. Case closed.

[Moderator Sean]

All right, Leo, you have a claim to make, sir. Let's get it.

[Leo]

So, though I was listening to you and I wanted to touch on the fact that you think that Jewish people are the smartest people.

[Gary]

And if you take the numerology aside, numerology, obviously, I don't care if you're black or a woman. If you're born in 7, 16, 25th, obviously you have a high, the highest IQ under my system.

[Leo]

Yeah, I believe that that is a rigged system for them to succeed. So it's perceived that they have a hierarchy and they basically created this path for them to have the hierarchy that they have. Ultimately, if we broke it down to God's standards. I would say that they probably don't have the highest iq, but because it's a capitalist society that they created, they have this advantage or perception that they are this market.

[Gary]

So they're. They're better at making money than everyone else. Is that what you're telling me?

[Leo]

First of all, money is not real. And real currency comes from.

[Gary]

How'd you get over here?

[Leo]

We have a system that relies on currency.

[Gary]

Okay. So you had to. You have to drive to put. You have to put gas in the car, you have to buy a car to actually come over here.

[Leo]

Right. To us Exchanging currency, which is a made up value. There was a barter exchange where you would have to exchange oranges for apples. Now we just.

[Gary]

That wasn't a very effective system.

[Leo]

I.

[Gary]

Was it?

[Leo]

Yeah, it was. It was actually very.

[Gary]

Was it?

[Leo]

Yeah, it actually provided value. Now that you're exchanging money, that's made out of thin air. That's basically a Pawnee scheme. It gives the people that. Are you probably the lowest people in society the ability to be at the highest point because they made a capitalist society that relies on.

[Gary]

Aren't you a pretty good earner?

[Leo]

No, I definitely capitalize on the fact.

[Gary]

Oh, you capitalize. Okay. Okay, so. So because they capitalize it on it, that doesn't mean anything, but you capitalize on it, that's okay.

[Leo]

Yeah, like they put me in it.

[Gary]

So they put you in it.

[Leo]

But it doesn't mean that you could have left.

[Gary]

You could have went to Africa. You could have went to a socialist country, Canada. Why'd you stay here?

[Leo]

I was born American.

[Gary]

You could leave. You're free to leave.

[Leo]

I could do that?

[Gary]

Yeah, you could.

[Leo]

Honestly, I agree with the fact that I probably should leave because capitalism is actually destroying humanity.

[Gary]

Capitalism is destroying humanity.

[Leo]

Yes.

[Gary]

So divisive. Joseph Stalin killed about 50 million people. He's a bloodthirsty communist. Tell me how that's a superior system to what we have right now.

[Leo]

I didn't give the contrast that said that was superior.

[Gary]

So what's better than capitalism? Give me a better system.

[Leo]

A better system would be there's only

[Gary]

socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism.

[Leo]

I'm not trying to commit to anything that's already ordained.

[Gary]

So tell me what the better system is.

[Leo]

A system that's based off of true actual value.

[Gary]

And who decides what that value is?

[Leo]

Humans.

[Gary]

Humans decide. Yeah, we're currently basically so mob mentality.

[Leo]

No, it's not mob mentality.

[Gary]

Well, the more humans decide something, then that's the. Where the Value is. Right. So if 60% of humans decide that, oh, this c, this product is worth this much, that's what it means, right? Based on their, what you just said.

[Leo]

No, that's democracy. Because then that would be like a collective decision. But I'm saying that those 6 to 40% that don't agree doesn't have to assimilate to the 60%. They could do their own thing.

[Gary]

How do they do their own thing? We're going to have two systems in one place. One, one is communist, one is, there's

[Leo]

enough land for that and space. We're all piled up on cities.

[Gary]

And how does socialism survive without taking money from other people? How does communism survive without taking money from other people? And eventually you can't take money from other people because the money runs out. Yeah, but how's that work?

[Leo]

Relying on the currency, which is based off of capitalism, I'm seeing a space that actually has true barter value where like these people here have oranges and these people have apples and they trade.

[Gary]

You want to go back to the Stone Age, is it?

[Leo]

I'm not saying that, but I'm saying the economics make a little bit more sense because it's fair and it gives true value of exchange where now it's all made up.

[Gary]

You're, you're, you're a black man or you're mixed, right?

[Leo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Okay. Would you say that blacks are the most disadvantaged group in the world?

[Leo]

I would agree with that.

[Gary]

You would agree with that? What if I told you In America there's 1.8 million black Americans who are millionaires, and if you go outside of America, it's about 150000 and all of outside of America you have 150000 black men who are millionaires. Here you have 1.8. So the most disadvantaged group in the world, we both agree, is black, but yet they thrive in America. Why is that?

[Leo]

No, that's, but that's also American black people. So for that 1.8 rich people, there's a drastic amount that is not successful. So if you scale those, like how, how exceptional is that? 1.8 versus the ones that are not.

[Gary]

I, I, I told you, if you take the 1.8 and you compare it to the rest of the world, again, America's 4% of the world population, 96%, is outside of America. Outside of America, 150, 000 black millionaires

[Leo]

inside, almost 2 million contingent on capitalism and currency.

[Gary]

So it actually works.

[Leo]

No, it doesn't. It's a.

[Gary]

Why it didn't take black people out of poverty. Black people here have money. That doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.

[Leo]

Poverty is a choice.

[Gary]

Poverty is a choice. Poverty is not a choice under socialism. Poverty is not a choice under capital. Under communism. It's only a choice under capitalism. If you don't want to work, then. Listen, brother, I know what you do. You make a lot. You make good money, okay? Would that be possible unless we didn't live in the capitalist system?

[Leo]

No, but I would.

[Cobra]

Exactly. So you wouldn't have that money to do that though.

[Leo]

This is my point though. I wouldn't have to do that if we weren't relying on this fake currency exchange. And this the, the point of you saying like the people outside of America, they don't have it. That's because the capitalist society is strategically impoverishing the other places.

[Gary]

Like that's all. That's all good.

[Leo]

There's enough AI and like think about you said elaps. He has a trillion dollars. There's enough resources for everyone to be advanced. They don't need to be third world countries. It's a choice.

[Cobra]

Oh, oh, so everyone could be a winner.

[Gary]

That's not how the game works, brother.

[Cobra]

For every.

[Gary]

For every Los Angeles Lakers, there's a New Jersey Nets.

[Cobra]

For every New York Yankees, there's a Minnesota Twins. For someone to win, someone has to lose. That is how yin yang works, my friend.

[Moderator Sean]

And we've got about three minutes left. I want you to make sure you have time to finish your problem.

[Gary]

Go into numerology. We'll go into numerology. So my perspective is 33 life paths are the dominant force on this planet. From a numerology perspective, what's yours?

[Leo]

I believe 11s are.

[Gary]

Why?

[Leo]

Just because we the example of The Obama's an 11.

[Gary]

So Obama is just a charismatic guy.

[Leo]

What else you got? Michael Jordan, best basketball player of all time.

[Gary]

Again. Again. A good athlete. That's a. That's an athlete. That's an athlete. So athletes around the world.

[Leo]

No, but I could.

[Gary]

You can get five Michael Jordans.

[Cobra]

I will take Albert Einstein over. I'll take the right brothers at 33 over your guys.

[Leo]

I'm gonna defeat your argument.

[Gary]

Go ahead. You got two minutes.

[Leo]

The American black people are the most influential people in the world. And Jewish people are actually using us to monetize the planet. But if we actually had the education system that was given to us and not stolen from us, we'd be smarter than and better than everyone. And I would, I would stand on that all day.

[Gary]

Well, the Moors had their run when they enslaved, you know, the people in for 700 years.

[Leo]

Michael Jordan, the best ball player because he decided to focus on basketball. You're not going to tell me if he tried to focus on statistics or physics, he wouldn't be the best.

[Gary]

No, he wouldn't.

[Leo]

Yeah, he could. He has the aptitude. He has a dedication to learn.

[Gary]

Yesterday he was an Aquarius and he had great leaping skills because of it. What are you talking about?

[Leo]

You're also saying that basketball doesn't take iq. You can't just be a good player.

[Gary]

It's like there's plenty, there's plenty of great players who are low iq.

[Leo]

Yeah. And they don't make it. They don't become the best.

[Gary]

He's considered. Russell Russbrook was one of the greatest players of all time. He's as dumb as a goddamn toolbox, bro.

[Cobra]

You can't even say that James Harden

[Gary]

is one of the great basketball players of all time. Chokes all the time. What are you talking about?

[Leo]

That's not based off of IQ and their ability to know the, the game. I would argue that James Harden is one of the smartest basketball players because he averages multiple assists and that's very hard to do. He's self aware of the entire game.

[Gary]

Yeah. 27 from 3 point range in the playoffs. Yeah, that's, that's real. I think, I think I could do better.

[Leo]

Lean on the Michael Jordan.

[Cobra]

Yeah, you do that. Do that.

[Leo]

No, for real. Because the fact that he's capable to become the best basketball player. It's not based off of fully athleticism. That takes high iq. Lets me.

[Gary]

I would say, I would say Michael Jordan's high IQ. I'd say LeBron James is higher IQ seconds ago.

[Leo]

You, you disagree?

[Gary]

I said they're high IQ, those guys. But you're not going to tell me that everyone who's a great basketball player is high iq. That's ridiculous.

[Leo]

I'm emphasizing the best for a reason. To say that if he wanted to focus on physics.

[Cobra]

You're telling me, you're telling me Michael

[Gary]

Jordan could be the best chemist in the world? If you want to.

[Rollo Tomassi]

Come on, bro.

[Leo]

I 100 believe.

[Cobra]

Come on, man.

[Gary]

You're trying to sell me a dream, bro.

[Cobra]

You're not even a politician. You're trying to sell me a dream. Come on, bro.

[Leo]

It's based off of the information that's available in his dedication to study and become the best. He's already showed that he could do that with basketball.

[Gary]

It takes, you know, based off numerology and astrology. You're not like the rest of these guys. You actually believe in this stuff. You know, based off numerology and astrology. Some people who are elevens have the charisma. People who are fives have the looks.

[Cobra]

You're gonna.

[Gary]

And Ones are the leaders.

[Cobra]

You know this.

[Gary]

So, you know, based off that information, not everyone can be the best of everything based off their birthday.

[Cobra]

You know this.

[Leo]

I'm gonna ask you a question that none of them know enough. Enough to ask you.

[Gary]

But the first of all, we got a minute. Go ahead.

[Leo]

That we follow is. Is just not accurate. It was changed. It's the. It was based off of the Gregorian character calendar. So now we have 12 months.

[Pedro]

Just.

[Leo]

We have 12 hours.

[Gary]

Yeah, we should have 13 months and 100.

[Leo]

If you're basically admitting to me that that's.

[Gary]

And I. I will tell you. The Matrix will adapt the system to what everyone believes it is because this virtual reality is. And that's how the Matrix works.

[Leo]

The virtual reality is functioning because we're all assimilating in the same exact equation.

[Gary]

Correct.

[Leo]

And because we follow that equation, it gives us the reality that we exist.

[Gary]

And when you stop following it, it won't work. But since everyone's still following it, that's not the case. And that's how it's always going to be.

[Leo]

Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the numbers that we're following are accurate.

[Gary]

Based off the system we have right now, it is the most accurate way to use it. Am I saying my numerology is 100 on point? No. I'm a practitioner. I'm a human being. I can make mistakes. The numerology and astrology is always on point. It's always on the practitioner, not the system itself.

[Leo]

No, I believe that the numbers are always on point.

[Gary]

So we basically say the same thing.

[Leo]

Yeah, not necessarily the astrology, but I. I do believe that the numbers are always on point. They're always the underlying common denominator.

[Gary]

How'd you find numerology?

[Leo]

I found numerology based off of asking the universe to reveal to me the information that's controlling the world. And by me asking the universe for that, it manifested multiple opportunities for me to see through the veil and see that numbers are running everything.

[Gary]

See, the beauty about what I've done is I've given 45, 000, 45, 000 people readings. Now, if all these people did the same, they probably have a different perspective the way I have it. But one thing I've seen throughout My life is when people are 11s, 22s, or 33s. Like this man over here. The way he met up to me, just saw me in the streets. He knows I'm Gary, the numbers guy. We just started talking. He's in numerology now. He's my bodyguard. It is what it is. But at the end of the day, the 11s get it. Because you're old souls, and I know you agree with that. The 22s get it, the 33s get it. All the people who are one through nines, you guys have to grind and pass your reincarnations and get to this level. Because I truly believe that the 11s, the 22s, and 33s, are the old souls. Anyways, brother. Outstanding. Where can people reach you? Where can people find you?

[Leo]

Instagram. No comparison. Tick tock, the human line.

[Gary]

Sean, appreciate you setting this up. And next time, let's get more fireworks.

[Leo]

Thanks for having me.

[Cobra]

This has been a GG33 production.

[Gary]

Peace, baby. Oh, by the way, the Q app, the best numerology astrology app ever made. Get it free to download.

[Moderator Sean]

Thank you, Gary.

[Cobra]

This was good capitalism.

[Pedro]

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