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Biohacking 101: Reverse Aging & Boost Mental Clarity | Mark Gordon DSH #1158
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Unlock the secrets to reversing aging and achieving peak mental clarity with Digital Social Hour! Join Sean Kelly as he dives deep into the world of biohacking with health expert Mark Gordon. From the groundbreaking role of peptides in brain recovery...
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Mark Gordon
Chemistry in the brain, brain will, I mean the body will respond to this attack by this mold by generating an attack against it with pro inflammatory cytokines. Which is why we see a lot of psychiatric, psychological, functional problems in people who are exposed to mold.
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Host
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
It's a real, real.
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Host
All right guys, Mark Gordon here today. Got him in Vegas. Thanks for coming on, man.
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Mark Gordon
Hey, love it.
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Host
What's new in your world?
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Mark Gordon
Let's see. Besides my third daughter having a baby girl with a full head of hair, that makes me a little jealous because I'm losing mine. The kid's growing hers. Beyond that, nothing more than just doing the very best for our military in our work with traumatic brain injury and PTSD for them. Yeah, that's really the key. That's my heart and soul.
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Host
Right. Anything new progressing in that space?
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Mark Gordon
Well, with some of the peptides that we have, we can accelerate the healing of the brain. With some of the peptides. Ara290N, acetyl cyst, Cmax, cerebral lysin. Just to accelerate the process for them getting back in line to be back into life.
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Host
I love it. What's the deal with peptides? Because I saw some articles that they got banned in certain states.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, the FDA is banning it and some of the states in the internal pharmaceutical guidelines in every state stating that certain things can and cannot be made or cannot be imported. I mean in California where I am half the time and the half time I'm in Texas, I can't import our blended testosterone that's manufactured in Texas into California.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
They restrict it. So there are a lot of peptides that both from the FDA and from the state pharmaceutical boards are restricting peptides that have incredible benefits. People with Ms. Or people with Alzheimer's or dementia. Certain of these peptides can help regenerate the nervous system. One of them that I use a lot is CMax, which stimulates a chemical in the brain that actually tells the brain's cells to improve it's brain derived neurotrophic factor. Also as a side effect, it drops inflammation in the world that I work in with traumatic brain injury, it's the inflammation that causes a shutdown in a lot of the chemical processes in the brain. So if you have inflammation, it shuts off your brain's ability to tell the pituitary, the master gland, from making testosterone or making DHA or thyroid or you know, from the signal, the cascade for steroidogenesis.
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Host
That's crazy. I didn't know there was a link because a lot of people have low testosterone or Not.
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Mark Gordon
Oh, yeah. And this is a paper that I just came out with, which is a clomiphene paper which incorporates some of the key factors that are being missed. Two of the key factors that are being missed is this relationship between inflammation, shutting down hormone production. The article started coming out in 2013 and just built in the number of articles so they're substantiating each other. And then in 2018, out of Denmark of all places, came a group of articles or a article that started it that said that if we're using things like ibuprofen or naprosyn, which are called non steroidal anti inflammatory medication, we're probably one of the most commonly used anti inflammatory over the counter, 200 milligrams. But my military people get 800 milligrams. And what we found, or what was found in the literature in the research, is that it shuts down both in females and males. Their ability to respond to us from a signal in the brain called luteinizing hormone to turn on testosterone production in a female and a male.
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Guest 1
Whoa.
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Mark Gordon
So when a doctor or health care provider has an opportunity to do a blood test and find out that they're low testosterone, the knee jerk is usually to just put them onto testosterone instead of asking two questions. Have you had any head trauma that's the inflammatory? Or have you ever used ibuprofen and naprosyn or any of the nonsteroidal anti inflammatories? And they don't ask that. And therefore what happens is you jump ahead and assume that they're testosterone deficient because of what genetics? Because of age. But there's a causation. So everything that we do in our practice at the Millennium is based on looking at the foundational causes. Why does this happen? Why do people get depressed? And depression is not because your mother didn't suckle you or your Irish father didn't give you enough whiskey or whatever the situation might be. It really has to do with the biochemistry of the brain. And we know that when there's trauma or inflammation in the brain that a chemical is produced. They call it peroxynitrite. And what it does is it stops the enzymes that are responsible for making serotonin, which is the antidepressant, and also melatonin, which helps you sleep. So in the group of military that we see, they.
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Mark Gordon
Depression, they have insomnia and they have fatigue.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
And when you go look at their biomarker panel, we have a 28 point biomarker panel. What we find are the patterns suggesting that there's inflammation. How do we know inflammation shuts off luteinizing hormone production? So if there's no luteinizing hormone, why is that? Well, is it the pituitary dysfunction? You do an MRI of the pituitary and it looks normal. So what's Going on. It's the chemical signals that are invisible to X rays. There's no neuroradio graphic process or X ray that can be taken to the brain. Mri, ct, PET scan that can show inflammatory chemistry. It shows structure, it can show blood flow. You can put a nuclear tracer of, you know, nuclear tracer, radiograph, a radioisotope, hook it up, and you can see patterns of blood flow or distribution of certain chemicals.
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Guest 1
Right.
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Mark Gordon
But you can't see this inflammatory chemistry in the brain.
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Host
Interesting.
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Mark Gordon
That's what's missed.
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Guest 1
Yeah.
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Host
Will that inflammation go away over time? Naturally.
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Mark Gordon
Oh, great question. There are two forms of inflammation. Acute. Like, for instance, you get a cold, your cold, symptoms of irritability, light sensitivity, sound sensitivity, irritability, you know, stay away from me, leave me in my bed. Body aches and pains are all due to inflammation that is generated because of the viral process or bacterial. And after a couple of days, it starts waning, and you get better in a week or two. But there's a chronic phase where the inflammation that started never abates, never reduces. So what can cause that? In the people that we see in sports with chronic repetitive injury, or cte, what happens is there's always reoccurrence of the trauma to keep the process going for a long period of time. So the chronic state causes an increase, like a catch 22, an increase in the production of inflammatory chemical that leeches away at the brain, that starts destroying more areas of the brain because of the inflammation. So can you reverse that? Yes. You already experienced it, Right?
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Host
It's brain rescue. I'm feeling it.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, I'm feeling it. I always feel it. Yeah.
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Guest 1
Yeah.
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Mark Gordon
We've got about 10,000 people a day who are feeling it. And it's our core product for helping reduce the inflammation. It took 16 years to develop that. Before we released it, we did a study which is called the Marine 2020 study. Pilot study. Not pilot like airport, but, you know, baseline research or study where we took Marines from Camp Pendleton. They were sent to us by the surgeon. Marines who were getting ready to be medically discharged for problems from being in the front line all the time. The first recon group. And we put them onto this product every morning for 90 days. Every 30 days, they filled out a questionnaire with 18 questions on it. At the end of the 90 days, 65% of them were 50 to 100% better. People with migraines were better. People with anxiety were better. Depression had abated, libido had improved, their exercise tolerance had improved.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
And 90 days and some of them after that 90 day period they never reverted to where they were before because this has in it combination of anti inflammatory products like fish oil, dha, very important as an anti inflammatory in the brain. Quercetin, what else? Gamma to coffee, Vitamin E, G, Gamma, vitamin E, which is very special in the brain. N acetylcysteine, which went through testing with the government, did studies out of Wall to Read showing the benefit of N acyl cysteine, which is a natural product. That's the beauty. It's 100 natural.
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Host
That's why I like it. Yeah, I try to be as natural as possible.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, healthy. You don't want the aberrant chemistry in her body. You know, I did a presentation from an organization and the title of the article, the presentation, 17 minutes, was in search of the Prozac Gland. Where's your Prozac gland?
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Host
Couldn't tell you where's mine.
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Mark Gordon
Where's your bilified gland? Where's your Paxil gland? Or any of those medications? Where are the glands? There aren't any. So what they're doing is they're substituting in a pharmaceutical chemical to try and simulate something missing from the body as opposed to going and finding what it is that's missing from the body and trying to fix that. And it's usually not something quote unquote missing. It's the fact that the deficit is precipitated by the inflammatory cascade. I mean, I said I sound monotonal in terms of talking about inflammation because it's at the core of everything. Cancer, diabetes, cognitive impairment, als, multiple sclerosis, all inflammatory processes.
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Host
Wow. Yeah. I've heard BRCA say it's the root cause of all disease. Right. So if you had no inflammation in your body, is it possible to get sick?
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, it's still possible to get sick, but the point is how your body responds to that inflammation. So you get a virus, you got a healthy immune system because you're not taking in a lot of chemistry that suppresses like alcohol suppresses the immune. Immune system. You don't want to do that. Or you're taking a little bit of DHEA to boost the immune system or 7 keto DHA to boost or growth hormone. These are all known to improve the ability of the immune system to respond. So if you're under attack by a virus or bacteria, you, you want the inflammation. Inflammation has a role and that is to get rid of the attackers. So if it's bacteria, viruses, mold, or you know, poisons put into our body through injections.
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Host
That makes sense. Yeah. And when you work out, you get inflamed too, right?
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, you get inflamed when you do work out and, you know, the muscle activation generates a group of hormones from the muscle, you know. What's her name? Gabriella Lyon Lion. Yeah, Gabriella. Yeah, she took her class in tbi.
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Guest 1
Oh, really?
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. Smart gal.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Host
Yeah, she's right. She's been on the show.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah.
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Host
And you've, you've found the link with TBI and ptsd, which I've never heard of before.
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Mark Gordon
What ptsd?
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Host
Well, the linkage between them.
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Mark Gordon
Well, honestly, I get a lot of nasty looks at me when I say I don't believe in ptsd. And the reason why I don't believe in PTSD is because if you start looking at the history of everybody who's given the title of ptsd, you find they've all had a tbi. I mean, last year, last year, before I did a presentation for the Department of Health and Human Services in Texas, I sent an invitation out to 250 of our veterans who had been in our program for at least 12 months. And they had 72 hours to respond. 79 people responded, so that's random. And I separated them into two categories. The VA said that this group had pure TBI and this group had pure ptsd. And when I looked at the end results, because every month they fill out a questionnaire called the MPQ Monthly Program Questionnaire, which is 25 questions, subjective assessment, where they talk about psychological, physiological and physical functioning. And we monitor that and we put it into our database and we watch individuals, they go from zero being the lowest because they're affected by the traumas they had. And as they go through the course of our program, they get better. So they might get 50% better here, 30 there, 20, whatever, and 60%. So we score this and 65% of the people were 50 to 100% better.
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Host
Damn.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. Pretty crazy, pretty good. And 35% that did not get at least 50%. That was my focus. The question was why was it that they did not get better? And it's something called biological resiliency, which is a big term for lifestyle choices. So if you choose the wrong things, like you drink alcohol, you take drugs, certain medication that people are given have nasty side effects. You know, there are drugs out there like statins, which can cause irreversible type 2 diabetes.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. So if they're drinking adequate amount of water, good quality water, clean water, not toxic water, you know, there was A study that came out of California that said that it found 300 some odd different pharmaceutical drugs in the water even after it's gone through the, you know, the recommend Hyperion, which is the reclamation plant.
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Host
Crazy.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. And then sleep, hygiene, nutrition, are you eating well, the foods that you're eating, good for you. Are they inflammatory? Non inflammatory. And then my daughter Allison is a naturopathic doc. She does the neuroendocrinology on all our civilians, professional sports and so forth. She specializes in gut related issues and she brought to my attention over three years ago, four years ago. Now that if we don't assess the gut, you can miss a cause for inflammatory chemistry being generated in the gut that goes right into the brain.
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Guest 1
Whoa.
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Mark Gordon
And that's what happens if you have dysbiosis or you have gastritis, or there's a medication you're taking like you're taking aspirin or you're taking non steroidal anti inflammatories that can cause inflammation lining of the gut. It can lead to the release of these inflammatory chemicals because they're trying to protect the gut and it goes right into the brain and turns on the cells in the brain called microglia and they start dumping inflammatory cytokines. They call them pro inflammatory cytokines. And so all our treatment regimens are directed towards dropping these cascades of inflammation. And the reason why hormones like testosterone are so very important is we think of all the gender hormones, the sex hormones, the reproductive hormones, the testosterone, the estradiol, the protein, the progesterone, the pregnenolone. We think of them as sex hormones, but they're more than that. They're called pleiotropic, which means multi effects, multi layers of benefits. Pleomany. And it turns out that testosterone will shut off four of the worst inflammatory chemicals in the brain. Interleukin 1, 1 betas, tumor necrosis factor alpha and interleukin 6. And at the same time turn on the most anti inflammatory chemical in the brain called interleukin 10. So we need that. And then looking at estradiol, it has an array of things it does to lower inflammation in the brain. That's why when you see studies coming out, women who are deficient in estradiol have a 50% greater occurrence of Alzheimer's and cognitive impairment.
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Host
Dang.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. And there's also pregnenolone and allopregninol. And pregnenolone is what comes from cholesterol. Cholesterol right into pregnenolone, pregnenolone is called the mother of all hormones. So we need that mother of all hormones to become all the other hormones like dhea, testosterone, estrone, estradiol, cortisol. So if we have a breakdown in the conversion of cholesterol or not enough cholesterol to go to these hormones, you lose the hormones, you lose the protection in the brain. There's about 35 hormones in the brain called neurosteroids. And then below the neck, there's another group of neuroactive steroids that are produced by, you know, the glands, the endocrine glands throughout the body.
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Host
Dang, I didn't know there were steroids in our body.
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Mark Gordon
Oh, where else are they? I just heard a syringe.
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Host
That's the ones I heard of.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah.
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Host
And those are not good for you.
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Mark Gordon
Well, you know, everything appropriately done, you. You need to check the patient, see what it is that they're deficient in and do things to get their own body to generate it. September, October of this year, released after 15 years of collecting data. Took about 14 months to write the paper. It's the Clomiphen paper, which has Clomiphene and E. Clomiphen, which is a medication that fakes your control center. The hypothalamus think that it's deficient in estrogen. So what does it do? It releases a chemical that they call gonadotropic releasing hormone that goes to the pituitary and turns on fsh, follicle stimulating hormone, which generates the ova maturation in females, sperm production in males, and then luteinizing hormone, which goes to the female ovaries in the faal cells and turns on testosterone production, goes to the leydig cells in the testes and turns on the production of testosterone. So instead of giving testosterone injectable or topical or pellets or whatever, what we first tried to do is turn their system back on. And going into this in 2014, about, you know, I had this preconceived notion that if you're older, it won't work. I'll be 72. I was on injectable testosterone for 17 years, since 2015, the first year of after we started the three year veteran Clomid study to figure out what the ideal dosing is of Clomid. You pulse it, you don't give it every day. So we have people that are every 72 hours, every three days, taking one tablet, and it turns on the testosterone production in males. So we don't suppress our system from the hypothalamus to the pituitary to the gonads, male or female. What we do is we encourage the system to turn itself back on. So we have people who come into us with testosterone deficiency. We look at their trauma for the inflammatory component. We look at their skittles and vitamin M, which is the Motrin. Ibuprofen, their love term for these medications that they take tons of and it shuts off their testes ability to make testosterone. And so we put them onto the Clomid or the E. Clomid. We have over a thousand people on it and they're producing testosterone levels like kids.
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Host
That's incredible. Yeah, I'd rather do that than take a needle in my butt.
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Mark Gordon
And there are people who don't like the needle. And then there's at the recent biohacking, there's a doc there that or a company there that's developing an oral form of testosterone that has FDA approval for it, is my understanding, which will be revolutionary. But it's still a testosterone. So again, try to get the body to make its own hormone before you put something in that we know will shut down your own innate production of testosterone.
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Host
Right. Because after age 40 or 35, I think you drop 1% a year of testosterone.
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Mark Gordon
On average it's 40 in most people. But it can be accelerated. If you have ibuprofen, it can be accelerated the more traumas you have. So you can have sub concussive traumas like 50 caliber gunner or someone who's doing jiu jitsu and someone who's doing wrestling. You know, you don't have to have loss of consciousness. This is something that has been gaining more attention is repetitive head injury like cte, but sub concussive. And what sub concussive means compared to concussive is that in concussive, you know, you've had your bell rung because you're disoriented, nausea, vomiting, blurred vision. You might be lethargic, tired, you might, you know, be disoriented, amnesia. But in sub concussive, you don't have any of that. Never knock to the ground, never have any symptoms. But what happens is the inflammation cascade is turned on. And what happens is the more times you have that repetitive, that repeated injury, it adds to it. And at a certain point what'll happen is it'll break through its threshold and you'll have symptoms. Dang. Yeah. I had a sad case that I went to lecture about sub concussive where it was Sergeant Major in the Green Beret, Bruce Parkman had just lost his son, Mack Parkman who was a wrestler and a football player, and no one knew that he was going through anything, but he ended up taking his life. And the father and his son Mac had such a relationship that Bruce wanted to do something. So he put together this phenomenal organization, the Mack Parkman Foundation. He had some brilliant people come in to lecture on the subject of CT and so forth. And he had invited me at the. We met at the end, but he invited me to give a lecture. And it was about how the process occurs, how you go from the injury down the biochemical changes step by step, leading to why you become depressed, why you become anxious. So sub concussive is in a lot of school sports, you don't have to have lost consciousness. It's in wrestling, it's in hockey, it's in Lacroix.
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Host
Lacrosse, football probably too.
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Mark Gordon
Oh, football, field hockey. One of my daughters played field hockey. You know, depending upon if you've got a male playing in a female sport getting hit by a volleyball and, you know, on the head and knocked unconscious and in a coma, you know, you've got those kind of scenarios that happen. Heading a ball. I mean, the project that I have in England, UK and in Australia, New Zealand, they're starting to realize that hitting the ball is not a good thing.
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Host
In soccer. In soccer, yeah, that ball is pretty hard.
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Mark Gordon
And it's. We. I mean, it's perceived that, well, I'm just tapping the ball, it's not knocking me unconscious. It doesn't matter. It's still that little thing that you.
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Host
Get coming at a fast speed and most of the time too.
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Mark Gordon
I'd love to see what the force of impact is, the speed, the density and how it hits. There are, let's see, with the head trauma, there's the causation. We're now finding out it's called cellular mechanical transduction, which basically means in, in English is that the cells vibrate against each other. When they do, it'll cause a stimulation of the immune system that'll start dumping inflammatory chemistry.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
Starting the process. I've got engineers from the flight deck of carriers, or, you know, F14s, whatever the jet is that they're working with. And just from the rumble of the jet engine induces what they now call high decibel, loud, high decibel, low frequency, very deep. And that vibration is so intense. I mean, I know you've been to concerts where you're close to the base and you feel it in the body.
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Host
I hate it. I hate concerts. Yeah, yeah, I could see that though, because it's literally shaking your head, right?
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Mark Gordon
Correct.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
And it's the bass. You know, you've got groups like Metallica, you know, playing.
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Host
Yeah.
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Mark Gordon
Where it's very intense, Heavy, loud, super loud. Heavy metal.
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Host
Damn. So that's causing some brain stuff.
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Mark Gordon
So it causes the vibration, that cellular mechanical transduction. And that accounts for why people who say, you know, I've never had a head trauma, but you go through their history and you see certain things. They used to skateboard, they rode bicycles.
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Host
Right.
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Mark Gordon
They roller skated, ice skated. Who hasn't fallen learning how to bicycle ride? Who hasn't fallen learning how to walk? And these are all the things that happen before 5 years of age that are totally out of sight, out of mind. But it's important. Low forcep delivery or, you know, difficult delivery, emergency C section. These all can predispose you having surgery can predispose you to head trauma because you're on anesthesia, blood flow is altered because you want to keep the surgical area dry. So what they do is they lower your blood pressure so you don't squirt, you know, blood squirt. And these things, I believe, really influence the brain. And talking with some of my anesthesiologists who do cardiology, they said, yeah, we lowered the blood pressure to here. And, you know, oxygen, they pump in a lot of oxygen. But I believe that surgery has. Creates a problem.
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Host
I could see that. I had a tbi, actually. I had no idea how I got it. I got a scan at Dr. Amen clinics, and I had one.
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Mark Gordon
And so you had his spec scan?
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Host
Yeah, yeah. And then my mom had a really long surgery when she was in college, open heart surgery. And she said her brain never felt the same after that.
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Mark Gordon
Right. Robin Williams was in the orb operating room for 13 hours for correcting a couple of cardiovascular conditions. Subsequently, he ends up committing suicide.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
Well, what we know is that cortisol goes up, cortisol alters a lot of chemistry in the brain, and you lose thyroid hormone. Well, it turns out that thyroid has more literature of its relationship to depression and suicide than testosterone or any of the other hormones. So he was deficient. And it's not really deficiency of testosterone, excuse me, of thyroid, but it's the fact that cortisol under stress, surgical stress, will cause the functional thyroid hormone called T3 to be converted from T4 to T3 to reverse T3, which is a form of thyroid hormone which is inactive. So you have a lot of inactive when you should have a lot of active. And with a low level of T3. Functional T3, it increases depression. Get depression, metabolic changes as well.
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Host
Wow, I didn't know he had that procedure.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, I'm actually half hours.
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Host
That's long. I'm scared to get knocked out for my, my wisdom teeth removal because I don't know if I'm gonna wake up and my brain's not the same.
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Mark Gordon
Well, we have people who have sinus. Our veterans who are doing great on our program, getting better, they go and have sinus surgery, and for three months, they're back to square one.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
And that's because when you cut the tissue, it releases those inflammatory cytokines. When you have your wisdom's teeth taken out, you get a lot of cytokines being released because you're traumatizing the skin, the tissue. And the immune system kicks in because some of the chemistry, cellular materials that are released into the circulation, that are absorbed through the lymphatic system will turn on your immune system. And the immune system says, I'm here to fight. Let's dump, you know, these pro inflammatory cytokines. Oh, we don't care that it goes into the brain and causes them to get depressed, insomniac, irritable. Yeah, it's all related. Yeah. I've got. My family's a lot of dentists.
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Host
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the movement towards biological dentistry that's happening now.
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Mark Gordon
I like that.
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Host
I'm a fan of that.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. The removal of the heavy metals, and this is talking about heavy metals like mercury and lead that we in the population of veterans that came to us from Fort Bragg in North Carolina, a lot of them had a very unique pattern of testosterone deficiency. They had very high amount of dhea, which is a precursor to testosterone, but very low level of free testosterone. How can you have high amount of dhea, which should metabolize into testosterone and slow. Well, it turns out that lead and mercury would cause a block, an enzymatic block, so they can't convert the DHEA to testosterone. So where are they getting the mercury and the lead? Well, they're in close quarter combat training. They're in the kill house, and they're being exposed to mercuric chloride, which comes off the primer, and lead, which is from the round that goes through their muzzle of their, you know, whatever they're.
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Host
Shooting, they're inhaling the.
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Mark Gordon
And so what happens is it generates a plume of mercury and lead gas vapor, and they're inhaling it. So now you see a lot of the guys, while you have for a couple of years they're wearing masks when they're in there to protect them. And one of the sergeant majors I worked with in Bragg, he would show me his lab results. You know, his lab results would show high levels of mercury and lead.
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Guest 1
Jeez.
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Mark Gordon
And when he got finished with doing, you know, either a deployment or working in improving his skills in the kill houses.
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Host
That's crazy.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. So people, children who are exposed to lead, you know, either from a mercury, mercury thermometer or environmental paint or just bad location with high heavy metal toxicity.
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Host
Yeah.
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Mark Gordon
Will create a problem. Molds, Black mold, Aspergillus nigrans. Very bad. People go into a house and some people are sensitive to it. It's concentration related. And they'll generate inflammatory chemistry in the brain. Brain will. I mean, the body will respond to this attack by this mold by generating an attack against it with pro inflammatory cytokines. Which is why we see a lot of psychiatric, psychological, functional problems in people who are exposed to molds.
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Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
It's a real, real issue.
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Host
They just found some black mold in my sauna at Lifetime. Your sauna at Lifetime?
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Guest 1
The gym?
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Mark Gordon
Yeah.
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Guest 1
Yeah.
- [32:32]
Host
They found it underneath the wood.
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Mark Gordon
Now one of the areas that we're totally missing in water dispensers.
- [32:39]
Host
Water dispensers.
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Mark Gordon
Water dispensers. Like in your refrigerator? Yeah, like in, you know, I'm not going to say the name of the water company, but you know, in their, you know, five gallon.
- [32:51]
Host
Yeah.
- [32:51]
Mark Gordon
Tanks that sit in a device that gets cold or hot, you need to check it, you need to have it cleaned.
- [32:57]
Host
I gotta clean mine out. I got one at home.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, so you should. I think they're talking about monthly that you go through a process with the vinegar.
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Guest 1
Okay.
- [33:04]
Host
Yeah, I need to definitely do that. I haven't cleaned it once.
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Mark Gordon
Vinegar or, you know, if you don't like scotch. Yeah.
- [33:09]
Host
I don't use the fridge one because tap water. But I. I got the 5 gallon glass one at home.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. And everything that I do, I put into glass all our leftover foods and anything that we do is. Goes in the glass. I grow pomegranates, which have some incredible technology. I mean, chemistry in it, polyphenols and so forth. Then Mark Hyman just did a. I think it was Instagram where he was talking about there's a chemical in pomegranates that when it gets the gut to the bacteria in the gut, it gets converted into a chemical that is like anti aging.
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Guest 1
Wow.
- [33:43]
Mark Gordon
That it's anti cancer and so forth. But the polyphenols and pomegranates are just phenomenal. So I have three pomegranate trees, and I make a pomegranate wine. It's so good.
- [33:54]
Host
Sounds amazing.
- [33:55]
Mark Gordon
It's great. You know, I mix it with a little Tito's, let it sit with Tito's, and you just make it so that you can't taste the Tito's. You just take the. Taste the palms pomegranate. And so people go and they drink. They say it's so good. And they drink two or three of them. They start getting bombed from it.
- [34:11]
Host
Dang.
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Mark Gordon
So I tell them, only one.
- [34:14]
Host
I got a pomegranate tree. I struck out this year. It's really hot in Vegas.
- [34:17]
Mark Gordon
Yeah.
- [34:17]
Host
All mine dried out or bugs got inside of them.
- [34:20]
Mark Gordon
Oh, yeah, that's terrible. You have. I grow the Persian pomegranates. They're the blood red ones.
- [34:25]
Guest 1
Ooh.
- [34:25]
Mark Gordon
And they're really juicy and sweet. Tartan sweet.
- [34:28]
Host
Sounds good.
- [34:29]
Mark Gordon
Really?
- [34:30]
Host
Out here, they're dry. They don't get as big as the ones you're growing, I bet.
- [34:33]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, there's about 15ft. They're bushes. They're not really trees.
- [34:37]
Host
Oh, I have a tree.
- [34:39]
Mark Gordon
So you have a single stalk on it. Single. I don't know. Yeah.
- [34:43]
Host
Maybe it is a bush, then.
- [34:44]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, they're technically bushes. And so every year what I do is I cut back because there's like 15, 20 of these bush branches coming out of that. Nice. Yeah, but it's. It's good Meyer lemons. So I make lemon cello. Yeah. I love it, man.
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Host
When you were in Japan, were you measuring your. Your heavy metal levels with all the sushi out there?
- [35:05]
Mark Gordon
No. In fact, I stopped eating sushi. And it wasn't because of the heavy metals and the mercury from the large fish. It was really because. Freaked out on parasites. Same. I mean, I was at Loyola and doing my undergraduate in biology, molecular chemistry. And I was brought in to be teaching the PA for parasitology. So I had to look at all these slides and know all these bugs freaked me out. I stopped eating pigs, stopped eating, you know, sea shellfish. I stopped eating a lot of things. And people says, oh, you're Jewish. That's why you do it. I said, no, I'm a scientist, and I'm looking at all these contaminants and the. You want, you know, this tapeworm in your body that can draw, that can grow 45ft long, you know, so you have a little tail out there because it's from mouth all the way to you. Yeah. You look at it and it just freaked me out.
- [36:02]
Host
I used to love oysters and sushi.
- [36:03]
Mark Gordon
Yeah.
- [36:03]
Host
I had to cut back.
- [36:04]
Mark Gordon
Don't do that.
- [36:05]
Host
I used to go to the sushi buffet. All you can eat. Yeah.
- [36:07]
Mark Gordon
Oh, here. They got tons of it.
- [36:09]
Host
Yeah. In Vegas.
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Guest 1
Oh, man.
- [36:10]
Host
But yeah, I do a parasite cleanse twice a year.
- [36:12]
Mark Gordon
And what do you use for that?
- [36:13]
Host
Just an all natural company. Miss Rogers Hood Apothecary.
- [36:17]
Mark Gordon
Okay.
- [36:17]
Host
Yeah, there's a ton of them.
- [36:19]
Mark Gordon
Yeah. What I do is I use ivermectin for 12 by 12, seven days, which is every 12 hours. 12 milligrams for seven days. And the reason is all the literature that's coming out about ivermectin as an anti cancer. I just had a 76 year old veteran who was diagnosed with prostate cancer. It's called The Gleason score 7. There's 1 through 10, 10 being the worst. And he read something about ivermectin and all these cancers, which the information has been out there for a long time. It's just we haven't been allowed to see it.
- [36:53]
Host
Well, the media attacked that drug.
- [36:55]
Mark Gordon
Exactly, exactly. So what Ray did was he went on 12 milligrams a day for eight weeks. And then at 12 weeks, he had a PET scan done of his prostate. They couldn't find any cancer.
- [37:08]
Guest 1
Whoa.
- [37:09]
Mark Gordon
Yeah.
- [37:09]
Host
And it was in the literature.
- [37:10]
Mark Gordon
You start looking in the literature. There was a orthomolecular, came out with orthomol. Molecular magazine came out with a discussion on ivermectin, bendazole and bendazole in treating cancers. And there are articles talking about how ivermectin helps to improve chemotherapeutics ability to kill cancers. But I was reading the ones about what they call. It's a misnomer, it's called cancer precursor stem cells, which are the early conversion of. Of cells, natural cells. They mutate into potential cancer cells. So they found that they're very susceptible to ivermectin in low dose. So what I do is 12 milligrams twice a day, every 12 hours for seven days. And I do that every quarter.
- [38:01]
Guest 1
Wow.
- [38:01]
Mark Gordon
And so if I've got any, you know, parasites, maybe that'll help a little bit.
- [38:05]
Host
Definitely will.
- [38:06]
Mark Gordon
Yeah.
- [38:06]
Host
Yeah, I remember the media villainized that one.
- [38:08]
Mark Gordon
Oh, yeah.
- [38:09]
Guest 1
Holy crap.
- [38:10]
Mark Gordon
Absolutely. And when Rogan went and he got canceled, that was just shout out to.
- [38:16]
Host
Spotify for supporting him. Because that was a big deal. Yeah, it was a lot of pressure. Are you on, Are you taking any stem cells? You look great for 72 by the.
- [38:24]
Mark Gordon
Way, no, I don't do any stem cells. You can stimulate your own stem cells as well as you can stimulate. You know, in this biohacking world that we're in. Yeah, you can stimulate stem cells with cocoa. There's been a number of studies showing that if you take two cups of cocoa. Cocoa. Real cocoa. No, not Hershey's. Okay, real cocoa. And what happens is it increases your stem cell release from bone marrow. I use certain peptides that help with functioning. I mean, I was supposed to have back surgery. I have a compression of L4.5 and I went into a orthopedic peptide that we've been working with since 2019. And the effect was the inflammation drop. And when you have a nerve that's inflamed, that's where it sends the signal of pain as well as it causes dysfunction. So you can't move your leg or something. I had 12 weeks where I could barely walk. And I woke up one morning after 10 weeks of being on peptides, three peptides and no pain, nothing.
- [39:31]
Guest 1
Holy crap.
- [39:31]
Mark Gordon
I had to cancel the surgery.
- [39:33]
Host
Yeah, holy crap.
- [39:34]
Mark Gordon
I had to cancel the surgery. And we have right now about 120 plus veterans who have orthopedic disabilities by the VA. No longer have it.
- [39:45]
Host
That's incredible.
- [39:46]
Mark Gordon
No longer have it. And I've got 39 year old Chad who had fusion of L4, L5 S1, three levels of spine, front and back fusion. And he's in the hospital and day after day, day one, he's up walking.
- [40:03]
Host
That's insane.
- [40:04]
Mark Gordon
Day two, no narcotics. Day three, he's, you know, they're looking at him like, you can go home. Day four, post op, his surgeon said he's back to 95% of expected recovery.
- [40:17]
Guest 1
Wow.
- [40:18]
Mark Gordon
Day four. And what I really like about the surgeon is that he asked Chad the following question. What are you doing? We have a lot of patients who accelerate and you see the chart of recovery. They're accelerating through it because of the peptides and the treatment that they're on. There've been a number of articles talking about people going for orthopedic surgeries that if they're low in testosterone, they're in the hospital longer and their recovery takes longer. But if they have optimal levels of testosterone, they recover a lot faster. And that's because there are about four things that improve the recovery of muscles. Vitamin D, vitamin D, chromium, DHEA and dht. Dihydrotestosterone, the active metabolite, testosterone. How they all work is by improving the ability of Sugar to get into the myocytes, into the muscle cells through a transport system that they refer to as gluc4. So those four things help this gluc4 receptor to work more efficiently at bringing sugar into the muscle cells to make glycogen, which is the fuel so you can get better recovery, better growth, and better endurance if you've got more of glycogen in the cell. So it can use the energy to do the work that it needs. So keeping a good balance on muscle, on these hormones. And I know Gabrielle talked a lot about that. Yeah, that's her focus. These are some of the issues that help to improve it. So we can all biohack ourselves by making sure our levels of hormones, regardless of age. You know, we've got people that are women that are in their 70s or 80s. Why do I need to have, you know, testosterone, good levels of estrogen? Because they work in the brain, they work in the body, help protect the bones, help protect the heart. You know, and one of the things that really irks me is that the medical communities out there that says, oh, woman doesn't need any hormone replacement until she's symptomatic. So I thought on it for a tenth of a second. I said, okay, so you want to wait until she gets Alzheimer's before you start treating her so she doesn't get Alzheimer's?
- [42:41]
Host
Well, that's western medicine in general.
- [42:42]
Mark Gordon
Right.
- [42:43]
Host
They wait till your blood levels are at certain points.
- [42:45]
Mark Gordon
That's right. We're illness medicine based.
- [42:48]
Host
Right.
- [42:48]
Mark Gordon
And thank God for biohacking and preventive medicine. We want to be in there doing everything we can. And the only way, you know, is not wait until you're sick to do the blood work but you're healthy. Let's see where you're at. Let's do a baseline and then we'll go and do a baseline every year. Now, in our practice, most of our people leave the practice within a year to 18 months. This is our goal because we don't want to keep them in an illness mental state or perception. You fix the inflammation. As we talked about chronic and acute. You take the chronic away, push it into acute, take care of the acute, they get better. They don't need anything, they leave the practice. But some of them stay on things like the, the brain rescue, and they stay on a multivitamin to get their supplements. One of the things that we're doing to ourselves is not replacing the minerals, our daily mineral needs that we're diluting out of our system and pissing out with drinking tons of water that has what minerals in it?
- [43:56]
Host
Fluoride.
- [43:57]
Mark Gordon
Hopefully no longer. With all the lawsuits that are finally recognized as being. Yeah, fluoride is not good. But, you know, we don't get the magnesium, molybdenum, the chromium, the copper into our system. And every one of those has a very important role to play. We've reversed 39 cases of type 2 diabetes with chromium polynicotinate, DHEA with vitamin D and getting their DHT, their testosterone. Because why is it that in the endocrine world, the endocrinologists that take care of diabetic patients, why do they tell them to exercise? Well, if you exercise, Gabrielle probably shared it with you. It increases the sugar in the circulation going into the muscles, because the muscles don't need the insulin like all the other cells do. Okay. So you transfer the sugar from the blood into the tissues so they can use it. In diabetes, there's a form of low blood sugar that occurs in the cell. The sugar is high in the circulation, but because the insulin isn't working efficiently, or this gluc4 receptor isn't working efficiently, you can't get it into the cell. So the cell starves. So what happens to the cell? Starts generating inflammatory chemistry, reactive oxygen species that create damage to lining of the arteries. You look at diabetics. Why did they get heart disease two to three times faster than the average person? Because the inflammation creates the stickiness of the blood vessels. Calcium lays down atherosclerosis, atheromas, and it causes narrowing. You get a heart attack.
- [45:33]
Guest 1
Wow.
- [45:34]
Mark Gordon
So you can, you can improve that.
- [45:35]
Guest 1
Yeah.
- [45:36]
Host
When you were in China for 10 years, what were you seeing? What was the health like over there?
- [45:42]
Mark Gordon
Smoked like crazy. You've been there, right?
- [45:45]
Guest 1
Yeah.
- [45:46]
Mark Gordon
Aren't they all terrible? Yeah. Smoking. So the work that I was doing in China from 2000, see, it was 2006, no, 2006 until 2014. I quit the program I was with. Just didn't like what was going on. Was bringing western technology to an eastern medical. Eastern. So I was working in Southeast Asian Thailand mostly. And we had Chinese doctors coming in. In 2005, I was invited through a 4M by the Ministry of Health in China to go and train a thousand docs in China. So the A4M project we had in 2005, 2006, was in Thailand. So I got picked up to go to China to help the guy who owns Red Bull in China, second wealthiest guy in China, help establish a medical center in Beijing. And it was just Difficult working with them. I went and lectured for the stem Cell Society there we shared information, the benefits of growth hormone and cultures of stem cells. On one of the stem cells, mesoderm stem cells. And they were showing some of their research where they were reversing diabetes by using stem cells because it affected the quality of the pancreatic cells.
- [47:17]
Host
Right, That's a big deal over there because the white rice, right?
- [47:20]
Mark Gordon
Oh yeah, yeah. You eat a lot of white rice?
- [47:22]
Host
No, my grandfather did and he had.
- [47:24]
Mark Gordon
Diabetes, so yeah, that's what they say. I eat Kyle Rose every now and then.
- [47:29]
Host
What is that?
- [47:30]
Mark Gordon
It's a sticky rice, like the Japanese sticky rice.
- [47:34]
Host
Oh, is that the one with the seaweed wrapped over it?
- [47:36]
Mark Gordon
Uh, you can do it with seaweed.
- [47:37]
Host
Okay.
- [47:38]
Mark Gordon
You know, you do it with or without seaweed. Sticky rice. I like purple rice. In Thailand I've had purple rice. Purple rice, yeah. But I don't eat very much. I try to stay, you know.
- [47:49]
Host
Yeah, I keep the carbs low these days. Try to, you know.
- [47:51]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, you look it.
- [47:52]
Host
Yeah, well I have the mth FR gene break too, so.
- [47:56]
Mark Gordon
Gotcha.
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Guest 1
Most of the.
- [47:57]
Mark Gordon
In all our products there are methyl tetra, they're methylated B vitamins.
- [48:02]
Host
Oh, nice. Yeah, because I can't take most multivitamins.
- [48:05]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, well the fact that you just took B1, B2, B5, B6 and B12 in that, see how you respond. You said you felt great. Yeah. You feel great. Alert, bright eyed and bushy tailed.
- [48:21]
Host
Yep. Yeah, I'm ready to go.
- [48:22]
Mark Gordon
And it lasts eight to 12 hours.
- [48:24]
Guest 1
Wow.
- [48:24]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, eight to 12. I had one of my buddies, a PhD at Pepperdine in and astrophysics and physics, he took it within five minutes. It's working. He couldn't go to sleep. He was up for like 18 hours.
- [48:35]
Host
It's like an Adderall.
- [48:36]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, hopefully not.
- [48:38]
Host
Yeah, natural Adderall.
- [48:39]
Mark Gordon
A natural Adderall, Yeah. One of the issues with, since you brought up Adderall, things like Provigil, New Vigil, Adderall, Ritalin, Silert, they really mess the chemistry up in the brain. So you've got people who have add, if you will. There's a research out there showing that if you have add, check the testosterone because the area of the brain, the amygdala, is a startle center, a hyper center. And if it's inflamed or not enough testosterone to keep it calm, you can run into problems of add, adhd. So we have people that go on to one of our products. It's called clear mind and Energy. We had a gal, let's see, she was on 20 milligrams of Adderall every day for five years.
- [49:25]
Host
Damn.
- [49:26]
Mark Gordon
She was in Chicago. And our doc in Chicago is Alicia Polzak, who's been with us since 2010. She put her onto our natural product, Clear Minded Energy, which is, as it states, clear mind and energy. So the energy component is Guarana, which is a natural product. And what happened was in two weeks she's off her Adderall. Didn't go back on her Adderall.
- [49:49]
Guest 1
Wow.
- [49:49]
Mark Gordon
Yeah. And we have people with ADD ADHD that are on it. I have a veteran who's been with us for about a year, did very well. His son gets meningitis and ends up in the hospital. He's two years of age and gets out of the hospital and they notice that he's not maturing, progressing, failure to progress. So he didn't call me. He went and put him onto one of our products called Brain Rescue 1, which is for adolescents and younger people. This one is for adults, but we have some adults who get too energized from the three, so they use the one. So he gave his son a half a packet of this Brain Rescue one, and within two weeks, his failure to his mood, his attitude all came back to normal.
- [50:39]
Guest 1
Incredible.
- [50:39]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, so it was quite impressive. We've had Lyme's disease, ebv, Epstein Barr virus syndrome, Myel nucleosis, Epstein Barr virus, encephalitis, equine encephalitis from a vaccine someone got military going to Japan, had to get the equine encephalitis vaccine, ended up getting the condition, losing his sight.
- [51:04]
Host
Holy crap.
- [51:05]
Mark Gordon
Legally blind. Yeah, it was disastrous. But anyways, he's doing better. He's doing.
- [51:10]
Host
That's good.
- [51:11]
Mark Gordon
Well, in a short period of time, his mood and so forth from the chronic inflammation.
- [51:15]
Host
I've been sleeping on these peptides, man. Damn.
- [51:17]
Mark Gordon
Which one?
- [51:17]
Host
I've been sleeping on peptides in general. I haven't tried any yet, but it sounds like they're really effective for all this stuff.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah, you know, I sleep my best on growth hormone and you can use IGF1, LR3, which is, you know, the active growth hormone produced in the brain, goes to liver, turns on nine proteins, IGF1 being one of them. Yeah, and IGF1 is the one that helps with production of my muscle actin. Mycin also drops inflammation in the brain. It's phenomenal insulin like growth factor, in fact, in helping people with type 3 diabetes.
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Host
Have you heard that term That's Alzheimer's, right?
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Mark Gordon
That's Alzheimer's. So what happens just in the middle of a paper on this is that with the inflammation that occurs in Alzheimer's because the beta amyloid and the tau protein, the hyperphospholization of tau protein, it creates inflammation that actually damages growth hormone production. Well, why is growth hormone needed in the brain? Well it turns out that IGF1, insulin like growth factor, it functions like insulin to get sugar into the nerves. So when you lose the ability to transport sugar into neurons, the neurons starve and die. And that's why they're calling it type 3 diabetes. So what happens is what is affected by, by the beta amyloid, which is the key protein produced, not the, but not the only one, but is part of that whole cascade of beta amyloid and tau protein, NFTs, neurofibril tangles. The inflammation shuts off the ability of the gluc 4 receptors to work. So you're not only missing this signal for it to work, but you're missing the mechanism, the transport system is not working. So the way that we've helped our Alzheimer's patients and dementia patients is by reversing that, getting them on things that drop the inflammation and also stimulating their growth hormone production. You know, the Dynatropin is just one of the natural products that works on five pathways in the brain to increase growth hormone. How do we know it works? Do a blood test before and after and you see the rise in IGF1 and growth hormone levels and binding protein 3. So we've been able to improve upon the dementia in patients. We have a 95 year old, he's a Vietnam, a Korean war vet. He's referred to me by his son who's Middle east special Forces, They're a great team out of Florida. And he called me, he says, can you do anything for dementia? Sure. So I sent him a kit of these things. Seventy days later, the son Kerry calls me, says my dad's almost better from his dementia.
- [54:01]
Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
He said, okay, let's get on a Skype. We got on a Skype. I'm interviewing him, putting him through some challenge tests. Turns out he was a PhD in adolescent development, child and adolescent. We had a beautiful half an hour, 40 minute conversation.
- [54:14]
Guest 1
Wow.
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Mark Gordon
And at 90 days his son sends me a video of his, of his father talking, telling what had happened to him. And it looked pretty good. And then at 180 days they send me another video of him on some television program being interviewed for running, running a mile every Morning and exercising three times a week in the gym. And he says, the commentator, the host says, and this 94 year old gentleman, he says, excuse me, let me correct you, next week I'll be 95. So after seeing that, I called him up and we had a like hour and 10 minute conversation about.
- [54:52]
Host
I love that just from this, the.
- [54:54]
Mark Gordon
Brain rescue and a protocol that we have called the phase two protocol. Phase two protocol adds to a dhea, pregnenolone and vitamin D because they work at lowering the inflammation and improving nerve functioning. Okay, wow. So it's called the phase two protocol. It's on the website tbihelpnow.org under the science, where it has all the components, how to do it and lays it out. We have about 7,000 people out of our 10,000 that are not seeing me, but they're accessing the products for phase two protocol.
- [55:32]
Host
Nice.
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Mark Gordon
Yeah. And since the paper on the Marines was released which talks about that and how they responded and in every one of the 18 areas that they responded that we questioned and how they respond is indicated in there. And then it breaks out each of the components and it's a couple hundred articles, references in it and it talks about how each one of the products works. PQQ, CoQ10, DHA, Quercetin and so forth. Because I like people to understand that before they take something, this is what it does. And here's the science showing it as opposed to a product being released to the market. And says, this will help you with abcd, Right? Where's the proof? Where's the proof? And that's why it took 16 years of clinical app, clinical trials for this product to come out. And the last straw that allowed me to feel comfortable in releasing it was a study with the Marines. They were the final people to say, hey, stuff works, I love it. And you just felt it?
- [56:30]
Host
I felt it within five, ten minutes.
- [56:31]
Mark Gordon
Yeah, that's. That's quick.
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Guest 1
Crazy.
- [56:33]
Mark Gordon
That's quick.
- [56:34]
Host
Have you seen anything affect autism, Asperger's?
- [56:38]
Mark Gordon
It's not an area that I delve into, but there are people using, you know, fatty acids to help with that. Inflammation helps. Plasma, you know, plasma pheresis, total body plasmapheresis, helping to remove some of the inflammatory chemistry. Whether you believe what the mainstream is saying out there is that vaccines do not cause autism, removing that equation. What makes sense to me is if you do things to the body that starts a fire in the brain, it's going to damage systems in the brain. Right. Regardless of how that fire is started, whether it's a vaccine or alcohol or poor lifestyle or exposure to toxic environmental toxins, PBAs, XYZs, whatever's in the roundup, the chemicals that are in there, it has to have an effect. And that's what we're learning. The effects that it's happening. And it's not just, oh, it can't happen. Let's look and see the potential that. And they're starting to say that vaccines do have a relationship.
- [57:49]
Host
Right. Well, you can make a study appear how you want it in certain ways.
- [57:52]
Mark Gordon
Yeah. And, you know, in all the papers that we have, I put the raw data. I let the reader, oh, wow. Do the math.
- [58:00]
Host
That's cool.
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Mark Gordon
You know, so we've got 100 people, and they're asked a question, and 50% of them or 30% of them say yes. You'll see. Out of 100 people, 30%. 30 people out of 100 said yes. That's 30%. So it's not manipulated to give a favorable number.
- [58:19]
Host
I like that because I feel like a lot of these studies have some sort of manipulation, you know, so I'm not a fan of that. And you look at who's funding it, you're like, okay, that's weird.
- [58:28]
Mark Gordon
That's the first thing I go to in all the articles that I read. I go look and see if they've been funded.
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Guest 1
Right.
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Mark Gordon
And who's been the funder.
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Host
Yep, absolutely.
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Mark Gordon
That's conflict of interest.
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Host
Yeah. Well, Mark, it's been fun. I can't wait to do this again with you one day. Where can people find the product and learn more about you?
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Mark Gordon
You know, what I do is I don't send them to our Shopify store, which is millenniumhealth store.com I send them to the educational one, TBI helpnow.org so that you have an opportunity to read in English how these products help. And the studies that we have done over the years, As I said, 16 years for Brain Rescue 3 to come to fruition, it has three components. The first one went through the SEALs in Virginia beach, then the medics in Fort Campbell, Kentucky. And then the last phase of it, the Brain Rescue 3, with the Marines and 1st Recon Group in Camp Pendleton. And it was only after each one of those steps proving that the product was. Did the work that it was claimed to do, did we start.
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Host
Incredible.
- [59:32]
Mark Gordon
So, yeah, it's about reputation.
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Host
Yeah. Thank you for taking that time. There's a lot of health brands start in, like, two months.
- [59:39]
Mark Gordon
You know, our shortest one is three years. Our new mushroom.
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Host
I love it.
- [59:44]
Mark Gordon
Coming out.
- [59:45]
Host
We'll talk about that on the next episode.
- [59:46]
Mark Gordon
Absolutely.
- [59:47]
Host
Thanks for watching, guys.
- [59:48]
Mark Gordon
Thank you.
- [59:49]
Host
See you next time.
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