Can Three People Really Be Happy? | Abigaiil Morris | DSH #2050

Summary

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Digital Social Hour #2050: "Can Three People Really Be Happy?"

Guest: Abigail Morris
Host: Sean Kelly
Date: July 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this candid episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Abigail Morris—adult entertainer, animal rescue enthusiast, and unapologetic nerd—to unpack society's views on sex work, polyamory, and happiness. The conversation moves fluidly from Abigail’s thriving throuple relationship and sex-positive philosophy to cosplay, gaming addictions, and the realities of running an 11-dog household. Listeners are invited into a raw, authentic discussion full of humor, personal reflection, and a fair share of memorable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Abigail’s Journey into Sex Work & Stigma

• Abigail began with OnlyFans in 2019, mainstreamed in 2021. Started with cosplay; broke into adult mainstream with intention and caution, wanting to ensure she was ready and mentally sound.
  • Quote: “I always knew I wanted to be in sex work… but I didn’t want to pull the trigger way too quickly. And once it’s out there, that’s it. Like, it’s out there. You can’t take it back.” (00:00, 08:11)
• Dives into breaking common stereotypes—sex workers as “damaged” or “crazy.” She stresses mental health, safe practices, self-awareness, and being in a loving, stable home life.
  • Quote: “You can be a star and be mentally sound and, you know, be a healthy, happy person.” (11:19)
  • “All those stigmas were things I wanted to break. And I also just wanted to be a slut on camera.” (11:51)

Throuple Life, Polyamory, and Jealousy

• Abigail shares practical realities and emotional truths of her throuple—herself, her longtime girlfriend, and their boyfriend.
  • Quote: “We both need dick. So then we ended up just kind of exploring and now we’re... in a throuple and have everything we need. Outside of that, there’s no jealousy.” (12:04)
• Raised in a polyamorous family, she credits this for her comfort with nontraditional love and lack of jealousy.
  • Quote: “For me... if I love my partner, I want to see them happy... Why should that bother me?” (13:23)
• The core rule of her relationships: honesty and mutual respect.

Sex Positivity, Kinks, and Sexual Priorities

• Sex is a top life priority (“number two after emotional connection”), above money and career.
  • Quote: “Sex above everything else, above money.” (14:59)
• Deep dives into her kinks: praise, breeding, cum, exhibitionism, getting off on pleasing others—even if she doesn't climax herself.
  • Quote: “If the other person just felt like they had no control and just came everywhere, then I’m just... turn on for you. Oh my God, yeah.” (17:03)
  • “I don’t care if I come or not. I genuinely do.” (18:20)
• Discusses sexual boundaries: no anal, no fisting, no stepping on her head—otherwise, quite open.
  • Quote: “No fisting, no anal, and don’t step on my head—that’s the only ones.” (23:23)
• Conversation about “quick finishers” and why it’s a compliment for her.

Behind the Scenes: Industry Realities

• Weekly STI testing, safe environments, clear boundaries; demystifies on-set experiences.
  • “In porn, you get tested weekly or bi-weekly... I get tested weekly.” (10:19)
  • “The most I think desired amount of sex is like 25 minutes… for me, like, 25, I’m good.” (16:45)
• Emotional/lifestyle tradeoffs: her relationship is drama-free, main arguments are about “getting a 12th dog.”

Dogs, Animal Rescue, and Wholesome Living

• Currently has 11 dogs (mix of rescues and gifted), plans to create an animal sanctuary in the future.
  • Quote: “My plan is to pretty much start like a rescue... a big property of land where they can be happy.” (04:45)
• Talks about challenges with rescues—aggression risks, breed preferences, and why she draws the line at huskies due to personal mayhem stories.

Fandoms, Cosplay, and Gaming Addiction

• Entered sex work via cosplay, remains a self-proclaimed “huge Marvel nerd,” and loves gaming.
  • “Cosplay was my segue in... I was always super sexual.” (09:00)
• Favorite cosplays include Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, and an elaborate Mario-themed group scene. (30:49–34:13)
• Massive Pokémon Go fan—raids across the country, sometimes with up to six phones at once.
  • Quote: “I have six [phones]. Each of us raid on two phones.” (36:10)
• Plays Age of Origins, is the second-strongest in her nation, and finds joy in outplaying male gamers—keeps nerd and sex work worlds mostly separate.

Personality and Preferences

• Attracted to “shy little nerds” over “arrogant, cocky assholes.”
  • “Nerds are the coolest. I would take a shy little nerd over an arrogant, cocky asshole any day.” (38:30)
• Insists good sex is about chemistry and passion—not penis size—and has enjoyed partners with micro penises.
  • “For me personally… if the chemistry is good... I’ll find a way to come, that’s impressive.” (39:37)

Thoughts on Culture, Attention Spans & Media

• Expresses frustration at modern culture’s short attention span and conversational decline, blaming phones and "dumbed down" media.
  • Quote: “People don’t want to have a real conversation, and they can’t pull their face out of their phone.” (28:50)
• Favorite movies are older, more “thoughtful” sci-fi and thrillers. Laments MCU’s downturn post-Endgame.

Family, Motherhood & Future

• Open about her family history (second of nine kids), ambivalent about motherhood—emphasizes the need for careful planning and self-knowledge.
  • “I'm only 25. I don't think I need to decide that.” (40:54)
  • “If I did decide to have a kid, I would take off probably about a year before and a year after I have the kid.” (40:55)
• Would consider adoption, with honesty and openness always prioritized.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sex Work Stigma:

  “You can be a star and be mentally sound and... be a healthy, happy person.” — Abigail (11:19)
  “All those stigmas were things I wanted to break. And I also just wanted to be a slut on camera.” (11:51)

• On Polyamory:

  “We both need dick. So then we ended up just kind of exploring and now we’re with... we’re in a throuple and have everything we need.” (12:04)

• On Relationship Philosophy:

  “If I love my partner, I want to see them happy in all ways... I think it's no different than going to dinner. Do you want pizza every day for every single meal? Probably not... The harder you try to lock somebody down, the more they’re going to want to escape.” (13:23, 14:02)

• On Sex & Priorities:

  “Sex above everything else—above money.” (14:59)
  “If the other person just felt like they had no control and just came everywhere, then I'm just... turn on for you.” (17:03)
  “I don't care if I come or not. I genuinely do.” (18:20)

• On Nerd Culture:

  “Nerds are the coolest. I would take a shy little nerd over an arrogant, cocky asshole any day.” (38:30)

• On Modern Culture:

  “People don’t want to have a real conversation, and they can’t pull their face out of their phone.” (28:50)

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Timestamps for Key Topics

• Intro/Abigail's Dog Rescue Life (00:44–05:12)
• Sex Work Journey, Stigma, and OnlyFans Origins (07:09–11:51)
• On Polyamory, Throuple Structure, Rules (11:58–14:38)
• Sexual Values, Industry Realities & Kinks (14:38–23:39)
• Porn vs. Monogamy, Hygiene, and Boundaries (23:21–25:15)
• Attitudes Toward Size, Sex, and Partners (38:39–39:46)
• Discussions on Modern Media & Movie Trends (28:50–31:18)
• Cosplay, Gaming, and Fandom Geek-outs (31:37–36:48)
• Parenting, Family, and Motherhood Philosophy (40:41–43:49)

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Summary

This episode offers a fearless, hilarious, and multidimensional portrait of Abigail Morris: a person at once deeply sex-positive, polyamorous, nurturing to animals, driven by nerd culture, and reflective about society’s shifting values. With transparency and comic timing, Abigail and Sean Kelly blast through stigmas around sex work and non-monogamy, reveal the quirks and joys of running a household of rescue dogs, and bond over gaming obsessions and movie nostalgia. Abigail’s magnetic frankness and intelligence, alongside Sean’s curiosity, make for a podcast episode that’s at once raw, endearing, and thought-provoking—for both the open-minded and the curious.

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Transcript

[Abigail Morris]

I always knew I wanted to be in f. CK work, and I always knew that I wanted to do, like, an only fans kind of thing. So it's just one of those things where it's like I didn't want to pull the trigger way too quickly. And once it's out there, that's it. Like, it's out there. You can't take it back. One of the most frustrating things for me, like meeting new people, is not being able to have a conversation, so. And I feel like that's something that's lacking a lot nowadays. People don't want to read, people don't want to have a real conversation, and they can't pull their face out of their phone.

[Podcast Host]

What's the quickest? Someone's finished Foreign. Okay, guys, have a fun one for y'. All Today we got Abigail Morris here. She just hosted the ABN Awards and she's living. Living her life right now. Thanks for coming on.

[Abigail Morris]

No, thank you for having me.

[Podcast Host]

What's. What's new since the award show? It's been a couple months, right?

[Abigail Morris]

It's been a couple months. Nothing crazy, just shooting, working from home. I'm about to go to Japan, so that's new.

[Podcast Host]

That's fun for work or for pleasure?

[Abigail Morris]

Pleasure tourism. I just want to see everything that's

[Podcast Host]

been on my list for a while.

[Abigail Morris]

You haven't gone?

[Podcast Host]

No, I've been to China, cuz I'm half Chinese. My mom grew up there. But Japan looks so beautiful. The food looks great.

[Abigail Morris]

The food looks great. And I can't wait to pet the deer. And there's all of the things that people say are unethical to do, but I want to go tattoo the animals.

[Podcast Host]

You could pet deer in Arizona.

[Abigail Morris]

What? Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I went to a deer farm there. Yeah, it was sick. It was me, my wife, and just 300 deer. We were the only ones there, so they were all just following us around. Because you feed them.

[Abigail Morris]

You're going to have to send me the information.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I need to go. Yeah. Because we were on the way home from Sedona and it was just there. Really. We stopped it.

[Abigail Morris]

Never even heard of that.

[Podcast Host]

I know.

[Abigail Morris]

It's crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I love animals, too. I know. You got 11 dogs.

[Abigail Morris]

Yes, 11 dogs.

[Podcast Host]

That's impressive.

[Abigail Morris]

It's amazing. They are absolutely adorable. The oldest is going on six and the youngest is. She's gonna be a year.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. She got about two a year.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, pretty much. A few of them were rescues. Some of them were gifts. It's just kind of been a process Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I go back and forth if I want to rescue for my next one.

[Abigail Morris]

Is the. The complicated thing with rescue, and especially for me, because I rescued. I want to say, like, half, but when it comes down to, like, rescuing, you don't know what kind of dog you're gonna get. And while I love all dogs, I can't risk getting one that's aggressive with other dogs.

[Podcast Host]

Exactly. That's my issue.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Because you have 11. So if you get an aggressive one, it's.

[Abigail Morris]

It could kill one of the little ones. Because I have big, big, big dogs, and I have little, tiny dogs, so all of my dogs have to be able to coexist with other dogs.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And they all get along right now.

[Abigail Morris]

They do. They all get along really well right now. We just got Smokey in November. He's the smallest. He's a mini hippo. So it's a cocker spaniel, Shar Pei mix. And he's so cute, but he's a little asshole. He basically, like, runs the pack now. He just runs around bullying everybody. But, like, they're all okay with it. It's so cute.

[Podcast Host]

Usually the small ones are a bit of an attitude. I think they need it to survive. Right. They can't be nuts. Is.

[Abigail Morris]

My Pomeranians don't even have an attitude. He's just, like, a little.

[Podcast Host]

Those are different. I think Pomeranians are just so nice.

[Abigail Morris]

They're so sweet.

[Podcast Host]

They get by with cuteness.

[Abigail Morris]

They do. And my Rottweilers are just dorky. I have Rottweiler pit mix. I have beagle mix.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Abigail Morris]

Great Pyrenees.

[Podcast Host]

Like, all of them.

[Abigail Morris]

All of them? All of them.

[Podcast Host]

Is there any breed you wouldn't own?

[Abigail Morris]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Abigail Morris]

I went there. What? Which ones would you not own?

[Podcast Host]

I'm not the biggest fan of dalmatians.

[Abigail Morris]

I love dalmatians.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Abigail Morris]

They're so beautiful.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Okay. I had a bad experience with one.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, tell me.

[Podcast Host]

It was just my neighbor when I lived in an apartment, and his dalmatian didn't like me, so maybe I'm being biased.

[Abigail Morris]

You might be being biased.

[Podcast Host]

He didn't like my dogs. And then German shepherd, if they're not trained well or pretty scary.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, I do have one. I wouldn't have Husky.

[Podcast Host]

Husky? Yeah. They all. Too much.

[Abigail Morris]

Well, I fostered huskies one time, and we were just, like, fostering them in between homes, and they were, like, tragic. It was, oh, my gosh. They ate through my tv. They ate my couch. Then we were like, okay, let's try kennel training. You know, this could be great. Ate through the kennel. Wow. Then we tried like the metal kennel and we were like, you're just in there to go to sleep. That's it.

[Podcast Host]

Like.

[Abigail Morris]

And she ate through it and like cut her face. And I'm just like, you know what, never mind.

[Podcast Host]

I got a bad experience with the husky too. Yeah. I went to puppy training with my dog and there was a husky there. Really bad. Like it was howling. It peed on the floor as soon as I walked in. They wouldn't listen to any of the commands, like, sip. And then the next week we go back to the training and we see a missing poster. They ran away.

[Abigail Morris]

I ran away. Yeah, I love huskies and they're beautiful, but they're little.

[Podcast Host]

I think they're too smart. Honestly, I don't know.

[Abigail Morris]

They're way too smart and they don't want to be. They just don't want to be confined. They need to have freedom and space. So, yeah, no, my house was not absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

What's the, what's the limit on dogs you're going to have?

[Abigail Morris]

Well, I'm grounded from having more at the moment. My girlfriend said if I get more, she'll leave me. So we are waiting until we get a bigger property and then my plan is to pretty much start like a rescue. So I want to be able to go to shelters and get ones and have just like a big property of land where they can be happy. That's like my, my end goal.

[Podcast Host]

But yeah, I love, I love seeing people that own rescues. They post Instagram videos, all their animals

[Abigail Morris]

and they all get along so well and just. I love animals.

[Podcast Host]

Seems very wholesome. Like I feel like it sound good on paper, but imagine all the problems I deal with behind the scenes.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly. Which is why you would definitely. It's not a one person job. Like I plan to do it at a point where I can have employees and make sure everything's well taken care of. In the meantime, I just go to like, there's a little rescue farm up near where I live and you can go there and.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I've been there.

[Abigail Morris]

Just like you have. Oh, okay.

[Podcast Host]

The one next to the Gil Crease, I think. Yes, yes.

[Abigail Morris]

Isn't it the cutest?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I got some, some favorites over there.

[Abigail Morris]

They're so cute. Yeah, we go there often and they're just. Oh my God, I love this the best.

[Podcast Host]

The oneeyed cow. I think I love them. He's great. Forget his name.

[Abigail Morris]

And then the horse that just looks like it has permanent pink eye.

[Podcast Host]

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[Abigail Morris]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

They got a bull that's really big. Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Have you seen the horse that. He's there. And you'll, like, feed him and then you'll go to the other horses and he starts kicking. Yeah. Oh, my God, they're so.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they got some characters over there. I love what they do. I made some good food, too.

[Abigail Morris]

I haven't had their food.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Abigail Morris]

No. I've gone there and I've seen the market and I always want to buy

[Podcast Host]

it, but, yeah, they got good eggs, they got homemade bread, homemade pies. I love supporting farmers. You know, I go to the Summerlin farmers market sometimes.

[Abigail Morris]

Me too.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Abigail Morris]

No, it is. I love farmers markets. I try to go every. We've gone to farmers markets in England. We've gone. We try to go everywhere. The farmers markets are just. I love.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, everywhere I go, same. So you got a wholesome side to you. I love it.

[Abigail Morris]

I try.

[Podcast Host]

For those that don't know what you do, we should get into this.

[Abigail Morris]

Yes, absolutely. For those of you don't know what I do. I do.

[Podcast Host]

We're just going to get straight to it then. Yeah. So you got in at a. A pretty young age, right?

[Abigail Morris]

I got in at 20. Well, I got into, like, only fans in 2019 and then mainstream 2021.

[Podcast Host]

Got it. So you did of first.

[Abigail Morris]

I did only fans first. So, yeah, I was one of those girls that, you know, people hated on for being an only fans girl. And they break into the industry. So it was definitely one of those things. You have to go into it, like knowing you were doing only fans you were not doing.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Abigail Morris]

So you have to go into it with an open mind and be humble and know that the way you do things on OnlyFans is not even remotely the same as what you do on set. So you have to Kind of go into it just knowing you're gonna get humbled. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Because I usually hear it the other way around. Like, they do first and then get an onlyfans.

[Abigail Morris]

Well, I never planned to do mainstream. I always knew I wanted to be in sex work, and I always knew that I wanted to do, like, an only fans kind of thing. But I didn't want to make that decision until I knew I was old enough to make it with a sound mind and not do it in an immature way, if that makes sense.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. The brain develops till 26.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly. So it's just one of those things where it's like, I didn't want to pull the trigger way too quickly. And once it's out there, that's it. Like, it's out there. You can't take it back. You can't, like, do a scene and then just decide, no, I don't. I don't want that out there anymore. It's out there. That's there. It's done. So I originally started in just cosplay and was doing it for nerdy reasons. So I went to Comic Con, New York Comic Con, specifically in cosplay, just to, like, be my favorite comic book characters. And then once I kind of built a following that way, I started an only fans and then did cosplay stuff there, then broke more into the sexualized part of things. And then when I started mainstream, I was just like, this is awesome. Like, I can be the full exhibitionist. I want to be on camera. And what's cooler than knowing the entire world is jerking off to you?

[Podcast Host]

Like, that's funny. Wow. So cosplay is sort of like, this. The Segway.

[Abigail Morris]

That was. Yeah, that was my segue in, because I was always super sexual. I started, like, walking topless in New York when I was 18 just to, like, oh, my gosh, it was so fun.

[Podcast Host]

You didn't get arrested?

[Abigail Morris]

Well, it was during, like, the whole free the nipple movement. Whenever. That was very big. Yeah. And so it became like, it's legal. You can walk in New York topless. So I did it just so that people would look at my nipples. So it was very. It was a very fun experience. And then I knew that I was an exhibitionist. I went to Exotica New Jersey that same year and then met the Brazer's recruiters that were there, got it, and they had, like, talked to me about doing mainstream, and I was like, I'm not ready to do mainstream yet. Like, it's just not. I don't know. I'm not ready. Like, I'm not 100% sure that's what I want to do. I'll stick to my little only fans thing for now and then see what happens later. And they rush out a few more times. And then 20, 21, I was like, okay, I think I'm ready. Yeah. Right after Covid was actually whenever I started. And I knew that, like, I knew the risks, I knew the pros, I knew the cons. I knew exactly, like, the. The mental toll it would take. I knew how stressful it can be, but I also knew all of the things that I wanted were there too.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

So I think I was able to make like the. The SM based off of my age once I.

[Podcast Host]

For sure. Yeah. What were the things you wanted?

[Abigail Morris]

Well, I want freedom of sexuality, obviously. I want to explore all of the craziest things in a controlled environment. Can't do that with people on Tinder, at least not in the safest way.

[Podcast Host]

I get arrested.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah. One, you might get arrested. And two, it's just not the safest thing in the world. And also, like, the day average everyday human doesn't get tested all the time. And in porn, you get tested weekly or bi weekly. And wow, at the furthest. Bi weekly. I get tested weekly. So it's a very safe kind of environment to explore everything you want to explore. Also the sexual creativity. So it's like it's an art form in and of itself. But I think the biggest passion project of it for me was showing that you can be sound of mind, healthy, happy, not psychotic and damaged and still

[Podcast Host]

want to do that is the stigma. Right. That is the special with females.

[Abigail Morris]

Everybody thinks that we're either like, crazy hormonal. We are. But that that's the reason we do it or because we're damaged or because we have trauma or because we are poor.

[Podcast Host]

Daddy issues.

[Abigail Morris]

Daddy issues. And I don't. I don't have that. I mean, I'm sure everybody has a smidge of mommy and daddy issues, but people that are corporate owners also have mommy and dad.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah. Everyone has childhood trauma.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host]

There's no doubt.

[Abigail Morris]

So I don't think that, that. That you need to have all of those things in order to be a star. Like, you can be a star and be mentally sound and, you know, be a healthy, happy person. And another thing is, like, everybody thinks you can be in a loving relationship, and. And I'm in a very loving, healthy relationship. And I do. There's no jealousy and there's no psycho craziness and arguments. And the thing we have the biggest argument about is whether I'm going to get a 12th dog. And that's it. That's funny. So, yeah, I think that all of those stigmas were things I wanted to break. And I also just wanted to be a slut on camera.

[Podcast Host]

I love that. I love the honesty. I, I, I'm impressed that you can balance the relationship too, and not just one. Right. You're in a throuple.

[Abigail Morris]

I'm in a throuple, yes. So we have, I have my girlfriend who I've been with the longest we've been together since I was 17.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Abigail Morris]

And then we have our boyfriend and we've been together since I was 19.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Abigail Morris]

And the three of us are, we're tight knit. There's, we all kind of knew what we were getting into from the beginning. So obviously I wasn't in sex work whenever we got together, but I knew that I wasn't a lesbian and I knew that I wasn't straight. So me and my girlfriend kind of had that conversation when we got together and we were just like, we both need dick. It's just, it is what it is. We can't just like scissor it out forever. So we both need dick. So then we ended up just kind of exploring and now we're with, you know, we're in a throuple and we have everything we need. And outside of that, there's no jealousy. Our main rule is just honesty.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Mutual respect and honesty. As long as there's mutual. Mutual respect and honesty. Like, what does that argue for?

[Podcast Host]

Sure. So it's open on all ends.

[Abigail Morris]

It's open on all ends. Our preference has usually been relationship wise. We focus on the throuple. But everybody has the freedom to explore outside of that. So my girlfriend has had girlfriends. My girlfriend has had boyfriends. My boyfriend has had girlfriends. I've had boyfriends and girlfriends. We've all explored outside of that. But our main thing has kind of always come back to the throuple. It just kind of instinct instinctively kind of just ended that way.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

But it's not a rule. Everybody has the freedom to explore and do their own thing.

[Podcast Host]

That is fascinating. And no jealousy on any, anyone's part?

[Abigail Morris]

Luckily, no. I think for me it's one was raised in a polyamorous family.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

So that kind of definitely attributes to me not having jealousy issues. But it also comes down to like, for me, I think if I love my partner, I want to see them happy in all ways. So if them getting fucked by somebody else makes them happy or them, you know, going out on dates with other people makes them happy. Why should that bother me? And I think it's no different than going to dinner. Do you want pizza every day for every single meal? Probably not. Do you want pasta? Sometimes. Or fruit? Sometimes. Or sometimes ice cream? Absolutely. Doesn't mean you don't like the pizza anymore. It just means you want to explore other things. And I think that a lot of relationships want to lock somebody down. I think the harder you try to lock somebody down, the more they're going to want to escape.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

That's why a lot of cheating happens. So I think that I've gotten very lucky that my partners also feel the same way.

[Podcast Host]

That's so true, though. There is a lot of cheating in monogamous relationships.

[Abigail Morris]

There is. And it's not that monogamy doesn't exist and that it cannot exist or that it's wrong. Monogamy works all the time for a lot of people. Just for myself personally, it. It's not for me.

[Podcast Host]

You tried it in the past.

[Abigail Morris]

I didn't even want to try it.

[Podcast Host]

I was honest.

[Abigail Morris]

It doesn't even sound like fun to me.

[Podcast Host]

I'm good.

[Abigail Morris]

Like, it's not even on my. On my list of things I want to do. Like, I'm just. No, I like women. I like men. I don't want to live without either. So monogamy, that kind of just rules that out right away.

[Podcast Host]

So sex is a really high priority for you?

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, my God, Yes. In a 100%.

[Podcast Host]

Is it number one or.

[Abigail Morris]

I would say it's number two. I think the emotional aspect is still very important to me, so I would say that's number one. But number two is definitely like, sex above.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Abigail Morris]

Everything outside of emotion. Sex above everything else. Above money, above money.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap. That's a rare take these days.

[Abigail Morris]

Which is, again, why? Works for me because my sex priority and my money priority are on the same level. Right.

[Podcast Host]

Because the money is only there for the top performers.

[Abigail Morris]

The money. Well, it depends on how often you're performing. So if you're performing 28, 27 days a month, then, yeah, you're also making the money.

[Podcast Host]

People do that much.

[Abigail Morris]

People do. There's girls that do. I just. That's not for me. I've worked really hard to be at a point where I can, like, work as much as I want to or not work if I don't have to. So I shoot a few scenes a month, and then outside of that, I work from home. I Do only fans I stream. I film custom videos. I do stuff like that. And like being on set all the time. I love being on set, but I don't want to do it 30 days a month. I just feel like it would get exhausting after a while. And the dicks are really big.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

So I don't want to be stretched like that every day.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That must hurt, right?

[Abigail Morris]

It doesn't hurt as much as it's just like, it. Well, sometimes it does, depending on how big the dick is. You definitely need to stretch and, like, get used to it. If they just ram it in, it's not going to feel good. But on set they give you, like, the freedom and the space to kind of stretch and make sure you're okay and get into positions that feel good before the scene actually works. So it's very rare that it's actually painful. And if it was painful, the producers are not going to make you do it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

So it's. It's actually a very. For me, it's like the perfect environment and I'm not a size queen, so definitely takes me time to, like, adjust and get used to it.

[Podcast Host]

How many hours on set are you filming on average?

[Abigail Morris]

I would say six to eight. Is average. Six to eight hours.

[Podcast Host]

So you're having sex for six hours?

[Abigail Morris]

Well, that's the thing. The misconception is. No, you're having sex for about an hour and 20 minutes, I would say.

[Podcast Host]

That's so crazy outside. Yeah, that's nuts.

[Abigail Morris]

It's nuts, right? Because the, like, the sex. The most. I think desired amount of sex is like 25 minutes. I think that's.

[Podcast Host]

I've seen studies on that. Yeah. For women.

[Abigail Morris]

For women.

[Podcast Host]

For men, it's even less.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly. So for me, like, 25, I'm like, I'm good.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

I'm fully. I'm happy. But I'm also like. I'm. What's the word? I don't know the word for it. I get off on other people having orgasms. I have a huge praise kink. And I have a huge cum kink.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Abigail Morris]

So. And a breeding kink. I have a bunch of kinks.

[Podcast Host]

A breeding kink. What is that?

[Abigail Morris]

That's where you just want to get, like, impregnated all the time. But I don't actually want to get pregnant. I just want, like, the idea of it.

[Podcast Host]

That's a new one for me. Breeding kings.

[Abigail Morris]

Breeding kings are so hot. However, like, I love the idea of making somebody come. Like, I love pleasing the other person. So I'm Fully satisfied after two minutes. If the other person just felt like they had no control and just came everywhere, then I'm just like turn on for you. Oh my God. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Because a lot of guys would be embarrassed.

[Abigail Morris]

A lot of guys are. But I feel like a lot of that is due to like mainstream movies though. Like they shame guys for coming fast and a lot of women are turned on by it. Like a lot of women are turned super. What? Who would it be like? Think about it. If you're. Let's pretend you're a woman for a second and you have a. And somebody's you and they're like, damn, your so good. I came in two minutes. Is that not kind of like a compliment?

[Podcast Host]

It's a compliment.

[Abigail Morris]

I think it's like a compliment on the highest level. Your body is so hot. Even if they're lying to us, I don't care if they're lying to me. You can lie to me as long as you're telling me my is great. But like it was, the whole thing was so good. The passion was so good, the chemistry was so good. The sex was so good that you came in two minutes. That's amazing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Let's do it again.

[Podcast Host]

When you put it that way, it makes sense. But then you hear the other side where it's like, you didn't make me finish. Now I'm upset that I think.

[Abigail Morris]

I guess girls that like that need that, then it definitely bothers them. I don't.

[Podcast Host]

You don't care?

[Abigail Morris]

I don't care if I come or not. I genuinely do.

[Podcast Host]

Serious.

[Abigail Morris]

I could give a less. I like, I love pleasing the other person and making the other person feel good. If they want to make me feel good, cool. We'll waste some time and do that. But like my thing is I want to definitely pleasure the other person as much as possible.

[Podcast Host]

That's impressive. Yeah. I could see why guys love you and girls shoes. Yeah, that's impressive. Wow. Yeah. I don't know if that's a normal thing. Like most girls don't think that way. No, not the ones I've talked to. But you talk to a lot.

[Abigail Morris]

So I, I talk to a lot. I mean a lot of the girls that I know are like that. But I guess it's different when you're in sex work.

[Podcast Host]

In your work. Yeah. Because you're trying to make them happy, right?

[Abigail Morris]

I guess. Yeah. For me I just, I. I get off on making people have pleasure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

You know, that's just. It genuinely does it for me. I could if I Make somebody come and they're relaxed and they feel good and they're happy. That's it for me. I'm. I'm happy I can just cuddle up and take a nap or watch movies or. I don'. Do whatever. Make them food. I don't care. Like, I'm just. I'm a happy girl.

[Podcast Host]

What's the quickest someone's finished then?

[Abigail Morris]

I don't know, A few seconds. No, like, not even bullshitting, like. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

From a hand job or.

[Abigail Morris]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, okay.

[Abigail Morris]

A hand job. I think the fastest is like a minute, minute and a half.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Few seconds. That means it's like two strokes. Yeah, Three strokes.

[Abigail Morris]

Just put it in. And a couple pumps and.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Abigail Morris]

Was so. I was so happy. I was so. I was like bouncing up and down. I was like, really? This happened? This is so cool.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Was it a fan?

[Abigail Morris]

No, it wasn't a fan. It was a partner.

[Podcast Host]

Really? That's impressive. Do you do fan stuff or. No?

[Abigail Morris]

No, not recently. I did it like a couple times before just because I loved it. Yeah, but at this point, it's just kind of complicated to factor that in.

[Podcast Host]

No, I feel that a lot of girls say that recently.

[Abigail Morris]

And it's safety, like, safety issue. One is a safety issue. And also two, like, I never want to put my co performers at risk. And so I don't know who else. Fans are like other co performers. I know that they're performers that are also tested and then fans, like. And I'm also allergic to condoms.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, wow.

[Abigail Morris]

And I wouldn't a fan without a condom, so it's one of those things.

[Podcast Host]

I didn't know that was an allergy.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It can be either. Sometimes it can be the lube that's on it, the spermicide, the latex itself. Like, there's a bunch of different things, but.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah. Condoms for me, just don't.

[Podcast Host]

What an allergy.

[Abigail Morris]

I know, right? Especially for someone that likes sex as much as I do. My body is just like, you know.

[Podcast Host]

Well, it makes the sex worse, though.

[Abigail Morris]

It does. Condoms suck.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

But still use them. But condoms suck.

[Podcast Host]

Someone needs to invent something better. They do, because it just removes the. The like, it doesn't feel as good.

[Abigail Morris]

It doesn't feel as good. I feel like it also throws off the chemistry a little bit and the passion because it just feels like there's like a barrier between, like, the actual skin to skin contact, which for me matters a lot. So again, porn works for me because everybody's tested so no condoms?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

You're getting tested weekly. That's. That's intense.

[Abigail Morris]

It's starting. Like I. One of the only things I don't like about getting tested weekly is I'm starting to have like little tracks so I look like a junkie. But no, they have to like go in through here with the needle so you get like little poke scars.

[Podcast Host]

They should invent a better method, like a finger prick or something.

[Abigail Morris]

I know, right? But they have to take a lot of blood, so.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, my God. I did not know that.

[Abigail Morris]

Well, they're testing for pretty much every STD on the books, so it's not just like a little finger prick you have to do to pee in a cup. You have to swab your booty, you have to swab your throat, you have to draw blood. Like, it's pretty much. It's a long list of things that they test for to make sure that everybody's safe.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Has there ever been an outbreak in the space?

[Abigail Morris]

Not since I've been in.

[Podcast Host]

That's good.

[Abigail Morris]

I know that there has been in the past. Yeah. I know that there's like big talks of things that used to happen, but since I've been in the industry, I haven't seen anything like that.

[Podcast Host]

I'm sure that's a fear of yours, right? Catching one of those.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, for sure.

[Podcast Host]

Because it would ruin your. Your livelihood.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly. So luckily I haven't caught anything back. Let's just hope everybody stays tested and that won't happen.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

But yeah, I've gotten lucky so far.

[Podcast Host]

What's the next? You got a video in mind or a plan?

[Abigail Morris]

Well, I filmed a scene tomorrow. Actually, I'm on set tomorrow and it's a boy, boy, girl. So it's me and two guys.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. So done that before?

[Abigail Morris]

Yes, I have done it a couple times. It's one of my favorite ways to do scenes because there's like normal one on one sex. Like it.

[Podcast Host]

It.

[Abigail Morris]

You're focused on it, but there's like, I don't know, it's very one on one.

[Podcast Host]

It's easy for you.

[Abigail Morris]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Let's just. Let's just cut to the chase.

[Abigail Morris]

There's a challenge there whenever there's two and then also there's like a lack of control, which I also find very arousing. So like they're all over you. They're just like grabbing you and throwing you where they want you and putting things in different places and dubbing it where it goes. And you're just kind of like in this heavenly little Bimbo space where everything is just happening and you're happy and

[Podcast Host]

horny and you got to surrender, right?

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely. And I think that's one of the hottest things is just being able to surrender. And I think that's one of the things that makes me love porn most is being able to. Because you're on there and you have a boundary checklist and you can go through and you can say, I don't want anything in my butt. I don't want you to step on my head. And I don't want bruises. Aside from that, go crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Right?

[Abigail Morris]

And they won't cross those boundaries and they go crazy and you just get to fulfill all of your craziest fantasies.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, the no list. I've heard of that. Right?

[Abigail Morris]

The no list these years.

[Podcast Host]

Pretty long.

[Abigail Morris]

No, it's just no fisting, no anal. No fisting, no anal and don't step on my head. That's the only ones.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's not bad at all. That's shorter than most, I think.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, that's literally it. Other than that, I love every. I love slapping, I love choking, I love, love everything. Like I can't think of anything I don't like.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Fisting. I'm with you on that. Standing on head. Yeah. I don't know why people do that.

[Abigail Morris]

I'm also tall, so it's just awkward height wise for somebody to even try to reach my head. So it just ends up looking dumb anyways. But also I just like. That feels rather. I love degradation to an extent. So like being called like a. Like a good little things like that I think is hot. But then stepping on my head feels like degradation in a way that is no longer hot. It feels almost disrespectful for sure. So for me that's kind of just like my boundary for that.

[Podcast Host]

That.

[Abigail Morris]

But like outside of that, I'm cool with everything.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I know Six9 loves the rapper. He steps on heads.

[Abigail Morris]

It's not my thing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, some guys are gonna do it.

[Abigail Morris]

I don't want your foot on my head. It's just kind of easy. But I'll lick toes. It's the craziest. I'll lick toes, but I don't want your foot on my head.

[Podcast Host]

And they have to shower before though.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, of course. Yeah. No, stinky toes don't do it for me.

[Podcast Host]

Well, some people lick stinky armpits from the gym after the gym.

[Abigail Morris]

So after gym armpits aren't my thing. I'll lick an armpit, but like a post shower armpit.

[Podcast Host]

Like, you like it clean?

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, I love everything.

[Podcast Host]

You want it shaven?

[Abigail Morris]

No care.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, you don't care?

[Abigail Morris]

No, But I'm a hygiene freak, so my biggest thing is, like, you can spit on my mouth if you brush your teeth. I will rim if you scrub very well. Like, I'm. I can go crazy and be a freak and in every way, if somebody's clean.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

If somebody's smelly, then it's probably.

[Podcast Host]

That ruins it, right?

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, it does.

[Podcast Host]

Has that happened on set before?

[Abigail Morris]

Once or twice, but it's usually people that are newer and they just don't know better, so I usually just invite them for a little shower and teach them how to scrub well. And then you just move on.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. You got to get in there.

[Abigail Morris]

Sometimes you really do pull back the foreskin, you know, bring the. Make sure that things are, you know, tidy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

But. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And your third one was no anal.

[Abigail Morris]

No anal. I've never done it.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, you never done it.

[Abigail Morris]

I've done, like, little butt plugs on only fans or, like, tiny little dildos on myself, but it's been in very controlled environments where I'm the one doing it.

[Podcast Host]

All right.

[Abigail Morris]

I've never had a penis in my

[Podcast Host]

butt and just scares you.

[Abigail Morris]

One, it's scary. And two, like. Like, I don't. Like, I've heard from a million girls that everything goes back to normal after, but I don't know. And, like, what if I'm just in diapers forever? No, that's frightening.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Having a loose sounds.

[Abigail Morris]

It doesn't sound like fun. And everybody says that that's not the case. And I know a bunch of. I don't think the performers would lie about it, but what if I'm just the random case that ends up with a ruined. Like, I don't. And also, it's not like I'm putting things in that are this big or normal, average guy dicks. The things were like this. And that's not really what I want going inside me. The girls that do that, props to them. I think they're amazing performers and their strength and resilience is insane. So, like, props to you guys. I'm so impressed. But no.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It always blows my mind when I'm, like, hearing stories of two fists in an ass. I'm like, how the.

[Abigail Morris]

I saw that at. At the Venus Convention in Berlin in Germany.

[Podcast Host]

How are they doing that? This is huge.

[Abigail Morris]

She had two fists in her ass and one in her.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's nuts. Some girl did two dicks in her ass at the Same time.

[Abigail Morris]

There's ones that have done, like, three.

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy.

[Abigail Morris]

I know. I'm just. I've done.

[Podcast Host]

That's kind of gay, though, in my opinion, as a guy, because your dick's on top of another dick, but the

[Abigail Morris]

vagina's on both sides.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, but your dicks are still touching, and then you're going in together. You don't think that's gay?

[Abigail Morris]

I don't think it's gay if you're both focused on the woman.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Abigail Morris]

Like, what if you're both just, like, grabbing a titty and you're like. If you're thinking about the fact that you're rubbing your dick on another dude's dick, you might want to, you know, see if that's something you're trying to explore. Yeah, but if the only thing you're thinking, the only way you make it gay, is if it's gay in your head. Otherwise, it's really not. You're a girl. What's gay about a girl? Yeah, you got bouncing titties. You have her looking in your eyes. You have her dirty talking to you. If that's what you're listening to, then you're definitely not gay.

[Podcast Host]

Good point. If the man is focusing on the girl, then it's.

[Abigail Morris]

But if you're sitting there just thinking about the fact that your dick's rubbing on another dick, you should probably explore whether you're into both genders.

[Podcast Host]

Some guys are confused.

[Abigail Morris]

Some guys are. You know, if. If your first thought is, is. Is it gay? Maybe you shouldn't be rubbing your dick on another dudes. That might be something you're trying to explore.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I don't think I'd ever do it theory way, Honestly.

[Abigail Morris]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Not my thing.

[Abigail Morris]

Too worried about your dick on another dude's dick?

[Podcast Host]

Nah, just, like, even if it was two girls, I don't. I don't think I'd do it.

[Abigail Morris]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

So are you more, like strictly monogamous?

[Podcast Host]

I would say so, yeah. But even before that, it just didn't do it. Not my calling.

[Abigail Morris]

I mean, it makes sense. Everybody has their own thing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I'm pretty vanilla. It's a. You know.

[Abigail Morris]

Well, if you enjoy that, then who gives a. Yeah, I just love, like, eating pussy while I'm getting.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's. That's you.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, that's me. It's not everybody. Yeah, you get.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it ranks pretty low for me.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Tell me more.

[Podcast Host]

I would say fourth or fifth.

[Abigail Morris]

Really? So what's the first connection?

[Podcast Host]

Friendship? Intelligence. So. So, like, I'M sabo sexual. So like intelligence is usually number one or two for me.

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

You got to be smart, you got to be able to hold a conversation.

[Abigail Morris]

I feel like we find less of that today.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, very much so. It's very much based off looks.

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely. Now it is.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

That's one of been one of the most frustrating things for me. Like meeting new people is not being able to have a conversation. And I'm not saying I'm one of the most intelligent people on the planet. I am not. But I can have a conversation without it just being about whether somebody needs a nose job. So. And I feel like that's something that's lacking a lot nowadays. People don't want to read, people don't want to have a real conversation and they can't pull their face out of their phone.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, well, IQs are dropping, attention span is dropping. It's. It's like we're heading towards that movie Idiocracy. If you've seen that, we're literally heading towards that.

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely. Have you? There was actually. When was it that it was released? Not too long ago. I don't remember where I read it, but they were saying that they're actually dumbing down movies because people are doom scrolling while they're watching movies. So they show everything in a way that it can be dumbed down and you can know exactly what's going on while playing on your fear at the same time.

[Podcast Host]

I can see that though.

[Abigail Morris]

If attention spans are so short that they have to dumb down a movie so you can play on your phone and watch the movie at the same time. That's just ridiculous.

[Podcast Host]

That sucks because I love watching movies where you have to think.

[Abigail Morris]

I love watching like thrillers. Inception is an amazing movie. You have to think like it's. There's so many Interstellar. Like there's so many different movies where they make. You actually need to think. And I think those are amazing things. But now you just sit there and everything is dumbed down. Like it just feels. I'm gonna just go back to watching the classics and just show up on recent tv.

[Podcast Host]

I don't watch too many modern movies.

[Abigail Morris]

What's the most recent one that you've watched that you enjoyed?

[Podcast Host]

Probably something on Netflix. I've mainly been doing shows, but what's been good recently? Oh, the Michael B. Jordan one in the West. It was like a horror thriller.

[Abigail Morris]

One vampire one.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that one was good. They won a couple Emmys.

[Abigail Morris]

I think it was really good.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, but that kind of movie is Lost. These Days.

[Abigail Morris]

There are not very many of those. And I think that's why it was so widely appreciated, is just because there isn't much like that anymore.

[Podcast Host]

And I've never seen someone do two roles in one movie.

[Abigail Morris]

It was amazing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Not. Nobody's done that. Lindsay Lohan did that as a kid.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah. In the Freaky Friday.

[Abigail Morris]

No, it was. What's the name of that movie? Parent Trap.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I haven't seen that one.

[Abigail Morris]

You haven't seen it?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, okay. She was the most adorable little ginger kid. But, yeah, no, that's. Somebody did that as a kid. But I haven't seen anything like that recently. No.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And he crushed it and didn't. I think he's just one of the best actors.

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Shout out to him, man. But yeah, I. I think movies are screwed lately.

[Abigail Morris]

They've kind of sucked. And I also. I used to love, like, the Marvel movies. I'm a huge Marvel nerd. Like, that's my happy place.

[Podcast Host]

You do some cosplay.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah. And, like, the MCU used to be a happy place. And then after Endgame, it just kind of, like, dropped off. I think they kind of picked back up with Deadpool and Wolverine, but I think they picked back up because they just hit all of the nostalgia points. Rather than actually building, like, the best storyline, they just tried to hit everybody's happiest nostalgia moments in one movie. So I feel like, I don't know, everything is just going downhill.

[Podcast Host]

Agree. After Avengers, I kind of stopped watching. Like, there was a bunch of new ones. There was, like, Guardians of the Galaxy. There was a couple Thors.

[Abigail Morris]

I also think that it was like, to Tony dying ruined so many things. Yeah, but why are you trying to bring him back? Like, if you did it, just kill him off. Just be done with it. Don't bring him back as a different character.

[Podcast Host]

Now he's Doom. Right.

[Abigail Morris]

I know. Which I'm kind of excited about. But I'm also. I. I have low hopes for it.

[Podcast Host]

Acting wise. We know he'll crush it, but it is kind of weird.

[Abigail Morris]

It is kind of weird.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You were definitely doing the Scarlet Witch. I could see it.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I could 100% see that one. Who else?

[Abigail Morris]

Scarlet Witch, Black Widow.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, Black Widow.

[Abigail Morris]

But I've also done, like, some D.C. stuff. I've done Starfire.

[Podcast Host]

I bet people love that one.

[Abigail Morris]

The Starfire people went crazy. My girlfriend did Ravens. We did, like, the Les and Starfire and Raven.

[Podcast Host]

I had the biggest crush on Starfire as a kid.

[Abigail Morris]

She's the Hottest. She's so hot. And she's a dork. I love it. I love, like the dork.

[Podcast Host]

Did you do the antennas too?

[Abigail Morris]

I did not. I did not do the antennas cuz I didn't want them to fall off while I was working around. Comic Con.

[Podcast Host]

I go to a Comic Con.

[Abigail Morris]

You. You haven't gone to come?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Abigail Morris]

Why not?

[Podcast Host]

I've just never been and I want

[Abigail Morris]

to go though, but it's a bunch of anti social, introverted intellects. It's. It's amazing.

[Podcast Host]

That's my crowd. You need to go 30 people.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly. New York Comic Con is the best one. Don't let any of the West Coasters tell you otherwise, okay?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, because San Diego has one, right?

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah. But New York.

[Podcast Host]

New York's the one.

[Abigail Morris]

New York's better.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Abigail Morris]

Also in San Diego, I feel like people cosplay less. So like in New York, it's rare to see somebody out of cosplay. And in San Diego, it's kind of more rare to see people in cosplay.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Which is definitely not what I like about it. I love the cosplay. I love the people that are so enthralled in their nerdy environments that they want to like, capture their favorite characters and bring them to life. So I think that's why me and San Diego just don't click.

[Podcast Host]

I feel a lot. Who do you think I could pull off? I don't look like many people.

[Abigail Morris]

You don't look like many people.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I got a unique look.

[Abigail Morris]

You could totally do Beast Boy.

[Podcast Host]

Beast Boy. I'd have to cut the hair, right?

[Abigail Morris]

No, just. Just fix it. Just pat it down a little.

[Podcast Host]

You know Beast Boy. He's short though, right?

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, that's actually. You know what? You're right.

[Podcast Host]

Who's tallering and skinny and nerdy? I don't even know, honestly, Asian. It's such a hard thing.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah, you're a very interesting one.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't know. Comment below, Guys. What?

[Abigail Morris]

You think if you just do some body paint and some, you know, different things, you could turn yourself into anybody. That's fair.

[Podcast Host]

So you go hard like that.

[Abigail Morris]

I have. Previously I did a. A threesome with Juliet, Michelle, Cherie Deville, and obviously me. And we did two bowsettes dping Princess Peach. But we did. We were hours doing like body paint and had like actual 3D props made and everything. And we did it in an actual, like mar. Not Marvel Mario style castle and everything. It was absolutely amazing. I was so cool. And we had like tentacled dicks and we just like Deep Peter. It was so cool. It was amazing.

[Podcast Host]

What's been your favorite cosplay to film?

[Abigail Morris]

That one?

[Podcast Host]

Oh, that one. Okay. Mario World.

[Abigail Morris]

Mario was so good. I've also done like Char. Like me and my girlfriend both dress up as Charizard and each other.

[Podcast Host]

I play Pokemon Go every day.

[Abigail Morris]

I play Pokemon Go.

[Podcast Host]

Oh really? Do you go to the park here?

[Abigail Morris]

I do. Well, there's actually up near my house, there's like this little park that has a bunch of different stops, like stops and stuff in it. And gyms and so it has like three different gyms. So on raid days I literally just like bounce, bounce, yo. Let's read them back then hit all the gym.

[Podcast Host]

I love that we're learning out about Pokemon. I go to all the community days. There's one tomorrow or Saturday.

[Abigail Morris]

I've never been to a community.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Abigail Morris]

Well, it doesn't involve like talking to people.

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Abigail Morris]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

No. I go to raid days. I go to community days. I'm going to do fest.

[Abigail Morris]

Like talk to people.

[Podcast Host]

Nah. So like basically I'll go to Desert breeze. There's like 100 people and we all just do raids. But I just go with my wife and me and her talk. I'm friends with a couple other kids.

[Abigail Morris]

Kids.

[Podcast Host]

But everyone's so autistic and nerdy. You know how Pokemon Go players are. No one's really talking to each other. We're all literally going like this. Like if people literally record us because they're like, what are these kids doing?

[Abigail Morris]

But that sounds like my happy place.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

I get to be on my phone and catch Pokemon and not talk to.

[Podcast Host]

I have two phones.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, we have six.

[Podcast Host]

What? You play on six phones? Holy crap.

[Abigail Morris]

Each of us raid on two phones.

[Podcast Host]

Oh my God. I gotta add, you guys. That's hilarious.

[Abigail Morris]

Yes, it's awesome. We definitely, we raid everywhere. We also, we went to Stonehenge whenever they had like the specific Stonehenge Pokemon. We caught that one. They had some exclusive Hawaii ones. They had exclusive ones in England. We've like, we go hard.

[Podcast Host]

That's nuts. Yeah. I'm flying to Chicago this year for Go Fest.

[Abigail Morris]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I'm going hard. I.

[Abigail Morris]

What's Go Fest?

[Podcast Host]

I think it's June. June, June 4 to 6.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, I'm going to be in Tahiti.

[Podcast Host]

They have it every year.

[Abigail Morris]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

I'm going to need to.

[Podcast Host]

I just got the game again this year cuz I played in High School 10 years ago and it's so fun. I've. I've already spent, like, 500 bucks.

[Abigail Morris]

Same.

[Podcast Host]

I've probably spent bad, but.

[Abigail Morris]

But I spend more on a different phone game, so I can't really complain about that. Age of Origins.

[Podcast Host]

I haven't heard of that one.

[Abigail Morris]

So you have your city. You build up your city, you recruit your troops, you have a dragon. You do all of these different things, and you go to war with other nations.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, wow.

[Abigail Morris]

And with the other nations, you just. Just burn each other to death. And it's so fun. I am the second strongest in my nation.

[Podcast Host]

Are you serious?

[Abigail Morris]

So I've spent a dramatic amount of money, like, getting as strong as I can so that I can burn people. And then when they go whine on Discord, I tell them to not be

[Podcast Host]

a. Oh, that is funny. And you're probably one of the few girls that play that game too.

[Abigail Morris]

One of the few.

[Podcast Host]

So they're pissed that you're beating them.

[Abigail Morris]

Oh, yeah. Like, what guy wouldn't be pissed? Well, they actually don't get as mad about it when they see that I have boobs. Then they're just kind of like, well, it is what it is.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they're probably super hyped.

[Abigail Morris]

They were a lot of people. I didn't, like, say I was a girl in the beginning. You also didn't say I was me in the beginning. So once people, like, once I changed my profile photo and my name, people were like, oh, it's just a fanboy. Like, it's a fanboy pretending to be.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

Then I started go, there's a really big. In that environment streamer that was, like, doing lives and talking about the game, and I would go and actually talk on his podcast and stuff. And then people were like, okay, it is a girl, but is it her? And then I started, like, doing live camera stuff and things like that and actually showing that it was me playing, and it definitely, like, made a difference.

[Podcast Host]

Nice. And you followed them over to the only fans after that?

[Abigail Morris]

No, no, no. That's actually not my goal. They're my happy little nerd environment. I don't need to mix the two. Like, I'm okay.

[Podcast Host]

Two different worlds.

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely. I'm okay having my nerd world in my. Like, I don't talk about my only fans. I don't talk about my other stuff there because I'm. I want them to be happy nerds and do murder with me. I don't need them to, like, jerk off with me. That's not my thing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I got two worlds. I got my gaming world where I'll nerd out. And then the pod world, it's completely

[Abigail Morris]

different and like, they overlap. Sometimes I'll get messages on OnlyFans that are people from the game and I'll get messages in the game from people that are only fans people. And like, it overlaps, but it's not my goal. I don't go into it trying to mix the two. I actually, there's a few. The one time that it did kind of cross over was when I hosted abn. I had a bunch of my. We have a leaders chat, which is like the R4s, the R5, like the different leaders in our alliance. And in the leaders chat, there's like five people that I get along with really well. And so they came to AVN to actually, like, support me while I was hosting. One of the guys came with his wife.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, nice.

[Abigail Morris]

There's ones that just came on their own and it's basically just nerds that have no idea anything about the street. And they're just there like, just like freaking out. It was. It was really cool that one of them is just like a massive gooner. And you could see he was just drooling the entire time at all of the porn stars he's watched for years. It was just. Oh, it was amazing. I absolutely love my life in every way.

[Podcast Host]

Nerds are taking over.

[Abigail Morris]

I love nerds.

[Podcast Host]

Nerds run the world.

[Abigail Morris]

Nerds are the coolest. Like, I would take a shy little nerd over an arrogant, cocky asshole any day.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Abigail Morris]

Yes. One million percent.

[Podcast Host]

Even if they're, like, skinny and.

[Abigail Morris]

Who gives a fuck about that?

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah. I don't care. I don't care about height. I don't care about weight. I don't care if you have a dad bod. Your personality is what matters to me. And the sex part. But not even the dick size. The sex part. The sex has to be good. I don't give a fuck. What size dick.

[Podcast Host]

Can you have good sex with a small dick?

[Abigail Morris]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Abigail Morris]

Yes. How you grind on it. You make it work. If you can grind on your hand and come. If you can grind on a pillow and come. If you can grind on whatever the. And come. Yk and do the same on a piece penis.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. What's the smallest you've seen?

[Abigail Morris]

I've been with micro penises.

[Podcast Host]

No way those exist.

[Abigail Morris]

They actually exist.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Abigail Morris]

Like, when it was soft, it was kind of inverted. And then when he got hard, it came out to, like, this.

[Podcast Host]

No way. And he made you finish?

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What? Gotta be with his mouth, right?

[Abigail Morris]

No, I finished on Top.

[Podcast Host]

No way.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah. You just. It's about chemistry, passion, and also the woman knowing her body. So if you're not a woman that's very in tune with her body or if you're a size queen, because that also is a thing, then it won't work for you.

[Podcast Host]

Got it.

[Abigail Morris]

But for me personally, like, I get off on everything, and a lot of it for me is mental. If the chemistry is good, if the passion is good, I'll find a way to come that's impressive.

[Podcast Host]

Now, there's procedures that can tighten your vagina. Did you know that?

[Abigail Morris]

I've heard that, yeah. I'm scared.

[Podcast Host]

You want to do it?

[Abigail Morris]

I might one day. I want to give it a lot of time for research first. Yeah, Like a lot.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I know a few girls that have done it.

[Abigail Morris]

I haven't had any complaints about mine so far. Once it starts loosening up, then I might revisit that conversation.

[Podcast Host]

No loosening complaints.

[Abigail Morris]

No. Damn, no. I mean, my boyfriend's been having sex with me for a lot of years, and he's not much of a bullshitter, so I always ask him straight up. I'm like, is my the same? And he's like, yes, it's still the same. I'm like, are you sure it will not offend me?

[Podcast Host]

That's a myth.

[Abigail Morris]

When people depending on how much sex you have.

[Podcast Host]

Well, you have sex.

[Abigail Morris]

I have a lot of sex. It doesn't loosen things up. Like your gets looser whenever you're in a comfortable situation because your body relaxes and it opens up. That. That's anatomy. That's just how that works. But your vagina doesn't just stretch out and stay stretched out. Otherwise, how would you be able to have a kid and go back to normal?

[Podcast Host]

Sometimes it tears when you have kids.

[Abigail Morris]

That is. Yeah, that's true.

[Podcast Host]

That sucks.

[Abigail Morris]

That doesn't sound like I haven't had kids.

[Podcast Host]

So I don't know.

[Abigail Morris]

I don't know. I'm not 100% sure. One, I'm only 25. I don't think I need to decide that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's pretty young.

[Abigail Morris]

But two, it's just like, I love traveling, I love exploring, and I have no issue having kids. Kids because of my job. Like, that doesn't bother me at all whatsoever. But I don't know if I want to take off because if I did decide to have a kid, I would take off probably about a year before and a year after I have the kid. Just to kind of just make sure 1. Everything is safe. Make sure everything's regulated, like, make sure I'm in the safest environment and everything. But I'm just not 100 sure if I want that yet. My mom had eight. My mom had nine kids.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Abigail Morris]

So one, that's. I know where I got my sex drive from. But two, that just, like, I did a lot of the, you know, the bathing, the nighttime crying and bottle feeding and diaper changing.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, so you were the oldest?

[Abigail Morris]

I was the second oldest, but the two other ones had moved out. It was technically oldest.

[Podcast Host]

You had to be a mom, like, pretty much early years.

[Abigail Morris]

From the early years. So I just. I'm not sure 100% if I want that. I did all of the cute little baby stuff, so now I'm just like, I'm not sure yet.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I went with the same approach. I wanted to live out my 20s, travel a lot, and now that I'm approaching 30, I'm kind of wanting them.

[Abigail Morris]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know, because women are kind of on a clock too, so.

[Abigail Morris]

So that's very fair.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because she's 28 now, so, like, you know, they say not to have them past 35, I believe.

[Abigail Morris]

I think 35 is usually where they say not to. And they say that they recommend earlier if you want your body to bounce back quick just because the body has a faster regeneration and able to heal faster whenever you're younger. So my. I've always said if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it before 30. But the good news is I have a girlfriend. So if by any chance I want the kid, but I don't wanna pop it out, so just tell her I wanna impregnate you and surrogacy. Right, Exactly. But it's with somebody that I love, because I don't think I could do a surrogate. I learned the only one singular moment where I feel jealousy is thinking about somebody else carrying my child. That's my girlfriend. So if it's me or my girlfriend, I think that that's lovely. Like, if she carries it, I'm gonna love it and everything. But I don't like the idea of a surrogate carrying my baby because it's gonna be with their DNA. They're gonna hear the woman's voice every day instead of mine. And then it's. It's just a million different things that make me uncomfortable. So it was the only environment where I feel jealousy. Like, I don't want somebody else carrying my baby.

[Podcast Host]

Interesting thing. What about adoption?

[Abigail Morris]

I would adopt.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Abigail Morris]

I would totally adopt. Yeah, that's completely different, though.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I go back and forth on it. I saw when my cousins was adopted, there were some health issues that they didn't know about. So, like, it's kind of similar to dogs, like we talked about.

[Abigail Morris]

Yes, absolutely. It's. You definitely want to do your research. And. And it's. It's a messy thing, or it can be a messy thing, but I think adoption is really great, especially because there's so many kids that they just want to be loved, you know? So I think it's important to make sure that you want to do adoption and then not adopt a kid and then make it feel adopted all the time, because I've seen that happen, too.

[Podcast Host]

Would you tell the kid if you adopted it?

[Abigail Morris]

I would.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Abigail Morris]

And not because, like, I don't know. Not because I want to shove it in their face, because that's definitely. I don't want to bully my kid.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

But I think it's important for them to know. And then how betrayed would they feel later on if they find out they were adopted and I lied to them their whole life?

[Podcast Host]

You see that with people.

[Abigail Morris]

You see that a lot. I wouldn't want to lie to my kid. Unless it's, like, a white lie. Like, if you get candy, your tummy's gonna hurt. That's. I think that's an okay lie.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abigail Morris]

But telling your kid, yes, you came out of my vagina, and then telling it later on. No, somebody else's vagina.

[Podcast Host]

Like, it's a whole identity crisis.

[Abigail Morris]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host]

I would tell.

[Abigail Morris]

And also, like, they would need to know for the future. Like, what if they have a health incident when they're an adult, I'm dead, and nobody's there to tell them, hey, you were adopted. They're not going to know an actual real medical history.

[Podcast Host]

Right. Their blood type.

[Abigail Morris]

And yeah, there's an actual, like, real connection to health things and obviously past parents. So it's important for them to know.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, Abigail, this was fun. You're a great guest. Thanks for coming on. Where can people find you?

[Abigail Morris]

I guess the easiest place is Instagram. It's Abigail Morris, but Abigail is spelled weird. It is not a type of typo. It's a B, I, G, A I, I, L. And then from there, there's a link there with all of my websites.

[Podcast Host]

So check her out, guys, and let's play some Pokemon next time we see each other.

[Abigail Morris]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Let's do it. See you guys. Peace. If you learned anything from this episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to us. Thank you so much.