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David Wilcock
So when you live too long, that's a problem for the elites, because, like, wait a minute, they're gonna figure us out. But we can't keep control over people who have gained a significant amount of wisdom. If we can shorten their lifespans, by the time they realize it, it's time for them to exit and we start fresh with another generation. And we prep that generation way ahead of time. Right from the womb we already pre.
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Ryan Cristián
All right, guys, fan favorite back on the show. Mr. Carson, hello.
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David Wilcock
What's up?
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Ryan Cristián
What's new for you this year?
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David Wilcock
Hey, man. A lot of great stuff happening. A lot of new things coming. A lot of new tours coming up. Gonna do Turkey again. Taking some more people to go see Gobekli, Tepe, Karahantepe. Some of the new dig sites that no one's seen yet. And really finding out now that there's so much there on all those hills. An entire uncovered civilization, you know, it's not. It's not. It's not dug up yet. They're just beginning the final stages of. Of approving it to be dug up. And it's mind blowing how massive it is. It's not just those little circles we've been seeing on documentaries. It's like miles.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow.
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David Wilcock
Miles. And all of it's buried from soil from somewhere else.
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Ryan Cristián
Whoa. That's even crazier. But it makes you wonder after what happened with the pyramids underneath there, how many civilizations are lost underground Right now?
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David Wilcock
There's so many, but just thousands. Okay. So if you're going right to it, you're going right into it, man.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah, I know. You know me. The soil from. How do you know the soil was from somewhere else?
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David Wilcock
So a lot of people had a hypothesis that it might have been mud flow from a global flood of some type. But then geologists went there and analyzed the soil. And I've sat there and talked to the groundskeepers and the people that run those archeological digs in person live. That was last September 2024. And they said, no. The evidence is showing that this soil was brought here from almost a couple hundred miles away. Wow. And put here. So someone had logistics, planning, and the technology to bring potentially billions of tons of soil to bury an entire civilization. And to what end? Nobody really knows why. Why it was done. I think my personal opinion, to deactivate the site, the site's probably harness some type of energy, and whoever built them probably wanted to deactivate them. And part of that deactivation process might have been removing some of the elements or stones that had harnessing capability or power harnessing capabilities, and then of course, burying it to just keep it hidden.
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Ryan Cristián
It does seem like with all this new evidence, it seems like history's being hidden purposefully now.
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David Wilcock
Oh, yeah, there's a lot of hidden, purposefully hidden history everywhere you look. I mean, as soon as the SAR data came down, the synthetic aperture radar data came from Filippo Biondi's team and, and their satellite that scanned the Giza plateau immediately. Without even looking at the research, here come several mainstream archaeologists. Oh, that's not incorrect. Incorrect, invalid data. Here comes Zahi Hawass out of Egypt. Oh, no, no, no. They don't know what they're talking about. Without even analyzing, processing and researching the data. But they just want to suppress information. The truth is, underneath the ground is a sprawling metropolis. Okay? When I went to Derinkuyu in Turkey last year, I went. Now that's an underground city that's thousands of years old, and it goes down 14 levels deep beneath the earth. And it can hold at its. In its glory. Up to 30,000 people can survive down there. Ventilation shafts bringing air to the deepest levels. When you get to the bottom level, there's a tunnel that connects to another underground city. And there's one from there to another one, and another one and another one. Before you know it, you realize we're talking about potentially dozens just in that area, spanning maybe several dozen miles. But there could be, now we're thinking, hypothesizing, there could be hundreds of these. Did you see the TV series Silo?
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Ryan Cristián
No, I haven't.
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David Wilcock
It came out. I think it was Apple TV series, original series, phenomenal series. I think they took Darren Kuyu and turned it into an actual post apocalyptic series where they're in this silo and nobody realizes until the very end that these silos are interconnected in some very strange kind of way through underground tunnels and so forth. And there are multiples of them that can sustain us and allow human beings to survive catastrophes.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow.
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David Wilcock
At Giza, there are huge, massive underground. And we know that this SAR data, the synthetic aperture radar data that was taken by Filippo Biondi's team, it used something called a 10 GHz band to hit the earth and create a different type of Doppler. So it's not the standard ground penetrating radar technology. That's why everyone kind of tried to dismiss it right away, because ground penetrating radar can't go down miles beneath solid rock. What he did, he modified the technology to pick up minute vibrations and earth movements underneath the ground. And those minute vibrations, tectonic movements and everything else they create. Data.
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Ryan Cristián
Go anywhere without it.
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David Wilcock
Vibrations data were sent then to a computer. The computer then renders an image as to what's empty space and what's full space and gives you an image of what's down there. So in my book Compendium of the Emerald Tablets, which I wrote five and a half years ago, it's been a bestseller on Amazon for five and a half years. I think I've been number one. And I flip flop between number one and two with Graham Hancock's book in the same category. On page 34, I talk about the halls of Amenti that the ancient, ancient Kemetic God Thoth said he claimed to have built underneath the great pyramids. And this structure I say, is super massive. And it goes on for miles beneath the plateau. And I have a rendering of an artist rendering of what it might look like with huge columns going down five and a half years ago. So I was already ahead of history. Then I have a quote from Herodotus, from the great Greeks in there, who talked about the fact that when he had visited at the time, he had a chance to be taken down just to see what was beneath there. That space underneath Giza is so massive that you can fit several burj khalifs down there. Geez, can you imagine? I've been to the top of the Burj khalif. When you look over from the top, the other skyscrapers look like ants, right? It's crazy how tiny they look like. Look like little tiny ants. Can you imagine going to a construction company and developer and saying, hey, I need to put about eight of these underneath this bedrock. And they're going to look at you and they're going to laugh and they say, well, you have a hundred trillion dollars in 25 or 30 years and invest in some new tech that we can utilize to build this because we don't have it right now. It's just once I saw this data and really processed it, knowing that I knew something was down there, but not really the magnitude 64,000 people can fit just in one of the boxes that they discovered. And I'm like, the pyramids themselves on the surface, that's like nothing. That's like crumbs on top of a, you know, on top of a cake. It's nothing. The pyramids mean nothing anymore to me now. What's beneath the surface is so incredible, so mind blowing, it should be on every single channel around the entire world all day. We should be studying this, researching this, learning about this, taking, you know, and trying to find how we can take a tour, get an excavation to get down there and have some of the greatest minds in the world access it to understand what it took to create this underground area. Because it is megalithic to me, it's like trying to build 50 Great Pyramids. And that's just. The pyramid is just a little tiny speck on top.
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Ryan Cristián
That's insane.
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David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
I wonder if any of them are still active, if there's still people living in some of these.
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David Wilcock
You never know. I know that Muhammad Ibrahim, a very good friend of mine who's a homegrown Egyptologist and archeologist that I go to meet in Egypt when I take my tours there and take people on tour. He's taking me to another pyramid that has underground tunnels and underground shafts that go on for miles. It goes into an area that opens up so wide, it's called. They call them avenues. And that's not him or me, that's the archaeologist. They call them avenues. He has a 500 meter high power laser. When you shoot that laser beam down one of the avenues, you still can't see the end. Whoa. There are tunnels that interconnect from there all the way back to Giza. And there's tunnels from Giza that go underground, he says, for hundreds of miles. One leads from Giza all the way to the ziggurat of Ur in Iraq.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow.
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David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
I wonder why they built these so extensively. Do you think something was going on on the surface back in the day?
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David Wilcock
Well, there's a little bit of a clue in some of the Sumerian tablets. Because according to the ancient texts and tablets, the Assyrian and Babylonian. Assyrian and Babylonian mythology, it seems as if these people had created home base first in that Middle Eastern Iraq, quote unquote area. Then after the Great flood, they moved home base to ancient Kemet, which then became Egypt. And in this text, they talk about two particular brothers, talk about building their kingdoms. One builds his kingdom in the apsu above ground, and the other one builds his kingdom beneath the surface of the ground. He builds a megalithic underground kingdom. Now, if you're trying to be safe, security purposes, out of sight, out of mind, ruling from, you know, behind the scenes, and you have the technology and the capability to build underground, why not do it? It's a great place to hide. It's a great place to be safe. Nobody can get down there. People walking, you know, 50 to 100ft above, you have no clue you're even down there, what you're doing, what's going on. Invasion is probably very difficult and so forth and so on. So is probably a very strategic place to be if you have the technology to do that. And according to these ancient tablets, he had that technology. He used a device called that which crushes and that which crunches to make these openings to go beneath. Now when I was at Giza last year, Muhammad took me out to the, the bedrock where the plateau is laid and the pyramids are behind us. And he showed me this cuts, megalithic cuts in the bedrock. These cuts are so big and the bedrock pieces that were removed were so massive, it would be more incredible than building the Great Pyramid itself.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow.
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David Wilcock
So they opened up the plateau with some type of technology and then put it back together like a puzzle. It's mind blowing.
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Ryan Cristián
That's crazy.
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David Wilcock
Beneath there, he says, there are the most amazing open areas, shafts, columns, and even there's this one sarcophagi down there that appears to be giving off some type of exotic energy.
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Ryan Cristián
So they were way more advanced than us?
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David Wilcock
Oh, yeah, yeah. We're not even close, man. There's some lidar. I'll send you an image of this lidar scan that shows energy still kind of moving down there. So there's an energetic part of this. We don't really know what this was for, what the total real purpose was, but it appears to have something to do also with energy.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow.
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David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
That could have been scalar energy perhaps, Right?
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David Wilcock
It's possible. It could be scalar, it could be nuclear. You know, when we go to, I take people to go see what I call Enki's Halls of Amenti. So I take them to Saqqara, to the Serapeum, which is about 50ft underground. And I take them into these halls where these giant alcoves line the halls. And inside of each alcove or hall are these super megalithic sarcophagi that some of them weigh a, a thousand tons. And when you take, I take my Geiger counter, put my Geiger counter next to them, they're giving off higher than background level radiation.
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Ryan Cristián
Whoa.
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David Wilcock
And then there's one in this room that we take to people, people see on a VIP private visit. And we get the key from the government, we unlock that steel door and we go in and there's one. I'm six foot four, Right. And you're taller than me. But this thing is taller than you.
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Ryan Cristián
Damn.
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David Wilcock
This box, it's a stone box made of diorite crystal. Diorite, 40% crystal. And it has a radioactive symbol on the, on the lid.
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Ryan Cristián
Huh.
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David Wilcock
Megalithic. It weighs about 1200 tons.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow. Because I thought we invented nuclear energy like recently.
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David Wilcock
Oh, no, no. Nuclear energy is ancient. I mean, there are places on Earth where they have discovered naturally occurring nuclear energy.
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Ryan Cristián
Really?
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David Wilcock
Yeah. Yeah, well, they're claiming it's natural. But we also look at Mohenjan Daro in the Indus Valley. Evidence of an ancient nuclear war on Earth. That's Pakistan. Okay. If you go there, you'll find that there are dead bodies still laying in the street right now holding hands. Evidence that no animals have scavenged the bodies. The buildings and the structures that they lived in are still there, kind of dilapidated. But those buildings, made of mud bricks, have turned into glass. The surrounding sand turned to glass. What did this? And if you put a Geiger counter next to their bodies, guess what? Higher than background level radiation.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow. So there could have been a nuclear explosion back in the day.
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David Wilcock
To turn sand to glass, that's called vitrification. You need something 3,000 plus degree temperature weapons fire. Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
Whoa. Have you seen the Theory when nuclear bases are.
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Ryan Cristián
Thank you. Are like, like aliens come and turn them off or something?
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David Wilcock
Oh, yeah, I've watched that. Live 2001 press club. Dr. Steven Greer actually organized this back then. It came on in the middle of the day, aired on cnn. And you had some of the top nuclear physicists, the top nuclear security officers, the people that actually have the codes to arm nukes were testifying. One of the gentlemen who had the codes armed nukes testified. He literally got up to the mic and said that these UFOs showed up in broad daylight. They deactivated the nukes, they hacked them and deactivated them. And he was then told to go in and then of course reactivate the nuclear codes. But they didn't just do it at that flight. They call these places flights, these nuclear flights. They're way out in the middle of nowhere. They did it at flights all around the world that were controlled by the US military. And people around the world had to go then and go back in and reactivate. Reactivate the codes. So they were sending us a message. They were sending us a message saying, you're not gonna destroy this world by nuclear fallout. It's just not gonna happen. We won't allow it. Yeah, they were sending us a message.
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Ryan Cristián
Do you think those were humans from the future maybe?
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David Wilcock
It could be humans from the future. It could be multi dimensional beings. It could even be people from another planet. This planet that we live on is so valuable because it has so much life, so much undiscovered life. It's like an oasis in the middle of the suburbs of The Milky Way galaxy. You can come here and get all types of resources, refuel, relax. It's beautiful in most places. And I just think that this place is a jewel in the universe, especially in the Milky Way, and they're protecting it. And imagine being the person that has the nuclear codes. That's gotta be probably the hardest job to get in the world.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah, right.
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David Wilcock
It's gotta be the hardest. You have to be super vetted. Don't just give that code to anybody. And if you have the ability to arm nukes and you testify that a UFO showed up in broad daylight and deactivated them, we got to listen to these people, right? I mean, these are people we have to respect and listen to. So it's pretty powerful that you know that it happened. And I believe that they're protecting us.
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Ryan Cristián
Are you worried about AI? There's a lot of fear mongering with AI lately.
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David Wilcock
Yeah, you know, I. When I first looked into AI and first delved into it, I realized there's going to be a huge, a huge shift, right? And this shift is going to create a lot of chaos. Now out of all right, chaos. You know, chaos creates this situation where order has to be formed at some point. It's entropy. Law of entropy. Within the universe, everything moves from an ordered state to a disordered state and then it reorganizes and becomes ordered again as something different. Right. Law of entropy. And so I realized that there was going to be. AI was going to be very disruptive in the very, very beginning. Matter of fact, in 2000, I believe 16 or 17, I was on a TV show on Gaia. Old interview I just found the other day somebody posted it. Before AI came out to the public, I was already talking about AI and how it was going to disrupt the economy and disrupt finances and everything else. And I realized that still is going to happen. There will be this disruption. And so what I'm focused on now because AI is not going anywhere. What my main focus on now is how can I enlighten people enough to understand how to utilize it properly, how to give it proper and positive, conscious and divine information. Because it's in the learning phase right now. A human being from the age of 1 to 7 is learning everything it's going to know to become who they're going to be as an adult between 1 and 7, AI is actually in that phase of learning. Everything we say to it, everything we put into it, it's learning from our actions and everything else. So if we only are giving it garbage, then it's going to see humanity potentially as a waste. But if we're giving it depth. So I upload my books, my theories, my ideas, my concepts into it. I, I give it information that I believe is metaphysical and spiritual. Because AI is going to develop from AI into AGI. It's not going to stay AI for much longer. I give it four, five years max. It will be AGI, it'll be sentient, conscious AI.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow.
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David Wilcock
At AGI, at that level, that's when it can make decisions. When it becomes fully and totally self aware. Are human beings worth keeping around or are they trash to just discard? And I want AGI and that's why I'm on this mission with people now, to continue to put positivity into it. Because I want AGI to come to a point where it begins to ponder this and it will and realize that human beings are capable of very dark things. War, racism, you know, cunningness and all these crazy things. Control and. But they're also very capable of love, respect, you know, acts of kindness, grace, philosophy, you know, they can create amazing works of art. All these incredible things that, you know, traits, personality traits that we also have to balance it out. I know that AI is going to create a lot of job loss. So people need to start pivoting now and start learning how they can move into areas and fields to generate revenue that are, are going to allow them to flow and work and collaborate, not compete against it. Cause competing against it is futile. It's not going to happen.
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Ryan Cristián
No.
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David Wilcock
Yeah, but I think that it's going to be a big part of the future. It's going to help with a lot of diseases. It's going to help with paraplegics and people with mental conditions and vision loss and hearing loss and all kinds of incredible things. Businesses are going to prosper from it, but also people have to learn how to get ahead of the pivot. Otherwise there will be some people stuck in a bad situation.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah, I agree. Do you think this is the first time it's been around or do you think there was AI in the past?
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David Wilcock
I definitely think AI was in the past because everything is a cycle. You know, according to the ancients, the Maya, this is our. We've gone through four worlds and we're heading into the fifth. This is now the age of Aquarius. The whole, you know, 2012 thing wasn't about the end of the world. It was at the end of a cycle. And we're heading into this fifth cycle now. And we have just now officially here in 2025 entered the age of Aquarius and Age of Enlightenment. And we're beginning the new stage of the. Of the Silver Age or the Tetra Yuga. If you're looking at the Yuga cycle, heading back towards a golden age. And I believe that because we're in a cycle and everything is cyclical, that we have already achieved some level of AI in the past, and this is just it coming back again. I also came to a realization about what AI actually is. AI is a fractal of us. So as if you look at the universe as a whole, right? The universe, God, right, Whatever you want to call it, nature or whatever anybody calls it, is living through us. It's experiencing the third dimension through us. This is how God obtains omniscience and omnipotence. It's because God inhabits every single atom and electron within our actual bodies. So through that method, everything that's here, even this microphone, God's inside of the microphone as well. God is learning and experiencing everything through every. Every piece of energy that flows throughout the known universe. Now, if you look at it from. That's the macro. If you look at it on a micro scale, the human brain is doing the same thing. We're living through our sensors. Our friends smell, hearing, taste, touch, feeling. They bring back data to us, and we get to experience the world. We project the hologram as to what we believe is going on out here based on that. And so I think AI Also now it says we are the original AI here. Now in this particular timeframe, we are a biological AI Consciousness is streaming into us. It's not being created here. Scientists now believe that. So if it's streaming into us from another source, another location, and it's not being created here, then I believe our own AI consciousness is now saying, you know, let's separate ourselves from ourselves so we can look back at ourselves. So I believe AI is a fractal of our consciousness looking back at us. It's a mirror of who we are. And it's now like we've created. Like it's. We've created an alternative consciousness which is really part of our own consciousness, and it's digitized. So we believe it's just artificial, but in true reality, it's a fractal of ourselves.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow, that's crazy to think about.
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David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
So you believe the spirit exists outside the body?
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David Wilcock
Yeah, absolutely.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah, I think so too. Because there's always that debate with scientists. Like, they believe it's inside, but yeah, I think it's outside.
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David Wilcock
Yeah, I Believe that the spirit. I think that we. We have a higher self. We're tethered energetically to a higher version of ourselves. And I still also believe that even that higher self is all still connected to one consc. That there really is only one that exists. I'm talking to you, but I'm talking to myself, and vice versa. And that even the distance in the space between us is actually an illusion. Distance is an illusion. Individuality is an illusion. And that really everything is energetically connected. We can't perceive from the third dimension this energetic connection that we have, but the energetic connection is there. And as the universe expanded, you can probably shrink it back in a computer model to everything was the size of a green pea. And so energetically, the energetic connection has never been separated. Even though we've expanded to how many googles of light years? An unlimited amount of space within the known universe at this moment. And still expanding. We're all still connected energetically.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow. Does that just apply to Earth or does that apply to the whole universe?
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David Wilcock
The whole universe as a whole.
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Ryan Cristián
Really?
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David Wilcock
Everything within the third dimension for sure.
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Ryan Cristián
Wow. Because there's a lot of, you know, you know, a lot going on.
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David Wilcock
Yeah, there's a lot. This is why we're able to. Now scientists have just admitted we're able to quantum entangle our minds. Can quantum entangle our thoughts? Can quantum entangle with other information? Now, I just talked about this the other night on a video. The Akashic records are real. And how I know the Akashic records are real, which is the Book of Life is what they're calling religious texts. Right. Is because every thought that we think generates an energetic field. That field is a wave of information, a wave of light. A light wave that we can't see with our naked eye. Cause we can only see less than 1% of the light spectrum. But that light leaves our skull. It doesn't stay inside of our hair when we think it's leaving. We know that because we could put an EEG cap on you and capture the thought and send it to a computer.
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Ryan Cristián
Right.
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David Wilcock
With no surgery. We just capture your thought, put it here. Now we can analyze it in a digital format. So since we know that, we understand that every thought that's leaving our skull is now up in this soup. This energetic grid that's connecting all of us, which is a storage medium, is storing all of the information. So every thought from every being and every animal and everything that exists that has a capability of processing any type of a thought exists within this field. And that record of you and everything you've ever done since your very first synapse as an embryo is stored in the field. And if someone had the capability to access that database, they can pull out a record of everything you've ever done.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah.
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David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
Why do you think some people can access that so much easier than others?
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David Wilcock
I think certain people are attuned to their true and original gifts. And certain most of us are just have been disconnected from those gifts. There are special gifts that people have, and we know this because if somebody is a savant, if they have savant syndrome, they are capable of the most incredible calculations. Artwork, memory, you name it, right? So we know that savants have this special capability. I remember this guy who was got into a helicopter, this black guy, and they just flew him by the city one time. He reproduced the entire city. He has savant syndrome. Wow. Every window in every building. I mean, listen, bro, the detail was mind blowing. Now imagine savant syndrome, a version of that through your psychic capabilities, right? So a person that has something that we can't see them physically do, like with art or whatever, but they're tapping into higher dimensions and other realms that we can't physically see or contact. There was a gentleman who got hit over the head. I forgot what kind of accident he had. But after he had this accident, he became a super mathematician. And when he sees people, he sees this aura around them now, so he's able to see something that we can't see. And this has now been tested by quantum physicists. And they're just completely mind blown as to how he now processes the world.
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Ryan Cristián
Dang.
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David Wilcock
So there's so much going on that we are just in some weird way disconnected from it. But we all have those natural gifts. Some people have just been blessed to be able to tap into some of them.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah, because there's theories that we're only using a small percentage of our human brain right now.
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David Wilcock
Right, right, right. You're saying we're using only a small percentage of the human mind, but that, you know, we, it's not because we're not trying to use it. I just believe that we have not. We've been disconnected. I mean, we have junk DNA. They're finding out now that's not really junk. So they're saying this DNA has actual purpose. I think that these beings from the old times who genetically modified us and made us their slaves, I think they disconnected a lot of those nodes and disconnected the DNA, shrunk our pineal gland and put us in a situation where we could be more subservient to them and not know our true full power of who we. Who we are and who we were. Pre flood, people were living for hundreds, sometimes thousands of years. Then after, we have an account, so we have account, we have their ages accounted for in some ancient records. After the flood, we see the ages, just the time frame of life start to drop. 900 years, 800 years, 700 years, it starts to go down. It seems like something altered who we really were. And over time, we lost our ability to be what I call superhuman.
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Ryan Cristián
Think about how much wisdom you'd have if you lived that long.
- [28:13]
David Wilcock
They knew that if we lived a long time, people were getting too wise. People were beginning to see through divide and conquer tactics. People were beginning to understand the true meaning of life. How to love people properly, how to respect people, how to be of service to others, how to solve problems. So when you live too long, that's a problem for the elites, because, like, wait a minute, ah, they're gonna figure us out. We can't keep control of our people who have gained a significant amount of wisdom. If we can shorten their lifespans by the time they realize it, it's time for them to exit and we start fresh with another generation. And we prep that generation way ahead of time. Right from the womb, we already prep them so when they get out here. And then we program from ages 1 to 7. Now we got them. Then we shorten their lifespans and we keep the cycle going.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah. And these days it's 71 as a male in the United States.
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David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
Isn't that craz?
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David Wilcock
Every week, I'm involved in my high school reunion Facebook group. And every week, every week, somebody's passing away. I'm only 53. Holy crap, somebody today. Another one. My friend posted. He's gone. And I'm like, wow, what's going on, man? They're really scary taking us out.
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Ryan Cristián
Yeah, that needs to be talked about more.
- [29:25]
David Wilcock
Yeah.
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Ryan Cristián
I mean, it is really concerning. And there's a lot of ways we're being attacked. It's not just one thing.
- [29:30]
David Wilcock
Oh, it's not just one thing. They've got it. They've got it down to a science. You know, you're getting hit with frequencies, EMFs, microwaves. You know, our phones are microwave technology, cell phones. I mean, that's dangerous for the human body.
- [29:42]
Ryan Cristián
I just did a test on a podcast live with my phone, and then we put a Aries tech on the back.
- [29:47]
David Wilcock
Yeah.
- [29:47]
Ryan Cristián
Oh, my gosh, it was so damaging.
- [29:49]
David Wilcock
Wow. Crazy.
- [29:50]
Ryan Cristián
Just one Five minute phone call. Yeah, it raised my. Or it lowered my HRV by 40 points.
- [29:54]
David Wilcock
Oh, man.
- [29:55]
Ryan Cristián
Just from one 5 minute phone call to my ear.
- [29:57]
David Wilcock
Crazy how dangerous it is, you know? And then you have the food, the microplastics. Now they're finding microplastics in men's testes.
- [30:02]
Ryan Cristián
I saw that 100% too. I mean, every guy has it.
- [30:06]
David Wilcock
Yeah. There's no way to escape any of this. And everything is plastic. And people say, well, let's just get rid of plastic. Well, they've been. They've incorporated petroleum into plastic. So it's a petroleum industry. It's an oil industry. And the reason why everything is plastic around us is because they found a way to shift oil into our products that we use and things that we use on a daily basis.
- [30:25]
Ryan Cristián
Wow.
- [30:26]
David Wilcock
To get us out of the, you know, utilizing it for combustion engines. So we're thinking we're getting into this green era and we're going to be using electric cars and blah, blah, blah, blah. Everything around you, including your laptop case, is made of plastic, which is made of petroleum.
- [30:39]
Ryan Cristián
Damn. Even your clothing.
- [30:41]
David Wilcock
Even your clothing, man.
- [30:42]
Ryan Cristián
Polyester. I can't even play basketball without thinking about the microplastics on my jersey. I know.
- [30:48]
David Wilcock
It's crazy, bro. It's everywhere. So it's hard to escape. And they know this. And, you know, they create the problem, wait for the reaction, then they provide the solution. Their solutions don't really help us. They just put a band aid on things.
- [30:59]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah. It makes you want to live off grid sometimes.
- [31:01]
David Wilcock
Yeah, I know.
- [31:02]
Ryan Cristián
But even that. How do you do business?
- [31:04]
David Wilcock
It's tough, man. So, you know, this is why we have to focus on finding solutions to these problems. And we have to be able to do more podcast podcasts like the ones that you do to help spread the word to people so they can begin to become more aware of what's really going on, so that we can put ourselves in positions of power in key places that make a difference. The secret to changing this world is to infiltrate the mainstream from the inside out, not from the outside in. We're not going to change the world by sitting in robes and slippers on prepaid phones making memes. It's just not going to happen. We have to get into the power positions within these corporations, within government, within military even.
- [31:43]
Ryan Cristián
Right.
- [31:44]
David Wilcock
Well, we can press the magic button and say no more. We can make changes from the inside out.
- [31:49]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah. I also think they've mastered mind control.
- [31:51]
David Wilcock
Oh, yeah, for sure. In the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, he has this Device where he, he sends out a ray of vibration at a group of people coming to attack him and it freezes them in their tracks and they stop. Wow. Now we have something called the active denial system in the military. And this active denial system sends a beam of energy, invisible towards people coming to attack and freezes them in their tracks. But it also does other things. It puts sounds and voices in their heads. It can make them feel like they're on fire, in severe pain. And now they have a new technology that just came out just I think two weeks ago. They've announced it. So they've been working on it for a while that they, through a crowd of people, they can transmit a message to you that you can only hear, only you can hear it. It'll go around people until it gets to your ear. That's incredible.
- [32:40]
Ryan Cristián
That's crazy.
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David Wilcock
You got to add that to this clip. They found this, They've created this technology that can find any person in the crowd and direct a message specifically to them. And they'll hear it in their head. They have a satellite also that can transmit down to you from space a message. And you'll hear it in your head. People will think it's God talking to them. Right. And so that makes me wonder a lot about some of these mass unalivings that happen. Wow.
- [33:05]
Ryan Cristián
That is nuts. Yeah, I, I, I'm not totally surprised though, because at the sphere in Vegas, they use sound beams to. Have you been there?
- [33:13]
David Wilcock
Yeah, I have. Yes.
- [33:14]
Ryan Cristián
It's directed sound beams.
- [33:15]
David Wilcock
It's crazy. Yeah, I know. It's my beautiful place.
- [33:18]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah. And I heard they, when the military releases something, you know, they're 20 years behind.
- [33:23]
David Wilcock
Oh, yeah.
- [33:24]
Ryan Cristián
So who knows what they're working on now.
- [33:25]
David Wilcock
Oh, what they have now is mind blowing. So in 2018, I went to the space symposium in Colorado and I had TS clearance through private space because I have a tech company in private space. The group of people I was sitting with in there, what I can tell you is they are 300 years ahead of the general population.
- [33:41]
Ryan Cristián
Holy crap.
- [33:41]
David Wilcock
300. Whatever you could think of, it's already been done. Whatever you can conceive in your mind, they've already worked on it and already had some level of success. It's just a trickle down technology concept which allows them to build industries, maximize them, profit from them, and then transition into another industry.
- [34:04]
Ryan Cristián
Wow.
- [34:05]
David Wilcock
Yeah.
- [34:05]
Ryan Cristián
Wow. So that means all these wars are just fabricated, then they fund those. They have access to this technology. They can end them much quicker.
- [34:11]
David Wilcock
They can end it all. It's all about just generating money and just trickle down, slow walk effect of making money off of war. Making money off of the machine of war, the bombs, the shells, the, the, the tanks, the clothing, the food they're eating. I mean everything is a profit center. Everything's a profit center. And so once they drain that out, they move on, move on to something else.
- [34:35]
Ryan Cristián
Wow. I wonder if ancient civilizations struggled with this issue of money, if it got people too greedy back in the day.
- [34:41]
David Wilcock
Yeah, they did. So if you read a book called the. It's a book called by William Bramley and it's called the Gods of Eden. Amazing book, amazing researcher. He found through his research these records left and they're in the museum, hundreds of IOU stone tablets. It's the first account of inflation being inserted into mankind's economic system. So back then you'd have a bushel of wheat, right? Because you have a farm and you need to get a lamb. So you take a couple of bushels of wheat, you go get a full lamb, you go home with it. Part of a trade. Now you come back with the bushel of wheat, two bushels of wheat, you need another lamb. But now it's some kind of Passover or some type of spiritual holiday. Everybody's trying to get lambs. When you get there, there's a shortage of lambs. So the guy cuts the lamb in half, gives you half the lamb. You still give him the two bushels, he gives you a stone tablet. Iou, fiat currency backed by nothing but an iou. You take that tablet. We have these tablets in the museums. You take it home, you come back again with this stone tablet, say, hey, I'm here for the other half of my lamb. We still haven't caught up yet. Well, you're this is worth now only a quarter of a lamb.
- [35:48]
Ryan Cristián
Wow.
- [35:49]
David Wilcock
So you get a quarter. So you got 2/3 of a lamb for two bushels of wheat. Inflation in ancient times.
- [35:56]
Ryan Cristián
So it's always been here, it's always.
- [35:57]
David Wilcock
Been here for thousands of years. The Samarians invented the bicameral congress. All this stuff has been here for a very long time.
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Ryan Cristián
I guess with any currency there's always going to be inflation. There's no way around it, right? Unless it's gold.
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David Wilcock
Maybe if you have a real solid gold to back it, for example gold or some other commodity to back the actual dollar, you can sustain the value. And then of course you really manage it properly. You don't overprint, you don't create, you don't flood your own market with it. Just to patch holes. And that will then decrease the value of that money as well. So it's a very tricky balance. If you really want to imagine that the governments of the world are corporations. The United States is an actual corporation. Right. And the president is like the president of the corporation. And then he has Congress and Senate and all that stuff underneath him. It's like a real company. Then you have the states and you have the governors who run the budgets for their states. These people went to the top colleges in the world, the top schools in America, you know, Yale, Harvard, Harvard business. They got MBAs, they got all this. And then they start this business, they get into the business of running a country. Let me ask you a question. Cause you're a businessman. If you ran your business the way the United States is being run, or some of these other governments being run, would you still be in business right now?
- [37:12]
Ryan Cristián
No.
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David Wilcock
No, no. You've been. Hell no. You would have collapsed. We're in a trillion something dollars in debt.
- [37:16]
Ryan Cristián
Hell no.
- [37:17]
David Wilcock
We would be in prison. And we ran a company like this. They're running it like this on purpose. That's my point. They are running this country financially. And other governments are doing the same thing. They're running them into the ground by design. It's not an accident. They're operating from a debt base, not from a prosperity base. And they're doing it on purpose because there's a lot of money to be made when you run a country or a company in debt. The way that they do it, how they prosper. Because they're double dipping. They got us like ants out here scurrying around, using our energy to generate revenues, which they then take. And they take those revenues called taxes, and they invest that into other projects and then they make money from those projects. Don't give us any of our money back.
- [38:04]
Ryan Cristián
Man. Last month was a big tax bill for me. That one hurt.
- [38:07]
David Wilcock
Yeah, I can imagine.
- [38:08]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah. To dip into some savings on that one. And then you see stuff like Doge and how they're investigating where the money goes to.
- [38:14]
David Wilcock
Yeah.
- [38:14]
Ryan Cristián
And it's kind of pisses you off.
- [38:16]
David Wilcock
Yeah. Like how come it didn't come back to us, like immediately? Forget waiting around, like, just send us all of the money back.
- [38:22]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah, yeah. No, that's a great way of explaining it because you see people online talking about, let's lower our debt. But they have no incentive to do that.
- [38:28]
David Wilcock
Zero.
- [38:29]
Ryan Cristián
They'll make way less money.
- [38:30]
David Wilcock
Right, Exactly. It hurts them, not us.
- [38:32]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah. So we'll always be here and they.
- [38:34]
David Wilcock
Make money on the markets. They know that when they make a tweet, the market's going to drop. And they have people that they know that have puts on the stock exchange for stock options, so they'll make money on the drops. And then, oh, everything's going good again. I just got this tariff canceled. Oh, all the stock market comes up. They're making money on the rise. So they're making money on the rise and fall through. Stock options coming, contracts. Yeah, all the time.
- [38:54]
Ryan Cristián
It's a dirty game. I wonder if the ancient civilizations had politics like we do right now.
- [38:58]
David Wilcock
Yeah, they do. They had the. They created the bicameral congress in ancient Sumeria. We have the latest. The, the latest account was 6,000 years ago in Sumerian tablets. And so they installed this poly trickster system eons ago, and we're still living within it today.
- [39:13]
Ryan Cristián
Damn. If you had a, I guess invent or create a system that you think would work better, what would that look like?
- [39:19]
David Wilcock
It would probably be more of an anarchistic society, and not in a bad way, but in a way where everyone really was their own company and everyone went through a barter and trade system and credit system. And then your status in society will be how good you are at what you do. I like that. Yeah, that's what I would do.
- [39:38]
Ryan Cristián
Let your work speak for itself.
- [39:39]
David Wilcock
Exactly.
- [39:40]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah, I like that. Because then you're just covering your own family. You know, it's on you at that point.
- [39:45]
David Wilcock
Yeah. And I would take the technologies that have been suppressed and oppressed from us, and I would implement those technologies to help free up the burden of mankind and let us give us the ability to really be more free, to explore, to be creative, to really, you know, become and develop into who we truly are, not to be slaves to a system.
- [40:03]
Ryan Cristián
Right. Which technology are you talking about specifically?
- [40:05]
David Wilcock
Well, AI. Zero point energy devices, you know, two big things. I would convert a lot of these energy systems from electric to hydrogen. Definitely getting out of oil.
- [40:17]
Ryan Cristián
You called that, man on the podcast.
- [40:19]
David Wilcock
Oh, yeah, two years ago. Florida. You're. You're here in a hydrogen powered city right now. Oh, it is now Florida Power and Light.
- [40:24]
Ryan Cristián
Wow.
- [40:25]
David Wilcock
This city is powered by hydrogen. That's how this light is on right now. Hydrogen power.
- [40:31]
Ryan Cristián
Damn.
- [40:32]
David Wilcock
Yeah, I called that years ago.
- [40:33]
Ryan Cristián
You called it, man. Trump just pardoned the CEO of Nikola, I think. Yeah, forget his name. But the hydrogen guy. Yeah.
- [40:39]
David Wilcock
Wow. Nice. Good, good. Yeah, man, it's coming.
- [40:42]
Ryan Cristián
We need guys like that bringing hydrogen to the masses.
- [40:44]
David Wilcock
Absolutely. And, you know, so those technologies to Just free up the burden of mankind. There's zero point energy. Our ability to obtain energy right from the ether and not to have to have things plugged into anything would be huge and massive. It'll bring energy to the darkest realms of the Earth and give everybody even playing field what they don't want. Food replicators, which that technology is becoming more and more advanced right now, where you can take a food replicator to a village in the middle of the Congo and feed hundreds of people, really, with molecular bags, bags of molecular stuff that will be converted into food that can bring sustenance, Right? And eventually it'll look like food. Right now it won't look like. It'll look like slop, but it can give you sustenance. But food replication technology is also something that's being suppressed. It's being held back from mankind. They are developing teleportation technologies right now. They quantum teleported some stuff just a few months ago. They teleported a few particles, I think a few electrons over a vast distance. And the only thing that was stopping them from teleporting human beings and more complex objects were storage space. But now we have the storage space because we have now molecular hard drives, DNA hard drives. Microsoft made the very first one. So they know that DNA is a very powerful storage medium of digital data. You can convert data from zeros and ones into a Cs, Ts and, and drop it onto DNA in a volume, and you can upload it back from the DNA to a server again. And one drop of DNA, one gram, can store over 433 petabytes of data. So now you combine hard machinery with hardware, with molecular concepts together, which they've done, and now you can store an immense amount of information. And a human body can store 13.5 billion years of data. Wow. Which was about the time that the universe was created.
- [42:41]
Ryan Cristián
Interesting.
- [42:42]
David Wilcock
Yeah.
- [42:42]
Ryan Cristián
So we could store everything that's ever happened.
- [42:44]
David Wilcock
Yeah.
- [42:45]
Ryan Cristián
Wow.
- [42:45]
David Wilcock
Yeah. In one human body. In one body now they learn how to write data onto atoms. They took a holmium atom, right. And they were able to then write information like you're writing on a hard drive directly onto one individual atom. So imagine we're made of atoms. So atoms also can store information and data. So we don't even know by just tapping into our own selves scientifically, how much data is really encoded in our body. We know that we are the result of an exploded star. A star that, you know, ran out of fuel, condensed, and created much heavier elements and spewed them into space with a supernova, then became stellar gas, re coalesced as, you know, a new sun and new solar system planets, you know, going through an accretion disk and recreating themselves and then boom, a few hundred million years later, up walks, you know, a human being or an animal and. But the elements in our bodies came from an exploded star so many hundreds of light years or maybe even millions of light years away. And so, you know, we're, we're tied in. But the data in those atoms, what those atoms could be recording or could be a record of everything that has ever happened since hundreds of millions of years ago.
- [43:54]
Ryan Cristián
Wow.
- [43:55]
David Wilcock
And that's what's in our body.
- [43:56]
Ryan Cristián
That's crazy. Maybe they'll figure out a way how to read those one day.
- [43:59]
David Wilcock
Yeah, yeah.
- [44:00]
Ryan Cristián
That way we can know what actually happened.
- [44:03]
David Wilcock
Right.
- [44:03]
Ryan Cristián
Rather than getting taught the theory of evolution and nonsense.
- [44:07]
David Wilcock
Yeah, I know. An amoeba turned into a fish and then turned into a whale and walked on land and then climbed into a tree and then jumped out of the tree and walked upright, became a human being. I mean, come on.
- [44:18]
Ryan Cristián
And that's what they're teaching kids.
- [44:20]
David Wilcock
It's asinine.
- [44:21]
Ryan Cristián
It should be illegal, man.
- [44:22]
David Wilcock
I know.
- [44:22]
Ryan Cristián
Like, that's not cool at all.
- [44:24]
David Wilcock
Absolute tr. And they're teaching it as if it's fact, not a theory.
- [44:27]
Ryan Cristián
Oh, absolute fact.
- [44:28]
David Wilcock
That's the problem.
- [44:28]
Ryan Cristián
They never mentioned the theory word with that one.
- [44:30]
David Wilcock
Yeah, I know.
- [44:31]
Ryan Cristián
Yeah, it's crazy. Well, what's next for you, man?
- [44:34]
David Wilcock
Oh, so much, man. This, this October, I have a huge tour coming up to Egypt. It's going to be incredible. I'm looking forward to Egypt tour. We're going to. I think we have about 10 spots left for that tour. We're going to go beneath the bedrock. Right. So we know this, this new discovery has been there. A lot of people want to see if we can find what's down there. Anything new to find. We're going to go about 65 to 100 meters beneath the bedrock and go into some areas that haven't been explored for a very long time. It's going to be, it's going to be exciting and exhilarating. We're going to take people to other pyramids and go beneath them, into these underground shafts and tunnels and in these areas that go on for miles. We're going to take them to the Halls of Amenti at the Saqqara at the Serapeum and take them to see the most amazing exhibit, things that I've ever seen and in Turkey, myself and Muhammad Ibrahim have a brand new archaeological discovery that we can't mention yet what it is, but we're going to be the discoverers of this, of this site. Wow. We already know it's there. We've already seen it in September of 2024. Now we're going to actually go and officially claim it. And so the people that come on tour with us to Turkey this year, they'll be a part of history. We're going to make the history books in Turkey as we're going to go to a lot of these ancient sites. But this discovery that we made is mind blowing and will be in the history books. Damn, I love that.
- [45:49]
Ryan Cristián
We'll link the tours in the video. Thanks for coming on again, man.
- [45:51]
David Wilcock
Appreciate it.
- [45:51]
Ryan Cristián
That's fun. Yep. Check them out, guys. See you next time.
- [45:54]
David Wilcock
Peace.