Amie Balesky: "I Talked to a Spirit Trapped in Hell, You Won’t Believe What He Said... | DSH #1611

Summary

Digital Social Hour – Episode #1611

Guest: Amie Balesky

Title: "I Talked to a Spirit Trapped in Hell, You Won’t Believe What He Said..."

Date: November 9, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly

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Episode Overview

In this compelling episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly welcomes back medium and spiritual channeler Amie Balesky. The conversation ranges from her experiences communicating with spirits in various states (including “hell”), the energetic effects and insights gained from objects and locations, intriguing spirit channeling stories—some deeply dark—and Amie’s daily life running a new egg business and coping with a debilitating chronic illness. The episode offers a raw, unfiltered look into Amie’s paranormal work, her philosophies on the afterlife, the interplay of darkness and light in humanity, and practical insights for those seeking connections with the other side.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Updates & Life Changes

• Amie’s Haircut: Amie shares she cut off most of her hair in solidarity with her childhood friend Christina, who’s battling late-stage breast cancer.
  • Quote: “She said, will you do it with me? And I said, sure.” (00:44)
• Homesteading & Animals: Amie now manages 48 chickens and 4 geese for her new egg-selling venture, tying her passion for energetic food to vibrational health.
  • Quote: “I do. Oh, my God. They are... my children.” (02:02)

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2. Animal Energy & Spiritual Communication

• Telepathic Human-Animal Connection:
  • Amie explains that all creatures communicate via vibrations and feelings and that with practice, humans can “talk” to animals telepathically.
  • Dogs “buffer” their caretakers’ energy; cats act as spiritual protectors—especially against hostile or heavy energies.
  • Quote: “Everything talks telepathically, right? Everything does.” (02:05)
  • Cats can prevent certain spirits from accessing the living, which Amie says she’s observed in multiple channeling experiences. (03:07–04:12)

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3. Health Struggles, Near-Death Experiences & Psychic Abilities

• Ehlers Danlos Syndrome: Amie candidly describes her lifelong genetic disorder, its impact after childbirth, and multiple health crises—including 28 surgeries and four near-death experiences, which she credits for sharpening her psychic gifts.
  • Quote: “That is where my little freaky gifts come from because I've had four near death experiences because of it.” (06:55)
• Sean and Amie discuss the emotional and financial tolls of chronic illness and the distorted promises of the healthcare system. (15:09–15:31)
• Amie expresses peace with the prospect of death, shaped by her ongoing dialogues with spirits.
  • Quote: “Oh, absolutely… I'm actually very excited. The only thing that I would feel is I would get… a little sad about not being around my kid and my family. But… it's a blink of an eye.” (15:42–16:10)

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4. The Afterlife, Vibrations, and Manifestation

• Food, Vibration, and Attracting Energy: Amie emphasizes how food quality influences energetic vibration and, in turn, who/what we attract spiritually.
  • Quote: “Whatever you put in your body… that lowers or raises your vibration… that goes into who you attract, that goes into God.” (09:01)
• Timelessness & Spirit Communication:
  • Time, says Amie, doesn’t exist in the afterlife, and spirits can appear as if at the moment of their passing—regardless of Earth time.
  • Quote: “You are both dead and alive right now.… All you are is the spirit looking through your eyeballs, having a human experience.” (16:39–16:59)

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5. Spirit Channeling Stories: From Hell to Heaven

A. Spirits in Limbo and Hell

• Brad’s Story (Spirit Released After Death):
  • Amie relays a recent session where a newly-departed man (Brad), a truck driver killed in an accident, lingered in a heavy state of confusion and remorse until his mother's spirit collected him and the energy “lightened.”
  • Quote: “Then he starts bringing up the two dogs, which means now we're talking to him in heaven, because dogs only exist in heaven.” (00:00, 18:01)
• Description of Hell:
  • It’s not fire and brimstone, but a cold, dark, stagnant condition—associated with a lack of energy and self-realization.
  • Quote: “It's not fire and brimstone. It is dark… freezing… the absence of energy.” (19:12)
• Helping Spirits Elevate:
  • Amie cannot force spirits to “move up” from hell; they must realize and resolve their energies on their own.

B. Haunting & Disturbing Cases

• The “Hell” Client—James:
  • Amie recalls a channeling with a woman seeking her boyfriend, who murdered his two sons and himself. The spirit, stuck in darkness, exhibited vulgar and hostile energy, while the sons were at peace in a higher state.
  • Quote: “The first thing he said is like, ‘oh, you're talking to my little slut’… And she was like, I just wanted to see if he still loves me. … That boy is not feeling any love at all.” (22:23)
• Animal Souls’ Purity—Kirby and Daisy:
  • A case where a man killed his girlfriend’s two dogs in brutal ways, yet the spirits of the dogs only radiated love.
  • Quote: “But the dog, instead of being mad, he was like. He didn't love. Wow.… I cried for like a month.” (24:57)
  • Amie reflects on the necessity of darkness to understand light, both cosmically and personally.
  • Quote: “You do. I mean, even with you, the darkest parts of you still live inside of you. You just choose to not, you know, look at it.… We do need to look at it that way we can understand what light is.” (25:43)

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6. Haunted Objects, Energy Residue, and Paranormal Investigations

• Objects and Spirit Residue:
  • Amie describes conducting experiments with objects containing ashes (ex: a TikTok personality’s mother’s ashes) and the energetic feel they emit.
  • Quote: “Now I have a lot of dead stuff in there.… But I did. I noticed something different and I started looking around because I kept feeling this woman… she would never go away. And so that is miss Randy Club.” (11:51)
• Jeffrey Epstein’s Doorknob:
  • Amie visited and touched Epstein’s NY townhouse door, describing an overwhelming, negative energetic download and affirming, “Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.”
  • Quote: “When you do this and you touch something like that, you get thousands of pictures that just… Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.” (14:43)
• Haunted Artifacts & Skepticism:
  • The Annabelle doll, according to Amie, is not haunted except by collective belief and fear—energy manifests according to attention.
  • Quote: “All it is is fabric and fluff. And then your ideas putting that energy into it manifests… not a negative entity.” (27:52)

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7. Crime Solving & Psychic Evidence

• Helping Locate the Missing:
  • Amie relates a case where she helped a woman’s family locate her missing grandfather’s car and remains, which was later confirmed with DNA.
  • Quote: “They ended up going through and they found his skull.… That was kind of cool.” (31:43–31:54)

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8. Developing Psychic Abilities & Philosophy

• Everyone Is Psychic:
  • Amie encourages everyone to develop their intuitive senses, explaining that “we're all freaking antennas,” but most dismiss or rationalize their experiences.
  • Quote: “Everybody has it.… They go, that's not real. Or I can't say it to somebody else because they'll think I'm crazy.” (37:06)
• Energetic “Cords” Between People:
  • Any meaningful encounter or relationship (not just sexual) leaves a lasting spiritual connection or “cord,” making sporadic, meaningful telepathic events possible long after people part ways.
  • Quote: “You and I are connected. You and I, because we have met, we will always be connected some way.… That cord remains.” (39:26)
• Spirit Communication Tools & Classes:
  • Amie offers classes on channeling, emphasizing the importance of learning spirit’s language: signs, symbols, feelings, and words connected to one’s own memory banks.

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9. Memorable Stories & Notable Quotes

• On Death & the Afterlife:
  • “You have never ceased being a spirit. You are both dead and alive right now.” (16:52)
• On Universal Darkness/Light:
  • “The darkest parts of you still live inside of you. You just choose to not, you know, look at it.” (25:43)
• On the Annabelle Legend:
  • “Bring Annabelle to me… I will sleep with its side unseen, hug it for a week… I'll let you know that it's not a thing. But if people believe that it is, then they will have that experience.” (28:55)
• On Spirit Guides:
  • “She won't reincarnate right now. She's probably going to end up being a guide for her son.” (12:59)

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:00–01:18: Amie’s story of talking to a spirit in “hell” and the emotional shift as he’s received by loved ones in “heaven.”
• 02:05–03:11: Telepathic communication with animals; cats blocking negative spirit access.
• 06:55–07:41: Near-death experiences, psychic development, and physical health battles.
• 14:33–14:48: Touching Epstein’s doorknob and receiving a torrent of negative visions.
• 18:22–19:06: “Hell” as absence of energy, conditions of spirits in lower vibrational states.
• 22:23–23:19: Channeling the spirit of James, a murderer struggling in the afterlife.
• 24:57–25:43: Animal afterlife, dark human actions, and the purity of animal souls.
• 28:55–30:09: Annabelle doll and collective manifestation of energy.
• 31:43–31:54: Assisting in finding a missing grandfather via channeling.
• 37:06–37:38: “Everybody has [psychic ability]… some people are just living more in the Matrix than others.”
• 39:26–41:17: Spiritual cords, enduring connections, and messages through time.

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Final Segment: Where to Find Amie Balesky

• Website: thebaleskyexperience.com
• Socials: All platforms searchable as “TheBalesky”
• Services: Private sessions, group classes on mediumship and spirit communication.

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Host’s Closing:
Sean thanks Amie for her honesty, openness, and deep conversation, encouraging listeners to check out her work and pursue their own spiritual development.

Transcript

[A]

He was like, I'm so sorry. I didn't know what to do. And then he kept flashing me what his body looked like, like, completely charred. And I was like, it's okay, Brad. You're good. Don't worry. But, like, as he accepted that he was fine and his mother, who had passed the year before, was there to get him, you could feel this. This, like lightning in the room. And then all of a sudden, the conversation went from very heavy and very sad and my client even felt it to very, just like, good. Then he starts bringing up the two dogs, which means now we're talking to him in heaven, because dogs only exist in heaven.

[B]

Okay, guys, Amy is back on the show and she cut a lot of her hair off. Thanks for coming back.

[A]

All of it. You're welcome. Thank you for having me.

[B]

What made you do that?

[A]

One of my ch. Well, my longest running childhood best friend. Her name is Christina. She ended up finding out she had stage three, going into stage four breast cancer. And she has family, but they didn't want to cut their hair off. So she said, will you do it with me? And I said, sure. Wow.

[B]

What a great friend.

[A]

Yeah, that's it. And it was great. It's a whole full refresh. And let me tell you, it makes it feel so much better.

[B]

Nice. Yeah. What's new with you? Anything crazy since last time we saw each other?

[A]

Just more channeling, just more spooky stuff. Just more feeling and just, you know, learning how to talk to spirits better. That's it. Nothing crazy, though. Not. I mean, besides getting geese and more chickens. That's it.

[B]

How many chickens are you on now?

[A]

48.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

We have four geese.

[B]

So they just keep multiplying.

[A]

I. Well, they don't multiply. We bought them because we're going to start selling our own eggs. And so we have all these movable coups. And so. Yeah, that's. That's why.

[B]

So you're gonna start an egg company. Wow.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What an interesting business to start, isn't it?

[A]

Yeah. No, it's great, though. Well, because nobody. I mean, you think about the eggs that you get at the grocery store, right? And I mean, yes, a lot of them are what we call cheap or even before, like, the whole egg crisis. Right. But they're not really a good quality. And whatever you put into your food, that's what goes into your body and that's what makes you. Right. And so that can either raise or lower your vibrational state or give you cancer or whatever it may be. So I was like, well, why not? You know, bring good eggs to the world and happy chickens.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Done.

[B]

Do you talk to your chickens and your geese?

[A]

I do. Oh, my God. They are.

[B]

They understand you, My children.

[A]

Oh, well, I mean, everything talks telepathically, right? Everything does. So if you start to practice with them, whether it be your dog, your cat, or whatever it is, you can get these little feelings. You get these vibes, and. And if they start to learn that you are actually talking to them in that way, right. Then they start to learn how to communicate back.

[B]

I definitely feel like dogs can communicate.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Because what. What they do is they, you know, everything is feeling, right? Everything is vibration. So when you give the feeling of, you know, please go that away, or do you want food? Food is a particular feeling, and the. The feeling of hunger and want is very particular. So when you give that off, they react. Yeah.

[B]

Do you feel like dogs absorb your energy sometimes too?

[A]

I think they buffer it. They buffer it. They come in as a neutralizer. But I do have an interesting thing about cats. So anytime I go there and I channel people that maybe have a spirit or a loved one that's in a middle vibrational state, so maybe they through and they died of a drug overdose, or maybe they committed suicide. And they were actually really negative. Like, I small short story here, but I had a session with a woman. Her husband, at that point, he was in a really, really dark place. They'd been together for, I think, like 12 or 15 years. And he was actually using his addiction to kind of keep her in line, right? Like, oh, if you leave me, I'm going to go through and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to, you know, take myself out, right? Well, essentially one day, um, she said that she was gonna leave him, and she found him dead in the next morning in the bathroom, right. Of a drug overdose. So going back to cats. What does that mean? So she ended up getting two cats afterwards. And when I was channeling him, he literally said. He said, I can't get close to her. I can't get in her head because she has these cats. And I have found that to be true over multiple, multiple, multiple times. So I don't know what it is about the vibe of cats. And I've also noticed it with my own, right? So sometimes I may have a really, really heavy session day where I lot of those over and over again, and my cat will just want to come up and, like, lay on my chest and do it. But other days, when I only channel people that are in heaven. He's like, have a great day. I don't need you here. Goodbye. So I don't know.

[B]

So cats are very spiritual.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I don't know.

[B]

They do have very piercing eyes.

[A]

They do, right? And they can feel everything.

[B]

Yeah. That's crazy. Yes. I've heard that with crows, too. There's sort of an in between, Right?

[A]

Absolutely. I haven't been able to, like, find crows yet, but maybe that's my next thing, honey. So my husband's out there, in case anybody wants to know. Yeah. So we'll buy crows next, and then we'll share them and we'll bring them, and I'll, like, bring one next time.

[B]

So you're gonna start a little sanctuary?

[A]

Yeah, I would like to. I mean, as I have more time. But I mean it also with, like, animals and stuff, it's also hard because as I get older with my illness, I get more chronically ill, and most of the time, I do use my cane and I, you know, all of this stuff and so.

[B]

Dang, you're on a cane now?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I have a cane. I have a wheelchair. I have a handicap sign. I try to, like, not, um, because as soon as I give into it, you know, it weakens your muscles and everything even more. But there are some days that are really, really nasty.

[B]

When did that start? Have you always had.

[A]

Yeah, I've had a genetic condition my entire life. Is that crap after what happens with it? It's called Ehlers Danlos syndrome, in case anybody wants to know. But what happens is that you're actually not supposed to have kids, because what happens is that that chemical prolactin, I think it is, correct me if I'm wrong, it goes in and it makes all your ligaments really loose. Right. When you have a baby. But when you have Ehlers Danlos syndrome, everything is already. So essentially, it makes it loose and looser and it doesn't go back. So my skin and my tissues, bones, ligaments, they're already really, really thin and loose.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Yeah. Loosey, goosey. Everywhere. I can pick up skin.

[B]

Holy crap. Everywhere.

[A]

I mean, including, you know, wow, your eyelid. Yeah, I mean, I mean, everything. Everywhere. And so people used to think that I have a mask on all the way through. But that also, you know, deals with your joints, because when you're walking, you know, usually your ligaments are holding your joints in place. I think about when I'm walking, it's going, wow. Which creates more arthritis, which Creates more issues.

[B]

So didn't you know that when you had the kid or.

[A]

I did not. I knew that I was messed up. I knew I had something, but I was gaslit by doctors for 10, 15 years, you know, and then I ended up getting really pissed because the only reason why I found out is because my. Essentially I was lifting up a pile of laundry and I sneezed. And when I did it, not even a big one, like very small. And when I sneezed, my abs ripped from my. Right here all the way down to my pubic bone and my guts.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, it was terrible. It was terrible. So we went to the ER and they were like, we don't know what. What were you doing? What were you doing? So I have my entire stomach mesh all the way down because of it, and then from there.

[B]

And you're still working 12 hours a day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Doing readings for people.

[A]

Yeah. I've had. I've had 28 surgeries altogether, including brain surgery. You name it, the whole nine yards. But I also. That is where my little freaky gifts come from because I've had four near death experiences because of it. Right. So I had cancer when I was 5. I had my second one because of. I now know it was from my Chiari malformation stuff. And I ended up getting meningitis from it. And then I ended up having my brain surgery that ended up having me to have the experience of me floating out of my body, seeing it and everything like that, and realizing that the world is just not only fucking amazing, but there's more to it, right? Like your consciousness lives on. And then my third one was because my bladder. The most interesting time in your life is when you're at work and you sneeze and your asshole falls out. Let me tell you that.

[B]

What a statement.

[A]

What a statement. Okay. So anyways, with that, with. With all that prolapsing, I can't feel my bladder or when I go potty or anything better if it's full. And so because I only have one kidney, I end up getting a really, really, really bad infection. Sometimes not so much anymore. So much. But my kidney went into failure and yeah, that was.

[B]

So do you have to go to the bathroom on a timer then?

[A]

Yeah. And I used to have to cath all the time, so I used to carry them. Actually got out of the speeding ticket because of that one for. Because I had to pee and I was like, I gotta go do this. And I busted it out and he's like, go, go.

[B]

Yeah, I've had that same thought. If I'm, like, driving fast, I have to go to the bathroom and I get pulled over. Yeah.

[A]

Just bring a cath.

[B]

I would just tell the cop, like, officer, I'm leaving. Right. Like, I'm walking out of this car and being on the side of the road.

[A]

Yeah, do it. Do it. Be like, sir, I'm gonna poop on myself. No, but that's. That's how it works. So it is. It's a. It's a benefit. Right. Because it gave me this. This thing, and it also made me slow down because if I didn't have that, my God, I would be doing something else.

[B]

That's nuts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A lot of people are dealing with health issues these days, right?

[A]

Oh, yeah. A ton of food. Oh, we won't. That's a whole nother thing. The toxicity of the food.

[B]

Yeah. That's a big rabbit hole. Right. But now they're tied in.

[A]

And remember, whatever you put in your body that lowers or raises your vibration, and that makes you either. I mean, that. That goes into manifestation, that goes into who you attract, that goes into God.

[B]

That's a whole nother level. So if you're just eating processed food all day, your vibration is most likely.

[A]

It'S going to be low. Yeah. And then you're going to attract things that are lower. Right. So you're going to attract cancer and all these other things. Right. I mean, cancer, what is it? It's. It's cells that are dead. They're dead, and then they keep multiplying over and over again. I mean, there are some people. Like, when I was five, I obviously wasn't eating a crazy amount of processed food, and I got cancer. They took out my kidneys. So why is that? I don't know. Probably because my dad was 55 when he had me and my mom was 36. They attribute it to that, but, you know.

[B]

Yeah. That is pretty old, right? Higher chance of health issues.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[B]

Any wait, first of all, what is. What's in this thing right here?

[A]

So right here, there is a gentleman online. His name is Chris Brown. Not to be, you know, confused with the singer.

[B]

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[A]

But Chris Brown went through and apparently about a year ago, he sold his mother's ashes online on social media. And from the story that I know, his mom was not a very nice person and a very, very mean person. So when she ended up passing, he said, I don't want him. And so she. He essentially did a bidding online for people that wanted the ashes. So one of my other content creator friends, she didn't buy it, but he essentially reached out to her because she deals in death and dying. And he said, hey, I want to give part of it to you. And so she said, okay. So anyways, Lauren ended up coming over to my house and she made it a joke to leave his mom's ashes in my session room, hiding in a certain location to see if I would feel the difference in vibration because I'm very used to what my session room feels like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now I have a lot of dead stuff in there. Okay. I do. I have ashes of chickens, other people, my own family, you name it. Like, it's the whole nine yards. But I did. I noticed something different and I started looking around because I kept feeling this woman, this is African American woman with me. And I'm like, what is this? And she would never go away. And so that. That is miss Randy Club.

[B]

Shout out to miss Randy, guys, We love her. I've actually never held ashes. So you're saying the spiritual energy is still around with us.

[A]

It can't. So remember, I don't know. So how does this work? So I have never met her in my entire life. Right. But when I hold this, this was a part of her. So this is the only thing I have of her that would connect me to her energy. Right. It was like when you go to a cemetery, the. A lot of the small people, sometimes, yes, there are a couple spirits that hang out in the cemetery. Absolutely. But the only reason why, if I go to a cemetery, and I. And I sit by a certain grave from a. You know, 100 years ago, and I start calling on them is. Because that's the only place in this world that they still exist. Right. That their. Their vibration, their name, all that. The house is gone, the family's gone, nothing's there. There's no books about them. There's no pictures. That is the only place.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what if they reincarnated, though?

[A]

So a lot of times with. With this, like, she won't reincarnate right now. She's probably going to end up being a guide for her son. And actually, I was messaging yesterday because I made a little video on this. Um, and I said, if there's something that you want me to ask your mother, please write it all the way down. And I will go through and I will channel her, and I will bring out all my equipment and so. And my spirit boxes, and that way we can see. Do we get any responses? And she is around. She is here. She is, you know, in all these places. But I want to get, like, an Also a physical response.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you can also leave energy residue on objects. Right. Because I know you touched Epstein's doorknob.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You picked up on some stuff. Right.

[A]

That was weird. Okay, so. Yeah. So about five. What is that, honey? Oh, he's outside. Sorry. Probably about four years ago, summer of 2021, we decided to take a trip, a road trip from Houston, Texas, all the way up to Winter Harbor, Maine, to go see our friend, other content creator Jacob Knowles. Shout out Jacob with his lobsters. And on our way up there, we stopped by New York. And so we were staying on the Upper west side, I think it was. And one of the things that I wanted to do is I wanted to walk by and I wanted to see it. So my husband and my son were just like, we're not going to go over to it. So they're on the other side of the. And so I scamper over, and I look at this big house door, and it's this big brass metal knob, and you can just feel, like, the coming off of it. And you're just like, oh, my God. It was like walking into, like, I don't know, a death chamber. And so I went up and I, like, touched the doorknob. And it's interesting, when you do this and you touch something like that, you get thousands of pictures that just. And you could feel that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.

[B]

Wow. But, yeah, that is crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because the government Says otherwise.

[A]

Well, I mean, the government says a lot of things.

[B]

They do. You know, I start to wonder, like, is. Is. Are they just putting on a show, you think?

[A]

I mean, the whole thing's a show. Everything's a show. This whole world is a show. This is a show. Literally, everything is a show. So. Of course, yeah. I mean, the government also said that health care can be affordable.

[B]

I wish.

[A]

I know. Wouldn't that be nice?

[B]

I can't imagine with what you're dealing with, how much your bills are.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Believe me, if it hadn't been for my military insurance before, I'd probably be about $2 million in debt right now. Yeah. But at this point, I have my normal doctors. I'm okay. I've kind of put off a couple surgeries because they want, you know, 100k before we have them, and I want to spend it on chickens.

[B]

You know, priorities.

[A]

Right. Yeah, priorities.

[B]

Chickens over your health.

[A]

Yes. I mean, maybe I'm ready to go to the next frontier. Okay. Maybe that's it.

[B]

Have you accepted death?

[A]

Oh, absolutely.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah. When it happens, I'm actually very excited. The only thing that I would feel is I would get. This is where it gets weird. I would get a little sad about not being around my kid and my family. But I also know from channeling spirits that it's a. It's a. A blink of an eye. And by the time that I get there, I would see you, I would see my son, I would.

[B]

They'd be there because there's no sense of time in the.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

After life.

[A]

Yeah. There's no time at all. And the more that I channel, the more I think that sometimes when I channel that, I'm actually talking to the spirit at the moment of their passing. Even though it may have been 10 years ago. I can't quite figure that out. Maybe there's some human brain thing that I. I just won't ever be able to. Because time doesn't exist.

[B]

Well, they say that it doesn't exist. Well, 3D time is linear, Right. But they say as you climb dimensions, time doesn't exist.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but all those. All those dimensions exist right now too, right? You know, they all exist here. I mean, the afterlife exists. Like here. We're sitting in it. You have never ceased being a spirit. You are both dead and alive right now.

[B]

Wow. Crazy to think about it, though.

[A]

It is. It is. All you are is the spirit looking through your eyeballs, having a human experience.

[B]

Nuts.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

So when we pass away, have you Ever seen a spirit that was, like, angry or sad or emotional? Oh, you have?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So they still feel emotion?

[A]

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Emotion is a vibration, especially spirits that are in the middle or spirits that are in, like, this kind of, like, waiting area trying to figure their out. So, I mean, just last. What was this last Tuesday? Um, and this is where I think maybe I talked to them, like, the time that they passed. So essentially I was going through and I was channeling for this woman. It was. It was a wife, and her husband had, like, recently passed because it was. It was an expedited session. So when I was going through and I was channeling him, his name was Brad. And he essentially was driving along and he decided that he wanted to drink these little, you know, red. Red shots or hot shot, you know, the cinnamon flavored ones.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, fireball.

[A]

Yeah, fireball. Yeah. While he was driving a semi, and he was like, oh, I'm just gonna go home. Because he was driving, like, some sort of dump truck SEM to go home. He ended up falling asleep at the wheel, and he ended up crashing into a ditch and into a tree. And then the car blew up.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Instantly dying. And so when he was talking, he was actually an alcoholic. He had been an alcoholic for a while, but it was closeted. And so she ended up finding all this stuff in his car and all these receipts. Long story short, short, when I was talking to him, he was like, man, I just want to go home. I'm so sorry. I didn't know what to do. I'm just, like, in this complete, like.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Yeah. And then he kept flashing me what his body looked like, like, completely charred. And I was like, it's okay, Brad. Like, you're good. Don't worry. But, like, as. As she accepted that he was okay, as he accepted that he was fine, that his mother, who had passed the year before, was there to get him. You could feel this. This, like, lightning in the room. And then all of a sudden, the. The conversation went from very heavy and very sad and my client even felt it to very. Just like, light and airy and good. Then he starts bringing up the two dogs, which means now we're talking to him in heaven, because dogs only exist in heaven. Or he's talking about his. His son that was like 4 years old at the time, like, all these things. So, yeah, that's what I'm. I'm trying. That's like my next frontier. I'm trying to figure out that.

[B]

So no dogs in hell. That's Good to know.

[A]

No, absolutely not. But there are men and there are women.

[B]

Oh, for sure, yes.

[A]

And there is a hell. Now, it's not fire and brimstone. It is dark and almost like blacker than. Than that over there. And it is cold. Think about like what it's like to have the absence of energy. Right. It's free, like it's freezing or what? We take that or it's like slush or it's. And essentially you have a single. When I. When I see them, there's like a single light that's illuminating their face. And they're just like, what are you doing here? What are you doing here? And remember, usually bad people don't think they're bad. Right. Evil people don't think they're evil. So therefore they have to come to some realization that they are not a shithead. And then they move up into a higher vibrational state. Because remember, even this evil or this hell or whatever you want to call it, is a part of what we call God or source.

[B]

I was just going to ask. Have you helped someone die? Someone from hell?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I. I haven't really. Let's just say I haven't really helped anybody go from there. But I've read them.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Because.

[B]

And they had to come to the conclusion on their own.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Elevate, huh?

[A]

Like the guy that decided to. Oh God. This was such. Can I tell you a semi graphic story?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll forever remember Holland.

[B]

This deserves a deep one.

[A]

Yeah. I will forever remember this one. My God.

[B]

Wow. You've done a lot of sessions, so this one must really stand out.

[A]

I have. There was this wonderful, beautiful blonde headed woman. She was probably 24, 23. And she said she wanted to channel. I'm just gonna say his name is James. And you can feel her ever hopefulness, her like, like that type of energy. And as I go through and I'm channeling him, I don't feel him in the higher, I don't feel him in the lower. So I start getting all like dark. And I feel him there, right? And he's like. The first thing he said is like, oh, you're talking to my little slut. And I'm like, okay, I don't really know how to express this. And so he's like, no, you're talking to my. And I'm like, oh, well, this is why. And you can feel the sexual energy. It's like. But like negative sexual, not just like creation sexual. And I look at her and I was like, weird. I said, he keeps, like, referring to that you're like a mistress. Or like, maybe he wasn't fully committed. And she was like, I was. And I was like, oh, okay. Like actually his mistress. And she says, I just wanted to see if he still loves me. And so I'm like, okay, well, let's figure it out. Now. I already know he's in a lower vibrational state. So that boy is not feeling any love at all. Like that. That is not flying. And so I start feeling. And I was like, what happened to you? And he's like, are they there? Where are they at? And it's like, you can hear this in your brain. Where are they at? Where are those stupid boys? Where are they at? And I was like, okay. He keeps talking about something like, boys, so like, maybe two. And they're not with him. He was like, oh, they're up there. They're up there. They're around his. They're, you know, their mother. And he goes through and he makes me hear what sounds like the offload of shotgun, like, that whole thing. He makes me feel trudging through really tall grass, like, up to the knees. He makes me see ducklings that, like, walk behind their mom. He makes me hear the opening of a. Like, something metal or like a metal door.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That can be rusty because you can smell it as well. I said, I don't know what he did with, like, two boys in the grass. I said, maybe this is a shed or something like that. And he's mad that they're not there. And she was like, oh, well, he. He murdered his two little boys and then shot himself in the head because the wife found out that he was sleeping with me.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And she was going to leave, and so he did that.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah. The boys were like seven and ten.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Just point blank murdered them. Left them in the shed with him.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Yeah. So when I talked to him, let's just say he was not in a very good place.

[B]

Yeah, that's dark.

[A]

But the boys were in a higher vibrational state. They were in heaven, but they didn't have anything to do with her. Right. Because literally the demise of them was because of their relationship.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah. So they weren't going to come through and talk to her.

[B]

Wow, that's a crazy one.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I was very dark.

[B]

Yeah. That one probably kept you up for a bit.

[A]

Absolutely. Or like, the man. I mean, the dogs were in heaven. The man's still alive right now. He graduated. He. He got jail time, which is good but he went through, and he was. This was the first time I ever realized that dogs are the purest souls imaginable. And I've talked about this before. There was this woman. She came to me, and she wanted me to channel two dogs, Kirby and Daisy. She's literally said that in names. So I'm going through, and one of the dogs made me feel what it's like to have, like, my neck held and then go into water and come back up. And they made me feel the burning sensation of drowning. Drowning is a very specific feeling. When you go and you channel that, like, it feel, it makes your lungs feel like they're going to explode. And then all I keep hearing is, but I love you. You. You don't love me. I love you. You don't love me. I love you. Like that over and over again. And then all I hear is, like that. Like this thump. This thing. And then that's it. Essentially, he went over to one of them, which is the one that I was channeling, which is Kirby, and he picked him up, and he was essentially. The girl was breaking up with him. He broke into her apartment, got their. Both dogs, but this is with him, and he was drowning him in the bathtub and picking him back up and drowning him in the back, picking him back up. And then what he went through is he went and he slammed his head against the wall multiple times. Obviously, it rendered him unconscious. And he did it until. Well, to not be graphic, but like a popped watermelon, essentially.

[B]

Gosh.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So. But the dog, instead of being mad, he was like. He didn't love. Wow. Why? Oh, my God. I cried for like a month.

[B]

That's so messed up. To kill a dog like that.

[A]

He killed both of them. He burned the other one with an iron.

[B]

What?

[A]

And pulled all his hair out.

[B]

Evil must have been demonically influenced.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He must have been possessed. Right. There's no way any human would do that.

[A]

He. Yeah, I mean, there are. There are. But remember, we. I think this is in a weird sense, but I think those people are here to show us the darkest side of humanity. There's a reason why they decide to play that role in this play that we're having. Having here.

[B]

So they're needed. Yin and yang. Yeah. I used to believe in let's all get along Kumbaya. But I think you need some dark.

[A]

You do. You do. I mean, even with you, the darkest parts of you still live inside of you. You just choose to not, you know, look at it. But yet at the same Time. We do need to look at it that way we can understand what light is.

[B]

So you think everyone has some dark in them?

[A]

Oh, absolutely. Everybody does. The nicest people can be the meanest because they know that.

[B]

Yeah, No, I agree. Because when people are too nice, it's like a red flag to me. You know what I mean? Like, what are you hiding there?

[A]

Because they're not comfortable with learning about that. And then they also want to appear fake for other people.

[B]

You've been going to any haunted locations lately?

[A]

Out in the woods, which is great. Haunted location. The whole thing. The whole thing is a haunted location. You know, I think. I don't know if I talked about this, but my. Where I live at is in the center of, you know, five or six little old plantation towns. And there are all the cemeteries in the world, and there are all these old, old 1850, 1820 homes that are just decrepit inside of the woods. And so I go out there by myself and I sit in them and. And I have a great time. And there's no cell service out there. So my husband, after about three hours, you'll see that he's like, tried to call, but it won't go through. And, like, where are you at? And I'm like, I'm sorry. I was feeling Daniel from like 1730 or whatever it is, you know, or this trapper. And then also the area that we live in there were. The original Native American tribe was called the Caddo Indians. They were super, super, super peaceful. They were really, really good. And then when they started moving the Native Americans to try to get them off the land, they brought the Cherokee in. The Cherokee were. Were vicious. And so they went there and they slaughtered. Yeah, like, a lot of them. And then they went through, and obviously the US Came in and just said, nope. And they moved them all away. So, like, the land that I live on had all that happen as well. So I can just go outside and get some really cool things.

[B]

Good old woods.

[A]

Good old woods. Woods are great.

[B]

Did you see what happened to the guy that was looking over the Annabelle doll?

[A]

Oh, that. That is. That is the biggest crock of I've ever heard in my life.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes. Yeah. The only reason why that doll is freaking haunted because everybody believes it is. It's not. All it is is fabric and fluff. And then your ideas putting that energy into it manifests. Manifests itself into, like, a negative entity, which is not a negative entity. It's the conscious decision of everybody believing that it is negative. The guy didn't die because of Annabelle, the die. The guy ended up passing away. God bless his soul, by the way, and so many condolences for him and his family. But he passed because there was an underlying condition, right. And he was probably really, really stressed because he's taking this doll on tour, everywhere, all this stuff. He's probably not eating that. And in a sense, he ends up dropping like a fly. And so, no, I. I actually made a video recently, and I said, you know, bring Annabelle to me, or I will fly to her, and then put me in a room. I will sleep with its side unseen, hug it for a week, and then we can go through, and I will show my entire life after that for a month, and I will let you know that it's not a thing. But if people believe that it is, then they will have that experience.

[B]

Interesting. So dolls can't be haunted if. If you don't believe it's haunted?

[A]

I think to a certain. So they can. They can have residual energy from things. Right. Like, I have a doll that was given to me by a client. Now, my client, it was her great grandmother's doll. And let's just say this. During the Blitz, During World War II, they lived in row houses over in England. And when the Blitz happened, the only thing that they brought out of their apartment that was completely demolished was this doll. And most of her family died in the Blitz in that apartment. And so when she got the doll, like it's this big heirloom, her dog started going crazy. Things started happening in her home. It was really, really weird. And so when I had a session with her, I actually brought up the doll during the session, had no idea. And she says, do you want it? I was like, absolutely, yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, send it to me. And so I went through and I did a whole. It's actually on my page. It's on my. All of my social medias, and I did a investigation, and I don't think the doll itself is haunted, but I think when I go through and I felt her, that the spirits of the people that passed around her, they were coming through, because, again, that is the last place that they got it.

[B]

Some leftover energy, huh?

[A]

Residual energy. I got some really weird stuff. And so, yeah, her name is Katie, and she sits on my haunted wheelchair.

[B]

A haunted wheelchair?

[A]

Yeah, I have a haunted wheelchair. I just bought it recently as a gift to myself. It's from an insane asylum in Virginia for women. And it even has. Where the straps would go, and it's in my bath not my bathroom, my bedroom.

[B]

Does it give you nightmares? Sometimes.

[A]

I had some very interesting things happen, but I've never had any nightmares.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, but I. I have gotten EVPs. I've had my REM pods go off. I've had some really cool feelings for it, and my husband just, like, doesn't look at it nice. That's it.

[B]

Yeah. Have you ever helped solve a crime.

[A]

In my area in a red state? That's not something that people, you know.

[B]

You can't use it as evidence.

[A]

Yeah, you can't use it as evidence. Have I been able to help somebody find their grandfather? Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Oh, that's cool.

[A]

Yeah. So there was this session I had probably about two and a half years ago, maybe three years ago, and this woman said, you know, my grandfather died. We don't know where he went, and we can't find him. And so essentially, the grandfather came through, and he showed me that he was in his car and he drove off this kind of cliff. Like, think about if you're going around a mountain, but the hillside, there's a drop, but the sheer drop is only about 30ft. I mean, only. Right. But it's in a forest. And so essentially, he showed me that he either fell asleep or I think he had a stroke and he went off of it. And he actually, because of the impact fact, he died in it. Well, they ended up going through and they found his skull.

[B]

Wow. That's cool that he could provide closure to that family.

[A]

Right. So they went through and they got DNA evidence, and that was the same car and everything like that. But they couldn't find the rest of the body because of the fact of, like, animals coming in and doing. And, oh, wow. Getting it.

[B]

So that's nuts.

[A]

That was kind of cool.

[B]

That is really cool, man. I'd love to see you in an antique store just touching stuff.

[A]

Oh, they're fun.

[B]

They're fun, right?

[A]

Yeah, they're fun. If you go to a real one, like, if I go to, like, Natchez, Mississippi, or if I go to Vicksburg, Mississippi, I'm obsessed with, like, some Civil War, Revolutionary War, all those things, all. I mean, how old houses. You walk in there and. Because remember, on some level, that reality is still existing. And so when you go in there and you feel it, you're getting those flashes. It's because you're getting transported to that area for a second. Your little wires are intersecting.

[B]

That's cool. So do you get visuals with your eyes open or do that?

[A]

Yeah, close. Absolutely both. Yeah. There'll Be. Sometimes you can ask my husband that will be walking. This actually happened, I think it was last night. We were going over to get some soup dumplings. As I'm. As I'm walking, I just stopped for a second and I'm like. And he's like, what are you doing? He's like, come on. Come on. It was like 9:30 at night, and I'm like, drop dead here. He was like, we don't have time. We don't have time for this. He was like, we gotta go pick up our food. And I'm like. And you could see it. You could see, like, the ambulance or you could see the. The people. Not the ambulance, but the people around him. And, like, the EMT like to help him. And so I went online last night and I was, like, linked then. Of course. Remember Vegas? They don't say anything.

[B]

Yeah. Was this in Chinatown or was it.

[A]

No, this is here.

[B]

This was in Vegas at the Wind. Oh, so you were going to. To the Asian spot. I know exactly where you were going.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I was right there. I was like, right as you get out of the elevator. And then. Not the one with the crystal dragon, the other one there with the soup dumplings and the great crispy pork belly. And so I, like, stopped. And I'm like, holy. And it came. And as soon as it came, it left. Whoop. And then it.

[B]

Every hotel here has had a lot of deaths.

[A]

No, I wanted to go to the Luxor, but then the more haunted ones, I know. With everybody jumping off the middle of it. I know. I told my husband, I said, I want to go there and feel. And he was like, no, it's ghetto. And I'm like, you know what? Whatever. Yeah, I'll go.

[B]

I'll get 20 bucks a night, you know? Yeah, it's a good deal.

[A]

Oh, I saw the YouTube videos on it. I was like, oh. Because I remember coming here. I only came to Vegas before I started doing shows here. I only came to Vegas one time, and it was when I was 12. So that was back in the year 2000. And, like, the Luxor at that point was. Was popping, still jazzy and popping. Right. And so when we came back, I was like, let's go view it. And they're like, no.

[B]

Yeah, Luxor Circus Circus is haunted. Treasure Island. All the older ones.

[A]

Oh, the people that died in, like, the lake on Treasure Island. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, people died in that.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. They got drunk and they were. They would. They would jump in there and they would drown or. That was a Whole big thing.

[B]

Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, I moved here a few years ago. That is crazy.

[A]

Sounds like we need to go do some Anna and take your wife. We need to go do some spooky.

[B]

Yeah, we gotta do something. I sent you to the museum last time, right?

[A]

Yes, yes. Okay, so I did that. Zach Baggins, by the way, I am Holly Madison's friend, so I am Team Holly.

[B]

Is that the wife?

[A]

That was his. That was his 10 years running girlfriend.

[B]

Got it, Got it.

[A]

Okay. So I have to be a girl's girl. Okay, Zach, you're good, but I'm with Holly. Okay. But anyways, so I went there. The people that work there are amazing. A lot of them knew who I was, which is really cool. So we had a great time there. But the feels in there automatically, as soon as you walk in there, they try to make you feel the feeling of fear. So if there are any evil things in there, remember, in order for something to stay alive, it has. Has to feed off something, right. Or like attract that. So if they're already coming in and making you feel the feeling of fear, therefore those entities are going to be able to fear fe, you know, feed off of it. And also those people are then going to experience that. Right. So I went in there and I'm like, okay, whatever. Fake clowns. And like a lot of smoke, like, whatever. But there. There were a couple of things that I did get some really interesting feelings. So the chair, I think it was a rocking chair. I got some really into, like. Like I felt like I was falling through the floor. And that is a spirit coming through. It essentially makes you feel like. Like you're going down. And that was the spirit coming into you and, like leaving again. There's some. I don't know what it does to you, but that's just what happened. And then over in where the stuff for Titanic was, I got some very interesting feelings. Interesting, very interesting images and feelings. But I've also had some very interesting, interesting feelings happen at the Titanic. Titanic exhibit in Florida, in Orlando, where the. I don't know what you call it. The thing that they went like this, you know, to make it go or make it stop. I remember touching it. You could hear like. I will never forget that. Wow again.

[B]

Yeah, I imagine there's a lot of fear and panic on that ship and all the energy left over, right?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah. There's a titanium museum in Vegas, too.

[A]

Oh, I know. It's in Luxor.

[B]

Luxor, yeah. You might have to go.

[A]

I know. We'll have to go.

[B]

There's actually a piece of the ship there.

[A]

Yes. I touched one.

[B]

Oh, you did?

[A]

I have touched. Yeah. The one over in Florida, in Orlando. They have, like, the large about. It's like, three times the size of this wall.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah. And I went up and I. Like, there's a whole vibe.

[B]

Yeah. The one here is pretty big, too. That's so fascinating how you have that ability to touch stuff and see the story.

[A]

Everybody has it.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Everybody has it. And everybody experiences. But this is what they do after they experience it. They go, that's not real. Or I can't say it to somebody else because they'll think I'm crazy. No, we're all freaking antennas.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

Yeah, a thousand percent. Except some people are just living more in. I hate to say this word. I hate to say this word. Some people are living more in the Matrix than others. Right? Yeah.

[B]

You think people can control electricity? Because I had a guest on your channel and dude was popping off.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Like, the screen was going off and on.

[A]

Yeah. You are electricity. Everything is. Have you not seen the whole thing of, like, what they figured out that you are just little. I don't even. This is not even the correct word, but little beams of light. Your whole thing, you are just little beams of light. That's all you are. And so essentially, if you go through, your mental state is amazing. It's like a laser. So on some level, if you can go through and you can figure out how to harness it. Right. Just like we figured out how to harness, you know, lightning or harness electricity. You can make shit turn on. Doesn't matter. Now, one of my things that I want to do later, probably when I retire, is I want to figure out how to do. I forget what you call it right now, but, like, where you move things with your hands.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I've seen that.

[A]

Yeah. Because I. I know that's a real thing, but I want to do it in the most, like, controlled way. So I want to be in a room, no AC. I don't care if it's 90 degrees outside. I'm in Texas. Piece of metal. It has to be metal at first because that's the charge or something that will hold a charge. I want to put, like, a Plexiglas box around it. And then I want to sit there and I want to focus, you know, I want to see if I can move it and then build them from there.

[B]

If you could pull that off, that'd be massive.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's my next thing.

[B]

I was always skeptical when I see videos of that.

[A]

But, well, so that's all the reason for it is because these people, they're like, look, I can move this, this piece of aluminum. And I'm like, you know, there's a fan over there behind like, what are you doing?

[B]

Yeah, I've seen the one with the wind outside moving the trees. That was funny. Yeah, you.

[A]

Yeah, that's. So we can even do that. That's a whole mental thing.

[B]

Yeah. Well, Telepathy Tapes is a game changing documentary. Have you seen it yet?

[A]

Oh, I read. Yeah, I listened to it all, all the way through. But like, those are the things I already knew. So when I was going through and I was listening to it, I was like, yeah, yeah. I'm glad everybody else is coming on board at this point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, because like right now, you and I, and this is, this also works for when you are in spirit or just when you don't have a body. So you and I are connected. You and I, because we have met, we will always be connected some way. Now our channel will end up, you know, depending if we talk or exchange energy more, our channel will get bigger or it will get smaller. But that cord, I hate the third eye thing. You still have a third eye. It's everywhere. Okay. But anyways, that cord will stay there. So it may be one day, you know, 15 years down the line that I get like this random feeling or this random message for you. I'm going to reach out and you're going to be like, holy crap, that just happened. It's because that cord remains. So when you love somebody and when you're connected to them, whether it's your dog, your grandmother or anything like that, and they cross over, that cord doesn't go anywhere. Wow. And so now you just have to go and you have to figure out how to make it bigger. And so when you go through and you start getting into deep grief, you, you shut down your cord. You shut it down and then you get to a lower vibrational state from where your loved one is. And so when they're trying to come in and connect with you, they can't, they can't get in. Okay. Or the other thing is that they are on a lower frequency, like tuning into a radio station. So if you're super, super sad and you are in this place of almost like, sorry, suicidal or unaliving, whichever one you want to use unaliving, and you're. It's your mom and she passed of cancer and and it was a beautiful closure. And you're in that state. She's gonna be there, but you're gonna feel like she's not even in the room. Room. That's it. So it's your job to kind of let that go. Be in the moment, raise your vibration, Realize now, that doesn't mean that you don't need to be sad. Being sad is okay. Absolutely. Because even me, I do miss calling my dad and saying, let's go get Italian food.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I mean, I know he still goes to me and he hops in my body, he eats it. That's a whole other thing. But I do miss that purpose. But then from there, you have to learn how to realize that everything is. Is a sign. It's not just butterflies. It's not just bees. It's nothing like that. Like, they are literally manifesting and helping you manifest your world for you. Because remember, your universe, like, right now, you and I, I like to call it bumping universes right now. So outside of this, nothing exists. Right? Out outside where you're looking, nothing exists. The only reason why I think that my husband and my son are out there is because I have a belief. And that belief is so strong that when I walk out there, they manifest themselves there. That's it. So in spirit, they're here, but they are also outside of that bubble. Right. And so they're always looking in, they're always there. They can come and they can interact with you. And that also means that they can place things in your world because as you shift, as you move, you're consciously creating.

[B]

Interesting. Wow. Yeah. I've heard of that spirit cord thing.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

The one you mentioned earlier, how we're all connected, but I, I thought it was only sexual partners.

[A]

No, no, it's everybody. Oh, my God, it's everybody. Oh, I, I, I tell people, like, when I meet them, I go, okay, I'm gonna give you messages sometimes, and I just want to let you know that. And they will just randomly pop through. Like, I could show you things, but, like, this was last week. I went and I did the video, or I went to did the, the slew of videos with Katie Santry, the one that found the rugged in her house. Like, it went viral on the Internet and all that stuff. And so I went to her home. Now, her and I have only hung out there, but we do talk every once in a while. Like, once every two months. And so this was last week, I think it was on a Tuesday, if I could recall. I woke up I was taking a shower, and as soon as I got outta the shower, I absolutely heard this in my brain. It was a woman's voice. And she says, tell her she was always meant to find the rug.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

And I'm like. And mind you, this comes in just like. And she's always meant to find the. Like, it's this, like, epic, like, Mufasa coming from the clouds type of sound. And I'm like, what does that mean? And I'm like, oh, my God. She was always meant to find. That means she's supposed to be doing this. Oh, my God. And so I went through and I got. I voice message her. I was like, katie, I said, I just got. I know I haven't talked to you, but I just want to let you know somebody just popped in my head and they said to remind you that you were always meant to find the rug. Like, this was a thing. I got a call and a text message within one minute, and she says, amy, I have been really doubting myself, as. Do I still create content? Do I stay on this path? Am I supposed to be doing this? Am I doing something wrong? She says, I was online looking for other jobs last week because I had no idea. And she says, I literally just got off the phone with my mom crying to her because I didn't know if I should continue this trend. And I was like, they're reminding you that you were supposed to find the rug. And anyway, so she called her mom. Her mom freaked out. It was the whole thing. But, like, that was the side that was.

[B]

That's nuts. So. So fill me in. What's. What's going on with the rug? I don't know about the store.

[A]

Oh, oh, so the rogue. So this was last July, I think it was. There's a woman, she went online, she had like, you know, 100 followers or whatever it was. She's up in Ohio. And all of a sudden, last time I was in Vegas, actually, she's up in Ohio. And she went out because I believe that they were trying to build an extension onto their deck. And they found about two feet down, this rug that was wrapped up really, really old, and there were remains inside of it. And so essentially she just did a quick video, like, hey, I don't know if I found dog remains, but it's really weird that we found this old rug that has, like, bones or something in it. Like, maybe this is somebody that was. Was murdered because it was under the house. And so anyways, because of that, people online were like, you need to Call the police. Right? You need to do this. So she called the police. The police came out. She made a video of that. They brought out cadaver dogs because they couldn't tell the cadaver dog sat, which means, yes, this is. So she's filming all of this. So within, like, two days, she went from like, 200 followers to 2 million.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

All the way. Because everybody was following this story, and she's like, I've been experiencing really weird things in my house. I've been having these. These really weird spiritual things. Like, I don't believe in spirits. This is really freaky. What do I do? So essentially, two different. I mean, a lot of mediums reach out, but two different mediums. We reached out, and I was one of the first ones to comment, and I was like, I go, well, I mean, it may be there. I said, I don't really think that. That it is anything, but if it is, you know, what you do is you. You tell me, love them. You know, you tell them to move forward, all this stuff. And I said, or I can just come up there and we can figure it out ourselves or whatever it is. So Matt Frazier, who you just recently had on, ended up doing a. A live reading for her from, you know, via Zoom, I think was. Excuse my French, I don't know what it is, but. And then essentially we went through, and I flew all the way up there, and we did this whole thing, figuring it out, and are you ready for this? So essentially, there were no human remains in the rug. Okay, they found that out. But what I figured out is when I first got there, there was this woman, and I got the name Margaret, and this is all documented. And I was like, weird. I was like, who's Margaret? Or who's Maggie? And she was like, amy, she says, there was this weird pole for this house that is the next house over. So it's her home. She's living in a little neighborhood, her home, another home, and this other home on this cul de sac. And she says, I have just always felt so pulled to her. And I said, who is it? And she says, oh, she died in her house recently. And they found her a couple of weeks later, and she was a hoarder. She had decomposed in her home. And so the home was all barred up and everything like that. And I said, I. I think maybe Margaret is trying to get through to you in order to have somebody reach out to help her move forward, because she's afraid. So anyways, we got there, and what do I do? I Take her over to the house, and we essentially go in there and there's all this tape. And we could go into where the. The old porch was. So we opened the door, we sit in there. I bring all my spirit boxes and I can feel her. I can feel her, like, hiding in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Margaret. And it says Margaret on my spirit box.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Holy. Yeah. Anyway, so long story short, we went back and we had all these different sessions. We. We filmed this. This really, really cool just event of, like, trying to figure out, is it somebody that was buried there? I found out a lot of cool things about her property. But essentially at the very end of it, I think it was Margaret that was doing all the crazy things. But that is. That's who kept popping up. Those were all the feelings. And she was able to fact check the things that I was getting as. As far as, like, mediumship goes. And they were all correct. And after we did our sessions over two nights, all of the activity stopped.

[B]

Interesting. But she passed through. So what were the bones in the rugs if they weren't animals? Oh.

[A]

But the whole thing was that the dogs sat and so everybody's like, oh, my God, somebody got murdered. They wrapped them up in a rug and they buried them underneath their. Their porch. And I did a lot of research on the property beforehand, and it was kind of part of the Oregon Trail. There were battles that were fought around it. It was where they were holding Confederate soldiers, like during the war. I mean, so the whole thing is like a hot spot of activity too.

[B]

Yeah. So it could have been someone's dog and just buried them down there. Y.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Dang. That's a crazy story.

[A]

Yeah, but that's. That's how that happened.

[B]

Yeah. Rest in peace to Margaret.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Exactly.

[B]

Well, Amy, what are you doing next? Where can people get sessions off you and keep up with you in that way?

[A]

Yeah. So if you want to, you can go on my website. It's the blesky experience.com youm can visit. Visit all of my social medias. It is all the same. So it's the BSky T H E B as in boy A L E S K Y. All of my sessions are on there. Remember, I also teach classes. So. So anybody can channel. Everybody can channel. All you have to do is slow down, learn to feel, and learn the language of spirit. We all have it inside of ourselves. So essentially, when spirits talk, they talk in signs and symbols, they talk in feelings and emotions. They go through and they take any memory that you have in your brain and they use that. And the last thing is they talk in words. Remember, the only ways that spirits can talk are by using things that you already have downloaded in your brain. Because your brain is computer and they are the operator.

[B]

Ours. Check her out, guys. Thanks for coming on again.

[A]

You're welcome. Good to see you too.

[B]

See ya.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

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