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People don't believe me, which is insane. Like, I'll literally post like every week. I do, I do like a how much did I win or lose this week? And people will be like, liar. This girl is not. It's not possible. She has an only fans. This is her parents money. And I was like, not only do I post like truthful results, but I also post story times of how it happened every single day. You know what I mean? And at a certain point, like, you would think that if my following gets big enough, people would just be like, no, she's lying. I played with her. Like, if I was actually lying about it, someone would call me out. Right? One's calling me out. Like, it makes no sense.
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All right, guys, we got Abby here. Caught her right before she left Vegas.
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Yep.
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Little bit of a tilt right now, huh?
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Yeah, one might say that. You know, at a certain point I feel like poker gets a little bit. Can get a little bit old. So I'm changing up the scenery. I'm going to Borgata to play in the. The summer poker open there. So I'm really excited. I gotta switch it up a little bit though.
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Nice.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah. How's the gambling? Until I make X Series going, oof.
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Good. But it's tough. I mean, I think, truthfully, I think the thing that people underestimate the most about that is because the. The difficult part is not cash games. Like, anybody can book a win in a cash game. That's kind of what makes poker so good, is that anyone can do it. But the tournaments add up. Like, it is really hard to run deep in a tournament. And like, truthfully, those tournaments, they're expensive.
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Yeah, it's only the top 10. 15% cash, right?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. So it was kind of brutal because, like, at the beginning of my series, I was playing a mix of like cash and tournaments, but I was really trying to hit it big. Like, I was not trying to make 10k, I was trying to make like 100k, but realistically try to make like 10k or something like that. And then long story short, I was buying into these like eleven hundred dollar tournaments, like, all by myself. And I realized very quickly that that strategy was gonna have to change if I wanted any chance of making 10k. Because 1100 adds up a lot.
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You're rebuying as soon as you boss.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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So I wonder why. Because I know some really good cash game players. They just suck at tournaments.
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No, for sure. It's a very different game. And truthfully, I think in cash, it's very different because you're normally deep stack. So a lot of these, like, cash game pros, if they come into tournaments, they'll do well in like the first couple levels. But when things start to get like shorter and like the blinds go up and things like that, they really struggle. So I feel like, you know, whereas on the opposite, I'm like a short stack legend.
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Right.
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And I'm like, what am I doing with 600 bigs? Yeah. To each their own different strengths.
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That's why you got to respect guys like Hellmuth. I know he's controversial, but, like, he crushes it at tournaments, for sure.
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Can't deny the goat. He. He's actually very interesting too, because Hellmuth, like, say what you want about, like, his Persona and stuff, but, like, Hellmuth did something that nobody did at the time. He created a brand for himself. And then he also, like, identified a niche that wasn't really being tapped into. And it was truthfully, like, the most genius thing he could do. Like, he basically said, no one's winning bracelets. I'm gonna win the most bracelets. And he went out and did it. You know what I mean? Exactly. So, like, you know, props to the guy. Can't say a bad thing about him.
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This World Series might be the most drama I've ever seen.
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It's insane. Truly. I agree.
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Yeah, he's insane. Cause Souf is like the guy like your uncle at. He's like your uncle at like a family dinner where you're like, please stop talking. And he just won't. You know what I mean? Like you could beg the guy and he just like, he's just infinite. Yappy, yappy, yappa. You know what I mean? But truthfully, I don't really know. Like a lot of these poker players are so like egotistical. I think like sometimes in a good way, sometimes in a bad way, you have to be self centered. Like poker is a zero, some game, right? So at the end of the day when you win, it means that someone else is like not winning. And in that case, what Kasuf did was he basically identified that and then played to that. So he's going to make, he's like, well, I'm going to take that dynamic and like amplify it. I think it's going to be like one of those things where I'm going to get in your head and I'm going to play all of the other elements that you aren't expecting.
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Right.
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So also say what you want. Poker loves a character. The viewers speak for himself. Like poker, go record numbers.
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Yeah, I was rooting for him to make the final table. I'm not going to lie.
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Oh, I was not.
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I know that's a hot take, but I love the drama. I love Cabrill. I watch Cabrill play. Yeah, I know you probably hate playing with guys like that, but as a viewer, because I don't play.
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Yes.
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A different perspective. I think it makes good entertainment.
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I totally agree with that for what it's worth from like a viewer perspective. But at the same time, I think especially in the main event, like with Kusuf in particular, like he was delaying the game he was like, getting into all these antics when the stakes were the highest that they possibly could have been, right? And like, to me, I have a lot of empathy for the people that were at the same table with him in the sense that, like, if this was like the biggest score of your life or like the deepest run of your life and you're sitting there playing for the most money you've ever played for, like some of these guys before this, their biggest cash was 10k. They're now fighting to get between 250k and the next pay jump is $300,000. Like, that is insane, right? And like, truthfully, a lot, the game of poker is mental. And so if he's like attacking that and he's stalling and he's causing disruptions to the game in that way, I do have a lot of empathy for those players because truthfully, it's like, you know, yeah, he's good for poker, he's good for the viewership. Undeniably. Poker loves a villain, you know, but at the same time, like, these people are also equally deserving to a respectable game of poker. And I feel like they were robbed of that.
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I could agree with that too. How did you think the World Series treated it with all the penalties? And I think he's not allowed to play anymore. Right.
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I don't remember who said this on Twitter, but I thought someone had like a really good take that I agreed with. I think that the biggest issue that I had with the whole thing was the fact that on day six, they basically were like, haha, Like Kasu, so funny. Like this guy. Come on now, watch your tongue, you know what I mean? Like, mind your mouth. And then on day seven, they came in and they went like apeshit on the guy. Like they legitimately were like, say one word and you're disqualified. Whoa, what a switch up, you know what I mean? So I do think, and also like, I do think that the wsop, I don't. I think that they need to be taking from like a business perspective, a player first mindset. And unfortunately that does include Kasuf, you know what I mean? And so we're fortunately depending on who you ask, but I think like, the reason why I'm saying this is because I think if they would have just said something on like Twitter or they had pulled him aside before the match and said, hey, just letting you know, like we had a meeting last night and we're going, no bullshit today, like, serious, not a single word. I think the whole situation changes. But when you Kind of, like, surprise. And there's a lot of, like, ambiguity to the rules. I think that this is where he actually has a bit of a point there, you know, which is not something that the WSOP I think would want.
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But it seems like there's going to implement something next year, right? Yeah, there's a lot of talk about it.
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Yeah. And the thing is, is too, like, the. Even the tournament director rules are a little bit ambiguous when it comes to, like, disrupting the game or, like, game flow and how. How the etiquette rules can be enforced. So I do think that, like, there is space for, like, the influencers in the industry. Think, like, Matt Savage. Right. To take control of that, like, narrative and, like, change it. You know what I mean?
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Did you feel like that 10 second clock he had was kind of harsh?
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I did. I truly think that. Like, especially when your opponent. I think there was an example that I saw circulating where, long story short, he had gotten to the river and he had rivered the nut straight, but the board had paired as well. And his opponent bet 2x pot on the river. And it's a very polarizing spot. Like, your opponent is literally saying, I have, like, nothing, nothing or I have a boat.
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Right?
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And that's literally it. And he had 10 seconds to basically go with his gut, and he ended up, like, being forced to fold his hand because the 10 second time clock ran out. Like, it does feel as though there are certain situations where 10 seconds is simply too quick. But on the other hand, unfortunately, it's not like they just randomly were like, here's 10 seconds. Like, clearly the guy has respectfully deserved this. You know what I mean? So, yeah, kind of brutal, but who's.
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The most annoying player you played against?
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Oh, man, I don't think I've played with a lot of, like, annoying people from, like, a social perspective, because I love the social, social aspect of the game. Like, truly, I do not consider myself, like, a super pro. Like, I consider myself a content creator that, like, loves poke poker. But at the same time, like, I think that there are things that people do that, like, tilt the shit out of me. Like, come on, like, poker is gonna be fun. And like, at a certain, at a certain point, like, we can all smile, we can all laugh. We all have to feel, like, super grateful for the fact that we can play this poker game for a living, right? So, like, when people take themselves a little bit too seriously, I think that annoys me. But it's also, like, I do understand that they are trying to win Just as much as I'm trying to win. So, like, I think that there's, like, I have a lot of respect for them at the same time. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. The final tables today, right?
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Yes.
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So this will come out after, but let's do some predictions for fun. So who do you think is going to win the final table?
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Okay. So hot take here. I do not think it's going to be Michael Mizrachi. I think there's a lot of people that are on his court. I don't think that he cares enough about the money to fully respect, if you will, the ICM implications of the final table. I think that could work really for him or really against him, for what it's worth, because he might take spots that are, like, ultra aggressive because he thinks that there's a chance to capitalize on that dynamic. But I got to go. Leo, she's an amazing poker player. She's had deep runs before. She's familiar with the pressure. And truthfully, it doesn't seem like the. The dynamic of, like, having the weight of women on your back at all is getting to her. And so, truly, I think if she can show up and play her game, I think she's going to take it down for sure.
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She's been doing well. I started knockout, like, four people.
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Yeah.
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A couple days ago.
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Yes. And honestly, like, truthfully, final tables in particular, a lot of it comes down to, like, getting there when you need to get there, holding when you're all in. Right. Like, things like that, especially when it comes to laddering up with these, like, very, very, very, very steep pay jumps. So I think that, you know, I mean, little Lady Luck never hurt anybody, so hopefully she can take it down. That's my goal.
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How many final tables have you made in tournaments?
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Oof. That's a tough question. Because truthfully, I don't make a lot of final tables. I'm not gonna lie. Maybe, like, three or four lifetime, but I only have two lifetime wins, so I'm going for a third.
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Oh, so you won two out of.
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The three in terms of final tables? Yes, actually. Yeah. Yeah.
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So when you get there, you're nice.
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I try. But also, like, this is gonna sound a little bit Whaley, but I'm also kind of a Michael Mizrachi in the sense where I'm, like, looking to take spots that I think are advantageous. So, like, whether or not that helps or hurts me depends on who I'm aggressive a little bit. Yeah. But also. Yeah. I mean, I'm always looking for the win, but if a spot feels right, it feels right. And I'm not going to shy away from that, to be honest.
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Nice. Did you make money right away when you started playing?
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Hell, no. I sucked at poker when I started. Oh, my gosh, I was so bad. I remember the first time I sat down to play poker, I legitimately, like, ran this ridiculous bluff. It was so stupid, looking back, obviously. And I remember getting up from the table and, like, busting. Obviously, I was like, whatever. Some dumb hand. And I get up from the table, I'm walking to the rebuy session. And this was, like, a 20 tournament, by the way, at the time. This is nothing like, crazy. And the guy who I had just, like, busted to comes and follows me and he goes. Just so you know, that was like. That, like, really didn't make sense. Like, that was a really bad play. I was like, oh, thank you so much. Like, rebuy. You know what I mean? Like, chips. I don't know. It was. It was ridiculous.
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Had to rub it in.
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Yeah, exactly, but.
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And that didn't stop you from wanting to keep playing?
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Hell, no. That motivated me. I was like, get me back in there. You know what I mean? I. I gotta. I can't let that slide put me at the same table. I'm gonna get those chips back.
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When did you feel like you really started getting good? Did you have a mentor like I did?
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Yeah. There's been, like, a couple people, like, lifetime that have really gotten me to think about the game differently. One of them is Joe McKean. He's actually a main event champ, so it was really cool to see him on my side analyzing my hands. He's a bit blunt when it comes to, you know, feedback.
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A lot of the poker guys are, to be honest.
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Yeah. But it's to the point where I'm like, damn. I. I think I might need it caused, like, an awakening. Me, I was like, whoa. I'm, like, really bad at poker, truthfully, because he would literally, I would send in these hand histories and he would respond and he'd be like, just so you know, you suck. Like, you know you suck, right? And I'm like, oh, awesome. You know what I mean? But, yeah, he's, like, a funny one that comes to mind.
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Some people learn that way, and some people are like, yeah, I'm never talking to that guy again.
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Exactly, exactly. No, he's funny. I think, truly, he has the best intentions at heart, but, like, at the same time, communication styles, I think, are pretty different. But I don't know. It works out. It like, jolted me into getting better. I was like, damn, I suck. Like, I got to reconsider. You know what I mean? So kind of worked out.
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But who's. Who have you been the most starstruck with playing wise?
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Like Steven Chidwick? Not close. Steven Chadwick. Steven Chadwick is like my idol. He is unbelievably talented. He has such a passion for the game and, like, a respect for the players around him, no matter what stakes. He's playing funny enough. I ended up playing against him in the main event last year, and sorry, two years ago, but we played together on day three, which is so unlucky. There's like 8,000 people left at the time. I'm like, really? I have the number one player in the world. Awesome. Like, perfect. But he, even though he was playing against people that genuinely probably haven't played higher than like a 1500, you know what I mean? Like, most of my table was like complete beginners. He maintained a respect for everybody and played his game versus everybody in like the most, you know, cutthroat, undoubtedly. But yeah, he's just a crusher. Like, I just have a lot of respect for him. Truly.
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Respect. What's the deepest you've made it in.
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The main, you know, I made day three and then I busted an hour before the money, which sucked. That would have been a sick cash. That's when they were doing 2x caches in the main to this year. They kind of messed it up with the 1.5x. I was not very happy about that. Yeah, they. They put out a rule. Actually, like, I want to say two years ago, I want to say I could be wrong about that, but two years ago where they basically said, we at WSOP are going to guarantee a 2x min cash to all of our tournaments. And then this year, they did it for almost every single other tournament except for the main event. It seemed to be because the. They wanted the final table payouts to be the same. But I don't know, like, I can't speak for them, obviously, but that would really suck to like, min cash and expect to make 20k and then get told, oh, sorry, you're only making 15.
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Yeah, it's a big difference.
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You know What I mean?
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5K.
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Yeah. Huge. Especially for recreational players.
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Yeah. Four days of poker.
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Yeah.
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That's a long time for sure. 12 hours a day, right?
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Yeah. Oh, easily. Sometimes more.
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What's your recovery process? Do you just knock out as soon as you get home?
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Oh, my Recovery process is horrendous. I'm, like, a freak about, like, content because, again, like, I'm a content creator as well. So, like, I. I don't really recover in the same ways as other people. A lot of my recovery actually looks like journaling, which I turn into, like, shorts and stuff like that. So a lot of what I do is, like, reflection on the day, and then I'll take, like, those notes, and then I'll, like, turn it into, like, a story that I can tell for my social media, like, the next day. So that's kind of. That's a big one for me. But also, like, truly, I think that the biggest thing that poker players mess up on is balance, like, lifestyle balance and stuff like that. Like, we have a really, really difficult time relaxing when there's always going to be, like, another good game and, like, there's always going to be a sick tournament with a crazy guarantee or whatever. But, like, truthfully, I really prioritize, like, hanging out with my friends. I prioritize getting good meals, sitting down, like, you know, enjoying myself in Las Vegas, because I truly think you'll go crazy if you don't. And, like, a lot of people just don't find that balance. So it's kind of sick, actually, if you think about it.
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Yeah. Because you guys have a crazy lifestyle. Like, you're traveling all over the world, not just the country. The tournaments are, like, in Asia, they're in the islands. It's impressive.
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Yeah. Fun fact. I was actually only home in my, like, home base City for 14% of the year last year, and it was for holidays and birthday.
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B
Holy crap. You're on the road your whole life.
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Yeah. 247 people are like, where do you live? I was like, I don't know. Thanks for asking. I really don't.
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B
Wow.
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Like, there's no home base.
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I go to Laundry Nomad, then.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Which places stand out to you?
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Oh, my favorite. One of my favorites is it's dc, But I go to MGM National Harbor. Like, I'm staying there when I go. That's, like, one of my favorite places to play and to, like, relax. I think they have, like, the perfect. They have kind of like a, like, a homey feel. D.C. is just very, like, historic and, like, you know, there's a lot to do there. So I enjoy the fact that you're, like, close to a city, and also the games are sick. This is crazy. But D.C. is, like, insane for poker because it's literally the, like, Bermuda Triangle of richness. I'm not even joking. There's like the politicians up north, there's the doctors out east and then there's the lawyers out west. So it's like kind of insane. But yeah, I love it. I mean, obviously it's the, the best.
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B
Those are the perfect professions to make.
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That's what I'm saying.
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And they all love playing high stakes.
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Exactly, exactly. I'm like, what's Trump doing tonight?
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I don't want to play one.
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3.
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I wonder if he plays. I'd be nuts.
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He has to write, like, surely. I think so. Like, I feel like all of those politicians probably play. I think the only person I do not see playing is like, I don't know, like Candace Owens or like whatever, but it's like, you know what I mean? I just couldn't see her dealing with like any type of at the poker table. So I feel like she would be.
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I don't know, speaking of politics, a big beautiful bill. I heard with the poker community, they hate that bill.
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Yeah, I think it's going to change the way. I think it's going to change the majority for the high stakes players. Because truthfully, what I expect to happen is that those games are going to essentially become private and like completely lose traction on the media side. Like, you can't buy into, you know, $5 million worth of tournaments and be expected to pay $5 million worth of like, you know, prorated rate of $5 million worth of taxes if you lose $5 million. Like, that would be insane. So truthfully, what I think is going to happen is I would love to see how like Triton or these like high stakes stops will like adjust to that, but I don't know. We'll see. I don't think it'll change anything about the cash scene. I think, to be honest, the majority of people just won't report their winnings. Like all the recreational players. You know what I mean?
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B
Why would you, if it's cash?
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Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, for me, I'm obviously going to because I'm playing too much and I track all my stuff on my Instagram. Like, I'd be an idiot not to. But at the same time it's like these recreational players have no incentive to. So I don't think it'll change that much about low stakes poker, to be honest.
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B
Yeah, but are you up or down on the year?
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Up.
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Nice.
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Yeah. People don't believe me, which is insane. Like I'll literally post like every week. I do, I do. Like, how much did I win or lose this week. And people will be like, liar. This girl is not. It's not possible. She has an only fans. This is her parents money. And I was like, not only do I post, like, truthful results, but I also post story times of how it happened every single day. You know what I mean? And at a certain point, like, you would think that if my following gets big enough, people would just be like, no, she's lying. I played with her. Like, if I was actually lying about it, someone would call me out. Right. And no one's calling me out. Like, it makes no sense, but up on the air. So I'm grateful for that.
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B
To be fair, a lot of the poker content creators lose money for sure. A lot of money.
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Yeah.
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B
So they're probably just assuming you're like, a losing player.
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Hey, fair enough. I'd rather that than the opposite. If you want to sit down with me and play and, like, think I'm the worst player ever, it's genuinely better for me. So I'll never correct that mindset. Truthfully. It makes a lot more sense for me to think that the. For them to think that I'm bad.
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B
I also feel like guys play easier on girls overall. Right.
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It's very polarizing. I feel like that's a bit of like a. A misconception. I think as like a whole, I think that there's two types of guys at the poker table. There's the types of guys that never fold, and like, they, they just cannot be bluffed by a woman. They just have to see it. Like, they just want me to show them. And then there's the type of guy that thinks that I'm never bluffing, and they truly think that, like, I can only be betting for value and I can never be bluffing. I don't have it within me to take an aggressive route. Right. Like, I think that, you know, and also, I mean, to. To their defense, there's also, of course, the pros, but I'm talking about, like, the stereotypes.
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B
Yeah.
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Um, but I think that, like, identifying which type of player you're playing against as a whole is like, can only be a good thing. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Just makes me a lot of money.
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B
Absolutely. Must be nice having that skill of just making money whenever you feel like it.
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Yeah. It's definitely can't hurt. But I don't know, you can also lose a lot of money in a very short amount of time, which is a bit of a foreign feeling for me.
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B
You know, what's the biggest Loss you've had.
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A
Oh, my gosh, this one was brutal. I actually. Okay, so this was when I was, like, first starting to get into poker and I booked this, like, unbelievably disproportionate loss to, like, what I was willing to, like, lose into my bankroll at the time, truthfully. Now in my sessions, I kind of cap my losses to like 1.5k, 2k, like, per session if I think the game is good. And I'm just like, not. You know what I mean? Like, and I'm willing to put in that much money. Like, I am willing to lose that in a day. However, there was this one day, I think it was like around 20, 22 or something. This was a couple years ago. And I'm. I basically went. Played in person, got demolished. Like, I got cooked. I think I ended up losing, like, 3.5k, like, in person in like a 2, 5 game. Which, like, wasn't that crazy, like, all things considered. But it was just like, the type of game that we were playing was very much just like, all in, all in, all in. Like, there was straddle, straddle, straddle. It was like a huge game.
- [23:53]
B
Right.
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A
So I lose, like, 3.5k. And truthfully, I probably would have bought in more, but I didn't have the cash on me. So I'm like, you know what? This is a sign I'm going to leave. Like, I'm going to leave. I go back home and at this moment, like, one of my friends text me. Is like, online tournaments running, like, online cash games. They're popping off like, you gotta play the text of the most, you know, degenerate thing ever. Like, you're probably used to it. But the. But, yeah. So I get home and then I hop online and I lose, like, an additional 2.5k online.
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B
Damn.
- [24:21]
A
And I. Yeah. And I literally, I'm just sitting there and I'm like, my Bankroll was like 10k at the time too. Like, I had, like, no bankroll. Like, even me playing two, five was stupid.
- [24:30]
B
Yeah.
- [24:31]
A
So to lose like two thirds of my bankroll in like, literally, like six hours was. I had to take a few days off after that. It was pretty brutal.
- [24:40]
B
60% of your bankroll. Jeez.
- [24:41]
A
Yeah, it was brutal. I was like, back to 50 cent $. I go like, I can't no more 2, 5.
- [24:46]
B
What's your favorite stakes now?
- [24:48]
A
2 5, I think. Yeah. Because truthfully, I think that like, 5, 10 and above gets a lot of regs. And I don't think that like, to be honest, I think that especially when you're in Vegas and the games are so good here, but it's like you can go play Aria 25 and buy in for 1500 dollars or you can go play 510 and buy in for like 5K. But the 25 are all of the like recreational, like visitors and stuff that are like coming to just kind of like splash around, have a good time. And then 510 is a lot of the pros that like live in Vegas and like need to play higher stakes to pay their bills. I'm like, I would rather book a 1k win in a 2,5 game than like a 3k win in a 510 game. Because I don't think that the 3k win at the 510 game is coming nearly as frequently as the 25 game. You know what I mean?
- [25:30]
B
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
- [25:31]
A
So to five I think is the sweet spot for me right now.
- [25:33]
B
But yeah, I heard the comp out here is nuts.
- [25:36]
A
It is. Truly, people are like, how are you staying in like these hotels? I'm like, do you know how much money I like give these casinos? Like, it's kind of ridiculous.
- [25:45]
B
Do you play other games?
- [25:46]
A
A few. Yeah. I'm not very good at like, no one's good at the other games, let's be honest. But like, you know, I love uth. I've recently gotten into craps. But sports betting is like my, my.
- [25:56]
B
Oh yeah, they'll copy if you're a big sports better.
- [25:58]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [25:59]
B
I used to fly my friend out from Jersey.
- [26:01]
A
Yeah, there you go.
- [26:02]
B
So much. They fly them out and give them free rooms and everything.
- [26:05]
A
Exactly. It's the best way to do it. You know what I mean?
- [26:07]
B
Yeah. But poker is like the most skill, right? Like, oh, for sure. Nothing comes close.
- [26:11]
A
Yeah. Even when I'm sports betting. Like, truly, everything that I do is like for fun, you know what I mean? Like besides poker, you know, like everything that I do is, is genuinely just because I don't think I have an edge. Sports betting, who. How am I supposed to know if like the Eagles are going to win the Super bowl by seven or by 48 points? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I don't find edge there. But like all of the other things, like poker for example, that's where the skill really lies. The difference between your recreational player and like a semi competent player in Vegas is leaps and bounds farther away than people think it is. So there's a lot of money to be made here for real. Nice.
- [26:47]
B
In your opinion, Best hotel in Vegas.
- [26:50]
A
Vidara. Not close.
- [26:51]
B
Wow.
- [26:52]
A
Not close. They have like, it's right on the strip. You can get to everything. There's. There's a tram right outside, so you can literally, like, hop down the Strip very close. You get a kitchenette in your room. There's like a Starbucks in the lobby that never has anybody there. And you can walk inside to Cosmo or Bellagio for, like, the best food on the Strip. So, like, not close. Best place to stay. For sure. Yeah.
- [27:18]
B
You're the first person that said that. Hotel.
- [27:20]
A
They're dumb, actually, because. Sorry. But like, the comfort that you feel there and also that it's very high tech. You know what I mean? Like, they have buttons to, like, raise the blinds every morning. I feel like a. I feel like a. I don't know. I feel like a whale.
- [27:33]
B
It is a good area. Yeah. You're also next to Arya too.
- [27:36]
A
Exactly. Super close. You can go to Din Tai Fung. It's a good spot.
- [27:39]
B
Couch is pretty good.
- [27:40]
A
Javier's.
- [27:41]
B
Javier's is my favorite. Mexican.
- [27:42]
A
Yes. Lemongrass. Like, you can't miss. You can't miss.
- [27:46]
B
That'll be my next vacation.
- [27:47]
A
Yeah. You have to do it. For sure.
- [27:48]
B
Do it.
- [27:49]
A
Yeah, definitely.
- [27:50]
B
Well, what's next for you? You're driving to A.C. you said Austin.
- [27:53]
A
Yes. So I'm driving to Austin and then I'm flying to Atlantic City. We have the Borgata Poker Open in. In. Or sorry, the summer poker open at the Borgata. That's going to be a fun one. I'm really excited because I'm buying into, like, a really high stakes for me. Really high stakes heads up match, which I'm really excited about. It's like a 2k heads up match and I've never bet more than like a hundred dollars on my heads up matches before. So, like, I'm really excited about that one. Yeah. And then, like, next up is the. They have the Potomac Poker Open in D.C. so I get to go hang out with all my whales in Washington. Can't wait to see you guys.
- [28:32]
B
Can't wait to make money off you guys.
- [28:35]
A
I'm like the Bermuda Triangle of richness. It's gonna be great. They're like, wow, this girl sucks.
- [28:39]
B
But, well, we'll link your YouTube and thanks for coming on. That was.
- [28:42]
A
Sounds good. Thanks for having me.
- [28:43]
B
Yeah. Check her out, guys. See you next time. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests, and it helps us grow. The team truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting. And here's the episode.