Brevan McAlpin: The Hustle Behind His $30M Roofing Empire | DSH #1428

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Brevan McAlpin: The Hustle Behind His $30M Roofing Empire | DSH #1428
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Brevan McAlpin
Date: July 2, 2025

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Main Theme

This episode delves into the meteoric rise of Brevan McAlpin, a 22-year-old entrepreneur from North Carolina who built a $30 million roofing business. Host Sean Kelly unpacks Brevan’s journey from humble beginnings, his unique business model, the grit required to survive industry challenges, thoughts on family and loyalty, and his bold approaches to business and marketing, all while exploring the mental shifts necessary for extreme success.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Fast-Paced Hustle in a Slow State

• Cultural Pace in North Carolina:
  Brevan reminisces about the slow pace back home compared to high-energy environments like Las Vegas and how that contrast inspired his hustle-driven company culture.
  • “Everywhere else is fast paced. So that’s what we’ve been trying to implement and I mean, we’re doing a good job.” [00:42]
• Hiring Young Talent:
  The business thrives on onboarding energetic young people. An 18-year-old new hire made over $10K in his first day, underscoring both the opportunity and effectiveness of their sales-first approach.
  • "Our model was hire young people...just today alone he's made over 10k in sales easily today on his first day." [00:41]

The Roofing Business Model & Weather Events

• ‘First Responder’ Approach:
  When storms hit, the business steps in as a sort of first responder, working with insurance to repair and upgrade homes, benefitting homeowners and leveraging insurance funds.
  • “We show up almost as a first responder and we come out, we get the insurance companies to come out there, and we get the insurance companies to pay for all the damage.” [01:41]
• Tactics in Claim Filing:
  McAlpin explains the nuance between “flood” and “water intrusion” in insurance language—a single word that can decide whether a family gets compensated.
  • “One slight word can make a world of a difference for somebody’s family in their home.” [03:40]

Personal Journey: From Shoveling to Empire

• Humble Roots and Grit:
  Brevan started shoveling manure on a farm—an experience that built discipline and humility, which he credits for later successes.
  • “I started shoveling shit...Literally cried every day going to work. And then over time, I kind of got into construction” [04:03]
• Extreme Adversity:
  Brevan faced betrayal, lawsuits, and even threats to his life when leaving a former company, yet managed to persevere and build his own.
  • “...the guy almost, he tried having us killed. We were on the run, our vehicles got vandalized, destroyed...Then we got hit with a lawsuit, went to court, we beat the lawsuit...the rest is history.” [04:41]

Team Culture & Business Model Innovation

• Selecting the Right People:
  Brevan equates choosing the right business partners and team to survival and prosperity—removing “snakes” is essential.
  • "Sometimes you gotta get rid of the snakes in order to harvest the actual crop." [07:45]
• Unique Profit-Sharing Model:
  Brevan’s business, All of Us, ensures everyone gets an equal commission split—owners included—fostering a unified, committed culture.
  • “Every employee makes 50% commission of the profit of each job. And...we’re not taking any money from this business. We’re going to make the same as everybody else does.” [15:25]

Door-to-Door Hustle & Honoring the Grind

• Sales Strategy:
  The success is built on relentless door-to-door sales, often skipped by modern companies.
  • “We do everything door to doors. Our lead service is going out and knocking the doors.” [10:29]
• Staying Grounded:
  Despite his wealth, Brevan still hustles on the streets with his team.
  • “Still hitting doors is crazy. Still hitting doors. I love it, dude.” [16:03]

Personal Life

• Relationships and Trust:
  Success makes genuine relationships harder. Brevan values loyalty and separates family and workplace to prevent complications.
  • “You never truly...know if someone is 100% there for you as a person or what you come with.” [13:09]
• Fatherhood Story:
  Unexpectedly becoming a father after financial and personal struggles, Brevan’s approach is candid and accepting.
  • “[After] I got out of jail, get a text from a girl...saying, hey, the guy I thought was the dad’s not the dad....it was my child. Which everything works out for a reason.” [13:35]

Material Success & Mindset

• Celebrating Wins:
  Brevan unapologetically enjoys his success, buying an impressive car collection, as a testament to the work invested rather than the material itself.
  • “It’s not a fact of having the actual object. It’s the hustle, the work it took to get it...It’s the journey it took to get there.” [11:13]

Expanding Horizons: The Gym & Real Estate

• Diverse Business Ventures:
  McAlpin is also moving into luxury gyms and commercial real estate, with a massive 73,000 sq ft facility (the equivalent of 28 McDonald's locations), fighting legal hurdles to open.
  • “We have a 73,000 square foot warehouse which is where our gym’s at...it’s a big, big place. It’s not just a gym. We have...a barber shop...indoor car garage...the largest sauna in North Carolina.” [18:33]
• Commercial Real Estate Approach:
  They buy real estate and have their businesses as tenants, thus collecting both rent and business revenue.
  • “Let’s buy commercial real estate and let’s put businesses inside the real estate. So then we lease back the spaces from our main business...” [19:06]

Marketing Tactics & Controversy

• Bold Billboards:
  Brevan’s gym advertised with a controversial billboard—“Being fat is a choice”—to spark attention (and backlash) outside a McDonald’s, resulting in major coverage.
  • “We made a billboard...[it said] ‘being fat is a choice’...we were on every news channel in North Carolina possible. All the fat people are mad.” [19:50]

Reflections on Insurance & the Industry

• Increasing Consumer Barriers:
  Insurance companies create more hoops to jump through, making it harder—and more important—to have advocates like Brevan’s company.
  • “Insurance almost doesn’t exist.” [16:48]
  • “You’re deductible...that’s where they get you...you gotta meet this deductible in order to get any money from them.” [17:08]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On starting at the bottom:
  “I started shoveling shit...Literally cried every day going to work.” — Brevan [04:03]
• On the insurance tactics:
  “One slight word can make a world of a difference for somebody’s family in their home.” — Brevan [03:40]
• On overcoming betrayal:
  “The guy almost, he tried having us killed. We were on the run, our vehicles got vandalized…” — Brevan [04:41]
• About their unique commission model:
  “Every employee makes 50% commission of the profit...we’re not taking any money...we’re going to make the same as everybody else.” — Brevan [15:25]
• About leadership and keeping ego in check:
  “Still hitting doors is crazy. Still hitting doors. I love it, dude.” — Brevan [16:03]
• On relationships at the top:
  “You never truly...know if someone is 100% there for you as a person or what you come with.” — Brevan [13:09]
• On controversial gyms marketing:
  “We put on the billboard...‘being fat is a choice’ and we put it in the McDonald’s parking lot...All the fat people are mad. But it’s the best marketing, though.” — Brevan [19:50]

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• 00:42 – Brevan describes the company culture shift and hiring strategy
• 01:41 – Explains business model and relationship with insurance after a storm
• 03:38 – Subtle language differences in insurance claims (“flood” vs “water intrusion”)
• 04:03 – Brevan’s journey from farm labor to entrepreneur
• 04:41 – Stories of betrayal and surviving lawsuits
• 10:29 – Door-to-door sales as the cornerstone of business
• 13:35 – Story of unexpected fatherhood and personal growth
• 15:25 – Introduction of All of Us and their egalitarian commission structure
• 16:03 – Brevan still doing door-to-door sales
• 18:33 – Details about the new gym, marketing, and legal hurdles
• 19:50 – Controversial billboard marketing campaign

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Episode Tone & Language

The tone throughout is casual, direct, and unvarnished—reflecting the working-class grit, candor, and ambition that drive Brevan’s narrative. The conversation is peppered with humor and real talk about business, loyalty, risk, and the sacrifices behind entrepreneurial success.

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In Summary

This episode of Digital Social Hour serves as a blueprint for relentless hustle, calculated risk, and unfiltered business advice. Brevan McAlpin’s practical wisdom—grounded in firsthand adversity—offers unique insights for anyone aiming to disrupt an industry or build an empire from the ground up. For those seeking real tactics, raw stories, and proof that ‘the grind’ is the difference-maker, this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Brevin]

And then I go back home and there's like nothing.

[Interviewer]

It's slow, right?

[Brevin]

It's so slow. Everywhere else is fast paced. So that's what we've been trying to implement and I mean, we're doing a good job. You know, our model was hired young people. So like today we have an 18 year old who literally just started with us and today was like his first full day. And just today alone he's made over 10k in sales easily today on his first day, foreign.

[Interviewer]

Guys got a 22 year old business owner. That's crushing it. From North Carolina today. Brevin, thanks for hopping on, man.

[Brevin]

Good to be here, dude.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And welcome to Vegas. It's only your second time.

[Brevin]

Second time. I love it.

[Interviewer]

You remember the first time?

[Brevin]

Yeah, I do, actually. That's usually one of those things, I guess people forget. I do remember it. It's actually in this very spot where we're at now.

[Interviewer]

Oh, you were at the last celebrity poker tour?

[Brevin]

Last one, yeah. It's a good. I don't think you could get a better like housewarming party, housewarming gift than the tournament, you know.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Well, roofing probably sucks out here because it doesn't rain.

[Brevin]

Yeah. You're not going to get too many storms. You're gonna have to just, just wait it out, I guess.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah. So walk me through the model. Let's say a storm hits in North Carolina. What's the next step from there?

[Brevin]

Like, dude, when we get hit with a storm, it's. It's go time, you know, and not saying that when we don't have storms, it's not go time, but when we. Our motto and how we make our money is through the insurance. So we specialize when people's house pretty much get destroyed. So we're kind of hoping for people's homes to literally get wiped off the map. And then what we do is we show up almost as a first responder and we come out, we get the insurance companies to come out there, and we get the insurance companies to pay for all the damage. And then we go through the process of actually replacing the roofs, replacing the side, and, you know, rebuilding their home back to the way it was. And a lot of times we try to do it better than it was before.

[Interviewer]

Nice.

[Brevin]

So the model is kind of, you know, unique in its own way, and a lot of people don't know that they could actually, you know, use those benefits that they pay for, because that's why everyone has homeowner's insurance. It's like with a car, you know. Why do you have it? Well, in case you get in a car wreck, it's the same type of model.

[Interviewer]

Do most people usually have enough coverage, in your experience, for the repairs?

[Brevin]

Most of the time. Insurance companies has been going on for a while, so they're starting to get to the point where they want to, you know, start sliding in things to make it harder. But with people like us, that's what we do. We're like attorneys. We fight them to, you know, tooth and nail. And for the most part, though, we make them pay. We'll argue the point where they're getting a new roof.

[Interviewer]

That's good for sure. They didn't have that in Cali with the fires, man.

[Brevin]

No, dude, it was bad.

[Interviewer]

No one got paid.

[Brevin]

Yeah, no. And the same thing happened, you know, western North Carolina with the hurricanes, too. We got hit bad.

[Interviewer]

I saw that. Yeah. So no one got paid for.

[Brevin]

Yeah. So the thing that. What people don't understand is when the hurricane hit, you know, water started obviously flooding. So the number one thing people do is they're going to call their insurance companies and say, hey, you know, my house just flooded. Well, the biggest thing is they use the word flood. Nobody in the mountains have flood insurance because there's. There's nowhere near water. The last thing they expect to happen is a hurricane to come and flood their house. So what insurance companies did is they did not pay for a majority of all of the loss and devastation that happened in the mountains because people had flood damage. So we actually went back in and we're helping people file claims and file it. Underwater intrusion. So instead of doing flood damage, it's water intrusion to where insurance companies then were forced to pay for the damages that were caused.

[Interviewer]

What's the difference between intrusion and flood?

[Brevin]

I guess, really just this, the terminology. Because when you think flood, you know, if water runs, you know, down a hill and bust through your windows and completely floods, your house is different than water seeping through the cracks of the house and sleeping through the walls. So it's the same concept, just different terminology. And one slight word can make a world of a difference for somebody's family in their home.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that makes sense now, 22 years old. How did you learn all this so quickly?

[Brevin]

Dude, I, you know, it's pretty simple. I'll tell you how I started. I'll tell you how I finished. You know, I started shoveling shit, literal shit, on a farm. Growing up, North Carolina. There's not much to do besides shoveling shit. Or, you know, you either working on a farm or you're in construction. Right. So those are my two options. And I grew up working on the farm shoveling shit. Literally cried every day going to work. And then over time, I kind of got into construction. And then fast forward to the end of it, you know, here I am today. We're making millions of dollars, you know, every month, every year, printing money. And the best thing is all my buddies really work with me and work for me. And so we have a team built. But you know, it wasn't that easy going through the motions. Nothing is in life.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Brevin]

But you know, starting on the farm really taught me the core, you know, principles that I needed to build my success. Right, exactly. So then I got into construction, started my first business roofing wise when I was 15 with one of my stepdad's buddies. The company didn't do well. Then I went and worked at another company that was established. We grew that company from a startup company to a $30 million company. We left that, went through a big lawsuit. The guy almost, he tried having us killed. We were on the run, our vehicles got vandalized, destroyed. So it was, it was pretty crazy. You know, starting a business is hard enough, but especially when you have opposition like that, it's almost detrimental, dude. So, you know, between almost getting killed, our vehicles getting destroyed, staying on the run, then we got hit with a lawsuit, went to court, we beat the lawsuit. The judge ruled our business could be open. And from there it was off to the races and the rest is history.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap. You got to choose the right business partner is what I'm hearing.

[Brevin]

Yeah, for sure. You know, choose the right people. You're a byproduct of your environment, you know, and that's a big a big.

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[Brevin]

You know, statement piece for every business. You know, a lot of times when businesses fail, if you look down to the core reasons why it failed is because of the people that are in that business. You know, if you have the wrong people in your group, your group's not going to last long, right? You know, imagine this. If like a farmer, if they're going to harvest their crop, imagine sending out the workers to harvest your crop and the field is full of snakes. You're not going to Be able to harvest it. So sometimes you got to get rid of the snakes in order to harvest the actual crop. And the blessing that's there for you, so.

[Interviewer]

So makes sense.

[Brevin]

We had to learn it the hard way, though.

[Interviewer]

Had some trust issues for a bit, I bet.

[Brevin]

Yeah, it's. But I guess that's everybody, you know, I mean, I don't think there's ever a point where you don't ever have a moment in life where you, you struggle with trusting. You know, whether it's a intimate relationship or a business relationship, you're always having to work at it. And I think the trust is something that's always worked on.

[Interviewer]

So everyone I know that's made it big in business has had a similar story where like a business partner falling out or something like that, and then you got to rebound. I think it's like a necessary step.

[Brevin]

Yeah, for sure. I'm blessed. My brother, he's my business partner, not biological brother. But, you know, I've said before, you ain't got to be blood to be brother. And a lot of times people realize that the people we're closest to are not actually blood related. You know, they're family and they're. We're not actually from the same family, but through circumstances and through what we've been through, we have that bond together. And so, you know, he's been there every step of the way and building these businesses and, you know, so obviously keeping like one person super, super close and then keeping everybody else close too, but still having your, you know, your guard up because you got to shout.

[Interviewer]

Out to him, do you work with family? Actual blood family?

[Brevin]

No, I don't. No.

[Interviewer]

Separate.

[Brevin]

Yeah, we keep it separate. Yeah. So it's funny because a lot of the guys would be like, let me bring my lady, let me bring her to work. I'm like, no, you can't do that. You spend too much time with somebody and you start involving that on a day to day basis. Especially in our business model, which just doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't.

[Interviewer]

It doesn't work at all.

[Brevin]

It would. And you'd have. Yeah, it'd be. It'd be a nightmare. Complete nightmare. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You got a hot take on celebrities. What's the take there?

[Brevin]

It's just interesting, man. I feel like north. When people think North Carolina, I mean, there's other states too, I'm sure, but when you look at the U.S. it's like, all right, what states are kind of forgotten? I feel like North Carolina is one of those. And maybe it's getting to the point we're trying to make it to where it's not as forgotten.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Brevin]

But there's not a whole lot going on out there like there is everywhere else.

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[Brevin]

And that's what I'm figuring out by traveling everywhere is like, there's so much motion, so much action going on in all these other places. And then I go back home and there's like nothing.

[Interviewer]

It's slow, right?

[Brevin]

It's so slow. Everywhere else is fast paced. So that's what we've been trying to implement. And I mean, we're doing a good job. You know, our model was hired young people. So like today we have an 18 year old who literally just started with us. And today was like his first full day. And just today alone, he's made over 10k in sales.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Brevin]

Easily today on his first day.

[Interviewer]

And was that door to door?

[Brevin]

Door to door. We do everything door to doors. Yeah. So that's another thing with our business model is we don't really do like a lead service. Right. Our lead service is going out and knocking the doors. We're hitting the doors every single day. We're up, we're going at it till dark time, you know, eating in the truck, stopping at quick trip, getting the little rollers, you know, a little rooster booster, you know, whatever it takes to keep the day going. So we're just hitting the doors nonstop?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I guess in a market like North Carolina, it could work, right?

[Brevin]

It could work, yeah.

[Interviewer]

I wonder if that would work in a. In a faster pace environment.

[Brevin]

I don't know. I mean, the, the whole east coast roofing is kind of a thing. Texas is big for it too. I don't know. It'd be interesting to see. When I travel places, I wonder that to myself, you know, would it work here?

[Interviewer]

Designer fashion? Is this, Is this designer you're wearing right here?

[Brevin]

Yeah, I guess it would be considered designer. I couldn't tell you what brand it is, but I have an interesting take on that too. Because, you know, a lot of people will tell you, don't waste your money on material things or cars or stuff like that. And for me, it was like, I'm gonna work my butt off to get something that I never could afford before. And it's, it's not a fact of having the actual object. It's the hustle, the. The work it took to get it. And I think that's what everybody is, you know, addicted to. It's not necessarily the gratification of getting that thing. It's the journey it took to get there. And so, yeah, I mean, I'll, you know, buy nice stuff, expensive stuff that I probably don't need just because I've worked my, you know, ass off to get there. Same thing with cars. Like, we, we love our cars. We got a, a sweet little collection and, you know, we try to enjoy life.

[Interviewer]

You got a collection already at 22?

[Brevin]

Yeah, we got a little collection.

[Interviewer]

Damn, bro, chill with that.

[Brevin]

Yeah, I know.

[Interviewer]

What do you got?

[Brevin]

How many we so tr in vehicles? We got about 20, 20 vehicles.

Wide range. You know, we got our North Carolina vehicles and we got our, you know, sporty vehicles. We got a McLaren 570 Aston Martin, a Porsche Corvette. Actually got two Porsches Corvette and then a bunch of trucks. Souped up Gladiator. Looks like a tank.

Yeah, just, just, you know, just a cool variety of stuff. I'm trying to get a home V. That's my, that's my next one. A Humvee. Wow.

[Interviewer]

So I'd imagine since you're so successful at your age, dating is difficult.

[Brevin]

Yeah, man, it's, that's a tough one. It's, it's hard. It's hard for sure.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I got lucky. I met my girl when I was broke. But I got a lot of friends now that are, you know, successful and telling me about their dates and it's. I would never want to experience that.

[Brevin]

It's hard, man. And I'd say, you know, cherish on to what you got because, you know, when you get to a point of success, you never truly. There's no way you ever know if someone is 100% there for you as a person or what you come with.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Brevin]

Because it's hard to go back to like having nothing.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Brevin]

You know, who wants to do that? And I feel like if you got somebody who is there for you in the beginning, before you really had whatever it is that you have before you made it, you know, you truly know they're there for you. But no, I definitely, it definitely is hard when you get to a point of success. And you know, for me, like in my personal life, you know, my biggest thing is making sure my family's good. I have a little boy, a three year old boy. Crazy story how that happened to Dude.

[Interviewer]

Let's hear that.

[Brevin]

Yeah. So, you know, I walked in my buddy's house one night. I was going through a lot. I actually got locked up in jail. Crazy stuff. Got out. Week later, I was at a point in my life where I was broke. So I, I had been Making six figures a year in high school. Past the last two years of my high school career was balling. Thought I was on top of the world. God humbled me. I hit rock bottom, had $32 left in my name, got out of jail, get a text from a girl. That was one time thing saying, hey, the guy I thought was the dad's not the dad. So it's like those horror stories you hear about. And then all of a sudden I'm sitting here like, oh, no. So fast forward to the CBS parking lot to confirm exactly what anybody's worst nightmare in that situation would be. You know, it was my child. Which everything works out for a reason. There was a plan behind it because, you know, here we are today. He's three. Love him to death.

[Interviewer]

Nice.

[Brevin]

I see him all the time. So it worked out in the end.

[Interviewer]

That is nuts.

[Brevin]

Yeah, it worked out in the end.

[Interviewer]

But, wow, you were making. There's a lot of crazy things to that story, but you were making six figures in high school. Was that with roofing?

[Brevin]

Yeah, it was with roofing sales. So that's before I own a company. I was doing sales at company which should have been making way more.

[Interviewer]

They were paying you little.

[Brevin]

Yeah, yeah, I was. I revenued over a half a million in my first three months at that company. And it's. It's crazy, though.

[Interviewer]

Whose fault was it that you weren't getting paid? What you should have.

[Brevin]

The owner.

[Interviewer]

It wasn't your fault.

[Brevin]

No, it was the owner.

[Interviewer]

Did you sign a contract?

[Brevin]

No, but the way it. So that's the way the roofing industry works, right? These owners. There'll be one owner to a company that goes out and hires all these sales guys, right? And they'll pay these sales guys pennies on the dollar, and then they're sitting back making all the money. So when we left that company, we created a model that's never been done before. We said, we're going to set up a business model, and it's going to be every employee makes 50% commission of the profit of each job. And not only that, me and my business partner, even though we're the owners, we took the step further to say, we're not taking any money from this business. We're going to make the same as everybody else does.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Brevin]

So it's our business. That's why we named it all of us. So that's the name of it.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Brevin]

And so the whole principle of leaving the other company and creating what we had was we wanted something that all of us together could be a part of. So that's why we did it. And so even to this day, we stay true to that. You know, I'm out there hitting the doors.

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[Interviewer]

Thank you.

[Brevin]

It's like. And that's the way I look at it. I feel like a lot of times in business, people, you know, will forget where they started. And it almost gets to a point where, oh, I'm too good, you know, let somebody else do it. I'll make the money. But we love it, dude. I'm still out there. I was out there literally two days ago. Knocking door. Yeah, no joke.

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Doors.

[Brevin]

Still hitting doors is crazy. Still hitting doors. I love it, dude.

[Interviewer]

You're good at keeping your ego in check.

[Brevin]

I just love it, man. I mean, we love helping people, you know, because you get these little old ladies that will come to the door crying, don't know what they're going to do. And the insurance companies are taking advantage of them, and we're able to, you know, step in and. And get them a new roof, get them new side and whatever it may be, literally rebuild their whole house and save them, you know, tens of thousands of dollars when they were crying, thinking that they were, you know, doomed.

[Interviewer]

That's. The old people definitely don't know how to handle something like that.

[Brevin]

Right, Exactly. And it's sad to see, man, you know, the world's all about taking advantage of people, so especially insurance companies. We. We love to, you know, represent these.

[Interviewer]

These people. Yeah.

[Brevin]

And give them a chance. For sure.

[Interviewer]

Nevada's got the highest, I think, the highest car insurance in the country. It's crazy. Nevada. Yeah. I feel like every insurance is going up now.

[Brevin]

It is. It's not going to go any lower. That's another thing, too. Like, we've been able to track it. I remember when I first did this, things were so different in the insurance world, and it's going to the point where insurance almost doesn't exist, dude.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I'm paying almost a thousand a month for my medical insurance.

[Brevin]

Yeah. That's ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

[Interviewer]

Most people can't afford that.

[Brevin]

And then you're deductible because that's where they get you. You're deductible.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I'm not even talking deductibles.

[Brevin]

Yeah. Like, the second you go, you got to meet this deductible in order to get any money from them.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. So it's like these fees, everything.

[Brevin]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

If you go, if you stay in the hospital for more than like a day or whatever, they don't cover that.

[Brevin]

It's crazy.

[Interviewer]

All sorts of loopholes that they end up making a killing off their patients or whatever.

[Brevin]

Thousand a month is nut stuff for medical.

[Interviewer]

I mean when you're self employed is tough.

[Brevin]

Yeah. To 99 is. That's what we are to all 10 employees.

[Interviewer]

My whole business don't got many options.

[Brevin]

No, not much.

[Interviewer]

It's. Well, you're going to play poker next time you're here. What?

[Brevin]

We might. I don't know. We'll see. I'm networking a little bit. We got a gym that we just opened up in North Carolina. So. Well, it's about, it's not quite open yet. We've been in a legal battle with the county, so we're about to open it. So we've been fighting with them over it.

[Interviewer]

What's the restriction there?

[Brevin]

They won't let us open. They won't tell us why.

[Interviewer]

That's weird.

[Brevin]

It's worth it. So a lot of times, you know, if, if someone sees potential, you know, when we first started this idea, somebody offered us, you know, right. At $5 million to buy out our whole business and everything. And we pretty much said, you know, showed up your ass. We're not taking your money.

[Interviewer]

That was your first year.

[Brevin]

This was before the business was even started with the gym. So we just had the idea. But obviously since all of our other businesses were successful, they knew what we were going to do. They wanted to buy us out and make us partners and then be a part of it. In the very beginning we said no. We continue to push forward. We have a crazy. We have a 73, 000 square foot warehouse which is where our gym's at. So in like equivalent, if you think of a McDonald's, the average McDonald's is like 2800 square foot. So it's 28 McDonald's.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Brevin]

So it's a big, big place. It's not just a gym. We have literally a barber shop in there. There's an indoor car garage. I mean there's that. We have the largest sauna in North Carolina in the gym.

[Interviewer]

I love saunas.

[Brevin]

Red light, red this red light.

[Interviewer]

I love. Yeah, I haven't read that at the crib.

[Brevin]

Yeah. Really? You like it?

[Interviewer]

That's cool though. That's. That's a tough business. But it sounds like you got a good plan.

[Brevin]

Yeah. So you know, they won't let us open, but we're so close to open. And like, we finally broke through. So within the next week or so, we should be doors open. And I'm excited to see it.

[Interviewer]

So an all in mentality too, because you could have opened up with a gym that's 5,000 square feet or whatever you're starting with.

[Brevin]

We went to the. To the races, which, you know, to. Real estate's a big thing, you know, in itself because we were like, all right, everybody does real estate, so how can we do it differently? Well, let's buy commercial real estate and let's put businesses inside the real estate. So then we release back the spaces from our main business that owns the real estate, but our businesses are also revenue, and so we own everything, so it's like double the income. And that was our mindset with it. And we've just been property after property. We're off to the races.

[Interviewer]

So I think it could work because lifetime out here is like the only, like, exclusive gym, like luxury gym. And they're always full for building a third one right now.

[Brevin]

It's crazy. I think I've heard of them.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, Lifetime's a big one.

[Brevin]

Wellness is big now.

[Interviewer]

You know, health is wealth.

[Brevin]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I see someone that's fat as fuck, but they got a ton of money. I don't really care, honestly. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Brevin]

You know, it's funny, you said, you said, you know, being fat. We took it, we made a billboard. It was solid pink. And we put on the billboard. We bought this ad space so you can realize being fat is a choice. And we put it in the McDonald's parking lot, and it's a literal billboard. Dude, we were on every news channel in North Carolina possible. All the fat people are mad.

[Interviewer]

I bet.

[Brevin]

But it's the best marketing, though. Yeah. Like, you know, if you're eating McDonald's, obviously you're not probably working out or you're getting a pre workout snack. So, you know, the mindset of they hate us because they ain't us.

[Interviewer]

I think for most people it is a choice. Obviously there's a genetic condition.

[Brevin]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, everybody's got their own unique situation. But from where I'm from in North Carolina, that's a big thing. People use, you know, every little thing left and right is that I don't have time as the biggest excuse. Right.

[Interviewer]

Well, you made that excuse.

[Brevin]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

What.

[Brevin]

What do you mean you don't have time? I have the same 24 hours a day that you do. Right. And I make time out of my schedule. So, yeah, you know, everybody just uses I don't have time as an excuse for everything.

[Interviewer]

It's like, the worst one you could possibly.

[Brevin]

Don't you hate it?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Just imagine if you're talking to, like, a billionaire.

[Brevin]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I mean, that's almost an instant. You know what I mean?

[Brevin]

It. No, it is. It's like, I didn't have time or I was too busy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You know, it doesn't make sense. It's crazy. Well, dude, hope you enjoy Vegas. Can't wait to see your journey in the social media space. And keep doing it. We'll link below.

[Brevin]

Absolutely, dude. Appreciate it.

[Interviewer]

Check them out, guys. See you next time.