
What if everything happening right now was planned years ago? In this Digital Social Hour Episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Dawgface Calderon for one of the most intense and unpredictable conversations yet. They dive into war, politics, religion, AI, cloning, prison, black family structure, hidden systems, and why Dawgface believes society is being pushed toward collapse. Dawgface breaks down why he thinks politics is theater, why public school feels like prison, why religion can be used as control, and how people are trapped inside systems they never chose. He also opens up about coming from Detroit, transforming his life, and why making it onto Digital Social Hour means so much to him. This episode goes from conspiracy to philosophy to personal transformation fast. Watch until the end because Dawgface shares one of the most powerful lessons of the entire conversation: expand your radius of knowledge. Chapters 0:00 The Black Family Is Broken? 2:26 The Courts And Puppet Syste...
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How do you feel about the black family structure now?
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Wretched, terrible, irreparable condition. It's not repairable. Do you think that the force that is greater than us, who's operating on the same plane that we're operating on now, is looking at us and has said to themselves that these are good for anything other than cannon fodder? Look at how stupid human beings are, bro.
A
Okay, guys, got dog face in the studio today. You came prepared.
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Yeah, absolutely.
A
Let's go, man. Lots to talk about today.
B
Absolutely.
A
All the stuff with the war going on with Iran. What do you, what do you think's going on?
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I think it is, is it was designed. I think it's all scripted. I think we're living in the matrix now. I think that what we are seeing and what we are experiencing now is what is something that was designed a generation ago, at least.
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Yeah.
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At the very least a generation ago. So they have the right person in office, they have the right system in office, they have the right amount of people who don't really care about anything other than world, world dominance and control. So the table has. Was set.
A
Yeah. I mean, when you look at 9, 11 and all the wars that started from it, they said that this was one of the seven countries. I think this is the last one.
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Yeah.
A
Or the second to last one. But it's crazy. It's all planned out.
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Yes.
A
I mean, politics is a distraction, in my opinion.
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It absolutely is. When you think about all the turmoil and the calamity between whether you are a conservative or a liberal, who cares?
A
Yeah.
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Who really cares about that? It's all a distraction. It's theater. It is to be movie. It's a bad to be movie. If this was a to be movie, you would turn it. You wouldn't watch it.
A
It's a division tactic, right?
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Absolutely. Everything. So this. And so when you look at Trump's first term, and I'm not a, I'm not a big Trump naysayer.
A
Yeah.
B
But when you look at the first term, he set the table with the Supreme Court. People are always focusing on the Senate and the House, but none of that is really important. What's important is what happens in the Supreme Court because those are, those are the Supreme Court is the ultimate judgment. Right. They are the people, they are the people who are going to argue about whether, no matter who's in office, whether they can do what they do when they overstep their boundaries.
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Yeah.
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So he set the table with the, with the highest court in the land and then with the lower courts. Right. And so once, Once. If you challenge something in the lower courts, it doesn't matter, because once you get to the Supreme Court. Yeah, The Supreme Court, United States of America. I watch your show a lot. I'm a fan of what you do. When you talk about the arch manipulators, when you. When you talk about people who are. Who are probably more likely to. Not. Not from this dimension. That's what you're seeing there.
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Supreme Court.
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Yes, absolutely.
A
I could see that. Yeah. Obviously the court system's compromised.
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Absolutely.
A
And at the highest levels, too. Supreme Court. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody. People in there are doing some weird. You know, they set the president for the whole. The whole world.
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Right, Absolutely. Yeah. We, we. We talk about the World Court, who. And International World Monetary Fund. Listen, this country hasn't been governed by the people. This is not a republic. This is a puppet country. It hasn't been governed by the people in. Since maybe the next administration.
A
Wow. So our whole lives.
B
Yeah, yeah. Our whole lives. Absolutely.
A
It's nuts. Because if they want you in prison, they'll find a reason.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
A
You kind of have to play by the rules to a certain degree.
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Right? Yeah. And I think everybody understands that. When you talk about some of the things that we're going to talk about a little later. When you deal with human beings. Human beings. We understand that human beings are flawed people. They're flawed individuals. They're. They are flawed. And so when it comes to dealing with people who are absolutely flawed, flawed means corruption. When you. When you. When you have information and when you have leverage on people, this is how you get a Epstein Island. This is how you get a Mar A Lago. Mar A Lago is just as a terrible place as Epstein. You don't have to go to Epstein Island. Mar A Lago is the home of all debauchery.
A
Damn. I've been invited there a few times.
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Don't go. Don't you take your ass down there. I'm gonna pray for you. How did we do this? Yeah, it's not bad.
A
I didn't know. I actually didn't know that. Wow. Mar A Lago. A lot of people in the podcast space go there.
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I am suspicious of them.
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A lot of people. Especially on the right.
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Obviously I am suspicious.
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David. Yeah, a lot of people.
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Did you. Did you mention his name on this show?
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Who? Patrick Red. David.
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Don't ever mention his name.
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You don't like Patrick bad David.
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He is a it. He is not from. He's a hatchling bro.
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Really?
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Are you serious?
A
He just messaged me yesterday.
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Yeah, and saying he tried to bring you over to the dark side of things. Don't go. I need you to resist the earth. Hear me?
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Yo, I'm doing my best.
B
Yeah, don't do it.
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Listen, like five of my guests have died in the past year, okay? So I'm doing my best. I'm bringing on people, trying to spread the truth.
B
You think that's a coincidence?
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No, I don't believe in coincidences.
B
Right, neither do I.
A
When you look at the message they were sharing on the show and they mysteriously passed away, it's not a coincidence.
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Yeah, I don't necessarily believe in coincidences. I. I believe everything is scripted. All right? So that's why I move. That's why I charge forward with such zeal and such aggression. Because whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
A
Agreed. I think it's already written to a certain degree.
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Yes.
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Yeah, I think I've accepted death at this point. I used to fear. I don't anymore. It is what it is. If it happens, it happens.
B
Well, if it happens, we'll see another version of you sitting right there.
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You will For a brief period. But I've already made a clone keyword with my wife.
B
Okay.
A
So if my clone doesn't know it, she will take me out.
B
Right.
A
So we'll see. And then they might make another one. I don't know.
B
They'll make another one. Do you think you're bigger than the system? No, they'll make another one.
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I don't think you could outdo the.
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They'll make another one. And then your wife, they'll make another one of her too.
A
Really? They're cloning spouses too.
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It's a family affair.
A
Jesus. Was Jim Carrey cloned?
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Absolutely. Ask me questions that you know the answer to. Oh, I have to just. We have to play a game here. I'm sorry. You absolutely. Listen.
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The general public may not convince as us.
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The general public. So listen, there. There are those who are in the know and there are those who are. Who are being used as stand ins or extras. The general public in a movie, right. In a production, right, you have your main actors and then you have stand ins. They really have no consequence. They have no purpose outside of being used as fillers to complimented scene. The general public. The general public. Can I cuss or no? Yeah, okay. Listen. Never overestimate their intelligence of the consumers of politic. Religion or. Those are the two main components. Politics and religion go hand in hand. The General public are the extras. And this thing that we call life, it is a stage play, it is a movie. This is a bad production manifested. We are living in it. So the general public. Who cares about the general public?
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Do you think they're NPCs?
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I absolutely do. You think when you look at how. Let's take the government, for example. The world government. Right. When you look at how they're moving, I think it is. I don't know if anybody who's a serious thinker or serious reader or a person who's a student of history, religion and politic. I don't think any serious thinker believes that what we are experiencing now is all just happenstance. No, it's all scripted. So the general public. The general public is the worst enemy to people who actually think because they don't think something can be not true. But the general public wants to be entertained, so they will listen. So here's the Something can be not true. And they will spread. They will like it, they will comment on it, and they will share it, knowing full well that it isn't true.
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Right.
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Because the general public, they're. They're imbecilic, they're moronic, and they are. They are. They're actually enemies to the people who are still left walking upright.
A
They're brainwashed.
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I said all that to say they're brainwashed. I'm sorry.
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Yeah, They're MK Ultra. They figured out how to do it on a mass scale.
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Yes.
A
Yeah. You could provide evidence and it doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter.
A
Their mind is made.
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Their mind is made. And that is. That's the school system.
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Oh, yeah. That's prison.
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That is.
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Yeah. I'm officially on board with that narrative. It is a form of jail.
B
Yeah. I don't mean to interview you, but how did you become officially on board with that?
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I mean, dude, I was brainwashed. And then starting this show, talking with people that escape the Matrix, whatever you want to call it, dude, it's all a lie. Like history is a lie. You know what I mean? The class they teach, history class, is all cap. It's all lies. All of its bs. It's programming. So I just can't take public school seriously. Even private. Like, I'm probably going to homeschool if I have kids. I don't want them Indoctrinated.
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Yes, indoctrinated.
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Yeah, that's what it is.
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That's what it is.
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Yeah. You don't what class you take.
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Yeah.
A
You're just stuck in that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
A
So it's prison, man. And you've spent time in actual prison?
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Yes, I have. A lot of it, yeah.
A
So what do you think about school? You think it's prison?
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So anything that doesn't allow you to free your mind, anything that doesn't really help you elevate. Right? See, because mind is just. Mind is the spiritual side of things, right? If you believe in that. Right? Brain is just the house of the mind, Right. If you are not. So let's take black people, for example, right? So black people en masse have been so indoctrinated, right? They've been so. I don't like to use the word tricked because it doesn't really express the level of gravity that we're talking about here. When I say trick, people think it's a game like hopscotch or like Halloween. No. Yeah. Right. So listen, they've been so indoctrinated, right? They don't. They don't. Black people as a whole, and I'm black, all right? I deal with black people. Yeah, right. It's going to sound kind of like anti black, but it's not anti black because the indoctrination that we speak of is not just about a color thing. So, not about colorism. It's not even about classism or elitism. It's just. It's. It's a system. But black people as a whole, if you're a student of, or if you. If you've studied the things that have transpired with us here in this country, you under. You saw us go from physical being in physical enslavement to they. Do you think they would just free us without putting another system in place that they could use to control us? They knew that they couldn't control. It was too many of us black people in the south during the doing. Coming at the end of the Civil War, going into Reconstruction, in Jim Crow south, black people in the south outnumbered white people five to one.
A
Damn.
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That's why it was such a push against voting. That's why you saw so much death and destruction, so much terrorism when it came to voting.
A
Wow. That's why they did the 1 5th vote.
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That's why. Holy crap. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's just like. It's like gender manding. Right?
A
Yeah.
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Is that. Is. Is exactly why black people outnumber white people in the south five to one. So if voting was a true process and it was open and honest, do you think somebody black would have voted for their former slave master?
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No.
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No, they wouldn't have. So that's why when you saw friends of black people who were trying to aid and assist us, that's why you saw when they were traveling from the north to the south, you saw the people who wanted to maintain power through the, the voting block killing them more and killing them faster than they were killing black people because they couldn't have the northern white or the northern Jewish agitators. They couldn't have that because they understood. The people who understand what's going on more than anybody else are white southerners because they're not attracted to all of the lip service. What they see is what they know. What they know is what they see.
A
That's interesting. So how do you feel about the black family structure now?
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This is wretched, terrible, irreparable condition.
A
You don't think it's repairable?
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It's not repairable.
A
Wow.
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It is absolutely not repairable. Because listen, the things that have happened to the black family structure, when you examine the dynamic between. So listen, no nation, no group of people can rise higher than the status of their women. And when it comes to the black family dynamic, black women have been conditioned and trained to oppose anything that looks like them giving up or giving way to the authority of a man. So when you convince the woman of the community that they don't need the men, and when you convince the women in the community who also influenced and are the first teachers, they're the first groomers, they're the first caretakers of your children. So before your children even get to a school, they saw disrespect in the household. They've heard things, even if they didn't hear it directly, even if they didn't experience or hear the arguments right. They heard their mothers on the phone talking to their girlfriends. They heard their mothers on the phone talking to their moms and their aunts. And so this thing is a generational thing. So the issues within the black community can't be fixed with a Martin Luther King or a Minister Farrakhan or a Jesse Jackson or a whoever. No black messiah can be born in. And what we're seeing right now, that's going to change anything in any measurable way. So when it comes to, if you are a believer, let's just say Christians have it right and modern day Christian theosophy is right and exact. I can't wait for Jesus to come back down here and tear this motherfucker up. I can't wait. Because the things that we experiencing and the shit that we got going on right here, how do you clean it Up. How do you educated people out of destroying themselves, for example? So black people, we point the finger, right? I'm a finger pointer as well, so I don't want to take myself out of that. We're all guilty of. I point the finger too, right? But when you look at how we are so self destructive towards ourselves, that is a plan. That is if you, if you studied the Willie lynch letter, right? That, that's what, what, what we're seeing now is the result of what was, of what his plan was. Is, is, is, is born. Now is, is manifested in the flesh. We are so keenly focused on destroying ourselves that we can't move forward in any significant manner. Black people don't need, we don't need an outside enemy because we're biggest enemy. We don't need a Donald Trump, we don't need a Charlie Kirk. We don't need Adolf Hitler, we don't need a, we don't need anything. We don't need any of the people who we point the finger at and say, hey, it is your fault. Because we have been programmed, we've been taught, we've been indoctrinated to hate ourselves to the point to where we're our own biggest enemies. We destroy ourselves at a disproportionate level. Right?
A
You guys kill each other.
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Yeah. And it sounds kind of weird coming from somebody who's black, but when I go outside in the black community, I'm not concerned about Charlie Kirk. I'm not concerned about. I'm concerned about somebody who looks like, sound like, sounds like me. Somebody who's enjoyed or not enjoyed the same experience that I have gone through coming up in the environment. No matter where you're from, you can be from LA to Rome, you can be from Zimbabwe to Brooklyn. Black people all are all for the most part, not all because not all of any particular people are all one thing. But for the most part, what you see, we are wreaking havoc among, on ourselves and amongst ourselves. White people just want to keep us out of their neighborhoods so that we don't bring our issues to them. And I don't blame them because I don't stay with their ass neither. Right? I don't want to hear that pro black shit. Even though I'm pro black, I'm as pro black as they come because I understand how we got here. So I do understand. Yeah, but so people have say, hey dog face, you moved your family out of the hood. You're right, because I'm not going to sacrifice. Listen, if I'm trying to reach back to help somebody. Every leader that we've had. When you look at what they left behind, when you look at the Malcolm X's and the Caress Scott Kings, when you look at what they've left behind, when you look at how much damage. And how little time they spent trying to cultivate their own households in order to save us as a people, look at how we. How we have rewarded them. Look at how black people have rewarded a Malcolm X or have rewarded Martin Luther King no matter what their own personal.
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Vices were.
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Vices were. Right. Here's a bigger thing. When you compare the impact of Jesus since his passing, if you believe in this, right, according to modern Christian theosophy, Jesus died for the sins of humanity, all of humanity. Not just white people, black people, blue people, green people, all of humanity. Right?
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Yeah.
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It's been going 2,000 years, right? They're looking for him to come back now, Sean. So you want Jesus to come back to do what? That is the magic question. What is he coming back to do? He's coming back to straighten this out. This gonna sound funny? I don't mean to be. I don't know what your religious preferences are.
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I'm agnostic.
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Okay, got you. Right. So I'm talking to the viewers and the listeners of this. You want him to come back to save you wretched, despicable sons of bitches. He already died, according to if you believe once, for the sins of not himself, but for humanity at large. So you want you. So in his absence, you ignore the sacrifices that he made. Jesus never got no pussy. He never got his dick sucked. Right. He never had. He never had a chance to go to a strip club. He never had a chance to go to a Braves game. He never had a chance to go to a soccer game. He never had a chance to watch the Olympics. He never got a chance to watch fucking, so he never had a chance to do any of that. And you want him to come back to save you again for the second time.
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Good luck.
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Good luck with that. If I was him and I came back here, I would go get me a big booty and some tequila and I would go walk the beaches of Sao Paulo, Brazil. I would not be with.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that.
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Are you serious? If. If God told me, hey, I'm going to make you a messenger of mine. I'm straight. I'm good. Give me a Cadillac. I'm straight on that. You want me to sacrifice myself for people who we know because history is the Best teacher. There's no better history than teacher. What have they done with the other 799 prophets, messengers and communicators of what your will is supposed to be? What have they done with holy and divine scripture? I don't care if you're talking about Muslims. I don't care if you're talking about Hebrews. I don't care if you're talking about Taoists. I don't care Buddhists. Look at the condition of this planet. Give me a gun and ammunition and a food source and a water source and I'll take care of myself.
A
Go off grid. That's where it's heading, man. People are buying bunkers, farmland. Yeah. Gotta get crazy real.
B
I've already been doing research until a bunker is high as hell.
A
Yeah.
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Especially when you have the. As well into the millions. Yeah. Especially if it's self containing.
A
Yeah. If we go nuclear, only the. The ritual survive. I think.
B
Absolutely.
A
Yeah.
B
Right. That's why I'm trying to get as much money as I possibly can.
A
Yeah.
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I'm just talking right now. Yeah. I don't blame them. And you can't come my bunker. You're not coming to my bunker because there's a reason why you don't have a bunker. Right. Right.
A
You're not bringing the fam.
B
Yeah. There's a reason you can't. If some of my own family members won't come in my bunks. Now you stay out.
A
There's only limited air supply, I guess.
B
Yes. Yeah. Yes it is. Yeah, it is. Hey, you could have bought your own bunker. Right. Right.
A
Gotta eat your own.
B
Yes.
A
Yeah. I don't like handouts. I don't like giving shit away. Unless you were loyal to me when I was starting out.
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Yeah. I'm a kind hearted person. But in the world we're living in. So with age I'm understanding that you can't. The worst thing you can do is kind of like be a crutch for somebody else. Because you can give people. You can give people some sustenance, but they won't appreciate the fact you gave it to them. The being thankful quickly turns into being obligated. You must do it because you are in the position to do it absent any thought to try to put yourself in the position so that the person you're asking for something you can become the person who's being asked. They. They don't. That doesn't. That doesn't jibe. They don't get it.
A
Yeah.
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And so at a stage at the point that I'm at right now. Hey, listen, I'm trying to do as best as I possibly can.
A
Yeah.
B
So that the people who I love can benefit from my understanding of how things are going to go. Things are going. Things are going bad fast.
A
Oh yeah, it's gonna get worse too.
B
It says that when you get to the bottom, like if you jump out of an airplane or jump off a building, right. The closer you get to the bottom, gravity forces you to speed up, so you smash into the ground faster.
A
Yeah, it's gonna get worse.
B
Yeah, it's gonna get worse.
A
AI is gonna replace a lot of
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jobs AI has already replaced. As you already know, right. When you talk to. When you go online to do anything online, you're not talking to a human being.
A
No.
B
Right. The things we're living in, we are. Our minds are 30, 40 years behind. Was actually taking place right now.
A
That's interesting. What do you mean by that?
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What I mean by that is that we are. They have. We've been introduced into a system unbeknownst to us. Right. When you look at technology, when you look at the car, just simply look at the car. You in car drives itself, right? Self propelled vehicles have been in existence for a long time. But you can't. So listen to. The human brain is really such a fragile thing. Even though we rah rah rah and we are destructive and aggressive and, and we're weak and we're fragile at times, right? We are. The human brain is such a fragile thing that you can't put too much. You can't. So listen, we're not actually in the present now. We're in the future right now. We just don't know it. Because the human, the brain picks up on what it picks up on. Right. The human brain is really a very fragile thing. And the more, the more complex or more complicated something is, the more taxing it is on the human psyche. The more taxing something is on the human psyche, the more the human brain starts to try to reject it because they don't want to believe it to be true. When we see sci fi movies, we don't. We, we, we are, we are think we, we. We. How? Who thinks that what you're seeing in the next Star Trek is something that is in the future? The people who. I'm old so when I watch the Jetsons, the things that. Do you think those things were just born out of some. Out of the mind of somebody who didn't have vision?
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No, no.
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They were trying to prepare us. But you have to take baby Steps. But human beings. But human beings are really fragile creatures. That's why if any symbols of society or any symbols of this world, if it is to continue, we have to start to at least merge technology. We have to merge robotics, nanotechnology, and cloning with human beings. In order for us to survive, we have to be taken over by a greater source of intelligence than ourselves because all we really know how to do is destroy shit. So there is a merging. The merging of the. I don't mean to be presumptuous. I don't want to preempt with your questions, but the general public we spoke about stupidest, slowest, ignorant motherfuckers you ever go. Sean Kelly, we are in fucking trouble. I'm not even sure if you are. I'm trying. I'm looking for any twitching. You twitch, I'm a fuck you up, Sean. I'm telling you that. Right? Goddamn. This is probably the first time you've been threatening your own show. If I see any glitching or any twitching or your neck, right? I'm looking dead at you. I'm not looking like most guests. Yeah, I am. I'm not just saying this. I am looking at you. I'm looking for any. I'm looking for your hair blowing this way when I know the wind is going that way. Any that looks like you're Mr. Anderson from the Matrix. I'm out of here. Dude, I'm not ready for you to just. To touch me.
A
I feel that I've had a few guests glitch out.
B
Yeah.
A
Creepy. Like my. My heart drops instantly. Some reptilian. I don't know what that is, but it's. You got to be. You got to be aware these days, man, people plant handlers in your life. They plant people in your space.
B
Yeah, absolutely.
A
You get interesting calls. I mean, you got to move smart
B
at the level you at. Right now, you're one of the most influential people who are operating on what I call the YouTube streets, right? You are a powerhouse, and you don't even really. You know it, right? And I know you. I know you. I know you. You look at the measurables.
A
Yeah, you see the numbers, but it's hard to visualize.
B
Now, listen, those numbers. Sean Kelly could run for governor of this state right now, and if you didn't win this time, you would win next time.
A
I would win. Governor. I would win. President. I would not win. You need a billion dollars for that. But, Governor, I would probably win.
B
You certainly win.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. I would move here to become one of Your campaign advisors.
A
If it wasn't rigged, I would win. Who knows what's going on with that?
B
Yeah. You are arguably one of the most power. You are in trouble if you make it to see. How old are you?
A
I'm 29.
B
If you make it to C35, I would be surprised because you're. You're disrupting.
A
I'm being watched.
B
And the conversations you're having are terroristic. You are literally a. A YouTube terrorist.
A
Yeah.
B
You are a. You're a social media terrorist that's not compromised.
A
So it's. It's a rare thing.
B
Yeah.
A
To be getting my amount of views, but not having to answer to someone or some company or some government.
B
Name somebody, name you. You have name something or somebody who has the level of influence you have.
A
No one. If you're getting 100 million views a month, I just find it hard to believe you're doing that independently these days. You're either getting funded somehow, someone's paying for your clippers, someone's paying you to say certain things. You know what I mean? Or you have some bankroll from someone
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else, and that someone else is a handler. What are you talking about?
A
Here?
B
Yeah, that's why I'm study looking at you right now. Making sure. Right.
A
I'm good.
B
I've done my research.
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What is it? March 13, 2026. I am still good for now.
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Yeah. It is 313 day from Detroit, by the way. So. March 13th. It's what we call 313. Yeah, it is. It is 313. The Detroit area code. 313.
A
Okay. I've never been there.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't hear the best things.
B
Nice place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there.
A
Yeah, I don't hear them.
B
I don't want to live here. Right.
A
Yeah. I don't blame you after what happened to you out there.
B
Yeah. People don't like me. I'm. I'm easy to dislike.
A
How come?
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How come? Because I don't have any handlers. I am where I am. I'm on this brother. I'm on the Sean Kelly Show. How many people from Detroit have made it to the Sean Kelly Show?
A
Big. Any. I don't think. Single person. So jealousy is what. What the reason is.
B
I'm on the Sean Kelly show. Let me say it again, right. I'm a product of two cities. Pontiac, Michigan, the east side of it, and Detroit, Michigan, the east side of it. I was supposed to be dead a long time ago. I have been who I am since 12, 13 years old. I am surprised that I am not a drug addict or alcoholic to the point where I can't function right? Not a functional one, but a dysfunctional one who is drunk and himself. I am surprised that I'm not dead. I'm surprised that I'm not in prison for the rest of my life. So everything I'm doing right now is all overtime for me. Wow. I'm on the Sean Kelly show, bro. Let me say it again. Maybe you don't fucking understand the significance of this. I am Dog Face Calderon. I am on the Sean fucking Kelly Show. I started podcasting in Detroit in 2011. Wow. I didn't have any examples of what podcasting was supposed to be. The only examples I had was Rush Limbaugh and the Howard Stern Show. I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh when I was in prison in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, when all we got was Wisconsin stations on the radio. I used to listen to Rush Limball. I watch. Listen to baseball games, and that was it. I have. I have transformed myself from that to this.
A
Well done.
B
When I leave this studio today, my life is transformed. I. I really want to cry because this is. This is so like people, like. But do you want to go on no jumper. Do you want to go on Vlad tv? You want to go on this and go that? All right. I wouldn't mind, to tell you the truth, because I understand. But I'm on the Sean Kelly show, bro. Are you serious, man? You know how long I've been from day one of your inception of doing this, right? I watched your trajectory. I watched this. I watched the people. You don't have ordinary. I'm on the Sean Kelly Show.
A
Appreciate that.
B
I can die right now.
A
Damn.
B
No. You look at where I come from and what I've been through. When you look at all the. The. All of the. That I have experienced in my life. Sean Kelly show, bro.
A
I'm honored. Truly am. But I'm more fascinated with you, man, how you made it.
B
I mean, I'm relatively simple human being, bro.
A
I mean, you said people don't make it out of where you grew up, So I gotta. I gotta find out how you did it.
B
Hey, listen, the reason why I. The reason why people hate me so much where I'm from is because there's no blueprint for what I'm doing. So they don't understand. They want me to fit into a box. They want me to do what they want me to do and say what they want me to. They are handlers. In the music business. You can't handle me. Detroit, it is five years behind YouTube and what's going on YouTube. By the time Detroit catches up to something, that something, the life cycle of that something is like they driving the fucking Model T. Yeah, you're too late. You're way too fucking late. So the things I'm doing is an aggravation and agitation. If I was a part of the system, I would be everybody's darling, right? So they hate me. And I don't even say. I don't necessarily think that they hate me. They just can't control me. So therefore, I have to be dealt with. I'm a problem. And now I'm on the Sean Kelly Show. Ain't no turning back from this.
A
How'd you get so educated? Was it in prison? Were you reading a lot?
B
You almost assaulted me, brother.
A
No, I'm just fascinated because we're gonna dive into these topics. But you are very educated.
B
Yeah. So how I get. How I get to be. Be here? I don't. You caught me. I'm a clone. You got me. Gig is up. Gig is up.
A
Your eye was twitching, right?
B
I'm y. You got me that. I was sitting here from XP9 3 of the quadrant of the thingy. Thingy. No, sh. I must. So listen, I'm a cancer, astrologically speaking, right? So I've always been a cerebral person, even when I had a. I had set. Subpar education. And so I'm the type of person who even living in the moment, right? I've always craved knowledge because I. I was. Somebody told me at a very young age that, that, like, knowledge is in information. It's like mathematics. The highest form of all science is mathematics, because through mathematics, right? Through numbers. Words are numbers, letters are numbers, space is numbers. Everything is numbers. So once you become a master of numbers and you really understand supreme mathematics, everything that you see, you've already measured it, right? You've already created a mathematical formula for it. I'm sitting here before you right now because I told myself I was going to be here. Two years ago, I told myself that I'm going to be here. And I set about doing the things that would put me in a space to where somebody would recommend me to you and bring me to your attention. I'm not doing what I'm doing to run a city. That's some nigga shit. Don't bleep that out. I'm not doing what I'm doing to become the king of a fucking seat like a rapper. I don't give a fuck about this.
A
Can you destroy it? You're gonna take it from Eminem?
B
Hey, Sean. Hey, listen. The people who run this thing that we call the earth, right? People who run it, the things that run it, the things that influence it, all right? The things that inspire what happens here. People don't give a fuck about whether you from Detroit or Australia. The people who are thinking like that, right, Those are the people who are actually the enemies to people who are right thinking and forward thinking. That's why we said with doll Face when we spoke before you, hey, dog face, people don't like you. And you don't necessarily try to make yourself the. I don't want to be friends. I don't want to play nice. I don't want to play in a sandbox with these people. I don't care whether they like me or not. I am looking you and I don't care. I don't. The things that I'm talking about, the things that you see, you follow my. I see you follow me on Instagram. I see you looking at shit. I'm not even supposed to be doing that shit, bro. I'm not even supposed to be engaging with these fucking mortals. I'm not supposed to be talking to them about hip hop and rap, none of that shit that the government put in place to control. I'm not. They elevated the worst of us to speak for the least of us. I'm not even supposed to be. I just told you. When I leave this studio today, what I do changes on every aspect of my life When I leave here because this shit here was bucket list for me. When I leave here today, the things that I. Everybody who's trying to position themselves to be an enemy of me, y' all can carry on with that shit. I'm on the fucking Sean Kelly show while you are sitting back trying to plot on me somewhere in a place that nobody gives a about.
A
You're always going to have haters, man. It's inevitable.
B
They're not. They're not wise enough to call themselves a hair of me. They're not qualified to be a hair of me. When you look at the lack of education, the lack of vision, a chain, a watch, a car, when you look at who they are in total and when you look at the things that they think that I'm focused on them, I swear to you I'm not. If I was focused on them, I wouldn't be on the. If I was genuinely, truly focused. Most of these don't even know who you are. Why am I arguing with somebody who doesn't understand that when they see this, until they hear me say this, they're gonna be scratching your hand, scratching their heads about who is the white guy with the curly hair. If they don't, they want to go on. On Breakfast Club. No knocks in the Breakfast Club. They want to go on Vlad. No knock the Vlad. They want to go on no Jumper. That's their bucket list. I'm not supposed to be talking to them. They're not supposed to have. They're supposed to just look at me in awe and never be in contact with me. That's what's supposed to be happening. Next question.
A
Yeah, their vibration is too low for you.
B
It is.
A
Yeah.
B
And I've been. I've been hurting myself by sinking into base level conversations and arguments with a bunch of droids, a bunch of extras in a scary movie called Detroit.
A
I could see why you left. Sorry. Detroit Dog Face is on to better things now. You said focus earlier, so what's the focus for you now after this?
B
I'm trying to become. I'm trying to transform my voice into a tool that can be used to help guide people to genuine understanding and guide people to elevated thought processes and guide people to productive lifestyles and productive living. I'm trying to use my voice to guide people from this plane of things made manifest into what is coming in not so distant future. I've already played enough with these rap. I've already. I've already rolled around in the mud enough with these, right? Because sometimes you have to trick people in order to get their attention. So I. I used that to get myself here.
A
Stepping stone.
B
That's what next, right? Because when people meet me before they meet me, they're like, oh, fucking barbarian, right? But once they actually have opportunity to talk to me. I've never left a person with an impression of anything other than wow. Especially if they've heard things about me after they had the opportunity to talk to me. They've always. I've. I am a. I am. I've never had an opportunity to really sit down and talk to a person who's had preconceived notions and imagery about who they thought I was based on what they heard or what they saw. I've never been in the presence of somebody who had something bad to think about me. And when given the opportunity to talk to me or ask me questions, I've never had a situation where I haven't been able to. Even if they didn't say it, I know they were thinking, God damn, what the fuck? So why are you doing all this? Why are you arguing with these fucking rappers in Detroit? What the fuck is that? Why are you. I was put here for a particular reason that they don't understand.
A
Oh yeah, you're here for a reason.
B
That's why. That's why. So we talk about. I am not from this planet.
A
You're an alien?
B
Yes.
A
What, what, what race?
B
What race?
A
Gray Palladian.
B
I'm above that.
A
Above that. I gotta hear this.
B
What do you need to hear?
A
What do you mean above that?
B
There are things that exist. Above that. There are things that bring gray medium together. There's always a force above what you think the ultimate force is. There's always some inspiration above and beyond. You're talking about things that are being discussed. There are things that are taking place now in this universe that people can't even fathom because they're not prepared for it. And I'll tell you that. And I'll give you that. And I will look in your eye and I will tell you that. Next question.
A
When you say not prepared for it, you mean their frequency isn't elevated enough to see it visually?
B
You know they're. Listen, when you talk about gray, right? You're talking to the. Is less than 1% of the people who you will. So it is 1 10th is 1. You. You are more than a reasonably intelligent person. Do you think humanity as a whole is ready for. They still waiting on Jesus? They're still waiting on a religious figure who died tooth.
A
You don't like religion?
B
I don't have a problem with it because I understand. It's a tool. It's necessary because human beings need to be controlled. Human beings need to be controlled because they. To leave them to their own devices. They can only do one thing and that's what they have been doing. Destroy each other.
A
Yeah, I always think about this. If everyone was religious, would society be better than if everyone didn't follow a religion? Would it be a safer world?
B
Religion is for the weak. That's what religion is for. If you are a follower of the genuine essence of who you say the higher power is, or your creator is, you don't need a house, you don't need a building. You'll need instruction from a another human being who is most certainly flawed his or herself. Religion is for people who don't have the psychological capacity to govern themselves and to understand and to tell themselves that if I do this, this is going to be result of that, right? If I. If I Do this, this and this. The result of me doing this, this and this is probably most likely going to be this, this and this and the fact that we have to have a conversation about that. The average human being doesn't even have the capacity to understand that without somebody telling them that. If you do this, this and this, then this, this and this is the result, bro. That is one plus one is two.
A
Yep.
B
This, this is the majority of the people that we talking about here.
A
It is crazy. I've known about karma since I was in elementary school. It's just logical. If you do good things, good things will happen, you know.
B
Hey, listen, there are elements. I don't, I don't, I don't use the term world, but they are. There are elements that have jived together and they are morphing together. They are fusing together. That is creating an entire dip there. It's. It's coding, right? When you understand AI and you understand coding and you understand how I just told you, it's mathematics. There's no, there is no cap on the equation of life. There is no. Well, this is the highest form. No, it's just the highest form that you understand, my dear soul, sir, because that's the highest level that your brain will allow you to accept. When you look at this world, in this planet, when you look at what's going on here, it is quite simple to understand that we are our own biggest enemies. Does it take Sigmund Freud to tell you that? Listen, if you think that cuz this, this, this, this thing that we call life. Do you think that the people who are. Who have been elevated, who have been elevated to star status or to celebrity status, to political, the hierarchy, you think that these people are really running and running this shit? No, you cannot believe that.
A
Pawns.
B
You cannot believe that for one second, even the president. We're talking about fucking Epstein and Diddy. Okay, listen, let's just say the whole world is talking about Epstein. The whole world was just talking about D. The whole world was talking about Donald fucking Trump. Does Donald Trump strike you as a person who belongs to the intelligentsia? Does he strike you as a person who is. Listen, human beings, there's no way that we can avoid. If there is, let's just say throw it out there. If there is force, if there is a power that exists that's greater than us, is greater than us for a reason, do you think that the force that is greater than us, who's operating on the same plane that we are operating on now, is looking at Us and has said to themselves that these motherfuckers are good for anything other than cannon fodder. Look at how stupid human beings are, bro. It can't possibly be the highest level of matter. Look at how stupid we are. I'm saying we look at how stupid. You see me as. We look at how stupid we are. Look at how low level thinkers we are. Right. Look at the thing. The most important things we can that we create are meant to control. You ain't trying to control matter though. Not for real. And when you do grab, when you do take, when you, when you, when you are able to harness matter, what do you do with it? You turn it into a weapon. To do what? To destroy people who are operating on the same or in the same sphere as you.
A
Destroying themselves.
B
They destroy sales. We all. Yes, we are all. I always talk about connectivity.
A
Yeah. We're all connected to one source.
B
Yeah. So do you. Listen, we know that there is intelligence beyond regular comprehension. Regularly.
A
Right.
B
What do you think they're saying about human beings who are left to their own devices? You think you're saying, oh, these motherfuckers are. They're worthy to, to, to know what's coming next? You, you're, you're going to take what's coming next and do what with it? You can't possibly be left or put in control or put in the know. You can't possibly be let into. If there is an Illuminati, you motherfuckers can't get in there because you're going to come in there with your low level vibration and destroy everything that was built for thousands, tens of thousands of years. It can't be let in. You cannot let them in. You have to. You have to. You have to control them.
A
Yeah.
B
You have to take over them in order to prevent them from destroying. We need this planet. We're not ready. We still, we need it. We're still mining and harvesting here. So we can't let you stupid human beings tear it up and destroy it before we're done taking from it. What we need to move on to the next level.
A
What are we taking?
B
Resources. This thing here, this planet, it's not the first Earth. Not the first human beings. You think you're first. You're so arrogant that you believe.
A
No, I don't.
B
Right. That's a part. If you do. And when you ever decide to think that. How arrogant. Where you get the arrogance from? You get it from history. And you get that history is a part of the intra nation.
A
Yeah. There's been some way more advanced civilizations here before us night and day difference. Look how they built the pyramids, all the ancient structures. We are so.
B
And that wasn't even. We don't even understand that with our smart asses, with our uber intelligent ultra. With our conserve alt right and super conservative left. That is all a trick. Is all that's a trick. That is what you call it. It's a s. A trick is a simple minded tactic or strategy to mislead a simple minded. That's what a trick is. When you are. When you and I are having conversations, we've had conversations. Under what circumstances do I take this and I throw it at you and you're looking right at me and you look at who you are, where you come from and what you have built with your own mind. Under what circumstances are you looking at me like that's some new shit you're saying over there? What? No, bro, do you know I've sat in front of world leaders, I've been all over this planet and you think I'm impressed by what rap record came out last week? Stupid you, you stoner. That's why the whole world is on drugs now. That drug, it allows people to. So. So people think that the drug people think drugs are. Those are. People think drugs are for weak people. No, drugs are for people who. Who are in tune with certain things and they can't cope with them. So they need some type of substance to help. And then once they get that substance, they can't control it. But those substances are for a reason. We need drug addicts. We need a large segment of this society to be hooked on drugs. We need people who would be. So when you think about it most, when you think about some of the greatest thinkers from Freud to whoever you consider right, they were all addicted to something. Right, they were all addicted to something. Because as you start to develop an understanding, as you walk through certain doors, you start to understand, your mind starts to elevate and then you can't cope with what you see. Because what you see most geniuses are what craziest shit because you are a person who operating with a superior level of intelligence. But you're stuck having to deal with. Mike, Sally, John, Pat, Robert and Bruce. So just imagine you imagine you being stuck. In. Just imagine you right now. Imagine me taking you and forcing you to have to. If I take you, I force you into the barrio of South Central la and you can't leave. I won't allow you to leave. You're stuck there, you fucking probably kill yourself because you are looking at bro you right now. I take you and stick you in South Central la. No distance. South Central la. Nice place to visit, but we wouldn't want to fucking live there. If I leave you there, and I'm not saying everybody's there is, but I'm a truth speaker. I leave you there in the environment, two things. Would you be satisfied with what you're seeing?
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No.
B
Would you think that you'd be a giant amongst men? You would be. It would be. You would be. You would be like Socrates, living amongst. Living amongst the tool male Homo heblibicus. Would you like, what the. Would you. Yeah.
A
It wouldn't work. I mean, I felt that way growing up. Honestly, I never really fit in in Jersey in Jerry. Dirty Jersey.
B
Jersey. If when the cleansing starts, Jersey is number one on the list, I would tell you right now, Jersey Shore Jersey is number one. We're gonna wipe. I want Jersey before I have been. I have been. We want Jersey before we want New York. Because Jersey is. We want that first.
A
It is brainwashed over there.
B
We want that first.
A
The conversations I have there are so low frequency and low iq. It's like unbelievable.
B
Why does New Jersey even exist?
A
It shouldn't. It's got the second highest state tax or third highest. And it's terrible.
B
Christie.
A
Yeah.
B
There's no Doug Christie.
A
No entrepreneurship there. You get bullied if you want to become an entrepreneur there.
B
Yeah.
A
People are so nine to five.
B
They try to distinguish you from being anything other than a dross.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Anything other than.
A
Yeah. Jersey. Jersey's ass, dude.
B
No. No wonder you have. No wonder you are trying to free yourself. You serious?
A
Yeah.
B
There's no Jersey.
A
No movement in Jersey, man. No good pods out there.
B
Academics.
A
Couldn't name one out there.
B
Could name one out there. Alan was no one. You know why? Because the. Listen, there is. There is a veil over Jersey as a whole that doesn't allow for.
A
As soon as I moved out of there, I thrived. Yeah, you're right. There's some sort of cloud over there. Just like bogs you down, fail.
B
They. They will never.
A
Some chemo clouds. Who knows what's going Jersey. They're just suppressing what the creativity out there.
B
What if. If. Listen, listen. So I have been to New York a million times and I've drove, I flown, I've drove, I've driven more than I flown driving through New Jersey. So listen, I start when I get to the Poconos. I start to get hives before I even get to New Jersey, bro. I start to get hives. What are you.
A
Get out of Jersey, guys.
B
Get out of Jersey. Get out. Blow that up up.
A
Yeah. Everyone look up your numerology and astrology. Find out where you should be living that resonates with your energy. Vegas is a snake city, I believe. And I am an ox. So I, I do well in, in Vegas. That's my, that's my boy. Snakes. I like snakes, even though people, most people don't, but snakes are good, man.
B
That's because they're scared. Because we do go into the whole reptilian thing and they really focused on the, the, their understanding of the cold hearted, uncompromising nature of a reptile. Right? You can't really negotiate with them because they know what they know, what they know. They were put here on this plane of things made manifest to carry out a particular function, right? And so people say we have it backwards. Ah, snake is cold, hard. Snake is this. You can't trust them. Whoever said you were supposed to trust it? Do you see cobras eating other cobras?
A
Yeah.
B
Do you see alligators consuming other alligators?
A
Yep. Snakes eat snakes too.
B
Who said that you're supposed to trust?
A
Yeah. These reptilians are no joke.
B
You protect yourself. You put, you create. Once you have your own catch, you secure it.
A
Yeah, I've had to learn that. Yeah. They enter my dreams. I've had to do crystals, salt. Gotta get psychics involved. They're so powerful, even if you call out Jesus Christ in your dream, which usually works, it'll expel ghosts and demons or whatever, it doesn't work on reptilians. They don't give a fuck about Jesus.
B
So you ever heard the story about the man who wanted to get across the river and the in the snake? No, never heard that story.
A
No.
B
Crazy.
A
Oh, wait, I might have.
B
It's a biblical story, right? It talks about how the snake came up to the, to the, the crossing, the boat crossing, right? And the riverboat crossing guy, the snake said, hey, I'm trying to get to the other side. I can't swim. And the, the, the, the rower of the boat said, hey, I would love to do it, but I don't trust you because you're a snake. And if, while we're out on the water, if you bite me, I'm going to die. I won't be able to continue to row. I'm going to die and I have to row in order to go against the tide. If we don't, the boat is going to float down the river. Capsize and we're both going to die. And so the snake said, hey, if I bite you, I'm trying to get across the river. I'm paraphrasing here. I'm trying to get across the river. I can't swim. I know that if I bite you before I get to the other side that you're going to stop rowing. The boat is going to get caught up in the tide, swept down the river, capsize, and I'm going to die because I can't remember. I can't swim. I'm. I can't swim as a snake. So the boat probably say, I get. I understand. He allowed the snake to come into his boat. Halfway across the fucking river, the snake bit him. And the boat pilot said, but you know that we talked about this. It was reasonable to me that you understood. And I was convinced that you were convinced that if you did what you just did that you were going to die too. And the snake said, but you knew I was a snake the entire time. I did what my nature told me to do. I used the power of words. I used the power of words in a deceptive way in order to get you to do what I wanted you to do. I'm not concerned about my life. I'm concerned about stopping you. I'm concerned about taking you away from allowing other people to cross over. Because the crossing is all symbolism. The crossing over is dimensional. I have to stop you because everybody can't make it.
A
That's deep. It's a good story. A lot of lessons in that story. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah. You got. Words are powerful. You know what I mean? People don't know that, but 95 of your thoughts are subconscious. So when you're listening to words, when you listen to rap music, hip hop music, that's just terrible for you. That's entering your subconscious and programming you. Same with movies, television. Be careful what words you listen to.
B
Be careful about who you allow into your circumference.
A
100%. Keep it on one hand. I don't want any holes in my circle.
B
You have a piece of paper and a pen I can use?
A
Yeah.
B
Straight line. Right. We know mathematics.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay, so talking about the circumference, radius. Right. An area of a circle. So the longer. So from one point to the next is a circle. Right? Right. So, so, so the distance from here to here, radius. Right. The greater your radius is, the wider your circumference is going to be, Right?
A
Yeah.
B
Your radius is the knowledge. If you have this much, you can't Grow further than the radius of the knowledge that you know. If my radius is from here to here, right. Then my circumference is going to be greater. If my radius radius is here to here, then the circle that comes is going to be shorter.
A
Right?
B
The greater the degree of knowledge you have, the longer your radius becomes. So that when you morph into the circumference into a circle, the more expansive you're going to be. So here to here gets you this. That's the knowledge that you got here to here gets you all knowledge, right? Without knowledge you're dead. Without genuine understanding. Without real serviceable, not the. Without knowledge. That's why it is important the work that you're doing. You're helping to expand the person's radius if they would just listen to you. That's it. Yeah, that's mathematics. I just told you that mathematics is at the, is the core, is the chief of all science. There's nothing greater than mathematics. I don't care if you're studying nanotechnology or how to build a house.
A
Yeah. So you. Do you believe in simulation theory then? Because that's all mathematics.
B
It is definitely all mathematics. And simulation has been taking place for. You think this is. Are you joking with me? Are you serious?
A
I'm serious.
B
Because I'm like. Because you asking me questions that you already know the answer to.
A
Yeah, I know the answer, but people watching this.
B
Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, I'm sorry.
A
Yeah, yeah, I already know most of the answers that I asked.
B
I get it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
A
I gotta wake the. I got a young audience, you know, these guys are waking up. I got you 18 to 35 year old males, 80 and they're trying to find purpose and meaning in life.
B
Surround yourself, surround. So try to digest as much as you possibly can your quest. So this, this whole thing. We're on a quest. You are supposed to be on the quest. It's a never ending quest. There's no stopping to this. There's. There's never. There's no such thing as. I have enough of anything. There's never enough. And let me explain that in the simplest terms. So if you are religious, fine with me. If you do believe in whatever you believe in, it's fine with me. If you believe that when you die you're going to somewhere else to experience your some heat or some cool shit, fine with me. Believe what you want to believe. But the people who are pushing that on you, I want you to understand that we're dead while they are. They tried to indoctrinate you into believing that you're going to find your ultimate reward somewhere in the sky. They are trying to take control of everything on this planet.
A
Yep.
B
Because they understand. They try. They're tricking you into understanding that your reward is going to come from someplace else. Meanwhile, they are taking control of that is like. See. See the are going. One plus one is eight. No one. You don't. You. You're too far over here. Come back this way. The people who are telling you that when you die, your ultimate, your reward would be stay in. Stay. Before you die, stay in line. Do what God wants you to do. Right. Do what God wants you to do. You stay in line. You be a good boy. And when you die, then you're going to be rewarded. If you've. If you're in compliance with what he he said that somebody else said that somebody else said you should do.
A
Yeah.
B
Meanwhile, the people who are the people who taught him to teach you to teach your children, teach your grandchildren to teach your great grand the same shit the same people who taught they are the puppet masters. They're the controllers. They want you to go up there when they control everything down here. And while you're focused on trying to get up there, they're focused what the do you think they focused on? Yeah, but I can trick you to. No, they don't believe that. That's why they try to do.
A
Yeah. They say to go towards the light. The moonlight.
B
Yeah. Okay. That's cute. That is a fairy tale. You read that to your kids when they be a time.
A
Yeah. Look into the moon.
B
Yeah.
A
Look how into how that got there and why are they guiding you towards that light? That's weird.
B
You are. You're not glitching, but I see a teardrop coming out of that eye over there. Shine. Really it's concerning to me. Is watering the right eye? Yes, sir. Is watering.
A
Oh no. What is that about tears of joy, man?
B
Because I'm.
A
You're spreading so much light and positivity. I'm just. You got me tearing up.
B
Let me make sure that I have my. This is. This is. This didn't come from here. This came from. This is protecting me from. It looks like it's the trinket.
A
You got some selenite hidden in there or something?
B
Is. It is protecting me. Is my. I've had several pieces, but this piece will keep me alive.
A
Yeah, I wear protection too. You have to, man. I don't want any. Anyone infiltrating my bio field. My energy field, man, can't be compromised these days.
B
You feel okay, sir?
A
I'm. I'm hanging in there, to be honest. I know there's some powerful forces on me right now. Lost some close ones, but I'm doing what I can, man. It's. It's out of my hands. You know what I mean? People focus on the wrong things. Can't freak out about evil forces. You got to just accept it. It's. It's here. It's always been here. And you gotta live with them, man. I think yin and yang is. Is needed. I don't think it could ever be all light. No, it wouldn't work.
B
It would not work. It could not work.
A
Yeah, people are always like, wanting world peace and all these beautiful things, but it just wouldn't work.
B
So you don't grow in peace.
A
There's no growth.
B
There's no growth in peace because there is no conflict. So we. We learn more and we. We expand our horizons, we expand our process when they are. We're challenged with something. Peace is. It is existence minus challenge. So existence minus challenge. It doesn't. We. We. We. We grow through challenge. We grow through adversity.
A
Yep.
B
We grow through troublesome times. We grow through conflict. Without that, then you don't. You'll never know how great you can be if you don't have a fall.
A
It's 100%. That's why I never try to be too comfortable, man.
B
I'm a disruptor, shy as you are. I don't. I don't know what you have been told about yourself, but a disruptor is not necessarily somebody who's yelling or screaming or creating a disturbance. A disruptor is somebody who is spreading or trying to spread or somebody who's. Who's a conduit for change. As a disruptor. If you are. If you are educating people outside of indoctrination, then you are a disruptor.
A
Yeah.
B
And that's why if you make it. If you're. If you continue to do what you do right now, if you continue this course, you won't make it to C40.
A
Damn, it was 35 earlier. You're giving me an extra 5?
B
I'll give you extra 5. I'll give you an extra 5 simply because of this. Because I think, you know that there's a cutoff point or I think that you know that you are needed. And I think that, you know, I think that you're going to go into. I think that you're going to retire. So it makes it look like that you're no longer a threat. And that's the only way you will make it. Before you.
A
It would be my last resort. A lot of my purpose in life is through work. But if I were to retire in the future. You guys heard it here. It's for good reason, you know what I mean? But I genuinely love what I do, so that would be a last resort. But you're right, man. They took out Charlie Kirk. He was spreading a lot of hate. Him or love them. A lot of information.
B
Information is. It's not about whether you agree. Do you think that this is about whether you agree with something?
A
No. That's such a bro.
B
Not you, but just.
A
I know what you mean. Yeah.
B
Do you think that this world, they
A
tried to make it a political issue?
B
Do you think that this world. Do you think that this galaxy, your own particular space, it.
A
You.
B
Do you think cosmic energy cares about.
A
Left versus right?
B
Do you think is the arrogance of you to think that the people who created all that you know, see, hear, feel and taste. The people who created the ability for you to see, hear, smell, taste and know, give a. About what you think.
A
You delusional.
B
What you rubbing delusional like it's lotion. You pass the delusion and rub it all over my body.
A
Are you a lot of narcissists these days?
B
Are you serious?
A
You know, a lot of people that believe it's crazy, they believe they have original thoughts when no human does that anymore. People think they have amazing ideas.
B
So. So original thought. We. What is original about what we see happening is this world are still throwing bombs at each other. Sitting rockets. I thought we sent rockets at each other.
A
Yeah, I know you said you're alien earlier and there have been reports that aliens will step in if it gets to a nuclear level.
B
Because we can't allow you imbecilic ass human beings to destroy it because we still. We're still mining. We're still mining. We're still sourcing.
A
Yeah. Well, it also affects their dimension too,
B
of course, because it will create ripples. And we can't allow you stupid human beings to do anything. So you have to be controlled.
A
Yeah.
B
How do we control you? Through religion? Through drugs.
A
Put you in fear.
B
We use religion and drugs to lure you to sleep. Go to sleep. We pat you on your ass with religion. We stroke your back with drugs. You stroke you. When you stroke a huge stroke a cat. When you stroke a cat, a cat will lie down. You stroke it. We rub you. We. We rub you to sleep with drugs. We patch on your ass with religion.
A
Yeah. Well, Dog Face, this was great, man. Thank you for spreading some. Some information here to. Where can people find you? I know you got some shows you're part of.
B
You can find me on Real Life street stars. I have a show called Real Life Unfiltered. You can find me on social media, Dogface TV podcast, and the Most Dangerous Voice in Detroit. You can find me on the Mafi Channel. You can find me. You type the name in. The universe will not allow me to be blocked. Type my name in. Go to the search engine. I don't have a name. Go to Google and type in.
A
We'll link it below. And leave you guys with this circle he drew. Increase your knowledge. Can you see that? Oh, it's too bright, but yeah, increase your knowledge, Guys, are this circle right here, which I used to be, but yeah, expand your radius. It's a pleasure, man.
B
Pleasure. Yeah, thank you.
A
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Episode Title: Are We All Living By A Script?
Guest: Dawgface Calderon
Episode Number: DSH #1989
Release Date: June 2, 2026
In this compelling and unfiltered conversation, host Sean Kelly sits down with outspoken podcaster and thinker Dawgface Calderon. Together, they unravel grand themes around societal control, the illusion of freedom, the decline of the black family structure, media manipulation, simulation theory, the role of religion, and whether we’re all living by a “script.” Dawgface brings raw, unapologetic opinions on everything from the Deep State to cloning, spiritual growth through conflict, and the limitations faced by those striving to break out of the "Matrix." The episode is rich with social and philosophical commentary, delivered with both gravity and humor.
The episode delivers its heavy subject matter with moments of humor and camaraderie, especially as Dawgface celebrates his journey from a tough upbringing to appearing on Sean’s show. Both speakers maintain an edgy, often irreverent tone, frequently referencing conspiracy theories, spiritual philosophy, and a kind of streetwise wisdom. Dawgface’s perspective, balancing personal experience and societal critique, pushes listeners to question what’s real, who’s controlling the narrative, and how to truly expand their understanding.
Final Takeaway:
Dawgface concludes by urging listeners to expand their “radius” of knowledge for a fuller life and suggests that true empowerment comes not from compliance but from questioning, learning, and disrupting the status quo.
Where to find Dawgface Calderon:
For the Disruptors and Seekers:
A mind-bending episode for anyone questioning media, authority, the nature of reality, or their path to personal freedom in a world seemingly “scripted” by higher powers.