
| DSH #2068 Modern relationships are changing fast, and most people are not ready for where intimacy technology is going. In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with intimacy expert Susan Bratton to discuss relationships, communication, adult wellness technology, long-distance connection, trust, emotional safety, performance anxiety, modern dating, and how couples can build better connection. Susan explains why many people struggle to talk openly about what they want, why honesty and trust are essential in relationships, and how technology is changing the way couples stay connected when they are apart. The conversation also covers AI-driven adult wellness tools, long-distance relationships, masculine and feminine energy, emotional expression, communication, confidence, stamina, and why real intimacy requires curiosity instead of ego. Later, Susan shares practical advice for men and women on how to build more trust, reduce pressure, communicate better, and cr...
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Well, I think the big. Probably the biggest issue is that women are pissed off. I mean, they're really pissed off with everything that's happening with the Epstein files. And just, like, woman in France whose husband drugged her, I think Net. Net. The exciting part of this next generation of sex tech is so interesting. And one of the things I say to women all the time is encourage your partner to masturbate. Encourage him to find his P spot. Get him a prostate massager. Get him a penis pump. Let him know you want him to do these things.
B
All right, guys, got a fun one for y' all today. A sexpert. I think the first sexpert I've had on the show, so I'm excited for this one. We got Susan joining us today. She just gave away a lot of sex toys and then came over here.
A
$20,000 worth of sex toys.
B
Wow. That's got to be a record.
A
Really fun. The women were. It was a kind of like a midlife women's show, a Chalene Johnson's event here in Vegas. And I talked to all my vendors, and I was like, hey, send me some things. And they were so generous that I had boxes and boxes and boxes of giveaways. And it was really fun because I basically gave the women all these great new sex techniques and ideas. And then with each one, I was like, and here's a thing that will really help you with that. And here's a thing that will really help you with that. And they were dancing. Dancing and jumping around on the tables to win things. It was so much fun.
B
I love that.
A
Yeah, the energy was incredible.
B
Yeah, I love. I've seen a few of your pods. You give really tactical advice that you can implement right away, which I like, you know, to improve your sex life or whatever else. Right.
A
Yeah. Well, when your producer called me and said, come on the show, I was like, we're actually a really good fit, because that's what you do, too. We're both around. We're both kind of like performance optimizers. I just do it in pleasure. You do it across everything.
B
Yeah, well, pleasure. A lot of. A lot of guys need help in that department, so it's needed.
A
Yeah.
B
So I can't wait to dive into it with you. What are the biggest issues you're seeing right now with guys in terms of pleasure?
A
Well, I think the big. Probably the biggest issue is that women are pissed off. I mean, they're really pissed off with everything that's happening with the Epstein files. And just, like, gen. That the. The woman In France, whose husband drugged her and had like, 87 men have sex with her while she was.
B
I didn't see that.
A
Yeah, her name's like, Giselle Pellico or something like that. And now women just kind of all talking on social media with each other and communing and being like, this is bullshit. We don't like any of this stuff. We're swearing off a man, you know, so you hear all of that and then you hear the. You know, the, like, kids aren't having sex anymore. You know, there's no.
B
Nobody.
A
And it's like, what's going on with sex? Is anybody having sex? And then of course, there's AI, and it's like, AI is going to take over our lives and we're going to have, like, fembots. AI fembots. And men aren't going to want to have sex anymore. And we were like, fine, let them take the fembots. I don't even want that, you know? So it's just like, whoa. There's like a lot of crazy stuff going on. And underneath all of it, everybody wants love, connection, hot sex, incredible orgasms. So there's a lot of froth. But there's still the coffee, right? The coffee is, I want love. I want connection. I want to. I want to give incredible pleasure. I want to receive incredible pleasure. How do I get there? How do I get there in this crazy time we're living in?
B
Yeah. Wow, that was. That was a lot there. Yeah.
A
Could you handle it? I'm not. I'm not too much, am I?
B
Yeah, no, I love. I love it. I love it. I try to, like.
A
I like a lot of encouragement.
B
Yeah.
A
So you got to encourage through this whole show.
B
That's your love language. Words of affirmation.
A
I don't like love languages. I think they're kind of. Here's why. The first thing is that people, when they hear about the five love languages, they're like, okay, well, my love language is blah, blah, blah, gifts, words of. Words of appreciation, whatever it is. And it's like, no, I want all da tings. Give me all da tings. I want all five, all the time, steady state, just pour it on me. I like it all, and I think everyone does. Another thing I don't like is praise. Kink. No, praise is not a kink. A kink is a small group of people across a whole spectrum of humanity that, like a certain weird thing, the whole spectrum of humanity if. If not have a ha. If you haven't had some trauma around it.
B
Yeah.
A
Would like to have praise ador. Now, the interesting thing is that generally, and this is kind of like nature and nurture, you want to make a woman happy, encourage her and adore her. You want to make a man happy, show him he's a winner that you respect. And of course, everything I say is always across that spectrum. You know, with the big bell curve. We are as humans, as homo sapiens, but generally, that's a good rule of thumb. Thumb is that worship and adoration. And I like. As a matter of fact, I was telling you, I went to this midlife women's event, and I was doing I'm the sex lady. And I did the sex talk. And one of the things I talked about, they had me do the VIP area party, and I did a little talk at the vip, like, off the main stage later that night and what they want. At first, she called me and she's like, I want you to talk about how to give a really good blow job. Teach my VIPs, my queens and my royals how to give a really good. And then she was like, no, no, scratch that. How do we get our partners to go down on us really well. And so I was talking at that event, and I was saying that one of the things that really helps me get out of my head and into my body to begin to climb my arousal ladder is holding and being held, being able to connect with my partner before we even begin thinking about lovemaking. But also, I like him to give me a yoni massage and tell me what he loves about me. And I always want him to come up with new things. So I have this little game I've taught it to millions of people called three things I love about you. And women really love to have their partners tell them three things and to come up with new stuff all the time. And for some reason, that adoration, that appreciation, that encouragement, that we're. I'm on the right track. I'm smart, I'm beautiful, I'm sexy, I'm desired. I'm wanted from my husband of 34 years, who I know loves, loves me so much, but I still need to hear it. And it helps me get into my turn on it helps me relax, let my guard down. So. So I do think the five love languages are, you know, they're a great start. But I like something called relationship values. Because, number one, words of appreciation and encouragement are not a kink. It's praise. We all need it. Number two, the five love languages, we need them all. We don't necessarily. If you don't like one of them, maybe rethink it and how you'd like to have it. But what I think is even beyond that, like, the, like the ninja level relationship thing, is understanding your partner's relationship values. This would be interesting to do since you're newly married as well. You've been together eight years, but you're newly married. And that is definitely. There's a. There's a different flavor.
B
It feels a little different. Yeah.
A
Yeah. It feels like it's gonna last a long time. Right. You wanna do a really good job. And your wife, what's her name?
B
Arielle.
A
Arielle. Beautiful name. Arielle wants different things from you than you want from her.
B
Yeah.
A
Because she's a woman. She's been brought up in a womanly way. She has a woman's brain. She has estrogen dominance. It makes us difference. The nature nurture makes us different. And we want different things from you than you want from us. So what you want from her is going to be a different list. And once you understand what it is you want most out of your relationship with her and what she wants from you, and then she tells you what it is and how she can experience that, and you do the same for her, then you get up every day and you kind of just focus on giving her what she wants and not guessing. Like, guessing isn't. You just can't win. You know, you'll get some of them right, but. And it changes. But values are a pretty fundamental thing that don't really change over time. They form when you're young due to all sorts of factors, and they stay pretty steady. So once you figure out what hers are, and I'll give you an example of them, so you can kind of be like, okay, I see what you're going for. My relationship value, my number one relationship value is safety and security. I want my guy to protect me and keep me safe physically, mentally, emotionally. He's got me. He's got his eye on me. He's gonna keep me safe because I didn't grow up as a child feeling safe. But my second one is freedom.
B
Interesting.
A
I want you to totally take care of me and let me go do whatever I want. I need to. I have my own head.
B
Yeah.
A
And my husband's an introvert and I'm an extrovert. And so he likes to ride my ride, but not all the time. Sometimes he just needs to go into his 53 monitor man cave and be left alone. So he does those things for me. And then I. I like Honesty. Honesty is really important to me because it keeps me feeling safe. There's nothing you can't tell me. I can handle the truth about everything. And that's what I want. I want unfiltered. I don't even like to hang around friends where I have to filter myself to worry about hurting their feelings or not being who I am. I just want to be full out. Susan Bratton. 110% Sassy Bratton all the way home.
B
That's in my top three. I think it might be.
A
I really love it. And then for me, passion is my fourth. And then I have a fifth, which is novelty, variety, fun, which freedom kind of supports for me as well. But I am not a retreader. I don't look back. I look forward. And I feel really lucky to be able to do that. I like to have new adventures, new trysts with life. I don't want to go to the same place I went before. It's very unusual for me to ever watch a movie again or go to a restaurant twice or what have you.
B
Wow.
A
I like to try new things. That's one of the fun things about my sex life bucket list, which is it always has new things on it.
B
Sean. New sex position, even 34 years in New sex spots and things like that.
A
I'm always thinking of new things I want to try, especially in AI. That's what I've been really into. And I know we're going to talk about that on the show.
B
Okay.
A
Sex tech is so interesting right now, the things that are happening. So.
B
Okay, yeah, let's dive into that. Because I thought you have the opposite point of view on AI. I thought you'd be against it, but it sounds like you're using it.
A
I am.
B
Okay.
A
I'm using it so well.
B
Really?
A
Yeah.
B
Because I know some people are against it with the sex robots and the AI stuff. I get AI ads, but. So you're finding a benefit in using AI.
A
Wanna just go, let's go right there. So the AI is very interesting. There are things that are gonna be dangerous for people right there. There's. They're gonna be privacy breaches because apps are collecting data. There are going to be people who get addicted to it. Just like there are people who got addicted to regular, if you will, 1.0. So yeah, there's, there's all of that. But I think Net Net, the exciting part of this next generation of sex tech is so interesting. I literally had a brand new kind of orgasm I've never had from a sex tech.
B
No way.
A
I'll tell you about it. And what's interesting about it is that I don't know if you know this about me. Do you know that I call myself the Orgasmonaut?
B
I actually didn't.
A
I am. I go to out into outer space wearing, of course, a super sexy silver Lemay jumpsuit. Right. Like, I mean, I got to have that sexy costume. And I have all different kinds of orgasms. I have been systematically, chronically chronicling our orgasmic human potential and making lists of all of the kinds of orgasms the body can have. There's three kinds of orgasms, three categories. There's over 20 kinds of orgasms, but there's three categories of orgasm. The first kind is locations to touch. So touch the clitoris, you know, vaginal orgasms and breast, breasts, throat gasms, core gasms, footgasms, eargasms, you know, all of these kinds of things. You could think about those as like erogenous zones. So there's places to touch and then there's techniques to use. A really interesting one that I love is erotic hypnosis, where I can make you come on command. Right? So it's using NLP and hypnosis to put you into a theta brainwave state and give you orgasms. And what's interesting about that is that ecstatic bliss states and states of orgasm are theta. They're theta brainwave states, just like meditation is a theta brainwave state. So that's really interesting. So there's female ejaculation, there's male multiple orgasm, there's expanded orgasms. There's specific techniques that put you into specific states that elicit orgasm. And usually they have a form very similar to martial arts, where you follow the form, you get the effect. Right. Really common thing. So there's that, and then the third are objects of desire and objects of desire. I just gave out 20,000 objects of $20,000 worth of objects of desire two days ago.
B
Right?
A
Yeah. Pleasure tools could be anything from latex to electrostim to candle wax to lingerie to sex toys of all kinds. And so those are the three basic axes of orgasm. And then outflowing from that are many different types of orgasm.
B
Yeah. What was the new one? You said you got it from? AI Tech?
A
Yes. So for AI, the interesting thing that I've been working at is in this particular case, what I was doing was a synchronized sex toy session. So there are these different categories of sex tech. One of them is teledildonics, which is remote sex.
B
I've seen those. The Vibrator, Right. You pull up an app and then you could control it.
A
That's a, that's a very simple early version of it. It's much, there's a lot more interesting things coming out. Now that, that's a fun one.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, put in a panty vibrator, take me out on a date to me, give me orgasms while we have some martinis. Take me home, let's have some hot sex. Super fun. Right. You've got the app, I've got the panty vibrator. Right. I mean that's just really fun. But the, the, the orgasm that I had was it, it was parallel play in bed where we were using haptics devices. I'm going to give you some terminology, some AI sextech terminology. Haptics is where what's happening to you can, what's happening to you. I can feel. Wow. So that came out of the cam world. Right. So you know, anything from. I pay for tokens and coins that will make the vibrator she has inside her go off and give her orgasms. And I'll watch her come to. If she's going down on this, you know, dildo style vibrator then. And I have a device on my end, a stroker. I can feel, feel what she's doing to me. So that's another type of sex tech that's called telodildonics. And the haptics is the feeling part of that. And the orgasm that I had was we were lying side by side. My partner had this stroker. It's called a Kion device. It's an automated stroker that you can put basically like a fleshlight, they call them feel stars. The feel star in there. And it stroked his penis. Well, I had a vibrator inside me that when it was stroking him, I was feeling the strokes that were happening to him inside me. And the reason it was different was that it was two things. The first thing was that over time I have, I have activated my vaginal cavern, my vaginal pocket. I don't like to call it a canal cause it's not an inside out penis. People think about a canal as like a tube. And so then they get that visualization that a vagina is a tube and it's not. It's actually like a pocket that's flat until you put something in it.
B
Interesting, right? Okay.
A
It's just flat in there and it's more like a cave because it tents up when you get turned on. But the vagina, the skin of the Vagina is called the vaginal mucosal lining. And it. It likes and receives pleasure, but it's actually like beyond the. The lining to all of the tissue around the cavern that gets activated and stimulated and becomes really orgasmic. And so over time, because I started out, the reason I turned into a sexpert is because I was married to my husband for 12 years and never had an orgasm. What? And I. I was like, giving him duty booty and mercy sex. And we. He was having an affair to get his needs met, and we were just, like, platonic and really disconnected from each other because I was just avoiding him for sex because it wasn't pleasurable for me. It was like I didn't want to be a masturbatory experience for him. And it just. We just didn't know what we were doing, which most people don't. And what was interesting was that we just decided to learn how. Like, we believed it was possible to learn how. And what we realized was, oh, okay. Yeah. There's a number of things that you really need to know to have wildly orgasmic intercourse. And so I've been activating my genital structures for decades. And one of the things that I've done is I've really activated all that tissue inside me. So when I had that toy in me and my partner was operating the stroking mechanism to his pleasure, and I was feeling what he was doing to his penis directly inside me, and it was backward. It was like what he was doing to the tip of his penis was actually happening way up inside me at the tip of the device.
B
Oh, wow.
A
And so I was getting all this pleasure up in the back, kind of like the far reaches of the cavern. And I came in a way that I'd never come before. It triggered some new sensations. So one of the things that I love about sex tech, look how I bring things back. That's the newts we were talking about. You and I were talking nootropics this morning.
B
Yep. Shout out to zero in.
A
Shout out to zero in. Yeah, we were just talking about how much we like that. Yeah. So I had that orgasm, and I was like, that's amazing. And then we started having remote sex where we were doing those exact experiments and using the app and videoing each other, and he was controlling my pleasure remotely. And we've had the hottest and fun because when I'm traveling, it's fun to have hot remote sex dates together. So this is AI Sex tech. It's haptics, teledildonics, it's app Driven. It's video sex. It's all those things. And that's only one kind of AI sex tech. There are other others that are just as interesting.
B
That is fascinating. So long distance relationships might be able to work now.
A
Yes.
B
With stuff like this.
A
And you know, one of the things that's changing about our culture is I, I went to a party in Miami, I want to say, six months ago. I went to a party and it was like a table, quite big, like this table. And we were all sitting around and everyone was introducing themselves and saying where they lived. And I couldn't believe how many people lived in multiple locations. Now people are living in multiple locations. I have a place in Dubai, I have a place in Bal. I have a place in Manhattan, I have a place in San Moritz, whatever. I'm like, oh, wow, this is great. But yeah, they've got relationships in multiple locations too.
B
Wow.
A
And they want to maintain those relationships and just, you know, phone sex, talking sex. That's one thing if you're verbal and you're dirty, you know, but not everybody's both of those things. And so actually having these tools that connect you, there's two things about it. One, you got to learn how to do it together. So you begin as beginners together, which keeps your new relationship energy high. Like when you hit that monotony of monogamy, it's time to start doing some new things. Like the same old same O does not scale.
B
Yeah.
A
So it gives you that high of the new relationship energy and you get to kind of be on level playing field where nobody's really like done this before.
B
It's exciting.
A
It's exciting. It's really exciting.
B
Yeah. That's what a lot of long term relationships and marriages need.
A
I think definitely it's. This is a very standard thing that you'll hear from Sexperts. Dawsey Easton taught it to most of us. And that is that you need a combination of trust and safety, which is a very important thing for men who want to get invited back on the next date. Need to understand is if we don't feel safe, we can't relax and we can't begin to get aroused. Now there are some people on the edges of the bell curve who they love danger. They don't. They're risky behavior. But that's not the. I'm always talking to the, the large group in the middle, the most of us. So trust and safety. But if you don't have variety and novelty, then you get bored and then everything is like. And then you're out.
B
Yes, you need to provide that safety, but you also have to spice it up.
A
Spice it up.
B
Right.
A
Can't do the same old same sex life bucket list. And you gotta work the list. You gotta be constantly think about new things you want to do and try. I want to learn expanded orgasm. I want to become a multi orgasmic man. I want to try sex tech. I want to learn female ejaculation. I want to do a yoni massage, a lingam massage. I want to try new sex positions. I want to have physician. I want to have sex in new locations. I want to do fo, you know, sexy photo shoots. I want to film us and we can watch it later. Like, it's an endless list of what I like to call erotic play dates. And when you have a list of those, when you've got your sexual life and you. What's nice is I actually have. I put together 48 erotic play dates at sex lifebucketlist.com and I did a video. It's free, it's just a download and it gives you all these ideas and if you watch it with Ariel and you get the little printout and you mark them a, B and C. Oh, that's an A for me. I definitely would do that with you. A B is. Oh, I wouldn't do it. It's not my thing. But if you want to have a peace about orgasm, I'm game to try that.
B
A piece of orgasm.
A
P spot. Your prostate.
B
Prostate. Wow.
A
Yeah. When we talk.
B
Oh, for me you're saying.
A
I'm saying for you.
B
Yeah, yeah. Because the G spot's in the prostate. Right?
A
Right. It's basically your male G spot. Exactly. And what's good about P spot orgasms is that, you know, one of the number one things guys end up having a problem with is their prostate as they age. Right. They've got urinary incontinence, bph. They've got all these different problems. And stimulating the prostate brings in blood flow, which brings in healing factors, which keeps your prostate healthier while you're having even more pleasurable and explosive orgasms.
B
Wow. That's the pitch, guys. You heard it here. Tell your girls.
A
And I really like prostate massagers. And you know, like for a man to have a prostate massager in him while he's making love, that's a really nice pleasurable experience and healthy. It helps him stay harder, longer over time, as he ages.
B
Wow.
A
Yes.
B
That's a hack. So there's devices that you just plug in there and massages you yes.
A
Yeah. And it was funny, too. I was walking out of a. I was skiing in Europe and I was walking out of a restaurant, and my husband said, oh, I just heard that whole table of men talking about prostate massagers. And I was like, finally, it's happening. Like it's in the zeitgeist now because. And one of the things I say to women all the time is encourage your partner to masturbate. Encourage him to find his pee spot, get him a prostate massager, get him a penis pump. Let him know you want him to do these things because they help him keep atrophy at bay, keep his firmness hard, keep the blood flow good, keep his prostate healthy, help him live longer, stay firmer and harder. And he can continue to use that penis pump not just to keep atrophy at bay, but to do penis enlargement so he can get a thicker, longer, firmer penis using the right pump in the right way. And so I'm really trying to get partners to kind of support each other solo pleasuring as well as their mutual togetherness.
B
Yeah, that's an interesting take, because a lot of females and males, I think, don't want their partners to masturbate.
A
It's shame. Yeah, it's control. Shame and repression. And that's what I'm here to push you through so you can get to the other side and have really hot sex that keeps getting better for the rest of your Life. I'll be 65 in a couple of months. I am having the best sex, the best orgasms. I am. And I. I just really love to relax and take my pleasure with myself, with my partner. I love all of that.
B
Yeah, that's impressive because you didn't have an orgasm for 12 years.
A
You said I'm making up for lost time, Sean.
B
12 years. That is. That's a long time.
A
Oh, I know. Well, I had orgasms. I could have an orgasm with a vibrator on my clitoris, but I couldn't have a vaginal orgasm. Penetration in intercourse. Right. And so that's why I think, you know, I've written like, I don't know, maybe. Maybe by this time, a thousand sex techniques.
B
Wow.
A
Right? I. What my. What I do. I'm not a therapist. I don't sit in an office and work on trauma healing. I'm the. I'm the plus up. I'm like the. Here are the things to do that will work really well for you. Here's how to have really hot sex. That doesn't look like that is non performative that is not male oriented. That is equal. So you know how, you know how we're kind of women are railing against the patriarchy right now?
B
Yeah, 100%.
A
And I understand that it's, it's, it hasn't been good for us. But the answer isn't matriarchy. And I see that a lot. I see that theme. You know, we're going to go make matriarchy now. And I'm like, here's a word I learned from a friend of mine, Devashi Shakti. She said, I like the word synerche. And I had always thought about moving from patriarchy to just togetherness, you know, And I don't even like polarity anymore because I don't like the idea that you only get to have the masculine traits and I only get to have the feminine traits. I want you to cry. I want you to feel things deeply. I want you to be soft, and I want you to be all of the things that you've been taught to be. I want to be the bomb ass bitch I am whenever I want to be and feel like it. I want to be as masculine. See, I've got two companies. It's not even girl boss. Girl boss is acting like a man, taking the man's way of doing things. Mine is just, how do you. How what do I do? How am I strong, how am I invincible, how am I badass in my own way? And I want to also be completely feminine when that's what I want. I want to be all the things I like to say, all the tinks. And I want everyone to be all the tinks. And that's to me, what we move from when we move from polarity into synergy. And so how can we all develop our. All of the range of our lived experience and expression in the bedroom and out?
B
Yeah. So it's like a switch, like you turn on and off.
A
Well, I think it actually goes this way. This is what I've been currently. This is the escalation model, the ascension model. And it goes from. And this was my ascension model. Your mileage may vary, but generally I'd say women. This would be a common ascension model for us. Which would be. First we have to learn how to. And this is sexually. Yeah, first we have to learn how to stay in our body. We have to learn how to actually be present to pleasure. Because we've been so repressed, so shamed, so abused, so devoid of education and sexual knowledge, lack of sexual literacy. The only thing anybody's ever seen is very male. Oriented, not female oriented. We don't even know what we want. And we leave our bodies. We've got body image issues. We've had shame around our vaginas and our vulvas. We, you know, we have all this stuff. Yeah. So first thing is we have to learn how to stay present to pleasure. Men need to learn this too, because men suffer from a lot of performance anxiety. Because in. In our culture, we teach men that they have to do a good job or they're a loser.
B
Right. They gotta last long, they gotta do
A
everything perfect or they're a loser and they do not want to be a loser. That's the kiss of death for a guy. So they have. They get all up in their head and they get worried about things. So performance anxiety is men's number one issue too, but women suffer from it as well. And so we learn how to stay in our pleasure, ride our sensation, become more orgasmic, open our hearts, feel safe. Then we learn some sex skills, and then we get a little more confidence in ourselves. And then we can be like, I'm sorry, Sean, today you're just going to have to lie down and I'm just going to have to take my pleasure on you, and you're just going to have to surrender because I am a lioness today and I am going to take my pleasure, you know? And so we want to learn how to run the bed. That's the ma. What we would have considered in the old days of the masculine. Right? We're running it, but it's not. We can run. We know what we want after a while. We want to ask for the things we like. We've got ideas, right? And so if you say to a guy, you know, I really, really, you know, I. What I would love to do today is I'd love to have you lie down beside me and I'd love to have a yoni massage and I'd love to kiss. And, you know, then it would be really fun to do 69. And then I'd love you to fuck me up against that window. That look, that would be really fun. I would like to look out over LA and have you fuck me against that window. And if he goes, you don't have to tell me what to do. I know what to do. Oh, God, dude, you just missed this huge opportunity to give that woman everything she just asked for and to add some ideas of your own to the pot, Right? But to just be like, you don't have to tell me because he wants to run the game.
B
That's ego. Right.
A
It's. It's just. It's.
B
Yeah.
A
It's not. In a way, it's almost self protection. It's egoic self protection, and I understand it, but it's like a what not to do. So when you're with a woman who knows what she wants, celebrated, it took her a lot to get there. You know what my husband does that I absolutely love, that I think is so hot in any situation. He's like, is that all you got? You got any more? Give it to me. I want it. Tell me whether I'm raging, coming, whatever I'm doing, anything. Crying, anything. He's like, is there more? Cause I can take it. I got you. That's my security.
B
That's a good one.
A
That's my man with his security. And you have to imagine, for most of us women, we are the prey walking around here. We're not the predators. The men are the predators. We have certainly seen that. We're well aware of it. One of the things estrogen dominance does for us is it gives us those eyes in the back of our head so we can see the creepers stalking us, which is why we're so good at multitasking, because we have to watch our safety, which is why trust and safety is the thing you can give her and then encourage her to just tell you everything. You like that because you like honesty? I do. A man who likes honesty is a safe man. That's a nice feature.
B
Yeah. Yeah. I've noticed with a lot of women I talk to, trust and safety is, like, up there.
A
That's huge.
B
I think it's a biological thing, right?
A
Yeah. So on this escalation, this ascension model of our sexual evolution, our sexual maturation, where things keep getting better over time, you go from. Yeah. As a woman. Demure. To a little bit. You go from a kitty cat to a tigress. Right. And then you're pretty comfortable being switchy. You can just start to flow. And I like that because it's like. I call it having a dope flow sex date. Those are. That's my term for we're just gonna melt in together and we're just gonna roll with whatever we feel like doing in the moment. We're gonna let our bodies do the talking. We're gonna listen to what desires come up, and we're gonna throw out ideas and we're gonna be like, yeah, that sounds good right now. Yeah, let's do that next. Let's do that next. Then you move from there. Being able to go from Complete surrender to completely running and back and forth and back and forth. You go into more of a like bliss state. Ecstatic pleasure where you are so connected that I don't know where your orgasms start and mine end. You're just like. You just ignite together when you get together. It just. You're just so good in bed that you're just in this zone of genius, brilliance, connection. And then the next state after that is a state that is really why sex is suppressed. And that is a state of connecting, to choose your word, Source, God, Gaia, any of those things. Consciousness, whatever it might be. There is a path through sexuality, often practiced by the tantric masters, but available to us regular dudes and their ladies. And that is the state of connection to source, where you actually feel how you and I are one, how we are all one. All of us are. We're all in this together. We are a hive mind. We are a consciousness. And when you get to that point, it's an incredible experience. The expanded orgasm practice that I've been doing with my husband for probably 25 years now.
B
Wow.
A
It's a clitoral stroking technique. I. That's where I go. That's where we go to. We go to God together. Not religious, but it is a. I call it source or consciousness or Gaia. I like those words.
B
That's an out of body experience.
A
It is a feeling, a palpable feeling of our connection to each other, to all people, to all living things, all consciousness, all human. And I honestly feel like it's all. It also includes, includes the animal kingdom because I mean, we're finding out how sentient animals.
B
Yeah, they have souls.
A
We know they have souls. We, they, everything does. So. Yeah, that's another word, soul. The soul connection. The soul experience where you can really like holy man. I feel it now. Like there's no question that we're all one.
B
Yeah, yeah. That's the tantric stuff where you're able to control your orgasm, right?
A
Yes.
B
Like you don't actually, as a man, you don't actually ejaculate, but you still experience the pleasure.
A
Yes. That's a full body male, male orgasm. A male energy orgasm. And that's available to all men. You know the 20 plus kinds of orgasms I was talking about early in the show. That's not women, that's humans.
B
Oh, really?
A
Homo sapien.
B
That's us Cuban guys.
A
Yes. You can have nipplegasms, you can have anal gasms, you can have prostate pee spotgasms, you can have throatgasms. Kissing gasms. You can have all the same gasms. I had a boyfriend once, and he loved me to stick my tongue in his ear and it would make him have orgasms. Whoa. It was so fun. And he had the cleanest ears of any man. There were. There was not a whiff of earwax in those ears, believe me. He had it ready for my tongue, you know? And it was fun. It was really sexy. It was very hot.
B
Wow. That's a new one. I've heard of neckgasm and breast chasm.
A
Yes, exactly.
B
Eargasm is a new one. Wow.
A
Yeah. We are highly erogenous. And honestly, it's. It's mindset. And your show is so much about mindset. And so this is sexual mindset we're talking about here. You can just start coming in so many ways. And the more you come, the more it makes me come, right?
B
Yeah.
A
Like that's. That orgasmic energy is transferable. That's why you like to watch women come on, Right? Because it makes you turned on. It amplifies everything. So here's another tip for your guys to get. That second sex date is number one. We talked about really being present, being able to listen to anything, hear anything, ask them and say to them directly. I want you to be able to tell me anything. I want you to be really comfortable with me. There's nothing you can say to me that's gonna upset me. I got you here. I wanna know how you like your pleasure. I wanna give you what you want. If anything's too hard, too soft, you want me to stop? You need a break. You're thirsty. You want me to try something new? Lay it on me. I'm here. I'm here with you. I don't know, but I want to. And then every time she takes that courage because she has been shut down over and over and over and over again. Same shut down, little lady, Right the minute you go, thank you. And a lot of guys have a hard time with this. When I teach this to women, like how to get your guy to love your feedback and not take it as failure, which you do because you're taught in this pecking order, right? Where if you make one little mistake, you're a loser. And so if she gives you feedback, you're a loser.
B
No,
A
switch it. The mindset is tell me everything. You're doing me a favor. Favor. You're making me the winner. I want to be. And when you say thank you to her and you say to her, you don't need to say please. To me, you just yell it out, mama. Just tell me anything, anytime. I got you. Don't use your manners. But I'm going to thank you because you're doing me the favor and I appreciate and respect you. Oh my God. She's literally never heard that in her life.
B
Yeah, yeah. A lot of people don't communicate this, right? No, they're ashamed to or scared to open up.
A
Here's another tip for your guys. Moaning. The guys are so, they're so furtive and silent and they're just trying to do us. And ah, now we feel the pressure to come for you because now it's like so important that you give us this incredible pleasure. So you feel good about yourself, but you're not having fun. So when that guy is moaning and he's got his face buried in you and, and he's just like really enjoying himself and thanking you and that is, that is, that's masculine sexual leadership.
B
Really.
A
It's the opposite of what I think guys think. I think they think that's going to make them look vulnerable or like needy or something. It's the opposite. That's where they're gracious and thankful and appreciative and supportive.
B
Yeah, that's a good tick. Good trick to know moaning, huh? Let it out.
A
Moan.
B
Okay. Do you have a lot of girls telling you their guys aren't lasting long in bed?
A
Yes. It's probably the number one issue that men are concerned about. And you know, a lot of people call it premature ejaculation. Some people understand that it's performance anxiety. And you know, even at this conference, a lot of women came up to me and they were like, my husband doesn't last long enough for me to come that way and I'd really like to help him. What can I do? It was about a 5050 mix of he's not hard enough anymore to penetrate me with. He comes so fast. But then there were another third. I would say it was more like 3. 3. 3. Third of them were like, my husband will do anything to get me off. He is so down. Like, I made a list of all those sex toys I want and he already ordered them. You know, that's good, Elise, really good.
B
So light at the end of the tunnel.
A
Definitely. And with not being able to last long enough, there's a couple of techniques. One of them is learning how to become a multi orgasmic man. Learning how to last as long as she wants until she's begging you to come. And I have a technique that I've taught. I publish passionate lovemaking techniques. I've published 44 books and programs over the last two decades.
B
Wow.
A
10 of them are the work of my. My mentors. The rest are my books. 34 books and programs on my own, I think it's 35. I just launched another one. It's called the Alchemy of the Alchemy of Intimacy. And in the techniques that I've written, Jim Benson has really helped me teach thousands and thousands and thousands of men something called the me breath. And this is@stallionsecret.com I always like to say where you can find these things, because people are like, she talked about them. I don't know how to get to it.
B
That's smart.
A
Stallionsecret.com and what's interesting about the me breath is that it stands for mucho estasio much ecstasy. It's an ecstatic breath, and it comes from the ancient Taoist practices of semen retention. But it's not oriented towards semen retention. It's just, don't ejaculate till you want to. So it's more like that than semen retention.
B
Got it.
A
And it helps you go from coming too fast to being able to come when you want to, to being able to have full body energy orgasms. That's the pathway. And it's a combination of three things. It's a certain type of a squeezing of your pelvic musculature. It's a certain type of a breath at a specific time when you get close to ejaculating and you don't want to yet. And it's a pelvic rocking position. And what's cool about it is that that pelvic rock feels fantastic to a vagina. And so women love it when you do this. They can't really even tell you're doing it. So you can learn it during your solo pleasuring and then apply it during your lovemaking. And you can learn and train your body to last as long as you want. Most men have premature, quote, unquote, premature ejaculation because they've masturbated furtively and quickly, because masturbation is so, you know, frowned upon, which is so dumb. It's so healthy for you. Come as much as you want, as long as you don't feel depleted. Come every day. Come a couple times a day if it's what you need right now. And it changes as you age and, you know, through your lifetime. But the me breath is that real, really nice technique that gives men that confidence for unlimited everlasting stamina. And, boy, that changes things. And then I teach them a technique they can do for intercourse called thrust in time. And it is a technique that solves the two biggest problems with intercourse. He comes too fast. She doesn't come. Not even because he comes too fast. She's just not coming from intercourse. They're both just learned skills. You train your body and it comes. All bodies can do all these things. Every body, every female body can come from intercourse. Every male body can have this stamina once you teach yourself how to do it. And it works with, you know, pleasuring yourself to the point of no return and learning how to back off of it and doing that. The edging over time, that's a part of it, but the squeeze, the breathe and the thrust. And it's kind of like a golf swing.
B
Yeah.
A
Or learning how to drive a car. You know, when you first learn how to drive a car, you've got to, like, gas and brake and steer and look out the front and the rearview mirror, and you're like, that's a lot of things. You know, that's all the things. But once you do it, it's second nature. It's just muscle memory. And that's how the me breath is. You can practice it during sex. And the way you do it is. It's really an ancient Taoist practice that I've kind of modernized for today's man and woman and the way that it works. And it also works for gay men as well. I mean, it's anybody who wants more stamina. And what's great about it is that it's a ten count, and it's shallow strokes and deep strokes in a 10 count. And I can't wait until I create. And I'm on the board of a new company called Adaptable Intelligence. They're here in Las Vegas, and they have generative AI video that can do explicit content.
B
Oh, that's great.
A
And I am creating a series of sex techniques where you can actually use these haptics devices. You can put your penis in that sleeve, and the kion system will stroke you in strokes exactly how I want you to do it when you put it inside your wife or girlfriend.
B
That's so cool.
A
So you can feel it. Because when I tell you, when I tell guys, they still do it too fast. They still don't quite do it right. And so when I can get to haptics technique teaching, I'm super psyched about that. This is like, where AI is going.
B
That's exciting.
A
I love it. And So I love it because these OnlyFans creators are going to have a platform for generating fantasy content that they've never created before that they can now do with generative explicit video. And I, as a sexpert, can do it teaching you passionate lovemaking techniques. Like, the world of what sex is gonna be for us is going to just be change so much, it's gonna explode. So the ten count is you start with nine shallow strokes. One deep stroke, and they're very slow. This is not the pounding thing. This is not the jackhammer thing. This is like, go the whole other direction.
B
Okay.
A
And then you do eight shallow strokes and two deep strokes. And then you do seven and three, six and four, five and five. By the time you get to five and five or four and five, she's probably going to potentially have the first orgasm she's had from intercourse in her whole life.
B
Really?
A
Because what it's doing here's the science behind it. Look, he's like.
B
Sean's, like, taking notes on. You said nine shallow.
A
Well, here it is. It's@ Thrustintime.com. it's a free download. It's a little PDF, and it gives you all the directions, the sex positions. You can try how it works, why it works. So it's just. You just go 9 and 1, 8 and 2, like that. You do the shallow and the nice, deep, long, beautiful strokes.
B
Got it.
A
And the reason that it works is that if you wanna cum better or cum at all, you know how we have a sympathetic and a parasympathetic nervous system when you toggle between the two, when I give you a little bit and then I pause for a beat, you reach for it. You want more. What feels so good. And though if you do those long, deep, slow strokes, if you bring your heart into your man cannon and she can feel your heart, and you've got your heart, and you're bringing your heart all the way into her. And then you go back and you just do a couple of those little shallow strokes. And then you give her two more long strokes. She's gonna want three, and then she's gonna want more. And then she's like, oh, my God, it's so good. You know? And then she's like, oh, she's gonna love it so much. I hope you'll go home and try this.
B
I can't wait to try it all.
A
Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah. Thrust in time. That helps you last longer. Well, not you specifically, but it helps your guy last longer because he's got a Count to it in his head. So he's, you know, not fully present yet, but he's doing this till he gets muscle memory, till he's just naturally giving her the deep and the shallow strokes that she's looking for. That's just one of my many orgasmic intercourse techniques. Because everything men have ever seen is for penis pleasure.
B
Yeah.
A
And we've never seen vagina pleasure techniques. And that's what I like to teach. Because they feel just as good to your penis. You know, it's not like you're losing anything. You're. It's all gain. It's a hundred percent plus up when you learn the heart, tongue, and glissando. And I've got all these great fun techniques like that. Just put those 10 techniques on your sex life bucket list and start there. I mean, that's great, right? But then there's the whole world of oral pleasuring. Right. Oh, my God. There's so. I have been having the most incredible 69 lately. Like, I'm always. I'm always pbing in my sex life. Like, I'm always hitting another personal best. I'm always beyond categorying. Like, I didn't even know that was a thing like that. Like that AI orgasm I had. Right. Yeah.
B
That's impossible.
A
And so, I mean, just like, just getting so good at oral together. Both of you individually and then together. 69s. I am. I am, like, seeing God in my 69 right now. It's incredible. It is just incredible.
B
We'll save that one for the next episode.
A
Oh, good. That sounds.
B
Part two will be oral. Guys.
A
Let's do it. I love that.
B
I gotta get my tongue tied. Cut.
A
Oh, okay.
B
I think that's. I think that's holding me back.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
All right. Well. Okay. I don't know. I don't know enough about the tongue.
B
So, like, my tongue is tied to the bottom.
A
Yeah.
B
So I don't have full range of motion.
A
Yeah. You know, can you pull it and stretch it?
B
Like, this is as far as it goes.
A
That's plenty.
B
You think that's enough?
A
You could send me to God doing that.
B
Really?
A
Yeah. And I wouldn't cut it.
B
I thought you need the full thing.
A
Oh, no, I think you are good. Wow, you got plenty of tongues.
B
Well, I wasn't going to do it just for that, but. But that was. My dentist told me to do it.
A
I don't know. I. I'd sit on that. Now I'm wearing my mom hat.
B
Yeah.
A
And I'd sit on that.
B
Okay.
A
I'd Wait, why don't you do a whole bunch of oral sex and then see if you still want to do it?
B
That makes sense.
A
Honestly, a whole bunch of oral sex, slit testing. When there's a good innuendo, I gotta go for it. Sean, come on.
B
I love that. I was smooth. That was smooth. I'll give you that one. Wow. We're almost an hour in. Susan, this was great. Anything else you got?
A
Yeah. I want to finish off with female AI sex tech.
B
Let's do it.
A
Because we've talked a lot about the male pleasure, like the Stroker and things like that, but there is a company that I'm really enjoying right now. One of my funny little ideas I had for what we should call this segment we were doing together in. And I've already said the F word. I can say the F word, right? Okay. So I was thinking that a fun theme because I thought I wanted to talk to you about AI and sex tech. And where it's all going is I'm a werewolf right now and I'm not sad about it.
B
Go on.
A
So there's this really cool company, they're called Tracy's Dog. And everybody's like, that is a weird name. And it's not. When you think about the fact that it's your loyal best friend, your sex toilets, your loyal best friend friend. And they have two products that are app driven AI adaptive technology. And what's interesting about one of them is called Drill Me. And it's my favorite thing to demonstrate. I'm not going to do it on your show because YouTube doesn't like it and I don't want you to get it. There's too much censorship, which is why we struggle. So thank you for having me on your show and exposing me to so many people. I really appreciate that because I'm. I can't even. I joke that that the. The title of my autobiography is going to be Segs. Se ggs. Cuz I can't even use the word sex on Instagram.
B
Censor.
A
I can't use vagina and things like. It's ridiculous. You're going to have to bleep me. Right. I mean, it's going to be bleeped.
B
Right? A few words. Yeah. But people know kind of what you're saying.
A
They do, yeah. If they can't figure it out, they
B
shouldn't know we throw up a banana emoji and.
A
Exactly. Eggplant, bananas, peaches, et cetera. Yes, all the. All the things. So the. These two products. One is called Drill Me and It's this thrusting vibrator. And the other one is one of my favorite kinds of sex toys. It's called the beta. And it's a clitoral stimulator. Basically an air stimulator. Like it sucks your clit.
B
Oh.
A
And it strokes your vaginal cavern and G spot. So you're getting. So basically. Basically it's like a c. And your whole clitoral structures are all inside there, getting stimulated in all their favor.
B
Wow. At the same time.
A
Yeah.
B
Holy crap.
A
And both of those work with their app. It's called Aphy A I P H Y. And the Aphi is really designed for women. To me, they've done the best job so far of adaptive AI sex tech, where when you get onto the app, you get to pick your avatar. And you can pick, like, hunky guys. You can pick very, like, gender non binary looking people. You can pick your favorite sexy women. You can pick your anime sexy, you know, lovelies or whatever you want. But they also have, like a werewolf. I'm like. Next up, the centaur, please. So they have fantasy creatures as well. Because women, I mean, you know, women's erotic romance is werewolves and centaurs.
B
Twilight. Right.
A
All those vampires. We love fantasy creatures.
B
Yeah.
A
And we like that kind of romanticized fantasy. So you pick your avatar, and when you sync your app to your sex toy, your avatar calls you. So we get a phone call because you guys never call us. And so my husband does. Not the. I. He answers the phone for me.
B
Me.
A
But like, no one else. Like, I know you guys don't like to talk about. So our avatar calls us and we answer. And we can have a sexy video date with our avatar and our avatar will talk dirty to us, tell us dirty stories, coach us through our orgasm.
B
Wow.
A
And our avatar, my werewolf, learns how I like to come and gives me what I want. Hello. I mean, this is the death knell for all the guys that don't know how to get the. The second sex date.
B
Yes.
A
If you can't do as well as the werewolf, oh, you'll be screwed. And not in a good way.
B
So. And that's concerning for guys out here. They got to compete with werewolves and vampires now.
A
Well, we have to compete with AI Connected.
B
That's true. Yeah.
A
But, you know, not everybody. Not everybody even likes people. Some people are too people for people,
B
you know, people here.
A
So whatever. Everyone will find their way. Everybody's a grownup. We're all doing our things. There's lots of. Of people out here who can tell you how to get better and get what you want. So you just got to go for it. But that is a very interesting thing. Adaptive AI sex toys in romantic pleasuring for women. That's cool too.
B
Yeah, I'm going to look into that one.
A
Yeah.
B
Wow.
A
I'll have it sent to you if you'd like.
B
Yeah, I'll try it out. I'll see what I'm into.
A
Yeah, there you go. I know.
B
So fun.
A
Yeah. So I just wanted to finish up on that because we hadn't.
B
Yeah, we'll link that. You mentioned the company. We'll link it below.
A
Yeah, sounds good.
B
We'll link your sites. Anything else you want to link? Your Instagram.
A
Oh, yeah, I'm easy to find. I'm Susan Bratton. Just all one word. Smush it together and you'll find me everywhere. And betterlover.com what I do is write a sexy newsletter every week. And so if you like the techniques I've talked about, go to betterlover.com and sign up for my newsletter. And if you have a question for me, you can email me. And when you reply to those Better Lover emails, I answer personally. Respect that does knock. And I. That's what makes me good.
B
I'm sure you get a lot.
A
I get a lot and I love it. And I. 95% of the time I'm like, oh, yeah, I have a video that answers that. Or here's three articles I wrote that'll give you your solution. Or here's the step by step. And 5% of the time it's like, that's a good question. And then I take the. Not. I take all the personally identifiable information out and I write it as one of my newsletters because other people are asking that too.
B
Smart.
A
So that's what's made me so good at helping people, which is what I love to do. So thank you for having me.
B
Absolutely. Check her out, guys. That was fun. Peace. Thanks for watching all the way to the end, guys. It means a lot. Please click here if you want to watch the next episode. And please subscribe to the show. It helps us get more guests and helps grow the brand.
Air Date: July 16, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Susan Bratton (“The Orgasmonaut”; renowned sexpert and author)
In this bold and candid episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with sex expert Susan Bratton to explore how technology—especially AI and sex tech—is transforming our intimate lives. The conversation dives deep into the evolving dynamics between genders, cultural shifts around sexuality, actionable advice for better relationships and sex, and cutting-edge developments in AI-powered pleasure tools. Susan offers practical, science-backed, and nonjudgmental insights for men and women looking to build deeper connection, pleasure, and trust, and even shares her personal journey from sexual frustration to “orgasmonaut.”
Key points:
“Underneath all of it, everybody wants love, connection, hot sex, incredible orgasms. So there’s a lot of froth. But there’s still the coffee, right?”
— Susan Bratton (03:12)
“Give me all da tings. I want all five, all the time, steady state, just pour it on me.”
— Susan Bratton (04:00)
“Once you figure out what [your partner's values] are...you just focus on giving her what she wants and not guessing.”
— Susan Bratton (08:50)
“I had a brand new kind of orgasm I’ve never had from a sex tech.”
— Susan Bratton (12:06)
“What he was doing to the tip of his penis was actually happening way up inside me...and I came in a way that I’d never come before. It triggered some new sensations.”
— Susan Bratton (19:17)
“My werewolf learns how I like to come and gives me what I want. Hello. I mean, this is the death knell for all the guys that don’t know how to get the... second sex date.”
— Susan Bratton (56:16)
“Encourage your partner to masturbate. Encourage him to find his P spot...because they help him keep atrophy at bay, keep his firmness hard, keep the blood flow good, keep his prostate healthy...”
— Susan Bratton (25:09)
“I call it having a dope flow sex date...let our bodies do the talking...”
— Susan Bratton (34:18)
“There is a path through sexuality...and that is the state of connection to source, where you actually feel how you and I are one, how we are all one.”
— Susan Bratton (35:54)
“When that guy is moaning and he's got his face buried in you...that's masculine sexual leadership.”
— Susan Bratton (40:53)
“The way you do it is...a squeeze, a breath, and pelvic rock. It’s really like a golf swing... but once you do it, it's second nature.”
— Susan Bratton (45:49)
On keeping sex alive:
“When you hit that monotony of monogamy, it’s time to start doing some new things. Like the same old same o does not scale.”
— Susan Bratton (21:41)
On what women want:
“Trust and safety...if we don’t feel safe, we can’t relax and we can’t begin to get aroused.”
— Susan Bratton (21:59)
On transcending shame:
“It’s shame. It’s control. Shame and repression. And that’s what I’m here to push you through so you can get to the other side and have really hot sex that keeps getting better for the rest of your life.”
— Susan Bratton (26:25)
“My werewolf learns how I like to come and gives me what I want... If you can't do as well as the werewolf, oh, you'll be screwed—and not in a good way.”
— Susan Bratton (56:16)
For more from Susan Bratton:
Summary by Digital Social Hour Summaries. This detailed recap brings together the episode’s biggest lessons, moments, and expert advice for a richer, more connected love life.