Bryce Crawford Predicts THIS is The Anti-Christ? DSH #1833

Summary

Digital Social Hour – Episode #1833

Guest: Bryce Crawford
Host: Sean Kelly
Release Date: February 21, 2026
Title: "Bryce Crawford Predicts THIS is The Anti-Christ?"

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Episode Overview

In this intense and candid episode, Digital Social Hour host Sean Kelly sits down with Bryce Crawford for a wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation recorded at America Fest. The two discuss faith, generational struggles, modern church culture, personal journeys with overthinking and anxiety, and Bryce’s controversial perspectives, including provocative statements about Islam, modern Christianity, and cultural values. Bryce passionately details why he believes Jesus is the answer to every societal and personal affliction, shares his empathy for those within marginalized communities, and advocates for deeper commitment—both personal and communal—within faith circles.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal Milestones and Faith Journey

• Marriage and Life Transitions
  • Bryce shares his excitement about his upcoming marriage (03:14) and advocates for marrying young and having children, linking it to his faith:

    “Marriage is a beautiful picture of how Jesus treats believers.” (03:41, Bryce)

  • Sean acknowledges the cultural shift regarding marriage and commitment in their generation (03:41).

2. Generational Struggles with Commitment & Trust

• Fatherlessness and Distrust in Gen Z
  • Bryce highlights the crisis of commitment, especially among Gen Z, linking it to family instability and feeling let down:

    “There’s like a rise in… a fatherless generation right now… they feel let down. They feel like they can’t trust anyone.” (04:47, Bryce)

• The Struggle to Hope for the Best
  • Both discuss defaulting to cynicism about others’ intentions and the challenge of genuinely hoping the best for people, referencing scripture:

    “Love hopes all things… the only way I can hope the best in people is having that love of Jesus inside of me…” (05:14, Bryce)

3. Overthinking, Anxiety, and Personal Contentment

• Open Dialogue on Mental Health
  • Sean shares his battles with anxiety and depression, stating it was largely due to overthinking:

    “I would lie on bed and I would just be in my thoughts for hours. I couldn’t sleep.” (06:00, Sean)

  • Bryce admits he struggles with overthinking even in the present:

    “Even right now. I think constantly… I’m always learning to trust.” (06:14, Bryce)

• Trusting Divine Guidance Over Logic
  • Bryce points to moments where God’s calling didn’t make sense "in the natural," emphasizing faith over rational calculation (08:17).

4. Discerning God’s Will and Decision-Making

• Process and Criteria
  • Bryce applies a test—does a decision align with God’s character and word? If so, he pursues it; otherwise, he refrains (09:03).
  • He stresses listening to wise counsel and the importance of grace through mistakes:

    “If you make a decision thinking that it’s for the glory of God and it’s the wrong decision, there’s grace…” (10:13, Bryce)

• Muscle Building Analogy
  • Learning to discern divine guidance is compared to working out: “You got to keep working out and build that muscle…” (10:54, Bryce)

5. Modern Church Culture and Deconversion

• Sean’s Hesitation with Modern Churches
  • Sean expresses unease about churches as businesses, questioning authenticity (11:46).
• Tradition vs. Manufactured Experience
  • Bryce critiques theatrical elements in modern Protestant churches—smoke machines, manufactured experiences—contrasting them with Catholic and Orthodox emphasis on tradition (12:00).
  • He insists not all churches are tainted by corruption and urges not to generalize from bad experiences:

    “One bad apple doesn’t ruin the bunch… that would be the equivalent of me saying every Muslim’s a terror, which… is not true.” (12:15, Bryce)

6. Scandal, Redemption, and Church Integrity

• Personal Example
  • Bryce shares about a once-corrupt church in his hometown that found renewal under a leader of integrity, underscoring not blaming God for human failures:

    “Same church building, right? But two different people.” (14:17, Bryce)

7. Christian-Muslim Relations & Controversial Claims about Islam

• Bryce’s View on Islam
  • Bryce makes the headline claim:

    “From a Christian perspective, I believe Islam is the Antichrist. That’s my personal perspective.” (15:32, Bryce)

  • He details why, citing divergent beliefs about Jesus and the rapid growth of Islam.
• Empathy for Muslim Converts
  • He expresses compassion for Muslims who risk familial loss when converting to Christianity:

    “Islam isn’t just a religion for a Muslim. It’s their blood, it’s their culture… if a Muslim decided they were going to deconvert… they get disowned.” (16:17, Bryce)

  • Critiques Christians who fail to provide community to converts.

8. Sin as the "Cancer" of Society

• Islam as “Perverted Truth” and Sin as the Root Issue
  • Bryce argues Islam is a perversion, but emphasizes that sin, not Islam specifically, is the true "cancer":

    “Sin is the cancer. Bible’s very clear, sin is the cancer. And sin is perversion from the truth. And I believe Islam is one of those many perversions.” (17:18, Bryce)

9. Religious Pluralism in America

• On Coexistence
  • Bryce’s ideal is for all to convert to Christianity, based on exclusive truth claims:

    “If he [Jesus] makes a truth claim… then my perspective about Jesus has to be very interesting. I can’t look at him as just a prophet.” (17:55, Bryce)

10. Controversy Around Islamic Tradition (Hadith & Sharia)

• Reading the Quran and Hadith
  • Bryce recommends reading not just the Quran but the Hadith, pointing to controversial content about Muhammad’s relationship with Aisha and critiquing such traditions (19:03).
• Sharia Law in America
  • Discusses implementation of Sharia law in Dearborn, MI, and labels it “true Islam”, expressing concern about its impact:

    “Sharia law is true Islam. What’s happening in Dearborn… is real true Islam.” (19:59, Bryce)

11. Politics vs. Worldview (Hot-Button Cultural Topics)

• On Abortion, Homosexuality, and Transgenderism
  • Bryce argues Christian positions on these issues stem from worldview, not mere politics (20:52, Bryce).
  • He condemns sin but asserts the equal worth of all people, regardless of sexuality or religion:

    “The price and the value he puts on every human being’s life is his own.” (23:23, Bryce)

12. LGBTQ+ Community and Christian Response

• Bryce apologizes for Christian judgment towards the LGBTQ+ community and stresses intrinsic human value:

  “You are not of more or lesser moral value because of your sexuality… everyone is of equal value because they’re made in the image of God.” (22:54–23:05, Bryce)

  • Uses an economic analogy for human value (23:05).

13. Learning from Other Christian Traditions

• Catholicism and Orthodoxy
  • Bryce expresses growing appreciation for Catholic and Orthodox spirituality, especially their emphasis on sacraments (25:18).

14. Upcoming Projects and Notable Guests

• Upcoming episodes—daily Bible study through Luke, and a forthcoming interview with Tucker Carlson (26:15).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Church Scandals and Redemption:

  “We tend to blame God for things that broke, for decisions that broken people make.” (14:17, Bryce)

• On Leaving Islam:

  “If a Muslim decided they were going to deconvert… they get disowned basically… that’s the purpose of the church. The church needs to step up and do a better job of friendship and loving on people.” (16:17, Bryce)

• On All Lives’ Value:

  “What’s the price God puts on a gay person’s life? …It’s all the same. And he said the price is his own life.” (23:23, Bryce)

• On Pursuing Truth:

  “I want everyone to know Jesus… but I don’t love you more or less because of who you are, where you come from, or how you were raised.” (24:07, Bryce)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Personal Updates, Marriage & Commitment: 03:01–04:38
• Gen Z, Trust, and Hoping for the Best: 04:38–05:41
• Anxiety, Overthinking, and Trusting God: 05:41–08:53
• Discerning God’s Will & Decision-Making: 08:58–11:00
• Street Interviews, Church Business Critique: 11:00–13:05
• Church Scandals and Integrity: 13:05–14:17
• Conversion, Islam & Antichrist Claims: 15:32–17:45
• Sin as Root, Pluralism, Coexistence: 17:45–19:00
• Sharia Law and American Islam: 19:49–20:49
• Cultural Issues, Politics, Worldview: 20:49–23:05
• Human Value, LGBTQ+ Inclusion: 23:05–24:24
• Appreciation for Catholic & Orthodox Tradition: 25:13–25:52
• Future Projects & Guest Teasers: 26:15–end

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Episode Tone

The conversation is candid, earnest, and no-holds-barred, combining spiritual conviction with compassion and self-reflection. Bryce is unfiltered yet often empathetic, challenging prevailing cultural assumptions while encouraging bridge-building and understanding, even across strong disagreements. Sean’s hosting is open-minded and genuinely curious, providing a safe space for challenging ideas and personal vulnerability.

Transcript

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[Bryce Crawford]

I believe it's the Antichrist. That's my personal perspective. I'm a Protestant, but we've turned to smoke machines and manufacturing experiences in the church. And what I love about my Catholic friends and my Orthodox friends is that.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

All right, guys, here at America Fest with a returning guest, we got Bryce Crawford back on the show. Man, it's great to see you, Dude.

[Bryce Crawford]

Dude, same.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. I've been following you since you came on, and you've been crushing it.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, thanks for the encouragement, man.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

What's. What's new in your world?

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, man, I. I mean, I'm getting married, and. January 10th. Yeah, I know. You just got married.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Let's go.

[Bryce Crawford]

Got engaged.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

And.

[Bryce Crawford]

And. And God's burden, my heart just for loving people continuously and. And I guess, same mission, just light. Life is changing, you know, it's good. Good change, dude.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I'm happy for you.

[Bryce Crawford]

I think.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So That's a big step for you, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Thanks, man. Yeah, big step. I'm excited. Marriage is a beautiful thing, you know, and I think. I think it's. I think we should get married young and have lots of kids.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So I think it's a very beautiful thing. But our generation has an interesting take on marriage, I think.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, I would agree. So I think there's this, like, there's this lack of commitment in our culture. You know, there's either tends to be, oh, you know, I want to, you know, do this side thing over here. I want to do this. And no commitment. And, you know, marriage is a beautiful picture of how Jesus treats believers. You know, he calls himself the bridegroom, and we're his bride as believers. And, you know, I kind of think, like, imagine if on your wedding day, you're standing at the end of the aisle, and when the doors open for the church, your bride is standing there with a beer in one hand and making out with another. Dude. And then. Oh, no, no. Throws it all away, and it's okay, now I'm ready. You'd be kind of confused. You'd be like, man, it's my bride. You're supposed to be committed to me. And in the same way, you know, I think that there's this call for people today to either make a decision. You know, you're either all in for Jesus or you're not all out. And that beautiful picture of marriage being a commitment and committing to Jesus, I think, is so important.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Now, when you say our generation has a lack of commitment, do you attribute that to a Christian thing? Do you attribute that to people not being as religious as previous generations?

[Bryce Crawford]

I think. I think definitely in Gen Z, there's like a rise in people that. That don't have fathers and mothers in their life, people backstabbing them. There's like a rise in, you know, fatherless generation right now. And so for me, personally, I just feel like it's because they feel let down. They feel like they can't trust anyone. Right. And that's where I would say Jesus has pled his case on being the most trustworthy. And so, you know, we always hope the worst in people.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Well, that's deep.

[Bryce Crawford]

You know, we do. We do because we think like, oh, you know, something bad goes wrong, we always think the worst possible outcome. I'm a big overthinker. I do that myself. And Paul writes in First Corinthians 13, the NLT translation says, Love hopes all things. And I feel like we don't hope all things in people. I feel like we actually believe the total opposite in people. And so I want to bring that back into that. And the only way I can hope the best in people is having that love of Jesus inside of me and letting that seep out of my life and other people.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That is so interesting. I used to be a very big overthinker as well. I try to live in the present now.

[Bryce Crawford]

How's that. How's overthinking affected you tremendously?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I was. Anxiety, depression, all from overthinking. You know what I mean?

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

On medication?

[Bryce Crawford]

No way.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

And do you still deal with the overthinking and the.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I still have anxiety. Not as bad depression, I would say. I've conquered, you know, thankfully. But it used to be like, I would lie on bed and I would just be in my thoughts for hours. I couldn't sleep.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. You know, I'm a huge overthinker.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Really?

[Bryce Crawford]

It's a complete.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Even right now?

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, yeah. Even right now. I think constantly, every time I talk to a pastor or a preacher or a leader, even if they're not Christian, they're always saying, man, I'm learning how to trust. Yeah, right. Because anxiety is. You're trying to take something into your own control, and you look at the entire mountain and you're like, oh, shoot, there's a mountain to climb. And I get overwhelmed and stress and overthink and. And so I'm always learning to trust.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Interesting.

[Bryce Crawford]

It's so interesting, right?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I'm fascinated because you seem very fulfilled and like you're on a mission. So to hear you say you're an overthinker, I'm very fascinated.

[Bryce Crawford]

I'm very content, you know, I have peace in my heart. I feel very satisfied. You know, the things I was looking for in sin.

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[Bryce Crawford]

Sean, before I became a Christian Waffle House we talked about last time. I have contentment and peace in my heart. You know, I, I, everything I've searched for, I found in Jesus. Now the overthinking can come from, you know, if God, if I feel like God's calling me to do something that doesn't make sense in the natural, that doesn't make sense scientifically, that doesn't make sense logically, you know, in our finite brains. Of course I'm gonna start overthinking and be like oh my gosh, what am I gonna do? You're, you know, you're telling me to move to la, God, three years ago, I don't know anyone out there. I've never even stepped forward foot in la. What are you talking about? Yeah, and we would have never reached anyone that we've reached for Jesus if I would have never just listened and said yes, you know.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

And so I think it's always a constant game of learning to trust God.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

How do you discern God's messages versus just your subconscious or like a thought, I guess.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that's a great question. You know, God is not going to pull you away from his character and His Word and make you do something that's going to pull you further away from Him. So I had a young person ask me my age, you know, should I go to this college or this college for grad school?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

And I said, I don't think God cares which college you go to, but I think making a decision for the glory of God looks like setting yourself up best spiritually. You know, maybe going to this school, it has a better degree for your grad school, but this school, you know, someone who's plugged in a student ministry, you're not going to lose faith, you know, and so ultimately God's not going to call you to something that's going to be out of his character, that's going to be against His Word and draw you further away from Him. And so that's kind of my prerequisite of, okay, God, you've asked me to do this thing. It may sound crazy, but let me, let me, let me do this quick test and pray. And lastly, just moving on, the peace of God, you know, God is not an author of confusion. God is the Prince of peace that we see that label in the scriptures for Jesus. And so God is going to give me peace on my decision making, even if it doesn't make sense. And I think that's a beautiful thing

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

when it comes to decision making for, like important decisions. Are you always asking God for the answer? Are you kind of making the decision, then asking God after?

[Bryce Crawford]

I'm asking God first. I'm asking wise counsel. You know, a lot of people have a view of Sean Mike's life, but very few people have a voice in your life, you know. And so I care about the people that have a voice in my life as those people, scriptures say confide in wise counsel. But ultimately, here's the thing about pressure is I can, as an overthinker, put pressure on myself. What if I made the wrong decision even after I made the decision, if you make a decision thinking that it's for the glory of God and it's the wrong decision. There's grace because you think you made a decision thinking that God was leading you there. And if you made a decision thinking God was leading you there and it was the right decision, you just built that muscle. You know, it's not like the gym. You can't do 10 push ups and get a six pack. And I look ripped. You know, I got to keep working out and build that muscle in the same way. I have to do that with the Lord speaking to me.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. Are you still doing the street interviews?

[Bryce Crawford]

Absolutely. Street interviews, podcasts. And, you know, I think that we, like you do right now, you have gentle, respectful conversations with people. How are we ever going to progress in society if we can't have respectful conversations?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I'm very curious man about converting to Christianity. Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

What draws you to Christianity?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

You opened my eyes when you came on a year ago. And then since I've had on a lot of pastor pastors and interesting guests that are Christian, and I've had on Islam guests as well. I've had on Jewish guests, Judaism guests. But Christianity seems to be. Because I used to be Christian.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So it seems to be drawing me the most out of the three.

[Bryce Crawford]

What's kind of like with like. Like you say like you're interested in converting, but what kind of is like, the hesitation factor for you?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Modern churches.

[Bryce Crawford]

Modern churches, yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

How they become like some of them, not all of them have become a business.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

They put the business first.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. You know, I think it's interesting because, like, here in Western America, and I'm appreciative for my Protestant evangelical churches. I'm a Protestant.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

But we've turned to smoke machines and manufacturing experiences in the church. And what I love about my Catholic friends and my Orthodox friends is that they value tradition, you know, and so, you know, it's like one bad apple doesn't ruin the bunch.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Agreed.

[Bryce Crawford]

You know, it's kind of like that comparison, like looking at saying, oh, well, I've had a bad experience with this church, so probably every church is like that. That would be the equivalent of me saying, every Muslim's a terror.

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[Bryce Crawford]

You know, that's obviously not true. And so if that's the case, then I have to go. Okay, well, even though there's some bad apples, God, would you help me, bring me to people that actually care? You know, I'll give you a prime example. There's a church in my hometown where I grew up, a very large church. And the pastor of the church at the time had stolen money from the church, cheated on his wife and Iran.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow.

[Bryce Crawford]

And so everyone had a bad perspective of this church in my hometown. And then this new pastor comes in, who's a mentor and someone that speaks into my life. Who is the most honest, full of integrity, kind, gentle, respectful man.

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[Bryce Crawford]

And then this new pastor comes in who's a mentor and someone that speaks into my life, who is the most honest, full of integrity, kind, gentle, respectful man. You don't have to question his heart. Now, it's interesting. Same church building, right? But two different people. And so we tend to blame God for things that broke, for decisions that broken people make. And I think that's important for us to recognize in some of those moments. And so, bro, my biggest encouragement to you is, man, keep finding that church. Find that church. Because I promise you there are people that have integrity, that love God, that care about people and not about money. And it's an unfortunate thing that sometimes people make Christianity about money. But those are the same people Jesus was flipping tables for in the temple because they were making a quick buck off of new converts, right? He's like, my house is not a House of robbers. I'm not robbing people and stealing money from them. I want intimate relationship with them. And that makes me so excited that

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

you're thinking, yeah, I'll make the commitment on air that next year I will attend a church in Vegas, maybe a couple.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's amazing.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I'll make that commitment on air. Praise God.

[Bryce Crawford]

That gets me excited. When we pass through, I'll have to go with you. That'd be a bless.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, that'd be awesome, dude. Now, obviously a hot topic these days is a spread of Islam to the West. Have you been having conversations with a lot of people in the Muslim religion?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, I'm actually about to have one today here in a few hours. A debate or mosque? Yeah, yeah, I guess a debate or conversation. You know, I. Here's the thing. I've become really passionate about Islam. Really. And I love my Muslim friends and I have Muslim friends. And you know, I say this with all due respect, but from a Christian perspective, I believe Islam is the Antichrist. That's why. That's my personal perspective. That may seem very strong, but when I compare Christianity to Islam, a lot of the positive things in Islam seem to be negative things in correlation to Christianity. It's the fastest growing religion in the West. Their perspective on Jesus is not one that he's got, it's that he's a prophet and that is going to return to the Mecca and pray a prayer to Allah in the end times. And there's so many things. And as much as I love my Muslim friends, I disagree. But I have a lot of compassion for my Muslim friends. And here's why. There's a lot of Christians that yell at my. That yell at Muslims that get upset at them and this, this and that. But here's the thing. If a Muslim decided that they were going to deconvert from Islam, they're losing their family. Islam isn't just a religion for a Muslim. It's their blood. It's in their blood. It's their culture, it's their thing. And so if a Muslim said they were going to deconvert and they lose their family, they lose their friends, they lose their loved ones, they get. They get disowned, basically. And Christians like to yell at them and say, you're wrong, you're wrong and convert. And if a Muslim converts, they don't do anything to bring that family, to bring that friendship in there. That's the purpose of the church. You know, the church needs to step up and do a better job of friendship and loving on People because, you know, if they're going to get.

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[Bryce Crawford]

Give up family and loved ones because they believe God, Jesus is the truth. Then we as Christians better do a better job of stepping up and being that substitute of friendship and family that they're losing, you know? And so ultimately, I think Islam is spreading, but ultimately I don't think Islam is the only cancer. Sin is the cancer. Bible's very clear, sin is the cancer. And sin is perversion from the truth. And I believe Islam is one of those many perversions.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So do you believe the two can exist in America, Christianity and Islam.

[Bryce Crawford]

I mean, me personally, I want everyone to be a Christian. I want everyone to follow Jesus, but that's because I believe he's the truth.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

You know, and many Muslims here in America would say, oh, well, Christians are people of the book, Jews are people of the book. You know, this isn't that. But ultimately, deep down, they want everyone to convert to Islam. And you know, I don't, I. According to Christianity, Jesus says he is the truth. He's not a truth. You know, he is the truth. And if he makes a truth claim that he is the only way, he literally said, no one comes to the Father except through him, then my perspective about Jesus has to be very interesting. I can't look at him as just a prophet. He's the bridge. He is the bridge. And so I have to trust what he says. And then that goes down the rabbit hole of is Jesus a man of his word? Was he worth being worshiped? And did he raise from the dead? Because if he only died, he's no different than you and me. Right. So that's the main question. Did he raise from the dead? And I believe many eyewitnesses would say raised from the dead. So much so they were willing to die for the fact that he raised from the dead. And so I'm going to put all my poker chips in on, on Jesus.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

You know, have you read the Quran?

[Bryce Crawford]

I've read the Quran, a little bit of the Quran. I'm in the process of reading it front to cover because I ought to do my due diligence. They also have hadiths.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

In Islam, which I think are very important to read.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Really?

[Bryce Crawford]

I think they're very important to read. Because in Islam, it may not be the Quran, but they cling to the hadiths for tradition and doctrine. And so I think it's very important to read the hadiths, especially Sahir Bukhari. I might have pronounced that wrong, but Bukhari was Muhammad's best friend and he writes some very trustworthy hadiths, particularly pertaining to Aisha, you know, the six year old that he married and the nine year old that he sexually mounted. And I think it's very interesting that we read these accounts and know that Bakari himself didn't want that to happen. He himself didn't want that. And Muhammad made it clear to him, allah will kill you if you don't give Aisha to me. And I, I have a really big problem with that. And I, I don't like that. And I, you know, it rubs me the wrong way as I think it would rub a lot of people the wrong way.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, that's y'. All.

[Bryce Crawford]

But yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Do you also have a problem with Sharia law? Because there's reports now in Dearborn, Michigan, which you should go to. I think that'd be a good video landing on it. Yeah. That they're operating on some Sharia law out there now.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. Sharia law is true Islam. Sharia law is true Islam. And so I would argue that the Muslims in the Middle east would look at Americanized Muslims and consider them woke.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. What's happening in Dearborn, Michigan is real true Islam. And they're not afraid. They're not backing down. You know, people will be punished if you don't listen to them. The women completely cover themselves and they shut up and they don't talk and all this crazy stuff. And my concern is we need Jesus not just the antidote for Islam, but the antidote for sin and antidote for everything. We need Jesus. He is the antidote. He's the only God out of any religion that comes down off the mountain and brings the antidote to the people, rather than the people having to work for the antidote. And so I do believe it's a danger. I do believe it's a cancer. But the only thing that will get us through Shahira law or corruption in government or any sort of sin is Jesus. He's the antidote.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow. You stay pretty out of politics, Right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Well, here's the thing. You know, we label things like homosexuality and transgenderism as abortion, as politics. It's worldview. People want to label politics because they want to start strife and arguments, but it's worldview. You got to respect Worldview. You know, at the end of the day, these are. These views and positions, sure, they can be associated with a certain political party, but it's deeper than that. I, as a Christian, don't support abortion because I believe life is valuable, and I'm a Christian. That's a worldview perspective. Right. Same thing with homosexuality and transgenderism. I think that they're valuable because they're made in God's image, but I believe it's a sin to be. To be gay or trans because that's not God's original design for people. And that's not a political view. That's just my worldview according to Christianity.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

You're right, though. They try to politicize those takes.

[Bryce Crawford]

I agree.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, 100%. Does it mention gay people in the Bible?

[Bryce Crawford]

It talks about homosexuality in Leviticus, it talks about not lying with a man as a man, just as you would lie with a woman. And those are. When you read the Greek and the Hebrew, the language that they use when it talks about homosexuality, laying with a man as you would with a woman. The language is used in moral law. You know, morality doesn't change. You know, moral law would be considered murder, lying, adultery, all of these things. And in that same passage in Leviticus that it talks about homosexuality.

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[Bryce Crawford]

He also talks about bestiality. Really? Yeah. And I think. I think. I don't know. I don't know about you, but I have a pretty big problem with bestiality

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

to mention that in the same.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yes, it's pretty interesting. And so I think. And Even in Romans 1, Paul addresses the issues in the Church of Corinth. There was a lot of sexual immorality going on in the Church of Corinth as well, and many of these issues. And so. But. But, you know, again, I have compassion on my people, part of the LGBTQ community, because Christians have looked at them as of lesser moral value because of their sexuality.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

And for anyone that has received that end of a bad representative of a bad representation of Christianity. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You are not of more or lesser moral value because of your sexuality.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Really?

[Bryce Crawford]

The Bible would say everyone is of equal value because they're Made in the image of God. Basic economics is whatever price tag is on an item is what people are willing to pay for it. You know, you can go to Macy's and get a fur coat for $100, but if people don't buy it, it ends up at TJ Maxx for $19.99, because people didn't think it was worth $100 paying for.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

And so the question I asked myself is, what's the price God puts on my life? What's the price God puts on a gay person's life? What's the price God puts on a trans person's life? What's the price God puts on a homeless man's life? What's the price God puts on a rich man's life? What's the price God puts on a Muslim person's life? And it's all the same. And he said the price is his own life. Wow. And that's very interesting, because God in His nature doesn't know death. He's eternal. He's always existed. He's the first and the last. No one's come before him or after him. And death is not in his nature. But he humbled himself enough to take death on a cross, to become so close to humanity and that death. Because if we have an infinite debt towards God, only an eternal payment can be made. And Jesus was at eternal payment. And he says the price and the value he puts on every human being's life is his own. And so why is it that we treat people with partiality just because they identify with a different sexuality or because they identify with a different religion? I want everyone to know Jesus and want everyone to know the truth. But I don't love you more or less because of who you are, where you come from, how you were raised. And I think we need more of that.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

And that's an interesting take, that he values all life the same, because in certain other religions, that's not the case.

[Bryce Crawford]

Correct? Right, correct.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

In some major ones, yes.

[Bryce Crawford]

I think it's very important. And Jesus loves all people. Right. But, you know, my dad loved me, but he didn't let me eat ice cream every morning for breakfast because he knew it was damaging to me. And so if I believe that Jesus is the truth and I believe that he is God, then there's this humility factor that comes in where I'm trusting that his way is better than my way, you know, and even if it doesn't make sense in the moment and digging and trusting in God, again, that's Always the biggest part, trusting God. God, why do I have to do this thing? Why am I trusting you? And so, constant battle.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. I love how you're always pursuing the truth, man.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Like, I stay open minded even though you, you've done a lot of research.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, thank you. I really appreciate it.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

It's a rare combination, you know what I mean?

[Bryce Crawford]

Thank you, man. I appreciate that.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Super kind. Has anyone recently changed your opinion or mind on anything when it comes to Christianity?

[Bryce Crawford]

I'm always learning. I'm diving deeper, more into Catholicism and orthodoxy. Not that I plan on converting, but I think that they have a beautiful view of the sacraments like communion and baptism and confession that I think Protestantism has kind of lost touch with. And so, to my Catholic brothers and sisters and Orthodox friends, thank you. You know, I appreciate the encouragement. I think it's beautiful. I'm looking a lot into that and listening to a man named Father Lazarus, who's a Coptic Catholic in Long Beach. Father Lazarus is beautiful. He has some incredible takes and opinions and I just. I really enjoy him.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I would love to see you with Alex o'. Connor. I've done that.

[Bryce Crawford]

I've messaged him about a year ago and I would love to chat with him. You know, I think it's great.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I'll set that up for you.

[Bryce Crawford]

That would be great.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I know his team.

[Bryce Crawford]

That would be a blessing.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That'd be a very high level conversation, I think.

[Bryce Crawford]

I would love to chat with him. I think it'd be awesome.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. He's a phenomenal debater and he seems

[Bryce Crawford]

like a sweet human and I've heard other great things about him. So that'd be. That'd be a really blessing. Thank you.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Hell, yeah. How's your podcast doing?

[Bryce Crawford]

Podcast is great. You know, God's moving. We're doing in a series right now, breaking down a book, a chapter of Luke every day for 24 days and teaching the Bible and. And then on the new year, we have an episode releasing with Tucker Carlson. We sat down with him yesterday.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

How was that?

[Bryce Crawford]

It was great. It was phenomenal. It was fun. He's charismatic and witty and I love it. It's always good to have fun conversations.

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[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Well, dude, thanks for your time. We'll link all your socials.

[Bryce Crawford]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, check them out, guys. See you next time.

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