Brad Lea: You’re Broke Because You Chose It | DSH #1520

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Brad Lea: “You’re Broke Because You Chose It” | DSH #1520

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Brad Lea
Date: September 3, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with entrepreneur, podcaster, and multi-business owner Brad Lea for an unfiltered, spirited conversation on the power of personal choice, the myths around success and masculinity, the realities behind social media influence, AI skepticism, and the importance of mindset and relationships. Brad unapologetically shares his philosophies—rooted in self-responsibility and blunt truth—while challenging victim mentalities and conventional thinking about stress, money, and what really matters.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Responsibility and the Power of Choice

• Main Thesis: People end up broke or fat because, in Brad's view, they choose to be that way. He believes the core of success lies in understanding and exercising our free will.
  • “If you're broke, you chose to be broke. If you're fat, you chose to be fat.” (00:00, Brad Lea)
• Brad hammers the point that victim mentality holds people back, arguing that, barring rare exceptions, life’s results are the product of chosen habits and mindsets.
• Notable Quote:
  • “Discipline is a choice. I would debate that with anyone… It's not something that you have or don't have. It's something that you choose or don't choose.” (15:25, Brad Lea)

2. Masculinity and Modern Social Norms

• Brad critiques the popular “toxic masculinity” narrative, arguing that traditional masculine virtues are undervalued today.
  • “There's nothing toxic about masculinity. Masculinity, I think, is a little bit undervalued, really…” (06:15, Brad Lea)
• Emphasizes gentlemanly behavior (paying on dates, opening doors), boundary-setting, and personal honor.
  • “You gotta be kind… It's a gentle man. Like, listen, I mean, there's—you gotta be kind, Sean. You gotta be a kind individual.” (04:44, Brad Lea)

3. Truth, Kindness, and Authenticity

• Brad values blunt honesty, even if it’s “hard to hear," and stresses combining truth with kindness.
  • “Truth will set you free. Truth is like poetry. Not everybody likes it.” (12:30, Brad Lea)

4. Mindset, Stress, and Emotional Control

• Argues that stress and emotional reactions are, ultimately, choices.
  • “I don't get stressed… Stress is a condition that people are afflicted with because of their anxiety. I choose not to let it bother me.” (39:05, Brad Lea)
• Advocates using emotions as “triggers” to reflect, not as drivers of action.
• Shares a practical reframe: even without money, happiness is possible if you choose a grateful mindset.
  • “You could choose to be happy with no money. It is possible.” (18:25, Brad Lea)

5. Escape from Victimhood and Building Self-Image

• Discusses the importance of avoiding blaming others (society, upbringing, government) for one’s state.
  • “It's your fault. What are you doing? You're removing victim mentality.” (25:07, Brad Lea)
• Believes self-image sets limits: "You’re never going to outperform your own self-image." (24:39, Brad Lea)

6. Habits, Skills, and Becoming Financially Successful

• Brad's recipe for wealth:
  • Mindset
  • Skill set
  • Habits
• “If you have a killer mindset, abundant mindset, you have killer skills and you have killer habits, it is almost impossible that you will not be extremely well paid, period.” (47:23, Brad Lea)
• Sales, personal branding, marketing, communication, and relationship-building identified as essential skills.

7. Social Media, Celebrity, and Personal Branding

• Defines himself as a businessman first, podcaster and influencer second—“real business, brick and mortar.”
• Social media amplifies reach; urges everyone to build a personal brand for credibility in an AI-dominated future.
  • “Personal brand is building trust... because no one’s going to know what’s real and what’s not real.” (10:35, Brad Lea)

8. AI Scepticism

• Brad is openly skeptical of current AI, calling it a “scam” because it simply regurgitates internet data.
  • “AI is a scam... You use it as a tool, but it’s not end all, be all. People think it’s gospel.” (00:00 & 35:09, Brad Lea)
• Points out AI can amplify misinformation if its training data is faulty, and stresses “actual intelligence made AI.”

9. On Religion and Spirituality

• Brad clarifies his spiritual beliefs—identifying as a believer in a creator, but critical of organized religion and Bible inerrancy.
  • “Organized religion isn’t the truth. The fact that there’s a creator is the truth.” (31:27, Brad Lea)
• Shares nuanced observations on translation errors and differences between religious traditions.

10. Materialism vs. What Matters

• Acknowledges his own indulgences in luxury brands for self-satisfaction, but argues relationships and personal meaning trump material goods.
  • “If I was gonna die tomorrow, I don’t want to see my cars one more time. I want to see my kids one more time. People matter.” (68:19, Brad Lea)
• Warns against losing focus by chasing status symbols at the expense of life’s genuine joys and connections.

11. Relationship Wisdom and Abundance

• Brad describes a lifelong “abundance mindset”—both in business and relationships—arguing that there is always more and better ahead if you choose to seek it.
  • “Every time I get rid of one, I get a better one.” (69:14, Brad Lea)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Free Will:

  • “Who makes your choices? … That’s free will.” (13:44, Brad Lea)

• On Mindset:

  • “Your frequency is what you frequently see.” (17:04, Brad Lea)

• On Success:

  • “Show me somebody with a shitty life, I’ll show you somebody with shitty habits.” (53:36, Brad Lea)

• On AI:

  • “Actual intelligence made AI. AI has never made a human being. So AI’s never created life, right?” (35:09, Brad Lea)

• On Relationships:

  • “Relationships are where money comes from. The more hands you shake, the more money you make.” (44:30, Brad Lea)

• On Materialism:

  • “I wish all the money I’ve blown on name brand stupid… especially cars… but when it really boils down to it, Sean, none of that matters.” (67:13, Brad Lea)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic / Quote | |---------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Brad’s opening: choice, masculinity, and AI skepticism | | 04:44 | Traditional values, kindness, and masculinity | | 06:15 | Debating toxic masculinity, old-fashioned etiquette | | 12:30 | “Truth will set you free…”—on honesty and kindness | | 15:25 | “Discipline is a choice” | | 17:04 | Frequency, mindset, and perspective | | 24:39 | “You’re never going to outperform your self-image” | | 25:07 | Escaping the victim mentality | | 31:27 | Critique of organized religion, belief in a creator | | 35:09 | AI skepticism: “Actual intelligence made AI” | | 39:05 | “I don’t get stressed…” Stress, emotion, reframing problems | | 44:30 | Relationships trump money; the real value of connection | | 47:23 | Three pillars to getting rich: mindset, skills, habits | | 53:36 | “Show me somebody with a shitty life, I’ll show you somebody with shitty habits.” | | 62:43 | Taking risks and the “roll the dice” metaphor | | 67:13 | Materialism: “None of that matters…” | | 68:19 | What really matters at the end |

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Tone and Style

The conversation is direct, no-nonsense, and conversational, marked by Brad Lea’s blunt but charismatic demeanor. Brad frequently challenges Sean and the audience to reflect more deeply on their own choices, beliefs, and priorities—never shying from controversial or self-critical statements.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a firehose of truth-bombs from Brad Lea, who dismantles excuses for mediocrity and insists that success hinges on self-mastery and conscious decision-making—while also warning about the traps of materialism, the limits of AI, and the ongoing importance of authentic relationships. If you want an unapologetic reminder that you are both your greatest obstacle and your greatest hope, Brad’s message is a must-hear.

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Transcript

[Brad Lea]

You're broke, you chose to be broke. If you're fat, you chose to be fat. Nothing toxic about masculinity. Masculinity, I think, is a little bit undervalued. Truth will set you free. Truth is like poetry. Not everybody likes like. AI is a scam. You use it as a tool, but it's not end all, be all. People think it's gospel. I don't care what chat you he says, you might as well say the Internet says it, because that's where it's getting the information from. It's not actual intelligence, it's artificial intelligence. Who made AI Actual intelligence made AI.

[Sean Kelly]

Brad Lee, one of the great young entrepreneurs in the United States.

[Brad Lea]

Top 25 entrepreneur podcasts in the world. Father of seven, a husband, a philanthropist, an investor, an author, and a true leader.

[Sean Kelly]

You're running multiple eight figure companies. You're working probably 80 hours a week. You don't get stressed ever?

[Brad Lea]

Stress is a condition that people are afflicted with because of their anxiety. I don't get stressed. I was probably three drinks in. We're heading to another bar and I got in the car and the cop pulled behind me and my gut sank. And I'm thinking.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay, guys, we got Bradley back in studio. It's been about a year and a half. It's good to see you again, man. You're playing poker in a couple days too.

[Brad Lea]

Yes, yes, I am.

[Sean Kelly]

I didn't know you were down. Yeah, I didn't know you had that side to you.

[Brad Lea]

Yes, I do. There's a little dark side.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

You hitting the casinos late night behind everyone's back?

[Brad Lea]

Negative. No, I don't really gamble much, but when they invited me, I'm like, you know, thought you had to be a celebrity. They're like, well, you are one. I'm like, how am I a celebrity? I've always. I've always pictured celebrities as movie stars, television stars, you know, rock stars, athletes. Like, you know, social media, I guess, is the new tv. So they invited me and I'm like, dude, I'll happy to play. Not only that, it's like, it's fun. Yep, poker's fun. Especially when you're, you know, not required to. To do anything other than show up and play.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So I think it's going to be a blast.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, the vines covered. You're right, though. Celebrity has changed now. Celebrities are streamers, podcasters, influencers. They're not actors and, and artists anymore. Yeah, it's like more inclusive. Well, they still are, but yeah, now I Feel like podcasters get more views than almost any movie star you can think of.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, well, when I started my podcast, everyone said, dude, everyone's got a podcast. Why would you do it? And I did it anyway. And good thing I did.

[Sean Kelly]

Same with me. I started late. I started two years ago.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, you. I was gonna say you started after.

[Sean Kelly]

Me way later than most people.

[Brad Lea]

You started, but you hustle, dude. You work. You got everybody in their dog in here, you know? You snatched Andrew Tate from me.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, did I?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

You're supposed to come on.

[Brad Lea]

He was supposed to come on. He was coming out here and he said, hey, I had. I have to do this other one. I might not have time. I'll get you next time.

[Guest/Producer]

Oh.

[Brad Lea]

And I'm like, ye know, okay, whatever.

[Guest/Producer]

My bad.

[Brad Lea]

And then I see him on your show. I'm like, dude, I got for Sean Kelly. God damn, my bad.

[Sean Kelly]

I ran into him at Power Slap.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

And got him on. I mean, you got to start going to those events.

[Brad Lea]

I love Little Slap.

[Guest/Producer]

A roof. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Would you ever do that stuff?

[Brad Lea]

Do it? No.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

A million dollars?

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

$10 million?

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

$100 million.

[Brad Lea]

100 million.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

I'd probably take a slap for 100 mil.

[Sean Kelly]

All right. Everyone's got a price, right?

[Brad Lea]

Not 10, though.

[Sean Kelly]

I would do it for 10.

[Brad Lea]

I got 10.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't got 10.

[Brad Lea]

I would not want to worry about getting my dome knocked in. Like, dude, those guys are some power slappers.

[Sean Kelly]

It's scary, some of those fights, seeing them in person. They're knocked out for minutes.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And again, I mean, dude, listen, I'd rather. I'd rather get punched and slapped.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

You look like you could hold your own and fight right now.

[Brad Lea]

Unless they're MMA specialists. Unless they're like, if they're old fashioned fighters, I'll do. Oh, I do. Okay. But if they know MMA or Jiu Jitsu, I'd be. I'd be toast. That's why I started taking a little Jiu Jitsu. I'm starting to roll a little bit.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah. You know, you got to be able to at least hold your own, you know?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

You still won't. If you're up against someone like that.

[Guest/Producer]

Though, I feel that.

[Sean Kelly]

I think it's important to learn a little. Little combat as a man.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Sean Kelly]

Little combat action.

[Brad Lea]

You have to.

[Sean Kelly]

I think so.

[Brad Lea]

Too many betas nowadays.

[Sean Kelly]

A lot of those. There's a lot of.

[Brad Lea]

There's a million of them. And it's. And it's. And it's terrible, dude.

[Sean Kelly]

People reacting Emotionally, Right.

[Brad Lea]

Well, they're just raised improperly. You know, guys that won't pay the bill, you know, for example, you, you, you take a girl out, pay the bill.

[Guest/Producer]

You know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

What if the date goes bad?

[Brad Lea]

You pay the bill and drop her off, thank her for her time.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow. And you drop her off, of course.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a real man right there.

[Brad Lea]

It's a gentle man. Like, listen, I mean, there's. You got to be kind, Sean. You got to be a kind individual. There's too many people out there thinking that everyone's out to get something. That's not always true. There's a lot of good people, I think. But you know, somehow somewhere along the way, old fashioned got thrown out. And this new mentality, you know, some people might call it woke.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

You know, came around and it's like, you know, split the bill, you know, Split the bill. You don't split the bill if you ask a girl out. You pay the bill. If a girl asked me out and I wanted to go, I'm still paying the bill. You know, I'm gonna hold the door. Just old fashioned, I guess is what it's called. But, you know, I'm 100 years old, so that's how I was raised. I'm just hoping that it comes back around. You've heard, you know, good times, you know, make weak men. Weak men. Make or no, something like that. Like hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. So we're in that cycle and it's just a cycle that continues. So I, I, I think, you know, eventually we'll be out of it. That's why you see bell bottoms coming back. You see bell bottoms coming back.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

They are double breasted suits.

[Sean Kelly]

They're here.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Well, again, I'm not going back. I've already done that.

[Sean Kelly]

No, I used to wear the skinny jeans. I used to wear.

[Guest/Producer]

Weird.

[Sean Kelly]

I'm good on that.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So. So if you ask me, there's a lot of beta males that I think they're, they're just unaware that, you know, there's common courtesy, there's basic etiquette, and then there's masculinity. And there's nothing toxic about masculinity. The word toxic. Masculinity is when someone's being arrogant, you know, that's not masculinity. Masculinity, I think, is a little bit undervalued, really, you know. Well, sure. What happens when you need some help? Who you Calling.

[Sean Kelly]

Calling a guy.

[Brad Lea]

Nine times out of ten, dude, if there's five guys outside ready to kick your ass, who you calling? Kylie? Kayla, what's her name?

[Sean Kelly]

Kyla.

[Brad Lea]

Kyla? You calling Kyla? Are you calling a couple dudes?

[Sean Kelly]

I'm calling dudes. Yeah, if I need fixed around the house, I'm calling the guy. For the most part.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. Well.

[Brad Lea]

You know, hey, I'm old fashioned, I guess.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, you said to be kind, but there's a difference with kind and nice, right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Well, if you look up the original definition of the word nice, it actually means stupid.

[Guest/Producer]

Really? Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Brad Lea]

You don't want to be nice.

[Sean Kelly]

Nice guys finish last, I say. I mean, I used to be nice and never got me anywhere.

[Brad Lea]

Really?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. Okay.

[Sean Kelly]

I got no girls. Growing up I was nice to guys, they didn't give a. I mean, now I'm a little more closed off when it comes to that.

[Brad Lea]

Ruthless.

[Sean Kelly]

Someone say I'm ruthless?

[Brad Lea]

You're getting the ladies now.

[Sean Kelly]

I've been with the same girl for eight years. I'm getting married in two months.

[Brad Lea]

Oh, right on.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

So I guess. But I've been with her my whole life, so not really. I got one lady.

[Brad Lea]

Did it change you?

[Sean Kelly]

In what way?

[Brad Lea]

Like being not nice.

[Sean Kelly]

I'm still. She's gonna hate this. I mean, I stand my ground. I have boundaries. You know what I mean? When I'm working, don't interrupt me. I'm in the zone. I'm locked in. You got to set some boundaries.

[Brad Lea]

There has to be boundaries.

[Guest/Producer]

There has to be.

[Sean Kelly]

You're just walking in here every 20 minutes. I'm going to get distracted and not be focused.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. You know.

[Brad Lea]

Is this all you do?

[Sean Kelly]

This is my main thing. Yeah, it's my main thing, man. You're. It's a side hobby for you, but for me it's the main thing.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

You know, the other day I was approached to be on Cameo. And when I say the other day could have been 10 years ago.

[Sean Kelly]

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[Brad Lea]

And so I'm looking on Cameo and I'm looking at all the celebrities, quote, unquote celebrities, and there's real celebrities on there. And, and I'm thinking, you know, because someone said, well, well, what are you. And I said, I don't know. And I'm thinking, you know, what did they call me? A businessman or, you know, an entrepreneur? Like, how am I listed? And, and I went and looked and I was a podcaster.

[Sean Kelly]

So how did you take that?

[Brad Lea]

Well, I'm not a podcaster, although I podcast, so I guess I am one.

[Sean Kelly]

You do have one of the top business podcasts in the world.

[Brad Lea]

It's also like, I don't consider myself an influencer.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't like that word either, but.

[Brad Lea]

I'm influential, I guess so. So, you know, social media influencer. I don't really think so. I'm just on social media. But again, I think it's just a, it's just, you know, conflicting by the way they say it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Because yes, I guess I do have some influence. And yes, I am on social media. So if that's what I'm called, I guess I'll take it. But it's weird to say, you know, oh, he, he, he's a podcaster. But to your point, it's seen a lot. And so that celebratizes you.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And then people put you in that, in that box. But I say I'm a businessman. I mean, I have businesses, bro, brick and mortar, actual businesses that have nothing to do with social media. So, like, if social media shut off, my businesses would feel it because the social media drives people to them. You know, it's free advertising, which is why I think everyone should build a brand.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Personal brand. If you don't have a personal brand, especially with the advent of AI, you're going to be in trouble.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

AI is going to wipe out a lot of jobs. Right.

[Brad Lea]

Well, is you. You won't know who to trust. And a personal brand is building trust so that, that's a valuable commodity and it's going to get even more valuable because no one's going to know what's real and what's not real.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, it's getting valuable. I got an offer on the POD this week. I turned it down, but it was hard.

[Brad Lea]

I got an offer on the pod and it wasn't difficult to turn it.

[Sean Kelly]

Would you ever sell it?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

I mean, for the right price, right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

But, you know, it's, it's the Podcast is. Is lucrative. It's fair.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

The cash flow is nuts.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And it's not difficult.

[Guest/Producer]

It's.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I'll be honest, it's. I do a lot of research on my guests, so I guess you could consider it a full time job, but. Yeah, I spend like 60 hours a week.

[Brad Lea]

What research have you done on me?

[Sean Kelly]

A lot. I got a whole list of stuff.

[Brad Lea]

Let's get into it. Yeah, I'd love to hear the research. I should probably start doing research on.

[Sean Kelly]

My guess you don't do any research on your guests.

[Brad Lea]

No, because I want to discover on the podcast.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

And they don't get disrespected. They don't feel that way.

[Brad Lea]

Doesn't seem so.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

Well done. I think you're just good at talking so you could get by. I don't think most people can pull that off, to be honest. You know what I mean?

[Brad Lea]

I mean, I'm just naturally curious and interested in people. So when someone's on my podcast, I gotta ask questions and have a conversation. I don't have an interview. Like if, if say, hey, Sean, Kelly's coming. Okay, cool. When does he get here? 2 o'. Clock. You walk in, hey, what's up? So. And now we're just having a conversation that happens to be.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Being filmed. And when it's done, hopefully I know more about you. Hopefully we didn't disagree because again, people will know that if I disagree, I'll say it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And you know, again, sometimes that puts people in an awkward situation. But at the end of the day, Sean, in my opinion, truth will set you free. And truth is like poetry. Not everybody likes it.

[Sean Kelly]

I like it. But most people don't.

[Guest/Producer]

I'd argue. Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Truth, man. Sometimes it's. It's hard to hear the truth, especially when you're on the, you know, receiving end of it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

But I prefer the truth. And I think the truth is always the best. You don't have to remember what you said and then add kindness into that, you know, Truth and kindness. I literally believe that people should be more kind to one another. There's always people judging and gossiping and, you know, creating drama.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

When there doesn't need to be any. But ultimately, I think the true power within us all that most people do not realize is a power because it's so innate. It's so obvious. It's. It's, it's very often undetected. And that's the power to choose free will.

[Sean Kelly]

You believe in free will, don't you? To some Extent.

[Brad Lea]

What do you mean, dude? Who makes your choices?

[Guest/Producer]

Me.

[Brad Lea]

That's free will.

[Sean Kelly]

But you don't believe in destiny?

[Brad Lea]

Destiny?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

No, not at all. Well, I mean, maybe. But again, destiny might be some magical thing that happens. But I don't believe that no matter what happens, your plan's already figured out. Otherwise, I'd be in jail. I'd be a blue collar worker, probably working in the forest of Oregon, coming home to my dog and my wife and some kids, you know.

[Sean Kelly]

What would you be in jail for?

[Brad Lea]

Crime.

[Sean Kelly]

Elaborate on that.

[Brad Lea]

Well, I was. You know, when you're not making a lot of money, people tend to think about how to make money, whether it's legal or illegal.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Brad Lea]

And when you're, you know, from a small town, that money's not really abundant. Most people start to think about, you know, how do I get some of that, you know, and ethics come into play. When I was younger, I wasn't as ethical as I am today.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

I think I'm one of the most ethical people walking.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

100.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Brad Lea]

I think I'm as close to angelic as you can get.

[Sean Kelly]

Quite a statement right there.

[Brad Lea]

Yes, sir.

[Sean Kelly]

What makes you feel so strongly about that?

[Brad Lea]

Well, because it's a choice. You know, ethics is a choice. Just like discipline. You think discipline is a personality trait? You think it's a character trait, Discipline?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I think you can learn it.

[Brad Lea]

You choose it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I wasn't disciplined growing up, and now I am.

[Brad Lea]

Because you didn't choose to be.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I was rebellious.

[Brad Lea]

Discipline is a choice. I would debate that with anyone. Discipline is a choice. When you say, oh, I. I don't have discipline, well, again, it's not something that you have or don't have. It's something that you choose or don't choose.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

It's interesting. I know victim mindset's like a big thing. I'm not a fan of that. I used to have that. But there's a lot you can control in life. I'd say no matter how you start.

[Brad Lea]

Well, you can 1000% control your choices.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And that's called free will. And I think it was a gift from the man. And if more people understood its power, I think we'd have a much better world. A lot of people would be more successful. The choice is. Is the power. Give you an example. If I just said something rude and walked out of here, someone comes in and you're pissed off. You know, you had it all set up and I just pissed on it and walked out, you might be Upset and someone says, what's wrong? And you would say what most people would say, not you?

[Sean Kelly]

Nothing. Nothing's wrong.

[Brad Lea]

You'd say, nothing's wrong.

[Sean Kelly]

What do you mean? Like the guy walked out? I guess, yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Most people would blame what happened.

[Guest/Producer]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Brad Lea]

He just came in here and on everyone and left. You know, I'm pissed. Well, if you think about it, who decided to be pissed about it? You did.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So I can't make you mad? Only you can make you mad.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow. Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

You just reshifted my mindset.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So when I wake up in the morning, it's like, I can be fearful, I can be joyful, I can be anything I want to be. And. And really that's the power of choice that most people fail to realize how powerful it actually is. So when I wake up in the morning, I realize one thing. Number one, your frequency is what you frequently see. So if you're constantly focused on the problems, you're going to have more problems. If you're constantly focused on solutions, you're going to find more solutions. It's all proven scientifically and otherwise that you attract what you put out. So. So if I'm positive, I will, I will attract more positive, More positive people, more positive opportunities, et cetera. If I. Because I think, like, opportunities are everywhere, would you agree? Yeah, they're everywhere. Money is not hard to find. Go tell that to somebody with the wrong mindset. They'll be like, no, no, no, dude, you're just saying that because you're this and you're that. No, I'm choosing to look at it that way. I'm in the same world they're in, aren't I?

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Brad Lea]

Me and you are in the same room right now. You could be happy we're in this room and I could be bummed out we're in this room. How can two people be in the same situation? One's happy and one's pissed. Well, it's personal perspective. It's a choice. You know what I mean?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Some people say, you know, if I don't have any money, I'm unhappy. Well, you could choose to be happy with no money. It is possible.

[Sean Kelly]

You think so?

[Brad Lea]

100%.

[Sean Kelly]

You're happy with no money. What if I, at an adult age.

[Brad Lea]

What if I busted in your room, you thought I was going to kill you, I had a shotgun to your head. You know, I'm going to pull the trigger because I'm a stone code killer. And I said to you, sean, I'm pulling the trigger because you don't have any money, brother. You don't need to live anymore. You have zero. You're broke, and you're begging to stay alive. And then I say, okay, fine, I'll let you live. And I leave. You're relieved, you're happy. You still have no money. Why all of a sudden you happy? Well, because you shifted your perspective from freaking.

[Guest/Producer]

Dude.

[Brad Lea]

I was bitching about no money. Now I'm thankful I'm alive. That's just a choice. Yeah, so literally the power of choice, which is the power of free will, which is everyone's gift. If you learn to control that and you start to realize, man, that is a powerful gift, somebody can come up, make you mad. No, they cannot. You can't make me mad. I can only make myself mad.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

I'm the one that decides whether I get mad or not, whether I'm offended or not, whether I'm pissed or happy, whether I'm fearful or. Or joyful.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Sean Kelly]

So would you say you have control over your emotions?

[Brad Lea]

That being said, you don't always have control over your emotions, although I believe that, you know, stoicism and. And. And it's good to have control over your emotions, but emotions, you can't stop. I use emotions as triggers. Other people use emotion to make the decision. So Sean came in. He pissed me off, so I got mad, Right? No, you got mad because you chose to. You chose to be pissed. Only you can choose that, and you chose that. But there's still going to be emotions. Like, sometimes I'll. I'll catch myself getting pissed. And then I ask myself, do I want to be pissed? No, I don't want to be pissed. What do I want to be pissed about?

[Guest/Producer]

Right. So.

[Brad Lea]

So a lot of times, the emotions I just let serve as triggers. Triggers you can't stop. Just like I can't stop you from being a dick. But I can stop me from being pissed off about it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I play a lot of basketball, and it gets to the point where there's fights, and I just. That was never me, man. It never got to that point for me. You know, people's emotions are controlling their actions.

[Brad Lea]

That's right.

[Sean Kelly]

You know that's right.

[Brad Lea]

You just hit it on the head. Now, if more people understood that, people pay attention, okay? Because everyone's got the ability to choose. No one has, you know, forced choices. Choices are made in here. You, I can't get in there. You know, the government's been trying to control our minds for years. They just can't seem to get A hold of them. If they could, don't you think they would?

[Sean Kelly]

I bet they can.

[Brad Lea]

They try. Not everyone, but I think they've tried, like the MK Ultra and all the.

[Sean Kelly]

But don't you think they're planting certain narratives on social media and people are scrolling and digesting it?

[Brad Lea]

Yes.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a form of mind control, right?

[Brad Lea]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

Programming thoughts and beliefs into people.

[Brad Lea]

That's a form of trying to control your mind. I don't think they can. Only you can.

[Sean Kelly]

I guess it depends what you mean by mind control. I think thoughts are being influenced by.

[Brad Lea]

That's influence. Yeah, but again, can I influence you to become gay?

[Sean Kelly]

Yes, I can.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, definitely. Look at how many gay people.

[Brad Lea]

I do have that effect on people. But no, what I'm saying is like, only the individual can decide. Like, for example, I said one time on a stage, you know, sir, who makes your decisions? And he said, my wife. Everyone laughs. He's deciding to let her make the decisions. At the end of the day, we all make our own damn choices. It. That's the bottom line. And the choices we make determine the road we take.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

So if you're broke, you chose to be broke. If you're fat, you chose to be fat. Now it sounds harsh. No, I have a medical condition. Well, again, I'm not talking about every last possible, you know, example in the world is blanketed with this statement. But most people that are not in shape, they're choosing not to be. Yeah, when I was fatter, I chose to be fatter. It wasn't. Well, they're putting shit in our food. Eat different food, you know. Well, I don't have time for the gym. You're not prioritizing the gym. Like, dude, at the end of the day, if someone gets a hold of their ability to make choices and they make good choices, their life will improve, period. Yeah, so it's the fact that most people are unaware that the power is not some magical Marvel comic freaking beam of light that shoots out and all of a sudden you're a superhero. But it is that powerful. Yeah, you just harness your ability to choose and you become aware that, man, the choice is the key. So when I wake up, I choose to be grateful. I don't need, you know, a unicorn to fly up and, and have glitter shoot out of its ass for it to be a good day. Yeah, it's a good day for me, period. The question is, is how good will it get? It's a good day when I open my eyes and realize I get another one right yeah, that's a choice. I could choose to be upset. I could choose to be pissed. People say, well, nothing's going wrong for you. Not in my mind. Why? Well, because, dude, I choose to look at things differently. I see risk as opportunity. Most people see risk and they run, they avoid it.

[Guest/Producer]

They're.

[Brad Lea]

They're trained. We're programmed when we're little to be cautious and careful. And, you know, risk becomes scary.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

To me, I'm not talking about calculated risk. Obviously you want to be calculated and you want to factor things in and use, you know, history to. To help make you a little smarter, to make your choices a little wiser. But at the end of the day, it's a choice. So in the simplest form, where's the power? The power is in the choice. And most people are not making good choices.

[Sean Kelly]

I would say a majority.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

And I think it's also based on their identity, you know, their self image, that you're never going to outperform your own self image.

[Sean Kelly]

Did you have identity issues when you were growing up?

[Brad Lea]

I think so.

[Sean Kelly]

I had a lot of them.

[Brad Lea]

I think we all did. You know, we're all programmed in our societies, in our families. We're all programmed, you know, but I had to unlearn and then relearn.

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Brad Lea]

You know, and then I. And then I started to get a little more confident, and then I started to realize, like, wow, it's not their fault and their fault and, you know, like, the president's fault. It's not the president's fault. It's not your boss's fault, it's not your girl's fault, it's not your dog's fault. It's your fault. And so what are you doing? You're removing victim mentality.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

You see a lot on social media now, people asking chat GPT, if you were the devil, what would you do? Well, I did that like two years ago. The went really viral, by the way. And I asked it if. If you were the devil, what would you do to stop me from succeeding? And it listed out 10 things, and I could identify with all 10 of them. You know, first one was, I'd fill your mind with doubt and fear. And it. And it's not like, you know, you hear this evil voice. We've all heard in our head, that voice. Well, how do we know that's us talking? Who's talking? That's the narrative. That's the story. You know what I mean?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And so I started to realize, like, man, he'd fill my head with doubt and fear. Okay. He'd. He. He'd surround me with negative people and influences. He would, you know, glamorize drinking and partying and the shit that wastes time, and it doesn't do me any favors, you know? He would erode my confidence. He'd whisper things like, you're not good enough. You didn't graduate high school. You shouldn't be here. You know, and all of the things you start to do and. And. Or he would do, you start to realize, like, wait a minute, man. That is what I've experienced. So how do you do the opposite? It's not rocket science.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

If he'd do these things to destroy your ability to succeed, do the opposite of those things, and more than likely you will succeed. And I think anyone can.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't you? I agree.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

There's a really good book Dave Meltzer told me to read. Outwitting the Devil.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

And I'm not even Christian, but I just thought that book was really good.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Learned a lot. Sounds like what you're saying.

[Brad Lea]

I've read it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Solid book, right?

[Brad Lea]

Outwitting the Devil.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Was that Dale Carnegie?

[Brad Lea]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

Who was it? One of the old.

[Brad Lea]

Napoleon Hill. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Napoleon Hill. He's got some bangers, man. Shout out to him. He was way ahead of his time.

[Brad Lea]

Well, most people don't realize that Napoleon Hill based his first book off of Wallace D. Waddles, Science of Getting Rich.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

It was before Think and Grow Rich.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow. I did not know that. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I know. You're. You're big on the Christianity stuff, right? I've seen you talk about it with Pineda.

[Brad Lea]

I wouldn't say big on it.

[Sean Kelly]

It's a big role in your life, though.

[Brad Lea]

Well, I believe that we have a creator, and I believe that his name wasn't Jesus. It was Yahshua. But I do believe that whole thing. Yes, I do.

[Sean Kelly]

Really? Your whole life, or was that sort of later on in life?

[Brad Lea]

Well, I mean, in the beginning, I. I kind of said I believed, but I didn't really believe. I was just a kid being influenced.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

But when you start looking and paying attention, there's no other. There's no other answer.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Sean Kelly]

No other answer?

[Brad Lea]

What. What other could there be? I mean, there's a lotion.

[Sean Kelly]

There's a lot of religions.

[Brad Lea]

Well, again, I think there's truth in all religions. I just think they're fragmented with the truth. Meaning there's truth and, you know, Muslim or.

[Sean Kelly]

Or Hinduism.

[Brad Lea]

Islam. Yeah. Which is Muslim. But at the end of the Day, all the religions, I think there is a, you know, shreds of truth and all of them. But I. But I. But I think at the end of the day, there's a creator. Now, do I believe everything that's written in the Bible? No.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

Man wrote the Bible. And not only that, there's omissions and errors all over it. Not all over it, but there's a lot of errors and omissions. And you go back through and you start comparing and comparing and comparing, and you start to realize there's some inconsistencies. There's some. Hey, wait a minute, like, where's the Book of Enoch? What happened to that? You know, Then there's these scholars. I forget the guy's name.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Wes.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So, you know, I'd love to have him on my podcast.

[Guest/Producer]

You should.

[Sean Kelly]

I had his count as a Billy Carson on mine.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah. Well, I'd like to ask these guys questions because, you know, they've went and studied deeper than I have. But what I've studied, I've come to some questions as to why, and no one can ever answer them.

[Sean Kelly]

Why what?

[Brad Lea]

Well, just certain whys.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Brad Lea]

You know, like, why this? And they can't answer it.

[Guest/Producer]

Huh?

[Brad Lea]

Like, why is his name Jesus? And they say, well, that's the way it's translated.

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Brad Lea]

That'S not true. Yeah, his name was Yahshua, which is translated to Joshua. They changed his name from Yahshua to. To Jesus, which was really in. When they changed it was Isus because there was no J. So they trained. They changed his name very similar to, like, let's say you get a guy from China, he comes over here, and nobody can pronounce the name.

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Brad Lea]

So we. We're just going to call you Bob. That's what they did to him, to Jesus, to. To Yahshua.

[Guest/Producer]

They.

[Brad Lea]

They couldn't pronounce his name in the language they were trying to, you know, translate it to. So they do what's called a transliteration. The transliteration is ultimately to try and get you as close to the name as possible with your, you know, dialect, your language. And there. There wasn't any in that language. So they claim they transliterated to Isus. Well, that's the same as saying, I can't say. So I just say, bob. Yeah, I'm gonna call you Bob. And then, you know, 20 years later, dude, people call you Bob when your name's not Bob. So I don't know is my final answer.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Brad Lea]

I don't know. I don't think anyone knows. But when you start to look and you start to investigate, you realize organized religion isn't the truth.

[Sean Kelly]

Hell, no.

[Brad Lea]

The fact that there's a creator is the truth. Like, dude, we. We did not evolve. We did not come from an amoeba that eventually grew some lungs and then over millions of years, grew some feet, and then one became a giraffe, and one became a lion, and one became a ant, and then one became a bee. Like, come on. Yeah, not possible.

[Sean Kelly]

I like to form opinions because I don't do all the research that West Huff does, but I'll invite these megachurch pastors on my show, and then I'll invite people exposing them the next week, and then that's how I'll sort of form my own opinions on both sides.

[Brad Lea]

Why don't you bring them all together?

[Sean Kelly]

Dude, these pastors will not debate. I've tried to set it up.

[Brad Lea]

That's another.

[Sean Kelly]

They back out.

[Brad Lea]

That's another why I have. Why would. If you know for a fact, why wouldn't you debate. I will debate anybody on things that I am certain about. Yeah, I'd debate anyone.

[Sean Kelly]

Which topics?

[Brad Lea]

Any topic that I was certain about.

[Sean Kelly]

Michael Jordan versus LeBron. Well, Michael Jordan, we went viral for that one. I'll set up some debates for you. But, yeah, these, dude, these pastors, like, we'll literally have a date locked in, and we'll back out the day before. Happened multiple times.

[Brad Lea]

Because you were gonna have other ones on.

[Sean Kelly]

I was gonna have a debate, like, a friendly debate. I never. I try to have a very civil debate setting.

[Brad Lea]

I would love it.

[Guest/Producer]

I would watch that.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, I would watch any program where they had all the religions. Because, dude, all I'm trying to find is the truth, right? Isn't that what everyone wants to know?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that's it. But the money flow is just too damning on their part. I think the way they spend these funds is very incriminating, and they're scared to go public with it. These mega churches, at least. I don't want to speak for all these churches because there's some great churches. But, dude, when you start making tens of millions in donations and you see where it goes to, it's kind of. Kind of disturbing. Have you looked into that trail?

[Brad Lea]

I, I tend not to.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

It's really disheartening.

[Brad Lea]

I, I, but, you know, my daughter got me this so nice, like, walk, Mike. Like Mark Wahlberg says, you know, when they said, are you with so and so, he goes, no, we go to different churches here. He goes, I'm the one with Jesus, baby.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So at one point I asked Chat GPT too. Out of all the religions and all the scientific evidence that's been collected, which one's most likely to be true? It said Christianity.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

I asked it again and he was a witness. And, and like six months later someone was in there and I said watch, watch. And I asked it again and now it doesn't.

[Guest/Producer]

Whoa.

[Sean Kelly]

What did it change it to?

[Brad Lea]

It says, you know, it won't answer. I think AI is a scam.

[Sean Kelly]

How so?

[Brad Lea]

It's, it's number one. It's very patronizing.

[Sean Kelly]

You ever notice that like it's flip flops its opinions.

[Brad Lea]

You're saying 100%, like you can ask it a question and it'll give you an answer and then say, is this the best answer? And it'll say, well, if you want the best answer, it's right here. And you go, you can't do better than that. Well, if you really want to go scorched earth, it's this. So is that the final answer? Is that the best possible answer you can give? Well, if you, you know, it's pretty close, but here's a little better, better of an answer. And it'll just keep doing that. It's, it's, and I've caught it to be wrong, you know, where I'm like, well that doesn't make sense. Because of this, that and their thing, they're like, great, great point. Absolutely.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, it's, it's scraping information from the Internet.

[Brad Lea]

So it's, that's all it is.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, it's not going to be accurate.

[Brad Lea]

It's a, it's a split second researcher.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And, and I try to tell people like AI is just all the information that's on the Internet very, very quickly, so you don't have to do it. So you, you leverage it, you use it as a tool. But it's not end all, be all people think it's got. It's gospel.

[Sean Kelly]

It's not there yet.

[Brad Lea]

You know, Chat GPT says. I don't care what chat GPT says. You might as well say the Internet says it because that's where it's getting the information from. It's not actual intelligence, it's artificial intelligence. And the way I look at it, which one's superior? Well, actual intelligence, who made AI? Actual intelligence made AI. AI has never made. And a human being. So AIs never created life, right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So actual intelligence, which is life, created AI. So right now AI is still superior.

[Sean Kelly]

It's not there Yet. But maybe when it hits AGI, I just filmed at this AI conference, and this guy's bringing back the woolly mammoth. Using AI, he already brought back some little woolly mammoth puppies.

[Brad Lea]

Puppies?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Is that what you call a baby elephant?

[Sean Kelly]

I don't know what he's doing, but he's going to turn elephants into woolly mammoths in, like, four years. By 20, 30, he said.

[Brad Lea]

With AI telling him how to do it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Pretty nuts. His name's Ben Lamb. He's a billionaire.

[Brad Lea]

Well, I think eventually AI might evolve into a, you know, sentient type, where consciousness, it really is like intelligence. Right now, it's quick aggregation of existing content.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So if the. If the content that they're trained on or. Or accessing is false, well, then their answers are false.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And people think it's gospel. I don't even Google anymore, Do you?

[Sean Kelly]

No, I use Traction.

[Brad Lea]

I wonder what Google's gonna do.

[Sean Kelly]

They might be hurting, to be honest, but, yeah, I use Chat, gbt, Perplexity, and Cloud. I have three tabs pinned on my Google Chrome, and I just.

[Brad Lea]

Why do you use them all?

[Sean Kelly]

Because each one has different answers.

[Brad Lea]

Well, why don't you use Magi?

[Sean Kelly]

I haven't tried that one. What is that?

[Brad Lea]

Magi is a dude that I had on my podcast, and he invented one. It's 20 bucks a month. You get the latest and greatest of all of them in one.

[Guest/Producer]

Damn.

[Sean Kelly]

Look at you being a spokesperson for them.

[Brad Lea]

Magi M A G A. I'll try.

[Sean Kelly]

That one because I pay for each one, so that would save me some money.

[Brad Lea]

Well, a lot of people do. And I've had hundreds of people blowing up my DMS going, dude, this Magi is incredible. And all he did was he built the front end. So when you pay for Magi, you literally have Chat, GPT, Grok, Claude, you know, all of them inside of it, and it's the latest and greatest of them all. When they come out with releases, they're automatically upgraded on magi, but definitely get that one. So Magi is a gateway to all of them.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

It's good for coming up with interview questions. You know what I mean? For prep on Guess, Because I don't have time since I filmed 50amonth. I can't read their books and watch their pods sometimes.

[Brad Lea]

Well, I used AI once to ask someone was coming, I forgot who it was, and it spit out some things, and I'm like, so you climbed Mount Everest? And he said, no, I didn't. Where'd you get that? I'm like, oops, I teach you to.

[Sean Kelly]

Happen to me once too.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So it's not always.

[Sean Kelly]

I was like, you were a professional basketball player and the guy was like, no.

[Brad Lea]

So what are the, what are the questions that you've researched and. Or had?

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, I got some good ones. We could go a little. You want to go rapid fire?

[Brad Lea]

I want to hear, I want to hear what kind of research you did. See if it was accurate.

[Sean Kelly]

You said on Savannah Chrisley's podcast last year that you believe therapy is a female thing.

[Guest/Producer]

Yes.

[Sean Kelly]

Was that accurate?

[Guest/Producer]

Yes.

[Sean Kelly]

You don't think guys can go to therapy?

[Brad Lea]

No. I mean, again, at the end of the day, if you have mental problems, you should get help. But therapy, where you just sit there and tell someone your problems. You'll never catch me in therapy.

[Sean Kelly]

So how do you get your problems out there? Like, how do you, I guess, distress from the things you're dealing with.

[Brad Lea]

I don't get stressed.

[Sean Kelly]

You don't get stressed ever?

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

You're running multiple eight figure companies. You're working probably 80 hours a week. You don't get stressed ever?

[Brad Lea]

A. I don't work 80.

[Sean Kelly]

How many hours?

[Brad Lea]

Well, it depends on what you consider work. Is this work?

[Guest/Producer]

Yes.

[Brad Lea]

Okay, then I guess I might work 80. Checking your emails work?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

You're checking for business deals, you're checking for updates.

[Brad Lea]

Well, then I'm. I guess I probably work 16 hours a day.

[Sean Kelly]

Exactly. Because you're working hard. You're working hard.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, but I don't think it's working. I call it living.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay, let's just say your lifestyle is non stop. Like you're always doing something well. You don't get stressed.

[Brad Lea]

No. I think stress personally is, is a, is a condition that people are afflicted with because of their anxiety. This goes back to their choices. I choose not to let it bother me. You can choose not to be stressed.

[Sean Kelly]

Let's say you get served a lawsuit. You don't think that's stressful?

[Brad Lea]

Well, from a physiological perspective, I bet you if you hooked me up, I'd be stressing. I just wouldn't acknowledge it. I don't, I don't realize that it is. Maybe it's because I've been under stress for so long. It's just normal to me.

[Sean Kelly]

You're numb to it.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah. So, I mean, I don't feel like I stress. I don't go. I'm stressing over things. One time I was probably three drinks in, we're heading to another bar and I got in the car I wasn't really intoxicated, but technically I was over, over, over the legal limit, and a copy pulled behind me, and my gut sank. And I'm thinking, oh, I think that's stress, you know, but on occasion, maybe feeling like that once in a while. Okay, but, like, I'm not stressed about problems. I look at problems as opportunities to develop and strengthen and learn and challenge. Like, dude, I see problems as a game. You know, what problems are there? Let's figure out how to solve those. And isn't it fun? Like, you know, I don't look at them as problems like most people do.

[Sean Kelly]

Interesting.

[Brad Lea]

And you listen, I've been three months behind on child support, car payments. You know, I wasn't stressed.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Sean Kelly]

What about, like, what are you gonna do?

[Brad Lea]

What does stress help?

[Sean Kelly]

What does it help with? Yeah, to me, it's a signal.

[Brad Lea]

But what does it help?

[Sean Kelly]

It doesn't help to. To live in stress.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

It actually hurts your health.

[Brad Lea]

Okay, so why stress?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I try not to. I'm just saying I feel like it's inevitable to go through it with our lifestyle.

[Brad Lea]

Well, and that perspective that you have is why that's the truth for you.

[Sean Kelly]

Interesting. Interesting. I don't know. You talk to a lot of billionaires. So do I. I feel like they will admit that they. They are stressed. Like, they have stressful lifestyles.

[Brad Lea]

Well, just because they do, does that mean you have to? No, I don't. And again, I mean, I. If a scientist hooked me up to a machine, they might go, that stress. Oh, I didn't know that was stress. Like, shit, that's. I guess I do stress, but I don't really acknowledge stress.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay.

[Brad Lea]

Like, I get up, I go into my office, there's a problem, there's a situation. You know, I almost get kind of a little bit excited to deal with it, to figure it out. Now, if that's stress, then I guess I'm stressing and I just don't know it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

But to me, I always heard stress is, like, this pressure and this gloom and doom and this anxiety and all this negative pressure. Yeah, I don't feel it.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, yeah, they call it the silent killer, but they never know how to, like, prove it exists. That's the interesting thing with stress. They can't, like, do a body scan and show your stress, Right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So I don't feel it, and so I don't acknowledge it. So when people say, you know, how do you handle the stress? I'm like, I don't really have any. What would stress Me, if I just got a phone call right now and said my daughter's in the hospital, you know, would I be worried? Yeah. Is that stress? Because I, I mean, is it stress? Well then I guess I stress. But to me stress is like this weighted feeling of doom and impending pro, you know, oh, I'm gonna be in trouble or whatever.

[Sean Kelly]

Fair enough.

[Brad Lea]

Maybe it's anxiety I'm describing. I don't know.

[Sean Kelly]

I've had anxiety. I don't see myself ever having it again.

[Guest/Producer]

Why?

[Sean Kelly]

With the mental point I'm at now, I know how to keep it under at bay. But I used to have full on panic attacks when I was younger. Would they feel like terrible heart attacks? They felt like a literal heart attack. Like your chest was exploding.

[Brad Lea]

Do you think it's chemically going on in your brain?

[Sean Kelly]

No, it was all my, my environment and what I was doing that caused it.

[Brad Lea]

You think your mind has anything to do with it?

[Sean Kelly]

100 I manifested it. I was on Xanax and not actually dealing with the issues. I was numbing it.

[Brad Lea]

So once you took control of your mind, you no longer had anxiety?

[Sean Kelly]

Went away.

[Brad Lea]

That's my point.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

My good man.

[Sean Kelly]

No, you're right.

[Brad Lea]

You just made it. And more people need to understand that. Like, like there's people out there, dude. All I, all I really. This is why I say I'm angelic. Because again, I mean, you know, you can read on Reddit and Internet and you know, this guy's a scam, and that guy's a scam. There's people that I know that are called scams. I've never seen them or heard of them scamming anyone, but yet look, on the Internet, they're a scammer. Doesn't make them a scammer. And then I've seen people that I know are full of and scamming people.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And you don't see any news about that. They're just better at hiding it. It doesn't mean they're not scammers. When it boils down to it, what are your intentions and what are your actions on a regular basis? What I do every single day is look to help people. I'm not trying to sell you. I'm trying to help you. Now people say, well, Brad, you sold this, this and this and this. I'm not saying I won't sell people my mind. My energy is not about. I need to sell you so I can pay my bills. I need to help you. Coincidentally, I will get paid by doing that. Because if you really want to be a millionaire. Just solve a million problems for people, charge a dollar each. So at the end of the day, helping people is a better energy. If you ask me, and a lot of people ask what real, you know, what's with the real R is for relationships. Relationships are the most important thing when it boils down to it. If I said, this is your last day, Sean, are you going to be sitting here interviewing me? Probably not. Where would you be? What would you want to do? Because if you think about it, and most people actually think about it, they're going to say, I'm going to be with my family. I want to be with my. My wife and my kids for the last day. What would you do? I would just sit there and talk to them and. And be with them. How much does that cost? Nothing. Then why are you so worried about all this money that you need? You know, because at the end of the day, relationships are what matter. And coincidentally, relationships are where money comes from. So if you really want more money, start valuing more relationships. The more hands you shake, the more money you make. When we're born, we require relationships or we won't survive. When we die, we desire relationships, but in the middle, we forget how valuable they are. So R is for relationships. That is the most important thing. Money is not as important as a relationship. Then E, that's your energy. You know, energy could be your health, it could be your mindset, it could be your beliefs, you know, your energy. What is your energy? Are you. What are your intentions? Energy is critical because you attract the energy that you put out. So if you're pessimistic and you have a negative energy, people can sense that. People can feel that. So your energy is massively important. And then the A is for affluence. If you look up the definition of affluence, trust me, we all want it. And then l. I just recently changed it from. From lifestyle to leadership, because you're not going anywhere by yourself, which circles back to relationships. You know, I. I probably would have been a billionaire, legitimate billionaire already, had I understood what I understand now.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

For sure.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

So you didn't value relationships when you were younger?

[Brad Lea]

I didn't value leadership. I didn't value relationships. I didn't understand energy. I wanted affluence, but. But I didn't understand what got it. And what gets it is relationships, energy and leadership. If you. If you focus on three key areas to be financially, at least successful. Because just because you're rich doesn't make you successful, right? Not in my book, I agree. So. But if you want to be financially, because most people think success is money. So if you want some money, I'll give you three pillars that if you focus on those and you master those, you will be rich for sure. Number one, your mindset. Number two, your skill set. Number three, your habits. So if you suck, you're not probably going to do very well. If you have shitty habits, you're probably not going to do very well. If you have a negative piss poor mindset, you're probably not going to do very well. But if you have a killer mindset, abundant mindset, you have killer skills and you have killer habits, it is almost impossible that you will not be extremely well paid, period. Show me an example of that where they're not extremely paid. Who gets paid the most? The best. The best basketball players get paid more. Okay. The, the best artists, the best salespeople, the best podcasters, the best. Every thing usually gets paid more than the ones that aren't the best. Now what, who, who's defining what best is? Well, again, depending on what you're doing, the best plumber might not be the richest because no one knows them well. The best is always beat by the best known. So marketing, that's a skill set, right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Building a personal brand, that's a skill set. This show and how you put it all together, that's a skill set. I watched you do it, I knew exactly what you were doing. I'm like, that, dude, freaking is putting it together and pretty soon, next thing you know, dude, everyone that's coming on my podcast, you know, I'm going to Sean Kelly, some just caught up, like nothing. Well, dude, that's a skill set, right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

So depending on what you're trying to do in life, got to get your skills right, you got to get your habits right, and you got to get your mindset right. If you get those three right, boom, dude, you're, you're paid facts.

[Sean Kelly]

I love what you said about best known is, is better than best because especially in the music industry, right? It's not the most talented artist. That's, that's the best. Usually the one that has the best marketing, the best team behind them with some talent.

[Brad Lea]

Well, those are skills. That's why you need all three. Because if you have a really good mindset, right, and you suck, you're just going to be running positively in the wrong direction.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

You know, you're going to run around all happy about sucking. You know, you got to get good.

[Sean Kelly]

Those are like the a Students.

[Brad Lea]

But the problem with, with getting good is most people don't have the right mindset in order to get good. Because if you understand abundance and possibility and optimism, then you realize man skills are just a matter of practice. You got to practice, drill, and rehearse. Most people won't practice, drill, and rehearse long enough because their mindset sets in and says, this ain't working. How do you know it's not working? Well, because I'm not rich yet. Okay, so you don't have patience. You're, you're. It's. It's ultimately the mindset. Like you're giving up is what you're doing. And the right mindset, they don't give up. They make a decision. They move towards their goals and they achieve them. So mindset, abundance, positivity, optimism, belief, self image, confidence, all of that is mindset. If you have that but you're not very good at something, you're probably not in a very ideal situation. So now get the mindset right, and then go figure out what skills you need to do what you want to do. You know, I suggest sales. I don't know anybody financially successful that isn't selling something to somebody. So if you're out there and you do not have any way to get paid from sales, I personally would tell you, step one, get in the position to receive commission. Now someone says, well, is that me? I don't know. Is it like, you know, a bartender? They're getting tips. Is there any way to make commission? No, dude. Who's getting rich? The bartender or the guy that owns the bar? The guy that owns the bar. What's he doing? He's selling alcohol. Okay, the bartender is serving alcohol. Get in the position to receive commission. That would be skill set number one. Skill set number two would be relationship building, finding, attracting, and nurturing relationships. Networking. People call it get good at building relationships. Okay, that would, That's a skill, by the way. AI. How to leverage AI. That's a skill. And everybody better pay the attention. Marketing is a skill. Like I hire marketers. Well, again, if you want to be held hostage to a bunch of people, then don't learn it. But learn marketing. Get really good at marketing. Personal branding. Get good at personal branding. And then communication. You know, words matter. The words that you're using make all the difference in the world. Even in just life, the words matter. The way you talk about yourself, they matter. If you think words in your head, those are words. I didn't say anything. I didn't say audible. If you think about yourself, you are destroying opportunity. You're damaging your self confidence, your self worth, your identity at the end of the day. And you're never going to outperform your own self image. So if you really want to make more money, man, you have to become more valuable. How do you become more valuable?

[Sean Kelly]

Skill sets.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And then the, the last one's your habits. Because if you're really positive and you're really talented, but you do coke all day and, and, and you know, bang hookers, you're probably going to have some issues too. So then you got to look at your habits. What do you do every day? You show me somebody with a shitty life, I'll show you somebody with shitty habits. That's a fact. It's, it's, you know, it's one of those truth that people don't like because there's going to be people listening to this that maybe are down and out right now and they're going to blame other people. That's a victim mentality.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Brad Lea]

You can't have that. That's a mindset issue.

[Guest/Producer]

Right?

[Brad Lea]

It's always mindset, skill set, habits. It's always going back to those. I talk to people all day long about things. When they tell me, well, my mom, she didn't love me, okay, first of all, maybe she did, maybe she didn't. What's that got to do with anything?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, they do blame the mother and the father.

[Brad Lea]

They blame everything. That's called a victim mentality. It's poor me. It's like, dude, you got to lose the victim mentality. And you got to realize that if it's going to be, it's up to me, you know, that's mindset. Go get books on mindset, study mindset, implement some of the things you learn. Think, which is most people don't do. I heard someone say the other day, if everybody said what they were thinking about, it would be silent.

[Sean Kelly]

If everyone said what they would thinking.

[Brad Lea]

About, meaning nobody's thinking, oh, okay. The bottom line is mindset is a, is a big area. I would start there because if you don't have the right mindset, you're never going to get the skills, more than likely. And if you don't get the skills, you're going to allow these habits and these influences and these things to get in the way and you're just screwed your whole life. So I always tell people, start with the mindset, man. Go get some confidence, build your self worth, build your self image, change your identity. You know, be before you become get this set. Once that's set, then go get good at something. Whatever it is you want to be. You know, get really, really, really good at it. If. If you practice 10, 000 hours at anything, you're probably in the top 5% of the entire world at least.

[Sean Kelly]

Probably top 1%.

[Brad Lea]

But I'm not doing it for 10,000. That's like five years. 10 years. What is that? You know, I don't have that kind of time. That's a mindset issue. That's limited. That's scarcity. So abundance, scarcity, big difference. That's mindset. So it always goes back to one or the other. And every time someone comes up to me and says, brad, I want to get rich, I always say, mindset, skill set, habits.

[Guest/Producer]

Well, what.

[Brad Lea]

What skills do I need? Sales, personal branding, marketing, communication, relationships. And now I just go master those. Even I alone will get you rich. But if you go all six, dude, you're unstoppable. These are the skill sets that I possess. And, dude, I'm making millions of dollars, and I don't deserve it.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, that's a statement right there. You don't deserve it.

[Brad Lea]

Hell no.

[Sean Kelly]

Don't you feel like you put in the work, you put in the effort?

[Brad Lea]

Hell no. Not. I get way overpaid. Really, dude? You kidding me?

[Sean Kelly]

But you're putting in.

[Brad Lea]

I dropped out of school at 16.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, but school doesn't mean you're going to make money.

[Brad Lea]

Come on, where's your bomb? You better say that again. But the point is, I am overpaid. Like, dude, I get paid 50 grand. I'm about to move it to 100 to go talk.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Brad Lea]

An hour on a stage. They used to tell me to shut up in school. Now they're giving me 50 grand to talk. And then I say, what do you want me to talk about? You know what they say? Anything, whatever you want. I'm like, you're going to give me $50,000 and airfare and a hotel and whatever else just to go talk, and I can say whatever I want. They're like, yeah, just do you. So why are they doing that? Why am I getting $50,000 to talk? That is overpaid, bro. I am not saying anything that miraculous. But what I am doing is I'm reminding people and I'm inspiring people, and I'm shifting perspectives, and that is worth money. Because if I can get a sales team to look at things just a little bit differently and their revenue goes through the roof, that's why they're Willing to pay it.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

And what I do is I keep things simple. I'm not up there to show you how smart I am. I don't use big fancy words and try to convince you that I'm an expert. I tell people the opposite. Like, I'm no expert. This isn't rocket science. Success isn't difficult. If somebody said, brad, I want to be successful, I'll do exactly what you tell me. I can guarantee they'll be successful.

[Guest/Producer]

Really? Wow.

[Brad Lea]

100.

[Sean Kelly]

Anyone?

[Brad Lea]

Anyone?

[Sean Kelly]

You don't think there's like an IQ limit you need or some sort of intelligence?

[Brad Lea]

Nope. Dude, it's proven. There's, there's no, there's no rich stupid people.

[Sean Kelly]

There's a lot of those.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

You don't need to be extremely smart. Extremely anything. Some people say, Brad, it's easy for you to say because you're like rich and good looking. And I say, and I say, I haven't always been rich.

[Sean Kelly]

You had to throw in the good looking there.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, well, that's what they want to say about me. They think it's easy for me because I'm rich and good looking. They say, now again, I know there's plenty of women, especially now that I'm getting older, they don't agree. So again, good looking is a, is a, is an opinion. That's just a subjective thing. I'm sure there's some that do and there's some that don't. So am I. Depends on who you ask. Right?

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

That's subjective. That's not the truth. I'm good looking. That's not the truth. The truth is, is it depends on who you're talking to. I could be ugly to some. So at the end. And you know, sometimes I look in the mirror and I think I'm ugly. Especially, especially now you're like, I'm starting to get the fricking neck. And it's like, you know, I'm looking, I'm like, dang, dude, I'm looking old. But, but I am old. You know, I'm looking good for my age, I believe. But you know, we're all going to get old. That's another thing. People see these old people walking around, they're like, oh boy, that guy's old. Dude, I hope that I'm old someday.

[Guest/Producer]

Why?

[Brad Lea]

Why do you not want to be?

[Sean Kelly]

Not right now. I want to be as young as I can right now. I want to be.

[Brad Lea]

We're not talking about right now. Do you Hope to be 90 years old someday?

[Sean Kelly]

Well, I want to live that long?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't want is different.

[Brad Lea]

No, dude, I want to be an old man that everybody says, wow, look how old he is now. Do I want to have quality of life? Of course I do. Am I going to stay active? Yes. Because I think when you see those old people walking like this, it's because they stopped walking. Like, you got to stay active. You got to stay moving. You got to try and hopefully with society now and the, and the, and the science that we have now, I might never look older than I do right now, ever. Well, I hope that's the case. I hope one day. When you say, Brad, how old are you? Eight, 873, I think. Wow, you look great for 873. My friend just turned a thousand two. Like that would be great if modern science can, can allow us to live forever. But imagine if you had to live forever. Can you afford to? Because a lot of people, they can't afford to live 80 years. How are they going to afford to live 800?

[Sean Kelly]

It's a good point.

[Brad Lea]

Well, the longer they live, the longer they learn. And eventually, I think everyone would eventually figure it out. And it's just something that I've already figured out. You apparently have figured it out. There's other people that just haven't figured it out yet. And they're going to find out the hard way or the easy way? The easy way is come ask me. Come ask you? Go ask people how they did what they did and then do what they did. And I'll bet you you end up with close or, or, or maybe even more than what they got.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Because if everyone did what I did, they'd have just as much or more than I have.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

Sure.

[Guest/Producer]

You know?

[Sean Kelly]

You don't think so if they did exactly what you did? No, because I think there's times where, like what you did in the past, for example, wouldn't work now. Like what? Like markets get saturated. Like, if I invest in crypto now compared to when it came out 10, 20 years ago, I'm not going to make the same returns you did.

[Brad Lea]

You may not make the same returns, but isn't there a new crypto AI? I guess what I did is I took a risk.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

So I guess, yeah, the mindset trigger. Yeah, the mindset I agree with. I think, I think the industry's changed.

[Brad Lea]

But yeah, yeah, I rolled the dice. Okay. Most people, they don't roll the dice, they just shake the dice. You know what I mean?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

You ever, you ever just shake the dice but never roll it yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Played craps.

[Brad Lea]

Like, pretend you're rolling dice right now. No, don't, don't let it go. Just shake it. Yeah, yeah, just keep shaking the dice. What are you doing?

[Sean Kelly]

Just shaking it.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, you're just, you're just shaking it.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Brad Lea]

You got to let it go. You got to roll the bastards for anything to happen. Otherwise you're just sitting here doing this for days. And pretty soon you realize like, dude, this ain't getting me nowhere.

[Sean Kelly]

I give that up, I gave up.

[Brad Lea]

You got a frickin roll those bones.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And most people are afraid of the. Of the potential risk. What if I go broke? You're broke now. What if I go broke? Well, then pick up the dice again. That's another thing. I'm not necessarily afraid to, to go broke. Are you?

[Sean Kelly]

No. Because I've been broke twice already.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, well, I was broke longer than I've been rich. And let me tell you something, wasn't that bad. Matter of fact, I enjoyed it. I didn't enjoy being broke, but when I was broke, I still had fun. I still was enjoying my life. So at the end of the day, it's what you make it. So there's people out there that have no money and they're comparing themselves to someone who does and their life is miserable because they can't catch a break. And they can't get that right. When in reality there's someone that, that they don't have money, but they don't have their health either. And this guy's completely healthy. And this person wishes they were this broke person. Just no health issues. They just wish they, they're fine with no money. They just want to get rid of this illness.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And then there's someone down the line that's wishing they were that person. You know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. It's all relative.

[Brad Lea]

It's always, I just need more. I just want something I don't have. And that's where people screw themselves.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Brad Lea]

The trick, I believe, is to not necessarily, you know, have what you want. It's to want what you have.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

A lot of people tie their identity to materialism in America.

[Brad Lea]

Sure do.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I used to.

[Brad Lea]

I still do.

[Sean Kelly]

I still do a little bit, but I used to.

[Brad Lea]

I do like these glasses.

[Sean Kelly]

What is that, Gucci?

[Brad Lea]

Louis. But I mean, they just look good. But again, that's just another pair of cheap ass sunglasses with a brand on it. Yeah, like, dude, big deal. Now do they look, do they make me look like a freaking pimp?

[Sean Kelly]

I think you look good enough.

[Brad Lea]

Look at those back, I should have wore them the whole time.

[Guest/Producer]

Hey, Joe.

[Brad Lea]

Yeah, like, hey, look at me. Enough about me. What do y' all think about me? But in reality, I'm still kind of like a dumbass when it comes to that, you know, Golden Goose shoes, they come beat up. They're 700 beat up shoes. But at the end of the day, why do I buy them? Well, because they're cool. It shows that I'm successful when in reality I'm getting a little bit to the point where now it's like I almost don't care anymore.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

I still do have style though. In other words, like if, if they had a shoe that was $50 and it looked good and it felt good, maybe. It just so happens all the I've been buying to make myself feel like I'm successful happens to be good looking.

[Guest/Producer]

A little bougie.

[Brad Lea]

Well, no, it's just, you know, it's quality. Yeah, I think it is.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, that's your brand, you know, you're built on quality, so it makes sense.

[Brad Lea]

Well, and not only that, it's like, you know, I'd rather have one pair of quality shoes than five pair of shitty shoes.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

So I always tell people like, you know, it doesn't need to be expensive, it just needs to be quality.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

And you know, when it comes to Louis and some of these brands that are get, it's basically the same leather. It's the same everything. You're buying the brand and why are you really buying that? So everyone else will think I'm cool. Yeah, I don't do that. I don't do it. So you think I'm cool? I do it because I think I'm cool. You know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

There's a difference.

[Brad Lea]

I think so.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

You don't care about other people's opinions.

[Brad Lea]

Correct. So like, you know, some people think, you know, this watch is too small. Some people like those big ass watches. Like, dude, that's a badass.

[Sean Kelly]

What is that, a rolly?

[Brad Lea]

That's a meteorite Daytona.

[Sean Kelly]

Nice.

[Brad Lea]

So again, to me it's like, dude, that's the watch. Now if that was a Timex, that's still the watch, bro. Look at it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, it's beautiful.

[Brad Lea]

It's freaking awesome. So to me it's like, it's not because it's a Rolex that I want it. So you think it's cool. It's. It just happens to be a Rolex that I think's cool. I wish I, I wish all the money I've Blown on name brand stupid. Especially cars. I wish a Hyundai looked like my Ferrari. I wish a freaking Toyota drove like my Rolls Royce. Because I'd have a Toyota and a Hyundai, but they don't makes sense. So I gotta go get the expensive. So that's why I'm still stuck in that stupidity. But when it really boils down to it, Sean, none of that matters. It really doesn't. Because if I was gonna die tomorrow, I don't want to see my cars one more time. I want to see my kids one more time. You know what I mean? People matter. And at the end of the day when you, when you really take a look at it, most people are struggling for all this money and, and, and. And material things only to realize they ignored their entire. What was really important the whole time to get the. That isn't important.

[Guest/Producer]

Yup.

[Sean Kelly]

I almost lost my marriage over chasing materialism. Seven watches, nice cars, mansion and almost lost her, you know, because I was so busy chasing that stuff.

[Brad Lea]

Well, there'd have been another one.

[Sean Kelly]

Would have been. But it would never be the same because I met her when I was broke. Bro, you can't. You can't replicate that ever.

[Brad Lea]

Yes you can. No, dude, listen. My dad used to tell me if you missed the 8:30, don't worry, the 8:45 will be around any minute.

[Sean Kelly]

You can't recreate it. I disagree. Well, think about it.

[Brad Lea]

We will. We will disagree. Is that your first one?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, first and only. I've only been.

[Brad Lea]

Maybe you're. Maybe you're very lucky.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't believe in luck, but yeah, some could call it that.

[Brad Lea]

Well, again. Or you're very grateful for her. She. Gratitude matters. And I'm not saying that you guys don't have that. I'm. That'd be awesome. But what I know is every time I get rid of one, I get a better one.

[Sean Kelly]

Because you have that abundance attraction.

[Brad Lea]

Well, because the next one's better.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

You know, I'm not going to. I'm not going to get the next one and have it. I'm not going to go backwards.

[Sean Kelly]

You're attracting high quality woman is what I'm saying. Like most guys aren't operating like the up.

[Brad Lea]

I believe that if you lost your girl, you'd still be with another one and you would love her more than you did the last one.

[Guest/Producer]

Really?

[Brad Lea]

Of course.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

That is. That is crazy to me. I don't know. I don't think so, dude.

[Brad Lea]

Of course, dude.

[Sean Kelly]

No shot.

[Brad Lea]

And, and, and for her too.

[Sean Kelly]

We're in Vegas.

[Brad Lea]

And for her too. Yeah, that's what sucks is we don't want to think about. Our women will be happy without us. Yeah, they probably would be eventually. Now again, to me, I'm pretty rare. I think I'm a frickin catch. Don't cheat. I don't freaking play games like, you know, I might be. Trust me, I've got my problems. But, but as far as like what most guys are doing out there.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Someone with your status, that's super rare.

[Brad Lea]

And dude, she has no worries about infidelity. Like I don't care who it is, there's no cheating. Why? Because I don't believe it's cheating on her. I believe it's cheating on me.

[Guest/Producer]

Wow.

[Brad Lea]

And so at the end of the day, no one's going to get me to cheat on myself. I like myself. I do not hate myself. Cheating is, is destroying self confidence, it's destroying self worth. It's, it's contradictory to my belief system. Now, now again, hasn't always been that way, but to me that's a rare guy to find.

[Sean Kelly]

Super rare.

[Brad Lea]

And, and money. Okay. And decent. In shape and you know, blessed in, in other areas. Not over blessed, but I'm fine. So, so again, I'm a good catch as, as it, as you would say. But if we, if her and I ended up getting a divorce or you know, she's gonna find some other dude, that's great. Right. Now again, according to me, never as good as me. But that's especially when they're like, no one's going to treat you like I treated you. The next ten of them will. You know, if you'd have lost the relationship, trust me, you would have found another one and you probably would agree that the next one's better. Like show me someone who says, yeah, the one I'm with ain't that great. My last one was better because then I'd ask why are you with the one you're with?

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

Well, because I'd be single first.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Brad Lea]

Like if I've never found a better one, I would never have gotten with another one.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, people go for rebounds and stuff, dude.

[Brad Lea]

I ain't talking about banging chicks, you know, you know, I might, you know, break up with a 10 and bang at 8, but at the end of the day I'm not going to marry her.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[Brad Lea]

I'm looking for another 10 or better and better fit, you know, better personality, I don't know. But at the end of the day, I've never personally, I've never personally went backwards. Yeah, and I don't think you would have, either. I think you think you would have, but you wouldn't have.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, we got to wrap up, man. This has been a blast. Good luck in the poker tournament this Saturday. Anything else you want to close off with? No dropping bombs. Guys, check out his pod. Thanks for watching. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests, and it helps us grow the team. Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting. And here's the episode.