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Build a Better You: Spiritual Insights for Modern Leaders | Pamela Downes DSH #1294
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🌟 Build a Better You with spiritual insights designed for modern leaders! 🌟 In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Pamela to explore her incredible journey of spiritual awakening, overcoming fear, and stepping into...
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Pamela
We're supposed to build a portal for humanity. And I was like, what? And we both started crying. Well, Spirit knew how busy I was with creating all these other things in my life. They answered my call that said, give me the people, give me all the things. And she helped me build it while I was doing my other stuff, and I launched it in January.
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Sean Kelly
Okay, guys, Pamela here. Only her second in person interview ever, so I'm honored you chose this platform.
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Pamela
I'm so excited to be here. I've been waiting for this conversation.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah, it's important, right? You're on a big journey right now.
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Pamela
I am. Big mission. Lots of stepping into courage, out of fear, into what I'm supposed to do with my soul's purpose for the rest of my life. And being on these podcasts, no matter how, you know, courageous, I need to pull from all the different pockets that I have to do it. I do it because I know that the universe is putting these pieces in front of me, and I need to follow them, and I need to do it. And that. That stems from my story and how everything started. And when I started hearing the visions or the messages and seeing the visions and hearing all of the things, getting the premonitions, and I was on, like, a fast track to here today. So thanks for having me.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah. Let's dive into your story. It was a spiritual awakening all of a sudden, right?
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Pamela
Yeah, it was in 2008, 2012, in that time when the world was shifting. I started just not understanding religion and resonating with all of the rules and doctrines and all the things. And I had big questions. They weren't being answered. I didn't like the answers I was getting. And they kept saying, well, if God is love, then how am I gonna die? And then he's gonna say, you are going to heaven or you are going to hell for. For the rest of your. For eternity. And I was like, that's not love. That's, like, the opposite of love. And I just started this journey of wanting to know more and wanting to know more. And I didn't know it, but I was starting my spiritual awakening journey, and I was learning about other worlds and reiki and healing and chakras and, like, all of the stuff that ultimately brought, you know, the people that were in my life to start to slowly fall off of the game board. And new people came onto the game board that were, like, the right people at the right time. And so I had this experience growing up where I lived in a family where my. My dad was an alcoholic and, you know, it was. I was fearful of him. I didn't feel safe at home. And a lot of the experiences that I had with him were really traumatic and difficult, but I always felt like that there was something more for me. So growing up, I was fearful of my dad, and, you know, I was stifled with my voice. And there were a lot of experiences where I couldn't say what I felt or stand up for something that I believed in. And, you know, there's. We come down in soul packs with our families, and we make agreements that someone's going to show up this way and someone else is going to show up this way just to support the advancement of your soul. And my advancement was to step on platforms ultimately to get me here to talk about spirituality, to help humankind in the shift of awareness that's happening right now. So all of the experiences I had where I questioned, what is religion and what is Reiki, and what is this and what is that? It brought me to here right now. And one of the most profound experiences that I had in my life was doing plant medicine. I was called to do ayahuasca after I went down the Reiki path and after I went down the Akashic record path, and after I went down, like, all these, working with different energy healers and opening up my chakras and slowly raising my frequency and my vibration to get to a point where I was able to receive more information slowly as I traveled and journey down that path. And one of the things that I kept hearing was that, you know, you are here for something greater. Like, you're not here just for. To be in marketing and branding or just to have a family or whatever. You have a mission. You have something important that you're bringing to the world.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
So I was, you know, on the journey of trying to understand religion and trying to understand spiritual things, like where did Jesus go all those years and where did he disappear to and where did he travel to? What did Mary Magdalene do? And, like, all this stuff. And I was going down the rabbit hole of trying to gobble up information, and I found this video. I think the guy that did one of the Ayahuasca documentaries. Was his name Zippo or Zap. Zappy or something?
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Sean Kelly
Zappy. Zappalin.
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Pamela
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was one of the first videos that I watched, which brought me to this video that Gerald Powell did. And he talked about how he was a hotelier and he was addicted to sex, to drugs, to alcohol, to gambling, to everything. And he was going down this path of demise. Like, he wasn't going to continue to be able to live this way. And he was traveling, he was in an airplane, and a friend reached out to him and said, I'm going to do ayahuasca. This is something that maybe you should consider doing. And he was like, nah, I'm not going to do that. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. And she goes, I knew you'd say that. I knew you wouldn't do it. And that challenged him. And he wound up going to the jungle and doing another plant medicine. Not a wise. Something different. He cured his addiction. He cured everything.
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Sean Kelly
Wow.
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Pamela
And he took. You should interview him. He's really cool. He took all of his skills, as we are all doing, and he created healing centers. And so rythmia Life advancement center in Costa Rica was. Was the place that he created him. As soon as I saw it, I was like, that's where I'm going. I just knew I was going there. I didn't know how I was going to go. I didn't know how I would pay for it. And then through this. This course of events, of meeting this person who introduced me to this person who introduced me to this person, which is what would happen on my spiritual awakening journey. The right people would start coming and the wrong people would start leaving, and opportunities would start happening. And I had to say yes to them. And I continued to say yes to them. And it brought me to meeting this woman who said, pamela, I'd love to do trade. We do marketing for our. For our company. And I said, yeah. And part of the trade was going to the symposium down in Florida. And so I went down to the symposium in Florida, and the owner of the company was there. And I walked up to him and I said, hey, Steve, I'm Pamela. We never met. I'm doing your marketing and working with your employee. And he looked at me. I looked at him. This energy shot through my head, out my heart and his, and it went. He looked at me and I went. He goes, do you feel that? And I said, yeah, I do. I feel that. So I went back after the symposium to my house. I'm working. I'm on a zoom call. I look down and my phone is this weird number. And I'm like, I hear Steve in my head. I finished my call. I look, got a voicemail from him. I listened to it. He's like, pamela, this is Steve. I want to talk to you about that experience. I want to discover more about what that was. Well, we wound up becoming really good friends. He said to me, he goes, I don't typically talk to people about this, but I'm ready, getting ready to go on a trip. I'm going to do plant medicine, I'm going to do ayahuasca. And I was like, you're going to do ayahuasca? I was like, I'm feeling called to do ayahuasca. And he goes, I said, I'm going to be going to Rythmia Life Advancement center in Costa Rica. He goes, pamela, I'm going there in November. And these aren't things that people talk about all the time. Nobody's talking about that with work, no one. And I said, oh my God. I wound up becoming really good friends with him. And I kept hearing, he's going to invite you to this retreat, he's going to invite you. And I said, well, we'll see if that happens. So he called me and he's like, pamela, I'm getting guidance that I'm supposed to invite you to go to this retreat. I'm a part of this group. One of the founders or the owners of Rythmia, he's like on the board or something is in my group. They're closing this place down the center down. There's only going to be 40 high conscious people that are going, you'll love them, you pay your way, come down and be with us. And I was like, like I didn't have to figure out how to get there. Universe was like, come on girl, we're going to bring you. And you've got work to do and you need to level up really quickly and do some healing work to get your vibration in a place where you can work with higher dimensional beings and you can receive premonitions and downloads and visions and you can channel and work with individuals who need help on their spiritual awakening journey. And the rest you know, of that story I didn't hear at that time. But through my awakening process after the week long journey of working with ayahuasca, I kept on experiencing past life stuff, this life stuff, memories from my childhood were piecing together with information that I was receiving from my guides in that state of Ayahuasca. And I started having all these realizations and I started releasing trauma and my vibration started raising and raising and raising. My frequency was raising and raising. And at the end of that journey, that week long retreat, we did ayahuasca four days in a row, like multiple times each day. At the end of that we did a breathwork class. Yeah, I had A white light shoot through my third eye. Fill my entire body up with this love frequency. And my body was buzzing, my teeth were chatter, shattering. And I heard everything from this moment forward will be different. Your psychic abilities have been enhanced. And I was out of breath and I was like in awe and I was crying and it was just incredible.
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Sean Kelly
That's beautiful.
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Pamela
It was amazing, Sean. Like, I knew that I was being placed there. I knew that I was supposed to go there only because I was having the knowings. But when I was there, it was scary. Like, part of my work was to work through fear. Part of this life's work is to work through fear, to be able to come to the Sean Kelly conversation today. Right?
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Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
And to do this kind of work, to bring it to the world. And I, every time I got up to go take a cup of that sacred plant medicine, I had to work through fear. And everyone that I was with, they were conscious leaders. They were people who were already working out in the world. They had already written books, they already had platforms, they already had retreats. People were paying to work with them. They were very well known people. You would know them. And I kept saying, why am I here, spirit? Why am I here? It was because the frequency of all of those people that were in the room with me was high. And a lot of times when people go to do sacred plant medicine, they're like Gerald Powell. They're going to clear addiction, they're going to clear negative energies and attachments and they're going to heighten their frequency, to heal their soul, body, to ultimately heal and create a better experience for themselves in this three dimensional world. And, you know, being with those 40 high conscious people, they were there to hold me. They were there to create a safe container for me. And I can look at it now and know that that's what was happening. But at the time I was so fricking scared, but I had this pull, pulling me, pulling me, pulling me, pulling me to continue to get up, to continue to walk and stand in that line, to continue to receive this beautiful high frequency sacred plant medicine and energy of grandmother ayahuasca. And you know, I know we've talked about ayahuasca with other people. There's a reverence there, there is an intention there. From the moment that the plant is in the ground to when it gets picked and, and put into the, you know, the experience of creating the sacred tea. And every part of it is with intention and with, with ceremony and with music and with reverence. By the time you are Ingesting it. Like, people think it's just something to do, or they think, like, it's something that's cool, but you really have to have a calling. It has to be super intentional because it's no joke. Yeah, it's no joke.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah. A lot of people are taking it recreationally now.
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Pamela
They are. And I, I've heard other people talking about, like, yeah, I did ayahuasca. I went to this guy's house in California. I went out to the mountains in Arizona, and this guy was holding space. And they have like, you know, big backyard. And I'm like, oh, my goodness. Like, you know, everyone's on their own journey and everyone is experiencing what they're supposed to experience. Spirit knew that I had a lot of fear. Spirit knew I needed to work through the fear to get to the next phase of what my work was. So that's why I believe I was picked up and I was put into that space. I don't have a calling to do. Like, it'll start to, like, speak to you a little bit. And so it comes up in conversation or there's synchronicities and, like, people will talk about it or there'll be some sort of an introduction to somebody who. And like, that is starting. So I see that the future is unfolding that. And I'll bring my community down there. But through that, after that experience of everything has changed, your psychic abilities have enhanced. That was in November of 2019. I went home. You know what happened? Yeah, the pandemic happened. And I sat. I suddenly had this bank of time and I sat every morning. Like, you're in such a high frequency when you're, when you're with the plant medicine, when you're in the jungle, you have the energy of the jungle. You're eating vegan, so you're eating the super high frequency foods. You're doing song. You're with high energy people in the space. Like, everything. When you come home, you come back to this three dimensional experience where this dense energy is around you and suddenly you have calendar invitations and you've got schedules and all these things that you have to do. And you're like, I mean, what am I doing?
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Sean Kelly
The Matrix?
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Pamela
You have this, this crazy shift of understanding because your awareness opens profoundly and because of the vibration that I was in, because of what it is that I'm supposed to do now, moving forward after that. I knew I was supposed to sit with intention every morning. I knew I was supposed to sit with intention every morning. And we had this huge block of time because the world shut down. So every morning I would sit and I had this bank of windows in front of me with nature. And they would say, and I tell the people that I work with, I would sit with intention, close my eyes and cross my arms and my legs and say, universe, I am here, guides, I am here. I am here to work with you to create this relationship. I want to know more, I want to understand more. Let's do this together. You know, it's not like, show me a feather, show me a balloon, give me a sign, is there a bird? It's about, like, intention and open vulnerability to understanding that you there's so much greater than you, but you at the same time are connected to all that is right. And I am in this with you. And let's do this. So right in the very beginning, this amazing, gorgeous group of divine feminine energies that were super high frequency, super bland came in. I could feel their energy come in. I could feel my body start to vibrate. I could feel lightness. I could feel love permeate my whole entire body. And when I knew that they came in, I knew that I was about to do more of the soul work that I had done at Rhythmia. So I would start to experience past life deaths. And I would experience it. I would feel the trauma of it. I would almost be like a fly on the wall witnessing myself going through the experience of it again. And I went through so many past life experiences where I physically had to experience it. Then I had to release the feelings and the trauma and the pain of it. So I would cry and release all of that emotion. And then it was processed and it kind of got processed through my soul body. And every time I did that, my frequency would rise. My frequency would rise. I would, you know, heighten and heighten until one day, like light language, I could feel this thread just start coming. Like it just came into the back of my head and I started. I have it all recorded. I would write it down every day. And as I would have visions, I would draw them. I started having experiences with interdimensional beings.
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Sean Kelly
Okay, so you mentioned interdimensional beings. When did that start happening?
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Pamela
Yeah, it started happening after Rythmia when I was working with the guides every morning. And I used to joke and say I was like a galactic hotel. There were so many beings that wanted to come in and experience, allow me to experience them and their energy. So after the high vibration feminine energy beings would come in to help me do my healing work. That's when I started My very first guide that I met through energy work with someone else, actually, was a Pleiadian guide named Avril. And I've seen him in my meditations. I've seen him in my mind's eye. He's this tall, statuesque, absolutely beautiful male. You know, I can identify as his visual as male, and he's always on my right hand side. And I don't know, we have some sort of a contract that he needs to be with me. But then all of these different beings started connecting with me, and I really didn't have a tribe. I really didn't have a community. I only had a couple people that I did work with here and there. That's part of why I do the work that I do today, so that people have a place to be able to, like, feel supported, to be able to talk about the experiences that. That they're having. But I would have. I had to understand the density, the frequency, the experience of each being in their different dimension, of their vibration, so that I could learn the contrast, so that I could learn and experience the highs and I could learn and experience the lows. They work together. That's the only way you can understand them. Right. So there were different beings that would come in, they would speak different language, they felt a different way. I could feel the density of, like, how they would present if they were in. In their dimension and they would like to come in and everything. So I had to learn how to harness myself. I had to learn how to be able to work with them. And that was like, over the course of like a year.
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Sean Kelly
Wow.
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Pamela
Working. I know. Yeah. That's why I say everything that I have done that I have found the courage to do every time I step through fear. And then an opportunity comes and I gobble it up, because I know I'm supposed to now. I feel in alignment with it, and I know that it's there for a reason. I move through fear and I get to the next thing. This was part of that. And I started channeling the light language, and each one of them would speak their language and I would feel everything about them. And then I didn't know it, but I was get. One of the first beings that came through was Thoth.
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Sean Kelly
Wow.
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Pamela
And Ra. So if you were able to see the council come in on the last podcast where you. You saw me, that dude, dynamic energy raw is like that times 10. And that was scary. And I had to, like, go through it, understand it, harness it, walk away from it, like, you know, And Thoth was incredible. An Incredible, incredible experience. A friend connected me to someone that works with Thoth, so I was able to, like, understand all of that. And then I started getting visions, I started getting premonitions, I started getting downloads. I started working with the Great Council of Light, which is who I work with now. They're creator beings. They are very, extremely powerful, very divine loving beings. Their whole intention is to help humankind through this shift right now that we're on with planet Earth consciousness. And they would come in and they started talking to me, talking to me about the experiences that I was having, talking to me about what I was going through. They started giving me visions at night, showing me things that were coming to our planet, not telling me when. And I have to learn. I live in a three dimensional reality. Time and space is completely different than in their dimensions and their frequency. And they would start talking to me about what was coming. They would start telling me that there's going to be a financial collapse. They would start telling me that there was going to be a war. They would start telling me that, you know, all of the things that were coming there would be. I would see things like, you know, Charlie was joking about, like, California and like, I've seen the side of California falling off. I've seen, I've had so many dreams about tsunamis and, you know, all of these things. So I would record them, I would write them down, I would allow, I would sit in allowance and people would say, how can you do that? It sounds so fearful. How could you do that? But I understood that there was a purpose because of all of the synchronicities that happened that were showing me that I needed to dive into this as well. I needed to give this the space to learn about it. I needed to experience this and I needed to push through the fear of this. And I woke up in the middle of the night in 2020 and I heard spirit calling, spirit calling. And I was like, what is that? So I woke up and I wrote the name down because I was having all kinds of messages. I had a notebook next to my bed or I would do a voice, voice recording. And I woke up and I bought the URL. I bought the domain in the morning and I just put it away, forgot all about it. And over the course of a year, I kept hearing from the council, you are to build a portal. I didn't know what a portal was. I was like, what the frick is a portal? They're like, you are to build a portal for humanity. There's going to be a glass Ceiling that breaks. People are going to stop in their tracks. They're not going to know who and what they have believed in their entire life. Everything they've known to be. Their reality is going to shift in a moment. They need a safe place to land. You need to create that. And I was like, are you like, huh? Are you serious? I'm like, I mean, I'm not joking when I said I didn't even know what a portal was. I'm in branding and marketing my entire career. I'm like, it's a website. Like, I know how to do that, right? And so I just kind of pushed it aside, wrote it down, pushed it aside, and at the end of that year, about a year later, I woke up in the middle of the night and I saw this set of wings flying down a vision onto the face of an iPhone. And I got up, I got my color pencils out, and I drew it. I still have it. And I kind of put it aside. A couple weeks later, I had to go on to GoDaddy for somebody's domain or something. And I saw spirit calling. It was like, it's the portal. It's the logo. It's. It's all of it. And it started putting itself together in front of my eyes. I didn't want to do it. I wasn't ready to do it. I had so many other things I had to do in my life. I was just starting a new business. I was, you know, creating this new version of myself. I was working with the guides. I was doing all this stuff. And then finally it was like gnawing, gnawing, gnawing. You have to create it. You have to create it. And I understand by these visions and understandings that I get from them that there's a window, and the window, it closes, like. And the more persistent they are, like, there's a pathway, a timeline that I need to get on board with and make these changes and move forward with. And I said, fine, fine. Send me the people, send me the money, send me all the things. Out of the blue, this woman who lived in my town came to me and said, pamela, I need you to rebrand my business. I need you to do a logo, do all the things. I said, sure. We wound up working on it. At the end of one of our meetings, she said, pamela, can you hang on after the team leaves? I said, sure. She was a Reiki person. She did reiking. And she said, I received a download last night, and she knew nothing about this, that we're supposed to work On a different project. We're supposed to build a portal for humanity. And I was like, what? And we both started crying. Well, Spirit knew how busy I was with creating all these other things in my life. They answered my call that said, give me the people, give me all the things. And she helped me build it while I was doing my other stuff. And I launched it in January of 2024. And it is where I share the messages of the Great Council of Lights. It is my life's greatest work. It is me putting myself out in this way to share my premonitions, to share my visions, to share my downloads. And, you know, again, that that wasn't easy for me to do because it's my soul work now in this lifetime, to really step fully into this, to not be fearful of all those past lives I just talked about where I had to experience those deaths to get through to the next thing. It's me now showing up to do this. So, yeah, what a story. Yeah, it's an amazing story. There's so many pieces that I left out. They told me to sell my house. They showed me visions of when I needed to move and so that I would have the funding to do certain things. I constantly am putting this belief and understanding that this is what my future is at the forefront. Because once you understand that, you've come here many, many, many, many times before to do this work, to support people in their spiritual awakening, advancement in the advancement of their soul, and that you've been tortured, you've been killed, you've been burned, you've been torn apart, you've been hung, you've been water tortured, you've been all the things you've been, all the things. You think about that version of yourself that stepped up so many fricking times, how can I turn my head? How can I deny that? How can I do it? Couple that with all of the visions, with all of the synchronicities, with all of the support that the universe continues to give all of us when we step into our soul's purpose. It's time. It's time you see the world around us. You see what's happening. You see that we live in a world that was created for us. We live in a world of conditions. We live in a world of restriction. We are omnipotent, beautiful, vast, powerful beings of light that come down here to occupy this meat suit, to have experiences, to learn love, right? And we come down here and other worlds to do that. And, you know, it's our greatest lesson, is to learn Love. It's to learn. Love. And we've been dumbed down and born into a system where we're not told that we are connected to all that is. We are not told about our chakra system, the energy system that runs our body. We are not told about our pineal gland and the crystals inside of it and how it's allowing us to connect to the presence around us. And we're not told that we are the manifestors of our reality, that anything that we want is available to us if we believe it, if we understand that we are worthy of it. And that's what the council primarily talks about. You know, the beings that run our world have implemented our food systems, our financial systems, our education, our healthcare, all of it to create us to be small, to keep us in a space where we don't know how big and wondrous and amazing that we are. So we're all starting to wake up to it. Yeah, we're all starting to understand all of that. The guidance. I was in meditation. I was channeling messages for my community. Every month I channel a message and we learn. They teach through me. They teach. It's not me, it's them. And I was channeling my message and this pineal gland meditation, activation meditation came out and it said, you need to do this. Like, they're giving me 500 things to juggle at the same time. I'm like, guys, I'm running two businesses. I got. Cause I gotta found, like I have all the things that everybody has. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'll get to it. And it's to help. They said people need assistance in awakening their pineal gland to help them receive that higher guidance to help them navigate these changes that are happening now on planet Earth.
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Sean Kelly
That's important.
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Pamela
It's really important. Yeah.
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Sean Kelly
A lot of people are blocked. Right. Their pineal glands have been suppressed intentionally. Yeah. Calcified through like everything. Right. The 5G, the tap water, programming in the media.
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Pamela
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Sean Kelly
I see that all the time.
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Pamela
Yeah.
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Sean Kelly
That's why I think someone like Trump and RFK are huge in waking people up too.
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Pamela
I agree. Disruptors and wakers. Yeah, absolutely. And everyone can have like. This is one of the things that the guides talk about all the time. Stop taking sides, stop fighting. You're just feeding into it.
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Sean Kelly
Right.
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Pamela
They want you to fight. They want you to be distracted. They want you to occupy your mind with worry and thoughts, you know?
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Sean Kelly
Yeah. A lot of fights. You got the political fight, you got the male versus female battle.
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Pamela
Yeah.
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Sean Kelly
You got the religion battle.
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Pamela
Yeah. Go on social media. I can't follow it anymore. You know, I have to. For my team to spread the message of the Council and what my purpose is like. I feel really tremendously sad for a lot of the people that I know that they just can't wait to fight. They can't wait to comment, they can't wait to reply, they can't wait to post. They just can't wait to do. They're just feeding in to the collective energy of chaos.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
Which is disturbing their energy body, their thoughts, their manifestation, their ability to create what they want to create. They're getting caught up in that web, you know, and that's what the Council talks about. Stop the fighting. What are you fighting about?
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Sean Kelly
I wonder if we can ever get to that point.
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Pamela
Well, I've. They've talked about a future version of a new Earth where we are using all of our clairsenses, where we are using inter. We're connecting and talking without speaking, you know, where we're our primary focus. It's like completely flipping what we have right now upside down. Where we're working together in unison. Where we are, you know, being creative with our understanding of solutions of our planet and using our resources and, you know, caring about people, caring about. With love as our focus. I want to live there.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah. Atlantis days, right? Yeah. Because when money's the number one thing for people to chase, it's hard to get in that mindset. I think about others, you know, being community oriented.
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Pamela
Absolutely.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
And that's what I think is so beautiful about what the guides. I mean, I created it only because, like, I would say I'm the director, you know, the. Like, I'm the project manager, basically. And I have to put my face on it because the guides need me to. To channel their messages. But that's what's so beautiful about the platform. It's like you can't really. You have to be so careful about voicing what you really feel. Not just in the world today, but just about kind of what we're talking about. Like, I've had this experience in the middle of the night. I am seeing colors on the peripheral of my eyes. I am hearing things. And then someone I know will call me, and it's the person that I was hearing was going to call me. Like, you can't sit around a boardroom or at work or the water cooler and talk about these things. It's not received.
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Sean Kelly
They'll label you crazy.
- [32:30]
Pamela
Correct. You know, I've always been strange and different and weird since I was a kid, and that's fine. But the community that I created, you can talk about the bumps in the night. You can talk about the vibrations in your heart. You can talk about the experiences that you're having. You can ask the questions. No question is too weird, strange, like, you know, and that's the beauty of it. Because someone's there and say, I experienced that. I'll message you privately. We can talk about it. There's aligned professionals in there that can help you if you need to shift your vibration or work on your soul body or whatever it is. And that's the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing about it. Because I know in my family, I don't know about you and yours. Like, we all have our families. There's disruptors in that soul family. I'm the. I'm a disruptor. I'm the one who left religion. I'm the one who is channeling angelic beings. Them.
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Sean Kelly
I'm the black sheep in mine, too.
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Pamela
You're the black sheep in yours. So we have large missions, you know, and you're discovering it like you're awakening on a platform where the world. And that's what the guy just channeled in your message, where they're watching you reveal and understand, like real time. And it's amazing where I can't sit at Christmas, Like, I don't even talk about what I do because they just. They can't understand it. Inside of places like my community and many, many, many others, you can talk about that. You know, you can feel like it's a safe space. And that's really very, very, very important for everyone right now. Because whether it's about spirituality, Sean, or whether it's just that, like, I'm seeing something different in the world that I didn't see before. And you're afraid to talk about it, but you need to express it, you need to release it, because you need to discover it, because you need to understand and expand your understanding of the world.
- [34:20]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
And with these shift that, these shifts that happen, the one I talked about when I received the download to create the community, I've channeled messages recently. There's going to be a great reveal now. The guides talked about, and I have a 2025 predictions and update energy update video on my YouTube channel. You can go check it out. The guides talked about a series of events that happen where, you know, much like Covid, but it's not that kind of event where everyone's perspectives change. What am I doing? What am I doing with my day? Who am I spending my time with? What am I consuming? What is my work? Life balance? What about my family? Like, everything shift shifted. The same thing is going to happen, but with our reality. Just like I was told in 2020 and this great reveal about what actually our world is and what it exists within. And you're the guest that we were just talking about. He talks about that the beings that run our planet, it's all going to be shown. And, you know, last year they talked about the music industry, people falling far, all of that being revealed. It's more of that's going to happen this year. So they're the moments when people are like, what I don't understand. The dark truths, the deep secrets, they're just skimming the surface now you've got people like Kat, who's talking about him. It's just the very, very beginning of it.
- [35:52]
Sean Kelly
Wow, that's crazy.
- [35:54]
Pamela
It's just the very, very beginning because.
- [35:55]
Sean Kelly
There'S billions of people in organized religion. They're going to start questioning their whole existence because their whole life they were taught about religion.
- [36:02]
Pamela
Yeah, yeah. And the guides talk about religion. You know, they always say that there's a. There's a shift happening specifically right now where people are trying to believe in something higher. There's a mass return to religion to something higher. There's other podcasts where they're talking about their religion. They're talking about God freely and often. And they're interviewing people who are portraying God on TV shows.
- [36:28]
Sean Kelly
Right.
- [36:29]
Pamela
You know, and people are like, they want it. They want to believe in something greater. Because our world is so effed up.
- [36:37]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [36:38]
Pamela
It's so messed up. And that's that natural progression towards love. Like, you'll always move. Like, you ultimately always want to move in a loving experience. Your body, your energy, always wants to experience a loving experience. You know, and the guides talk about, like, if people are searching for something that's greater, something greater to believe in, they're turning that dial. They're trying to figure it out. And so if they're getting what they need at that moment from that particular thing, it's okay. They're on their journey, they're on their path of discovering. Yeah.
- [37:13]
Sean Kelly
So a lot's gonna be revealed this year, huh?
- [37:15]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [37:16]
Sean Kelly
That's exciting.
- [37:17]
Pamela
Yeah, I know.
- [37:17]
Sean Kelly
I think it's needed. A lot of people, they call them NPCs or like, you know, robots or whatever, they're just living day to day with no. No free will, no thoughts.
- [37:26]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [37:26]
Sean Kelly
Controlled by the Matrix.
- [37:28]
Pamela
Yeah, we watched this movie that I bought from David Ike in 2020. I don't know if you know him.
- [37:33]
Sean Kelly
I heard of him.
- [37:34]
Pamela
I feel like you need to interview him, but he's not allowed to leave England.
- [37:38]
Sean Kelly
Oh, wow.
- [37:39]
Pamela
This man has been showing up, stepping up, being chastised, ridiculed for years. For years he's been doing this work. I don't know, 50 years. He had a realization. He had a download, much like I just talked about, where everything and all that is was told to him about the world and everything. Like, you can't turn away from it. You have to talk about it and try and share your knowledge. And it's those moments where, you know, he was ridiculed. He was told that he was like they created and Google, you know, they labeled him, they said what he was, and so people will repel from him.
- [38:18]
Sean Kelly
Conspiracy theorists.
- [38:19]
Pamela
Yes.
- [38:19]
Sean Kelly
Yeah, the timing is important that, that, that label.
- [38:23]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [38:23]
Sean Kelly
If you're too early, you get labeled that way, like Alex Jones or David Ike. So you need to be unified. You need to coordinate with other people and at least at the same time, that way, it's like a blitz strategy so you can't be targeted.
- [38:35]
Pamela
Yeah. So a lot of people are fearful and they're. They're receiving messages like, like the great council of light that I transfer. They're receiving them premonitions, visions, downloads from me and others with the level of fear that resonates, that they. That they vibrate in with the level of fear that resides in their soul body. So they're like a dog. They're, you know, they'll bark. They're scared at it because they're like, how could you do this? What could you do? How could. How could knowing this help us? Because I would prefer to know if something's coming. I would love to be prepared. Not only are they just talking about the premonitions and all the things, they're telling us how to raise our frequencies. They're actually teaching us. They're talking about love. They're talking and telling you what to do every single day to improve your life, to create a better life, to experience more love. They're the beautiful things. You know, we are down here now experiencing the contrast because that was our soul contract.
- [39:37]
Sean Kelly
Right. You know, have you ever channeled a message and you were like, oh, my gosh, I don't know if I could share this.
- [39:43]
Pamela
Yeah, it was hard for me for much of. From 2020 until actually last year. I was, I said this on, On Alex's show. I'm Like a belligerent child because of that fear. It's still resonating in me because I was, you know, all those things in past lives. Yeah, there's this, like, I performed in a band for 10 years, nearly 10 years. Really.
- [40:06]
Sean Kelly
Were you a singer?
- [40:07]
Pamela
Yeah. So I'm a musician and artist. We didn't really talk about that, but that's my. That was my story. So I'm a super empath. I didn't really understand what I was growing up. I. I just didn't understand that I was absorbing energy and I had anxiety because I was nervous and like, you know, all the things. And my. My path of perfection performance of getting out on that stage was imperative to here now, today, this, right now.
- [40:36]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [40:36]
Pamela
And I would push myself. There was something about getting on. I was in a. In a David Bowie tribute band. 26 member David Bowie tribute band. And we had a name for ourselves in Philadelphia. They're still all there, and I love them. But I knew I was supposed to get out there on that stage. I knew I had to push myself out there on that stage. I was afraid of forgetting lyrics. I was afraid of making a mistake. It's on my fear stuff. Every time I did it, I got more and more comfortable. I got more and more courage. I got more and more experience. And that brought me to here and now. But for all of 2024, until October, I was working out. And I, you know, I'm in the state of, like, I'm focused. And they're like, you need to share these premonitions. You need to share these visions. You need to share this stuff. And I'm like, I'm not ready. And I finished working out. I went up into the top floor of our townhouse.
- [41:33]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [41:34]
Pamela
And I sat on the couch and I said, you want me to do this? You want me to do this? And a bird flew in the fricking window right in front of my face. And I said, okay, I'll do it now. Like, they know they have to push me. Like, they. They like, do this stuff where it's like, do it or lose it. Do it or lose it. And. And it's not about losing or winning. I just want to preface that. It's about the. The path. It's about the timeline. It's about the courage. It's about the soul work. It's about all of the things. And so the bird flew into the window. And I was like, okay, yeah, fine. So I. That's the first premonition vision video, like, that's relevant. That I put in, put out in October. And I, you know, it was scary, and I was so authentic and real. Like, I don't try to put on any airs. I don't try to act like I know everything. I don't. I don't. I know my experience. I know what things feel for me, and I can talk about that. And if you want me to find out something about something, I'll bring in someone to help. That's what my community's about. But this guy came out of nowhere and he said to me, he's got a nice, like a smaller but larger than mine following on YouTube. And he goes, pamela, somebody sent me your video. And there's something about you. More people need to see your work. I want to have you on my live. And I was like, okay, right. So I went on his live, and all these new people came out of nowhere. They came to my community, they started following my channel. Everything shifted on my channels. And then out of nowhere, I've always. I always knew I was going to go on Alex's show. I always saw myself having a conversation with him. Yeah, but it wasn't even. It was just a year. Wasn't even a year. When he invited me to go, somebody in my community that was a new member said, have you ever thought about going on Alex's show? And I said, yeah, I would love to go on that show. I've seen myself there. A couple of days later, I got an invitation from him. That's what I'm talking about.
- [43:30]
Sean Kelly
Wow.
- [43:31]
Pamela
That's the universe putting it in action. And he said, when can you come down? I said, I'll come. Come down to Austin. It went down in January. And that, like, amplified the message. It amplifies the message. You reached out to me. It's amplifying the message because it is imperative, because of the timing.
- [43:53]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. That's how I found out about you. That show got a lot of views, and I was really impressed with the episode.
- [43:58]
Pamela
Yeah, that was my first in person podcast.
- [44:00]
Sean Kelly
There were some technical difficulties on that.
- [44:02]
Pamela
One, so we blew out the monitors.
- [44:05]
Sean Kelly
And it's already happened on this episode, too. So you're two for two.
- [44:08]
Pamela
That's crazy. What's going to happen? Nobody's going to invite me, Sean. They're not going to have me in person.
- [44:13]
Sean Kelly
So, nuts. How many of your premonitions have come true already? A good amount.
- [44:17]
Pamela
Well, they predicted last year that there would be an assassination attempt on Trump, and there was. And I was afraid to put Trump's name on it. And So I said the. The former president, because I was getting my courage. They talked about. There was. There was this. I was on vacation, and there was this. I saw this vision of this bank of four weeks. I can't explain it other than it was like 1, 2, 3, 4 full weeks. So I wrote it up, I wrote it down, and then I heard, like, a specific date. And so I share it. Like, I'm learning how to share this information. I'm human, just like everybody else, learning my skills just like everybody else. So I got excited because I. Because what I see is true. I am not. I don't say anything that I don't. That. That isn't real, that isn't true, that I can't own. And so I was like, what does this have to do with four weeks? And like, I was talking about it. Well, there's a couple things that happened. Trump hadn't put out his rally dates yet. Oh, and I saw. I saw Cal. I saw a vision of the bottom half of California down to Texas. I can't explain it. The bottom half of California down to Texas. So I was talking about that. Trump hadn't put out his rally dates yet. So it was California. It was all in those areas, like, specifically those areas. So that's one thing that happened. And the assassination attempt. And then the third week of October is when I got the invitation from Alex. So there's me trying to piece what I'm getting together. But I work with clients. I'm able to connect to their spirit guides, channel messages for them that are profound and beautiful and they change their lives. There's a lot of truth in that, and it's very specific to their individual needs. You know, lots of things happen in my life that are accurate. So we shall see what else comes true. The stock market. I mean, I even exited the stock market.
- [46:20]
Sean Kelly
Really. It's been down a lot the past few months.
- [46:23]
Pamela
I did this in 2020. They told me to exit. They told me to get prepared, to get preparedness as part of my diversity, my diversified portfolio or whatever that is. So they told me to get supplies in the house. They told me to get physical gold and silver. They told me to get resources for, like, comfort, like solar panels and generators and all the things that I would need. And they told me to take the money out and that's what I should do it with. And, you know, I had to have that call. This is how much I believe it. I had to call my financial advisor and say, this is. She's like, all right, I are you sure you want to do that? I'm like, I'm going to have to. You know, they show me a vision and tell me to sell my house. They tell me how much exactly? For sale by owner. I see the sign. They tell me I don't need to do any fixing up. I don't need to do anything. That night, that morning, I walk across the street and my neighbor says, what are you going to do? And your. Your youngest goes to college. I said, I. I just decided I'm going to sell my house. She goes, you know, you're. My dad and I were talking about that house. He loves it. He knew the woman that lived there before you. I think that my dad would like to buy. I sold it in like three hours.
- [47:31]
Sean Kelly
Wow.
- [47:32]
Pamela
My dad will give you exactly what you want. He'll pay for all the expenses, and you can pick your closing date.
- [47:38]
Sean Kelly
That's crazy.
- [47:39]
Pamela
But I'm saying that's the shit that happens to me over and over and over again. That shows me that what I am doing is what I'm supposed to be doing on my path.
- [47:48]
Sean Kelly
Confirmations.
- [47:49]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [47:50]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [47:50]
Pamela
That's awesome.
- [47:51]
Sean Kelly
I was on your YouTube. You made a video about volcanoes, right?
- [47:55]
Pamela
I think so, yeah. I saw. Since 2020, I've seen multiple volcanoes going off simultaneously. Like, going off at the same time, trying to think what else I saw. Hurricane. They talked about weather in 2020. They talked about weather.
- [48:11]
Sean Kelly
I feel like there's a lot of weather manipulation these days.
- [48:13]
Pamela
Oh, there most definitely is. I had a meeting in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. I had to drive an hour towards where I live in Maryland that day. They were shooting in the sky the entire hour drive from Pennsylvania to Maryland.
- [48:28]
Sean Kelly
I mean, wow, chemtrails. Damn. They don't even hide it anymore.
- [48:32]
Pamela
They don't even hide it anymore. But that's because nobody is. They're not looking up. The guides say, always busy, always busy, Never looking up. To see that you are so much more than this. Connected to the stars, connected to the universe, connected to all that is because we're just always putting one foot in front of the other. Just going from the what's our calendar say? What's our schedule say? What does my mom say? What does my husband say? What does my job say? And looking at our social media for the answers, taking other people's truths on as their own. And that's really the beauty of the shift that's happening.
- [49:07]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. I feel like the chemtrails, because of all the heavy metals inside, it's shutting off people's powers Too. There's a lot of people dealing with heavy metals and how. There's new studies on how that's affecting the third eye.
- [49:17]
Pamela
I agree.
- [49:18]
Sean Kelly
Yeah, agree.
- [49:19]
Pamela
I think that's why that pineal gland activation is so important. I sent it to you. You should definitely do it.
- [49:24]
Sean Kelly
I need to do that.
- [49:25]
Pamela
Yeah. Because the people in my community have been having profound experiences.
- [49:29]
Sean Kelly
Really.
- [49:29]
Pamela
It's the guides channeling. It's. The guides came through and they are actually leading you in this meditation. Someone I'm working with, Jason, he said that he had. He. He was doing the meditation and when he was done, he was covered in sweat.
- [49:44]
Sean Kelly
Wow.
- [49:45]
Pamela
Yeah. So just from meditating, just. It's an activation to decalcify and ignite the pineal gland. It's really cool.
- [49:54]
Sean Kelly
I need to do that.
- [49:55]
Pamela
You really do. And they talk about, like, they. Because they've been working on mine. They work on my pen all the time. They work on my neck. They work on all the things. So I know what the feelings are. When your pineal gland starts to. It goes. It feels like it's being locked, but actually it's being activated. And the guides actually put a beam of light in. It's a visualization that they're guiding you through. And they. They imagine. They tell you to imagine yourself. I won't. I won't tell all the details, but they're basically going from the inside out to break open and activate it with a surge of. It's really, really cool. And, you know, that sweating and everything. That's the physicality of it because it is actually inside of your head. This isn't bullshit. Like, this is real. This is how we were created. And the Guides talk in the meditation about how our DNA was manipulated.
- [50:49]
Sean Kelly
Anunnaki, right?
- [50:51]
Pamela
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [50:52]
Sean Kelly
They made us live less and not as intelligent stuff like that.
- [50:55]
Pamela
They created us.
- [50:56]
Sean Kelly
Yeah, yeah.
- [50:57]
Pamela
So they're really, truly, innately who we are. What we are, which is powerful, which is creator beings, which is. You know, we have these tools that are built inside of us.
- [51:09]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [51:09]
Pamela
Like, if you look at the intelligence of our body, it's amazing. It heals itself. It. You don't have to tell yourself when to breathe, when to blink, when to, like. It works. My business partner's having a baby. Like, she probably just had it now. Your body is like. Like a switch goes on and it's like, okay, it's baby time. And, like, all the things know what to do. It's remarkable.
- [51:31]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [51:31]
Pamela
We are amazing. And our brains, like our. Just look at our eyes. Like, so that third eye, that and that and that pineal gland. They're wonderful, wonderful tools that the guides want us to awaken and use. Yeah.
- [51:44]
Sean Kelly
We know so little about our body, especially our brain, and now we got people putting neuralink in their brain.
- [51:49]
Pamela
Yes.
- [51:50]
Sean Kelly
Like, I don't know about that one.
- [51:51]
Pamela
I gotta tell you that there's something about Elon Musk.
- [51:54]
Sean Kelly
Have you channeled him?
- [51:56]
Pamela
No, but I will tell you something. And they were showing. I think it was at the inauguration. He was standing behind Trump and he was channeling. I saw it. I don't. I don't know who saw it. And people were talking about how he was acting weird. But I have experienced this personally, so I can say that that's what I saw. This energy came into him and he was looking all around the room. It was like he was a. He was some. He was another being that was coming through and seeing what's going on. I mean, I definitely believe that he has assistance with his technology.
- [52:34]
Sean Kelly
I mean, anyone at that level, I feel like has some sort of influence or assistance, Right, Yes. There's just no way you get to that level.
- [52:40]
Pamela
I agree. Without it 100%.
- [52:42]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Even Trump, I feel like, has something, some. Someone in his corner giving him advice, you know?
- [52:48]
Pamela
Absolutely. Isn't that duo quite interesting?
- [52:50]
Sean Kelly
Elon and Trump?
- [52:51]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [52:51]
Sean Kelly
Very richest man in the world and probably the most powerful man in the world right now together.
- [52:56]
Pamela
Isn't it interesting?
- [52:57]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [52:57]
Pamela
When you look at Elon, what do you see? Do you see?
- [53:00]
Sean Kelly
I see an alien.
- [53:01]
Pamela
I see an alien. I've always seen he's a freaking alien.
- [53:04]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. The way he acts and talks.
- [53:06]
Pamela
Yeah. Like he doesn't care what anybody thinks. He is just there for the rye, baby.
- [53:11]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Like, even when he expresses emotion, it seems fake. It doesn't seem human.
- [53:15]
Pamela
I agree.
- [53:17]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [53:17]
Pamela
I agree.
- [53:18]
Sean Kelly
He's so smart. It's just a different level. Right. Shout out to him, though. He's changing the world. We'll see how it ends up.
- [53:23]
Pamela
It's so interesting.
- [53:24]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. We'll see if he gets us on Mars, you know?
- [53:27]
Pamela
Yes.
- [53:28]
Sean Kelly
I've heard. We used to live on Mars from some people, actually.
- [53:31]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [53:31]
Sean Kelly
And then war happened, right?
- [53:33]
Pamela
Yeah. Well, that was the. The person we were just talking about who was guest on your Jerry. I loved him. He was awesome. Felt very, very deeply connected to him. Yeah. I mean, I don't know any of that, like I said, but it resonates completely. A lot of the things he said, there's a lot I don't know about, but there's a lot. I did. And I'm like, it's so interesting and so specific and he just delivers it with conviction. And I'm like, he's experiencing it.
- [54:01]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [54:01]
Pamela
He just extends it with that experience. Yeah. I mean, there's. How many. There's life everywhere. And for us to think that we are just on this planet Earth, floating around in space, just us having our wonderful time and like nothing else is happening.
- [54:16]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [54:17]
Pamela
Where can you not believe that there's other life forms and other civilizations and how can you not.
- [54:24]
Sean Kelly
I definitely do. It's just interesting to see how the government wants us to fear these other life forms and they're programming people to be fearful of aliens and UFOs and to not question it.
- [54:33]
Pamela
Yeah, right. Yeah.
- [54:34]
Sean Kelly
But the people I've talked to that have had encounters with them say they're friendly.
- [54:37]
Pamela
Yeah. Well, there's all different kinds. And so there's. Yeah. I mean, he was talking about the Reptilians, and they're. I mean, like, just like anything, just like dark and light. There's all different kinds of beings. And the ones that I've experienced really want to support and help us. And they are kind and they are loving. But I also have had experiences with deep, dark entities and energies and they'll scare the crap out of you. You. But you have to learn that fear, like, we are stronger than they. We have a conviction and a power to us. We allow what we want to happen to us. But, you know, he was talking about civilizations, and when those progressions of. When civilizations have their cycles, we get a little lazy, you know? And then the dark starts to permeate again. They're always there, right. They're vying for their. For their strength and their power and their presence. And right now everyone's starting to wake up so much. They're starting to see what's happening. They're starting to see the shifts and the changes. But, yeah, I've. I woke up in the middle of the night one night and I was being drugged down. This dark. I mean, that's what woke me up. And I had had a martini. I probably had a couple martinis that night. We should talk about the alcohol thing with the gateway.
- [55:59]
Sean Kelly
Right?
- [56:00]
Pamela
I didn't even tell you this. I was laying. Let me finish that statement. So I had two martinis, I went into bed and. It lowers your frequency. It lowers your vibration. I became vulnerable.
- [56:12]
Sean Kelly
Right.
- [56:13]
Pamela
I woke up, I was being pulled by this dark, dark energy. I don't say demon. I feel like that's a three Dimensional word. This dark, very, very, very scary entity. It was pulling me down this tunnel to some sort of other reality. And I was like. I like pulled myself out of it. It affected me so much. I went and climbed in my mom's bed. I was like 50 something year old woman, no joke.
- [56:40]
Sean Kelly
Wow.
- [56:40]
Pamela
My mom had no idea what was happening. She doesn't know any of this stuff. But before I came here, like, my struggle with. With alcohol has its lines in my lineage, in my past lives, in this life. And my father died of alcoholism. My other family member had a really difficult time with it. Has just gotten out of it in a beautiful, beautiful way. So I have this understanding of the frequency of it. I have this understanding of it as a whole. Normally I'm very in charge and understand it, but I always talk to the guides about it. I'll always ask for guidance. Should I do this? Should I have this? I want them to be a part of my life. They are a part of my life. I didn't ask them for guidance on this. I didn't ask anything about this. I was in bed two days ago before I came down here. I. I didn't even open my eyes. My awareness just opened and I heard, remain sober. And I was like, that's interesting. I got in the shower, which I always do work with them when I'm in the shower. The water's a conduit and helps elevate the frequency. And it's a wonderful time to work with them. They started talking to me about the frequency in Las Vegas. They started talking to me about the free, rampant energies that are running around here.
- [57:55]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
And that I really need to. Specifically to maintain my vibration. Sorry about your monitors, but, like, make sure that I am really monitoring and preserving my energy body. And I was like, you got it. No alcohol whatsoever. And I feel it. I was falling asleep last night and I could feel energies around me. So.
- [58:18]
Sean Kelly
Yeah, the Strip has a ton of it.
- [58:20]
Pamela
It's interesting, Sean.
- [58:21]
Sean Kelly
A lot of dark energy there, people losing their life savings, people. A lot of suicides, unfortunately, there.
- [58:27]
Pamela
It's my first time here. Oh, really?
- [58:29]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. A lot of spiritual people don't like it here, especially on the Strip.
- [58:32]
Pamela
Yeah. I don't feel called to, like, go out and have an experience.
- [58:35]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Yeah.
- [58:36]
Pamela
I'll come see you.
- [58:38]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. I'm honored.
- [58:40]
Pamela
Oh, you're welcome.
- [58:40]
Sean Kelly
I'd love to close off with the message you have from me. And then if we could channel the Council light after that.
- [58:45]
Pamela
Okay.
- [58:45]
Sean Kelly
That'd be beautiful, right?
- [58:46]
Pamela
Yeah. So I channel messages for people. And the messages are really beautiful and they're usually very, very important. So I channel messages for people. I connect to their guides. This one's actually from the Great Council of Light for you. There were two messages. One is about you and one is for you. So I'll send the one that's about you to you and you can experience that.
- [59:08]
Sean Kelly
Okay?
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Pamela
But this one is for you. So I'll read it when it's coming down. I just let it flow. I close my eyes and I channel it so quickly, I'll read it in with the inflection of how I heard it.
- [59:24]
Sean Kelly
Okay.
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Pamela
Okay. Here we go. Share the words that you understand. Share the ways of the world with all that will listen. For you are not only here to share others stories, but to share your expansion as you gain more understanding of the ways of the world. For with your podcast and your work, dear Sean, you are sharing your spiritual awakening journey with others right alongside with you. They are able to see themselves much like Pamela. That is why you like and feel drawn. You see sincerity with her words and her honesty. You see that she is humble with the understanding and only seeks to help people and support the expansion of humanity. This is what you are doing, dear Sean, and not even understanding that this is your path. That's actually like the coolest thing. I loved it. It made me get totally filled with vibration.
- [60:18]
Sean Kelly
Wow.
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Pamela
You were an inquisitive as a child. Annoying adults with your thirst to understand. You have a platform now that you can help shift the digital space for humankind, spreading light and good information that is truth to help awaken the masses. You have the opportunity now to share the shift that is about to happen to humankind in real time. For there will be a shift that has been spoken about on your podcast that will inevitably come to your reality. You will see it happen from the words that you have heard and you will broadcast for all to see. This is the execution of your work. Continue to explore ideas and connections. For with each step that you take, putting one foot in front of the other, you are pulling forward your already existing reality. One that is so bright and wonderful that you are piecing together with each conversation. You do not need to worry of money or fame. You do not need to worry of will this work be in vain, for it is not. And when I said when I was typing that, they shook my head like none of this work is in vain. Nothing that you have done in the past has ever been in vain. It's all been purposeful and served a purpose in Your life. We are excited for the evolution that is to come. Dear Sean, for you are not only a wonder maker, you will have a reach that is so great. You will speak to people all over the world in truth and light, helping to expand the world's foundation and light. Wow. I know.
- [61:48]
Sean Kelly
That is beautiful. Thank you so much.
- [61:50]
Pamela
You're welcome.
- [61:51]
Sean Kelly
That's super exciting.
- [61:52]
Pamela
I know. I thought it was really beautiful. And the other one I will send to you and you can experience.
- [61:57]
Sean Kelly
I'll read the other one tonight. Wow.
- [61:58]
Pamela
Yeah. Because when you read it, it's totally different than when I say it.
- [62:02]
Sean Kelly
Is it?
- [62:02]
Pamela
It is. Because you see it in a different way. And you might be in your space and you might be like, you know, not in front of cameras and all the things. And it will touch your heart. Maybe you'll even have a frequency kind of shift within your body. I love that, you know? Yeah. So have you ever channeled? Worked with somebody who channels before Paul Selig came on. Did he?
- [62:23]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Okay, cool. He's been on an Elizabeth April channels, I believe.
- [62:26]
Pamela
Awesome.
- [62:27]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
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Pamela
Yeah. Paul's very kind of calm.
- [62:30]
Sean Kelly
Very.
- [62:31]
Pamela
And EA is very, like, just. It's like she hardly even shifts her energy. It just comes out. Yeah.
- [62:37]
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
- [62:38]
Pamela
So this is different.
- [62:40]
Sean Kelly
I'm open to whatever.
- [62:41]
Pamela
Have you ever seen Bashar and Dara Lanka?
- [62:44]
Sean Kelly
I haven't.
- [62:44]
Pamela
Okay. So you'll want to check him out. Just because he's a dynamic force. He's very like the council. I'm new to this. It's been a year that I've been doing this publicly, and so I'm still honing my craft and everything. But they will come in super excited, and they'll talk. I don't know what they'll say. And, you know, sometimes, like, I might hear myself. So it might kind of break the pattern a little bit, or the. Or the connection a little bit. I might have to, like, have a moment to re. Engage. But I will allow them to come through and speak.
- [63:23]
Sean Kelly
Beautiful.
- [63:23]
Pamela
Is that okay?
- [63:24]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Let's see what they have to say. What do I have to do? Just sit.
- [63:27]
Pamela
Yes. You're so cute. Yes, Just sit there. Okay, so here we go. And. Yeah, make notes, I guess. Yes, we are here. We are here. We are very happy to be here. Yes, indeed. Yes, we are here. Yes, we do have a message for you and your community in the world. Inevitably, who will see this appearance in this broadcast, there will be a shift that will happen on your planet. The frequencies of your world will shift dynamically quickly. Expansion of thoughts, collective Experience all understanding immediately what it is the world has been created to be. There will be shifts, will not understand what it is that they are looking at, understand what it is that their world has been created to be. We employ you now. Understand that you are in control of your individual experience, your individual frequency, your individual understanding. For now, you can create what you desire for your future and merely existing in a frequency that is higher and better. With each action that you take in your world, each being that you experience, each experience that you create with another, you're absorbing energy or moving and changing your frequency. You have been brought onto the planet to understand love to its core. I've come here with a contract with others, knowing that you are all here to create an experience for one another. Know that nothing is specific or unique to you, is here to support another, to support you in the advancement of your soul's expansion. With each day that you live on Planet Earth and others, you have the opportunity to remain in a frequency that is higher, cautious of your consumption. Radio, food, social media, conversations, your work, all of which have existed to create your world to be small. But you are not. You're vast. Vast, unlimited beings of light. Know that we are here to support you through this shift of humanity. Nothing is happening to you. It is for you in the betterment of humankind's experience on planet Earth. Do not be fearful. Remain connected. Sauce Love will help you navigate through all of the waves of change. That was a lot. Wow, A.C.
- [66:55]
Sean Kelly
Wow, that was impressive.
- [66:57]
Pamela
Yeah. My body, my energy body is shifting right now.
- [67:01]
Sean Kelly
Wow. I've never seen something like that.
- [67:03]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [67:03]
Sean Kelly
Do you know who that was or.
- [67:05]
Pamela
That was the Great Council.
- [67:06]
Sean Kelly
Wow. How many of them are there?
- [67:08]
Pamela
Oh, there's a large group of them. When I walk in to work with them, they're all sitting at a table. That's a visual that they give me. So it's a collective. I don't know exactly the number, but they are like your guest said, Jerry, they are creator beings. They are very, very, very, very powerful, loving beings. And like my right now, I'm like, so strained and like in my head knocks and I can feel it. But they really are trying to help us understand that we're in control of our experience. We're a control. So with the shifts that do come, start paying attention to what you're consuming. Start paying attention to the conversation. Start paying attention to what you're eating, what you're drinking, what you're watching, what you're. What you're saying, what you're doing. Like, with Your work. Because the better that experience is, the more it affects you and makes your life better. Like you're working on your body all the time, trying to improve your health, trying to improve your experience, trying to improve your understanding. You're working with energy people to help you with your vibration, with your shockers, with what? I don't even know what you do, but that's what they're talking about. It starts with the small things. Choosing to cut out people that aren't serving you in your life. Saying no to some things. Getting very clear on what it is you want for your life. They're small things.
- [68:36]
Sean Kelly
Adds up, though.
- [68:36]
Pamela
They're not hard. Yeah. I mean, maybe they are hard for some people. Like saying no to a family member or choosing to not go to an experience that you know is going to leave you depleted, leave you feeling stressed or anxious or. They're the things. They're small things. I channeled a message for someone a couple days ago. One degree change can change everything.
- [68:56]
Sean Kelly
Icky guy.
- [68:57]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [68:58]
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Improve 1% every day.
- [68:59]
Pamela
Yeah. I mean, it's just one. Exactly. It's one small thing. So you don't have to get overwhelmed with all the things and the things that we just talked about.
- [69:08]
Sean Kelly
Absolutely.
- [69:09]
Pamela
Yeah.
- [69:09]
Sean Kelly
Pamela, it's been amazing. Any closing messages? I can't wait to follow your journey.
- [69:14]
Pamela
Yeah. Thank you for saying that. I appreciate you having me and reaching out and I just want to tell everyone that if they're having an expansion, that they're having a spiritual awakening to come and visit spirit-calling.com. there's a whole community there of people who are waiting to support them. Can't wait to. It's a family. And then my social platforms are Spirit Calling, Pamela. And then I also have a page with like specials for the people who are in your community who. Here's the message. If there's something in your heart, something in your body pulling you towards learning more on a it, allow it, let it go in advance and see what happens. Don't be afraid of it.
- [69:51]
Sean Kelly
I love it. We'll link everything below. Thanks for coming on.
- [69:52]
Pamela
Yeah, thanks.
- [69:53]
Sean Kelly
Check her out, guys. I will see you next time.