Alex Clark: The Hidden Dangers of Air Fresheners (Protect Your Health!) | DSH #1467

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Alex Clark: The Hidden Dangers of Air Fresheners (Protect Your Health!) | DSH #1467
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Alex Clark
Date: July 28, 2025

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Overview

This episode of Digital Social Hour features Sean Kelly in conversation with Alex Clark at the Student Action Summit. The dialogue spans a variety of wellness and societal topics, focusing heavily on the hidden health hazards of artificial fragrances (especially air fresheners), hormone disruption, the dangers of EMFs, issues around early daycare, and the wider implications of the ultra-processed food industry. Alex combines humor and unfiltered honesty, challenging listeners to examine everyday choices for their impact on health and society.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Conference Environment & Gender Dynamics

• Alex comments humorously on the difference in vibe between women-only conferences and mixed-gender events.
  • "There's always no issues, no drama... Then you come to this one, it's like way rowdier when the boys are here." (01:11)
• Anecdote about recent drama involving a protestor, highlighting how the conference setting can be unpredictable.

2. Artificial Fragrances: Harmful Hormone Disruptors

• Main Theme: Alex brings attention to the widespread use and hidden dangers of artificial fragrances in cars, homes, and personal products.
  • Health Risks: Claims they can deplete testosterone, disrupt hormones, and contribute to illness and infertility.
  • Story: "I tell the Uber driver, I go, you realize that those are turning you gay?... It is depleting you of testosterone. It is wrecking your hormones." (02:25)
  • Uber driver reportedly throws away his air fresheners after Alex's warning.
• Actionable Tip: Replace artificial candles with beeswax candles for air purification and relaxation benefits.
  • "Beeswax candles... purify the air and they emit negative ions, which gives you the same, like, relaxed feeling that you get when you're at the ocean." (03:05)

3. EMF Exposure: Risks & Anecdotes

• EMF Concerns: Alex asserts that electromagnetic fields (EMFs) from devices like phones, Bluetooth-enabled appliances, and electric vehicles can have tangible negative health effects.
  • "Every single night when I go to sleep, my phone is on airplane mode. I never, ever keep that on Bluetooth." (06:44)
• Home Health Story: Shares a story of a sick child whose bed was next to a wall with a Bluetooth washer/dryer, which was allegedly causing sleep issues. (07:23)
• Cars & EMF: Both Sean and Alex avoid Teslas and even cancel rides to avoid them due to how “awful” they feel with the EMFs inside.
  • "I refuse to own a Tesla... I mean, they tell you, do not ever sit inside a Tesla as it's charging." (07:59)

4. Testosterone, Men’s Health & Social Trends

• Social Observation: Alex links declining testosterone with changing cultural dynamics.
  • "I think we are seeing higher estrogen levels in identifying liberal men... because of food" (04:18)
• Suggests testing testosterone at different political events to prove her hypothesis—a blend of critique and satire.
  • "If you were to do the same thing at a Turning Point USA event... I bet their testosterone levels would be higher." (04:18)
• Posits ultra-processed foods and artificial fragrances as major culprits in hormone disruption for both men and women.

5. Early Daycare & Child Attachment

• Alex’s Position: Opposes daycare before age three, citing attachment science.
  • "Studies show that daycare before the age of three is terrible for child attachment... the most important developmentally for that child is to be with their mother as much as possible." (09:06 to 09:39)
• Cites Being There by Erica Komisar for deeper evidence.

6. Infant Nutrition: Breast Milk vs. Formula

• Preference: Strongly advocates for breast milk as superior to formula.
  • "Breast milk is what is best for your developing child, for their immune system." (12:46)
  • Highlights concerns about excessive sugar and unhealthy ingredients in American baby formulas.
  • Reference to RFK and the “Maha movement” investigating formula ingredients: “There’s more sugar in baby formula, some of these brands, than there is in a can of Coke. For an adult, not a brand new [baby].” (13:12)

7. Ultra-Processed Foods & Public Health

• Critique of Brands: Takes aim at brands like Crumbl Cookie, painting them as modern purveyors of harm, akin to “the opioid crisis.”
  • "Gasoline is probably cleaner than a Crumbl cookie." (14:10)
  • Draws a parallel with the Sackler family and the opioid crisis, implying intentional harm for profit.
  • "We’re gonna have the same similar story with Crumbl." (15:07)
• Education vs. Regulation: Advocates for both.
  • "Some ingredients definitely should be banned... But I think education is the most powerful thing." (15:25)
• Personal Story: Shares about her father's health struggles and passing, blaming ultra-processed foods for modern chronic illness epidemics.
  • "My dad recently died... based on an addiction to ultra processed food. He developed glioblastoma, brain cancer... and my dad was only 57." (16:44)

8. Media, Pharma, and the Health Narrative

• Media Critique: Points out how Big Pharma, as the largest news advertiser, controls the acceptable narrative in American media.
  • "That is why during the pandemic, every broadcast sponsored by Pfizer and then we had no alternative information." (18:54)
• Policy Stance: Advocates for banning pharmaceutical ads on TV in the US.
  • "I'd like to see pharma ads banned off TV for good in America. You know, America and New Zealand are the only countries that allow pharma ads on tv." (18:11)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On car air fresheners:
  Alex Clark: “Your car air freshener is turning you gay. It is depleting you of testosterone. It is wrecking your hormones.” (02:25)

• On crumbl cookie:
  Alex Clark: “Gasoline is probably cleaner than a crumble cookie... You're working on your health and wellness while you are making money basically raping the health of Americans.” (14:10)

• On processed food and public health:
  Alex Clark: “The chronic disease epidemic in America is truly terrifying... infertility is rising 1% every single year. Where are the headlines and the sensationalism about these issues?” (16:44, 17:46)

• On pharmaceutical ads:
  Alex Clark: “America and New Zealand are the only countries that allow pharma ads on tv... That is why during the pandemic, every broadcast sponsored by Pfizer and then we had no alternative information.” (18:11, 18:54)

• On media control:
  Alex Clark: “They’re putting those commercials on TV so that you will have controlled information from those news sources. The biggest advertiser on mainstream media news is pharma.” (18:54)

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Topic / Segment | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:11 | Gender differences at conferences | | 02:25 | Dangers of car air fresheners and artificial fragrances | | 03:05 | Candles: Why beeswax is better | | 04:18 | Testosterone and cultural observations | | 06:44-07:23 | EMF dangers, Bluetooth devices, child health anecdote | | 07:59 | Avoiding Teslas and EMF exposure | | 09:06-09:39 | Opposition to daycare before age 3 and impact on attachment | | 12:46-13:15 | Breast milk, formula, and shocking baby formula sugar content | | 14:10-15:07 | Crumbl cookie and the harm of ultra-processed foods | | 16:44 | Personal story on processed foods and chronic disease | | 18:11-18:54 | Media, Big Pharma influence and call to ban pharma ads |

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Where to Find Alex Clark

• Podcast: Culture Apothecary (available on all platforms)
• YouTube: real Alex Clark

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Tone

The conversation is candid, nonconformist, and provocative, with Alex frequently using humor and bold analogies to underline her health warnings and societal critiques.

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This summary covers the key themes and content from the episode, providing context and concrete takeaways for listeners interested in wellness, health advocacy, and critical takes on mainstream health culture.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

So I guess I wasn't thinking about it. Are those electric? I didn't know, though.

[C]

I don't even. I don't know if they are or not. I feel like they might be.

[B]

Yeah, they might be.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the future, though.

[C]

I know. My mom came to visit me in Phoenix. We have them all over Phoenix. And she was terrified. She lives in Indiana, so she's never seen that before. And she was like, wait a minute, there's no driver in that car. I was like, mom, this is the future. And she's like, I'm not getting in that foreign.

[B]

Guys, we got Alex Clark here. We're at Student Action Summit. What an event it's been so far, huh?

[C]

Oh, my gosh. This is a. This is a fun one because this is where the boys and the girls get to come. So we have our women's conference, which is in June every year in Dallas. There's always no issues, no drama, no issues with the girls. It's like everybody's just, you know, making daisy chains and, and. And singing and. And doing line dancing. And then you come to this one, it's like way rowdier when the boys. There's always all kinds of stuff going on. So it's just kind of funny how that worked.

[B]

Did you see the guy get arrested?

[C]

No. What was going on with that? Because somebody made a joke that Tom Holman, you know, got some illegals arrest as. I don't think that's what happened. I can't imagine any illegals were. It's asked.

[B]

I didn't see the full story, but a guy was protesting, screaming out of his car while driving, and then drove into a police officer's car. And then, yeah, he got arrested. There was a bunch of people watching it.

[C]

Dang. I'm sad I missed that. Yeah, that's juicy.

[B]

Pretty nuts. But you're right, though. Us guys, we like to be in fights and stuff. This probably doesn't happen at the lady events.

[C]

Well, and, you know, it definitely doesn't happen. Happen at the Soy Boy liberal events.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because, you know, there's no testosterone to be found even among hundreds of men at those.

[B]

That's an issue right now.

[C]

That's an issue. I just was in an Uber, and the Uber driver had, like, a pack of trees, you know, a pack of those car fries yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I had to hold my breath the whole ride.

[C]

Exactly. It's disgusting, right? It needs to be banned. None of the artificial fragrance air fresheners in a car. So I tell the Uber driver, I go, you real? That those are turning you gay?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And he was like, wait, what do you mean? And I said, your car air freshener is turning you gay. It is depleting you of testosterone. It is wrecking your hormones. He parks to drop me off. He immediately grabs the pack of trees and he puts them in the trash. Thank you for telling me that. Well, that's all it takes. That's all it takes.

[B]

I can't believe people still use those.

[C]

I just saved that man's balls.

[B]

It might have been the same Uber driver as mine from the airport. That was the longest airport ride I've ever had. I was literally like this the whole ride.

[C]

And you know, Airbnbs, that's one of the first things I do in an Airbnb is I, you know, scrounge around. I look for any of those scented wall plugins. I remove all of them. But those are all totally messing with your hormones, and those can make you very, very sick. It can make it hard to get pregnant. I mean, there's a myriad of issues with anything that has perfume or fragrance that's artificial in it. Your body washes, your deodorants, your candles. People forget about candles, any of that. You do not want that in your home. So I have replaced all artificial fragrance candles with beeswax candles. And not only are those healthier for you, they purify the air and they emit negative ions, which gives you the same, like, relaxed feeling that you get when you're at the ocean, when you're at the beach, that there's a reason why you feel so relaxed at a beach. People think, well, it's just because I took time off work and I'm on vacation. No, it's because negative ions are being emitted from the ocean and. And a beeswax candle will do the same thing. So, little life hack.

[B]

That's a great hack. I'm going to buy some when I get home.

[C]

Yeah, you need them. And sometimes you can get some with scents like, with essential oils in them. And so that would be natural fragrance and that's totally fine to burn.

[B]

I love that you mentioned testosterone earlier. Do you think there would be as many liberal men if the testosterone levels were raised by 100 points?

[C]

Good question. No, I think that is a major issue. And I think that we are seeing higher estrogen levels in, in identifying liberal men than we should be. And I think it's because of the food. I think that the fake, dead, ultra processed food that men especially are eating are totally wrecking their hormones and their testosterone. And I think when you see these like super emotional lib dudes out there, I think that if I would love to, I would love to set up a booth at an event and I would love to have them line up and get their hormones tested and see where their testosterone levels are. Because, yeah, I, I would beg to differ that they're probably low. And I think if you were to do the same thing at a Turning Point USA event with all these conservative young men, I bet their testosterone levels would be higher. But overall testosterone is lower now, 50% lower than it was in the 80s.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So there's still a problem overall and again, I think it's food related, but there's still an issue there. And also all of these artificial scents, artificial, you know, fragrances that you're using that men are having in their, your shampoos, your body washes, your deodorants, all of that.

[B]

And the WI F. The emf.

[C]

Oh, the EMF stuff is so serious. And people think that that's really. Woo woo. Nuts.

[B]

Where am I? Aries tech right now?

[C]

There you go. Yeah, you're on it. Yeah, the emf. I mean, I am. Every single night when I go to sleep, my phone is on airplane.

[B]

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[C]

Feel the drop and go code yourself.

Mode. I never, ever keep that on Bluetooth. And, you know, some people, I, I, I interviewed this guy, and he, he tests homes for a living. His company is called Test My Home. You spend a couple thousand dollars, he goes through, checks your air quality, he checks to see how many toxic chemicals are in your home. He checks for mold. And it's like a, He's a fascinating, just, he's a fascinating mind on all this. And he said that this one family, that he was checking their house, they could not figure out why their daughter was deeply sick. Couldn't sleep at night, had no idea what was going on. Come to find out, her wall of her bedroom, where she laid her head at night on her bed, her headboard was on the other side of the wall that was connected to the Bluetooth washer and dryer.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And it was causing her to get super, super sick. They turned, they disabled the Bluetooth on the washer and dryer. They moved it or something, and anyway, then she was sleeping through the night like that. Some people are not that affected by ems. Some people are highly sensitive. When I'm on a long flight and my phone's in my hand for the entire flight, I can start feeling a buzzing sensation in my hand and I start feeling kind of sick and stuff. And I have to, like, put my phone away and not hold it for a minute. I think sometimes if we really pay attention, we can start feeling the EMFs really affect us. But, yeah, that can significantly impact your sleep and anxiety levels.

[B]

I personally feel like shit inside of Tesla's.

[C]

Oh, I refuse to own a Tesla. Will never own one. For a myriad of reasons. One, I like to feel actual power in a vehicle. And I think it's creepy how they're like super silent. But I, I have huge concerns. I mean, they, I think they tell you, do not ever sit inside a Tesla as it's charging.

[B]

And I used to do that. Yeah, I felt awful.

[C]

Yeah, super dangerous. So I wouldn't be caught dead owning one.

[B]

I mean, it's, it's so noticeable where, like, I, if I Get an Uber. Like, I'll cancel it if it's a Tesla.

[C]

That's. Now that's another level. I respect it.

[B]

No, I get nauseous every time.

[C]

So waymos then. Would you do a Waymo?

[B]

I tried it in San Fran, but I was so preoccupied by the fact there was no driver ever. So I guess I wasn't thinking about it. Are those electric? I didn't know, though.

[C]

I don't even. I don't know if they are okay. I feel like they might be.

[B]

Yeah, they might be.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the future, though.

[C]

I know. And my mom came to visit me in Phoenix. We have them all over Phoenix. And she was terrified. She lives in Indiana, so she's never seen that before. And she was like, wait a minute, there's no driver in that car. I was like, mom, this is the future. And she's like, I'm not getting in that.

[B]

I was on your Twitter. I thought this was a bit of a hot take. I wanted to bring it up. Daycare before the age of three. You're against that?

[C]

Yeah. So studies show that daycare before the age of three is terrible for child attachment.

So in those first three years of life is really when a child's attachment develops and that affects you for the rest of your life with your work relationships, with your romantic relationships. And it happens in those little moments between mother really and child and those diaper changes and those feedings when it's a rotating.

Amount of caregivers that you have in a daycare situation. The child is. Is unable to. To build strong attachment with one caregiver. And they really just. It is the most important developmentally for that child to be with their mother as much as possible in those first three years. Especially now. Obviously, if you can be a stay at home mom or you know, work from home or whatever, and you're around your kids even more than that beyond the age of three, obviously, I think that that's even better. But for the. But if you absolutely have to work, those first three years are really crucial. And I am not the expert on that, but Erica Comazar is. And so she wrote a book called Being There. It's phenomenal. And she goes into the science and the data behind all of this. And I did a super viral interview with her on this subject. That's incredible.

[B]

That's good to know. Yeah, really good to know. Breast milk or formula?

[C]

Breast milk. So I know that the formula industry wants people to think fed is best. And obviously we're not advocating for any child to Starve. But the reality is the Trilite from.

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[B]

Outside the sauna.

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[C]

Breast milk is what is best for your developing child, for their immune system. And so that needs to be the first choice if at all possible. I would even do donor milk before I would do formula milk and rfk is. This is like a huge priority of the Maha movement right now is to totally look into the ingredients of baby formula. Because baby formula in America, there's more sugar in baby formula, some of these brands, than there is in a can of Coke.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

For an adult, not a brand new. Perfect.

[B]

That's baby crazy.

[C]

So it's really diabolical the ingredients that they allow in baby formula. And so we're calling it Operation Stork Speed. And RFK is going through and he's. He's getting a better look at some of these ingredients and what we really need to have in there and what we don't.

[B]

So nuts. I had the Maha girls on earlier and she was saying 66 grams of sugar a day. I think people are consuming in America, something like that.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not surprised.

[B]

That's so high.

[C]

I'm not surprised. Look how much sugar is in one crumble cookie. You want to talk about one of the most evil demonic brands in America today. It's crumbl cooking. There are more ingredients in that, I think, than a Coke in the serving size. The recommend, recommended serving size is, is just a small portion of that whole cookie. And I mean, that right there has more sugar than you should have in like a week. And what's really nuts, I mean, there's like 70 ingredients in these cookies. I'm exaggerating. I don't know. Exactly. So somebody's gonna be like, no, there's only 55. Okay. There's a ton of ingredients. I mean, gasoline is probably cleaner than a crumble cookie, but the owner is making millions of dollars off this product and really poisoning the American people with his. With his cookies. And he does this house tour on Instagram, on an Instagram reel. Somebody comes and says, let's look at the crumble cookie guy's mansion. And he's got like a whole health and wellness room and set up no way in there. And I'm like, this is the most evil thing I've ever seen. You're working on your health and wellness while you are making money basically raping the health of. Of Americans. It's diabolical. I mean, when you see that, it's just evil stuff.

[B]

I think, I think that company is like a billion dollar company now.

[C]

Oh, yeah. It's massive and it's very. It reminds me of, you know, the Sackler Purdue story, how they create this product, oxycontin, and they know that it's. It's starting. What we now know is the opioid crisis.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That Americans are dying. They're getting sick. Crime is rising. They know it's the pill. They do nothing because they're making so much money. And I feel like we're gonna have the same similar story with crumble.

[B]

That's scary. What do you think should be the fixes? Do you think it's education or do you think there should actually be some sort of ingredients get banned or something?

[C]

Some ingredients definitely should be banned, which we're doing with things like artificial dye, which crumble cookie is full of. So they're gonna have to make some changes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think education is the most powerful thing. More than anything, I think. I think Americans want to be. I think that they do not have a lot of the information.

[D]

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[C]

Thank you, Nation. Maha is really working on that. To make sure that people are educated to make better choices. But when they find out the truth, I think they will choose to not eat it. I mean, once you know this stuff, you can't unknow it. And, you know, people always ask me, like, well, don't you ever just crave Chick Fil A? Don't you ever just crave a Whopper? And I don't because I only eat real food. And once you train your body and your brain to only want real food, everything else tastes literally like sofa cushion.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it's disgusting. Like, it is dead food. It is doing nothing for you. Completely nutrient dead. So, yeah, I don't ever crave any fast food or any junk food. And I think that pisses people off because when I say that, it kind of brings to the forefront and convicts them that they can make these changes if they really want to do it.

[B]

Right. No, I relate to that. I grew up every day eating Burger King.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Now when I eat it, I get nauseous.

[C]

Well, and I did too. You know, I'm not Ms. Picture Perfect Wellness. Always been organic, healthy. I wasn't until like three years ago. I lived off ultra processed food. My dad recently died. In my opinion, based on an addiction to ultra processed food. He developed glioblastoma, brain cancer, and also heart failure, type 2 diabetes, multiple heart attacks, all kinds of stuff. And, you know, that was really hard for me because I obviously didn't know any of this until only a few years ago. And so then my dad's going through this and it's really too late. And my dad was only 57.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

So this is happening. The chronic disease epidemic in America is truly terrifying. And when you see places like CNN bringing up, you know, a couple measles cases and, oh, shouldn't we be so terrified about this or this issue? I'm like, have you seen the rates of people being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes every single year? Have you seen the rates of cancer under 30 exploding? Are you aware that infertility is rising 1% every single year?

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Where are the headlines and the sensationalism about these issues? That is the. The epidemic that we need to be talking about in the emergency. We've always had a couple measles cases. That's not new. There's nothing new there. It's just that they're trying to fear monger because RFK is in, you know, hhs and they want to scare people because of vaccines.

[B]

Ye.

[C]

Which is a whole nother story. But yeah.

[B]

And they want to make money.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Big pharma. They're kind of in bed with the news channels and everything.

[C]

Yeah. Hopefully that's something that we do this year. I'd like to see pharma ads banned off TV for good in America. You know, America and New Zealand are the only countries that allow pharma ads on tv. And the reason we do that is not. So you see some golden retriever frolicking in a field and you'll ask your. And you know, they're talking about diarrhea or whatever, and then you ask your doctor if you can take the pill. They're. They're putting those commercials on TV so that you will have controlled information from those news sources. The biggest advertiser on mainstream media news is pharma. And so that is why during the pandemic, you know, every broadcast sponsored by Pfizer and then we had no alternative information about the COVID vaccine or about anything else.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And so that is really particularly evil and a lot of spiritual warfare there with that. So I'd like to see those completely banned. People in other countries think America is nuts that we allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise on our tv.

[B]

Absolutely. Alex, where can people find your show? Thanks for your time today.

[C]

Culture apothecary. Anywhere you get your podcasts and real Alex Clark on YouTube.

[B]

Check her out, guys. See ya.