Anonymous No More: Ginger Theory Shows Her Face! | DSH #1854

Summary

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Digital Social Hour – Episode #1854: "Anonymous No More: Ginger Theory Shows Her Face!"

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Ginger Theory
Date: March 11, 2026

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Overview

In this special episode of Digital Social Hour, controversial social commentator and viral researcher "Ginger Theory" appears in person for the first time, shedding her infamous mask in a live face reveal. Host Sean Kelly and Ginger Theory have a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation about government corruption, the Epstein files, controlled opposition, internet anonymity, psychological manipulation, and numerous viral conspiracy topics. The episode is packed with sharp opinions, dark revelations, and personal stories about navigating internet fame, censorship, and threats in today's polarized media landscape.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Ginger Theory’s Rise and Viral Impact

(01:11–02:32)

• Ginger started her account anonymously in October by sharing religious opinions, quickly pivoting to political and conspiracy content.
• Her first significant viral post discussed child prostitution in the Weimar Republic, drawing early attention and growing her platform.
• Ginger reflects on the emotional drive behind her work:

  “It’s too heavy in my heart. I feel like a lot of people feel that way, so that’s why I started.” (Ginger Theory 02:10)

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2. Deep Dives: Epstein Files, US Aid to Israel, & Controlled Opposition

Epstein Files

(08:01–09:48)

• Ginger shares disturbing details from the files, describing photographic evidence of “demonic” ritual abuse and extreme child victimization.

  “One of the things that’s been bothering me is, like, pictures of… little dead bodies… it’s like the ultimate sex slave ritual where they literally cut off your limbs. So then you are literally a torso…” (Ginger Theory 08:01)

• She references documented communications about infant abuse and chilling testimonies:

  “He was actually having a conversation...is there any way to make babies suck harder? ...they would literally drown in the ejaculation.” (Ginger Theory 09:39)

US Aid to Israel

(03:25–07:39)

• Ginger details historical nuclear material theft by Israel, backed by the CIA and French assistance, to describe how US foreign aid to Israel violates American law.

• She thoroughly summarizes the Symington-Glenn Amendments prohibiting aid to non-NPT countries with clandestine nuclear programs:

  “They ended up amending the Foreign Assistance Act...that say the US is not allowed in any capacity to send any type of weaponry, money, any type of aid to countries that refuse to submit to the non proliferation treaty… Every single dollar since then has been illegal.” (Ginger Theory 07:32)

Controlled Opposition

(00:00, 24:26–25:26)

• Ginger categorizes public figures like Tucker Carlson as “the most successful controlled opposition figures in maybe history,” accusing him of staged populism while being deeply connected to elite power structures and possible intelligence ties.

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3. Psychological Operations, Media Manipulation, & Fear

(11:16–13:24)

• Ginger and Sean dissect how elites weaponize fear—via media and false dichotomies (good vs evil, left vs right)—to control public behavior.

  “They weaponize fear through psychological operations, meaning they’ll give us a good and an evil… they’re just giving us another dichotomy that isn’t true.” (Ginger Theory 11:48)

• Discuss “idolatry” of political factions and the myth of true opposition, quoting:

  “Yeah, there’s a left wing and a right wing, but they’re two wings on the same bird. And it’s just so true.” (Ginger Theory 13:24)

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4. Institutional Corruption & Political Cover-Ups

Government & Law Enforcement

(14:18–20:42)

• Ginger harshly criticizes figures like Pam Bondi and Jim Jordan for their roles in minimizing or covering up child trafficking and abuse allegations.
• Connections between university abuse scandals, major donors like Les Wexner/Epstein, and systemic silence are exposed.
• Ginger describes law enforcement and NGO involvement in trafficking and their complicity in global and domestic exploitation.

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5. Vulnerability, Anonymity, and Face Reveal

(20:15–22:23)

• Ginger describes being under surveillance and her move to reveal her identity as a protective strategy:

  “At this point, because of how fast I blew up, it’s safer for me to let people know who I am under the mask. That way, nobody can ever replace me.” (Ginger Theory 20:42)

• A candid conversation follows on the risks of fame, privacy loss, and being “doxxed,” culminating in the live face reveal.

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6. Pop Culture, Politicians, and ‘Fed’ Accusations

(23:06–34:12)

• Ginger gives blunt, often scathing appraisals of:
  • Megyn Kelly: “Classic neocon...she just kind of comes off as aloof...trying to downplay all Epstein’s crimes.” (Ginger Theory 23:11)
  • Tucker Carlson: “Nothing of the sort. That man is probably a billionaire… all you know is nepotism.” (Ginger Theory 24:34)
  • Erica Kirk: “I think that she participated in the murder of Charlie Kirk. I really do.” (Ginger Theory 26:15)
  • Nick Fuentes: Criticizes his rhetoric and potential normalization of the Epstein subject through memes and merch.
• Discussion on CIA influence in elite circles, recruitment from Ivy League universities, and "controlled opposition" in new media.
• Debates on spiritual warfare, “demonic” behavior, and the dynamics of grief in power circles (e.g., Erica Kirk).

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7. Ongoing Investigations and Research Ethos

(34:19–36:03)

• Ginger outlines her current research, including the Kushner family’s “deeply entrenched” power and immigration scandals.

• She admits juggling multiple avenues:

  “Usually quite a few things will pop up that are just totally different pathways...side quests. So then I’ll bookmark those and continue them later.” (Ginger Theory 35:03)

• Stresses her commitment to primary sources and public translation:

  “If I can absorb this knowledge because of my background in academia… and put it in a way that’s digestible...that is my purpose right now.” (Ginger Theory 31:04)

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8. Surveillance State, Social Credit, & “The Point of No Return”

(36:08–41:30)

• Ginger details how the Patriot Act and other laws have entrenched mass surveillance, biometric monitoring (even by car steering wheels), and the social credit paradigm in the US.
• Discussion includes remote control of cars, journalist assassinations via “car accidents,” and mass shootings engineered for gun control.
• Ginger on government overreach:

  “The ADL was spying on thousands of Americans for decades in conjointment with the FBI and local police.” (Ginger Theory 36:12) “They can actually read your biometrics through your steering wheel.” (Ginger Theory 36:58)

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9. Faith, Purpose, and Closing Thoughts

(41:37–end)

• Ginger closes with a spiritual message:

  “Jesus Christ is the savior of this world. He’s the king of kings. Has nothing to do with Christianity… This is theistic Satanism, and it has overtaken almost every single religion on earth.” (Ginger Theory 41:37)

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• On US Aid to Israel:

  “Every single dollar since then has been illegal.” (Ginger Theory 07:32)

• On the Epstein Files:

  “This evil is real.” (Ginger Theory 09:36)

• On Controlled Opposition:

  “Tucker Carlson is one of the most successful controlled opposition figures in maybe history.” (Ginger Theory 24:26)

• On Political Hysteria:

  “They weaponize that incompetence…avoid that shame, avoid that embarrassment. Just like, no, I’m right, I’m right. My favorite politician is right too.” (Ginger Theory 12:27)

• On Revealing Her Identity:

  “It’s safer for me to let people know who I am under the mask. That way, nobody can ever replace me.” (Ginger Theory 20:42)

• On Research and Translation:

  “If I can act as a medium…in a way that’s digestible…that is my purpose right now.” (Ginger Theory 31:04)

• Spiritual Final Words:

  “Jesus Christ is the savior of this world…This is theistic Satanism, and it has overtaken almost every single religion on earth.” (Ginger Theory 41:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Ginger’s Origins & Viral Moment ... 01:11–02:32
• Epstein Files Deep Dive ... 08:01–09:48
• US Aid to Israel Illegal? ... 03:25–07:39
• Face Reveal ... 21:01–22:23
• High-Profile Media & Political Figures ... 23:06–34:12
• Kushner Family/Current Investigations ... 34:19–35:43
• Surveillance State Discussion ... 36:08–41:30
• Spiritual Message & Close ... 41:37–end

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Memorable Moments

• Ginger’s graphic retelling of Epstein files evidence shocks both host and listeners, setting a gritty tone for the episode.
• The live face reveal after months of anonymity, discussed as both a pragmatic and symbolic move for safety and identity protection.
• Ginger’s rapid-fire, unapologetic critiques of well-known cable news stars and opinion leaders, breaking with mainstream talking points.
• The candid, personal reflections on dealing with online threats, family skepticism, and emotional drive behind her activism.

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Summary

This episode delivers an unfiltered, compelling, and darkly provocative look at institutional corruption, media deception, and the dangers faced by whistleblowers and independent researchers. With her distinctive style, Ginger Theory challenges orthodox narratives on power, secrecy, and public manipulation, while Sean Kelly skillfully guides the conversation to its most confronting and revealing depths.

For listeners who value raw, deeply-researched perspectives and are undeterred by the most sensitive topics, this is a must-hear episode of Digital Social Hour.

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Transcript

[Ginger Theory]

Do y' all really think there was just one. There was just one Epstein character? Just one person trafficking people? One person with an island? Absolutely not. Tucker Carlson is one of the most successful controlled opposition figures in maybe history. Tucker Carlson applied to the CIA when he was 21 and got rejected. Or did he? Hillary Clinton literally tweeted, like, 10 minutes before the happened about gun control.

[Podcast Host]

No. So, big reveal. We're gonna do a face reveal right now. First one of the show. Foreign. Guys, Very special guest today. We got Ginger Theory. We're going to talk about a lot of important topics and got something special planned at some point during the episode.

[Ginger Theory]

Right, Right.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's going to be a fun time. Well, welcome to Las Vegas.

[Ginger Theory]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, first time?

[Ginger Theory]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. That's. That's a rarity, I feel like.

[Ginger Theory]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of people have been here. You've held off.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. I'm not a city person. I. I hate this trip, actually.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What do you hate about it?

[Ginger Theory]

It's just too much of a party scene for me. That's just not really my style. I don't like cities. They're too compact. There's too many people.

[Podcast Host]

That makes sense.

[Ginger Theory]

Too much surveillance, honestly.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So for those that don't know you, even though you get a lot of views these days, let's dive into the story, why you wear the mask and everything. What you started posting at first.

[Ginger Theory]

Okay. Yeah, so I started in October, and I just started posting, like, my opinions on religion at first. I posted, like, three videos on, like, October 5th, and those are my first videos, and they weren't very well researched. They weren't researching videos or conspiracy videos, anything like that. So then after those three, I was like, okay, I want to talk about things that are, like, really important, and I want to kind of give a synopsis of everything going on. So I started doing that. And so I started in October. It's now February. It's been a little over four months. And. Yeah, it just took off after that first month.

[Podcast Host]

Four months.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy because you get so many views.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, I was. I was pretty surprised.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Like, some of your videos have, like, tens of millions, I think, right?

[Ginger Theory]

I don't think so. Not yet.

[Podcast Host]

When I scroll and you get, like, thousand comments, tons of likes, every single

[Ginger Theory]

one, like, pops off. Pretty much.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

It's. It's been a surprise to me. I didn't expect it. I didn't even want to, like. Like, when I first started, I was like, you know, even if, like, Five people listen to me. That's okay, because I just want to start speaking out about what's going on. It's just too much. Like, it's too heavy in my heart. I feel like a lot of people feel that way, so that's why I started. And then I guess a lot of people. It resonates with them. So.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And was it a specific video that took off at first or just all of it kind of took off?

[Ginger Theory]

You know, the first one, it was like the fourth video that I made, and it was about talking about the Weimar Republic right before Hitler rose to power in Germany and just talking about the degeneracy that was going on, and just like, actual child prostitution, child brothels. You could go to a pharmacy in the Weimar Republic and they could literally prescribe a child to you. And so that was the first video that I made that, like, got a few hundred thousand views. And then after that, I just started researching more and more into politics and conspiracies. I mean, I don't think they're conspiracies, but. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, a lot of them just got debunked with the files.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

At least. Right?

[Ginger Theory]

Exactly. Yeah. It just got proven.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But you also did something interesting. You discovered why US aid to Israel is actually illegal.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, right. Yes.

[Podcast Host]

That's a big kind of revelation, right?

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. Yeah. I love that you use the word revelation. It's like we're in revelation. But, yeah, so there was actually a nuclear theft at the New Mex facility in Pennsylvania. And this was, I believe, in 1963 or 1968, I want to say, you know, catch me on that date. But basically, over 300 kilograms of, or, I'm sorry, kilotons disappeared of nuclear material from that facility. And the owner of that corporation was a Zionist, a hardcore Zionist, and he let things pass that he shouldn't have. And so basically, they stole American nuclear material, and then the French helped Israel build the Demona reactor facility, and it was enriched uranium that they stole. So, like, you can literally create so many different things with that, but especially nuclear weapons. So that's what they started doing. And the French, who obviously are deeply entangled with the Rothschilds, French and British, like, it basically goes hand in hand, even though they're from Germany originally. So, yeah, they literally stole our nuclear material, started making nuclear weapons. The CIA knew about it. In the 60s, they went to the Dimona reactor through some, you know, means and literally discovered that there are CIA documents discussing it. And so they know, like, everybody knows, that they have Weapons. But they have a policy of ambiguity with Israel, as do a lot of countries. Because when you are in this position of like, well, they could or they couldn't, which is Israel's official stance, well, we're not going to confirm nor deny. So when you have that level of ambiguity, you don't have to submit to any type of inspection. So like iaea, the International Atomic Energy Agency, basically, once you get into the Non Proliferation Treaty, which all nuclear powers, major nuclear powers, are required to basically enter that treaty if you want to have relations with the big powers, which is France, uk, America and Russia. So that was basically created to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons, which is funny because then Israel stole our nuclear material. So they'd never been required to submit to testing under iaea. They've never been required to sign the Non Proliferation Treaty, even though they're quite literally one of the most dangerous threats to America and to the entire world. Honestly, because they are so powerful, they have American backing and they literally will not confirm nor deny whether they have nuclear weapons. And they do. But what's interesting, and I, I know you've heard this before, like, you know, there's weapons in Iraq, WMDs in Iran. Yeah, all the time. And so then I was like, okay, let's talk about their, their nuclear weapons, you know, because they're constantly sanctioning Iran and Iraq and that's fine. If they have nuclear weapons and they're a dangerous country, that's fine. Okay. But Israel has never been sanctioned, not once. In fact, there's a. Or, I'm sorry, let me go back to the Glenn and Symington. So Glenn and Symington were senators and basically there was a Foreign assistance act of 1961 that basically described what we're allowed to do aid wise and what countries have to do in order for us to give them aid. So one of those things is the Non Proliferation Treaty. So if you're a nuclear power, you have to submit, you know, and especially to go order. Oh my gosh. Especially to get aid from the U.S. yeah. So the Glenn 17amendments were added to that act in 1976 and 1977. Those two were senators and they were actually extremely outraged at the whole new MEC scandal, the new MECH affair, because it was just a blatant, like international violation of, of treaties, of allyship, of laws. And so they were like, no, like that's not going to pass. So they ended up amending the Foreign assistance Act of 1961 and added those two amendments that say the US is not allowed in any capacity to send any type of weaponry, money, any type of aid to countries that refuse to submit to the non proliferation treaty, IAEA testing, and then just the acknowledgement of nuclear weapons. So literally every single dollar since then, which is. I mean, it's probably trillions, honestly. We don't know. Every single dollar since then has been illegal.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. Every single dollar.

[Podcast Host]

It's unreal knowing that our tax dollars are going towards that.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. And they don't care. And it's because we live in an occupied country, you know, like, it's crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's crazy how a small country like that can control something like us.

[Ginger Theory]

It is. But that just tells you the power of money, really. Because that's all it is. These people are bought.

[Podcast Host]

Money talks.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What's the craziest thing you've been seeing with the files lately? The epine files, what shocked you the most?

[Ginger Theory]

It's. It's so bad. Honestly, every single day I see something worse than the last. One of the things that's been bothering me is like pictures of. Of little dead bodies. And like, I had heard this theory, kind of. It's kind of fringe, but basically it's like the ultimate sex slave ritual where they literally cut off your limbs. So then you are literally a torso and what? Yeah, and it's like a thing. And there are pictures in the Epstein files that literally depict that.

[Podcast Host]

Oh my God.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. And dead bodies in bags. There's. I'm sure you've seen the emails about the baby and the sucking. Trying to make them suck harder.

[Podcast Host]

Why? It's not. You see that.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. He was actually having a conversation with. I wish I can remember the individual he was speaking to, but he was some type of doctor. And he was like, is there any way to make babies suck harder? And he was like, yeah, if you play a sound of their mother's voice or a mothering tone, then they will literally suck harder. And I think you and I both know why they want that to occur. And actually Laura Logan, so she used to be a journalist, she's super pro Zionist now, so I don't care what she has to say. It's obviously biased, but at the time she was doing some great research just all around. And she covered this one story where there was a man who. He was into, you know, child sexual torture and abuse. And he literally had a room full of newborn corpses because that's where he would dispose the babies after he used them for sexual acts. And what he would do is he would starve the babies so that they would suck harder and then they would literally drown in the ejaculation.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. So it's like this is real. Like, this happens and the fact that it's in the files, like, I know that so many people hear so many things that just sound too unbelievable, but, like, this is real and this evil is real.

[Podcast Host]

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[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, and it happens.

[Podcast Host]

It's like demonic, right?

[Ginger Theory]

It's absolutely demonic. I can't think of anything. Right. Because it's like you and I see something like that and it's like, what are you talking about? Like, this is so inhuman. It's like, it's like the most abnormal thing you've ever heard of in your life. But it's like they literally worship demonstration and this is just theistic Satanism.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

They've always been into child sacrifice. It has nothing to do with the Torah or Christianity or Islam. It literally has to with theistic Satanism.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They want us divided about religion, right?

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They want us to talk about the spread of Islam to the West.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know, that's a huge topic right now.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, it really is. But they've been fear mongering Islam. I mean, for if not centuries, at least decades.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Ginger Theory]

If you can get the American people scared enough, they'll kind of do whatever you want. You miss out with 9 11.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They want us in a state of fear, right?

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. That's our biggest weapon.

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

How do you think they weaponize that?

[Ginger Theory]

That's a great question.

[Podcast Host]

I think other than adrenochrome oh my gosh.

[Ginger Theory]

I think they weaponize fear through like, psychological operations, meaning they'll give us a good and an evil. So if, you know, from an Israeli perspective, the good would be the Jews and the bad would be. The evil would be the Arabs. Right, the Arabs, the crazy Muslim. But in reality, like, they're just giving us another dichotomy that. That isn't true. It's like the, the tail, the. Oh my goodness, I'm forgetting the word. It's tale as old as time, which is the good always. When it's always the good people that are being attacked and it's just not true.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. They created.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They give you two options and they say exactly. One's good, one's bad.

[Ginger Theory]

Exactly. Just like left and right. And they just demonize it because people are ignorant too. So they weaponize that incompetence to where if someone is wrong and then they learn information and it's like, oh, I'm actually wrong. They then won't submit and be like, you know, it's okay, like, everybody's wrong sometimes. They then have to like, avoid that shame, avoid that embarrassment. Just like, no, I'm right, I'm right. My favorite politician is right too.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. It's just. It's idolatry.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. The left first, right. That's almost like elementary school to me. You know what I mean? It's like such a low IQ argument at this point.

[Ginger Theory]

I agree.

[Podcast Host]

I don't understand how people still even talk about that with these bigger problems.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. And it just points to, I think, the problem of uninformed consent in this country, which is people think they know what they're voting for, but in reality they have no idea. You know, like, I, I love that quote. It's been around for so long, since I was in like middle school, which is. Yeah, there's a left wing and a right wing, but they're two wings on the same bird. And it's just so true.

[Podcast Host]

100%.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What did you think of Pam Bonnie's response to all this? I know you've made a few videos about her. Right.

[Ginger Theory]

I literally can't stand Bondi. I think because of her performance at the DOJ oversight hearing, I think she should be in jail. I would like her under the jail, but that's just my opinion because she has one job and is to lead the country's Department of Justice. And she came to the basic fundamentals, like answer Congress members questions about serious, serious child trafficking allegations and she's turning it into a Joke like this is serious to me, this is serious to a lot of people. And for that woman who is, who has 10 lawyer experience, she literally ran child trafficking cases in Florida, human trafficking cases, domestic violence, capital murder. She knows the ins and outs of the law and she knows that she's breaking it continuously and truly. Like when this is all said and done, I do believe that she will be in prison. I do believe.

[Podcast Host]

Part of me wonder where she falls in all this. If she's just a pawn or if she actually has some control, you know?

[Ginger Theory]

You know, that's a good point. A lot of the time I think about how a lot of these people are victims turn perpetrators and it's like it really goes so deep. It's not just these victims of Epstein's that are on these lists and then they disappear and they're normal people. It's also politicians, secretaries, I mean Monica Winski for a perfect example. Like people that are sexually traumatized and then put in the, into these positions because they know they never fold because they're permanently compromised.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And it goes to the highest levels, right?

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Let's just say how it is. Trump might be compromised. Right.

[Ginger Theory]

You know, and that's funny about the DOJ hearing. So the first person that it panned to, I watched the full, almost six hour long video.

[Podcast Host]

Damn. You watched the whole.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Shout out to you for doing that. My adhd. You could never do that.

[Ginger Theory]

I just didn't. I just want to get the full story, you know, and I can't comment on one part if I'm not reading the whole thing. I just think that would be ignorant of me to do. And the first person that they pinned to was Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan was the assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State university for about eight years between I believe 86 and 94, although you know, double check those dates to be sure. But he was wrestling coach there for many years. And while he was there, during his tenure, the head wrestling coach was sexually abusing, molesting and assaulting the young men who were competing in the programs. And many of them, if not hundreds of them, literally came forward to Jim Jordan and were like, hey, like he is abusing us. We don't know what to do. These are young men, like 18, 19, 20, maybe even 17, I have no idea. And he did nothing. Hundreds, hundreds. And he did nothing. And this literally happened for over 20 years from 78, 1978 to 1998. And the head coach like just got away with it. And OSU literally knew about the abuse, it's in the court documents. They knew and they let it continue.

[Podcast Host]

But he was such a great coach. Right. He was winning.

[Ginger Theory]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

So they kept him.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. And that's just how it goes with power. And Jim Jordan even was quoted saying, oh, you know how he is to the players who came forward. And what's interesting about that. So obviously he's a piece of shit.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

But then after that. So Les Wexner was on the board of Ohio State University during this time and afterwards as well. Who built the football facility, the multi million dollar football facility? Epstein and Les Wexner.

[Podcast Host]

No way. He had a lot of weird connections to colleges.

[Ginger Theory]

Epstein, yes, absolutely. I have like a whole video about that. Mit, Harvard, Washington State, a few other small schools, these big schools, Columbia. He even paid for a few of the victims schooling.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Some that were, that were underage and some for their private colleges. But yeah, Jim Jordan, he was one of the people who was accused by William Sasha Riley for just like the most brutal sexual violence when he was a child. And he said that Jim Jordan would like wrestle him and like attack him physically.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. And then the other person that it panned to right after that was Andy Biggs, the second person that William Sasha Riley accused. And with Andy Biggs, he said it was the most violent attack that he had ever experienced. He. Him, he beat him, he almost killed him. Allegedly. This is what that survivor said. And for them to be on the DOJ oversight hearing on Epstein. Are you kidding? Like, are you actually kidding? This country is a joke and other countries are laughing at us.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They might not be the most honest sources of information.

[Ginger Theory]

They're probably having fun the whole time, just jerking it behind the desk.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy. It makes you wonder how many of these guys went to the island or were involved with them.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. And the thing about Epstein is, do y' all really think there was just one. There was just one Epstein character, Just one person trafficking people? One person with an island? Absolutely not.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, there was someone before. There's someone right now. There's people out there. It's never going to stop, right?

[Ginger Theory]

It's never going to stop unless we stop it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, I think the U.S. the access of information is really good, but these third world countries are still going to kidnap people over there. No one's going to hear about it. You know. Absolutely sad.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. And usually the US partakes in that because a lot of the people that we get for human trafficking are from third world countries. Like obviously the founder of. I'm sorry, not the Founder. The head of ncmec, the national center of Missing and Exploited Children, was emailing Epstein. So it's like, yeah, they've got several different pools that they're pulling from.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they were pulling from hotels. I saw International resorts.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Did you see the one about child photographs?

[Ginger Theory]

How do you mean?

[Podcast Host]

So they made. Made us take photos in. In school, growing up. Oh, my God.

[Ginger Theory]

Life Touch.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

And Shutterfly.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

The. The CEO of Shutterfly or the CEO of Life Touch. Because Shutterfly owns Life Touch. Yeah. And he was, I think, arrested in a minor girl.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That was a whole rabbit hole.

[Ginger Theory]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

You could just pick whichever kid you wanted. All their photos were there. It's disgusting.

[Ginger Theory]

And can you imagine how many kids went missing due to that?

[Podcast Host]

Probably a lot.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, we don't know the actual numbers because, like you said, the third world countries, they don't really report that, you know.

[Ginger Theory]

Exactly. And they're paid off.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Like happened with Haiti. Exactly. Yeah. They own the police.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I've had a lot. A lot of people that do rescue missions, and they say they basically can't even tell the cops that they're doing it. Yeah. The local cops.

[Ginger Theory]

It's so intertwined. And that also makes you think about. Think about, what is it like in the U.S. you know, because, like, the ADL was caught paying off police officers for multiple decades just to spy on American citizens. It's like, how much would it cost them to turn over, you know, a unaccompanied minor from the foster care system that ran away? How much would it cost them to turn that over, you know?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I'm sure it happens all the time. Yeah. You did a deep dive on them. I'm sure they weren't happy. Adl.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. It's probably when the surveillance started.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I could see why you're anonymous. Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So surveillance, they actually monitoring you?

[Ginger Theory]

I would say so. I mean, the elite know who I am, and the reason I'm, you know, unmasking pretty soon is because obviously the elite know who I am behind the mask. And the only person that I'm hiding from is just the general public because I thought it'd be safer that way. I've since learned that, you know, at this point, because of how fast I blew up, it's safer for me to let people know who I am under the mask. That way, nobody can ever replace me.

[Podcast Host]

Right. Safety numbers. Right?

[Ginger Theory]

Exactly. Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Well, yeah. It's brave of you, by the way, because I know you wanted to probably not ever reveal your Identity. Right. You started off anonymous for a reason.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Podcast Host]

After four months, that's probably quicker than you thought it'd be.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy. Should we do the big reveal? Sure, let's do it.

[Ginger Theory]

All right.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, guys, so big reveal. We're gonna do a face reveal right now. First one of the show, and it's episode 2000. So you ready for this?

[Ginger Theory]

I'm ready. I'm coming out. No homo.

[Podcast Host]

Let's go. Were you nervous?

[Ginger Theory]

I am. I'm a little nervous. I don't want to be recognized, but it's okay.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's okay. It's one of the downsides of having a big following.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. I'm sure you experience that a lot.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Privacy's been an issue sometimes.

[Ginger Theory]

I'm sure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Have you been doxed?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I haven't been doxed yet. Knock on wood. I never. It never happens, but it's. It's something. The. The left. Both. I don't know both sides either, but yeah, people use it.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

It's crazy.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. Especially with people that you platform. I'm sure if you platform the wrong person, they'll threaten you for it.

[Podcast Host]

Yep. When I had on Fuentes.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Wow. Had a lot of negative comments.

[Ginger Theory]

Any threats?

[Podcast Host]

Mainly towards him, but he's used to that. I feel like, Yeah, I. I got a couple. I'm like, okay, yeah, this guy's a bigger following than me. I'm not platforming him. It makes no sense.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know what I mean? When they say you platform someone.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, right. For sure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Like, he already has a huge following.

[Ginger Theory]

He would have spoken either way.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. He's already speaking about it.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So I don't like that argument.

[Ginger Theory]

I don't either.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But welcome to the world, I guess.

[Ginger Theory]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. What do you have to say now that you're not anonymous anymore?

[Ginger Theory]

Everybody was like, are you hiding your nose under mask? No, thank you. It's very small. It's very small. I'm Irish.

[Podcast Host]

I'm half Irish, too. Oh, wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Twin.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. How does it.

[Ginger Theory]

Full Irish or like Irish Scottish? A little bit of Native American.

[Podcast Host]

That's why you're ginger. Yeah, the Irish.

[Ginger Theory]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host]

Are. Ginger is the original black people.

[Ginger Theory]

I mean, my black friends call me the N word, you know?

[Podcast Host]

Do they give you the N word? Pass.

[Ginger Theory]

I've seen sometimes when I'm. When I'm given allowance.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, let's go. Yeah, let's go.

[Ginger Theory]

There are people who don't care. You know, Obviously, I'm not racist. I love everyone. I'M a Christian, so, yeah, that's. I would never use it in a. Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That racist argument is. Once you get called that, it's just like, yeah, bro, I got a list of names here. I want to get your opinion on these people.

[Ginger Theory]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

I got to start off with Megan Kelly because you've been making some videos about her.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. I think Megan Kelly is just a classic neocon, and I think what she has to say is relevant. Although if she has nice things to say about, like, the political state of the world, meaning that's not pro Israel, which is what she's been, then sure, I'll listen, and, like, that's okay. But she just kind of comes off as, like, aloof, which is just not true, especially if you're a journalist in this field. You know what's going on, you know who the bad guys are. So I don't like people that kind of play both sides. And I see that a lot with Megyn Kelly. And something interesting is Nick Fuentes was, like, one of the ones who was like, they were teenage girls or whatever. And Megyn Kelly had been saying that first, and she had been saying it for longer, trying to downplay all Epstein's crimes. And it's like, these are crimes against children. That's it. We don't need to normalize it. We don't need to downplay it and be like, well, they were older children, and it's like, they're still children. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. She seems like she's very controlled, in my opinion.

[Ginger Theory]

I would definitely agree with you. I don't know what it is or if they have blackmail on her or something, but it's definitely there.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. She's kind of in that old legacy media boot camp.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

She's been around for a while.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

She was on Fox, I believe, before, and cbs, I believe, before podcasting, so. And someone with a similar journey, Tucker Carlson, what do you think about him?

[Ginger Theory]

I think Tucker Carlson is one of. One of the most successful controlled opposition figures in maybe history.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, absolutely. I don't like that he tries to pretend that he's a common man. He's nothing of the sort. That man is probably a billionaire, honestly, if you go into his financial records and the things that he owns also, like, he acts like a common man. That's like, his shtick, but at the same time, like, all you know is nepotism. Like, have you met your father, Dick Carlson, who worked in Conjoint. Yeah. With the CIA through the Voice of America during the Cold War and literally through Operation Mockingbird, which is having these talking heads say what the government or the state wants them to say. Tucker Carlson applied to the CIA when he was 21. He got rejected. Or did he. Or did he. I don't know. Maybe he worked for them and then now he's just Operation Mockingbird, you know, and a very successful one at that. And his son, Buckley Carlson, is the, I believe, the assistant deputy press secretary to J.D. vance. Like, that is blatant nepotism. And I. I just. I don't appreciate that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if he got in somehow in the CIA, because John Kiriakou, I think.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's how you pronounce his name. He was saying a story on a pod how, like, college professors, some of them are CIA.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And they recruit people that are students.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, That's.

[Podcast Host]

That's how he got recruited.

[Ginger Theory]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

That's insane. That happens the I leagues all the time.

[Podcast Host]

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Look at the. When you look at the Charlie Kirk stuff, that kid who allegedly shot him. The university had a CIA program, right?

[Ginger Theory]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

You know what I mean?

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So who knows with him if he even shot him? Yeah, I don't think he did. That's my next person for you, actually. Erica Kirk.

[Ginger Theory]

What do I think of Erica? Yeah, I. I think. And this is my opinion, so nobody can sue me for it. I think that she participated in the murder of Charlie Kirk. I really do.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

And I remember watching Charlie Kirk when I was in, like, middle school. His ideas didn't resonate me as I got. Resonate with me as I got older. But I remember seeing so many videos of him talk about Palestinians like they're nothing. Like they're not even human beings and they're children, you know, like, he has little kids and what's the difference? So I just wasn't very enamored by that. And then when he died, I remember somebody texted me and was like, charlie Kirk just got shot at a college campus. And I was like, now he knows how the Palestinians feel. And it's like, at that point, I didn't know that he was dead. And I would never cheer on his death. I actually cried, like, when he died, like, because it's so. It's horrific. And it's horrific to everyone involved. And if he does have children, if those are his children. I've heard so many theories, then imagine.

[Podcast Host]

Like.

[Ginger Theory]

I can't even imagine what. What that's like. And I do believe that he was killed for the Israel reasons. There's probably some human trafficking thrown in there as well, which Israel is allegedly involved in. And Erica Kirk's connections with her mother, Lori, her connections to the Netanyahu's. It's very weird. It's very strange. And the fact that she doesn't even want to investigate her husband's murder. I'm sorry, but if you look at the details of the case, what is pointing to Tyler Robinson? Okay, he was on a camera. Okay, that doesn't prove anything. They lied about the style of the gun. They posted the wrong picture. They lied about his dad turning him in. That never happened. And they lied about the location of the gun. There were literally dogs that went. Sniffed the area, didn't find anything. They had to be led directly to the weapon because it hadn't been discharged. Yeah. So I think Erica Kirk, I think she was possessed by a demon.

[Podcast Host]

I could see that.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, absolutely. And I don't know if it's some type of hypnosis, because I talked about that with Brian Demon erasers. And that's a very compelling argument as well, especially with the weird eye movements that she does. She looks psychotic, but there's definitely a lot of spiritual warfare going there.

[Podcast Host]

I can 100 see that. When you see how she acted on those leaked calls days after. That's not normal.

[Ginger Theory]

No, it's not normal. You would never see me again if somebody murdered my husband in broad daylight.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Only a demon could make someone act that way, in my opinion.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. You're smiling, you're laughing, like you're wearing makeup. Your hair is done. You're like, yeah, team, let's get to work. And it's like, you need to get to grieving. You need to get home to your children. You know, he literally said the most important thing while he was alive is the. The mother being near the children. And it's like, okay. And then he dies. And then she just. That. And she doesn't care about any of that, really.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Who's watching her children when she's not there? And yes, women can have jobs. Like. That's not what I'm saying. But this is ridiculous. Her husband is dead. Their father is dead. You need to act appropriately. And I'm gonna police grief. I will.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, I don't blame you. I wonder.

[Ginger Theory]

It's not normal.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I wonder when that demon takeover, whatever you want to call it, happened because there's theories of her being a honey pot. I'm sure you've seen that.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

So I wonder if it was like a recent thing or if it was after who knows?

[Ginger Theory]

And who knows if she was raised that way, you know, because a lot of these rich people, they pawn out their own children. Yeah. And we saw that with allegedly Howard Lutnick, who brought all of his children to the. To the island and listed their names off in the emails.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, like 7, 11, 9, and like, 5. Something like that.

[Podcast Host]

That's disgusting.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. And it's like, why would you do that? Why would that even be relevant?

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Speechless about that.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I do want to ask about Candace, what you think of her right now, because I see mixed things on her.

[Ginger Theory]

You know, I'm not gonna dog on a researcher. And whether she researches it herself or a team, it doesn't matter, because she's saying it. So I'm just gonna say it's her. And I find a lot of it very compelling. I like that you talked about Jack Parsons and NASA being a satanic entity and the whole thing with a ritual, with a moon baby and all of that. And I like what she's saying about Erica Kirk. I really do. And I think a lot of us kind of surmise that Erica Kirk was guilty months ago, and she's kind of given us the breadcrumbs that led us to kind of proving that there might be some evidence to that fact. But I have some disagreements with her about Catholicism and the way she presents it, and then certain things that she has said biblically that just doesn't match up. But, yeah, I don't have really anything negative to say. I will say, like, I don't watch anybody specifically, but, yeah, I wouldn't say, like, I'm neutral.

[Podcast Host]

I feel a lot. Yeah. Sounds like you take a lot of pride in the research aspect of. Of things, which is a pretty, I'd say, rare trait. Really, these days. Yeah. With all the people I see, I feel like you're actually putting in the work.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, wow. Thank you.

[Podcast Host]

There's a lot of talking heads, let's be honest.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know what I mean? People just see a headline and then go on a show and talk about

[Ginger Theory]

it, and I hate that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But you're actually, like. Sounds like you're, like, diving into.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

All the weeds of things.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. I try.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, that's what separates you, I think.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, wow.

[Podcast Host]

Thank you. You can actually have substance.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. And I give people a trail. Like, I just wanted to be able to translate it because there's a lot of people, even my friends, my family, like, they just don't understand it. So if I can act as a medium to kind of, okay, I can absorb this knowledge because of my background in academia. What? And then I can put it in a way that's digestible and people can understand it better. Like, that is my purpose right now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That must have been tough for you with family, dealing with that. And.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know, talking about all these topics are like, is she crazy?

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. My dad is like, are you okay?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That's relatable.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Relatable.

[Ginger Theory]

I'm sure.

[Podcast Host]

Last name for you? Nick Fuentes. A lot of people, I don't know if you've been following him recently are saying he's kind of turned sides. But what do you think about him?

[Ginger Theory]

I mean, I think it's a compelling argument, the recent, you know, turn of sides. But I will say, like, I'll give him grace because I just started and I've gotten a lot of threats. Like, a lot. And I can only imagine someone in his position, you know, if he wasn't a fed, you know, and. And if his upbringing in. In this world was not just related to the Daily Wire and created. But I will say, like, I used to watch his videos.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

And I never really enjoyed what he said about women or black people. And it's like, I can take a joke. Okay. Like, I really can. But if you're going to be a representation of Christianity through Catholic Catholicism, you need to do a better job as a man. You really do.

[Podcast Host]

That makes sense.

[Ginger Theory]

And you shouldn't. Like, I'm sorry, but the whole message of God is love. Jesus loves people. Like, that's why the Rapture is bullshit, because it makes Christianity and it makes Christians think that, oh, well, this is just the way it is, and, like, it's going to be violent and all of you are going to die and we're going to be okay. And it's just like that same mentality, you know? And it's like, our job is to bring people to the Lord, not push them away, make them feel like they can't participate. Another thing that I don't like, and I don't want to dog on him because I'm really, like. I would say I'm neutral. I never met him in person. I don't know him, so I can't really judge him that well. Don't like what he's saying about Epstein. Same thing that Megyn Kelly is saying, why are you selling Epstein merch? Why is that happening? Why are you trying to normalize this for young men? Because either way, that's the same type of psychological Operation that the government and the military take pardon all the time, which is to basically normalize things that. That are hor. Horrible, horrific. And we see this with mimetic theory a lot, which was a darpa concepts who literally use memes as a way to lessen the blow of just things happening in the world so that people wouldn't take them seriously, so they laugh it off and there'd be no further inquiry, so.

[Podcast Host]

Wow, that's interesting.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I don't know. When he came on my show, he said he didn't think the files existed. So now looking back, I'm like, was that a Fed narrative? You know what I mean?

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Kind of weird.

[Ginger Theory]

That is weird because.

[Podcast Host]

Because that was a hot take at the time.

[Ginger Theory]

That is hot take even now. Yeah, obviously.

[Podcast Host]

But this was like nine months ago. Ish. Whatever. So, yeah, that's when he got bought. Could be. It was then. So when he came on my show, he went on a crazy tour after he went on pbd. Tucker Carlson.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, right. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Megyn Kelly and then another big show.

[Ginger Theory]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

So it's just weird timing, you know,

[Ginger Theory]

it was weird timing. And then that. That lineup specifically. Yeah, a bit strange.

[Podcast Host]

Exactly. Why not line up? Pro I word. Right.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. Really.

[Podcast Host]

What's the next investigation you're working on? Is this still going to be the files, you think? Are you kind of doing some other stuff?

[Ginger Theory]

You know, it's the files. I'm also deep, deeply entrenched in the Kushner family empire. You know, it definitely didn't start with Jared Kushner. It's not going to end with Jared Kushner. Didn't even start with his father. You know, his grandparents immigrated here illegally by pretending to be hol. Holocaust victims.

[Podcast Host]

No way.

[Ginger Theory]

And they came here under false pretenses and false names, and so get all their asses out of our country. Yeah, so I'm working on the. The Kushner thing. I'm working on quite a few things behind the scenes, because when I'm researching, like, usually quite a few things will pop up that are just totally different pathways. So then I'll. Exactly. Side quests. So then I'll bookmark those and then continue them later.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Have you covered the ice stuff? You think that's a big distraction?

[Ginger Theory]

I've only covered it, like, through, I think, stories and then through the David Goldberg theory, which said that, like, a paramilitary force that's controlled by Israel would come in and kind of dismantle the American mindset, which is we need to rebel and we need to think critically and especially about our government, which governs literally every single thing in our lives. I do think ICE is performing very badly, and I think it's on purpose because, yes, we do need to get legal immigrants out of this country. 100. I've never been anti, you know, that immigration policy, but it's the way that they're doing it. And they are murdering American citizens.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

And they're deporting people who are American citizens. And it's like, why? You know, and we've heard a lot of things about Pegasus being used by ICE and other software that literally tracks people who are dissenters about ice, who just say the wrong things, apparently. Yeah, they're doing that.

[Podcast Host]

I know China does that, but I didn't. The US Was on that wave already.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, we've been there.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Do we have social credit scores? Like, absolutely. Holy.

[Ginger Theory]

I read the Patriot Act. It's really bad.

[Podcast Host]

No way. What is that?

[Ginger Theory]

So the Patriot act was passed after 9 11, very, very quickly. It had been drafted prior, but then they beefed it up after 911 occurred, and it basically retroactively legalized all of this mass surveillance that they were doing on Americans. Like, think the Edward Snowden Leaks, other type of WikiLeaks. And literally they just legalized it. Like, they had been listening to our phone calls. They had been spying on us individually. Like, the ADL was taking part of it because the ADL was spying on thousands of Americans for decades in conjointment with the FBI and local police. Yeah. I mean, they've had this power forever. I mean. And I just covered this topic about, like, the government being able to remote control your car and, like, turn it off.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I know. You can do that.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. And they can actually read your biometrics through your steering wheel.

[Podcast Host]

No, that's a good. That's crazy. Yeah, that's a new one.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. It's really, really sick.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That's why Alex Jones doesn't drive any or doesn't fly anywhere, because she could do. He thinks they could do it with planes. And then when he drives, I think he uses a car that's like, older or something. Some specific thing.

[Ginger Theory]

Do you think he's a fed?

[Podcast Host]

There's a good argument for it. After the Sandy Hook stuff, he got wrecked during that. Like, I wouldn't. I honestly wouldn't even blame him if he became one after that. They've ruined his life. Like, what other choice do you have at that point?

[Ginger Theory]

Well, if your price isn't your life, what is it?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

James o' Keefe quote. That's my opinion. No one's ever gonna buy me. I'm unbiable.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Respect.

[Ginger Theory]

What's the point? Like, what's the point? I'd be such a sham. I'd be a joke. And also I'd be going against God. And that's how you really know you're going to go down the path that you shouldn't be going down.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. They couldn't get me with money, so I wonder what they would try. You know what I mean? Blackmail, probably, but.

[Ginger Theory]

Or threatening.

[Podcast Host]

I've only slept with one girl, so I'm good on that front. I've said that on multiple shows, so I have that documented. So they can't get me with, like, an ex girlfriend, Internet searches, nothing crazy. But they could plant that, you know?

[Ginger Theory]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host]

So that's.

[Ginger Theory]

CP gets painted all the time.

[Podcast Host]

Exactly. That's what I learned.

[Ginger Theory]

Stephen Paddock's brother.

[Podcast Host]

What happened to him?

[Ginger Theory]

Stephen Paddock was the guy who allegedly was the one who committed the Las Vegas shooting.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah, that. Ian Carroll's covering this right now, right?

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, is he?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

Oh, wow.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, there's a big, like, rabbit hole on that one.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah, he didn't do it.

[Podcast Host]

Was this the mandatory day one or.

[Ginger Theory]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah, that was weird.

[Ginger Theory]

It was really weird. And there were other things going on besides concert besides the shooting and the cut. The shooting was probably a cover for it also, at the time. I wish I had a screenshot of this. I would. I would send it to you to put up, but Hillary Clinton literally tweeted, like, 10 minutes before the shooting happened about gun control.

[Podcast Host]

No, that's not a coincidence.

[Ginger Theory]

No, it's not.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Mass shootings have always been done for a specific reason. It's for control.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They think gun control will do anything. It'll make it worse.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. It'll make it worse. And gun control is just the guys for, like, these school shootings. Like, they don't give a shit if your children die. They're in and eating them. They don't care. They literally just care whether if you're going to rebel or not. Is it going to be a successful rebellion? Because if you have an armed population, they're hard to fuck with. But if you have a disarmed population, like in China, where you have the worst, worst digital identification system, it's like slavery. Same thing in Australia. So, I mean, when they disarm the population, that's when things get really bad.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, Canada, too. They're all sheep over there. They can't do shit.

[Ginger Theory]

Canada is so bad.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. The guns might be our last. Like, our last resort.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ginger Theory]

That's why the Second amendment was written to protect and defend against tyrannical governments.

[Podcast Host]

Ellen DeGeneres just looks like she eats kids. Right? Like, if you look at her face.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I've seen photos of her, and it just, like, creeps me out kind of.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. What the hell is that? And why was she even famous to begin with? Like, what? And also some shit with her ex girlfriend and Hesh. So that's in, like, a video I just made. But her car literally, like, went 95 miles per hour into somebody's house. Apparently. She was braking. She was trying to stop. She had been driving erratically. But when I, you know, was researching into the bill that passed in 2021 that gives them, you know, remote control over our cars or remote stop switch, it just made me think of that. And then there was another journalist, I believe his name was Michael Smith, who just discovered, like, that they can literally control your cars. And then he died in a car crash. He drove straight into a wall.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. We need to figure out which brands aren't compromised by that.

[Ginger Theory]

Good luck.

[Podcast Host]

Is it.

[Ginger Theory]

It's like every car after 2013.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Ginger Theory]

Because there are people proving it. With, like, a Jeep Wrangler in 2013.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[Ginger Theory]

Not even that high tech.

[Podcast Host]

Alex does. Yeah. Before 2013. Yeah. I got rid of my electric cars. I don't trust those for sure.

[Ginger Theory]

I know, either. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

But I feel like it's a little safer if it's gas. But if you're saying 2013. Wow.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's a lot of cars.

[Ginger Theory]

It's. Yeah. It's the way every car.

[Podcast Host]

Jeez. They want you gone. You're. You're toast.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah. Unless you, you know, God protects his people. And if you're walking with God, you're walking in some type of righteousness. Righteousness. Or you're trying. That's what I'm trying to do. You know, I'm just gonna believe that God has my back, because I think he does.

[Podcast Host]

That's what I do. Hope if. Because they know there's repercussions for taking people out. Right.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

So, like, that's. I hope they at least acknowledge that and they're not just blatantly killing everyone.

[Ginger Theory]

Absolutely. And in the words of Alex Jones, you'll never defeat God. You might take out some of his martyrs, but you'll never defeat God.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That's beautiful. Well, Ginger, this was fun. Anything else you want to get off your chest? Or promote or talk about.

[Ginger Theory]

I just want to say that Jesus Christ is the savior of this world. He's the king of kings. Has nothing to do with Christianity. People are blurring the waters on purpose because they want to blame Christians for this, and it's just not the truth. This is theistic Satanism, and it has overtaken almost every single religion on earth. But specifically. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Love it. Well, check her out, guys. Thanks for doing the face reveal on my show. I'm honored you chose this platform.

[Ginger Theory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

See you guys next time. Peace. Thanks for watching. All the way to the end, guys. Please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.