Blaire White : Epstein’s Victims BREAK the Silence | DSH #1546

Summary

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Digital Social Hour: Blaire White – Epstein’s Victims BREAK the Silence | DSH #1546

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Blaire White
Date: September 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this provocative episode, Sean Kelly welcomes controversial commentator Blaire White for an unfiltered discussion diving deep into topics typically shunned by mainstream media. The conversation ranges from Blaire’s interview with an Epstein survivor, broader issues of elite exploitation and government secrets, to her own political ambitions and views on cultural, religious, and gender controversies. Blaire shares firsthand insights about the suppression of victim narratives, media manipulation, blackmail in politics, U.S. foreign policy, and her journey from trans activist to right-wing political contestant.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Blackout & Epstein’s Victims

• Media priorities: Blaire calls out mainstream outlets for publicizing her moving to California while ignoring her exclusive interview with Epstein survivor Juliet Bryant, underlining a media blackout on the topic.

  “Why isn’t that – not one mainstream article about that – but me mentioning I’m moving… it’s a story everywhere. But I talk to an Epstein survivor, and there’s a blackout.” (02:08, Blaire)

• Beyond just sex trafficking: Blaire reveals that, according to survivor interviews, exploitation extended to forced egg harvesting and bizarre experiences, such as alleged UFO sightings on the island. She argues that these details make victims seem less credible, compounding public disbelief and media avoidance.

  “A lot of the billionaires involved … were doing stuff with technology, with human trafficking to take women’s eggs. That’s what a lot of the victims say.” (02:55, Blaire)

• Victim suppression and payouts: Juliet Bryant is said to have received a $2 million payout for her silence, indicating powerful interests at play (04:08).

2. Government, Blackmail, and Global Elites

• Collusion & secrets: Blaire suggests Epstein’s operation was more than just sex trafficking, involving blackmail, government secrets, and clandestine technology—tying in intelligence communities (CIA, Mossad, MI6, KGB).

  “Epstein was not just a Mossad operation. It was MI6, KGB, CIA… all of these intelligence agencies kind of operate as their own country at this point.” (15:58–16:34, Blaire)

• Occult & ritual abuse: She references claims of ritualistic and occult abuse among the elite, mentioning CIA projects like MK Ultra and MK Often.

  “MK Often … the CIA infiltrated witch covens and occult groups, Thelemic groups, and did rituals on citizens.” (16:50, Blaire)

• Political implications: Blaire, a longtime Republican and Trump voter, expresses disillusionment at the revelation that presidents and political figures across the spectrum may be implicated, asserting the issue transcends partisanship.

  “If Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are on there, it's all of us. We're all kind of screwed.” (07:14, Blaire)

3. Personal Reflections & Running for Office

• Moving to California: Blaire discusses her contentious decision to move back to California as a Republican to lay the groundwork for a political campaign—facing misrepresentations from both liberals and conservatives.

  “There’s this mentality … that California should just burn and let them fall … but they’re Americans too.” (21:40, Blaire)

• Hate and doxxing: She opens up about severe backlash, doxxing, and online harassment—especially from the left—highlighting the risks involved in public political commentary and activism.

  “I open my phone and it's just a stream of leftists being like, ‘Shoot yourself in the head.’” (55:04, Blaire)

4. Fraught Issues: Trump, Israel, and Partisanship

• Mixed feelings on Trump: Blaire admires some Trump achievements (border, animal cruelty law) yet grades him low for his handling of Epstein revelations and Israel policy, suggesting presidential blackmail is likely.

  “I would say he's looking at like a D. But that's because of how egregious the Epstein stuff is and the Israel stuff.” (08:19, Blaire)

• U.S. support for Israel: She’s critical of unconditional U.S. support for Israel and draws parallels to propaganda around Islam and vulnerability to manipulation through trauma.

  “America’s a Christian country…we shouldn't be killing in general. No, we shouldn't be bombing countries, we shouldn't be bombing Muslims.” (00:58, Blaire)

• Dual citizenship in government: Blaire and Sean’s mutual surprise at dual citizenship eligibility in U.S. government (e.g., Israel ties) raises concerns about foreign allegiance (15:01).

5. Culture Wars: Sex, Gender, and Community

• Trans rights and activism: Blaire remains critical of the mainstream trans movement, denouncing child transitions and public funding for surgeries, affirming that “gender dysphoria” is a mental health condition.

  “You don’t have a right to sterilize children … The idea that a child would be going through what I went through when I transitioned is diabolical.” (26:27, Blaire)

• Resentment and collectivism: She decries collectivist thinking both in trans advocacy and pro-Israel activism, warning that treating any group as beyond criticism breeds resentment (12:34).
• Being an individual first: Blaire identifies as an American and Christian above trans identity, emphasizing personal agency over groupthink and challenging both right and left uniformity (29:12, Blaire).

6. Spiritual & Religious Perspectives

• Manipulation via trauma: Blaire connects societal trauma (e.g., 9/11, Covid) with heightened public suggestibility and elite manipulation, referencing research on MK Ultra and mass compliance.

  “What they know about trauma … when trauma occurs, suggestibility skyrockets.” (33:59, Blaire)

• Personal Christianity: She articulates a personal, non-institutional approach to faith, skeptical of organized religion due to its history of corruption and manipulation at the highest levels.

  “My belief in God is a personal relationship with God… and it doesn’t involve what anybody else practices.” (46:11, Blaire)

• Esoteric religions: There are claims about the elite practicing hidden, esoteric forms of Christianity, Judaism (Kabbalah), and Islam, unknown to most followers.

  “If you know Kabbalah, you're basically a master psychologist… In esoteric Christianity, that’d be Gnosticism, in Islam, Sufism.” (44:31–45:19)

7. War, Foreign Policy, and Manufactured Consensus

• Anti-war stance: Blaire vocally opposes U.S. foreign interventions, doubting the government’s pretexts for war and the real motivations beneath—citing propaganda techniques post-9/11 and weapons of mass destruction as classic examples.

  “They never actually give us the real reasons we go to war. So how can I consent to something I don’t even know?” (36:04, Blaire)

• Elite manipulation: She ties cycles of collective trauma and misinformation to the perpetuation of elite interests, warning listeners to remain vigilant and skeptical.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments With Timestamps

• On victim suppression and hypocrisy:

  “It’s people … just claim to [care]. It’s the drama and the political implications people care about, not really the people themselves.” (24:00, Blaire)

• On dual citizenship in government:

  “So you can be a citizen of two countries and be a senator? Really?” (15:03, Blaire)

• On why she’s running for office in California:

  “I'd rather be part of the solution than just bitch about it.” (21:40, Blaire)

• On being trans and conservative:

  “People act like that’s so… crazy. But I care about the border, my taxes, foreign policy… a million other things other than trans.” (57:40, Blaire)

• On gaslighting anti-war voices:

  “They called us panic-ins if we were freaking out about Trump siding with Israel and bombing Iran—as if the bombing of people isn’t something to panic about.” (35:27, Blaire)

• On trauma and suggestibility:

  “They do traumatize us collectively … when trauma occurs, suggestibility skyrockets.” (33:59, Blaire)

• On esoteric versions of religion practiced by elites:

  “There's a version of Christianity the elites practice that you don’t … esoteric is Kabbalah… can be used as a tool for extreme psychological manipulation.” (44:31–44:43, Blaire)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Epstein survivor discussion & media silence: 02:08 – 04:21
• Elites, blackmail, and occult abuse: 15:58 – 18:05
• Political campaign, party backlash & doxxing: 21:40 – 22:13, 55:04 – 56:01
• Trump, Israel, and bipartisan corruption: 07:05 – 08:19
• Conversation on child transitions and activism: 25:38 – 27:22
• Collectivism & criticism within communities: 12:34 – 13:31, 54:32
• Mass trauma, manipulation, and MK Ultra: 33:59 – 34:36
• Religious manipulation & esoteric teachings: 44:31 – 46:11
• Anti-war position & media programming: 35:27 – 37:37
• Faith, Christianity, and individual study: 46:52 – 48:32

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Conclusion

This episode is a whirlwind tour through deeply hidden and controversial social currents with Blaire White as an unfiltered guide. Key themes include the elite’s abuse of power, victim silencing, the dangers of groupthink, the politics of gender and identity, and the need for empathy, skepticism, and independent thought. Blaire lays bare the ugliness of institutional corruption but balances it with personal stories of resilience, faith, and hope for genuine change—from protecting children to calling for spiritual rebirth and new political leadership.

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For more from Blaire White:

• YouTube & The Blaire White Project
• @MsBlaireWhite on X (formerly Twitter)

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Transcript

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[Blair White]

Experian America is a Christian country, for better or for worse. We shouldn't be killing in general. And it sounds so simple and basic, but like, no, we shouldn't be bombing countries, we shouldn't be bombing Muslims. All that propaganda that, you know, heightens the danger of Islam and mitigates the danger of. I'm just. That's wearing off on me, you know, I was born into the anti Muslim propaganda climate, you know.

[Interviewer]

Okay, guys, got Blair White on the show. She's trying to vacation in Vegas, but she's been busy.

[Blair White]

Yeah, I landed and it was Google alerts with these articles talking about moving back, me moving back to California and people just making it, all kinds of things. It's not people saying I'm switching back to being like a liberal or something, but I'm actually running for office in California. That's like the goal.

[Interviewer]

Nice.

[Blair White]

And so I want to move back and lay the foundation for that as a Republican. So, you know, people make stories about what they want.

[Interviewer]

How did the outlets know you were moving back?

[Blair White]

I literally mentioned it offhand in a clip video from my podcast.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

Like in the middle of like an hour long piece of content. And of course, what's crappy about that is, you know, also this week I interviewed an Epstein survivor.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

So it's like, why isn't that not one mainstream article about that but me mentioning I'm moving? And it's like Daily Mail, New York Post, et cetera. It's like the story is I talk to an absolute survivor, but, you know, there's a big blackout on the facts about that right now.

[Interviewer]

Crazy. How brave are you for doing that? I think you're the first person to ever do that. Right?

[Blair White]

Not ever. But it's definitely strange how it is this taboo thing to talk to them. And I think it's partly because their stories are so quote, unquote out there. You know, I think a lot of people have a misconception about Epstein, that it was just about sex trafficking, which was obviously a big part of the operation. But the more and more I look into it, what gets really scary is that just seems almost like a. A thing to do while you're on the island doing other stuff. So it's. A lot of the billionaires involved, Bill Gates, that were doing stuff with technology, with human trafficking to take, like people's eggs, women's eggs. That's like. A lot of the victims say that.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

And so obviously the story is just the sex trafficking aspect, but that was almost like a party favor for these disgusting monsters that were partaking in it. They had other business going on there. So Juliet Bryant, who I talked to, talked about having her eggs taken. She also talked about seeing a ufo. And, you know, I know you're not averse to those topics. I seem to talk about all the out there stuff. And I mean, Area 51 is down the road.

[Interviewer]

It just got caught on fire a few weeks ago.

[Blair White]

Did it really?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, they're saying they were trying to burn some evidence or something.

[Blair White]

I'm sure.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I mean, to all that.

[Blair White]

Yeah, the underground bases, all that. And, you know, it maybe doesn't make sense to people how she'd be talking about sex trafficking in one hand and UFOs in the next, but it's a secret location with billionaires who have access to. You don't even know what. So I believe her. She saw a ufo. I believe her.

[Interviewer]

They really keep that survivor list hidden because I was trying to look it up and try to get some podcast guests and you can't find anything.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Who survived that?

[Blair White]

Yeah, I'll. I'll send your info to her. And I know she'd be down to do it. She lives in Africa. I don't know if you do remote ones, but I mean, she's like kind of only safe in Africa. But, you know, she got paid. She got paid out $2 million to shut up, basically.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And so if she's lying, why should he paid out some million, you know, What?

[Interviewer]

I mean, damn.

[Blair White]

Yeah. How's JP Morgan and the Epstein foundation or whatever that. That did that for trafficking.

[Interviewer]

So how shocked were you after that interview, what she was saying?

[Blair White]

You know, I'm really into the esoteric side of things. I'm really into what you're not supposed to talk about. I do a lot of independent research and I don't actually talk about that all the time on my channel because I, I try to lead people there slowly.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Blair White]

That just the reality of things. And I know people aren't ready. So I wasn't shocked personally. A lot of my audience was. But it is what it is. Clearly the normal, like Republican, Democrat, like matrix discourse doesn't work. Like we have to start talking about the bigger things and hidden technology and all of that because it's all in the same wheelhouse.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. That stuff's coming to light though. Anna Paulina Luna is starting to speak up a little bit about that type of thing too.

[Blair White]

She's one of the only people right now that I have, you know, any kind of faith left in, in the administration, which is sad. I'm a three time Trump voter.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

And I've only voted Republican my adult life. I'm 31. But. And Trump has done a lot of amazing things. And so nothing is to discredit the fact that he did clean up the border. The border is the best it's been since I've been alive. But it's kind of that one thing. It's like, but you're covering up for child sex droppers. Like there's no. I feel like anything positive he does will come with the caveat of he closed the border, but he covered up for child sex droppers. But the reality is, like we were saying, it's not just that it's military technology, it's government secrets, multiple governments.

[Interviewer]

You know, there must be a good reason. I can't imagine it'd be something trivial. Right.

[Blair White]

I think there's lots of good reasons, unfortunately. So, but, but, but I'm of the opinion burn it all down. If, if society is being propped up right now on these types of crimes, if that's the only thing keeping, you know, the dollar going and then, and the planet spinning, then let's start over because it's, it's. I don't know. I'm a very spiritual person as well, so I know that if we don't make it right, God will on whatever timeline. So I would rather it be us than, than see what happens if we don't. Because you can't you can't get around the kid thing. You just can't. No. No one can accept that. Even the most die hard Trump supporters. No.

[Interviewer]

That's like the one thing you can't come back from, the pedo stuff.

[Blair White]

No, no. And in healthy societies should be judged by or how healthy a society is. One of the barometers is how much are you willing to protect the innocent. And that's children, that's animals, that's women, that's everybody. And if we don't live up to that, I don't like that.

[Interviewer]

And I know you're very outspoken on this topic and you're getting a lot of hate for it. Right.

[Blair White]

On social media, maybe not necessarily for the Epstein stuff, just because there is like, you know, a lot of unity right now in the country over that. And some of it's fake because the Democrats didn't even utter that word, Epstein, until this month when they knew it would hurt Trump disproportionately. But the reality is we know Bill Clinton's on there. We don't know for sure Trump is. We know he's implicated in something he's ashamed of. But we're looking at both sides here with politicians and potentially presidents on that list. So there is something kind of like sick and beautiful about like, we're kind of all in the same boat right now. But I do kind of look down on people right now who are making it partisan because it's really not, you know, if Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are on there, it's all of us. We're all kind of screwed.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Or Elon said he was on there. I mean, crazy.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And looking back, I remember seeing that and being like, oh, he's lost it. You know, is this academy? What's his black eye like? Who's making him say this? And he was vindicated pretty quickly here.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You know, he might have been right.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And we don't know for sure, but that'd be a good reason to release it so we can know for sure.

[Interviewer]

That's nuts. So where would you rank Trump so far in a second term? Like a. Through folks.

[Blair White]

You know, it's difficult because in the moment it's all about the Epstein stuff. And I have a lot of like, justified emotion about it. And so I don't want to like disregard everything positive. You know, I mean, he made animal cruelty a felony. That was cool. He's closed the border. He, I guess it's, it's, it's hard to tell right now. I would say he's looking at like a D. Damn. But that's because of how egregious the Epstein stuff is and the Israel stuff. You know, we definitely have a president who's blackmailed, and I think we've had probably a president who's blackmailed by Israel since jfk, everyone.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

And do I know that for sure? No. Would I put potentially a lot of money on it? Yeah. I mean, there has to be some reason why. I mean, here's the thing. Obviously Jewish people are different than the state of Israel, and I do not like the fact that it's conflated. And I know that there are obviously a lot of people who practice in Israel. It's the only real, like, majority country. But it's not the same thing. It doesn't make you hateful to be like, I don't want to bomb countries on their behalf, you know, and on a bigger scale, it's like, America is a Christian country for better or for worse. We shouldn't be killing in general. And it sounds so simple and basic, but like, no, we shouldn't be bombing countries. We shouldn't be bombing Muslims. All that propaganda that, you know, heightens the danger of Islam and mitigates the danger of. I'm just. That's wearing off on me. You know, I was born into the anti Muslim propaganda climate. You know, I. I saw 911 when I was in third grade, watched it on TV and. So you're born after 9 11, right?

[Interviewer]

I'm born in 97, so I don't remember it.

[Blair White]

Okay. Yeah, but you were born. Yeah. Okay. You know, then. Then you know that there has been a lot of propaganda around Muslims ever since. And it's not that Islam is anything I want, you know, codified into law in my own country. It's not that I would ever practice Islam. I am a Christian and I disagree with all of it, basically. But the idea that they're responsible for every sin in the world geopolitically and Israel is responsible for nothing, those two things can't really work for me. And I'm seeing a lot of people fall into that camp. People who can stub their toe and it's the fault, and then people who could get punched in the face by and be like, people have never done anything wrong. Both of those are irrational. The truth is somewhere in the middle and we have to get there somehow.

[Interviewer]

We have to. Yeah, that seemed. Every time on Twitter I see that come up. The Israel antisemitism stuff, it's everywhere and it's sad. The tri. Light From Therassage is no joke. Medical grade red and near infrared light with three frequencies per light. Deep healing, real results and totally portable. It's legit photo bio modulation tech in a flexible on body panel. This is the Trilite from Therassage and it's next level red light therapy. It's got 118 high powered polychromatic lights, each delivering three three healing frequencies. Red and near infrared from 580 to 980 nanometers. It's sleek, portable and honestly I don't.

[Blair White]

Go anywhere without it because I've met many people who have been good friends of mine and I'm friends with people right now, you know, and so I hate that they're getting trapped into a box of. If you criticize the actions of a country for which everyone seems so comfortable, criticizing everything America does. Right. We deport an illegal immigrant and we're Nazi Germany.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Blair White]

But the shit that goes on in Israel. Can I swear I hear.

[Interviewer]

I'm sorry.

[Blair White]

Okay. It's just never any admission that there could be any wrongdoing. And that to me it, it can't stand. It doesn't stand to reason, doesn't stand to, to goodness, truth, logic, nothing. All humans are flawed. There's no such thing as chosen people in my opinion. You know, I, I believe Jesus came and that's our Messiah. We're not waiting for another one. We're not picking out the red heifer to make their, the new Messiah come. Mine's already come. And so I don't believe that God sees anybody higher than anybody. And so that's how I know I don't hate people, no matter what people try to say. Especially because I've never really even thought much about them in general until the last couple years. I think a lot of people haven't.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Blair White]

But it's, there's a reckoning that needs to happen. And I think it's a mistake for people to dig their heels in and consider in Israel to be completely non critiqueable because it builds resentment. And you know, I've seen it on the microcosm of other groups. Right. So like I'm trans and I see how the trans community has this line of thinking where you have to support every single thing they do, every single thing that they fight for politically. And if you don't, it means you hate them, it means you don't want them to exist. This is the same arguments that you hear about Israel and people. And I've seen firsthand that that irrational line of thinking has Led to a lot of resentment around trans people. And it's happening people right now. And so, you know, people might be like, how do you conflate trans? I'm not. I'm conflating the process by which, if you consider yourself to have, you know, your shit doesn't stink, people start to sniff even harder and they find it right. So that's where I'm at with it.

[Interviewer]

Makes sense. What do you think of the Nelk boys Netanyahu interview? Did you watch the full thing?

[Blair White]

I didn't watch the full thing. I don't think it was as bad as people were making it out to be. But I think people's emotions are really heightened right now. I do think that they were overall responsible. I would consider it a D, but not an F, because they did ask, like, what do you have to say about the accusations of you starving children? It's not as if they didn't press at all. But you can't just let him get away with saying no. You have to have enough of a knowledge base to push back on that and ask a follow up. So it justifiably made people angry because, you know, the more people are seeing about what's going on in Gaza and in the Middle east in general, people are becoming offended. Sounds like such a trivial word, but it's accurate. It's like, we're offended by murder. We're offended by children dying. We're offended by the pain and the torture of these human beings. Everyone's a human being. And I especially believe that as a Christian.

[Interviewer]

So.

[Blair White]

Do I consider, you know, Muslims compatible with the society I want to live in or my religion? No. Do I believe that they deserve to be, you know, hit with the type of attacks they're being hit with right now because of Israel and my country paying for it and my country helping? Absolutely not.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, we're paying a lot. We're sending them a lot of dough.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And, you know, it's. Sometimes I'm like angry at myself. Like, how is it ever so gullible? Because how did I not even know until pretty recently, embarrassingly, that you could even have dual citizenship and dual citizenship and work in government here? Like, I didn't know that.

[Interviewer]

Actually didn't know that.

[Blair White]

Right. Like, so you can be a citizen of two countries and be, be a senator, really? Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So you could be a Chinese citizen, which is considered an enemy, or maybe even Russia or is there specific countries that are banned from that?

[Blair White]

It would probably go down to, like, if it's an enemy country Obviously. So maybe not China. I have to look into that. But Israel is an ally and I guess you can just be a citizen of both. And that's why you see so many people who we elect to office. You know, Was it Ted Cruz who interview with Tucker. Yeah. Got destroyed saying that the thing that made him run for office was to support Israel.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

For that to be the first thing you say you're running for office in America to support Israel. I don't feel comfortable with anyone, you know, being an officer that has a loyalty to. To another country first. You can have loyalties to other countries. We have allies and we should support them. But you say that first. It's just. It's just bizarre.

[Interviewer]

Israel has a lot of influence, it seems like, especially with apac and it's.

[Blair White]

And it's disproportionate, but it's through blackmail and other things. Right. Like we collaborate with them on the secret technology we were talking about. A lot of that is. Is both countries and it's all, you know, it's a web. Because a lot of people just to address the. Like could stub your toe and it's, you know, sort of thinking people who blame them for everything. Unfortunately, the reality is a bit darker because Epstein was not just a Mossad operation. It was MI6, it was KGB, it was CIA. But unfortunately, there's an argument to be made that all of these intelligence agencies kind of operate as their own country at this point. They're definitely above the rules. I mean, you look at since the beginning, MKULTRA experiments, putting drugs in the water, in schools for children to come down with diseases, just to see what would happen, you know. MK Often people don't know about that.

[Interviewer]

What's that one?

[Blair White]

That is where the CIA actually went and infiltrated witch covens and occult groups, thelemic groups, and basically did rituals on citizens.

[Interviewer]

Whoa.

[Blair White]

And you know, we live in a. In a mostly sort of secular atheistic country. And even a lot of people who are Christian or religious by name kind of stop at believing in anything evil, which I think is delusional, because if good. If good exists, evil does too. And our government has partaken in a lot of evil. And some of it goes right down to spiritual truths and literal witches. And you don't have to believe in being a witch. You don't have to believe in. Know the occult and in certain groups, but they have their beliefs and they're around. And unfortunately a lot of them are in power. So like it's too many victims of the Epstein stuff to take it to that. That talk about occult aspects being part of what happened. Talk about ritualistic abuse, not just sexual abuse. People tune that out probably because it's too hard to hear sometimes too.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

And you don't know what to think about the word. Like what is that even word. But you know, as someone who knows quite a bit about that, for better or for worse, through my research and other things, that's real and that's out there.

[Interviewer]

There's some evil out there. I'm sure you've interviewed some people in that realm too. Right.

[Blair White]

This last one was really the first one. But you know, it's not hard information to find. And like I said, the government has literally on record infiltrated these groups and operated.

[Interviewer]

So that's crazy. That's scary because you go to these groups like open minded. Right. And then you don't even know they're infiltrate.

[Blair White]

Right, Right. And I do question like at what point does it become sketchy to really question how many people are embedded in normal society that are agents of different countries? And I think that it's probably a lot more than we would like to think.

[Interviewer]

That's scary.

[Blair White]

Especially in the, you know, political commentary world. Not naming names or anything. But it's been really scary. I've been doing it for almost 10 years.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

So I've seen a lot. And I never knew until pretty recently how many people are like bought and paid for by other countries and really are intel agents. Whether it's for CIA or Mossad or. But I feel like every other month now I'm hearing like this person who's with this.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

With. With evidence. Or I'm. Or I'm seeing it or I'm. You know, it's. It's like is everything just fake? Like is everything fake? Everyone's. Has ulterior motives. I don't know. But it's scary.

[Interviewer]

I feel like we're just being pulled in so many directions. Right. And that's intentional. They're like planting different messages and conspiracies. You don't know what to believe.

[Blair White]

Right. It's really, you know, not to make a pun, an Alex Jones moment, but it's really an infowar. There's a battle over what information you can have and then even your understanding of it. So like the UFO topic, you know, we won't go too much on that I guess. But like that's a really good example. There's so many different psyops around that topic. You know, there's. It's reptilians It's Nordics, it's just an advanced humans, different breakaway civilization. It's demons, it's angels. I tend to believe that it's some sort of spiritual reality because, you know, one thing about aerospace is you start researching the connections to the occults. Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, heads of NASA, Wernher Von Braun, all of them were heavily involved in the occults. And so you kind of can't research it without coming across aerospace stuff. And what is that? That's UFOs, that's rockets. That's space travel. So it all sounds very schizophrenic to people who have never researched it, but it's there if you look for it.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that's nuts. You mentioned blackmail earlier. So you said you're running for office in Cali and nobody has shit on me.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I was just gonna ask. Do you worry about blackmail?

[Blair White]

Like, I don't leave the house. This is like my first vacation here in Vegas, and I'm not even really vacationing. I've had three boyfriends in life, never committed a crime, never been in jail, never did a hard drug, so.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Only three boyfriends your whole life.

[Blair White]

Yeah, they've all been super long term, though.

[Interviewer]

Well done. Yeah, I don't think they'll be able to pay any of those guys off then.

[Blair White]

Maybe it's a lie, I guess, but I've never done anything really, like, wrong like that.

[Interviewer]

Well, they did that to Tate. I don't know if you saw that, but one of the girls got exposed for getting 100 grand.

[Blair White]

Oh, wow.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. For lying about him.

[Blair White]

Wow. Yeah, that's how it goes. Like, that's why even, like, when I opened it, like, the stuff about the articles today pissing me off, it's kind of. It's what you deal with when you have careers like ours.

[Interviewer]

So you gonna go after the outlet or are you just gonna let it?

[Blair White]

Oh, no, no, it's. And it's not even necessarily the articles. It was just. It's people's reactions.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

You know, it's like liberals saying, see red states suck. She's fleeing to California, which is the opposite. First of all, I was born in California. Second of all, I fleed to Texas during lockdowns. So if anything, it's Democrat policy I was ever running from.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Blair White]

You know, and then Republicans saying, see, she was never really a Republican because she's moving to California. And there's that mentality among conservatives that, like California and New York deserve to just burn and let them fall by the wayside. And it's like they're Americans too. And a lot of them didn't ask for illegal immigrants to permanently lock their state into being Democrat. And we gotta fix it. So I'd rather be part of the solution than just bitch about it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Going straight into the fire. Hats off to you.

[Blair White]

Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer]

You know, a lot of people are leaving Cali and you're going straight back.

[Blair White]

Yeah, I know, I know. But it is what it is.

[Interviewer]

Newsom might run in 28. It looks like he's gearing up for it.

[Blair White]

That's what I see. And what's really frustrating about that is in a world without all this Epstein Israel stuff, I don't think that would be possible because I think people have been really sick and tired of Democrats. I mean, their approval rate was the lowest in history for them. And this last election kind of showed them to be largely a joke. The only way you could have taught that in being a joke is covering up for sex offenders and bombing countries after you said you wouldn't. So it sucks that it seems like we're kind of handing them this win, but I guess that's politics that goes left and then right, always. Sometimes really hard and sometimes really left.

[Interviewer]

It's just how much dirt you could dig up, how much blackmail you could get, Right?

[Blair White]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's a really, I think, ugly world, unfortunately.

[Interviewer]

Did you see this Obama stuff lately?

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

With Tulsi exposing them.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And I believe it because Russiagate, all the Russia stuff, was clearly a hoax in the beginning. As someone who, like I said, three time Trump voter, I remember those days very clearly. But I have to admit, it's hard to care about in the midst of the Epstein stuff. And I think that it probably was strategic for them to pull that trigger and start talking about that in the midst of the Epstein stuff.

[Interviewer]

Do you think it's a little distraction?

[Blair White]

Mm.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It makes you wonder if they just stockpile information like that to, like, kind of distract people. Right.

[Blair White]

They gotta have stuff in the arsenal like, this came out. We gotta distract for sure.

[Interviewer]

Crazy.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. This Epstein stuff really divided the party, and rightfully so.

[Blair White]

I mean, if you can't draw the line at children, you have no line. I mean, if you have no line, if you're not willing to for that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I hope something comes of it. We'll see if it. You do even think there's a genuine list, though? Like, honestly?

[Blair White]

Well, that's the thing, is people get the. The list has almost become like a meme. Right. But the reality is yes, I'm sure there is a working list of people they know committed certain crimes, but, you know, it's really not the list that we want. It's prosecutions. Like, I could actually care less about, like a list of names. Like, I'm reading some drama or some tea, like, oh, this person is into this messed up shit. It's more like, okay, this person's into this mess of shit, so we're arresting him. Right. And that's the part that's missing, is I don't even see the word prosecution being thrown around very much. People are just like, give us the list, the list. It's like, how about put them in jail? Because that's kind of basic. You do something to a kid, you go to jail. But apparently, I don't know. And that's the actual reality is when it goes back to, like the survivor I interviewed, not even getting any articles about it. But my move to California is it's like, people, right? I was like, people really don't care about victims that much. People just claim to. It's just the drama and the political implications people care about, not really the people themselves.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Blair White]

Like Virginia Giuffre getting hit by the bus after she posted she's not suicidal.

[Interviewer]

Crazy.

[Blair White]

And then I saw the nerve of some Trump supporters saying, well, why don't the victims just come forward? Why can't they just name names? As if it's their obligation to do press conferences about their trauma and as if they haven't done that and then died for it. Like, maybe they don't want to get hit by a bus, perhaps. But, yeah, it's scary.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Well, we know the outlets are controlled, so they're not going to report on stuff like your interview.

[Blair White]

Right, right. Because again, it's not just even the sex trafficking. It's like, oh, she saw a ufo. Cut that out.

[Interviewer]

You mentioned earlier there was a lot of resentment in the trans community. Is it still like that right now? Would you say, oh, they hate man.

[Blair White]

Yeah, they hate me. I don't really get it fully because their argument against me is that I fight against trans rights, but I look at all the rights they're asking for and fighting for, and none of them really have anything to do with the word. Right. Like, you don't have a right to sterilize children. You don't have a right to compete in a sports category. That isn't right for you. You don't have a right to, you know, have the government pay for your surgeries. You know, so for me, when it comes to rights. It's like owning a home, working, you know, it's. It's the right to travel, get on a plane. It's the right to free speech. It's not like sex changes for minors. Like, I find that to be satanic.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

And I would never get behind that. That's probably the thing they hate for the most, is that from the start of my career, I've been like, that's a no for me. And it's evil.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Because your brain's still developing. Right.

[Blair White]

Right. And you can't consent as a minor to sex. So what makes you think you can consent to a sex change? And it's just. I personally can't wrap my head around supporting it, especially as someone who's been through transition. The idea that a child would be going through what I went through when I transitioned is diabolical.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Because that process is difficult. Right. Mentally.

[Blair White]

Right. For an adult. So imagine a child. Not to mention, I think it's right for only a very small fraction of people. Like, trans has become this broad thing that anybody can say they are and get a surgery and go on hormones. And I look at 90% of them and I'm like, you're destroying your life. That's clearly the wrong decision for you.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

Like, if you're married with three kids and suddenly you're a woman. Like the Mr. B sidekick.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. What was his name?

[Blair White]

Chris something.

[Interviewer]

Chris. Yeah.

[Blair White]

Or something. It's like, I don't see that as being valid. You know what I mean? For me, I've always been feminine and known who I was since a pretty young age. Which still doesn't mean I could consent to anything changing. But it just means if you don't have that sense of self, even through getting married and having heterosexual sex and having kids, it's just bizarre. You're gonna ruin a family over that. Like, really. And then it is a social contagion among teenagers. So little girls going to school, their. Their friend Stacy is Nick now. And suddenly it infects friend groups. And that's been documented and studied. So it's. It's very strange. Especially because when I transitioned, none of that was going on. Like, literally none of it. There was one or two trans kids in Europe.

[Interviewer]

The whole continent of Europe.

[Blair White]

Yeah. Maybe more than one or two. But, like, out in the media. Right. Like, they would go on little news, you know, stations up there and been, like, the world's youngest trans kid. But it was a European thing. They're always doing stuff first.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

And then In America, it was more of like, no, but you can do that when you're an adult, which makes sense. And all of a sudden it's almost synonymous with the word minor. People don't even really talk about adults that much unless it comes to sports, which is also messed up. So it's, it's, it's just a really like, annoying group to be a part of. Even though I'm really not. If I'm part of a group, it's an American, it's a human being, it's a Christian. And even that, I don't see myself as part of a group as a Christian either, because I believe that's a personal relationship with God. So I don't really do groups, you know.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, because you don't want to label yourself something and then get boxed in. Right.

[Blair White]

And some of them are inevitable. Like, I mean, I could say I'm anti group all I want, but when I run for office, it's going to be Republican because you have to do, you got to conform what you got to do, but it doesn't mean you have to govern. Like, that doesn't mean you have to make decisions that are in line with that. And I mean, I will for the most part, but I'm also an independent person and a free thinker. So that's why I can critique Trump right now. In the midst of all the Israel and Epstein stuff, respect.

[Interviewer]

Do you feel like the trans stuff was pushed on kids really heavily lately?

[Blair White]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, putting the books in middle schools, everyone's seen that. The programming, I mean, literal programming, mind control on television, showing it and this sort of lore surrounding it that it solves all your problems and that if you don't do it, you're gonna delete yourself. You know, they emotionally blackmail parents into. If you don't give your kid this surgery, when they don't feel like a boy or a girl, they're gonna off themselves. And that's so ugly and so untrue. And I think that's such a horrible, like, wanna talk about black magic? That's like a spell you're casting on this, on this innocent young soul. How do you know they're going to off themselves if they don't get a surgery, if they don't take a drug? That's so horrific.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Blair White]

And I don't even think the stats bear that out. All those stats come from activist groups that have an incentive to make themselves off to be the biggest victims possible. And so I don't even believe that as many trans People are suicidal, as people say. Like I've known, I probably know more trans people than like anyone. Just because I connect with people all over the world, online and in person due to who I am, I've never probably hundreds of trans friends, none of them have not made it, you know what I mean? Like, so I don't believe half those numbers. They're activist numbers. And you need to leave kids alone, flat out. Kids need to be able to develop into who they're going to be. And I also am an American who believes in freedom. So if when they're 18 they want to start making appointments and do their thing, God bless, hope it works out for you. But banking on a 13 year old becoming sterilized for life, you can't make that decision. Yeah. So they're anti.

[Interviewer]

When you see like red pill guys say being trans is like a mental condition, like a mental health issue, what do you say to that?

[Blair White]

Oh, it totally is.

[Interviewer]

Oh, you agree with them?

[Blair White]

Yeah, just like there's a lot of things that are mental health conditions. You know, there's autism, there's depression, there's anxiety, there's all sorts of things. And so I think that there's a stigma against the word mental illness or mental disorder. But it's been recognized as such gender dysphoria, at least in the DSM 5 and throughout academic literature since the beginning. You know, a lot of people have just heard about this issue in the past few years since it becomes so politicized. But there has been literature on this psychological literature for a hundred years near. And it's always been classified as some sort of disorder. But there's all sorts of disorders that you can still function through life. You know what I mean? I'm still a tax paying good citizen. I don't flip out on people. And then there's people who are schizophrenic that sometimes have to be in hospitals because they will attack people. So just the word mental disorder, I mean I personally believe that, that actually people could have empathy for that. But if you're just saying you are a man, you are a woman, end of discussion. It's kind of like, okay, well don't you think something with your neurological wiring would make you feel that way? AKA a disorder. Right. And I'm also just of the opinion that like it's not a bad thing to have a disorder necessarily. Like autism is people's superpower. You know, I've helped a lot of people in my life because I'm trans. I've made content that has saved people's lives. They say that all the time. You know, I get to interview Epstein survivors. And am I ignorant to the fact that I probably wouldn't be as known if I wasn't trans? Of course, that's a window into knowing me. People know me as that. It's the first thing on Wikipedia. Trans political commentator. So I'm thankful for everything God has put in my life. And, you know, it is what it is. I also have anxiety. I'm not like, ashamed to say I have anxiety.

[Interviewer]

You know, how bad is it these days?

[Blair White]

Oh, it's bad, it's bad. We got bombs dropping, Pedos flying the world still.

[Interviewer]

So you, you have a lot of empathy, it sounds like, for people.

[Blair White]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not one of those people that's like, I'm an empath, but I'm a human being capable of empathy. And unfortunately, I think a lot of people aren't like.

[Interviewer]

I think people are numb.

[Blair White]

People are numb.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Just so much bad stuff in the news. They're just. I don't know if they lose their.

[Blair White]

Empathy, you know, and there's so much. The way that, that the system works and the way that the elites work is they do traumatize us collectively and what they know about trauma. And you can look at all the MK Ultra declassifications, you can look at the science on trauma and what it does to the brain when trauma occurs. Suggestibility skyrockets.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

So that's why you can do a 911 and then immediately be like, we have to put all these laws into place now for your safety. And it ends up being things that take away our freedom. And now we're all getting sexually assaulted in the TSA forever as if we're terrorists. Because we all said, yes, we have to do that right after the trauma. Right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

So like Covid, how many things about society change that we don't even necessarily recognize because they were able to just, you know. Yeah, we have to walk on this line in the grocery store and six feet and don't breathe the air. It's because our suggestibility was skyrocketed because we just went through this huge trauma of like a pandemic.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. A lot of people bought that six foot rule. And it's so silly looking back on that one.

[Blair White]

Right. It's terrifying remembering because I lived in Hollywood at the time and I remember them like, filling up the skate park with. With sand and having the National Guard with guns on the beach because you couldn't breathe the fresh air. You know, that is so demonic and scary to me. And like I said, that's what I ran from. But now I want to run back and just make sure that doesn't happen anymore. Because California is a beautiful state and that's why they invert it so heavily. That's why they govern it the way they do. They're destroying beauty. It's what they do.

[Interviewer]

Hollywood took over too, I think.

[Blair White]

Oh yeah. Hollywood's been that was a cyber since day one. You know, they make the programming we all watch.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah. It's crazy to see how many wars and still new wars starting from 9 11.

[Blair White]

Right. It's us and, and that's why for me, I am not ashamed to be anti war. I think lately there's a lot of people trying to gaslight people who are anti war. You know, they called people in the, on the right, they called us panic ins if we were freaking out about Trump siding with Israel and bombing Iran. As if the bombing of people isn't something to panic about. So that's number one. It's like World War Three and Epstein, that makes me a panic in. I'm okay panicking about child sex trafficking and dropping bombs on people, but what was I trying to say?

[Interviewer]

9, 11, war.

[Blair White]

Oh yeah, that's the thing. The biggest reason why I'm anti war forever is that they never actually give us the real reasons we go to war. So how can I consent to something I don't even know what you're putting me into? Right? So like there's so many side missions, classified shit that we're not allowed to know about that happens in all these wars. The reason they give you on the TV when they put on the suit and say we're going to war right now is not even close to the real reason. It's probably the most benign reason. And then behind it is all these secret block operations they want to do. You know, like why were they looking for Gilgamesh's tomb in Iraq? Like why is that a thing? Why did Hillary Clinton talk about that in the emails and WikiLeaks? Right. So it's a lot behind everything. So you have to be anti war because it's not like, you know, the reason anyways.

[Interviewer]

I'll never forget the weapons of mass destruction programming that I saw in the news every day as a kid. And now to find out that was all BS is just like, because I saw my cousins literally go to war and some of them died for that. It's like.

[Blair White]

And it's so hard because it's such an emotionally charged topic that, you know, a lot of veterans don't want to hear that, and I respect that. They don't want to be told that maybe they participated in something that is something other than what they thought. But it doesn't just affect veterans. It affects all of us and the world we're living in. And that entire war was a lie. And I also believe 911 was largely a lie. And I just think we're living in something completely fake. And until we reckon with that and find new solutions, we're going to continue living in that.

[Interviewer]

There's a lot of concerning evidence on 911 at this point.

[Blair White]

Right. And that was sort of my. I remember watching like Infowars when I was probably 11 years old, which is like, literally. And it's actually very, like, simulationy because Alex Jones was my first interview ever.

[Interviewer]

Oh, wow.

[Blair White]

First person to interview me when I first started. But, you know, those old days especially. He's still amazing and he's a friend. But those old days especially sneaking into Bohemian Grove.

[Interviewer]

Oh, he was draw back in the day.

[Blair White]

Right. And. And why we're still paying taxes after that is crazy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

You know, all this stuff can sound crazy until you remember, oh, yeah, they were in the woods doing a mock sacrifice to Moloch.

[Interviewer]

So shout out to Alex, though. He set the groundwork for people like us to step in. Right.

[Blair White]

Yeah. He. He is the reason why a lot of people have the careers they have right now in. In this space. And he's OG have you talked to.

[Interviewer]

Ben Shapiro since your debate with him many years ago?

[Blair White]

No, but I. He blocked me because I clown him a lot.

[Interviewer]

Oh, you did?

[Blair White]

Yeah. I'm like the OG Ben Shapiro hater women. I say hater because I don't hate anybody. But, you know, he's bad on gun laws, he's pro vaccine, he's pro Israel before America.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Blair White]

He's just everything I feel like he shouldn't be. If you're pro America, which is the. You know, and just the fact that when the Epstein stuff came out, he just believed it right away. The government said so. And that sort of mentality, I think is just so antithetical towards the liberation of humanity because you should treat everything the government says as a lie first.

[Interviewer]

A hundred percent.

[Blair White]

And anybody who's like, well, that's good enough. Same with Charlie Kirk. I'm believing my friends in the government.

[Interviewer]

I'm a little concerned about Charlie. I just filmed a lot at his event. But it's like, can you have your own opinions?

[Blair White]

You know, What I mean, and he, you know, nobody is the sum of only the things they're wrong about or the things they're bad or good. Everyone's a human being in the middle. But so Charlie Kirk has done a lot of good work for Republicans, for conservatism. He's, you know, maybe not red pilled a lot of young people, but he's like pink pilled a lot of them, you know, and so there's value in that. But the sentence, I'm going to trust my friends in the government. It's just so crazy to come out of a conservative's mouth.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

And you know, a lot of people, it's like, yeah, it's, it's the, the tranny conservative over here saying that. But it's like, it's still the truth. I could be a green goblin. It's still the truth coming out of my mouth. So we need new people talking right now about things. We need new people.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I think a major issue with both of those, like, people is you gotta rely on the donors and they're gonna be in your ear. You know, they need donors to keep the business running.

[Blair White]

Right. And that's why taking money in politics is so ugly and it just freezes you. And so all of a sudden you can't criticize is real. It's like, I'm sorry if money comes out of my paycheck every month and it goes straight to the bombs that are dropping on children. I have a right to say something. I have a right to even be mad about it. And the further it goes, especially the disproportionate reaction, the longer it goes, how many kids do need to die? And it's not even just about kids. Grown men don't need to be dying for this. No, no human needs to be dying for the sins of just a few elites at the top that want to kill each other or want to take land or whatever, or because their religious text gives them the, the supposed right to do that. And obviously Muslims are still guilty of that too. You know, Islam permits a lot of stuff. That's why suicide bombers exist. But we're under this delusion that that's the only religion that permits evil acts. And it's just not the truth. Even Christianity does in certain passages. But it. We don't live like that. Christians have moved past a lot of this stuff. We're like, you know what? Probably not going to stone kids for dishonoring their parents, but these, a lot of these other religions, certain things that have not moved past you can't just kill someone who's an infidel or whatever. So we got to figure something out.

[Interviewer]

We have to, hopefully soon. A lot of people have been dying.

[Blair White]

And it doesn't seem to have an end in sight. It's like, what is the plan here? You know? And if the plan is getting back for October 7th, I feel like they have. We can stop now, right? I feel like you guys have. I feel like way more people have died now on the other side. And when it comes to starving children and shooting people, trying to get food and aid, setting up a fake aid to shoot the vic.

[Interviewer]

Crazy.

[Blair White]

That is. And I don't even use the word satanic as a pun. That is satanic as shit. Yeah, that is.

[Interviewer]

That's evil.

[Blair White]

That is. Let me look at what is good and do the exact opposite. So they're losing a lot of people. You know, I saw them. They. They lost people like Michael Knowles recently because they.

[Interviewer]

Oh, really?

[Blair White]

They. They hit a. A Catholic church, like the only Catholic church in Gaza.

[Interviewer]

I didn't think Knowles, since he's under Daily Wire. Right.

[Blair White]

I know. That's how bad it is. That's how bad it is. And to speak in. On. On. In defense of. Of people and of Israel, you know, people from Israel, it's kind of like, I don't want you guys to feel like your back is so against the wall that everyone's turning on you. I really don't. Because that is still just as much of a chance of something ugly happening. I don't want you guys to be persecuted. I don't want you to be hated. I don't want any of that. And we've seen throughout history what happens when this group or others just become so hated. And that's satanic as well. But you gotta compromise a little bit. You can't act as if Israel is the perfect state. They can do no wrong. And if you have anything to say about it's blood libel or it's anti Semitic or hateful, because people feel very comfortable all day long saying stuff about Christianity and definitely Muslims. Doesn't mean you hate them. But for some reason, the standard is different.

[Interviewer]

It's way different.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

We got legislators in this country about anti Semitism.

[Blair White]

Right. And that happened in Texas. So people were like, oh, she's fleeing Texas because they're too conservative or. Well, I guess in the sense. Yeah. Because they're making it that you can't criticize Judaism.

[Interviewer]

Oh, that was in Texas.

[Blair White]

Wasn't in Texas. Just. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that's surprising. In Texas, Red state. That is interesting.

[Blair White]

But that's. That's the interesting thing is that conservatives are more pro Israel right now than even the left.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

You know, and not even all conservatives. It's split there too. But it's. It's scary because like I said, I don't want disproportionate hate towards people. And anyone who blames the average person for anything happening is just as sick as the people who.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.

[Blair White]

No. So you stub your toe. It's not always okay. But there also is, you know, it just goes so deep. But there is esoteric versions of all the three major religions that people, the elites practice that you don't. So, like, there's a version of Christianity the elites practice that you don't. There's a version of that they consider to be the real version that you don't know. Really esoteric is Kabbalah.

[Interviewer]

I've heard of Kabbalah.

[Blair White]

Right. Ren. And Kabbalah is very. It's encompasses a lot.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

But it basically can be used as a tool for extreme psychological manipulation, which is unfortunately something people are known for.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

It's. It's. If you know Kabbalah, you're basically a master psychologist. That's one of the things. So you know every kind of situation. Like, you know, character types of people. So you're able to. This person has daddy issues. You can spot it like that. You learn psychology really well in Kabbalah. And there's other things, too. There's magical and ritualistic aspects of it too. And then esoteric Christianity, that'd be Gnosticism, Esoteric Islam, Sufism, and the elite practice. You know these ones, the middle classes, you get regular scripture and regular. Regular religion.

[Interviewer]

That is crazy. I did not know that. I need to look into that. I had a cabal expert on the show.

[Blair White]

Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer]

So he could just read me. I had no idea. It's been on twice, actually.

[Blair White]

It's one of the many things Kabbalah encompasses. Yeah. And doesn't mean everybody knows Kabbalah. And I bet a lot of don't even know that people at the top of their religion practice Kabbalah. Just like a lot of people don't know that at the top of Christianity you have like Rosicrucians and Gnostics. And that's why there's Rosicrucian iconography and symbols at the Vatican. Like, the people at the top of these religions don't practice what you think they do. And they actually stigmatize those things publicly so that no one looks into it. So you're not allowed to look at the banned books of the Bible, you know what I mean? Because that would be of the devil. Because all the Bible is just perfect the way that the Vatican says it needs to be. Meanwhile, they have Rosicrucian symbolism all over the Vatican.

[Interviewer]

Evil stuff about the Vatican, to be honest.

[Blair White]

Right.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Dark, dark stuff.

[Blair White]

Right. That's why, you know, for me, my belief in God is a personal relationship with God. It's a one way communication or two way and it doesn't involve what anybody else practices. Right. And I'm very dead set on, you know, interpreting the Bible, how I believe that God is steering me to interpret it, you know, which is why I don't stone children when I see them disobeying their parents. And why I also understand that there's passages about trans and gay. Well, not trans, actually. It's like that word didn't exist back then. But you know, Jesus is for everybody. So I, I have that relationship and I'm just learning about it. Still been a Christian for about two years.

[Interviewer]

Nice.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I personally think these days that's the way to go. Because so many churches are compromised.

[Blair White]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean? Like, I'd rather just learn on my own, maybe with a couple friends.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I think that's the way to do it.

[Blair White]

Yeah. You look at Jehovah Witness and just as an example, we can go through many a million. But Jehovah Witnesses, how they are, there's a lot of evidence that there's rituals that go on at their headquarters. Satanic rituals.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

You know, people create churches to manipulate people too, you know, and that's why, from my understanding of the Bible, it's about you and Jesus. It's not about you and the church and the institutions that are always going to lie and control you. Right. It's about that salvation and that, that number you can call up and talk to God whenever you want to.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. These churches these days are companies.

[Blair White]

Yeah. You look at, what is it called? I saw Tyler Oliveira did a video covering it. The prosperity Christianity or something.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Guy had like 80 acres or something.

[Blair White]

Right. And like basically worshiping money, which is satanic.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

You know, so when I, when I first started talking online about Christianity, a lot of people were telling me, go to this church, go to this church. Can't wait for you. Go to church. And for me I was like, well, why can't I read and study the Bible on my own and make up my own mind about it. Especially considering like a lot of pastors don't know what they're talking about. And I'm by no means an expert, but when you're talking about God wants you to be a millionaire, it's like God does not want you to worship the dollar bill with the occult pyramid and the all seeing eye on it. You know what I mean? He just doesn't.

[Interviewer]

I just started reading the Bible last week.

[Blair White]

Really love it.

[Interviewer]

I think it's important to. I have on a lot of Christian casts, so I want to be able to understand what they're saying sometimes, you know.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And it's, it's a text that is both historical, metaphorical, literal, all of the above. That's why it's complicated. There's certain things you have to take as a metaphor. There's certain things that are probably way more historically accurate than we even want to believe. And I personally think a lot of the, more like paranormal stuff is very real and factual. You know, all the fallen angels stuff that they took out, I think that's what aliens are. Personally, fallen angels.

[Interviewer]

I could see that.

[Blair White]

Yeah. Because the story is the same between, you know, all the government whistleblowers come out and say that the aliens are giving humans technology. What did they do in the book of Enoch? They're giving humans technology and that was their, you know, sin supposedly from God. So I don't think they're little green men. I think they're probably the, the non human entities that have been with us forever. And through all the translations they get called different things. Sometimes they're angels, sometimes they're demons, sometimes they're daemons, sometimes they're, you know, fallen. And then there's disagreements about if that's really, you know, they're fallen or if they're good angels. So it's a lot.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it is. What's the typical Christian stance on trans? Because I know growing up the gay thing was a huge deal.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

What about trans?

[Blair White]

There is no, from my understanding, you know, trans as the concept as it is now, as I would fall under, wasn't a thing until, you know, the past few hundred years. But there is a passage about men wearing women's clothes, which is again, it's kind of like one of those. In my mind, the way I see it is it's not that I disregarded it and I wanted to figure out if I needed to adhere to that because I could still be trans and wearing men's clothes. I'm wearing blue jeans right now.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

But it's kind of like the whole, like, don't wear mixed fabrics things in my mind in the Bible, it's kind of like no one follows that and doesn't mean it's right or wrong. But you look at fashion, what is considered men and women's clothing, Right. It's like the founding fathers wore wigs and makeup and high heels and gowns. They were wearing more women's stuff than I am right now. So then it's like, okay, so does God keep up with fashion trends and what's considered men and women's at different times? Women wear blue jeans right now, they would fall under the same sin as I am, you know, wearing men's clothing while being a woman wearing jeans. So for me, I don't believe that God is too hung up on my flesh. I don't think that, you know, God is too hung up on the clothes I'm wearing. I think God cares a lot more about if I'm fighting for good in the world, which I try to do every day. And if. If at the end, it's like, you did all that good, but you wore a woman's shirt once in a while, it's kind of like, I guess I'll. I guess I'll own that. But in my mind, if you can be Christian on death row, reading those books right before you die, if you can be working at Lockheed, making bombs that are going to go drop on kids and claim Christian, I can claim Christian and be trans.

[Interviewer]

You know, a lot of fake Christians these days.

[Blair White]

Right, Right. And some people would maybe say that about me, but I don't know, half of y' all are having babies out of wedlock, and so claim Christians. So we're all fallen. And that's the point. And that's why Jesus died for us. So pick and choose. Right, Right, right. We all do some level of picking and choosing. And a clothing line in the Bible is kind of like, I guess I do choose a little bit.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. No one's perfect. I mean, I hate when people put on this perfect Persona. It's like a red flag.

[Blair White]

And I wear a hoodie just like you wear every day. Blue jeans. I could technically be the exact same person right now and just wear menschooling.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

So respect.

[Interviewer]

Because I. I know they were hating on all the gay people when I was growing up. That was like, a huge deal. So.

[Blair White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I grew up in that time, so I remember it as well. And that was obviously before I transitioned, so I got the. The gay stuff. Too, that gay hate or whatever. And it is unfortunate because I think it would benefit everyone if gay and trans people felt more comfortable having a relationship with God.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

Because you see a lot of godless behavior of that community. You see pride parades where things are so ugly and inappropriate for the public. You see support for things like, you know, child transitions. You see support for, you know, all sorts of things that I consider to be evil and harmful. And I think that if gay and trans people have more of a relationship with God, it would benefit everyone because there would be less of that. You know, like, I don't like that a lot of gay and trans people feel turned off or like they can't have a relationship with God. I've never really felt that pressure. I always just. I have a lot of spiritual trauma from my childhood and my family's beliefs. And I think that steered me away from looking into God until pretty recently in my life. But I'm so glad I did because it. It changed my life. It opened up everything. I feel like I was literally born again.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

You know, I feel like my brain finally developed. I feel like I understood the universe finally. Like, oh, yeah, it's God.

[Interviewer]

I love that.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Super cool. Yeah. You were kicked out of the, what, Austin Pride Festival.

[Blair White]

Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer]

What'd you do there?

[Blair White]

I was just asking people their opinions on things like child transition, men and women's sports, all the hot topics. Basically nothing was fringe. Everything was like, there's articles about it every day. And the security, like, got all mad and kicked me out and followed me around, threatened me because, like I said, I'm like kind of the Voldemort of that community.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

Yeah. They hate me.

[Interviewer]

No free speech, huh?

[Blair White]

Yeah. Stop. Not for me. Not for me. It's kind of like, it's like the. The trans people, you know, support trans people, but not wear white. And the Christians are like Jesus for everybody, but not trans people. It's like, there's just no consistency with people. But that's why being an individual is so important. And that's why I do reject collectivism so heavily. And that's why I, you know, fell into more of a right wing ideology as an adult really early because I recognized I'm not a collective, I'm not a cog in the machine. I'm an individual person. And there still is a lot of collectivism on the right, but it's less than on the left, where it's just so high mind.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

You know, we got to kick this trans person out of the Pride Right. It's like, that's crazy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. There was one tweet that I wanted to ask you about. You said being conservative is. Is harder than being trans.

[Blair White]

Did I say that?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

I don't remember that. What was the context?

[Interviewer]

Like, I don't know. I pulled that though. I thought that was interesting. Being conservative.

[Blair White]

I probably read something like that. Yeah. I mean, I definitely get more hate for it. You know, people think that maybe I would get more hate from conservatives. It's really not the case. I open my phone and it's just a stream of leftist being like, shoot yourself in the head.

[Interviewer]

Geez.

[Blair White]

You know what I mean? Fuck you. You're sucking the white man's boot. Or whatever the fuck they say. I've gotten doxxed every place I've ever lived from leftists. Never had a conservative dox me.

[Interviewer]

How do they get your address? It's crazy.

[Blair White]

It was like every place I move, like, within like a month, it's out.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Blair White]

Yeah. There was even like an AI video I saw on TikTok, and it was about the articles written about me this week. And it was like, Blair White moving to California. And it showed like a Google Earth of my actual house.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Blair White]

And I don't live in some. Like, usually when I see that, they'll be like, oh, Diddy moved to a new mega mansion. This is the 40,000 acre whatever. And I just live in like a condo. It's like fucking like $800,000.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy.

[Blair White]

And like, why are you showing my house?

[Interviewer]

So did you put the house on a trust?

[Blair White]

No. I don't know how. I don't know how. I was doxed.

[Interviewer]

We'll talk off camera. Yeah, okay. There's ways to prevent that, but that's fucked off.

[Blair White]

I was doxed pretty quick.

[Interviewer]

I'm not a fan of doxxing for any situation. Like, no matter what.

[Blair White]

Like, it's disgusting and we can't. We. We need dialogue and we can't have it if that's. You know. And I see why a lot of trans people, because I don't want to overplay how much they hate me. Cause it is split. You know, I have a lot of gain trans supporters, but they're very silent because they see what I get. So they're like, I'll get them. Like, I'll be walking down the street and someone will come up and be like, I'm trans and I love your opinions. I could never say them, but love you. Thank you. And I'm like, well, I kind of Wish you did. You'd be a little less crazy. Just me out here by myself, but.

[Interviewer]

A lot of shame and guilt in that community, right?

[Blair White]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's a lot of. A lot of them end up getting estranged from their families. So, like, these leftists around them are. Become their families. Whereas for me, I would rather be alone than in a group of people who, first of all, support things I don't support and are fake enough to disown me. Because I might think differently. Right. Like, I lost all my friends in the sort of, like, leftist trans world when I first started my YouTube channel, like, overnight, I lost, like, all my friends.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And all I was talking about at that point was like, I think just like, feminism, like that old. Back when you were against it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, Feminism.

[Blair White]

Yeah. That's before the post.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I'd imagine most of the trends are on the left, now that I think about it. I can't think of any on the right.

[Blair White]

Caitlyn Jenner. Me and Caitlin are like, you and Caitlin.

[Interviewer]

That's it.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And it's crazy because people act like that's so, like, how is that a thing? And it's like, you know, I also, like, care about the border and, like, female taxes I'm paying and, like, foreign policy and war and, like, a million other things other than trans.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

So like I said, I. I don't walk around as, like, trans first. I walk around as a human being and American. So I've gotta have. I have to be okay with, like, an open border because I'm trans. It's just weird. It makes sense.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Well, have fun paying more taxes in Cali.

[Blair White]

Right. That's the thing I'm taking. Ls going back for y', all, so maybe just say thank you.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Your opponent's probably gonna raise millions of dollars with the funding. You know, you got a tough road ahead of you.

[Blair White]

Yeah, that's life. Everything's been a tough road. It's not like it's been easy coming this far.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Well, thanks for what you do. Where can people watch your show and everything?

[Blair White]

They can find my YouTube channel. They can find my podcast, the Blair White Project. I think I'm pretty much the only person with that name, so just look up Blair White. And I'm on everything.

[Interviewer]

Awesome. Check her out, guys. And if you want to link the campaign, we'll have people donate, too. Thanks for watching me. Yep. Peace. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you.