Digital Social Hour – Episode Summary

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Brandon Dey (Breatharian Institute)
Episode Title: Brandon Dey: The Breatharian Who Broke His Sternum and Awakened His Higher Self | DSH #1673
Date: December 9, 2025

Episode Overview

In this thought-provoking episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Brandon Dey from the Breatharian Institute—marking the first time the podcast features a guest from the Breatharian community. The conversation delves into Brandon’s spiritual journey, the mechanics and philosophy behind Breatharianism, mystical experiences with pain, the role of fate and free will, past lives, spiritual entities, the challenges and insights of fasting, and the impact of food and environment on spiritual awakening.

Brandon offers deeply personal narratives about radical experiences (like breaking his sternum and the “wall of fire”), encountering spiritual entities, and how these shaped his mission to help humans live more authentically and consciously. The episode remains open-minded, curious, and unorthodox, making for a rich and unconventional discussion about spirituality, the self, and the unseen forces around us.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breatharian Institute and Ascension (00:46–01:35)

• Brandon explains the mission: teaching people how to live as their Higher Self on Earth, actively creating a body “that can be a perfect home for the Higher self” (00:50).
• The Institute aims to guide humanity toward collective ascension, not through dogma but practical experience.

“We are… here doing, is giving the information that humanity needs in order to come to the next level… to create a body that can be a perfect home for the Higher self on Earth.” —Brandon (00:50)

2. The Mystical “Wall of Fire” Experience (01:35–05:40)

• Brandon underwent extreme breathwork practices (2005-2011), which led to an intense nine-month “wall of fire” experience:
  • Persistent burning sensation in the body, akin to an inferno, relieved only through meditation (01:35–02:41).
  • He notes spiritual literature frequently references “fire” as a metaphor and literal experience for transformation.
  • After crossing this threshold, Brandon claims his body felt “permeable” and “his pores more open,” losing, for the first time, the sense of separation from others.
  • Instant karma: Post-experience, the consequences for negative thoughts or actions became “instantaneous and much more painful,” reinforcing rapid spiritual learning.

“I had to meditate in order to stay in my body because the pain was trying to—when you go through a lot of pain, it'll push you out of the body. And I was just afraid I would die…” —Brandon (01:53)
“My body now breathes. Like, my pores are somehow more open… I don't feel this feeling of separation that I used to feel. I just don't feel it at all.” —Brandon (04:34)

3. Fate, Destiny, and the Higher Self (06:09–08:18)

• Debate on free will vs. destiny: Brandon argues that true free will is paradoxical when set against the larger plans of one's higher self.
• Describes higher self as a “greater body with different… tentacles that reach down”—an extension shared across “soul families.”

“If my free will is to do a certain thing that is against my higher self… then do I really have free will?... my higher self had a bigger plan, which is what brings destiny into the mix.” —Brandon (06:22)

4. Soul Families, Past Lives, and Healing (08:18–16:31)

• Sean and Brandon exchange experiences of soul family resonance and past-life readings, with Brandon recounting a direct, transformative past-life memory involving a pre-cataclysmic civilization and giant ants in the “Cochise Mountains” (11:05–14:51).
• Both share stories of how clearing past-life trauma led to the physical disappearance of ailments and emotional burdens.
• Memory skepticism: Brandon insists on experiential validation over belief.

“Up until very recently, I didn't even believe in past lives… what do I know if I don't experience it? I don't know it.” —Brandon (09:06)
“I was utterly devastated because I could feel that the world was going through another cataclysm... But still the earth had to go through another cataclysm because of the evil in the world, that people were enslaving people...” —Brandon (12:37)

5. Opinions, Social Media & Value (16:40–18:34)

• Brandon critiques the overabundance of opinion in the digital age: “Opinions should be the least important things in the whole universe… there’s an endless supply.”
• Distinguishes lived experience and research from mere opinions.

“Our opinions should be the least important things in the whole universe… there should be nothing, because… there's an endless supply.” —Brandon (17:40)

6. Mentors, Early Trauma, Memory & Demons (18:34–23:45)

• Discussion of Brandon’s first mentor, Wiley Brooks, and pivotal childhood memories—some “buried to uncover later,” due to trauma and, in Brandon's words, a mind parasite/demon attaching at age 2.
• Food as spiritual vulnerability: “Food can attract demons… because it's the, like, energies.”

“I started to do as a very young child, was bury my memories inside of myself to uncover them later… I was very conscious about burying these memories because I knew I wasn't going to win the battle against this mind parasite.” —Brandon (21:13)

7. Demons, Spiritual Entities & “Selling Your Soul” (23:45–38:34)

• Brandon shares nuanced perspectives on demons, seeing them more as teachers than enemies:
  • “They're simply doing their job… their job is to drag us to hell and put us through pain so that we can figure it out.” (24:45)
  • Recounts interactions with energetic vampires, Legion (the biblical demon), and Satan—describing the latter as courteous, respectful, and acknowledging the Creator (29:27–34:53).
• Art world anecdotes: Declines several “sell your soul” offers, which ranged from sexual favors to trading a friend’s life for material success.
• Discusses psychic/spiritual cords from sexual relations and how trauma and darkness can be transferred through food, sex, and social interaction.

“If you run into a vampire, give it whatever it's attracted to in you… It fulfills them. If you run into a vampire, give it whatever it's attracted to in you because it's going to be attracted to lower level stuff…” —Brandon (26:13)
“Every demonic presence that I've ever seen acknowledges the creator. It's only people who are sort of dim in that way who don't.” —Brandon (35:47)

8. Modern Spirituality, False Gods, and the Structure of Reality (44:05–48:35)

• Brandon differentiates between “the Creator” and “God,” seeing God as “the president of this world.”
• Discusses his vision, where the “God of the Reptilians and the God of the Grays” agreed not to work against humanity anymore (44:05–45:49).
• Critiques modern religion's focus on business and false prophets, and underscores the importance of authenticity and individual spiritual creation.

“God to me is a title of the being who's sort of in charge of this world for this time. So as above, so below… so that's the way it's run on Earth...” —Brandon (44:05)

9. The Weight of Creation and the Burden of Being Human (48:35–52:05)

• Brandon addresses the daunting responsibility of one’s creative thoughts: “The real feeling of one wrong thought can destroy my entire universe... that’s a heck of a responsibility.”
• Emphasizes not all beings on Earth are “human” in the same sense, theorizing that spiritual, moral, and even “creator” qualities differentiate people.

10. Subconscious Mind, Information Hygiene, and Frequency (52:05–55:36)

• Discussion shifts to where thoughts come from—subconscious, environment, ancestral memory—and the importance of curating one’s informational and energetic diet.
• Sean notes he avoids music with negative lyrics to maintain his mood and vibration.
• Brandon is wary of the transition from analog to digital music, believing analog carries more of the Creator’s inherent energy.

“I’m so sensitive now that even certain songs will just trigger me… if it’s like negative lyrics… I can't even listen to this right now.” —Sean (53:41)

11. Fasting, Food, and Energy Exchange (55:55–60:28)

• Fasting is powerful, especially in nature or away from eaters—being around people eating makes fasting much harder due to social/energetic signals to eat.
• Brandon is not strictly vegetarian, favoring clean, ethically sourced foods and “checking the energy” of what he eats.
• Consuming mass-produced, chemically treated, or fear-laden animal products introduces “chemical fear” into the body.
• There's a direct link between spiritual sensitivity and diet; eating “fear” can replicate vibrational states of fear in the body.
• Both Sean and Brandon discuss nuanced challenges in navigating the energetic implications of food and remaining sensitive to what's supportive for their bodies and spiritual development.

“When I go out into the woods… after day two, day three of not eating, I mean, I just feel fantastic. But as soon as I join the world of eaters again, I need to eat... It makes me super sensitive.” —Brandon (56:03)

12. Initiatory Injury – Breaking the Sternum and the Bee Sting Catalyst (62:07–65:41)

• Brandon shares how breaking his sternum (2011) was a necessary spiritual initiation, triggering a “volcano” of chest energy and spiritual awakening.
• Immediately after, a bee stung his forehead, catalyzing a connection between his head and heart energies (“nerve fire”). This intensified the burning sensation and, according to Brandon, furthered his transformation.
• Connects the experience to the therapeutic uses of bees and bee stings (apitherapy).

“When I broke, [my sternum] it was like a volcano opened up in my chest. And I knew that this was the expansion that I’d worked 10 years to get to…” —Brandon (63:51)

Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• On the higher self and guidance:
  “There is still this higher faculty that sort of guides me through life, that puts me in situations that I consciously would not want to be in.” —Brandon (00:12)
• On instant karma:
  “The pain level of making mistakes has definitely grown... The karma is instantaneous. I learn my lessons like quickly.” —Brandon (05:40)
• On the difference between experience and opinion:
  “If I don't experience it, I don't really believe it.” —Brandon (08:42)
• On the reality of spiritual-warfare:
  “Food can attract demons? Oh yeah, holy crap. Because it’s the, like, energies, you know…” —Brandon/Host (20:51)
• On energetic vampires:
  “…Fulfill this vampire. If you run into a vampire, give it whatever it’s attracted to in you because it’s going to be attracted to lower level stuff.” —Brandon (26:13)
• On responsibility and spiritual initiation:
  “That real feeling of one wrong thought can destroy my entire world, my entire universe. That’s crazy… It's not like, oh, we're all powerful. It's like, well, you know, that's a heck of a responsibility.” —Brandon (51:25)

Pivotal Segment Timestamps

• Opening, Karma and Pain, Spiritual Guidance: (00:00–00:32)
• Brandon’s “Wall of Fire” Experience: (01:35–05:40)
• The Higher Self, Soul Families, and Past Lives: (06:09–14:51)
• Memories, Trauma, and Demons in Early Life: (18:34–23:45)
• On Encounters With Demons & Selling Your Soul: (23:45–38:34)
• Fasting, Diet, and the Spiritual Sensitivity of Food: (55:55–60:28)
• Breaking Sternum, Bee Sting, and Awakening: (62:07–65:41)

Episode Highlights & Memorable Moments

• Brandon’s "Wall of Fire" story (01:35–05:40) — perhaps the most powerful description of a spiritual trial on the show
• Experiential Past-Life Regression with “giant ants as saviors” (11:05–14:51) — an unusually vivid and emotional account
• The nuanced, non-demonizing take on spiritual entities (24:45–29:33), including Satan
• Behind-the-scenes on “sell your soul” art world offers (30:02–31:43) — a rare, candid look at the intersection of spirituality and the underbelly of elite circles
• Energy Exchange When Fasting (56:03–57:38) — actionable insight with real-world grounding

Final Thoughts

This episode is a rich and unfiltered exploration into the less-traveled realms of spirituality—uncensored and unconventional. Brandon’s narratives challenge both mainstream and alternative teachings, favoring lived experience, self-responsibility, and a holistic, integrated approach to enlightenment and healing. The conversation balances the metaphysical with tangible advice on food, memory, self-awareness, and the journey of awakening.

Find more about Brandon and the Breatharian Institute at Breatharian.com and on Instagram.