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AI, UFOs & the Future of Humanity: What You Need to Know | Thomas Kaenzig DSH #1309
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But, you know, by choice and definitely, you know, not having more than two children per couple, because that way at least you keep things stable. And some people ask, well, how do we do it first? I mean, the easiest one is the lowest hanging fruit is what, you know, think about on a tax return, people can make a deduction for, you know, having an extra child. Right.
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All right, guys, Tom Mix Kenzig here. Today we're going to talk about the origins of humanity. Aliens, UFOs and all that sort of stuff. Thanks for coming on, man.
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Well, thanks for inviting me.
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Yeah, let's kick it from the top. So origins of humanity, it's a debated topic, right?
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Yes. Well, there's two classical explanations, right? The idea of random evolution, or the idea of an almighty God sitting on a cloud somewhere. The Railing movement proposed a third explanation saying that life on Earth was created by extraterrestrials who came about 25,000 years ago to this planet and who created life here scientifically. And those extraterrestrials were mistaken for gods. If you look at all the ancient texts, we're here in the Abrahamic world, right, where the Bible is widespread. You take the Bible, in the ancient Hebrew version, it says in Genesis, Elohim created man in their image. Elohim did this. Elohim did this. The word actually Elohim was mistranslated, unfortunately, in English into the word God, which is probably the biggest lie. I always call it like that, the biggest lie on this planet they made out of a plural, a singular. Because the word Elohim, literally translated, actually means those who came from the sky. And if you look around the planet, other than the Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, pretty much all the other religions, legends already talk about a plurality of beings. So this idea of a monotheism is really doesn't exist much. You go to Africa, the legends there, they talk about little geniuses who came from the sky. You go to India, where they talk about the gods, plural, flying around in the Vimas having names, behaving like us. There's Shiva, for example, right? You go to China, there's a story of foreign Fu Xi Niwa, you know, creating life. We have in Chinese mythology, you probably saw a few years ago, the Chinese, they put a moon lander on the moon, and they named it Chang'e. Chang'e was a Chinese goddess who supposedly lived on the moon. This is obviously nowadays in the age of science, we can understand this. Well, yeah, it was an extraterrestrial, right? We go here, obviously, before Christianity came to this Land. We know the natives in their stories, in their legends, they talk about the great forefathers who created life. So there's always been pretty much in.
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All the Greek gods, too.
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The Greeks, everywhere you go, other than in the city, Abrahamic religions, it's always been a multitude of gods. And of course, we have to understand primitive people at the time, they saw beings coming from the sky. Yes. They, you know, wow, this, this, they had like, you know, God they described as godlike figures because, you know, you take, you know, Even go back 500 years and you do a video call with somebody who's up in Denver, and they would think, wow, this is. This is magic. Here. You have godlike power. So think about thousands of years ago, any technology was deified. And then we have to read all the ancient texts, really try to read the ancient text with the eyes of somebody who has a scientific understanding. You take, for example, Noah's Ark, right? It's in the Bible. How could this be just like a boat that floats in water? Well, how can you load up from each animal? I mean, the female and the male. The lion's not going to eat the gazelle. I mean, you got to have a huge boat to start with. And how do you. This doesn't make sense now in this stage of science and technology, the understanding we have today, what if they just took one cell and then you can clone the animal. So one cell object, way less space, Right? So if we can understand all these legends, the story of Jonas and the whale, right? He spent, what, three days and three nights in a big fish. Explain that. How does that work? He's not going to come out alive after that. You spend three hours in a whale and you're probably already half digester. Right? But what if it's a submarine? Okay, now this all makes sense, right? And that's really. So we have these extraterrestrial scientists who came here, created all forms of life, starting off with very primitive life forms, and then ultimately, as they say, as it's said in the Bible, humans in their image and their likeness.
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Got it.
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And so they stayed in touch with humanity by sending at different times, prophets, Moses, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Joseph Smith, to mention one that is.
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I don't know that one was here.
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In the Americas, right? So about a total of 40 prophets were sent to basically guide humanity to, how should I say, simply put, have more love for each other, live a harmonious life. And yes, that. That's really the. The role of a prophet. And now that we're the age of. Of Science and understanding the age of apocalypse. The apocalypse doesn't a lot of people. Oh, you talk about destruction? No, not at all. The word apocalypse comes from the Greek apocalypsis. It means revelation. This is day and age, everyone, right now, ever since the explosion of the first atomic bomb in Japan in 1945. And that's when the Elohim, our extraterrestrial creators, decided to send their last messenger, Rael. And they gave a mission to basically inform the whole planet about our extraterrestrial origin and build an embassy for them where they can officially be welcomed.
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Wow, you just said a lot. I got a lot of questions.
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Yeah, sure, go ahead.
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So basically from the start, you don't believe that evolution happened, right?
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No, actually, you know, for me, I became a railing. I would say it was, it was simply a rational choice. So when you always ask yourself any, any scientific theory, any hypothesis, can you replicate it? Now, you know, Miller and many other scientists for decades been sitting in front of some earth and hoping something to happen and nothing really comes out of it.
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Right?
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So out of nothing, nothing's going to come. Now what the Rain philosophy is proposing is, is scientific, atheistic creationism. And that's what we are replicating today. I mean, there's scientists right now who, as we speak, there's probably tens of thousands of PhDs in labs who create life. You know, we start off with very simple life forms. I think it was Craig Vent or somebody who created the first single cell organism a few years ago. And one day a scientist we will, you know, obviously we will evolve, evolve our techniques. Yes. But one day there will be a scientist who will dream about creating a being in our image, just like it was with us. And he may have to go to another planet because this may be too controversial.
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Some people think cloning already exists.
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Well, cloning is a yes. I mean, Jesus was probably the first clone.
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Jesus was cloned?
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Well, he was. Think about it. He died on the cross and then he reappeared. How is that possible? Right. So Again, this is 2,000 years ago. You couldn't scientifically explain this, but nowadays we can understand it. I mean, all they had to do is, yeah, basically clone him in advanced stage compared with what we know today. Right. Cloning today is just creating a, a later born twin if you want. So that's the same DNA, but obviously we grow up at a, you know, different time, different conditioning, different programming. But so once you can create a being at an advanced adult stage. Think of you. Have, have you seen the movie the Fifth Element? I haven't you know, where they basically this, this mysterious woman who helps them to, you know, save humanity ultimately, but they create her just kind of like in a machine program it and she's assembled and she comes out as an adult body. Right. You don't have to go through a. Because right now a clone obviously is going to be born as a little baby and takes years. Right. So when you can, you can call it advanced growth process master that somebody comes around out at an adult stage and then the only thing you have to do is what, transfer personality and memory and even that. We're getting close to that. So once we will be able to transfer personality, memory and master some kind of advanced growth process, we will have eternal life. It will not be a, you know, for thousands of years people have been talking about eternal life, but it was always mystified. Right. And now again, immortality. In this age of science and technology, we can understand all this. It's no longer a mystery and that was announced a long time ago. It's in this age, the age of apocalypse. The mystery of God will be solved. That's what we're seeing. Science is basically. Yeah, it's ultimately removing, killing the idea of some kind of an immaterial God. But explain to us that this were just beings who love us and who would like to come back. And that's why the Raider movement has this goal to build an embassy for them.
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It's exciting. I saw scientists cloned the woolly mammoth. Did you see that?
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They're working on that. Yeah. The problem, you have to get DNA.
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Yeah.
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That is still fully, fully there, not just fragments of it. But yeah. Maybe you're going to use an elephant as a surrogate.
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Right.
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Because you still get to, you know, have, go for a pregnancy at this stage. So. Yeah, but all this is, is happening very fast. And always remember that the, the science fiction of yesterday is today's science. Right?
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Yeah.
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And in our science fiction, today will be tomorrow's science.
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We're going to live in Star Trek in 50 years.
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Well, we're going to reach singularity very soon and we will be able to travel if we don't kill ourselves. And that's really. Mankind is right now at this stage where we will either use science and technology to create a better planet for everybody, the golden age that was announced a long time ago, or we will self destruct. I mean, if you look at so many countries have, you know, nuclear weapons and if one starts to push a button, the other will respond and it's going to be the End of all of us. So we're right that this. It's a very. I always tell people we are living at the most exciting time. You know, think about it. Our ancestors were shoveling coal in mines. We've really very little hope, right? We are our generation. We are the ones who are gonna. It's kind of the do or die moment and we're gonna enter this golden age or we're gonna disappear. So of course, as Raylens, we are here to save humanity. And I think by bringing this message of. It's not only explaining because a lot of people think, you know, the Rain philosophy. Yes, okay, okay. We come from ETs. Okay, thanks. But it's not just the past. Yes, we have. We bring a very rational explanation about the origin of life, but we have teachings about living in the present moment. And I think that's something that is the now, which is very important. And a lot of people have kind of lost track of it. They have stuck in the past or worry about a future that will never happen. It's not there. So it's very important to teach people to be in the now. And we have seminars on a regular basis worldwide where we teach meditation and help people to be in the present moment, to have. To develop a happiness, a true happiness that comes from the inside. And I think it's one of the biggest illusions on this planet other than the idea of an almighty God. I think the other big illusion is the idea of separation. You know, just look at our language, right? People say, my girlfriend, my cat, my house, my car. You know, there's always, you know, I own this, it's me, separate. Whereas we were all just stardust. You and I, we ultimately, the matter that we're made of, it comes from the stars. And yes, we are alive right now. And when we die, we go back to what we've always been, part of that dust. But basically the organized matter becomes inorganized matter. But we're all just stardust. And people on this planet would understand that then that removes any basis for. For war and all the horrible things we're seeing nowadays on this planet. So that's the. Yes, the rational explanation about our past, the philosophy that helps us to live in the now. And at the same time, the Rain philosophy, it prepares us for a beautiful future. And we are very enthusiastic about what we see happening with AI and. And very soon we'll have a planet where people won't have to work anymore. Isn't that great? Because the Elohim, they didn't create us. Get up at the sound of an alarm clock at 6am to brush your teeth, go downstairs, eat your toast, get in the car, drive to work, clock in your nine hours, go back, sit tight in front of the TV and then go to bed and do that for 40 years and then retire and maybe five years later have a heart attack. I mean it's a nightmare if you think about it. But thanks to science and technology, we will very soon be able to create a society where full of abundance, everybody will be able to live and enjoy themselves, create, meditate, do what they want to do without having this huge burden of having to work, having to clock in somewhere.
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That would be interesting. That's how the ancient civilizations operated, right?
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Yeah. I mean that's when, when you read about, when they talk about the paradise and all these things. Of course you don't want to, don't want to have a society where you work and where there's money and we're really close, we're getting really close to this moment really. And it's, I mean you can see it everywhere right now. I mean you remember the, I mean in simple ways. I mean look at you go to the store you used to always talk to, cashier swipes the barcodes and gives you a toll and you pay. Right. Nowadays you can do self checkout, right? You used to go to many malls, you have to buy your thing. Now Amazon, we're in a warehouse, a robot assembles your order. Right now we still have a truck driver driving that truck. Within a couple of years there won't be a truck driver anymore. It'd be just all done by robots. So we already see all that coming and things are going to go very, very fast. I was talking to a friend of mine recently, he works in the field of AI. He's been developer all his life. He told me he only writes 2% of his code himself, 98%. It's the AI is doing it.
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That's crazy. People develop their coding skills for years right now, yeah, they go to college.
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And the problem, that's why if you're a junior developer, it's very hard to find any job because that's all done by computer, computers and robots and that's happening in literally all industries, thankfully. And so within a few years we'll be able to really live in a leisure society. And that will also help to just say, to just increase the happiness of people because think about it, if you got to worry about whether you can make ends meet at the end of the month, Right. It's difficult to be fully harsh, just awakened and, you know, in harmony.
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That's a big stressor for most families. That's a financial. Yeah. You mentioned nuclear weapons earlier is a big threat also. Do you think overpopulation is a threat to humanity?
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Yes. I was born in 1973 and world population was around 4 billion. Now, 52 years later, we more than doubled.
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Wow.
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So that is really. It is a huge issue for humanity. And that's one of the main pieces of advice the Elohim give us, that we really should. Of course, some people are saying all these crazy ideas about reducing population, not forcefully, but by choice. And definitely not having more than two children per couple, because that way at least you keep things stable. And some people ask, well, how do we do it first? I mean, the easiest one, the lowest hanging fruit is what? You know, think about it. On a tax return, people can make a deduction for, you know, having an extra child. Right. So you basically have an incentive. This is a crazy thing. In our society, in most countries, you're being given an incentive to have more children. In some countries, like in Europe, for example, in France, if you have 10, 12 kids, you can pretty much live off the government check just because. Yeah, so. And that's, you know, so there's definitely. So there's easy things we can change. And I hope, just if people are aware of that and just you make a conscious decision, that's me personally. I do not have any children. I'm great for those who choose to have one, but please don't have more than two.
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Elon Musk, baby, he's got 14.
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Elon Musk has many ideas, we agree with him, but definitely not as far as terms of a number of children. Yeah, well, his.
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I see his point of view too, because he's trying to build legacy and his kids maybe take the throne one day.
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But if everybody has temples, I mean, we just don't, you know. You know, we just don't have the resources, you know, and, and think of it, if, if everybody on the planet would live like we do here with, you know, one, two cars per household. I mean, the whole infrastructure, it's. You just don't have the resources. Right?
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Yeah. Probably not enough real estate. Right.
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Yeah. And everything. I mean, it comes down to simple like Alma Lake, water, food and all that. Right. So. And we will. I mean, in the US if you look at the population density here, it's still somewhat. Because we got a lot of land. But you go to a place like Bangladesh, India, some Of these places, you know, I mean, you have one disruption even in the supply chain and we have starvation and all that.
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Have you been over there?
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I've been to a lot of Asian countries, but not Bangladesh, where Israeli and movement.
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The biggest. Which country?
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So the railing movement is really on all the continents. From, you know, here, us, Canada, Mexico, in North America, in Europe, obviously in the French speaking countries. Because Raoul is French originally and so he started spreading the message in French speaking Europe. So in France, Switzerland, but we also have a lot of railings in Africa, in Western Africa, mainly Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Congo. Most railings are actually in Asia, in Japan.
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Oh God.
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And we have lots of members too in Korea. And not by surprise because probably the Buddhist countries, Buddhism is basically Raelianism is basically Buddhism without the mysticism. So it's an easy jump, right? Easy step from Buddhism to radianism, you know, if you take the Abrahamic religions, right. It's very dogmatic, you know, don't do this, don't do that, you're a sinner and all that. The Buddhism is focused on the awakening of a person and obviously so is radianism. It's to, you know, be yourself and be happy and not this heavy luggage of your sinner and kind of Ten Commandments style, don't do this kind of thing.
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Yeah, a lot of shame there, right, with the sin.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah. And they make you confess. Yeah. It's an interesting model, right?
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It's a terrible model because it creates somebody who's full of fear. Oh, did I, did I do this right? You know, and all that. So when, when you, when a human being can grow up and I should say develop themselves the way, the way they are, be themselves, as we like to say it, then that, that creates a totally different human being. A human being that is more, more loving, more happy, more harmonious. And through that we'll will awaken brothers and sisters around himself.
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I love it. Do you believe in the afterlife like heaven and hell?
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So the Elohim do recreate on the planet eternals those human beings who have done a lot of positive for humanity. All the prophets of old are there.
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So karma?
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Well, no, but it's very important. It's a scientific recreation. So with somebody's DNA and what we call, as we talked before about the advanced growth process and the memory transfer, they can recreate. So if say you died in a car accident and Sean, hopefully you've done a lot of positive and good for humanity, they would, you know, recreate you on the planet of Eternals. But it's, it's, it's a scientific recreation. But it was talked about as you say, all the, the religions of the past. Right. They talk about this paradise, but it was obviously mystified again due to lack of scientific understanding. But it's simply the plan of eternals. What people call the paradise in the past is simply a place of leisure, blossoming and awakening.
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Yes, interesting. Do you think there's a lot of misunderstanding around Jesus and Moses?
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Well, yeah, I mean they obviously were prophets of the Elohim, but we misunderstood, I think many things they said. The problem was, you know, think about nowadays Rao, the last prophet of Elohim, he's here in the day and age of signs. We can record him. So whatever he said, you know, we can show it. There's all these videos. You can website ral.org and you can click, look at all the videos, everything he says. Right. So it's all documented. The problem with the prophets of old, there was no, I mean what they were teaching that was actually written down years, decades later, not necessarily by the people who are actually a first hand witness. So things get totally transformed. I mean if you look at Jesus, he was, you know, speaking about love and compassion, I don't see that in the Catholic Church. I mean, look at what the horrors they've done over centuries. You know, the Crusades, the burning of the witches. That's not. Jesus didn't want that. Jesus never. I mean that's. Yeah, that's. So there's. We have to make a difference between the prophet and, and his teachings at the time and versus the city organizations that came out of it.
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Yeah, it's like that game Telephone. Did you play that growing up where.
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Like you have 10 people exactly you. Somebody says something, some, somebody else and then 10 people later. Right. It's totally. Exactly.
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Totally, Definitely.
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Totally. Yes, yes. And that's why I feel so, how should I say, privileged to be alive at this day and age where we, you know, we have, we have a living prophet. We can actually see exactly what he says. It's all recorded. And there's no, you can't, you can't betray. I would say that, yeah, you can. The prophet cannot betrayed anymore. Whereas in the past, yes, unfortunately, many prophets were. Their teachings were betrayed.
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Yeah. A lot of people label themselves as prophets. I never know who to believe.
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You know, first of all, we have to maybe demystify the term. Right. The prophet. It comes from the Greek, means the one who reveals true prophet reveals something that he's ahead of Time.
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Right.
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And, yeah, of course, it was said in the Bible, too, there will be many false prophets. And that's what we're seeing today, right? In.
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In our day and age with social media. Yeah. Yeah. It's in their Instagram bio.
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Yeah. I always tell people, you know, just, you know, make up your own mind, and that's really. As Raelians, we are never. No Raylan will want to convince anybody of something. We are here. I'm here today just to. To speak about the rain philosophy. I tell people, go on our website, well.org, download this message which comes from the stars, and make up your mind. If it speaks to you, great. If it doesn't, great. I want you. I want you to be happy. That is, it's. I don't want everybody to become a railing. Not at all. I want people to be happy. But, yeah, check it out. And then make up your mind. That's what I was told.
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I like that. Because a lot of modern religion is kind of culty, you know?
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Yes. And you have to believe and convince. I. You see any. You talk to any Raelian, they're all, we, somehow we. When I. I'm just, you know, kind of looking back at myself when I read the book, right? The. The. The message from the Elohim, I. When I was going through the pages, I just. I found myself. I, I, I, I saw in it what I've always believed to be true. So there was nothing. Nobody convinced me of anything. For me, it's like. It's like all the pieces of the puzzle came together. That's how I felt. That's. You know, when you talk to Raelians, the true rains, they're all. They just saw themselves in that book, in that message. It resonated with them. And nobody gets convinced or anything, because the truth, either people recognize it or they don't. So there's no need. I'm not going to waste time trying to explain people something. Like when people ask me about, you know, rain philosophy, I just usually give them the flyer and say, here, check it out. The website. Want to know more? Call me. And yeah, I love that.
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The Raelian symbol of infinity. Could you explain the meaning behind that?
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Yes. It's the symbol that I'm wearing here today. It's the symbol of the Elohim, the symbol of infinity. It has two parts, right? You see the star of David, which represents infinity and space. And you have the swastika, which represents infinity in time. So what does that mean? So the infinity in space, you have a triangle Pointing up and a triangle pointing down. The triangle pointing up represents the infinite large, meaning we are on a, on a, on a planet that goes around the sun, right. And the sun circles around the center of a galaxy in an infinite universe that's on, on our level. Now these galaxies that we're all inside, they're on an infinite larger level. They're inside an atom, a molecule of something infinitely larger. Maybe a living human being. Maybe we are inside on an infinite larger level. You're inside a person who right now interviews somebody else and that to the infinite, you know, it goes in same of the triangle pointing down, meaning that in my finger for example, you know, there's atoms in there and in those particles inside there's on an infinitely smaller level this galaxies with solar systems, planets and maybe for sure in here there's, in one of them, there's people talking about infinity too. And so, and that goes forever to the, you know, infinitely small. So that's the infinity in space represented by the star of David. Then we have the swastika. It represents infinity in time, meaning there's no beginning and no end. Everything is cyclical. And of course the swastika has been in western countries, it was tarnished, you know, by you know, Hitler abusing the symbol. But the swastika has been around for thousands of years.
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B
Really.
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And yeah, it only had positive connotations. I mean the word swastika from the Sanskrit means little things associated with well being. That's the etymological meaning of it. Right. But even in the United states until the 1920s, people got married, they often received a postcard with a swastika on it, you know, wishing them well. You go like in San Francisco, the old Mint, the old US Mint. And you can still see that today there's a big swastika there. You remember President Garfield?
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Don't actually.
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It's one of the.
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I'm 28.
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Yeah, okay. Yeah, well it's well before my time too. Yeah.
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And I heard of him.
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Yeah. And there's a memorial. Like most residents, they have a memorial, right?
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Yeah.
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And in that building there is on the floor there's swastikas.
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Really?
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Yeah. So until, until Hitler abused an already existing symbol, it was really only, it was only a positive connotation, the very positive meaning. And, and specifically. And people, some ask why do you guys, why do you use the small signal? Because, you know, blah, blah. Well, because I specific, I don't want to give credit to this monster. And that's why the Raider movement, we have this we initiate an action called the Swastika Rehabilitation Day, where we basically, public spaces, explain to people the origin of the swastika and actually want to take it back. Because if you associated it with Hitler, you're only giving credit to this guy. And he just abused a very beautiful symbol. And that's why it's very important to explain to people the beautiful original meaning. So. And symbols can be used by anybody. You know, think about it. You take, well, the Ku Klux Klan is using the Christian cross.
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Right, Right.
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I don't think Christians agree with, you know, the Klan's ideology. Right, yeah. You know, so symbols can always be abused, but that's why it's so important to explain people the true and original meaning.
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Yeah, that's good to know. I didn't know it was around that long. Did you see what happened to Kanye West?
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He actually posted our symbol.
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Oh, he did?
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Yes. The screenshot is our symbol.
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Oh, wow.
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But I don't know. We tried to reach out to him. I did send him a dm, but I never heard back. And I don't know what his intention was. And he sometimes seems to have. I don't know.
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Well, he tried selling the shirts with the swastika on Shopify and then they banned him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, I don't know what, you know, what went through his mind when he posted that or.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But again, it's, you know, what is most. The most important thing to remember, that swastika is actually sacred symbol. You go to Asia, you have it all over the place. I mean, in Japan, you know, you walk in Tokyo like a manhole cover. There's a swastika there. On a Tokyo map, all the temples, this is what. They're basically marked with a swastika. Like here, we marked the churches with a cross on the map. Right. So they marked them with a swastika on the map.
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B
That's crazy.
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Yeah. And that's why in Asia, people are totally. I should say they're all familiar. For them, this is a highly, highly regarded sacred symbol. And so, actually, I have to say, so it is here. Because when I say here, we all came only a few hundred years ago here, but the original owners of the land here, the natives, for them, the swastika is a very sacred and highly regarded symbol, too.
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B
That is interesting. Yeah. There's a lot of programming around the swastika. Right. The Western culture, how it's. How it's evil. I remember growing up learning about it, but.
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But that's why that's why it's so important for us to, to, to restore and to rehabilitate it. Yes, yeah, that, that's what we're doing. And, and we have a website. It's pro Swastika, one word dot org.
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B
Okay.
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A
And you can see pictures of swastika. You can actually, we have a whole section there. It's. We have like, you know, different continents, subsections for each continent. And there's one for Israel.
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B
Really.
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So even in Israel, the Ein Geri synagogue on the ground, there's swastika in Capernaum and one of the most holy sites for the Jewish people, the Second Temple. So, you know, it's been a Jewish symbol, a symbol of Judaism for thousands of years as well. So. And that's why we have this rehabilitate the swastika action and.
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B
Yeah, we'll link that below in the video. Yeah. I'm just now realizing a lot of the history I was taught growing up was incorrect. So I have to unlearn everything.
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A
That's why I'm here.
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B
Well, history is just programming in school.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
They teach it from one perspective.
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Yeah. And that's why I think the beautiful thing, I think day and age of the Internet.
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B
Right.
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A
I think that changed a lot. Right. Because you're. Yes. People still go to school and you know, and, and, and programmed by their parents, program school of the Internet. You can go and, and you know, check, check things out yourself. Look at different, different sources, different perspectives. Even the, if you look at the news, for example. I always look at very different news sources. You know, I, Yes. I look at the mainstream US media just to kind of see what's going. But also look at, you know, rt, Russia Today. Do I know it's sponsored by the Russian government? Yes, of course I know that. But it gives me a different perspective. I look at Chinese news, South China Morning Post. So you. That helps you. And that's really the, you know, I, I remember growing up, we just had the local newspapers delivered in your mailbox. Yeah, that's kind of. And then the evening news on television. Right. That's about it. But nowadays you can really. Thanks to the Internet, you know, you can, you can make up your mind, do your own research.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And yeah, it's really makes you think. It's a great time to be alive.
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B
Yeah. It makes you think because when we paint certain countries and leaders as villains, it's like, are they actually villains or are we just portraying them that way?
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A
Right, absolutely.
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B
And then you dive into it and usually they're decent People, they're a human.
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A
Being like you and I, and they have different viewpoints. But I think ultimately that's why the message of the Elohim is so important, because it's a message that will unify the world. Because once you understand we were all created by the same people, you know, it's not Allah and then, my God, no, no. It's the same people who, they just send different prophets at different times. Teachers who, Teachers of love, that's how I call them. And these. But when you understand it's all of the same with the actually race. The Elohim on purpose created seven original races on this planet. It's like a filter, because think about it. Would you give your inheritance to a civilization that is primitive, where they kill each other just because of a very slight difference in skin color?
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No.
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No. So, so the, so that's why the Elohim originally created seven different races. Now of course, nowadays we've intermixed quite a bit already. Yeah, but that's, that's just a, it's a beautiful filter. But once we, we can see that it's all. And you speak about the conditioning. Yeah. For example, we just had a big campaign. Adam and Eve were black. We had billboard campaign Atlanta and actually worldwide, in Africa too. And think about it, for black people, they were brutally in Africa, brutally colonized by the white Christians who told them God is white, Jesus is white, all the angels are white.
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B
Right.
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You don't, you know, I'm always wondering, how can you even be Christian as an African? Because wouldn't make sense. No, you know, think about it. But, but the truth is very different. Actually. The Elohim too, they have, you know, they were originally seven different. Seven different races.
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B
Wow.
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A
And so Adam and Eve were black. Yes, yes. That's what, what rail revealed to us.
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B
Holy crap. That's crazy.
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A
It destroys this, you know, a very, a very, how should I say, white dominated culture. You know, the world culture is very white dominated.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And, but it's beautiful what we see right now. I mean, you look at, I don't know how much you follow the politics.
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B
In Africa, but not in Africa that much.
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There's many countries there, you know, they were, you know, colonized by the French. Now, now they're kicking out the French. And that's beautiful. And I mean, think about Africa. But you know, you look at the map of Africa today, right. It's. Do you see the lines are the straight lines for the countries. Yeah, that doesn't, you know, that doesn't occur naturally. No, that's because in 1881, the colonizers got together and kind of split up the continent. Like you take a cake and just, you know, make pieces. And that's why there were a lot of wars like the Hutu and the Tutsi in Rwanda. Right. Because basically what happened, we put two or multiple tribes which lived separately for millennia, and we put them in the same country. So then they're fighting for power, of course. And so that's really. That's because of the colonization by the white people. And Ral has been strong advocate to. In Africa. He calls for a cultural decolonization. You know, think about the people always, you know, wearing the. The suits. And again, it's a western in Africa. Beautiful dresses there. The. The original African dresses.
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B
Wow.
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So a radical. A cultural decolonization. A religious one of course too, because they have beautiful religions in Africa before Christianity and Islam came. Economic as well. And in a political. And basically get rid of the colonizing country because, you know, think about, they all had like the French, they had their. They had their compounds there to basically pretty much elect or make sure the right person gets elected as president. But all that is changing and same on a global level. If you look at with China, the new rising power it creates, for at least the last few decades, even centuries, let's say the Anglo Sax and the North American European cultures have dominated the planet. And now you can see China coming.
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B
Dubai.
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Yes, yes. So it's a much more a. Which is what humanity should be. We have different colors, different cultures. And just as we advocate for being yourself individually, then that applies to the cultures too. So instead of having kind of like a white dominated European culture worldwide, we see much more of a diversity. And that diversity is what creates a beautiful humanity. Right.
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B
Yeah. When you look at a lot of wars, a lot of them seem orchestrated, you know.
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A
Yeah. I mean, it's hard to. Of course, the winners of every war is always the military industrial complex.
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B
Yeah, that's always.
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Remember that. And I mean, Eisenhower talked about it already. Right. And I think, you know, even here in the news in the U.S. right, they say, oh, we send billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine. What do you actually mean? I mean, you. You gave a lot of money to weapons manufacturers here. You can make weapons so people there can kill each other. It's not, you know, when I hear aid, you know, I'm thinking, well, I'm gonna bring food or, you know, I don't know, medical supplies. No, it's mainly here making people here rich. So they can sell their weapons over there.
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B
Wow.
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And many, many, many, many conflicts. I mean, it's, it's, it's. That's. They're always the winners, these. And that's why the Wayne philosophy, probably the most important teaching is nothing justifies violence. Very important. Nothing justifies violence. If somebody comes, say, by killing this person, we will save a thousand people. Ten thousand. Don't do it. Because once you justify the killing of one person for something good, then why not 10, why not 100?
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B
Doesn't stop.
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A
Why not a thousand? That's probably the most important teaching of the Elohim right now is to. Nothing justifies violence. It's sad that we have to remind people of that. Right. Even in the Old Testament, do not kill. That's kind of. But yes. And then we will truly be able to create a world of peace. And the Elohim, our creators, they really don't want to come into a world of violence. Think about it. Why would they want to come here? Why would somebody from another planet want to come here if people themselves kill each other just because they're of a different country, of a different race, different religion? It doesn't make sense. I mean, most of the astronauts, if you listen to them, they all have this beautiful testimony. Right. When they look at the earth from above, you don't see any border. There's no, you know, usa, Mexico, can. No, this is not. That's all an illusion, you know.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And, and so, yeah, I hope we.
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B
Could get there one day at a world peace. Because ever since I was a kid, I remember seeing war on the news or on social media now.
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A
Yes, but that's. Let's always remember. I think you bring up an important point and that's. I think, especially in the US I was born in Switzerland. Right. I've been here for 25 years. So I kind of look at it. I mean, I've lived here half my life, but I, I also have the view of an outsider. The problem in the United States, it's very much from an early stage on, you're being conditioned to the idea of. Of war or through war, achieving something good. You know, I mean, it starts in school. Think about it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Every morning, Pledge of allegiance.
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B
Right.
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A
To a country to flag that. That already. Oh, yeah, I'm American. But you know, it's very. And me or us and the others, you know, you already create separation. Our. That the whole. And then you can. What is it? Rotc. You know, basically like this, this pre military training high school.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I mean, you know, Think about. So there's very much this, this focus on, on, on, on. And I see it, you know, you go to. You go to a store, Home Depot, they have special parking for the veterans. So you glorify people who fought in the war.
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B
Veteran discounts are almost every company. Yeah.
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A
And so you create this idea that somebody who fought, you know, is a good person. And I even. I travel a lot for business. And at the airport, I remember this is a soldier, 20 years old, he buys a sandwich. Somebody comes from behind and say, well, let me buy this for you. Thank you for your service. And I was standing them like, service? What. What service? What service are we talking about? Who's being served by a soldier going abroad and killing people? Who is being served? I mean, are you kidding me? So even the words, right? The whole language, we, we see that, we talk about military service.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we constantly programmed. And then, of course, the movies. You know, Hollywood's always a big conditioning, right. You know, you see Top Gun, whatever. Oh, they, they fight the bad guys. We don't. I mean, who tells you these are bad people? I mean, they're in a faraway land. And. Okay. I mean, you know, somebody's. One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.
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B
Yeah. They would call us terrorists for invading their land.
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A
Exactly. So. And that's really. I think you bring up an important point. I think it's really. It starts with education. So imagine at school, instead of doing this stupid Pledge of Allegiance every morning, what if all the kids would do a peace meditation? Imagine that. It would totally change. Children would grow up in a very different way. They wouldn't want to fight anymore after that. Or instead of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, how about reciting human rights? And that's really. If we could. Just a small example. But if we could replace the Pledge of Allegiance with something peace oriented, unifying, like, like, like meditation. I think we, as Raylens, we do on a regular basis, peace meditations. And imagine every morning at school, all the kids before the day start, they do a peace meditation. We change the world very quickly.
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B
Yeah. There's a lot of good studies on meditation, how it helps the mind.
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A
Yeah. I. One of. One of the core teachings of the Elohim is to different meditation, meditation, meditation techniques that we teach. I. I personally meditate every day, usually in the morning upon awakening. And it helps you to connect with infinity and kind of set the tone for the day. A very harmonious, balanced way to start the day.
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B
I love that, Thomas. It's been really interesting. Where can people find you and learn more about the movement?
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A
Go on our website rail.org r a e l.org check it out. Make up your mind and take from these messages whatever is for you. I hope it brings you happiness and joy and whatever you choose. Either way, have a happy life.
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B
Beautiful. Thanks for coming on. That was fun. Thanks for watching guys. Check out the links below. I will see you next time.