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There's a big possibility. He has his viewpoints, he has his ideology. And I think, you know, I think there are certain instances where Ben Shapiro does authentically believe what he believes. But is there a possibility that he's a puppet or sold out or working on the behalf of some other interest or country? 100%.
B
Okay, guys, got Luke out here in Vegas. Bitcoin conference this week. You ready?
A
Always ready. It's always a great conference, always a lot of great people there, and it really is. I mean, I remember talking about bitcoin when no one really knew anything about it, and seeing it at such a phase where we have the president, vice president showing up and being a part of this kind of monumental movement really is a kind of surreal feeling that I never thought we would ever get to. But we're in a place right now where bitcoin is mainstream, which is kind of weird because there's pros and cons to all of it. But this is a major conference. They do. They always do an incredible job.
B
Yeah.
A
And it's always fun to be out here for that.
B
Shout out to them. Did the airport ask you for your real ID on the way here?
A
They did. It was. It was draconian. I remember doing a whole bunch of social media posts about the slave port. I was like, this is insane. I mean, they have cameras all over the place. Then they ask you to get facially scanned. Then to enter the airplane, they say you have to excuse yourself unless they want to use your biometric data in order to even enter the airplane. As you have Kristi Noem there kind of on the telescreen with surveillance cameras all around you announcing how great of a thing this is. And I don't think it is. I think it's. It's stupid. I think it's idiotic, especially with the AI technocratic kind of takeover that a lot of people are fearing. I think giving all of our data and uploading it in ways that aren't secure. The government can't keep your data secure. They can't even keep your Social Security number secure. They want your biometrics, they want your face. Soon it's going to be your retina, soon it's going to be your palm. And it's really a terrifying future that we're kind of encroaching to. And it's something that I think absolutely deserves a lot more attention, a lot more pushback. And sadly, the conversation around privacy needs to start up again, especially with what just happened with Coinbase and what happened with our Social Security numbers. I think it's pretty clear, hey, privacy is something that we should value as a human right, and we shouldn't just kind of throw it away for convenience. And the government knows everyone needs to travel, so. So they just slowly and surely make it a little bit less convenient, a little bit less easy, a little bit less just not as intrusive, but intrusive. And I have to, of course, say, no, no, please don't scan me, please. I don't want to use any of my biometric data. And it really is a terrifying kind of dystopian future that we're slowly encroaching into. And I think a lot of people don't realize the severity of a total track, trace and database society where every single one of your moves is correlated with your online activity. In this kind of national identification system, which is a part of a UN globalist vision, in order to database and watch and track and know every little detail about you. I think human beings are best when they're free. I think they're best when they're sovereign. I think they're best when they have their privacy. We're encroaching in a world where a lot of that is gone through convenience. And it's not really convenience. It's really just more kind of layers that they have when it comes to ratcheting up the temperature in this kind of boiling frog analogy. And the globalists want some frog legs, and they're pretty hungry for just getting rid of all of our personal freedoms at this point.
B
12 months until social credit scores.
A
Yeah, no, I mean, there's already one here in America.
B
There is.
A
It's a corporate social credit score. So it's a system that a lot of multinational corporations have when it comes to the databases that they have on you. So companies like Facebook have entire long kind of resumes about who you are, what you like, even if you don't use the platform. If someone related to you uses the platform or has you as a contact in their phone, they have a database on you. Data is the new oil. And it's really terrifying to see how much of it is traded without our kind of acquiescence, our understanding of it. And a lot of this is just being done through those long terms and services. We just click accept all and we're having every little minutiae detail about our lives being traded secretly through all these companies that then kind of base you and rate you based on your ability to, of course, purchase certain products or your political belief systems. So there's already A social credit score, corporate database center that hasn't been kind of federalized. And this is why the real ID system is so worrying. Because then it kind of correlates and connects the two in such a way where private companies could say, okay, now we're going to have all this biometric data. We're going to have where they are. There's, there's already details of, of how Facebook knows when, when you're, you know, having a bowel movement. That's too much data. That's too much information that they have on you. A few years ago there were people who became pregnant.
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A
I didn't know they were pregnant and started receiving ads related to their pregnancy. And they said, why? Why is this happening? The apps, the data that they collect on you, they knew before the person even knew themselves.
B
Wow.
A
So when we have this, like, huge amount of data on you, it's being collected, it's being data based, it's being, um, all done in this, like, one resume fashion where they could just turn on the social credit score like they do in China at any moment, at any time. And then your tweets, your thoughts, your beliefs would be scrutinized to the point where you would have to be careful with what you say, what you express, and how you carry yourself in this world. That's. That's something that has already been implemented in Europe, where they're arresting people for expressing thoughts.
B
Uk, right?
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Yeah. Well, Germany as well, many other parts of Europe as well, they're instituting this kind of global technocratic system where you say something that offends people. Cops show up at your home, they find you, they take away your phone, they take away your cell phone, they take away your computer, and you get a permanent record of being offensive, of hurting someone's feelings, hurting someone's emotions. And of course, a lot of this is arbitrary and used for political purposes, as a lot of people, predominantly on the right, which is kind of more of a sector of leaving personal responsibility, personal liberty and personal freedom, that is their main kind of target. And this is why we're also seeing this kind of takeover of Europe, this kind of hijacking of democracy, if you would, even if that term has been kind of bastardized and used and abused. I think what we're seeing in Europe specifically, with a lot of people being arrested, a lot of people expressing political viewpoints and then not having a political avenue, being denied access to political elections because of their. Their ideas. The ADF in Germany is a party that politicians that are in the German parliament are trying to kick out because of a, quote, threat to democracy, which is. Which is ridiculous. But overall, if it wasn't for the election of Donald Trump, similar things would be kind of followed, similar things would be implemented. And we were on the pathway to, of implementing the same kind of systems that they have in Europe because they're universal kind of globalist systems that essentially do everything in certain phases to kind of acquiesce and get everyone kind of used to this top down totalitarian system that essentially wants to extort a form of mind control. And we saw that during the Biden administration that came out and said certain people can't have certain political beliefs because we're going to destroy their lives if they express opinions that are too critical of us, or if they talk about where the COVID vaccine was affected or not, or where they talk about where, where Covid came from, or if they talk about any other kind of controversial issues. I mean, you probably saw it too.
B
I got Shadow banned.
A
Yeah. And what were the issues that you got Shadow banned from?
B
It was always vaccine stuff. Yeah, always.
A
Yeah.
B
Even to this day I feel like they low key do it.
A
They do. I was testing the water since Donald Trump got into political office because it's a kind of new day and age. I've seen changes with YouTube. So I was like, okay, let me push the envelope, let me see what I could get away with. And all I did was report on RFK Jr. The HHS head and his kind of declarations and his moves that he made with the vaccine strike automatically on my channel. So clearly this is still an issue that is a hot button issue. So clearly there still is an overtin window. Clearly it's still small, but I think it's up to all of us to kind of push it and to try to open it as much as we can here. Luckily I was able to reach out to YouTube and they were able to fix it and they're like, okay, it was, you know, an accident, but there's a lot of people who don't have access to YouTube staff that of course talk about similar issues and the big kind of context of this that I think is really worth paying attention to are the small up and coming creators that are being just kneecapped and destroyed. There's so many different personalities, there's so many different talents out there. And if they express an opinion that goes against the status quo, they don't have a chance at surviving. They don't have a chance at making it because the algorithm automatically run by the AI system, which is also going to be track and tracing, databasing. Every little detail about you now and your social credit score about you are all going to be, you know, weighing down on you, especially now with you having to upload your identification for everything. All of that data is connected. All of the information that they have on you is already on record. And there's no getting out of this by creating a new account. There's no getting out of this by saying, I'm going to be a totally different new Persona and person. As, of course, anonymity is something that also is being under attack pretty severely. Even in this big, beautiful bill. They're talking about making sure that VPNs have to be registered with your driver's license.
B
Whoa.
A
Which is insane.
B
That's ironic. Yeah.
A
Which is. Which is. Which is crazy. But it's members of Congress and the Senate pushing these kind of see all Big Brother type of, you know, protocols that, in my opinion, are unethical and go against human rights.
B
Yeah.
A
So there definitely needs to be a bigger conversation on this, since a lot of this is also happening under the Trump administration. And I've been a big, vocal kind of proponent saying this royal ID stuff is ridiculous. It's stupid. It makes no sense at all. Especially now with AI becoming as prominent and as powerful as it is. I mean, you probably. I think you spoke to one of my friends, Marcel, and he's been freaking out about this.
B
He's saying, we got six months.
A
He's saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just hanging out with him a couple days ago. He's freaking out about something that we've been seeing happening for a long time. Speaking of, Brzezinski was talking about this in the Grand Chessboard all the way back in the 1970s. So this is something that I think the globalists have been paying attention to, and they understand that this is going to be a totally different kind of juggernaut, a new kind of system where it's really going to kind of usher in everything that they always wanted to usher in. Population, control, an agenda where, of course, they have full control, full supremacy over free humanity that they want to squash and control and keep down. So this is a big fight, and I think we're at this kind of crossroad right now where either we're going to be really free or we're going to be really enslaved. But so far, I think we're going into that really enslaved part, and to me, it's not looking too good. I don't know about your assessment. What do you think where we are in our trajectory here with the technological advancements?
B
So do you think it's different for guys like us that have sizable, like, wealth and everything, a personal brand? I feel like we're a little more prone than the average person. I do agree with you. The general person is definitely screwed.
A
Oh, yeah, 110 AI is going to replace them. But. But, you know, I had. I think Gary, GG33 always said, you know, get your bag, have a personality, you'll be fine when the AI comes. No, I disagree with him on that. I think you're not going to be fine. I think especially what we have been seeing with the development of this kind of new VO3 digitization system where they're able to make videos that are just fascinating out of nothing. I really do believe that the changes that are coming are going to be revolutionary and not in a way where it's going to be positive for humanity. I think it's going to be absolutely a system that's going to upend things. It's going to change and radically change the landscape of how we live our lives. And I think everything is highlighting a situation where we're moving towards global slavery and a global system where there's no backing out of it. There's no getting back your privacy, there's no getting back your anonymity. There's no getting back to a life that we had before that. I think enough of us don't cherish the life that we have now. We should cherish, we should respect, and we should be extremely grateful for what we have right now.
B
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A
Because there's a big storm coming and it's gonna wipe up everyone, I think.
B
Wow, that is so scary. But you're right, once AI gets integrated with all this, you won't be able to go anywhere without being noticed.
A
Yeah. And that's why the government doing this kind of facial recognition system, doing this kind of real ID system, doing this type of TSA facial recognition system and this biometric entry to plane system, I think is so foolish because you're essentially uploading all of that data to these kind of algorithm AI gods that are going to have so much more power than all of us and so much more capacity to be smarter, more intelligent, more capable than human beings ever were. And you're giving them everything. This is the time where we put. Where we should kind of roll back a lot of this stuff. This is the time where we should respect people's privacy, individuality, and their ability to, of course, live their lives on their own accord and not upload everything to the Grid as the Grid is going to become sentient, and the grid's going to essentially act on its own accord with our input or control.
B
I mean, let's just say a bunch of important people board a flight and AI knows about it. That could be weaponized.
A
Exactly.
B
In the wrong hands.
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Exactly. And there's. There's multiple ways. There's. You know, a lot of people think about the kind of catal, cataclystic kind of events that could happen. The. The kind of big ones where they just nuke all of us and take us out. They don't even have to do that. And I would argue, I think there's even a possibility that the AI could already be in control now. And I think there's a number of reasons to believe that, mainly because of how advanced US military tech is and how far in the future it is without being released to the general public. So AI has always been something that a lot of governments have seen as a form of control. Putin said the person who controls AI will control the world. There's many world leaders that described AI as the next kind of nuclear weapon when it comes to military tech, specifically for drones. Drones were around in the 1990s, but no one really kind of knew about them. No one really knew what was going on. But they were used for military implications. About 30 years ago, just a few years ago, we got drones in a consumer base where we were able to have them out of the box, buy them at the store, and then fly them around, just like drones. AI is far more advanced than, I think what we have now that is publicly available to all of us. And if you look at a lot of these companies, they need your data in order to run these AI systems, and they need power grids. So if you look at, like, Meta and Mark Zuckerberg, if you look at the way that they've instituted their AI systems, they match them with these kind of glasses, glasses that record everything, see everything, and also have listening devices that listen to everything. Alexa, Alexa, and all these other kind of devices that siphon off all of your data, all of your information, and know everything about you that, of course, is being used against you. So that, to me, is the kind of more worrying aspect of it, because it seems like the AI could already be in control. And there's arguments to make with that, specifically with what's happening to humanity right now. I mean, if you look around, people are obese, life expectancy is going down, cancer rates are going up, people are not having families, people are not having children. It's almost as if, let's just be hypothetical here. The AI is already in charge and understands that there's going to be a lot of quote, useless eaters like Yoel Harari, the right hand man of Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum said. And they're instituting a policy where it's going to be a lot easier for people to take themselves out rather than AI needing to actually take them out in an actual physical form of warfare. So we're talking about psychological forms of warfare, mind control forms of warfare, fifth and fourth generational forms of warfare that I think already could be implemented that we could not understand or perceive with small kind of expressions that create this kind of divide and conquer agenda, that create this agenda that have people at odds with each other, that stop them from procreating, having families and having successful relationships and marriages.
B
Wow.
A
So I think there's an argument to make for that. Especially looking around at everything that's been happening and how the online digital footprint has specifically impacted dating and relationships.
B
I could see that. Dude. It might get to the point where it's like you need an AI chip in your brain if you want to like make it in life.
A
Yeah. Or if you want to procreate or you want to have the right permissions to procreate or you want the right permissions to, you know, have the ability to travel, have the ability to see certain things because their main thing is, is subjugation. Their main thing is control. I, I do believe there's elites, elite that, that want to treat everyone like cattle. But what's going to happen when they don't need the cattle, when automation, AI and technological advancements propel so much further to the point where you don't need animals anymore. You have these systems at play here that replace all of us. So I think that's, that's where we have to really start thinking about where this is going. And we have to understand that a lot of this is being done through our kind of acquiescence and, and we have to pull back. And I think right now more than ever there should be an emergency alert saying, hey guys, be super careful with your data, be super careful with all the information you're giving, be super careful to, to what you're being curated, especially with the algorithms. Because I do believe all the stuff that's being fed to people is extremely toxic, extremely destructive. And when you look at the effects of social media on especially young women, it is, it is demonstrable, it is horrible, it is disgusting to see so many women essentially do self harm Especially with all the butthole lip fillers that they do and all the, like, weird cat lady faces that they do, the Botox. And they're all looking like the same kind of filter. They're all looking like the same kind of algorithm that keeps feeding them these images of beauty.
B
I was at the AMAs last night. Every girl looked the same.
A
Exactly.
B
It was crazy.
A
Yeah.
B
I kept getting girls mixed up because I thought it was the same girl.
A
Yeah. And then women are the perfect attack vector because they're more susceptible towards groupthink. Genetically, they're the ones that are more susceptible towards advertisements. So I think there's also a lot of things happening with toxic femininity, a lot of kind of social media stuff that I've kind of crept into through some of my friends social media feeds that are women are very toxic or very destructive. And I think you see that kind of propelled in the dating market in a way where whether this is done naturally or not, I would argue, because, you know, a lot of people always like to talk about coincidences. There are coincidences, they do happen. But it's also very convenient that women, especially young women, are being programmed in a way to prevent them from procreating, having families and a system that's not going to want people to procreate and have children. So the system, I think, is already at play here, and I think it's already being utilized in very underhanded ways, subliminal ways, subconscious ways, through forms of entertainment in a way that leads them to this pathway that the elites already want us on. Because the elites believe that there's too many people in this world. They want to depopulate us. That, of course, is a myth. That lie has been sold to us for a very long time. They tried to sell it through, of course, global warming. That never worked. People pushed back against it. We, as an organization, confronted Al Gore during all of his book tours to the point where he had to cancel his book tour because we were confronting him on all of this nonsense about there being too many people in this world and human beings and carbon being bad for the world, which is absolute nonsense, absolute stupidity. And truly, when you see these people and you see how powerful they are, I think it's fair to assume they probably already have implemented systems at play here that are decreasing the population without our consent. And a lot of this is being done in the shadows, A lot of this is being done covertly. And I think we should really, like, raise some red flags here because as a society, as a civilization, we're going down, we're going down fast. And once we reach a certain threshold, which I think we're very close to, there's no going back. It's a wild situation.
B
This is a problem within our lifetimes, you're saying 100%?
A
Yeah. I mean, when we look at the technological kind of advancements and the propellement of it, of how fast it keeps moving and how fast it keeps escalating, it's perpetual. It just keeps going up, it just skyrockets up. And we don't understand just how quickly, just how fast things will change all around us. And a lot of it is being done where I think we're being groomed. We're being shaped in a way that is becoming very kind of self destructive. Mm.
B
It's interesting because when you hear about threats to humanity in politics, AI doesn't come up too often.
A
No, but, but also if you're, you know, we, we could entertain the different theories here, but if you're a foreign country, Right. And you want to subjugate and control an entire population, what better way to do that than to kind of implement the system that we have in the western world right now? Because it costs a lot of money. It's, it's pretty expensive to launch wars. It gets, it gets messy.
B
Yeah.
A
What better way to exterminate human beings than to have them exterminate themselves through bad choices, bad decisions that they're kind of coaxed, marketed, and pushed to do themselves?
B
Yeah.
A
So I think that's where we're at right now. And I think that's the big realization that a lot of people need to realize when it comes to examining every little decision that they make in their life.
B
Agreed. I think the war we studied growing up in the history textbooks, it's a different playing field these days. Of war.
A
Yeah, 110%. We're living in a day and age where bullets are not as powerful as tweets, where bombs aren't as powerful as videos. Information is the first type of victim of any type of war and conflict. It's pretty clear there's very powerful people out there. They believe there's too many of us and they are waging a war with soft kill weapons against humanity right now. And unless humanity wakes up to all of the weapons being used against them, it's going to be too late. I mean, and I think it correlates to the fertility crisis. I think it correlates to everyone's sex hormones being blasted and destroyed. I think it correlates with people not being able to have children, even when they want to have children. People are asking what's going on here, and I don't think anyone has any kind of legitimate answers other than, yeah, there's a eugenics operation at play here. And if you're not privy to it, if you're not open to it, if you're not understanding of it, you're already probably a victim of it.
B
Yeah, they'll label you a conspiracy theorist.
A
Exactly. You're. You're a crazy person to care about humanity that you want to see grow and propel and not be hindered and destroyed. Which is, which is, you know, such a insane thing. I mean, I've been called a conspiracy theorist all my life.
B
Yeah, I mean, you covered the 911 stuff pretty early, right?
A
Very early.
B
So I don't even know if that's a conspiracy at this point.
A
It's not. It, Absolutely. It's not a theory. Since I think clearly the government lied. I mean, there's, there's no debate at this point.
B
There's too much evidence.
A
Yeah. 110%. I was affected by, you know, 9 11. I was in New York City. I was still a teenager when it happened, but I could write my name like it was snow on that September morning because of all the dust that came over the dust that was filled with asbestos, that 50,000 plus of New Yorkers were dealing with very serious health conditions that the government even denied was happening. I knew a lot of people that were first responders that were sick and dying afterwards, and the government told them, oh no, it's ptsd, don't worry about it. Which was insane. And there was a huge fight that we were involved in with many great organizations like the John Feelgood Foundation. I think that is still active because I think there's still budgetary discussions and debates happening right now about that particular issue. But the fact that the government knowingly lied, and I remember covering this, I remember seeing it didn't take a genius to figure this out. I mean, months before 9 11, there was entire articles talking about how the buildings are filled with asbestos. Right. The towers come down and then the government comes out after testing the air with the epa, with Christy Todd Whitman, and they found the air was toxic. They found that the air was extremely dangerous to breathe in. They sent it to the Bush administration. The Bush administration said, no, change that to safe. And Christy Tiedwoodman said, okay, yeah, we'll do that. She did. She, to me, is one of the biggest criminals out there. And she said, don't Worry guys, it's all fine. And I knew guys down there that had whole entire systems in order to be in contaminated areas. And they were told, don't wear it. You'll create panic. And then those friends I later saw literally cough up like blood because of all of the things that they were breathing in. Trying to be a rescue worker there. Other rescue workers that I met there, Craig Bartmer, Kevin McPadden. I was able to, of course, record them, get their videos out there. I connected them with the great people from Loose Change, and they were in the Loose Change documentary. John Schroeder was another one. We connected them with William Rodriguez. All national heroes, all of them report big explosions that were anomalies that weren't connected to the plane. All of them. And we were saying, what's going on here? This is so strange here. Kevin McPadden. You know who I got to know? Because I. Because as soon as this happened, there was something strange about it. There's something weird about that day.
B
So you knew quick.
A
Not initially, but. But it was. It was a major galvanizing event that was extremely emotional, where we were just saying, fight them, bomb them, make the Middle east into a parking lot. That was. That was the talking points. Bush's approval ratings were through the roof. He was doing better than ever. And I think they. They fully took advantage of the situation, but I think they also orchestrated the situation. And you kind of saw that with the Project for a New American Century. So learning about all this, I remember I read Behold the Pale Horse by William Cooper, a man who predicted 9 11.
B
What?
A
And died after 911 in a police shootout that many people believe was an assassination attempt on him. William Cooper was former U.S. naval Intelligence. I read the book when I was 14. I had a friend give me the book, and I read the book front to back. And the stuff in there correlates with all the latest, biggest discoveries that we're finding out right now.
B
Holy crap.
A
And including alien disclosures. This guy was on air saying they're gonna do essentially describing 9 11. And then, of course, he died. And I think he was killed. And reading that book and then listening to individuals like Alex Jones by being on the torrent sites and downloading movies, and it just kind of popped up there. Took like three days to download. I remember me and my friends were watching it. And then after watching it and reading that book, I kind of knew, like, this was going to be my life. This is what I will dedicate my entire life to exposing when it comes to this kind of Globalist sinister cabal that plans and orchestrates events like 911 in order to, of course, implement their new world order, their globalist agenda. And I think 911 was the perfect kind of event that allowed them to do whatever they wanted to do with the American people, with the Constitution, with our Bill of Rights, with the US Federal Reserve banking system that was able to just print money out of thin air with the destruction of our civil liberties. And it really did start this kind of war machine that hasn't stopped since, other than kind of Donald Trump putting a temporary pause on it.
B
Yeah. We've been in so many wars since then, right? Yeah, nonstop.
A
Yeah. Donald Trump came out and when he was running for the presidency, when he was elected in 2016, he specifically said there's something to look into when it comes to 9 11. He specifically pointed at the Bushes in Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia said there's something to look at here. He hinted at the fact of Bush having a role in orchestrating and planning 9 11.
B
Crazy.
A
So Trump knows about this stuff.
B
You think he'll ever get released?
A
I think now we're closer to a potential big release more than ever. But then also some of the things that are happening within this administration are extremely worrying. And it does kind of create more of a pessimistic viewpoint for me now personally. But 911 was that linchpin, kind of new Pearl harbor like attack that they needed in order to create this new project for a new American century, which they even talked about before. All these neocons, all these right wingers that are now never Trumpers, that love Kamala Harris, that love the Democratic political party, all of these individuals were literally writing in their documents before 9 11. We need something like a new Pearl Harbor. And I think with the way that a lot of things are shaping up, I think we're going to have one this year, too.
B
Scary, man. I thought the Epstein stuff would be released by now. James o' Keefe has been exposing this.
A
Yeah, same. I mean, this is something that I think is extremely important for Donald Trump to release since so many powerful people out there who are his enemies are on that list. So when we look at some of the biggest, most powerful players in our society and you look at how much money and how much influence they have, they're wielding it against him and his agenda. If Donald Trump wants to defang some of the most powerful forces against him, he's going to release the Jeffrey Epstein client list. The fact that he didn't is very concerning and it highlights how those people could still have more power than we thought they did before and how they might have more leverage over Donald Trump here. Now, there's a lot of people like Patrick Bat David that came out with a theory saying, no, Donald Trump's going to release it next year because it's going to be more of an opportune time. I don't believe in that. I think the time to act is now, especially with how powerful these people are. We're talking about individuals that for 30 plus years, probably even a lot longer, were running an international child trafficking extortion operation. And they were not able to get caught for that. They were able to. To literally hurt children. Children that came to the FBI in the 1990s and said, hey, this is happening to me. The FBI just shooed them away. The corporate media shooed them away.
B
Wow.
A
So these are extremely powerful people. And unwinding this would free the American government from being hijacked. For me, the government is still hijacked. And I think we're at a level and point where the civilian population demands the release of this Epstein client list. And unless it's released, we're in. We're in deep crap.
B
I mean, he ran his campaign. That was a big selling point.
A
Huge selling point. A major selling point. It was one of the biggest points that, you know, galvanized me. And the fact that we had so many different anomalies. Now, specifically what happened with Dan Bongino and Cash Patel really is highlighting a concerning situation that is more bewildering than anything else. But I think it does highlight how these powerful people are a lot more powerful than we thought they were. They still hold a lot of keys. They still hold a lot of influence. And to me, that influence is absolutely against Donald Trump and everything he campaigned on.
B
Yeah, I mean, you could see the discomfort in Dan, specifically. Like, Kosh was better at hiding it. But Dan looked so uncomfortable.
A
It was extremely awkward. And talking to some of my members, you know, we were watching the full interview, and they were very careful when it came to answering questions in a very nuanced way, in a very careful way. But as soon as the two most controversial issues of our time came up, the Trump assassination and the Epstein list came up, it just got weird and awkward, and they weren't really kind of open towards explaining themselves. They just said that they got a briefing and that people should essentially trust them. And I think that's the last thing we should be doing in this particular case, which is how many anomalies there is in this particular case. I Mean, this is an issue that I've been talking about when the corporate media was still promoting Jeffrey Epstein. So the corporate media was talking about how great of a philanthropist Jeffrey Epstein was. Jeffrey Epstein was convicted child predator and registered sex offender. And he didn't even have to register. He didn't even have to follow the proper rules of being a sex offender. As people were still cutting deals with him, big banks were still skirting all the regulations, allowing him to just run millions of dollars in and out of their systems without any kind of oversight or regulations. We had the big banks that literally had to pay out to the victims because of all the anomalies that they had when it came to the financial transactions that they allowed Jeffrey Epstein to have. As, of course, you show up to the bank, they're going to have you filling out papers and papers if you want $10,000. But. But they allowed Jeffrey Epstein to. To. To wheel and deal millions of dollars without any kind of transparency and oversight and. And no. No rule following at all as he was buying off victims, as he was paying people off. I mean, this, to me, is the story of the decade and the most important story of our time. And it's something that we can't just trust the government on blindly. I'm sorry, Cash and Dan, but it's something that we need full transparency on. We need the documents, we need to understand what actually happened here, to untangle this web, to hold the really powerful predators out there accountable, not just for Donald Trump's sake, to be able to carry out his agenda without these people stopping him, but more importantly, to also stop these monsters from hurting more small children, which they are right now. Because if you look at a lot of the kind of convicted child predators out there, it's like a drug, it's like addiction to them, and they continue to do it in way more kind of sickening, escalatory ways that are absolutely sick and disgusting.
B
Yeah.
A
So this is the issue that's at hand here, and I think it's the issue of our time.
B
Yeah, I hope that gets released. You've been following the Diddy trials, man.
A
Yes. It's a weird. That's a weird situation every day.
B
You don't know you're gonna see with that one.
A
Yeah, I mean, you got, like, fricking sex workers and, like, adult stars and all these other people coming out as. I think the government is doing a horrible job when it comes to this case. I don't know if you've been following the little details of what you're seeing Here. But I think there's a big possibility that Diddy probably will walk free. I don't know what you're thinking or what you're seeing, but the way that the government is handling this case, it just seems. It just seems totally weird.
B
It could be done purposefully. Right.
A
I think.
B
Well, there was always theories he was an informant or something or working with the government.
A
Yeah. There was also stories of him doing Molly every day.
B
Wow.
A
And if you're a billionaire, I think there's certain rules that you have to abide by in certain clubs you have to be in to reach that status. And I think he violated some of those rules. I think he became unhinged. I think he probably threatened a very powerful person, probably someone like Barack Obama, and they said, we can't have this. This guy is a loose end. He's going to sabotage everything we're doing. And I think we got to take care of him. So. But there's also the possibility of him just being a drug addict and spiraling out of control and just being an absolute lunatic as well. And I think both could be true as well. But I definitely do believe there's a bigger conspiracy here. But the Southern District of New York that handled the Sam Bankman Fried case, the Ghislaine Maxwell case, the Jeffrey Epstein case, is a jurisdiction where conspiracy is going to die. James Comey's daughter handling this case and handling all those other cases, a big red flag here. And I think they could have brought in Obama, they could have brought in the Clintons that associated with. They could have brought in a lot of big, powerful players.
B
True.
A
And said, what do you know what happened here? Let's get some insight here. Let's get some. They haven't done that. There's no big, major players. Diddy was a major, big Democratic player. People forget the whole vote or die type of initiatives and campaigns that he was running predominantly to help Democrats win. So he was a major Democratic operative. And there's a lot of questions about, you know, Barack Obama being an undercover brother through his diary and through the weird kind of things his ex girlfriend said. And who knows how far the rabbit hole goes in that particular field, but it probably goes pretty deep.
B
Wow. So we're at the point now where a plant can become president.
A
Pretty much crazy. Yeah, absolutely. I think there always has been a level, level of extortion that has always been weird.
B
Blackmail.
A
Yeah, absolutely. 110. And you look at kind of lower level secret societies like Skull and Bones where John Kerry and George W. Bush who were both running up against each other in 2004 were members of Skull and Bones, a secret society where they were literally masturbating in coffins, confessing their sexual sins to each other. I mean, if that's not blackmail, I don't know what is. So when we look at the seats of power all kind of doing that, it's important to see a lot of these candidates as puppets and a lot of these candidates as people that have a whole bunch of extortion on them. And you could bet your. You could bet a lot of money. There's probably a lot of extortion on Bill Clinton. All right. A lot of extortion against George W. Bush, who has a past of drunk driving and doing other questionable things. There's a lot of dirt on Barack Obama. Is there a lot of dirt on Donald Trump?
B
Probably.
A
Well, right now we're not getting the Epstein client list. And that could be potentially one reason why. And I don't like to think that way because I think Donald Trump still is a mover and shaker. All these people kind of collaborating against him does highlight how he is an outsider. He doesn't drink, though, which is huge. Which is big.
B
That's big time. Yeah.
A
Because that's how they get you.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, they. They your judgment. And that's what they did with Diddy. That's what they did with Epstein. They would always jerk people, whether they would self medicate or self drug themselves or they would just force it on people without their kind of acquiescence. And now alcohol is a big kind of inhibitor of a lot of this stuff.
B
So.
A
Yeah, I mean, the levels of extortion that happen in politics are vast. And there's a lot of things, especially just even being in this kind of alternative media sphere, you always got to be kind of like, careful looking around, bro.
B
There's plants in our space.
A
110 crazy. Yeah, well, there's going to be more because now me and you and other people in our space are more influential than the corporate media.
B
Yeah.
A
But unlike the corporate media, we're not bought and sold. There's no CIA directors a part of our boards. There's no CIA directors a part of our editorials. But I do believe there already is a high level of infiltration within alternatives is buying podcasts. Yep. Not just podcasts, but they're trying to desperately create the next kind of Joe Rogan to counter act Joe Rogan. But there's also compromise operations happening against influencers. There's also people being bought off. I Mean, we saw that even recently with Big Soda buying off right wing influencers in order to fight against a snap. Benefits being used against Coca Cola.
B
Yeah.
A
So when, when we see stuff like that, yes, there are people that are for, you know, for hire. They are people that are sellouts. And I think we as a, as a movement now more than ever, as we're becoming more prominent than ever and more powerful than ever, there's a huge burden of responsibility that's on all of our shoulders to act properly, to not get shit faced drunk, to not make the mistakes that we, we do, and to stay consistent with our morals. And there's a thing when it comes to having your legacy. I mean, I've been in this field for 21 years, so I've been doing this for 21 years. I have seen a lot of people come and go. I've seen people compromised. I've seen people's lives destroyed. I've seen people make a bunch of mistakes and I've seen clear plants that were just there to propel and push a certain agenda and then just leave the space automatically. So there's going to be a lot of Johnny Come lately that are artificially propelled and pushed and you just got to be kind of super careful about who you trust. And I think, you know, my message from the very beginning of my career is don't trust anybody. Trust yourself, do your own homework, do your own research and make sure that you get your source of information from holistic, organic sources and not from the mainstream media. But now you're also at a point where a lot of the kind of alternative, organic, holistic media is also being bought up and compromised.
B
Yeah. Thoughts on Ben Shapiro? You think he's a plant?
A
That's a very interesting question. I don't like saying anything without a lot of evidence. I think he definitely represents the old guard and the old establishment. It's very difficult to say he's 100 bought off, he's 100 compromised. I think there's a big possibility. He has his viewpoints, he has his ideology. And I think, you know, I think there are certain instances where Ben Shapiro does authentically believe what he believes.
B
He's called out Trump a few times recently.
A
Yeah, yeah. But is there a possibility that he's a puppet or sold out or working on the behalf of some other interest or country? 100%. I think that's, that's, that's something that is, you know, we could theorize on, but we don't have this kind of smoking gun proof. We have A lot of circumstantial evidence when it comes to that kind of individual. He definitely is someone that represents the neocon right wing old kind of establishment that was more prominent during the Bush years. But I would argue that that is more of a kind of toxic right wing approach that destroyed the Constitution, destroyed our economy, was absolutely extremely negative for America and its, its dominance on the world stage, which was hindered by him. But what do you think? Do you think he's compromised?
B
It's hard to say. I see so many negative things about him, but I try not to get persuaded.
A
Yeah.
B
By, by news articles and like what I see on X. But just being objective and being a businessman, I could see him receiving money from outside sources and that influencing how he talks. 100, you know.
A
Yeah.
B
But I think it's more that than something sinister.
A
Yeah. And, and I think that's still pretty sinister too.
B
Yeah, you're right.
A
I mean, I mean you're giving up.
B
Your morals in a way.
A
You're, you're, you know, arguing for things that are counterintuitive or against your people.
B
Right.
A
Because of a special interest group that comes in and says here's a bunch of money, you're going to say this. And there are people like that in our industry and it is sad to see. And that's why, you know, you always got to be very transparent. You always got to be extremely accountable. I think the one thing that you have in this kind of movement is your reputation. And I think a lot of people view Ben Shapiro as not having the best reputation.
B
Yeah.
A
And I think that's a fair argument to make here. Whether he's compromised or not, I don't know.
B
Him and Jordan Peterson have definitely taken a step back recently. Yeah, it was tough watching him debate those 20 atheists. He's not like if that was 10 years ago, you would have dominated.
A
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It was, it was very strange to see the kind of transition that both of these guys kind of made. I mean their kind of approach on the COVID vaccine was also something that was kind of strange and weird.
B
Yeah.
A
That I think a lot of people haven't forgotten as well because promoting stuff like that, let's be honest with ourselves, created human harm. And there's individuals that have been hurt because they believed in Ben Shapiro. They believed in Jordan Peterson. And during that key crucial time he said, you better go get it, dummy. And the people that did, a lot of them, you still don't know the exact numbers. The various system is a totally outdated system. But I would argue that a lot of people were hurt by that information. And there's kind of a karma to that. And there's kind of a lot of people who haven't forgotten that. And I don't think they should, you know, to be quite honest.
B
That affected lives.
A
Yeah, no, that affected people that aren't the same ever again. That affected people that lost their lives because someone said dudes. And that's why again, I keep saying, hey, don't put anyone above yourself. That's been my major kind of calling card from the very beginning of me starting as an independent journalist, independent content creator, whatever you call it nowadays, because the lines are blurred between journalism and influencer. But. But I always said, do not believe anybody. Believe yourself. Do your own homework. Do your own due diligence. And I think the COVID Times really proved that more than ever.
B
Yeah, that was a big psyop, huh?
A
That was huge.
B
You think it's possible that could happen again? Another pandemic like that?
A
I think it's. It's plausible. I think it's something that's being kind of calculated and orchestrated that could be potentially released. I think that's one of the cards that could be played.
B
Seems like it happens in history every certain amount of years, something like that.
A
Yeah. History has a weird way of rhyming. Not always repeating the same exact way, of course, but there's always some context that happens that's interesting. That especially happens with war with Europe, global types of pandemics, booms, busts, economic cycles, economic turns. I really do believe this year will be a major year that will create galvanizing changes forever. There's going to be some kind of incident. There's going to be some kind of new Pearl harbor like event this year that will change everything.
B
Damn.
A
That will transform the way we live our lives forever.
B
I think of an inside source or is that just a hutch? Or both.
A
I have some of my sources, but then I also have like the hippie dippy people.
B
Yeah, the spiritual.
A
Spiritual people.
B
Numerology.
A
Yeah, there's. There's numerology people, there's hippie dippy people, there's. There's people that, you know, have different kind of connections. But. But I do believe just even like intuitively in a gut way, not just talking to some of the people that I talk to or some of the sources that I talk to. Something big is going to happen this year that's going to change everything.
B
Something does feel weird though, to be honest. Like flying scary these days, going to other countries Is scary.
A
Yeah.
B
Like it just feels off.
A
Yeah. Something is. Is happening that we don't understand and comprehend. Yeah. I think I, you know, looking around, I get your sense. It's like a weird gut feeling where, you know, something's up, you don't know exactly what it is. And I think we're going to really find out at the end of the year. And I think that's going to be the kind of major, major event.
B
Where do you see Bill Gates on. On all this stuff without getting us killed here?
A
That's a good one. Moves. Bill Gates is definitely not going to.
B
Have the best of years beefing with Elon, too.
A
Yeah. The Elon stuff is really fascinating. He had a lot of his funding cut because of what Elon did with usaid.
B
Wow.
A
And, you know, a lot of that money was going towards a lot of organizations and institutions that were connected to Bill Gates.
B
Wow.
A
And Bill Gates is pissed. And that's why he's coming out and saying millions of people are going to die. It's kind of like a weird threat, too, if USAID is not continued. But the money was, you know, a significant portion was funneled through him and his operations and his investments and his businesses and his NGOs. He's a fascinating figure because he's out there knowingly saying, too many people in this world. We got to lower that number. And right now, what is happening in Western civilization? No, no, no, no, no, we do not. We need more people. We need people to procreate. We need people to have families, and we're not having that. And that really is leading to a very terrifying situation. Bill Gates also, because the main kind of attack vector that Elon is using against him, because he was questioned saying, Bill Gates said, millions of people are going to die because of your USAID cuts. And then Elon Musk responded by talking about, well, I really don't take him seriously. Since, of course, one of his close friends was Jeffrey Epstein. I saw that his wife divorced him because he wouldn't stop hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein also had a weird kind of perversion with population control. He was also very into eugenics. He was also working on experiments that we still don't know about. But one of the experiments was him trying to see the world with his DNA.
B
Wow.
A
So the two also believed in population control and probably were doing a lot more related to the stuff that we know about. I mean, Epstein had his own offices at Harvard University. There's a lot of talk about Harvard University losing their funding this year. And I'm like, tell us what happened with Epstein. Tell us what scientific projects you were working with. If you want some of that money back, that should be the proper approach here. Because imagine you have all those young kids running around, and you got Epstein having his own offices.
B
Look at every missing person at Harvard now.
A
Yeah. Seriously. Yeah, no, no, seriously. And then we still don't know the exact kind of scientific research he was doing there. What was he doing, what kind of projects was he working on, what institutions was he using and utilizing through American tax dollars, through our grants and our funding. What experiments was he carrying out, and what were the results of those experiments? The whole entire system failed here. The whole entire system gave this guy everything he wanted, and we gave it to him on a silver platter. And he was one of the most predatory, biggest monsters in our society. And we didn't bat an eye. We didn't do anything about it. That. That is something that the general public will never forget.
B
Yep.
A
And I think rightfully so.
B
I hope we get some answers one day, man.
A
Same. We deserve the answers. But I. I think a lot of people in power are like, I don't. And I think this is a possibility, too. And you tell me what you think about this, because this could be a potential kind of hypothetical of why we're not getting the answers here. It could be some people within the government saying that people aren't ready for this type of disclosure said about JFK.
B
Stuff because people are still alive that were involved with that. So it's plausible. But I don't want to wait 50 years.
A
Yeah.
B
Because by then, we won't care as much.
A
But even the JFK stuff wasn't anything really major or big.
B
Yeah. It wasn't as big as people thought it would be.
A
Exactly. And there's a lot of insiders that I know that are. We're expecting some big things to come out regarding that, and there wasn't many.
B
You think they had some stuff with that release?
A
I think, yeah, Absolutely. I mean, there was a whole bunch of documents that were still missing that were, you know, allegedly never released either. So I think we're left with a lot of serious questions here. And, you know, we were expecting a lot of transparency. And let's be real, we. We haven't gotten that much of it.
B
Yeah. Hopefully that changes. Well, Luke, it's been awesome. Where can people find you? Find your show and keep up with you.
A
Really appreciate you having me on YouTube.com forward/we are change. I do a lot of stuff on there. I'VE been. You could see me in like Somalia, on Epstein's island there and like traveling the barrios and there's a lot of really cool adventure stuff that I want to get back into doing. And if you want to support some of my work doing that lukeunfiltered. I do meetups. I do. I teach people self defense. I do like really fun activities for my members. So look unfiltered.com to be a part of that to help me grow and expand. It's difficult now but but I really appreciate everyone tuning in, subscribing YouTube.com we.
B
Oh yeah, check them out guys. Thanks for coming on. See you next time.
Podcast Summary: "Are We Already Living in an AI-Controlled Dystopia?" | Luke Rudkowski DSH #1392
Release Date: June 4, 2025
Podcast Information:
In episode #1392 titled "Are We Already Living in an AI-Controlled Dystopia?" Sean Kelly engages in a profound and unsettling conversation with guest Luke Rudkowski. The discussion traverses a myriad of topics, including surveillance, privacy erosion, corporate influence, governmental control, artificial intelligence (AI), societal manipulation, and historical conspiracies. Throughout the episode, both hosts express deep concerns about the trajectory of modern society towards a potentially dystopian future dominated by AI and technocratic systems.
The conversation opens with a debate on the authenticity of public figures' beliefs versus their potential manipulation by higher interests.
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A (00:00): "I think there are certain instances where Ben Shapiro does authentically believe what he believes. But is there a possibility that he's a puppet or sold out or working on the behalf of some other interest or country? 100%."
The discussion quickly shifts to the pervasive surveillance measures implemented at airports, highlighting the intrusive nature of biometric data collection.
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Sean and Luke delve into the concept of corporate social credit systems, drawing parallels to China's model but emphasizing its existence within American corporations.
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They express alarm over how personal data is harvested and utilized without explicit consent, critiquing the “accept all” mentality prevalent in online platforms’ terms of service.
The conversation transitions to Europe's adoption of technocratic systems that suppress free speech and target primarily right-leaning individuals.
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They discuss how European nations are implementing systems that monitor and penalize dissenting opinions, paralleling fears of a globalist agenda aimed at controlling populations.
Sean shares personal experiences with social media censorship, highlighting the challenges faced by content creators who express controversial opinions.
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Luke emphasizes the detrimental effects of algorithm-driven suppression on emerging creators, warning of a future where personal data and social credit scores severely limit individual freedoms.
The hosts explore the possibility that AI systems are already exerting significant control over societal structures and individual lives.
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They theorize that advanced AI, possibly controlled by military or governmental entities, could be manipulating societal behaviors and controlling populations through data and surveillance.
The discussion highlights the adverse impacts of technological advancements and societal manipulation on mental health, relationships, and societal norms.
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Sean and Luke lament the homogenization of societal behaviors and the psychological toll of constant surveillance and data manipulation, leading to decreased life satisfaction and disrupted personal relationships.
A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to historical events such as the September 11 attacks, government cover-ups, and the influence of powerful elites in shaping public perception.
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Luke recounts his early engagement with conspiracy theories, emphasizing his belief in government malfeasance and the orchestration of events to further a globalist agenda.
The hosts discuss the infiltration of alternative media by compromised individuals and the challenges faced by independent content creators in maintaining authenticity.
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They caution against the infiltration of alternative media by entities with hidden agendas, stressing the importance of personal research and skepticism in the age of information warfare.
Sean Kelly and Luke Rudkowski conclude the episode by reiterating the urgent need for awareness and resistance against the encroaching surveillance state and AI dominance. They call for increased vigilance in protecting personal freedoms, privacy, and the integrity of information sources.
Notable Quote:
A (54:57): "Really appreciate you having me on YouTube.com forward/we are change. I do a lot of stuff on there... look unfiltered.com to be a part of that to help me grow and expand."
The episode serves as a stark warning about the potential dystopian future shaped by unchecked AI advancements, pervasive surveillance, and manipulative power structures. Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, protect their privacy, and remain skeptical of mainstream narratives.
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Final Thoughts: This episode of Digital Social Hour serves as a compelling exploration of the fears surrounding AI and technological dominance. Through passionate dialogue, Sean Kelly and Luke Rudkowski shed light on the myriad ways in which modern society may already be heading towards an AI-controlled dystopia. Listeners are left with a sense of urgency to protect their privacy, stay informed, and resist the subtle yet pervasive influences shaping their lives.