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In our culture, though, is the amount of. I say, pesticides and GMOs that have been taking place within, like, not just, say, within our lands, but in our genetic strength within the livestock. Does that make sense? It's like they've eaten it for so long that they've gotten weak, and now it's like, when the tissue gets really weak, it makes it more susceptible to the parasites, really.
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B
Okay, guys. Chris, Molly, back in business, man. We're in Nashville.
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A
In Nashville, man. Back in my hometown. My neck of the woods, man. Do you come here often?
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B
Because of you. Yeah, I'm here like, two, three times a year now. You know, it's always a good time with you.
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A
Oh, man. You too, brother. You too. Like, I mean, I always think there's, like, a similarity between. Here in Vegas, though, it's pretty similar.
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B
A lot of good young energy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. Was it natural where the average age is 30?
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A
Some town I heard about it has grown so much. I remember before in this area, back about 20 years ago, there was nothing here. There's like, no. No growth or anything. So. Yeah. Vegas, though, is exploding.
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B
Vegas and Nashville. Yeah. Everyone's leaving Cali, dude.
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A
Everybody is. Is that, like. Is Vegas like the new Los Angeles?
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B
It's hard to find real estate in Vegas right now.
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A
Really?
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B
Houses are scarce. Yeah. Well, plus the interest rates are so high.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And Hollywood's moving there. Mark Wahlberg's building a studio there.
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A
He is.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Wow. What about, like, taxes?
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B
Are taxes pretty good still no tax?
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A
No state tax.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's not.
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B
You guys have no state tax here?
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A
No state tax. Now, that's. A lot of people move here. I see. There's a lot of people that come in from California. Like, especially, like, down near the office. There's a ton of people from California. Everybody's. Literally, if you people that moved in, out of 15, it'd be like 12, 13 are from California. So.
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B
Yeah. What have you been seeing lately with your patients? Any new parasitic infections?
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A
One of the biggest things, though. Yes. Is quite a bit of, like, they call them protozoa parasites. But what you're seeing is a lot of parasitic infections that come in through definitely through tap water and through lakes and rivers. As controversial and as unpopular for me to say that. For instance, I had a patient that came in and he went down to Costa Rica.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And he was. It was in the evening time, and he took his family there, and they went down the slide. His kids want to go down the slide. He says, hey, we don't have enough time I want you guys to go to bed. We just got here. We'll come in the morning and do it. So they go down the slide. He says, man, I had the water shooting up my face. I get all this stuff in my eyes. He says, the kids all going to the bottom pool. We're just dunked in the water. He says he sees a friend the next day and he asked, he says, hey, I'm glad that you know, that they had the signs out. And he's like, what signs are you talking about? And apparently says there's a brain eating parasite that's been in the water sources.
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B
Whoa.
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A
And don't put your head underneath the water.
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B
Oh my gosh.
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A
And so they were all like a little scared. And so they were like trying to get testing done to say, well, my brain still feels okay. But even though that seems like just a story to be heard, there is a lot of cases where people come in and Lily have come in and they had bloating. They've. They said, oh, I've got bloating. Literally that makes me look like I'm pregnant. And then I'll do some investigation. And it's not me being smart and finding everything. But what you would find is that person spent a lot of time like in the lakes and rivers and they say, oh yeah, I went out and I swam quite a bit, swallowed a little bit of water, and it all happened after that.
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B
Wow.
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A
A lot of it like that.
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B
Man, that's crazy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
As a child, I used to love going in the rivers and the streams and lakes. Kind of, kind of sucks, knowing what we know now.
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A
Oh, and if you read like city reports, a lot of city reports will be inundated with what they find in the city water. And there will be cities that says that we have high amounts of giardia, like parasites in our water. And they never tell you. And in fact, when they do test water, they won't test for like the roundworms, the actual adults. They only test for the cysts. So you're not going to get the full report. So you could be drinking water and they think, well, you know, I have a filter on my refrigerator and that should be good enough. But when we're talking about cyst and some worms, they're microns small, like you're not going to catch them in your filter.
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B
Wow.
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A
And they'll just be floating around.
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B
So nasty.
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A
As negative as that sounds, man, there is like, we'll find quite a bit of individuals that say that that's the number one complaints Like, I feel like I'm pregnant. They'll blow it up or after they drink water. Clear signing of Paris.
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B
Damn. What about the ocean? Is that safe to go in?
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A
I've never had too many incidents. I had one patient that went into the ocean and he. After he went on the. It was. Where was that? It was on the. Near 30A, I believe. But he found. He was walking and he cut his foot. And he had a small worm that went up into his foot, and it was. You could see it on the inside of his leg. And he said he felt it move all the time. And so his mom would say, don't worry about it, just let it die off. But there's reports of that type of worm, and when you study it more, that individual had horrible muscle issues, almost like ALS stuff. But they found out that that type of worm actually lays thousands of eggs.
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B
Oh, my gosh.
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A
I. I'm not. But when I found. I saw it, I was like, did you get that removed? Because you could see the trail on the leg. Never got it removed.
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B
Geez.
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A
And they like. It'll come into your feet. That's how most parasites get in your body, though.
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B
Through the feet.
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A
Yeah. That's why whenever you have, like, individuals again, I'm all about being outdoors, loving nature, doing things outside. But a lot of your parasites are in the dirt.
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B
Wow, man.
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A
And there's.
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B
They say to ground, but at the same time.
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A
That's right.
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B
They don't tell you about the parasites right underneath you.
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A
That's exactly right. Everybody's like, you need to go out and ground and put your feet in the dirt. And I think it's great. And I. I think you should ground, but be mindful of the area you're in when you're grounding. I had a little. Little guy, great little patient, and his mom uses this homeopathic. So he had issues with stutter. Like, he wasn't talking yet, but he had a little bit of a stutter. And we were finding out that every time he would have nightmares, he was having, like, these explosive diarrhea, and he was wetting the bed. And he's only not even two years old. And I examined him and I. I was pretty certain. I was like, he has parasites pretty heavily. We could go get a blood test or we could get a stool sample. So they were looking into stool, nothing. And then we found, like, we did homeopathic treatments, like, little homeopathic, some herbals. And this little guy, man, I mean, he's not even 2 years old. He was in his diaper. 30, 40 flukes, like large flukes coming out in his diaper.
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B
Oh my God.
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A
And it was happening for weeks on end. So it wasn't like he was just, you know, basically saying, oh, you know, like it's just a happenstance thing. It was happen all the time, like for about two weeks. And you'll see things like this. Our parasites actually can grow for long rates and for fast rates, actually. So those are my stories. I have quite a bit more, but I don't want anybody to think I'm like anti lake or anti ground.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Anything of that.
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B
No, that's insane, man. Was that the worst case you've seen? That little two year old?
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A
That was one of the wor. That was a pretty harsh one. One of the worst I've. I personally seen was a patient who had a really bad case of strep. And what that means is people can be silent carriers of strep. And so for anybody out there that's had strep and they've always had like reoccurring strep throat. I'm not saying parasites caused it, but this young man, whenever I would test and we get some testing done, we found it, we started treating it with herbals and cold laser and we started to use different herbs for the strap. Now some of them were herbs that could kill off bacteria and viruses, but some of them went into parasites. And one of the worst cases was his mom brought a picture and when he had used the restroom, it, it looked like a whole web or wiring of like parasites, like in this, like a ball. It looked like somebody took a tree root.
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B
Oh my God.
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A
And stuck it in. In his. And basically in his underwear. And it was still. The worms were really large. So anybody that saw it would look at it and say that that's definitely worms. That was probably one of the worst. But the, the kicker was this. The kid had eczema all over and when that came out, his eczema went away.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah.
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B
So that means a lot of eczema is linked to parasites there.
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A
It definitely can be. I don't say that it's the actual cause, but I would say it's a very big link. So any individual has like eczema, a lot of psoriasis. You're usually looking at people that have lots of candida yeast or parasites in their digestive tract. Wow. Yeah.
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B
What about acne?
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A
Acne, definitely it depends on this, the placement of acne on the body. So if you look at the face is what I suggest is Get a Chinese facial reading map. Look at where your acne's at. Identify the organ according to the face. That's probably where you're gonna have parasites or yeast. Pretty much, yeah.
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B
It's fascinating how much of the body is tied together. Like you could do that with your teeth, with your eyes.
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A
Oh. And that's what we do in Chinese medicine when people do like any type of virtual or any type of call. With me, you always find out what tooth is the one that gives you the most problem. Which one keeps having a cavity, which tooth keeps having gums that bleed around it, Any receding gum, like on one tooth or two teeth. And if you keep having some cavities, like in the jawbone, like a cavitation, you identify the organ with that. And that's usually where you'll find parasites. Damn. Tongue wise too, man. I mean, I know this may. I hope this doesn't bore the crowd, but I would say that if you look at your tongue, the tongue shape, tongue color, cracks in the tongue, the way the tongues, like, basically has indentions on the sides would tell you if there's parasites or an infection in the organ.
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B
Just from the tongue.
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A
Just from the tongue. That's why when you go to Chinese medicine practitioner, they'll show you their tongue.
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B
Damn.
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A
And you can tell right off the bat, like, if they have purple tongue or dark tongue, you know, that a person's pretty sick.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Holy.
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A
Yeah. And I mean, you can look at. You can see those things.
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B
Yeah. And with the eyes, when they're yellow, that means you're sick, right?
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A
Yeah. Usually it means they have quite a bit of jaundice. Or when they say yellow, it really means that their liver is so sick they can't metabolize their bile.
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B
Damn.
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A
So it's just like all the tubes going back to the liver probably got some form of infection in them. That makes sense. Definitely.
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B
What have you seen? Have more parasites, factory farm meat or wild game?
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A
Oh, that's a good question. Now, there are some new factory. I say farm meats, like even farmed fish that have been shown that they're raising them in the most humane way, where they're actually giving them good food and they're not showing as high of parasitic infections more than likely. Like, if it was a regular farmed versus, you know, wild, I would find more parasitic probably within the farm because the conditions that the. The livestock or the game is racing is a little bit harder. The problem is, though, is that, you know, if. If they're in livestock yards or if they're in an environment where there's too much fecal matter, those eggs and those cysts are in there, and they're like. And the other animals are walking around in it. So if they're basically waddling around in it, they're inhaling it, they're inhaling it, they're putting on their skin. And. And what I've forgotten, too, and I think many individuals out there is that parasites love to go through your skin. Most people think you can just get it through what you eat or what you, you know, that you drink. But a lot of it goes right through the skin.
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B
Wow.
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A
And it'll go right through the. The skin of an animal. And so I would say mostly farmed. I. And I think that now they're trying to say that there's new regulations, but you have to be really careful the regulations about what's farmed and what's, you know, basically life. So is there, like, a lot of constituents within that? There is, brother.
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B
Yeah. I could see that. Yeah. It depends on the brand, too, right?
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A
It does. And I think there's. There's great brands out there, though, now. Like, there's great foreign brands and there's great live. They. Everybody that has an idea of how to make it better is coming out with it. I would say the only problem we're having, though, is. I don't say the only. There's many other problems, I think, with parasitic infections, though, especially within our culture, though, is the amount of, I say, pesticides and GMOs that have been taking place within, like, not just, say, within our lands, but in our genetic strength within the livestock. Does that make sense? It's like they've eaten it for so long that they've gotten weak. And now it's like when the tissue gets really weak, it makes it more susceptible to the parasites.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So how common are parasites in, like, cows and regular animals?
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A
Very, very. The. The thing that. What gets me is that the. The tissue, like, within the muscles, it depends on how thick the muscle is within the certain area of the body of the cow. That's where the parasites would love to go first because they always love proteins, they love their vitamins, they love the sugars. So they go to the joints of the animal and they'll go to, like, the tissues where it's the thickest meat. And so depending on what they feed the cows, what would make the cow not have parasites? You would have to go back in the 1960s where they fed them actual really good minerals. They Covered their, basically their feed with really good mineral powder. And, and now what they were doing was they were trying to cut back on how much they had to spend on livestock.
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B
Right.
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A
And so when that happened, you started seeing the cows get sicker.
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B
Yeah. Because they give them GMO corn. Now. Barely any of them are grass fed anymore.
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Barely. And in the, the corn basically gives them diabetes. And so that's when they say we marble them, it's like, well, we're giving them diabetes basically to have like really soft, juicy meat, you know, like. But I mean there's, but I would say this though. Anybody that's out there that is livestock and knows probably has a lot more information on that. But that's what I think essentially is happening.
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B
Yeah. Do you think humans are over sanitized right now?
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A
I think they are, brother. I think that the one thing that you see back in the hand sanitization days, like the old story where I think, I believe it was a nurse and she was trying to figure out a way to not have to use wash her hands so many times in a day. So she found like, we had to put alcohol into jail. And in some ways I think it can work. I, I'll tell you a quick story though. I did, I got a biology degree in my undergrad and that was one of the first experiments we did. We literally had to go to every nasty thing that we could find and swab it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we went and we, we went to public toilets, we went to computer labs. Remember back in the day, computer labs? We went there, we went to door knobs, we went everywhere we could find and then we cultured them. And surprisingly, the computer lab was the, the dirtiest.
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B
Really?
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A
Even from a toilet seat.
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B
Wow. The keyboard.
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A
The keyboard was the dirtiest. And then we would grow and you would find everything it would find. You'd find fungal stuff, you'd find bacteria, and you found like certain forms of like even yeast on these areas.
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B
Huh.
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A
But when we started using like, you know, sanitizers, we put everything on them. Now if they've changed, probably, I mean, back in the day, they probably changed. But we found out that when we left the sanitizer on the sample, we had to leave it on more than 48 hours for it to make a change.
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B
Damn.
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A
So you had to leave it on there for 48 hours. So it says 99% reduction.
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B
Yeah.
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A
If you leave it on there for a long time, if you do it real quick, it's not going to kill the, the bacteria.
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B
They don't tell you that part, they won't.
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A
They won't. They. In the lab testing, they're not going to do it. Maybe they changed, but now they're finding, you know, they talk about mrsa, how every, like staff that's really resistant to antibiotics. If you have a bacteria that can be resistant to an actual antibiotic, your disinfectant better be pretty strong to break through the shell of that bacteria. That's what I've seen. So are we over sanitized? Yes. And I hope. This is like the one thing that I'm really concerned about though, is what you see is, you know, you've had the people on the podcast, they talk about having good probiotics in their gut.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But a lot of the good biotic floor is on your skin. So what it does is it produces enzymes. It helps protect you from the, I don't say the harmful rays of some, but it helps you with sun metabolism, and it also helps you with, like, fighting off infection. But what happens is when you put a sanitizer on there, you disrupt the biome on your skin.
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B
Right.
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A
And what happens if you start killing it off? You allow, actually, in my opinion, probably allow. There's some space for other infections to get in the body if you kill off the biome. So the hardest thing is, I think there's some reports that I've read that may confirm this, but I've seen it in the practice is that individuals who are over sanitizing, if you keep injuring the biome on the hands, a lot of the bacteria will go inward.
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B
Wow.
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A
Okay. So what happens is you'll find individuals not only have staph in their, like, basically staph aureus, which is like a staff on the skin, but why would you find it in really high amounts, extremely high amounts in the nasal area or in the digestive tract? It's a natural part of your body in some ways. But what happens, it moves inward, and then when you eat your regular sugars and such, they metabolize it. So we're injuring the biome on our skin, they're moving inward. Then we feed our body's regular sugar and then they grow.
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B
Jeez.
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A
And so that's the other flip side of like using sanitization. Now, I'm not saying it's bad to do it. Please don't take that from this. But I would say using it all the time is you really need to make sure that you can use a product that would actually feed the biome and take care of the biome and take care of the internal biome.
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B
That's good to know. Yeah. Because people use all sorts of stuff on their skin. Man lotion, body wash, body wash.
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A
I, I think it's really great. Like calendula and olive oil. I've seen people that just used basic olive oil and, and some castor oil to like clean their. And there's some products out there. That's all I use is stuff that's olive oil based.
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B
Yeah. Dr. Bronner's. Yeah, that's a pretty good one.
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A
It really is good though, isn't it? Have you seen his story though?
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B
No. What happened?
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A
I don't know all the story, but you know, on the bottle. Okay. So I know this is like a sidetrack, but on the bottle has all this verbiage on there.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I think the experts would come talk about Dr. Bronner. He developed this product and I'm not saying he had. I don't, I don't want to use this. It may sound harsh. I think he had some mental. Not maybe some mental dysfunction or he felt maybe he was getting older maybe, but he would repeat things over and over again. And they showed him and he was saying these words and he. Maybe he was getting downloads. I don't know. I. But he would write them on what he was, what he was saying on the bottle. So he had different verbiage on there. And so his family took over and started creating this product.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. And I don't want to say that he had dysfunction. I just didn't if it was or not because there's a documentary on it.
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B
Wow. I need to look into that.
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A
Look into it. It's really, it's really interesting and maybe I have it wrong, but it is really, really cool though.
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B
Yeah, that's not. Yeah. Just be mindful of what you're putting on your skin, I guess with sunscreen and shampoo and conditioner and.
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A
Oh my man. It's like if you put sunscreen to me is probably one of the biggest things that you have to really be aware of. Really? Yeah. Like even the stuff that they would say is like not organic, but they're.
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B
Natural mineral based ones.
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A
Mineral base are not too bad. Sometimes the mineral base don't work as well as I think the. That they would want them to. Yeah. But again, the mineral base are trying to keep it healthy so they're not going to maybe protect as much. Maybe there are some good products, but sunscreen and lotions are some of the biggest estrogen mimickers. So if you do have an issue with Retaining too much edge. Strain. You're putting on too much weight. If you have a family history, if your family says, I have swelling in my, you know, swelling around the body, water retention. Be mindful of the lotions and the sunscreen. Need to research and find out which ones are pretty clean.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because you won't metabolize them, Right. Yeah. Yeah.
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B
How did ancient civilizations deal with parasites?
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A
Oh, man. That's a good one, brother. Well, I would say, since we both have Asian in our heritage. Yeah. But if you're looking back, even in Korean culture, Korean history, they would use a lot of ginger and crush red pepper and gochujang and, like, red bean paste. And what they knew is that if they put those red hot peppers and they put garlic in there and they put chives and they put. Basically it's in a soup pot. They put everything that could probably kill a bacterial infection or a fungal infections, because they would use, you know, with my family, they were raised in the. The mountains, and they would put pretty much all the things they could into a soup to keep health, you know, to survive.
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B
Right.
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A
So they use those things to actually kill off the actual infections within the food. Like, if you ate wasabi and you ate ginger, those are naturally gonna kill off parasites when you eat sushi. So that's like what you follow it with if you went to Italy, like, they have some of the lowest rates of heart disease. They have some of the lowest rates of digestive imbalance, because what do they eat? Oregano and rosemary and olive oil, which are all. They're astringents. They kill off infections. So these cultures were using the spices, which we think were just, you know, making pizza taste delicious, to, like, really kill off infections. And in fact, in the office, though, man, rosemary is. Rosemary and ginger are two of my top herbs that would kill off. Well, I can't say that, like, it kills off, but I've seen it reduce strep signals. Extremely good.
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B
Wow.
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A
Extremely. Well, bad English. Sorry. And you would, like. If you took ginger and they say it good for your stomach if you had recurring strep infections, if you just ate ginger or drink ginger tea for, you know, for a month or two, you would see a huge reduction.
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B
Damn.
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A
Yeah. That's how they used back in. Back in the olden days. And, you know, here we got to America, all we did is use processed sugars and coffee, and we really didn't, like, use, you know, or basically spices. I don't know of any big stories about American culture where we had, like, all These are the, that the spices of America. I don't, I never heard that at all. But if you look at Ayurvedic, Ayurvedic would use like turmeric and they use cumin powder and all those, man, they will kill bacteria, they'll kill viruses, they'll kill. I mean, they will kill parasites. So some people say, like, how do they survive? They just use their food as, as their medicine. So. Yeah, I think it's interesting, man, it is. I, I think that when we eat food, if you can indulge in your food but have good spices on it, you'll have a healthy gut. But it's just nowadays we just, we just feed our bodies a little too much sugar.
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B
Yeah. You know, also, I studied a lot of religions and they all incorporate some form of fasting.
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A
Oh, yeah, that's right.
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B
I think that helps the body reset too.
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A
Oh, completely. Like, and then now it's. Was the Japanese scientist that talked about autophagy. It's like when it resets. Now it's. They're saying, yes, there is validity to it and you know, centuries of religious practices saying, yes, it's been right all along. But autophagy, though, to me, fasting, people say, do you think people should fast? I get this question a lot. What do I think? I think different genetics, different individuals are more geared for fasting than others. And so I think it works. I, I myself fast till mid morning.
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B
And so you're intermittent fasting. Yeah, I do that prolonged one.
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A
I have, I've done a few almost where. I've gone 12 to 14 hours.
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B
Damn.
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A
Yeah, but I don't.
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B
I thought you were going to say days.
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A
No, no, no, no. I've done that for almost two, two weeks straight. But I don't, I try to, I tried to do it for my body frame because, you know, like, you're tall. I'm decently tall.
- [23:10]
B
You're skinny.
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A
I'm skinny. So it's like the only problem I have is that I would go into my own muscle tissue.
- [23:16]
B
Right.
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A
And so that was the only thing. Now, the one thing that I did get from the fast is because I had Lyme disease for a very long time and the, the activity of like cleaning out my cells and repairing that was the benefit of it, I would say. So does everybody need to do it? Not everybody, but I love it though. I mean, I have people that drop weight tremendously with it right off the bat.
- [23:37]
B
So I wish my dogs could do it. They start.
- [23:40]
A
Are they big?
- [23:41]
B
They just. Yeah, they're big. But they start begging me for dinner, and I'm like, why can't you guys fast for a day? One of my dogs. One of my dogs has lime, actually.
- [23:49]
A
Oh, we gotta keep working on it. But, yeah, I'm telling you, like, how.
- [23:51]
B
Long since he was a puppy? Yeah, he's five now or six now. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, it's sad.
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A
It is sad. It's like, I. I truly think that dogs and animals have gotten forgotten in some ways. No, I say that kindly, too. I'm not saying the professions have been forgotten, forgetting them, but I would say that, you know, they're expected to be dogs and strong, and animals, like, they don't really. You know, if they have line, they'll give an antibiotic, but I. I don't. I think they need to be treated with as much TLC as a. A person.
- [24:23]
B
Yeah.
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A
And they have Lyme disease. You need to, like, help them for the long haul.
- [24:26]
B
I know. Their lifespan is half of what it used to be, too.
- [24:29]
A
Oh, man. Yes.
- [24:30]
B
Yeah. Golden retrievers used to live to 15.
- [24:32]
A
To 20, and now it's half.
- [24:33]
B
Now it's half. Yeah. Some people would say a third. Some of them are only making it to five, six now. These days.
- [24:39]
A
Truly, one of my family members, their pups was supposed to live till about their average for their dog was 16. Lived till like, 11. And when she told me about what was going on with the pup and just the normal signs, like, even if you say a human had this kind of issues, I would say, I guarantee you that the dog's got heartworms.
- [25:00]
B
Wow.
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A
Even though they got, you know, dewormed and such. But I wish we could have gone in and checked, but they didn't go in and check for, like, more Lyme. Lyme and pick different parasites.
- [25:10]
B
Yeah.
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A
And I've seen really cool, you know, owners that go in there and they'll, like, make sure they get all cleaned out and add, like, three or four more years.
- [25:18]
B
Damn.
- [25:19]
A
But this pup didn't, unfortunately, didn't have that. I'm. I'm saying that I wish could have, like, tackled it sooner, though.
- [25:25]
B
Yeah.
- [25:25]
A
But again, it's like, I don't know, within the pet industry. Are they checking for that? I'm not sure.
- [25:30]
B
Not at my western pet vet, to be honest.
- [25:32]
A
No.
- [25:32]
B
You know, they actually told me to give my dog seed oils.
- [25:35]
A
Really?
- [25:36]
B
Yeah. So one of my dogs was a little underweight.
- [25:38]
A
Yeah.
- [25:38]
B
He was like, 60 pounds when he should have been 65. 70.
- [25:41]
A
Yeah.
- [25:41]
B
And they told him to start giving him vegetable oil. Isn't that terrible advice? Literally, seed oils.
- [25:47]
A
No, don't do that. I got to be saying no. Don't know. I'm usually not that, like, adamant, but, no, we don't do that.
- [25:53]
B
Like, I was shocked.
- [25:55]
A
See, Truly, I. They had a. A dog. One of my friends, dogs. I. I can't say, like, I treat dogs, but they'll come to me and they'll say, hey, doc, can you just. I'm got my dog with me, or I'm here at the office. Could you just, like, you know, check some Chinese acupuncture points? Because dogs and cats have acupuncture meridians, and the same organs run along, like, the same limbs.
- [26:16]
B
Oh, wow.
- [26:17]
A
And they'll find that, like, one of the dogs had a. It had a slip disc. I knew it did. So, yeah, dog sent. But, you know, you're paying a few thousand bucks to get all those things checked. And one thing is for certain, though. When I did some checking this, one of the hips of the dog was like. Is getting pretty loose. And I did some scans with my machines there, and it had lime in the joint. And what the problem is, though, is that I can't necessarily, you know, send them to the vet and just say, you know, please check this. There's some really great vets. So, yeah, we'll. We'll take a look. But the problem with Lyme is, like, in the animal, if it gets in the joint, there's not much that they could really necessarily check, like, go in and aspirate, like, take a needle and pull out the Lyme. They would have to go and scrape the joint and then culture it to find out there's Lyme.
- [27:02]
B
Damn.
- [27:02]
A
So what would you do for your pup? Like, you or your cat, they're suffering with a joint issue, and then it's so deep in the joint that you can't get a culture from it. So it's just like, they're gonna just suffer with a bad hip. Because you see all these dogs, like, hip dysplasia and such.
- [27:17]
B
A lot of them. Yeah. The bigger breeds.
- [27:19]
A
The bigger breeds, it's like when they get an infection. I'm not saying they all have Lyme, so don't take that way. But if the infection gets in the joint, what do they love to do? They'd love to go eat all the ligaments. They love sugar and proteins. And where does lime go? Your joints go to your brain, too.
- [27:32]
B
Yeah.
- [27:32]
A
And so that's where they get it.
- [27:33]
B
That's terrible.
- [27:34]
A
Yeah.
- [27:34]
B
What do you think about the raw food? Diet for dogs.
- [27:37]
A
I like it. I think that animals. I can't say to every breed. Now this is the problem I have is, though, is that I've studied some breeds and I think that the raw diet would actually do well for them. And it actually increases, like enzymatic activity in the gut. Right. And I actually think that it would actually help them increase more enzymes to eat up all the parasites. Do they need the nutrients? Yes, I think that it can actually. I've had patients that have dogs like on raw eggs and raw meat and their skin and their coat's so glossy and their meridians run really smooth. Nice. I don't know, man, you. You must know more about this than I do. But when you talk about like processed foods. I've had patients not bring their dog in, but they had their dog with them. And on the regular diet, I'm telling you, you could tell that those. That they just are not feeling too good. Yeah, yeah.
- [28:27]
B
My first few years I was on the regular kibble diet. That's what everyone tells you to take. And then we switched to raw and their skin is way better.
- [28:33]
A
Oh, and truly, they'll say when a dog gets older that they'll smell, especially when the dog gets rained on, that their skin smells. But what is the biggest organ that all the yeast and all the fungus is going to come out through their skin and through their cloth, their fur. And it's shown that, like there's fungal and yeast, small spores on their fur. And if you are cuddling with your dog, you're going to get them on you.
- [28:55]
B
Oh, wow.
- [28:56]
A
And they're going to get into you. That's not like, nothing against pets, but if it is on there. And they'll say that when they do a raw diet, they've done tests on them and they've shown that what very high reduction in yeast and fungal that's coming through the skin. That's why they smell better.
- [29:10]
B
Yeah.
- [29:10]
A
And they're crazy. Isn't it crazy? It's like literally, you can't deny that when your favorite pet and they look good and their coats. Well, you're like, whatever I'm feeding is working.
- [29:20]
B
Yeah.
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A
But unfortunately, as humans, we don't take that into account. Like, some of us are like, our skin looks bad. Well, you probably shouldn't eat that sugar, you know? Yeah, yeah.
- [29:30]
B
They just give you some cream or some terrible supplement to take.
- [29:33]
A
Oh. And it's getting to a point where we try to use cover up basically now. But to me, anyone that comes in the office and let's say it's like a skin issue. Like you said, eczema or any type of acne. I tr. I would say this. Or even hair or hair loss. One of the greatest things that you can do is just please check into candida or yeast or fungus that's growing in your body. If you clean the basic amounts of that out of your body with some of the biofilms that it creates, all the mucus, you will see a tremendous glow in your skin and your hair. Like you ever see individually. They call it cradle crack, cradle cap in kids, where they get this thickening derm. Like on the skin on your scalp. And they'll scratch it. It'll be like thick and they'll say, oh, it smells too. It's all yeast.
- [30:20]
B
Wow.
- [30:21]
A
All fungal.
- [30:22]
B
I never even thought hair loss could be a parasite thing.
- [30:24]
A
Hair loss, Hair loss can be associated with, could be associated with bladder issues and gallbladder issues in Chinese medicine. Because, like, the bladder meridian will start right here between your eyes.
- [30:35]
B
Yeah.
- [30:36]
A
And it goes right across the head. So you'll look at, if a person has really loose hair at the top, the crown, they have a bladder infection or UTI or old bladder infection or kidney stones.
- [30:45]
B
Wow.
- [30:45]
A
If they ever get, like loose around the head, like around this area, then usually look into the liver and gallbladder.
- [30:51]
B
Yeah. Because sometimes the Asians get the circle bald spot.
- [30:53]
A
Yep.
- [30:54]
B
You know what I'm talking about.
- [30:55]
A
Completely. And I, I, I will say, I could probably say we could go do some testing and find hidden UTIs. But if they go to the doctor and try to get a regular test, they're not going to find the proteins of the infection because a normal test only tests for E. Coli.
- [31:07]
B
Damn.
- [31:07]
A
But if you go look, remember your, your bladder is a holding tank. Like, that's all it is. It's like the holding tank and you have different types of bacteria and parasites and such in there.
- [31:17]
B
Yeah. Dude, you blew my mind earlier that you said through sweat parasites can leave your skin. Can that be transferred to another person through sweat?
- [31:26]
A
I believe so. In my opinion, yes, I believe it can. Because when you're talking about pores and they've. I've seen some studies like these are microbiology journals, and they show that there are certain types of parasites that get into the second dermal layer and they get in your sweat glands or they get into that second layer. And when your body's letting go to the sweat, remember, like, if we're talking about entamoeba or try Panasonic parasites, they travel through water that's their medium, they go through. Like, if you drink from a hose, you're going to get water and it's going to travel into your body. But when it gets onto your skin and it comes out and you're in like, close contact, could it transfer into somebody else's skin and get into their pores? I believe it can.
- [32:05]
B
Damn.
- [32:06]
A
Um, that's why you'll see a family. A family come in and they'll all have the same parasitic infections. And they say, well, they all drink the same. Not all the time. You know, they don't have all the same diet. Some of them have separate diets.
- [32:19]
B
Right.
- [32:19]
A
But they all carry the same parasites. It's like, it's that you're like, how does it transfer? Like, through skin?
- [32:24]
B
That's why I don't go in public pools anymore in hot tubs.
- [32:27]
A
No, dude. I say dude, like, that's so totally Southern. Um, but I will say I was the biggest germaphobe when I was young and I have really reduced it. But there's one thing that's very. I'm adamant. I don't want to go into any public pools or hot tubs. Like, my friends are like, hotly, let's go. I'm like, I know. Hell no, I'm not going. No, I'm.
- [32:50]
B
They tested the Vegas ones like a year ago.
- [32:53]
A
Yeah.
- [32:53]
B
And there was literally like, shit in there. Like, PCs.
- [32:56]
A
It. See, I can't. I know, like, when I hear about it, I can't hear about it. Because if you think about how bad some of the parasites get in your body and, like, ruin your. Your body and they. It's like, to me, it's like just a big bath, a soup of, like.
- [33:09]
B
Bacteria and parasites, plus even the stuff in the pool with like, let alone parasites, like, the chlorine and what else is in there, like, it's just not good for you.
- [33:17]
A
Not at all. And, and to me, like, if you're going to get put that much chlorine and that, you know, people that go to the pool every single day in the summer do the. What you think's best. But the chemicals are pretty harsh too.
- [33:28]
B
I'm converting my pool at home to a saltwater pool.
- [33:30]
A
Oh, really?
- [33:31]
B
Yeah.
- [33:31]
A
That'd be awesome.
- [33:32]
B
Yeah, chlorine. I mean, there. There's this guy, Dr. Pompa.
- [33:35]
A
Yeah.
- [33:36]
B
He did a test where he put chlorine water in a cup. He put his hand in it for 30 seconds and then he measured the water again. There was no more chlorine in It.
- [33:43]
A
Because he soaked it all up.
- [33:44]
B
Yeah. It all went into his bloodstream. Isn't that crazy?
- [33:46]
A
It is. It to me, it's in the horror. The horrible thing about chlorine or even fluoridize, like, will be attracted as it gets into the tissue. It has a really slow breakdown rate. And your body's. Your body's gonna do everything it can to take the chlorine and go, what do I do with this? Like, where am I gonna put it? Some say it goes into your thyroid and it'll go up into your glands. And if you have a really slow rate of breakdown, those metals and those halogen gases will do what? They'll disrupt the amount of minerals and vitamins you can absorb in your cells. That's what makes it so dangerous.
- [34:17]
B
I know. That's why I stopped going to steam rooms.
- [34:19]
A
Did you?
- [34:20]
B
Because they use tap water.
- [34:21]
A
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [34:21]
B
You're just inhaling birth control. What else? Like fluoride.
- [34:25]
A
That's what you're saying. The biggest amount of birth control and drugs are in water.
- [34:30]
B
Yeah.
- [34:30]
A
And you inhale it. And I think that we perceive, or I did when I was younger, that the only thing that could get in your body is what you ate and what you drank. And I'm. No. Your organs. Your biggest skin or your biggest organ is your skin. And so to me, I am even more aware and wary if I'm in an area that they use high amounts of pesticides for some reason, I always be, like, really wary of pesticides. I'd smell asphalt or pesticides and I would feel, you know, horrible inside, literally. And then I was thinking, it's just in my head. But I found out that I did some gene testing and there were a few genes, and I didn't know this. That makes me very sensitive to things like I smell, like, the chemicals because I don't have the genes to break down some of these chemicals very well. So my body reacts to it.
- [35:15]
B
Wow.
- [35:16]
A
And that's why people can go around and say, I. I can't. I can't be around new pavement. I can't smell such and such. It's like. Because your genes can't process that, Right?
- [35:26]
B
Yeah. Right.
- [35:27]
A
It is. Tar is like. It's literally like it stays in your body. So.
- [35:30]
B
Damn.
- [35:30]
A
So what does your body do it. You would think that your body would take that and put into your lungs and somehow you could hack it back up and spit it back out, but once it gets lodged in there and you don't have the enzymes to break it down. What does your body do? It goes, well, I don't have anything to break it down. I guess we're gonna have to put it away in the closet.
- [35:49]
B
Holy crap.
- [35:50]
A
So what do you do? You store into a cell and you put fat around it and then you encase it and you start seeing people that could get cyst or something like that could be possible. True. But just know that your body could shove it into like a closet and just push it away. And that's why you and I, if we go do a detox, we do it fast. I know it's happened to you. You go, oh, I'm feeling pretty good. You do a fast and you go, man, I feel like I did like three years ago when I had this bad stomach issue after. You do the fast, why? Because all that junk that was stored is now coming to the surface. You never got rid of it. It's like people are silent. Carries a strap. You really never got rid of it.
- [36:29]
B
Wow.
- [36:29]
A
And the body's such a great adapter, though. That's what I'm saying. It's the beauty of the body. I'm not saying to be negative. I'm saying your body is working its best. So. Yeah.
- [36:37]
B
Yeah. That's crazy. What's the longest tapeworm we've seen?
- [36:41]
A
Personally?
- [36:42]
B
Yeah.
- [36:45]
A
Record six feet, two inches.
- [36:48]
B
Dude, that's my height. Holy crap.
- [36:50]
A
Six feet, two inches.
- [36:51]
B
That's insane. Yeah.
- [36:51]
A
And build it out the throat or. Oh, no, no, that was like through the rectal. Rectal area and they. I had the one that came through the throat. Personally. No, it. Dude, that was only like. There was an 8 inch line that came throughout. I had a friend that found one that came out through the nose. Another colleague. It was 4 inches. Geez. A worm that came out. Kim Rogers. You see that one she just put out?
- [37:18]
B
No, I didn't see it.
- [37:19]
A
She said that they found one. It was in. It was in Thailand. 52ft.
- [37:24]
B
No, how?
- [37:28]
A
They showed it and it was wrapped back and forth. Show, Kim. I was like. Because one of my buddies was a med student at Purdue.
- [37:36]
B
Yeah.
- [37:36]
A
Went to pre med. And you know, people make jokes about worms and. And I. He was saying something about his microbiology class. He said something about worms. And my brother, because I was skinny, my brother used to always tell me that I have tapeworms. And he was just like, whatever, man. And he goes, oh, no, it's a real thing. And I was like, what? He goes, oh, yeah. He goes. They would do trips to, like, different African regions where they would deworm and he said it was. It was average where these young kids who are infected would literally, they would pull out worms and they would say they'd be over nine foot long.
- [38:10]
B
Holy crap.
- [38:10]
A
And where they would deworm them and there would be like a pile of worms where they would just deworm them.
- [38:15]
B
That's in Africa.
- [38:16]
A
In Africa, they would do, like, villages to go in and help them.
- [38:18]
B
So it's in the water there?
- [38:19]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's in. If. If it's in the water, like, and it's in. Mosquitoes. Mosquitoes transfer it to. They don't usually transfer, like, worms. Mosquitoes on. They'll. They'll transfer, like protozoa parasites mostly. But, you know, anytime they eat uncooked, you know, seafood or uncooked meats that have it, it'll get inside.
- [38:36]
B
Yeah. I had to tone it back on sushi. Man, I love sushi. Oh, man, it just freaks me out now.
- [38:42]
A
Oh, it's in our blood, man. It's like, I love sushi. Like, my. I was raised on sushi, and then now I see some of the reports about how many eggs are in, like, small square inches of fish.
- [38:52]
B
Yeah.
- [38:52]
A
But it makes me sad. But see, that's why you'd eat the wasabi and the ginger to kill it.
- [38:56]
B
Right.
- [38:57]
A
And you dip it so it's like. It kills it. But I. I know I've been in this for over 20 years, and I'm just saying it's. Once you get some different parasites, you. It's hard to get rid of them. So I just don't even want to chance it.
- [39:10]
B
Yeah.
- [39:10]
A
That's how I am.
- [39:11]
B
Have you seen different cultures have a higher chance of parasite infections based off their diet?
- [39:15]
A
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and. But I will say this only because I've been here for so long. I would say I have seen individuals that do a lot of sushi.
- [39:25]
B
Yeah.
- [39:26]
A
Have more parasites than people who don't.
- [39:27]
B
That makes sense.
- [39:28]
A
And that makes sense on that. I do also see that individuals. The other flip side was in American culture, shout out to all the farmers, you know, I support you. I'm all about it. But I've seen a lot of farmers that have had, like, a lot of parasites working in the dirt, lurking livestock, especially kids that were farm kids. Love them. They're my patients. One of the things is that literally anytime I have found an individual that had lots of parasites, like, extreme amount, like, anything I checked and we got tested, the first thing I would ask is, were you raised on a farm or Were you like, in a livestock area? And I'm going to tell you, eight at times out of 10, they were usually, yes. We raised on a cattle farm. We raised milk farms, which is great. But they said, oh, we would go run in the patties or run in the pastures, and we would just let our feet just hit the patties, like in their fecal. And then they would say, some of them go swim in the water. The ponds down that they. The, you know, the cows would go drink in and bathe in. So they would just go swim in them.
- [40:27]
B
Yeah.
- [40:27]
A
And you think how much fecal matters in there? And they're swimming and it's getting in their ears and getting up their nose. So to me, that's the culture. Like, I've seen that a lot. Quite a bit.
- [40:37]
B
Wow. I didn't even think about it. Farmers. Yeah.
- [40:39]
A
Yeah.
- [40:39]
B
Damn.
- [40:40]
A
There's some cultures I've seen very little. Some that I've seen the least was, I would say, like, even in my mom's culture, I mean, even there's some sushi. I can see there's higher parasites. But any culture that has a lot of the spices.
- [40:54]
B
Yeah.
- [40:55]
A
India, you don't. There's times where I've had those individuals, like, I can't really find too much because your foods has so much good spices.
- [41:01]
B
Right. So you're just eating super spicy food all the time.
- [41:04]
A
I love super spicy food, but I think as I get older, man, the spice gets a little bit worn now, but. Absolutely. And again, I'm not saying this to be scary about parasites. I'm like, just be smart about it.
- [41:14]
B
Yeah. Well, Chris, it's been awesome, man. Where could people find you?
- [41:17]
A
Find me at Dr. Motley all spelled out and on Instagram and. And you know, the website and also on Facebook. But, man, I'm just glad to get you're in town, man. It's good to see you, man.
- [41:27]
B
About to grab a nice dinner together.
- [41:29]
A
Let's do it, man. Let's get it.
- [41:30]
B
Come out, guys.