Brandi Love: Why Fans Saved Her After the Accident | DSH #1706

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Brandi Love: Why Fans Saved Her After the Accident | DSH #1706
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Brandi Love
Date: December 25, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Sean Kelly sits down with adult entertainer Brandi Love to discuss her traumatic boating accident, the role her fans played in her recovery, her approach to faith and marriage, controversies around the adult industry, the politics of modern America, and her shifting views on boxing versus UFC. Brandi is unfiltered and open, offering both humor and depth as she shares personal stories, industry insights, and her perspectives on resilience, hypocrisy, and living authentically.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Boating Accident and Its Aftermath

Timestamps: [00:38] – [07:50]

• Incident Details:

  • Brandi recounts a near-fatal accident in Greece, where a 75-foot yacht propeller severely injured her leg while she was 50 miles offshore, calling it “very traumatic” and “life or death.”
    • “My leg was basically looked detached from my body.” ([00:45], Brandi)

• Physical and Mental Recovery:

  • Spent months bedridden, with her professional life put on hold at its peak.
  • Required ongoing physical therapy.
  • “For two months, I was ambulatory. I couldn't get out of bed, I couldn't walk...I have to adjust my business life, my physical life.” ([02:09], Brandi)
  • Describes the lingering psychological trauma, like struggling to sleep due to reliving the accident.

• Impact on Perspective:

  • The experience drastically shifted her outlook:
    • “In a moment, your entire life flashes before you...your perspective on everything you thought you knew changes.” ([01:42], Brandi)

• Role of Her Husband:

  • He was not with her in Greece, which was “beyond devastating,” but managed her medical evacuation and supported her from afar.
    • “It's the one person you want [by your side]...Mentally, yes, [but] once I knew I was stable...we just had to get me home.” ([07:25], Brandi)
  • The couple has been together over thirty years, with Brandi describing their relationship as growing stronger through adversity.

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2. Fan Community as a Lifeline

Timestamps: [04:35] – [05:47]; [13:43] – [14:32]

• Emotional Support & Engagement:

  • Brandi credits her fans for helping her stay sane during recovery:
    • “My fans stepped up in ways that I can never thank them for...they were supportive and loving.” ([05:36], Brandi)
  • She became more engaged with fans than ever, texting, sexting, doing photo shoots, and going live from her hospital bed.

• Professional Direction Post-Injury:

  • Renewed focus on giving back to fans and prioritizing her marriage.
  • Customs and personal content (including JOIs and literotica) now constitute about 80% of her business.

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3. Authenticity, Resilience, and Relationships

Timestamps: [08:03] – [09:37]; [19:39] – [21:13]

• Marriage & Soulmates:

  • Brandi describes her marriage as a lifelong partnership that survived her accident and the challenges of her career.
    • “Our love is...only grown deeper. All the bullshit life will throw at you—when you survive it with your mate, you just get stronger.” ([08:36], Brandi)
    • “When you meet somebody who makes you better...it's a soulmate.” ([19:47], Brandi)

• Balance & Life Choices:

  • Discusses starting her adult career eight years into marriage and how being “boxed in” by others’ judgments never worked for her.

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4. Adult Industry, Custom Content & Fan Service

Timestamps: [09:39] – [17:19]; [13:43] – [17:19]

• Career Evolution:

  • Entered the industry at a later age and embraced the label “MILF” as a badge of honor.
    • “I remember when the word MILF came out because of American Pie...I embraced that word. I loved it.” ([09:39], Brandi)
  • Over 7,500 custom videos created for fans, which she finds highly personal and rewarding.

• Specialization & Boundaries:

  • Says no to requests she isn’t comfortable with; “Everybody should have a line.”
  • Her popular requests center around oral skills and “jerk off instructions” (JOI), as well as classic MILF/stepmom scenarios.

• Male-Dominated Fanbase & Learning from Fans:

  • Most interactions are with men, though she welcomes female fans.
  • Learns about new trends and lingo from fans: “You're never too old...I have to go look it up. What is that?” ([17:19], Brandi)

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5. Views on Sex, Mental Health, and Orgasm

Timestamps: [17:53] – [18:06]; [48:27] – [51:56]

• Sex Drive After Trauma:

  • Mental recovery preceded physical; a supportive relationship helped maintain intimacy despite challenges.

• The Role of Orgasms:

  • Advocates for regular sexual release for happiness and even pain relief:
    • “You can't be angry when you have an orgasm.” ([49:43], Brandi)
    • “I don't get why people are so pissed about sex.” ([49:52], Brandi)

• Views on Semen Retention and Edging:

  • Skeptical of long-term abstinence as healthy, sees it as about control rather than wellness.

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6. Faith, Religion, and Hypocrisy

Timestamps: [20:02] – [25:20]

• Christian but Not Religious:

  • Values personal spirituality over organized religion, citing judgmental attitudes from some Christians due to her profession:
    • “There’s a section of Christianity and even politics, that far right wing, that doesn’t care for people like me...can be a little bit Pharisee, like.” ([20:02], Brandi)

• On Being Judged and Misunderstood:

  • Stresses grace over judgment, and argues against biblical literalism used for condemnation.
  • Dislikes hypocrisy among religious and feminist critics alike:
    • “If you’re for women empowerment...then you have a group of women, adult entertainers, hugely in control...but feminists come after us for doing porn. Why?” ([24:29], Brandi)

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7. Social Media, Free Speech, and Political Division

Timestamps: [27:13] – [34:38]

• Online Debates & Pushing Buttons:

  • Enjoys stirring conversations on social media to provoke thought:
    • “I make statements just to push buttons. I’m poking the bear. Cause I want a conversation.” ([27:13], Brandi)

• Politics, Labels & Authenticity:

  • Identifies as “right of center,” but values open discussion with people who disagree.
  • Dislikes the polarized climate—political labels and bumper stickers cause division.
  • “People let their feelings run their life...Feelings are real, but they shouldn’t run your life.” ([31:35], Brandi)

• Her upbringing was conservative, influenced by family legacy and figures like Rush Limbaugh (whom she calls “the greatest teacher I’ve ever had”).

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8. Debates on the Adult Industry and Conservative Critics

Timestamps: [34:38] – [39:43]

• Conservative Push to Ban Porn:

  • Finds the “ban porn” trend among some conservatives hypocritical and click-driven:
    • “You guys are conservatives, and you’re trying to take away my freedoms and my liberties to choose the career I chose. Are you mad because I’m successful?” ([37:08], Brandi)
  • Argues for personal responsibility and makes the analogy to other adult freedoms (alcohol, gambling).

• The Hate and the Industry:

  • Notes significant online hate but calls for more unity and professionalism within the adult industry itself.

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9. Technology, AI, and Deepfakes

Timestamps: [41:04] – [42:29]

• Deepfakes & AI Concerns:
  • Has already seen deepfakes of herself in bogus ads.
  • Remains unconcerned that AI will ever truly replace human performers:
    • “Humans have a soul...my fans are like, she’s neat [the AI], but I want you.” ([41:42], Brandi)
  • Sees the real value in connection and authenticity, not just visual content.

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10. The Death of Boxing and Rise of UFC

Timestamps: [52:59] – [56:14]

• Disillusionment with Boxing:
  • Laments the move from “pure boxing to entertainment,” citing events like Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fights:
    • “It just became to me a debacle...It went from pure boxing to entertainment.” ([55:06], Brandi)
    • “This might be the first time I’ve said boxing might be dying.” ([55:38], Brandi)
  • Now prefers UFC for its authenticity and realness.
    • “Because it’s real...You can’t fake that.” ([56:06], Brandi)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Surviving Trauma:

  • “I just kept telling myself...do not fall asleep. I am not dying on this boat.” ([03:55], Brandi)

• On Fan Support:

  • “I want to give [the support] back tenfold.” ([05:45], Brandi)

• On Hypocrisy in Politics & Religion:

  • “If you’re going to make a statement, keep it that way. Quit being hypocrites.” ([26:07], Brandi)

• On Authenticity:

  • “That word for me is everything. Authenticity is gold. It’s the greatest currency, and if you don’t have it, you’re broke.” ([47:02], Brandi)

• On Professional Identity:

  • “I’m a conservative, but I’m a porn star, but I’m a Christian, but I’m a mom... I get one go at this life. I’m gonna do it my way.” ([29:43]; [31:16], Brandi)

• On Orgasm’s Benefits:

  • “You can't be angry when you have an orgasm. You got a headache? Orgasm relieves it. Can't sleep? Orgasm will do it.” ([49:43], Brandi)

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Important Timestamps by Segment

• Trauma Story & Recovery: [00:38] – [07:50]
• Marriage & Relationship Insight: [07:50] – [09:37], [19:39] – [21:13]
• Adult Industry & Fan Customs: [09:39] – [17:19]
• Faith & Religion: [20:02] – [25:20]
• Political Division & Authenticity: [27:13] – [34:38], [31:35] – [33:32]
• Industry Criticism & Free Speech: [34:38] – [39:43]
• AI & Deepfakes: [41:04] – [42:29]
• Boxing vs UFC: [52:59] – [56:14]

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Final Thoughts

Brandi Love’s episode is a mix of gritty resilience, industry candor, political observation, and good-natured humor. Her story of survival, coupled with her loyalty to fans and frank takes on current controversies—from AI deepfakes to sexual taboos and culture wars—make this episode both inspirational and thought-provoking. Whether discussing trauma, marriage, or the state of boxing, Brandi’s authenticity and openness shine through.

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Where to Find Brandi Love

“All my legitimate platforms and social media can be found at brandylove.com. I am always on my OnlyFans, Minx, Cameo—those are my jam.” ([56:21], Brandi)

Transcript

[A]

I remember the word came out of American Pie. Thank you. It, like, defined my career. And when they kissed, Stifler's mom's photo on the wall and started calling her, I swear to God, in that moment, I went. I knew it happened. My career forever was going to be changed. And I embraced that word. I loved it. I think I was in my mid to late 30s when it happened. I was like, hell, yeah. W.

[B]

Okay, guys, Brandy Love here today. I'm glad we could finally make this happen.

[A]

I know you're a very busy man.

[B]

You, too. Plus, you went through a major health incident, so.

[A]

Yeah. That put a damper on things, but I'm here to tell it.

[B]

Yeah. What was. So that was in Greece, that incident, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was like a life or death kind of thing.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it. It was a. We're 50 miles offshore when it happened. There's no helicopter back to pull you up and out. So it was a. We could say it was a bumpy ride. My leg was basically looked detached from my body. It was a 75 foot yacht boat propeller that came in contact with my legs. Yeah, it was very, very scary. First it's life or death, and then do you keep the leg if you do survive? So, yeah, it was a very traumatic, very traumatic experience.

[B]

Wow. So nuts on vacation. You're just.

[A]

I was actually there looking at real estate.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah. I do love Athens. I love Greece. It was our day off, so. Want to go see Corfu? Why wouldn't I? Let's do it. It was July 5th of 2025 and. Wait, what are we in 25 or 26?

[B]

We're in 25. Yeah, I've done that before.

[A]

It was just July 5th of 24, and it was like the best day of my life. I was having so much fun. It's one of those things I hate for everybody who's had a near death experience, but in a moment, your entire life flashes before you. And with the days following, your perspective on everything you thought you knew changes.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So even right now, you still feel that change?

[A]

Yeah, I'm still affected. I'm not shooting pro. I've had to adjust my business life. I have to adjust my physical life. I've been in the gym my entire. Since I could walk, basically. I love it. And for two months, I was ambulatory. I couldn't get out of bed, I couldn't walk. So aside from the professional in realizing, oh, my God, I'm at the top of my game, I'm under contract With Vixen Media Group. My VIP sites are rocking. I'm doing cameos. I have renewed interest in feature dancing. And I'm in a hospital bed in Greece, hoping I get to keep my leg. So, yeah, it changed in an instant.

[B]

Yeah. Talk about being at your peak and then going through a downswing, right?

[A]

Yeah. It wasn't my choice. That made it even harder for me. You know, I love what I do. I was not ready to walk away. I'm still not. So. Yeah, we'll see where that goes.

[B]

Well, now you're looking way better. You walked in here completely.

[A]

I walked in here, Yeah.

[B]

I would have never known you went through that.

[A]

So it's flexibility. I mean, it's a tremendous amount of physical therapy. And in a matter of a few months, the atrophy is outstanding. It's insane. You're like a bag of pudding. So you're starting over with the strength and flexibility.

[B]

Yeah. Look at Ben Askren right now. Right. He can't even walk.

[A]

He will.

[B]

And that was from two months, I think, as well.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Well, depending on what was done. You have to be very careful that ligaments and muscle mass. My entire quadricept was severed.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

So that's. You can imagine the amount of reattaching. And there was a tendon, thank God, Only one. But they had to be reattached.

[B]

Jeez.

[A]

Yeah. So you don't want to be walking on it. You have to let it heal.

[B]

Can't believe you didn't pass out from the pain. That's nuts.

[A]

Well, that was the secondary unfortunate aspect is I knew it was a long ride. We covered my leg. We took all the blankets, everything we could, just to hold it. Cause we didn't know what was under there. And I just kept telling myself, even when you felt cold or you felt tingly, like, do not fall asleep. Do not fall asleep. I am not dying on this boat. So for months I didn't sleep because every time I would start to try to sleep, you hear in your head, don't fall asleep. So, yeah, I needed a little extra help getting over that.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

What a story. What a story.

[A]

Yeah. But I'm here to tell it, so I'm grateful.

[B]

Yeah. That's awesome. So what's the main focus for you now, this year or next year?

[A]

Well, I have two main focuses, personally. Getting back to 100% physically, and my marriage just really getting to. I traveled a lot for the past 15 years, and really getting to put that first. Put us first, and enjoy that time. Together. So those are my personal priorities. And for work, it's my fans. If one thing that was fascinating came out of the accident so far, one thing, there's more to come, was the connection with the fans. God, they kept me sane. I've never been more engaged with them. When you're laying in a bed for 24 hours a day every day, and I'm thinking, oh, my God, how am I gonna sustain what's gonna happen to my career? My fans stepped up in ways that I can never thank them for. I mean, literally, there's nothing I could do but say, you know, thank you, guys. Because I was texting, sexting, doing phone photo photo shoots, doing lives from bed, and they weren't like, ew, you're sick, Something's wrong. They were supportive and loving, and you got this crazy. So I just want to spend the time giving back to them.

[B]

Respect. Yeah. When good energy is coming your way, I bet you feel it like that.

[A]

I want to give it back tenfold.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was your husband with you in Greece when that happened?

[A]

No. And that was beyond devastating. So thank God my friend speaks perfect Greek. I do not. It's an incredibly difficult language. And, you know, he was holding down the fort. We have three build projects going on and I was there looking at real estate. So it was. I was only gonna be gone a week, five days, and it turned into 21 days.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Because I was in the hospital and, you know, of course he wanted to get on the plane and just get there. And I wanted that desperately. There's no. It's hard enough being away for a few days, let alone in a situation where that I was in. And thank God we were strong enough to get through it, but we needed him there. Not just to manage life, but getting me home, that was like a full time job. He would be on the phone 14 hours a day, for day after day after day. Nobody would fly me home.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Because of my condition, they kept saying, it's a liability. I was on a lot of medication. I couldn't bend my leg. So I had to be in a situation that most airlines were like, no. And flying private. I don't know about you. If you have that. That blessing, good for you.

[B]

Not internationally. Not internationally.

[A]

Yeah. Exactly. So you know what it is here? Imagine.

[B]

Yeah. That would have been 100k plus right over.

[A]

Yeah. Plus I needed to fly with a nurse. I couldn't fly alone. So thank God he managed to get. He coordinated it all. It took days, but he coordinated it. And I finally got home.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So, yeah, I wasn't with him. That was brutal. That was brutal. It's the one person you want. We're on the phone every single day. But it wouldn't have done any good. You know what I mean? If that makes sense. Mentally. Yes. And looking back, but our life's crazy. And once I knew I was stable and he knew I was stable, we're like, okay, well, just, we gotta get you home. And it would be easier with him here, believe it or not, than coming there.

[B]

Wow. That's your rock. Yeah. I've been together for over 30 years, right?

[A]

Yeah, over 30 years.

[B]

It's a long time. I'm getting married.

[A]

Getting started.

[B]

Oh, that's how you feel about it?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's an impressive mindset to me.

[A]

No, it's just chapter one.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How do you, like, maintain that conviction? Because they call it the puppy love phase, Right.

[A]

I never lost that.

[B]

You never lost it.

[A]

Thank God. Neither did he. Wow. No. You know you're getting married, you said?

[B]

Yeah, in two months.

[A]

Congratulations. Fantastic. When it's the right person. And I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt. When we met in college, it was like, looked across the I know, it's hilarious bar. It was at a college bar. And I went, oh, who's that guy? And it took a few more months than that. We ended up connecting and it was it. That was it.

[B]

Love at first sight.

[A]

Yeah. It was Abswell's lust at first sight. The love came. It feels like the same thing when you first meet, but we definitely. Our love is. It's only grown deeper. All the bullshit life will throw at you when you survive it with your mate, you just get stronger.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we have all these years of experience and adventure and drama. Good times, sad times, but it's ours. I couldn't imagine those memories with anybody but him.

[B]

That's beautiful. So super impressive because I know you've been through a lot, too.

[A]

We have.

[B]

You know, and with your work on top of it, that's a hard dynamic, too.

[A]

Yeah. It's not for everybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It takes. I think it takes a very unique combination for whether both of you are in adult entertainment or one. Either way, it's when you know, people are in the lifestyle, same thing. It's not for everybody, but if it works for you guys and it makes you better, go for it.

[B]

When did you start that? Were you dating him when you started working?

[A]

Oh, no, no. That came many eight years into marriage.

[B]

Oh, whoa. So way after.

[A]

Yeah. Interesting way. I was. I Got into the industry. What would be considered old for getting into the industry, but nowadays, it's freaking awesome. It's like, the more mature you are, the. It's a better position. I'm not kidding. Like, I remember when the word MILF came out because of American Pie. Thank you. It, like, defined my career. And when they kissed Stifler's mom's photo on the wall and started calling her a milf, I swear to God, in that moment, I went. I knew it happened. My career forever is going to be changed. And I embraced that word. I loved it. I think I was in my mid to late 30s when it happened. I was like, hell, yeah.

[B]

Wow. And now you're one of the faces of it. That's crazy.

[A]

I'm honored. I love it. I think it's. I think it's a badge of honor, personally.

[B]

It's one of the most viewed categories, right?

[A]

It's probably in the top three. I don't check all the time, but I know it's because it was always teen. It probably still is, to be fair. But when you look at the analytics, MILF has been in the top three for the last few years.

[B]

Yeah, because you've gotten over a billion views on your videos.

[A]

Okay, that's a crazy thing. I don't know. I don't know the exact number. I've seen that, too. But our content is distributed in so many ways. Some I favor, some I don't, but it's out there. So I don't know how you count that.

[B]

Chachi bt.

[A]

Well, what AI knows everything they must.

[B]

Have compiled because there's different sites and. Oh, and they just kind of fan pages. I don't know how they do it exactly, but I'd imagine they compile everything. I'm sure either way, you have a lot of views.

[A]

It's a lot of views. And the thing that's more important to me in my number is that I know that since in the last few years, that. What I do know the number is I've sold over 7,500 customs via my platform. So that number. I actually know, the ChatGPT number we'll call it. That's a huge number. And I'm like, really? Are you sure?

[B]

It's almost not even, like, comprehensible. No, it's not a billion views, but honestly, I'd imagine you get a lot of repeat viewers, so it's definitely possible.

[A]

Well, I think that's the greatest. I mean, that's the greatest honor. Anybody can watch something once, but if they're choosing to come back when there's so many beautiful people out there and types of content. It's flattering.

[B]

It is, right? It's a good sign that you're doing something right.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

7,500 customs.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's like, what, one a day since you started?

[A]

I work every day on customs. Every day. If you take two or three days off, it can be like, whoa. You look at your list, like, holy hell. Yeah, I'm writing them down. I know what I have to do. But sometimes your body and mind just want to go, I just want to chill for a day or two and then you get back to work. And I really should stay on top of these. And I love, like, when somebody pays for something like that. I owe them and I don't like owing people. I want them to get what they deserve and I want them to have it in their hands asap. So, yeah, I stay busy literally every day.

[B]

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[A]

Everybody should have a line. I think everybody has a line. If they don't, they're the unicorn. I love it. I'm jealous. I mean, I'd be like, yeah, get one from you. My fans know what I'm about. I really feel like they know they're my fans because they like what I do. Like you're saying repeat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They know what I'm good at. They know what my strengths are. That's why they follow me so I think the only ones I would say no to is somebody who doesn't know me and says, we do it. You know, Anal scene. I'm like, no. When have you ever seen. Why would. Why would I do one now? It's not. I'm not laughing at them, but I'm like, I'm not the girl. Here's a few names. Check these. These chicks are hot. They would love to do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's never like a. Oh, my God, you weirdo. It's just something that I wouldn't either physically be able to do or I'm just super not into it and I wouldn't be able to do it justice.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Anal's no joke, Right.

[A]

Some girls make it look like it's just a Tuesday afternoon getting tacos. No big deal. And I sit in awe of them. But everybody's got their thing. Everybody has their skill set. That's just not one of mine.

[B]

Yeah. So you just specialized. What would you say your main skill set is?

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Like, what you're known for?

[A]

I guess my oral skills.

[B]

Oral.

[A]

My oral skills. I love doing jois. I love doing topless dick.

[B]

What's a joi.

[A]

Jerk off instruction.

[B]

Jerk off instruction?

[A]

Yeah, custom. I want to do one. I'm messing with you. Where they want me to talk them through them jerking off.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah. And I get it. Like, if you're lonely or you don't have a girlfriend or you just.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's your kink.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know where it comes from. And at first I didn't get it either. I. I'm a girl. It's a little different. I mean, you could do one for a girl. I have. It's a little different, but I think there's something about, like, if a guy's into your voice.

[B]

So it's like phone sex.

[A]

It's phone sex, but you're saying their name. You're. It's a video. So they can just keep playing it whenever they want.

[B]

So you're not live. Okay. So you record it.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Joi.

[A]

Yeah, tons of those. And I get a lot of, like, Stepmom, the MILF next door.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Those are fun. Those are just fun.

[B]

Classic.

[A]

Their MILF next door. I'm their. Yeah, their friend. Stepmom.

[B]

Wow. So those are like, the custom requests you're getting? Okay.

[A]

Yeah, lots of those. I love them. So when I get on, like, and I. They keep me on my toes because sometimes the same person will order another. How do I Make this one different. It's always pushing my creative juices, if you will.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you more focus on that than actually filming these days.

[A]

Customs are probably 80%.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It's huge. It's a huge number. I do a lot of sexting. But without question, I would say that the bread and butters customs, which I'm thrilled about. It's personal. They're very personal. Some people are great at selling content because their content's either super wild, super hot. Lots of different people. There's a million reasons why. And mine does okay. But my customs definitely are my. My backbone.

[B]

How does the sexting work? People just send you nudes and you respond.

[A]

Sometimes it's not even nude. They just. Just all vocabulary. It's just literatica.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I know women are into that, right? Literatica.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. But my fan. My fan base, I think I have like five female members. I wish I had more. I love them. But it's male dominant, so it's just. Man, I love it because again, the things they say teach me stuff. I'm not kidding. You're never too old or. Just because I've been In the industry 21 years doesn't mean I know everything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there are things they'll say. And I have to go look it up. What is that? Oh. Oh, okay. Let's go look it up.

[B]

On Urban Dictionary. Yeah.

[A]

Or there are acronyms that I don't. I spell stuff out. I don't speak in acronyms. But I have to learn because big part of our life.

[B]

Yeah. My generation is making up a new word every week at this point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I got to keep up myself.

[A]

Yeah. You know, now I don't. I just go.

[B]

Nuts.

[A]

It's fun. I can use my ages. Like, I don't know what you're saying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Use my words.

[B]

How's your sex drive gone down at all?

[A]

The only time it did, to be fair, and it was. It was hard. Time is obviously when I was ambulatory.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because my ment. It was. I had more mental healing to deal with before the physical healing, if that makes sense.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Yeah. It was really traumatic. I don't even know how to describe that experience. It was again, the photo I have in my phone right before we jumped in the water. You don't tan. You have this beautiful landscape behind you. Albania's over there. Corfu's right there. I'm living my best life. And you know, a two second captain's mistake. Forgot to do something. He's been doing for 25 years. Changed my life. So, yeah, I was kind of preoccupied, to say the least. So I have a saint of a husband because I've been gone, think about it, for two and a half weeks, almost three. I come home being delivered by, you know, an ambulance with a team of people in a stretcher. That's the first time he sees me. And then I can't move out of bed for two more months. My poor man. Thank God I have sexy friends. Seriously. And he wouldn't. I'm kidding. A little bit, because he wouldn't. I wanted him to because I'm getting frustrated. No, it's just he's looking at me like my wife's in this condition. He's like, I love you, babe, but no way. So we went through the whole. Literally the whole thing together.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

He's there with me every step of the way.

[B]

Hats off to him. And a lot of guys would have. Definitely.

[A]

I'm not saying he wasn't frustrated, but not at me. Do you know what I mean? Like his. He's an exceptionally compassionate person.

[B]

That's amazing. You guys sound like soulmates.

[A]

Oh, we are.

[B]

That's beautiful.

[A]

Yeah. No, I have no doubt. Some people believe in it, some people don't. But I'm here to tell you they exist.

[B]

I do, too.

[A]

When you meet somebody who makes you better and makes you want to be even better and everything you do in your life is that much more interesting and at a different level because they're with you, it's a soulmate.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you religious at all or spiritual?

[A]

Christian, I would say. I'm spiritual. I believe in the Bible. I believe in God. But, you know, unfortunately. Unfortunately, there's a section of Christianity and even politics, that far right wing, that doesn't care for people like me. They don't even know us. But because of what I chose to do for a living, can be a little bit Pharisee, like, and look down on and be very judgmental without showing grace or kindness. And so we don't go to church because we've had some weird experiences, as you can imagine. He's laughing. He doesn't. You don't even have to ask. We've had some very unfortunate experiences. And I don't. I don't blame God for that. We're flawed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Human beings are flawed and they're just acting the way they believe they should. I don't know. I don't get it. Because when it comes to judgment, I try to have none. I Don't know somebody else's path. I don't know your path. I'm not going to tell you who you should be and what you should think and what you should do for a living.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's strange to me when people who are supposed to be the most kind hearted, the most gracious, the most, I think open minded should be them. But, but that's not always the case.

[B]

Not at all.

[A]

So I, I would say I'm more spiritual than religious. Just from the point that a lot of people think of religious people as going to church every weekend. And that's not part of my life. But I do listen to sermons and things of that nature. But I'm more one on one.

[B]

I'm the same way. Yeah. I would say I'm spiritual over religious.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. So you get it?

[B]

I get it. 100. Yeah. I don't even know. I haven't read the Bible in full. I wonder what it would say about line of work you do. Like, I'm not familiar with their argument on it.

[A]

Well, you can take any reading and, and create an agenda. Okay. So a lot of people have a problem with the line, when you get married, I will honor and obey. A lot of women will go, I'm not gonna obey you. Right. But if you read the next part of that, there's always another side. And he's gonna promise to love you like God loves church. Well, that's a tall order. That's an incredible responsibility. So. Yeah. You're willing to do that? I'll obey.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Do you see what I'm saying? So like if, if you, but if you want to be, take a feminist viewpoint and just read that the Bible is misogynistic. This is crazy. No, you gotta read the other part. So in what you're saying. Yeah. Some churches can use, well, church can use sex as what a weapon for repent of your sins. And here's the money, bowl tithe. Well, I don't personally believe that one has anything to do with the other. When you can help, you should help. Be philanthropic, help your neighbor, help that guy, help the church. If the church is supporting things that you want. But I don't think that has anything to do with repentance. I think that's between you and God. You've sinned, you ask him for forgiveness.

[B]

I'm with you on that. I'm actually moderating a debate soon about tithing.

[A]

Ooh, I'll be listening. Yeah, I'll be listening.

[B]

It's a pastor versus someone who's Done a lot of research on the money trail of churches, especially mega churches. Oh, my gosh. There's some corruption.

[A]

There's corruption everywhere.

[B]

That's true. Yeah.

[A]

But that one's sad. This is what I mean. So a non believer might hear this story and go, I knew it. What a bunch of corrupt. They're not all. But it just takes one bad seed, doesn't it?

[B]

Yeah, well, I, I just. The whole thing of the mega church, naturally there's going to be some level, I feel like, because their incentives are about money.

[A]

I don't disagree.

[B]

Yeah. I think the smaller churches are probably better.

[A]

And they might have started off with pure heart.

[B]

Right? They probably did, honestly.

[A]

But we don't know. We don't know what was brought to them. We don't know what they saw. Who was it? Tammy Faye and the TV evangelist Tammy Faye and. Oh, my God, what's her husband's name? It's like one of the most famous TV evangelists. They got busted for all of the using of the money in inappropriate ways. I mean, they had like mega mansions and private yachts and jets and.

[B]

Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

[A]

I'm sure. You're so young. I'm like, wait, you're gonna know who he is?

[B]

You're like, no, 28.

[A]

No, it's okay. Yeah, I'll tell you about it later.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. But, yeah, point being, I think sex can often be used to manipulate. And when it doesn't work, it makes them mad. It's just my take.

[B]

Yeah. A lot of divide in the sexes with the feminism versus the red pill stuff.

[A]

It doesn't make any sense to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're a feminist and you say, you know, women should be powerful and in control of their own careers and rah, rah, I am in control of my own career. I make a great living. But. But you hate me because I'm not doing the job you like. That's. That same concept of. Is like, you're for women, women empowerment. Then you have a group of women, adult entertainers, hugely in control. Not in control. You know what I mean? Powerful within themselves. They're making their own money, they're making their own schedules. They're working with the companies they want to work with. But I'm not saying all. It's not a blanket statement. But feminists come after us for doing porn. Why? Because you don't like it. It's very strange. So it's like a buffet style. Like, we're gonna make this blanket statement, but we don't like you.

[B]

Yeah. They pick and choose.

[A]

Yeah. I don't, I don't. So do some religions.

[B]

Yeah. At least be consistent. Right.

[A]

If you know how to take.

[B]

Because then I can respect it even if I disagree.

[A]

Thank you. We were having this conversation in there about a particular megachurch.

[B]

Right.

[A]

In my opinion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And what's their influence? 80 to 100 million a year. It's pretty powerful.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

You got a lot of influencers within that organization, you know, and they don't like you or they don't like your choices. You're out. Well that's the opposite of what they preach. And whether it's that organization or a church, which is an organization, it doesn't make any sense to me. Just practice what you preach. If you're going to make a statement, keep it that way. Quit being hypocrites.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Nobody. Do you like hypocrite? No, I don't like.

[B]

I can't respect it.

[A]

That's the problem.

[B]

Like I'd rather disagree with you. But at least you hold your ground.

[A]

Thank you. I can respect it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

People think that. I know I have a reputation. I am, I am a conservative and I'd probably say right a center. I'm not, I'm not far right. I'm right a center. And I tend to have a whole lot more in common with the center because they seem to be the only sane ones. Do I push buttons on social media? Yeah, it's fun. To me, social media is entertainment. It's not real. We don't know each other. You've got 2 million followers, you have lunch every Saturday. You don't know em and it's quite a cesspool. So yeah, I fire back a lot and I make statements just to push buttons. Cause I'm not doing it to be a dick. I'm doing it to go. Let's talk about this seriously. Think about it. I'm poking the bear. Cause I want a conversation. And if you. If. No, to be fair, if they go this way and keep fighting, I will bury you. I'll go savage on you. But it's not to be a mean, it's to you have an opportunity to show exposed. That's what I thought.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

It's just a success pool.

[B]

It's all entertainment.

[A]

But I do love a good debate. You don't have to think every way I do. If you were on the left and we totally disagreed about whatever, doesn't matter. There's a million things we could say. I'd Be like, okay, I think the exact opposite. Will you tell me why? Maybe I'm missing something. I will listen to you. I'm not gonna fight with you or tell you you're stupid for having that opinion. It's yours. If we have a conversation, maybe I can learn something from you.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And vice versa. But the division, you know, the divisiveness right now is.

[B]

It's nuts.

[A]

If I said green, and you're like, no, it's purple. Instant fight.

[B]

Like, there's no growth. In that case, none.

[A]

Zero.

[B]

Yeah. That's why I like meaningful debates.

[A]

And you do a great job. I've watched several. They're fascinating.

[B]

Yeah, I try. I try. Sometimes they. They get heated, but I try my best.

[A]

Between you and somebody?

[B]

No, I just moderate them.

[A]

Oh, I see.

[B]

Moderating. Sometimes they get passionate.

[A]

You're the calm head in the middle.

[B]

I try to be.

[A]

No, you are. You are.

[B]

I try to be, like, avoiding the punch. I know, right? Have you debated someone against, like, your work before?

[A]

Oh, I've done it so many times.

[B]

Oh, yeah?

[A]

Yeah. I'll be honest. Since I got in in 2004, and it was after 2016 when people started caring about who you voted for. I grew up in a time where nobody knew. We didn't ask. It was like asking a woman her age. It's none of your business. Right. But when I grew up, it just wasn't a thing. We were all just grateful to have the right to vote. That's the thing. Nobody's like, so, who are you voting for? There were no signs in yards. There weren't yard signs. There were no stickers in the back of cars. Like there are now. To let everyone know, here's my belief system. I'm not dogging them. I have a sticker or two.

[B]

Oh, you do?

[A]

I do. But I also live in Florida, so.

[B]

Makes sense.

[A]

Yeah. But at the same time, I also started taking them off because I realized it's just more division. Like, somebody will drive by and go, what a bitch. Like, you don't even know me. And vice versa. Both sides. Like, if you have a. A Biden sticker versus a Trump sticker or a, you know, unity sticker or a rainbow sticker, people make immediate, snap decisions. It's not fair. They might be absolutely lovely. Like, you'd have a great conversation in a grocery store, but because they saw your sticker. So I actually did take them all off because I don't think it's helping.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's nuts, because I went to a Trump rally In Vegas and, like, cars were, like, honking and, like, giving people the finger just for waiting in line at a rally.

[A]

That's the part I don't like. I think it's very sad that we've come to that. But starting. It was around 2016, when the Daily Caller and several different organizations. Lots of written interview and articles. I wrote for. I mean, hundreds. I wrote for the Federalists back in the day because I had a different perspective. I'm a conservative, but I'm a porn star, but I'm a Christian, but I'm a mom, but it. It's. And it's not. But it's. And that was kind of like my platform. Like, you don't have to be one thing. Put the ampersand everywhere. I'm the. Did I say that right? Ampersand.

[B]

I haven't heard that one.

[A]

The little. The A with the circle. That means.

[B]

Oh, is that as.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

At. And. And. And you're all of these things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If. If you're a podcaster, can you not be a BMX bike enthusiast?

[B]

If I wanted to. No, I could.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I had to learn really young that it is okay to be these things, all of them, because I was so many weird things, and people didn't like it. Well, you're a Christian. You can't be a porn star. You know what I mean?

[B]

They try to box you in.

[A]

Yeah. And that doesn't work for me. Never has. Never, never, never had.

[B]

I'm the same way.

[A]

And it only got worse as I got to become an adult because I made choices that work for me and my husband and my family and the hate and the negativity and the amount of people that want to come to you and tell you, you shouldn't be doing that. You should do this. I'm like, I'm sorry, what's your name? You don't even know me, and you want to start in on me? I'm like, I get one go at this life. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it my way.

[B]

That's why I'm careful with labels, because a lot of people have these visceral reactions when you say you're something or you're part of something.

[A]

Why?

[B]

There's just an emotional attachment to certain words, I guess. I don't know. Or they're reflecting on their past experiences with that person in the same profession. Who knows?

[A]

Yeah. Who knows? But I. I think too many people let their feelings run their life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A lot of reality. I'm not saying the feelings aren't real. They are, but they shouldn't run your life, man. That's crazy.

[B]

Facts over feelings.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I need that T shirt.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's true.

[A]

It is. Doesn't mean you can't have feelings about the facts, but facts should come first.

[B]

Yeah. Have you always thought that way growing up, too?

[A]

I don't remember a time when I didn't really. Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. And maybe. Maybe because of my. My childhood, maybe because of my grandparents, but I was raised that way. I was raised in a. I didn't know it was called conservative or Republican for that matter, but I was raised that way, you know? Yeah. My. I mean, my great grandfather was a staunch Second Amendment advocate. He had a fight fire range in his basement.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

He lived out in Kings Point, Long Island. My. My grandmother has a letter from Ronald Reagan and I have a cherished letter from Rush Limbaugh.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Desperately.

[B]

What was the letter?

[A]

It was a. It was a personal letter for something I had done for. For his radio.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

For his station. He just. He's. He's the greatest teacher I've ever had.

[B]

Rush Limbaugh.

[A]

I listened to him for 18 years. 19 years.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And my husband even longer. So. Yeah, he. Yeah. Great teacher.

[B]

I never listened to him, but I heard his name before.

[A]

If you. With the way you like to learn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like me, I consider myself not. I'm not a highly intelligent, intellectual person, but, man, I'm curious. I'm really curious. And he had a way of teaching that he brought up things that. I hadn't thought of it that way. That make you go, oh, my God. So to answer the question, I've just. It's all I've ever known. It's what I like. It's how I believe. Doing my own deep dive research. I'm like, yeah, no, that lines up. That all makes sense to me. So do I have liberal friends? Hell, yeah.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

I do.

[B]

A lot in your industry, right?

[A]

I'm talking about friends. I have a lot of acquaintances in the adult industry that I think of them that way. I go to war every day for freedom of speech. So if they don't like me because I didn't vote for who they did, that's a them issue. But I'd still go to battle for them to be able to say what they want, do what they want, you know, Respect.

[B]

Yeah. Do you pay a lot of attention to politics these days? I know it's all over the place.

[A]

But less than I used to. And it's not because I don't care. Oh, man, I care. But from 2016 to about 2022, I was on the battlefield. I've put in my time, I fought my fights. It's exhausting. And to come to the point where I'm glad I did. My beliefs haven't changed. But to come to the point in our country where you see the division, regardless of what you individually did, you start to realize you're just a little safflower seed in the grand scheme of it. You can't do anything. You can't do anything. Doesn't mean you shouldn't change your voice. Doesn't mean you should stop trying. I just don't want to fight the battles anymore.

[B]

Yeah, there's a really interesting take on the conservative side. Maybe it's far right about the porn industry right now. How they, a lot of them want it banned, like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, sneako, guys like that. Have you seen that?

[A]

I've seen a little bit.

[B]

What do you think of that?

[A]

I would, I would say this is going back to that word I used earlier. Zealots and Pharisees. These, these are. And again, we're bringing back Rush. When Rush passed, He was a 500 pound gorilla. He was massive. You couldn't move him. He was the gatekeeper. When he passed, the conservative media landscape was wide open, a huge vacuum. And what I've been watching happen is the fight for clicks, the shock jock antics, the, the. You know, some of these people I had mad respect for intellectually, they're very good at delivering. They've got one of those vault brains that can just throw numbers and statistics.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I can't. I know what I believe and I know why, but I don't have that. So I always kind of respected it, to be fair. But where they all seem to be lacking, like, what do you actually believe, though? You change your position with the wind. And to me, that only looks like shock jock antics. To get clicks, to get hearts and ultimately what money. So I just goes back to what we were talking about, the hypocrisy. I can't respect it. I just, I'm not saying you can't change your mind, but when you follow a trend and it's always like, oh, I believe this. No, this week I believe this. And your numbers are going up and you can watch the analytics. It does sell. Feels fake.

[B]

Yeah. So.

[A]

So this is a hot topic. So now let's all jump on the bandwagon. This was handled in the Supreme Court how many decades ago. We pay our Taxes. It's a legitimate business. It's freedom of speech. It's all sorts of things. I'm protected just like they are. I'm not coming after you, telling you, you have to watch it. So don't freaking watch it. I don't think the majority of the world agrees with you. Sex is the most natural, most pleasurable thing known to mankind. It's that simple. And they want to say, oh, it's brainwashing men, and it's doing this. I can introduce you to about 10,000 men who aren't brainwashed, who aren't bitching about turning off porn. If you have an addiction, don't watch it. Be man enough or woman enough to control the addiction or get help. But why? Because you can't control yourself. Does everybody else not get to watch?

[B]

Good point. There needs to be some accountability. Right?

[A]

Thank you. I mean, how is that different than, oh, I burned my lip on your coffee. I'm gonna sue you. Nobody should have hot coffee. That's part of what makes this country so amazing. We have more freedoms, more liberties. And you guys are conservatives, and you're trying to take away my freedoms and my liberties to choose the career I chose. Are you mad because I'm successful? What are you mad at? What do you care what I do? If you don't like it, don't watch it. You know, some of the names you just said will come on and make comments on my Twitter. You don't like my ex. You don't like it. Why are you following me? It's my profile. I don't go on your profile and tell you you're a moron or I can't believe you do that. Or, you whore. I would never call you that because I don't know you.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Maybe you might be a bigger slut than I am, but I'm not gonna call them out. Yeah, and if I did, it's because we're friends. I'm like, you ho. What are you doing? I don't understand the disdain for something so natural.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You guys get probably some of the most hate I've ever seen on social media out of any profession.

[A]

It's like the redhead stepchild. It's just an easy target. And I do wish, I do wish that the adult industry would organize better and unite. We take enough heat, we don't need to be bashing each other, and we don't help each other. We don't help the industry by having online fights or if there's an issue. Why are you taking it to socials, deal with the director, deal with the company. It doesn't help. You know, they're waiting for that. They're waiting for us to mess up. I deal with that on a daily basis. You know, I didn't go to Harvard. I'm well educated. I have a lot of opinions. My, my exes, I learned so much being. People ask me, why are you doing that? Why are you going down that? Why are you talking to them? It's educational. I don't have all that information in my brain when I'm going down a rabbit hole with somebody or trying to expose somebody. I'm researching, I'm researching. I'm like, yeah, no, I align with that. Ooh, that'll work. Facts. Okay, I get it, you hate me. But let's talk about this. Let's start on this journey always comes down to they had an issue, or maybe their husband had an issue, or maybe, who knows? But I'm not hating on you. Just don't watch it. But who are you to take it away from everybody else? I have a real problem with that. That's what I love about this country. You don't have to like what I like. Go do what you like. I'm gonna go do what I like. We're both winning, right?

[B]

Yeah. There seems to be a lot of pressure on that movement because I know certain states have banned it, right? Or age restricted it.

[A]

Yeah. It's at the state level. The federal government gave it to the state level. And again, that's probably a whole five hour podcast. And you've probably done it. You've probably had some people on that are heavily involved. I'm working on an article right now about it. I don't know that we all agree, but to be exceptionally basic, when you go in and buy liquor, do you get ID'd?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You go buy tobacco, do you get ID'd? When you go into a casino, do you get ID'd? Why? Because it's adult entertainment. Why should everyone have access to. Should be behind a paywall. Now, how we accomplish that? Some states are taking IDs, some states are banning it. Whatever that. I'm not in the government, man. I'm not a political pundit. I'm not here to discuss how the policy's written, but I don't have a problem with it. I want them to be protected. I wouldn't want a 12 year old to be able to go buy a fifth of vodka. Doesn't make sense. So how we get there? I don't know. I think they're trying to figure it out, but our government isn't exactly sneaking snappy with catching up to technology.

[B]

They're usually way far behind.

[A]

About 10 years. That's a long time in technology when it's changing daily. I'm with you.

[B]

Yeah. With all the stuff going on with AI and deep fakes and all this stuff.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Has someone tried to deep fake you yet?

[A]

Apparently I've done commercials for male enhancement products. I'm like, where's my check? I only knew found out because people were saying, hey, do those gummies. I think it was gummy bears, jelly beans or gummy bears. Do those actually work? Like, what are you talking about?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Like seriously, like, no, that ad you.

[B]

Did, that's scary, right? It sucks because soon they'll be doing that in actual scenes too.

[A]

I'm not worried about that. I just don't think that, that. I just don't think that AI can get so good that. That people are. Are believe that they're watching real humans having sex.

[B]

You don't think so?

[A]

I don't. I don't. And I could be wrong. I hope not in my lifetime. But humans have a soul. I don't care how good it looks. My AI is pretty damn awesome. She's really, really good. I had a tremendous amount of back and forth with the creators. I love it. She's great. And most of my fans, because I've been asked, are you worried about your career? Most of my fans are like, she's neat. But I want you. They want to have a conversation with somebody who does have flaws, who does have a soul, who has a perspective. I don't care how good the AI is, how can it have perspective?

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, I agree. It's very cool. It's not going anywhere. Yeah, we both know it's not going anywhere. But if it gets to the point where I don't know if I'm watching humans have sex or AI, I'm out.

[B]

Peace out could be within our lifetime. We'll see.

[A]

I'll just throw my laptop and phone in the. In the ocean and carry on.

[B]

Yeah, you're right, though. I think sex is a spiritual experience.

[A]

It's so personal. It's the sense, the touch of the skin, the way things feel and smell and that connection. That's why it's so awesome. That's why I don't understand why people are so concerned. The Candace Owens and whoever's so mad at porn. I'm like, you're going to tell me you've never watched it and if you haven't, cool. I'm not going to judge you for not. I'm going to probably call you a liar, but there's no way. It's so natural. Doesn't mean you have to like it. To. Which we get back to, so don't watch it. But why are you taking away my livelihood? I love sex. I'm not the one who has a problem with it. So when you. You. You bitch and yell and scream at things to get things banned, that you're not a part of, it makes you look like a dick. Yeah, you're just taking away freedom and liberty. And you're the ones preaching freedom and liberty.

[B]

Yeah, well, I think a lot of them see these crazy headlines of, like, Bonnie sleeping with a thousand guys, and then they'll associate that with horns.

[A]

One person. And again, I don't know Bonnie. So I don't think anything of it. I really don't chime in on it because I don't follow people's careers. Drama and gossip, and to me, that's what it is. If I had to sit down with her, I could speak more, but I don't think anything. The only thing with situations like that are from a professional perspective. Aren't you guys testing?

[B]

They say they are, but I don't know.

[A]

I. I don't know either. So in my mind I'm like, okay, well, I stay in my lane. I tend to only work with traditional porn stars because we all test a similar way. There's a protocol. And in this new world of non porn stars shooting porn onlyfans and other platforms, it doesn't seem to be taken as seriously. I'm not there at their testing. I don't know. But the rumors, yeah, they get back to me. People want my opinion, and I can't really speak on it. I don't know the facts, but I know what my gut says. I'm like, oh, that's not gonna look great for the industry.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I wouldn't tell her not to again. It's not my right.

[B]

Well, she's the. She's the second person ever banned from only fans, I believe.

[A]

Is that right?

[B]

She got banned a few months ago. So what? I don't know. What? She did some petting, soothing. She was in a glass cage.

[A]

And it had to be more than that.

[B]

Yeah, I. I'm not well researched enough, but she's coming on in a few weeks.

[A]

Well, then you're gonna find out.

[B]

Gonna find out. She did a pod with Tate. I didn't watch that one yet. But I'm gonna watch that one, too. We'll see. What Tay said about her.

[A]

Do you know, did they get along?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, if they got along, then it was an interesting debate whether you like either of them or not. It could be an interesting conversation.

[B]

I know he gets a lot of hate, but when he's on interviews, he's pretty respectful. Hate him or love him. Andrew Tate.

[A]

Good to know.

[B]

Yeah. He's a different person on Twitter, though, so it's.

[A]

It's just the influencer mentality. He's being a shock jock to. This is what I'm talking about.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of the way he speaks. I think he's killing it. But the lane he chose. I'm not a fan, but if I sat here and had a cocktail with him and we talked about stuff other than he might be a lovely guy again, I wouldn't want to make. I might have. But I wouldn't want to make too many public statements about who he is if I don't really know him. People do it to me daily. Daily. The hate. And they've never met me after this interview. And you and I have had this one on one, we didn't know each other. We know names.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I know you a little better now. It would be fair if I walked out of here like, what a psycho. I don't like her. Yeah, that's fair. I'd go, I'm not for everybody.

[B]

Because you had an hour to form an opinion, one on one. Yeah.

[A]

At least now you have. You have reason to have an opinion, Right? Not just my profession.

[B]

Was there a specific take from him that you just didn't resonate with, or was it just a bunch of stuff combined?

[A]

Yeah, it's the combination.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And again, I haven't seen yours, to be fair, but I will. I will now because what you've told me.

[B]

Yeah. We had a three and a half hour conversation.

[A]

Okay. Now. Now I've got it.

[B]

It was the longest I've ever done.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah. It was nuts. But, yeah, A lot of women don't like him. I noticed. So.

[A]

But it's because the collective, when you put say so many things so many times, it's. But people also have a job. He found a lane and he's doing it. He's doing it. Well, whatever that is.

[B]

You're right, though. A lot of people are going to have that bias because they follow the views and they get paid based off their views. So it's hard to be 100% authentic once you reach a certain level.

[A]

And that. That word for me is everything. Authenticity is the. It's gold. It's the greatest currency, and if you don't have it, you're broke.

[B]

Yeah. I'm in a unique spot where I don't rely on the platforms for money. Like, I make money in other ways.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

So I try to be as authentic as possible. But a lot of the top shows rely on, like, the YouTube payouts, Twitter payouts or whatever.

[A]

Of course. So I get it again, it's like I get. I don't have to like. I don't like your philosophy. I don't have to like what you're doing. You know, like, even the group of people you mentioned earlier wanting to ban porn, I'm not going to go after them. I don't just look like as big of a jerk as they do right now. But I'm not gonna go follow em. I'm not gonna go on their timeline and start calling them names. It's just not my style. But go do what you gotta do.

[B]

Yeah. The name calling to me just isn't productive.

[A]

No. And unfortunately, some people that get super passionate about things. I'm a passionate person, so I gotta watch myself sometimes. I do. But there's an anger behind some of this new stuff coming out in the headlines. And you pull up photos and it's. The faces are all scrunched up. I'm like, why are you so mad? And like, the things that get me in trouble is, I want to say, just go have an orgasm. You're clearly pent up. I'm serious. You look so angry, and yet you seem to have a good life. So what are you so mad about that you're coming after people you don't.

[B]

Know prescribe them an orgasm.

[A]

Yeah. It really does help. It helps with everything.

[B]

What's the longest you've gone without one?

[A]

Oh, probably after the accident.

[B]

That was your longest?

[A]

Yeah. Well, that's not even fair because there were nights in the hospital. That's what put me to sleep.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It's a very strange thing. And I'm sure there's research, like, really medical research on this. I was in a tremendous amount of pain. And they'll only give you pain meds every so often, but those first two months, I mean, you can't sleep when your leg is just constantly throbbing and. But there was one drug they gave me. I wish I could remember it. I'm kidding. But it did help. And I'd sleep for, like, Three hours. But when you'd wake up. If you give yourself an orgasm. No, listen, listen. It's true. The pain stopped. Like my whole leg would go numb. But only for like 5 seconds, 10 seconds. So unfortunately. But I'd take it. Oh my God. Oh, and it's back. So you had a kid, but an orgasm? Actually, no. I mean, you can only so many. You can only so many times. Nurse, can I have some lube? No, I'm kidding. No, but it did help. It's a. It's truly nature's fix. You're angry. Can't be angry when you have an orgasm.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

You got a headache. Orgasm relieves it. Can't sleep. Orgasm will do it.

[B]

It definitely helps with that. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of benefits.

[A]

These are reasons why. I don't get why people are so pissed about sex.

[B]

What do you think about people that practice semen retention, that don't orgasm edging for like months at a time?

[A]

God bless them. No thanks. It's a form of control. Why? You know, anorexics don't eat. It's not because they don't like food. It's control. There's all sorts of diseases that we as humans can fall prey to for control. I don't know that that's. That's. It's not a disease. It's control, isn't it? What else could it be? And potentially maybe some of them. I haven't talked to them, but would say when you do orgasm, it's like next universe.

[B]

Yeah. Well, a lot of them actually have wet dreams because your body's just getting.

[A]

It's got to go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The only concern from a medical. Like, again, go. Go for it. That's awesome. You do you. I. I don't personally understand it because I know if I go like four or five days, I'm cranky.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I get cranky and I won't even know why I'm being so bitchy. And then it's like, you need. Yeah. You know, work that out. And then I'm like, I'm good again. But it's true. It'll sneak up on you. We're supposed to. We were given that physical trait and ability because it feels good and life's a bitch. You gotta have some good stuff. And I think that's one the only concern I would have, and you've probably done this dive is medically, is it even healthy for a man to not release? I would say no, because like I said, everyone I know that has a lot of Orgasms. People in the industry that have a ton of sex. There's no prostate cancer.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I've been in the industry 21 years. I don't know of one case. Not saying there's not, but I don't know of one. And when you do that research. Well, yeah, the more you do, the less likely you don't use it. You lose it. So there might be something there that would concern me. Like, if my man was like, I'm gonna hold it for three months, I'd be. Let's talk about that. From a medical. I mean, I would. I would want. That would be hard for me. But from a literal, biological standpoint, I don't know if that's healthy.

[B]

Yeah. I'd be very fascinated. If there's a correlation with prostate cancer and how often you're ejaculating, you'll have.

[A]

To have one of them on.

[B]

I know. We'll have to. I'm gonna look that up.

[A]

Can I be here for that one?

[B]

Yeah, I'll let you know.

[A]

I'd be like this. Like, tell me more.

[B]

No, it's fascinating because boxers, sometimes they'll do that before their fights.

[A]

Yeah. Or. Yeah. Football players, everybody's got their. I don't know if I think that's a theory. Like, every athlete has their thing, whether they wear the same socks or the same whatever. Right. That's a. What's it called? You have a. You're suspicious. It's like, yeah. You're like, I got to do it this way or the team won't win. I think it's more that than actual. Could be, are they going to play better or go, oh, I fumbled because I had an orgasm last night. I don't know. I've heard this before.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. It definitely could be. No, pre sex, the mind is powerful, so if you tell yourself that's affecting you, it's affecting you. It is 100%. Yeah. Speaking of boxing, though, you tweeted out Tyson and Paul killed boxing. That fight was that bad?

[A]

Oh, when I get so much hate for this. But it's. This is how I feel. And it's. I have reason. I grew up in Detroit, you know, grew up on Tommy Hearns and Cronk Gym. My husband was an amateur boxer in the amateurs from 12 years old until after marriage. We still have a heavy bag in our gym. It's part of our workouts. We love boxing. He got me even more into it, but it's always been there. Like you have in football. And we were live tweeting all the time. Like, we would watch the game, we'd have it on, and I'd be on X. I'll always call it Twitter. I'm on X and just live tweeting about what's going on because we both loved it. And Al Bernstein, who is a legend and commentator, Showtime Boxing, they picked up on what we were doing. We developed this awesome friendship with Al and ended up going to. I was defending the crap out of boxing. Everyone's saying, it's dead, it's dying. I'm like, no, it's not. That was one of those passionate moments. I get pissed. It is not dying. I love the sport. Unbelievable skill, unbelievable athletes. I just really love the sport. And we were invited to the first Jake Paul fight in Florida, I think it was in Tampa. And went out to dinner with Al and some of the other execs and Jake's opponent was having dinner. And let's just say that it wasn't a pre fight meal. And we were all like, okay. And I just. Then I saw the fight and I just. It just became to me a debacle. It was nuttiness. It went from pure boxing to entertainment. And God love him, the guy's a hell of an athlete, but his fan base is social media fan base, it's just a different breed. So the whole boxing, the whole look of boxing was changing. And I'm sitting back watching, I'm like, okay, shit. This might be the first time I've said boxing might be dying. And then there was the.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

God, I'm blanking tattoo. The Tyson farce. I'm like, seeing his face, I'm like, he's gonna kill you in your sleep. But it was, as far as I can tell, no, I didn't read the contracts, but the information about contractual agreements and this and that, I lost faith in it being a sport I could believe in. It felt fake. So to be fair, I just. I switched over to ufc.

[B]

I feel that.

[A]

Yeah, I. And. But I was sad. I'm not going to say I'm not sad. I'm not necessarily. Well, I'm mad at him. I'm mad that they ruined the sport.

[B]

It's turning into WWE now, almost. Right?

[A]

My words exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And again, is that a form of entertainment? Hell, yeah. Are they amazing athletes? Yep. But it's not boxing.

[B]

Right? Boxing is supposed to be who's the better fighter.

[A]

It's a tremendous sport. But, yeah, I. UFC's fun, though.

[B]

That's probably my favorite one right now to watch.

[A]

It is mine. They. I'M I'm a convert. I'm a convert.

[B]

You went for boxing? Ufc?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep. Because it's real.

[B]

Yeah. You can't fake that.

[A]

Blood splatters across your face when the. From in the cage, you're like, oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah, you can't fake that. You can't fake that.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Well, Brandy, this has been real fun. I can't believe it's been an hour already. That's crazy. Where could people find you and support you and everything?

[A]

Well, thank you for asking, because there are a lot of fakes. Not just AI, but there's a lot of people stealing images and. And messing with fans. All of my legitimate platforms and social media can be [e-mail]. all my legitimate links are there, so. And I am always on my only fans Minx cameo. Those are my jam.

[B]

If you want a J. Oi, guys. Yeah.

[A]

You want a jiy? I'm your queen. I got you.

[B]

Check her out. Thanks for coming on.

[A]

Thank you so much. What a pleasure, you guys.

[B]

I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you.