Capt Tazaryach Vs. King Azoulay: The Most Controversial Jesus Debate | DSH #2085

Summary

Digital Social Hour | Episode #2085

Capt Tazaryach Vs. King Azoulay: The Most Controversial Jesus Debate

Date: July 28, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly

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Episode Overview

This episode features a heated and unfiltered debate between Capt Tazaryach (a Black Israelite leader) and King Azoulay (a self-proclaimed Sephardic Jew and entrepreneur) about the identity of Jesus, the origins and legitimacy of Jews and Israelites, interracial marriage, slavery, oppression, and modern issues like technology and societal decay. The conversation is raw, provocative, sometimes humorous, and unafraid to confront deeply controversial cultural, religious, and racial topics head on.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Jewishness of Biblical Figures

• Both agree that the New Testament was written by Jews, including Luke; Tazaryach insists all disciples were Jewish and that the New Testament is only for Israelites.
• On Jesus’ ethnicity:
  • A: "Was Jesus a Jew?"
    B: "Absolutely." (00:17)
  • A: "Was he white or black?"
    B: "By today's standards, he would be black." (00:19)
  • Tazaryach cites biblical descriptions (e.g. woolly hair, dark skin) to argue Jesus was Black (12:00–12:30).

2. Race, Interracial Marriage, and Identity

• Both strongly discourage interracial marriage, arguing for “staying with your own” for cultural and experiential understanding.
  • B: "On the subject of Interracial, I don't agree with it at all. The Bible doesn't agree with it. … The twelve tribes of Israel from my lens, can only be with each other because Latinos are my people, too. Native Indians are my people, too." (03:29–06:05)
• King Azoulay frames relationships in utilitarian terms, discussing modern dating difficulties and gamophobia (commitment-phobia).
  • A: "It's very, very difficult to make it work… People don't want to have children. People don't want to be married…" (01:28–02:49)
• Both detail their requirements for marriage partners, especially on faith, ethnicity, and even virginity for women (65:01–70:10).

3. DNA Testing, Legitimate Jewish Identity, and Israelite Claims

• Debates over DNA tests and their legitimacy in proving Jewish or Israelite ancestry.
  • A: "I did my test to make sure that I'm Jewish today. You could do a DNA test, tells you you're Jewish." (06:05–06:36)
  • B: "No DNA test, man. ...I don't trust the DNA." (06:21–07:58)
• Disagreement over matrilineal versus patrilineal descent in Jewish tradition:
  • B: "In Judaism, y’all gonna tell me because the baby came out of a Jewish woman, that makes the baby Jewish. And that's not in the Bible." (10:09–11:12)

4. Who is 'Really' Oppressed? Slavery & Victimhood

• Tazaryach insists Black people in America are the most oppressed, citing ongoing disenfranchisement unlike other groups who eventually assimilated or improved their status.
  • B: "Italians come over here as illegal immigrants and criminals, they don’t have to be that no more… But for us, we have never been allowed to be liberated… we're been more oppressed than you guys." (87:16–89:05)
• Azoulay pushes back, suggesting all cultures have experienced slavery and oppression; both discuss Jewish involvement in the slave trade.
  • A: "I 100% agree that everyone had slaves, every single culture." (33:31, 85:30)

5. Cultural Appropriation & Claims to Israelite Status

• Capt Tazaryach repeatedly rebuffs the legitimacy of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews as Israelites, calling their presence in Israel conversion, not inheritance.
  • B: "Moroccan, Portuguese, Spaniard, German, Russian, Poland. That's what you are. And you just converted because we migrated into those regions." (81:52–82:10)
• Azoulay insists he is Sephardic with Levantine roots but open about the complexities and confusion around Jewish identity.

6. Social Media, Technology, and Modern Decay

• Both express concern about the direction of society—decay of family, relationships, and reliance on technology/AI.
  • A: "In 10 years, AI will replace God for majority of humans. … They will go to AI to ask..." (91:25)
  • B: "We're getting more base… The more we're dependent on machines… that's why I said The Matrix." (92:35–93:16)

7. Religion, Morality, and the Need for God

• Azoulay advocates for the moral necessity of religion regardless of which one:
  • A: "When they're godly humans, we see that they carry themselves differently. Women are more preserved, men are less violent, they cheat less..." (52:59–53:57)
• Tazaryach adds:
  • B: "The Bible, it says, when the righteous are in authority, the world rejoice. When the wicked are in authority, the people mourn... we are the most compassionate people on the planet." (55:29)

8. Personal Trauma and Transformation

• Both reflect on childhood, racial trauma, and how they came to see ‘soul’ rather than color.
  • A: "I used to hate black people because when I was 13, I got jumped by, like 30 of them… something has changed… I started to see souls, not colors." (58:31–59:36)
  • B: "For somebody that looks at the despair of my people, I don't speak anecdotally. That's why you notice I keep saying we. I'm always generalizing because I'm not talking about myself, because I don't have a worry like that… but my people are not afforded the opportunity to hide their melanin…" (22:02–22:49)

9. Gender Roles, Marriage, Family, and Sexual Norms

• Discussion on marriage requirements, the value of virgins, critique of modern women (especially those over 30), and polygamy.
  • Notable exchanges about the sexual marketplace, women’s roles, and why some men seek younger women for marriage and procreation.
  • B: "So if she's not a virgin, I wouldn't marry her. That's number one." (69:56)
  • A: "I've done it enough... Now I need the right one." (70:07)

10. Elites, AI, and Conspiracy

• Speculation on the influence of elites, government tracking, LifeLog, Facebook, and the symbolism of technology (e.g. the Apple logo).
  • A: "On February 4, 2004, they agreed to shut down LifeLog. You know what opened up that same day? Facebook. Do you think Mark started Facebook?" (94:52–95:46)
  • A & B: Discuss how elites plan to replace “rebels” and nonproductive people with robots by 2032–2035. (95:46–96:53)
• Tazaryach connects UFO disclosures to a future scenario in which the world unites against a supernatural 'alien' threat—a metaphor for the Messiah's return (97:04–98:20).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "By today’s standards, he would be black."
  – Capt Tazaryach, on Jesus’ identity (00:19, repeated at 11:49)

• "If a Chinese man was to have sex with a white woman, with an African woman, and with an Asian woman, that seed… would all come out Chinese."
  – Capt Tazaryach, challenging matrilineal Jewish identity (10:09–11:12)

• "If you look at the black experience, there’s a lot of black men that have a wife or a woman that when they go through black issues, cannot relate to them because they're with someone that's not their own."
  – Capt Tazaryach (03:29)

• "I realized that everybody's the same, just brainwashed differently."
  – King Azoulay (15:25)

• "There's no such thing as black on black crime. … The majority of crime, period, it's by the same race of people. Because it's in your area."
  – Capt Tazaryach (24:54–25:34)

• "If all of you guys, they're blacks now you marry a white woman… eventually there won't be any more black people."
  – King Azoulay (36:05–36:53)

• "I like Jon Jones. I like John. I like Rampage, too."
  – Capt Tazaryach, on Black cultural heroes (34:12)

• "When you see kids today and they're allowed to use their phones for math and algebra… it makes them dependent on this as opposed to their brain."
  – Capt Tazaryach (92:35–93:16)

• "There's more whites, Jewish and white people on welfare than us."
  – Capt Tazaryach (88:12)

• "In 10 years, AI will replace God for majority of humans."
  – King Azoulay (91:25)

• "[Facebook] – Do you think Mark started Facebook? Do you think so? No shit."
  – King Azoulay, on elites and technology (95:42)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic / Exchange | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:17 | Opening question: “Was Jesus a Jew or not?” | | 03:29–06:05 | Interracial marriage debate: both guests’ positions | | 10:09–11:12 | Matrilineal vs. Patrilineal Jewish identity | | 12:00–12:30 | Biblical physical description of Jesus and race | | 15:25 | “I realized that everybody's the same, just brainwashed differently.” | | 24:54–25:34 | ‘Black on black crime’ as a myth, intra-racial crime rates | | 36:05–36:53 | “Eventually there won't be any more black people” – impact of interracial marriage | | 52:59–55:29 | Moral need for religion, godliness, and society | | 58:31–59:36 | Azoulay’s personal transformation: “I started to see souls, not colors.” | | 65:01–70:10 | Discussion of marriage marketplace, virginity, and future family planning | | 81:03–82:47 | “Who’s the most oppressed?” & Sephardic/Ashkenazi Jewish origins debate | | 87:16–89:05 | Comparing liberation and ongoing Black oppression in America | | 91:25–92:35 | Fears of AI replacing God, technological society concerns | | 95:42 | LifeLog, Facebook & digital surveillance | | 97:04–98:20 | Tazaryach’s end-times scenario: aliens, Messiah, and world unity |

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Tone, Style, and Atmosphere

The conversation is candid, at times combative, and laced with dark humor and sarcasm. Both guests are unapologetically blunt, frequently leveraging anecdotes, “truth bombs,” and personal philosophies, and often challenge each other's worldviews. Despite heated topics, the debate ends on a surprisingly reflective and friendly note, emphasizing personal growth, the search for common ground, and the need for strong individual and communal values.

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Final Reflections

While ostensibly a debate about “Who is the real Israelite? Who is most oppressed? Who has legitimate claim to identity?” the episode is, at heart, an exploration of race, religion, belonging, masculinity, tradition, and the forces shaping modern society. It’s a microcosm of high-stakes culture war debates, providing insight, conflict, and rare moments of agreement—especially about the need for meaning, dignity, and community in a rapidly changing world.

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[For full context, listeners are encouraged to start at 00:17 (debate proper) and focus on major topic transitions as marked above.]

Transcript

[A]

Every single book in the New Testament was written by a Jewish man, I believe, except Luke. They didn't know if he was Jewish.

[B]

No, he was a Jew, too.

[A]

All of them. 100% sure.

[B]

But no, they are.

[A]

They all was written by a Jew.

[B]

I'm tell you how you know, because the New Testament is only for Israelites. It's only for Jews.

[A]

Let me ask you, was Jesus a Jew?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Was he white or black?

[B]

By today's standards, he would be black.

[A]

What does that mean?

[B]

So I grew up Christian on my mother's side and father's side, and it wasn't until I got older that I, you know, I started seeing the lies of it when I was young, and then I stepped away from it when I got older.

[A]

I 100% agree that everyone had slaves, every single culture.

[B]

And then, you know what's crazy?

[A]

Even as when we're talking about slaves, I'm talking about people who worked for you. Because if you really think, what does a slave do?

[B]

So he goes to work, right? Gets paid. Right?

[A]

He gets a bed, place to sleep

[B]

at night, but he doesn't get his identity taken and he doesn't get tortured. And his children don't go into that same captivity that he's in when you do that. That's shadow slavery.

[A]

All right, guys, we got another debate for y' all today. We got the Captain versus the King. Today, two of my most vile guests joined together. Welcome to the show, guys. We ready to do this thing?

[B]

Yeah, ready to do it.

[A]

Which topic do you want to start with? Judaism. Who's more oppressed?

[B]

Interracial marriage doesn't matter to me.

[A]

I like interracial marriages. I. Let's start with that. I like that topic. That's a good topic. Give your stance on that. So if you ask me today, seeing everybody and seeing how marriages don't even work out anymore, even marrying someone of a different religion, different color, different race, different nationality, is most likely not going to work. People of the same kind don't really work. So to have somebody that is different than you, it's very, very difficult to make it work. Now, obviously, it's because everything that's been happening on social media and what women see and what men see, that they don't really even want to have a marriage anymore. So we're kind of stuck in this place where people don't even want to have children. People don't want to be married people. A lot of men today, and I believe also women are getting it, are sick with something called gamophobia. Gammaphobia is a disease that people don't want to have any kind of commitment or responsibility, so they don't want to have the commitment. And also, women have made it too easy to get what a man wants as the end goal, which is getting her into bed.

[B]

Right?

[A]

They've made it so easy to the point that a man now understands, I don't need to buy a whole cow to get a cup of milk. I get that cup of milk anyways.

[B]

So why buy the cow?

[A]

Why buy the cow?

[B]

Right?

[A]

The cow gets old, the cow deteriorates. And let's not forget, today you're buying an older cow. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. It's not like back.

[B]

You buy a used cow. Yeah. Miles on it, right?

[A]

The cow that wants to MARRY you, she's 35.

[B]

I was, I was thinking reverse. I was thinking differently. I wasn't thinking she was 35. I was thinking if she was 25, she was still used up. I thought that's the approach he was going to. Because when you use the analogy of you can get the milk without the cow. There was a time where a woman, you actually courted a woman, you actually wowed or wooed a woman. What you said about social media, that's part of the reason why nobody wants a real relationship. Because social media is about the flash, it's about the wave. This comes and it goes, comes and it goes. And if you're not careful, you make that your real life to where your relationship could come and go. Because you think, oh, well, I got them online, I can get another one online. I got her online, I can get another one online. And then when women allowed us to just buy our way into their bodies, they don't realize that you just took away like the greatest thing a woman got is her body. Same thing with a man. Because that's the one thing. If I get a hold of this woman's body, that's the one thing she could say, I either gave it away to a lot of men or only gave it to 1. Or 2. I only gave it to 2. But if you gave it away to a lot of men, why would you ever think somebody's going to marry you? That's why. What do they do when they get 35 and 40? They try to go get young boys because the young boy they figure is dumb. I can trick them because a seasoned man is going to be like, I don't want your old ass. Cuz you all used up, right? On the subject of Interracial. I don't agree with it at all. The Bible doesn't agree with it. You know, I'm Bible, so I go by the Torah, Tanakh and the New Testament. And what I like about Christ is Jesus Christ gave us the spirit of how to keep the Torah, so he gave us the spirit of not giving away your daughters and your sons. Because if you look at. I'm pretty sure what I say about this side is in general, when you look at the black experience, there's a lot of black men that have a wife or a woman that when they go through black issues, cannot relate to them because they're with someone that's not their own. So same thing with black women. When they go through pain, they're with a lot of men that are not their own race, so how could they ever understand it?

[A]

So you're saying that black should be with black?

[B]

Yes, correct.

[A]

That's what I'm also saying.

[B]

Okay, perfect.

[A]

Black should be with black.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I'll tell you why.

[B]

Oh, wait, before you do that, just to clarify, when I say black, I mean the twelve tribes of Israel from my lens, can only be with each other because Latinos are my people, too. Native Indians are my people too.

[A]

There is Jews all around the world. Maybe some of them. You don't accept them. I can show you. For example, I did my test to make sure that I'm Jewish today. You could do a DNA test, tells you you're Jewish.

[B]

Come on, man.

[A]

If you're not Jewish, we can't believe.

[B]

No DNA test, man.

[A]

Well, you know what? I believe that from my ancestors and from everything that I've been taught and my family, that I was Jewish. But I went to the extent and wanted to make sure I got a DNA test.

[B]

What did it say? Where it say you was from?

[A]

Sephardic. What do you mean from?

[B]

But where?

[A]

Morocco.

[B]

But Morocco is not where. Israel. So it would have to be in the Levant region. It would have to be in Israel.

[A]

If you, for example, right now did a DNA test, what does it say?

[B]

You said what if you ran a

[A]

DNA test on yourself? Have you done one before?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All right, what did it say? Where are you from?

[B]

It said that I primarily came from. No, no, no. It said I primarily came from the west coast of Africa is where it said I came from. But the reason why I don't deal with DNA for ancestry only, like if it's a child, if it's like for someone that committed a crime or something like that. That's live data. You can test that, but they have stories where you can look up online where they'll send one woman to three different DNA clinics for ancestry. She get three different answers. There's a white couple that had triplet daughters. They sent them for a DNA test. Even their information was not the same. And they all went to the same clinic. Because you can only go back so far before it's just in a guess. So if they know you're Jewish, Right, and they know I came off the slave ships, it ain't going to be nothing to say. Well, you come from the west coast of Africa. I knew that before I took a DNA test. Isn't going to be nothing to say that you came from Morocco because your history already says you come from Morocco. So I don't trust the DNA.

[A]

So mine shows that I'm a Sephardic Jew and I have a little bit of Ashkenazi, but mostly like 99.

[B]

Some of that Ashkenaz on your daddy's side or your mama's side, mom's side. Okay, but I'm 90 on your dad's side. Which one would your dad's house say?

[A]

No, it doesn't tell your dad or mom.

[B]

Yes, it does.

[A]

No, not mine. Yeah, but I'm a 99 or 98 Safari.

[B]

Where did you go, if you don't mind me asking?

[A]

Ancestry.

[B]

So I went to. I did 23andMe. So you're supposed to get a paternal side and a maternal side. And the importance of that statement is that like a woman, like if we had a woman in here and she said she did that she couldn't get her father's side because she doesn't carry the Y chromosome because you and I carry X and Y. You can get your X data and you can get your Y data. The Y data is the data that they says never changes. Even like in the Bible, how it goes by you are what your father is with the children of Israel. So even the Bible goes by the father. So that Y chromosome, they say that's original. So if you were a haplogroup. I'm trying to think of the haplogroups off the top of my head. Did they tell you what haplogroup you were?

[A]

So you're saying that back in the day used to go by the father, right?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And then it's changed to the mother. You know why?

[B]

Because them Ashkenazis, them Jewish and Judaism changed it. But that's nowhere in the Old or New Testament.

[A]

You ever heard of Bar Kokhba? No.

[B]

You could Tell me about it.

[A]

Bar Kochba is in the Bible when he rebeled against the Romans and they killed over 1 million Jewish men and they enslaved the women.

[B]

That's not in the Bible.

[A]

What you're talking about is that we'll talk about it a little bit longer. We'll look into it.

[B]

With Bible, have to get new. You believe in the New Testament?

[A]

I never went through the New Testament. The New Testament was.

[B]

When you say Romans, though, you would have to talk about the New Testament.

[A]

Well, I'm giving you one of the stories of why it switched to the time. You know, let's say if you sat down and you read the New Testament.

[B]

I read the New Testament. I believe in the New Testament.

[A]

And I get that you believe in Jesus.

[B]

That's right. That you are Jewish. No, I'm not Jewish. No, no, I'm a Jew. I'm not Jewish.

[A]

What's the difference?

[B]

I had like, the Jewish is like, you want to be a Jew. That's not even in the Bible. Jewish is not in the Bible. It's either Jew, Jews or Judah. Jewish is more like Judaism. So when you break down, you are from your mother, you're going to tell me some story about something happened to men and now you only come for women. But last time I checked, we all had sperm in our balls. And if we got sperm in our balls, that sperm plants in the sea. So if I was to take. I'm going to use me, because I'm going to do shit like that. But if a white man would. No, no, I don't want to use him. A Chinese man. If a Chinese man was to have sex with a white woman, with an African woman, and with an Asian woman, that seed that he planted in there would all come out Chinese because that's what he is. But in Judaism, y' all gonna tell me because the baby came out of a Jewish woman, that makes the baby Jewish. And that's not in the Bible. Okay. Did I explain it good?

[A]

I mean, you explain it. You have your ways.

[B]

I'm asking if I. Good. I'm at, like.

[A]

I don't know if it's 100% good for me.

[B]

But that's why I want you to. To chime in. I want you to.

[A]

So there is a bit of an issue, because the knowledge that I have and the knowledge that you have is knowledge that was put upon us.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Every single book in the New Testament was written by a Jewish man. I believe. Except Luke. They didn't know if he was Jewish.

[B]

No, he was a Jew. Too.

[A]

They're all of them, 100% sure. But they all was written by a Jew.

[B]

I'm going tell you how you know, because the New Testament is only for Israelites. It's only for Jews. It's not.

[A]

Let me ask you, was Jesus a Jew?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Was he white or black?

[B]

He would. By today's standards, he would be black.

[A]

What does that mean?

[B]

Meaning like those. The terms black, white didn't exist back then. But the N word. For example, in Acts 13:1, they called the disciples N I, G, E, R, which is where the word, the N word comes from. The N word comes from the Latin word niger, which means black. So Christ is described as woolly hair, skin darker than mine, skin almost as dark as this. So he wouldn't be what they would call.

[A]

Is this in the New Testament?

[B]

Yes, and in the Old Testament, because in Daniel 10, 5 and 6, when it describes the Son of Man, it describes him exactly how it describes Jesus in Revelations, the first chapter.

[A]

Now, was he 10 because he was out by the desert or was he? Or was he black?

[B]

It said he was so dark as if he burned in the furnace. So I was out in the sun yesterday. That's why I was out in the sun yesterday on purpose.

[A]

Why do Christians. Why do Christians display him as a white man?

[B]

Because that's what. Because the white man would never serve a black king. So of course he's going to take it what they call a Renaissance. You've heard of the Renaissance era. So before the Renaissance era, all of the fresco paintings that you will find of Jesus, Paul, Peter, Moses, they would all be melanated or they would all have brown skin. And then in the Renaissance era, that's when they began to whitewash it. A good book is called the Russian Icons, and they have the artwork and they say these pictures survive the whitewashing of the Renaissance era. That image that they have of Jesus Christ is Caesar Boise. It's diabolical because, you know, his homosexual lover, Michelangelo painted him. They were, you know, gay lovers. Cesar Boise slept with his sister. That's who they make. And they make her the image of Mary, Lucretia. And so that's the history of who the image that they say is Jesus Christ. But the Jesus Christ in the Bible just doesn't line up in the Old or New Testament.

[A]

So you read through the Old Testament, you read through the New Testament, the Old Testament, you read through the Torah, the five books.

[B]

Yeah. And of course, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Joshua, Judges, like that too.

[A]

And who is your God?

[B]

The most high. Yeah. I don't know how what Yahweh say. His name for us is Yahweh. Some say Yahweh or Jehovah, but Jesus is.

[A]

So you're like, considered like Jehovah's Witness?

[B]

Hell, no. I'm an Israelite.

[A]

Israelite, yeah.

[B]

I'm just.

[A]

You have to educate me because.

[B]

No, no, no. That's Just understand. Just ask whatever you want. You're a good content creator as well as. I so don't. I'm pretty sure nothing I say is going to bother you.

[A]

No, no. So I'm an Israelite, has their knowledge.

[B]

Yeah. I hate Jehovah's Witnesses. I hate Christians. I hate Roman Catholics. I hate. I hate Jewish people.

[A]

By the way, this is. It's funny to me because he's wearing a Jewish star, but this is mine.

[B]

But this is my. This is not a star, actually.

[A]

But you know how.

[B]

You know. This is not a star, though.

[A]

But you know how it's mind to

[B]

me, because to me you're wearing the Jewish. But I'm gonna unfuck you because I'm a man. I'm a man, so I'm not gonna. You, I'm gonna unfuck you. But this is not a star, though. This is David's name. Okay, so in ancient Hebrew, So modern Hebrew, they draw, you know, like the little stick writings and all that stuff, but in ancient Hebrew.

[A]

So why is everybody so mixed up?

[B]

Well, I would say it's our fault, meaning the children of Israel's fault. Because the children of Israel, let's say you're the Jew.

[A]

I'm not the Jew.

[B]

Okay? Right. Why are we all so probably told the truth?

[A]

Why are we all so. To me, I have to understand. I. I've realized that everybody's the same, just brainwashed differently.

[B]

Right? Right.

[A]

That's what I see. We all have a brain. If I took you right now and I raised you as a Arab, you will be an Arab. If I raise you as a Chinese

[B]

man, I'm not one of you.

[A]

You're gonna be like a Chinese man. In my opinion, everyone is equal when it comes down to a soul level. Because if right now I take water and I put it in a black cup, I put it in a yellow cup, put it in a white cup, I put in a red cup, no matter what you do, the water will still stay the same color. The cups might look differently. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. But I think only black people believe in equality. I don't think your people. I don't think White people believe in equality. No, I'm not. You notice I'm not speaking anecdotally.

[A]

I mean, that's a white to you or black, because we're kind of like the same.

[B]

I don't know. So I would have to know your

[A]

background because, like, my grandparents are from Morocco.

[B]

So if you're African from Morocco, let's say if you're a ham, because Morocco.

[A]

I'm in Auli, and Aula is a royal family. I'm from the tribe of Judah.

[B]

Not. Not in Morocco. If you go back, not in Morocco,

[A]

just because my grandparents are from.

[B]

Let me answer, let me answer, because

[A]

does that mean that we started in Morocco?

[B]

So here's what I would say to you, right? Before I would classify who you are, I would just have to know meaning, like, because Israel migrated into those regions in Europe, into Spain, Portugal, Iberia and stuff like that, in Morocco, in those regions, we don't start off saying anybody is anything until we found out the history. So because you're laying claim to this before, I would actually say whether you are and aren't, I would just have to verify where, as opposed to like when AMC or I say am, when Ashkenazi is coming here, they're not connected to us at all. So I'm not going to say whether you are or aren't.

[A]

And I could tell you that Ashkenazi Jews, okay, now I'm going to name them for what I know them as.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You might not think they're Jews, in my opinion. Ashkenazi Jew, Sephardic Jew. I'm a Sephardic Jew.

[B]

Could I be a Jewish?

[A]

Sure, why not?

[B]

Okay. But the difference is the way that they. The way that the Ashkenazis became Judaism was through total conversion.

[A]

Because you have to understand that there is Jewish people in Israel that are black.

[B]

How are they treated?

[A]

Perfectly fine. No, no, I would disagree. Some. Some are singers, some are celebrities, some are doctors, some are.

[B]

Some are lawyers so they can get a benefit. You know, during slavery in America. You know, during slavery in America, they were singers, they were black singers, they were black entertainers. They were black builders during slavery. So we're still enslaved. That just means that you think me

[A]

and you are not enslaved.

[B]

Let me give you a funny story.

[A]

Wait, wait, Me and you are not.

[B]

Let me give you a funny story.

[A]

You think we're not slaves right now?

[B]

Let me tell you what Israel. So I go to Israel 2017, right? Yeah. Me and a bunch of my people, we go to a restaurant now. You know, I'm six Five. I think the brother that was with me, he was probably like six' six. I think he's slightly taller than me. Two other brothers and two women, they

[A]

treated you very well.

[B]

No, they thought you were going to the restaurant. We go into a restaurant, they're playing regular music as we go into that restaurant, and we sit down and eat. All of a sudden, Tupac starts playing.

[A]

Hey, they were greeting you.

[B]

But they were agreeing. But they.

[A]

They could tell.

[B]

No, but wait, listen. But they could.

[A]

They did.

[B]

You could tell. They just Googled because they played Brenda's Got a Baby. Now, I don't expect you to know that song, but Brenda's Got a Baby is one of the most depressing. It's about a woman that had a baby in the trash. And that's the. So, like, they didn't play, like, a upbeat Tupac song. It sound like they said, oh, we got these black guys in here. What can we play? I know you, Tupac. And the first song popped up was Brenda's Got a Baby. And my name's Tazarak.

[A]

Tzaria.

[B]

Tzarak.

[A]

Tzariak.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tzariak. I think you're walking around with a chip on your shoulder. Have none. And I'll tell you why.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Because you are so dedicated to figure out who your ancestors were. Because you feel lost. But the end of the day, you are who you are.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You don't need all of this.

[B]

One of that, like, you talking to my soul moments is that I don't

[A]

need anybody in my ancestors to know who I am.

[B]

Right? Right.

[A]

I was dealt the cards that I was dealt today. Whether you take away my Judaism, you take away my color, take away my body. Me, not Ben, not King Azuli. That's just a name. There are two words. They're called names. Who am I Internally? I know who I am. So I don't hold myself to anything. I don't tie myself to nothing. That's why, for example, I don't have a problem with Arabs. I don't have a problem with Muslims. I don't have a problem with blacks. I like everybody. Why? Because I figured we're just brainwashed. What do I care? 5,000 years ago, who did the brainwashing, do you think? The people that are controlling the world. And they're probably not even people. Yeah. They're probably greater than us. They must be smarter than us. And if you're telling me it's my

[B]

people, the Jews, I'm just asking you

[A]

because it's funny, because people are like, Jews control the world.

[B]

No, no, I'm just asking you who did the brainwashing?

[A]

So people are saying Jews control the world, which means Jews possibly brainwashed everybody. But you really think that humans manage to do all of this? I doubt it.

[B]

Okay, so before I get to that, when I speak. Well, first of all, I'm a free man. Like, how you say you a free man?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I'm not one that is holding on to ancestry in a sense that it's like a chip on my soldier. That's what they did. I'm just telling a story. What. That's the story. That's what they played. But don't distract though. So when, when, when, when you bring up the history and lost and all that stuff. At one point I was just like anybody would say that I didn't know who I was. I need to get my identity, a search and find myself.

[A]

Until three years ago, I didn't know who I was.

[B]

And how old are you?

[A]

I thought I did.

[B]

Right. How old are you?

[A]

36 now.

[B]

Right. So for 33 years you was lost. Right?

[A]

I found myself around 32 to 33.

[B]

You know, it's crazy. Like, that's about the same age for me too. Right. So I'm not a. You're not dealing with like a lost person as a chip on his shoulder. But for somebody that looks at the despair of my people, I don't speak anecdotally. That's why you notice I keep saying we. I'm always generalizing because I'm not talking about myself, because I don't have a worry like that. I don't have a fear like that. But when you speak about. Excuse me, when I speak about my people, my people are not afforded the opportunity to hide their melanin or their skin tone or anything. Even though you have that dark skin that you probably got a tan or something like that.

[A]

No, it's just me with being away from the sun. If I'm in the sun, I'm looking at you because I become way darker than any.

[B]

It's cap. I don't believe it. Send me a picture, then I'll believe it. So now we can't hide that. And so because we can't hide that. Like, I'll use a historical example, the Spanish Inquisition, right? In the Spanish Inquisition, when the Christians start coming and attacking the Sephardic Jews in that region, as the Sephardic Jews start converting to being Christians, start hiding their Jewishness, they still have the same melanin as the Spaniards, so they can blend In. But the Sephardic Jews that look like me are darker, could not. So they still would be marked. So there is no hit. There is no hitting. And you can. And you can expand it off of the Spanish Inquisition. When the Irish came over here, when the Italians came over here, they were criminals. They were not welcome. But they have that white skin. So once they convert to white, everything is all right. But for black people, the reason why I said we believe in equality more than any other race, because there's nobody that loves whiteness more than black people.

[A]

You guys call it white supremacy, not the white.

[B]

Well, I didn't get to the white supremacy part, but there's nobody that loves whiteness more than black people. We have built this country. We fought and die in their wars. We vote, we do everything we love unconditionally. Black people love white people unconditionally no matter what. But we have never gotten.

[A]

The crime is black on black, not black on white.

[B]

That's cap. There's no such thing as black on black crime. But we can address that in a second. That is a myth. So now. But nobody loves America more than us. But we don't reap any of the benefits that the Italians did because they were criminals too. That the Irish did because they was criminals too. As a matter of fact, Irish came over here as servants and they had to work for seven years after that. Seven years that servitude was over. The reason why ours is chatter slavery, because we had to work beyond the seven years so we can't hide the melanin that we have. One point I want to point out. Is there such thing as white on white crime?

[A]

But I want to wait before you.

[B]

Can you just answer that for me?

[A]

I'll. I'll tell you. Of course there's white on white. There's Jew and Jew.

[B]

Wait, no, no. Okay, let me say it different.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is majority of the killing that is done in the black community is on other black.

[B]

Okay. The majority of the killing done in your community.

[A]

Wait, wait. Sad to me.

[B]

The majority of the killing done in your community. You got your own people too. The majority of the killing of white people is by white people. The majority of the killing of Chinese people is by Chinese people. The majority.

[A]

Let me share. Let me show you why. 10 seconds, I'll share with you.

[B]

Why 10 seconds?

[A]

Because you're talking.

[B]

Let him finish. 10 seconds.

[A]

10 seconds.

[B]

The majority of crime, period, it's by the same race of people. Because it's in your area. So Just like there's no such thing as white on white crime. There's no such thing as black on. Nobody's committing a crime against a. A black person is not committing a crime against a black person because they're black.

[A]

Now since you said that you're not being accepted here by the white people, that means that you're not free from here. So the blacks that are here, what the hell, right? You just said that.

[B]

But not your breakdown is what I'm saying. What the hell too. That didn't make sense.

[A]

No, like you're saying blacks are not from here, right?

[B]

No, that's it.

[A]

Somehow now are in here, but they're not getting benefits. That should.

[B]

On my shirt it says listening is an art.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I would suggest you start doing it.

[A]

Okay. All right. When you go to Israel, were the fake Jews in your opinion? Not the real Jews? They're not the, the semis. The fake Jews.

[B]

Man, you listen. There's some good stuff.

[A]

Sometimes when they're. When there is killing there majority of the killing there is Arabs on Jews on Israelis. Now there's Arab Israelis because they were raised in Israel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they're Israel.

[B]

But I blame the Israelis for that.

[A]

That's a whole nother topic.

[B]

Yeah, the Palestinians welcomed them Israelis with open arms in the early 40s.

[A]

By the way, a lot of Palestinians live in Israel today. With Israelis there's no issues.

[B]

That's. That's why I said I blame. I blame the Israelis. Do you know there's videos when them

[A]

Israel got pushed out to Gaza.

[B]

Who?

[A]

The ones that were coming and killing Jews that arrived slowly, slowly they were pushed out until we left them in Gaza. And the rest that didn't want to kill us are living amongst us. There's 2 million of them. For you everything is cap. What kind of debate is this? This is cop. That is cop, my friend. Everything cup.

[B]

No things you say that, that I do it.

[A]

Speak Hebrew.

[B]

No, I'm not an expert. No, no. And my. He. My type of Hebrew is different than your type of Hebrew.

[A]

Ah, no, no.

[B]

Cuz you speak. You would speak more modern Hebrew. We would speak. That's why I said our name is like Yahweh. We speak with like Aramaic. Yes, that, that, that would be the best way for you to understand it, right?

[A]

Look, in Israel we have 2 million Arabs. Many of them are Palestinians that live amongst us.

[B]

Now you isn't any left cuz Netanyahu bombing the out of there.

[A]

No, this is Gaza. In Israel there's 2 million of them living with us. Muslims, by the way. Yeah.

[B]

You know, when I have Israel, you

[A]

know, some of them are my friends.

[B]

Uhuh.

[A]

So I know you're saying it's cap, but what I have to show you, me and my friend, that's Palestinian, that's standing together hugging in Israel.

[B]

It's still anecdotal, though.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

But that's an anecdotal. I would never argue. I'm never going to argue your anecdotal experience.

[A]

Now, since you went there, we realized to Israel, we realized that Israel accepts everybody.

[B]

No, let me tell you. You know, they held me in the dance when I got off the plane. When I got off the plane, me and my wife get off the plane. They held me for like three hours because of my middle name, you know,

[A]

they held me for two.

[B]

Why they held you?

[A]

And I have an Israeli passport.

[B]

Yeah. I got.

[A]

Because with our beard, we look like toys.

[B]

You know what it was? It was my middle name.

[A]

And he's six' five and he's got too much melanin and a Jewish star like this. And then he tells. It's not even Jew.

[B]

They give.

[A]

You're not a Jew. I am the Jew. There's no such thing as Jewish. So they were confused. So they.

[B]

It was my middle name.

[A]

They wanted to get educated.

[B]

No, it was my middle name. They said. They was like, what is your middle name? My middle name is Rashan. And so I guess I don't know if that's Muslim or something like that. Yeah, that's. That's Compton. They was like, what? No, it's not.

[A]

It's Compton. I got my boy from Thomton.

[B]

That's not Muslim. No, this guy.

[A]

Why did you bring me this guy to the. I like him.

[B]

So my middle name was Rashan. And they was like, you know, where did you get this middle name from? I said, I don't know. My uncle gave me the name. And so then they eventually, you know, let me through. I actually met. I met these black people that they kept them in the prison section of Israel. They have never left Israel since 70 AD. Like, they've always been there. But when Europe. Now, I won't say your people, but when Ashkenazis came in there, they pushed them.

[A]

You call them Amalek?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know who is Amalek?

[B]

Right? That's the chief tribe of Edom because they're Edomites. Like white people are Edomites. No, no, Amalek comes from. Amalek is the one of the Dukes of Eden.

[A]

It came from. Ishmael no, he didn't.

[B]

Maybe Ishmael has a son or somebody named Amalek. But I could pull the.

[A]

Came from Abraham. Do you at least agree on that?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But now, when Abraham. Excuse me. When God told Abraham, in Isaac shall thy seed be called, then Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau. So really, it's only Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. All the rest are bastards.

[A]

Bastards because it's out of marriage?

[B]

No, bastards because God separated the fleshly sons from Abraham. So the only son that God said Abraham had is the one from the promise.

[A]

You know what I love about Bible stories? What? You love that they are the greatest stories ever told. They're not the greatest.

[B]

The Bible is the greatest book and ever written because it's inspired by God.

[A]

I love the stories. There's a lot of common sense. There's a lot of great things in there, but I don't live by it. It's not who we are, but what we.

[B]

So we shouldn't have had. Judaism shouldn't have been the topic because you don't live by it.

[A]

You now, now. I put on my tefilling in the morning.

[B]

Your who?

[A]

My tefilling. You don't know what's tefilling? You know the black box, Saturn.

[B]

A black box is a woman for me.

[A]

You know the black. Why? Because she's 5 foot 5, 185 pounds.

[B]

No, I've seen 185 pounds. That black woman is bad as the best woman on the planet.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

Black women?

[A]

No, it's. Who was that? Myron Gaines. Made me laugh.

[B]

He's not black either.

[A]

He made me.

[B]

Myron's a. Myron is like, I can't

[A]

date a black woman. Blah, blah, blah, blah. On average from 185 pounds.

[B]

And yet his woman. I think he had a white woman. She left him a skateboarder, a roller skater. She did his ass. He's not black either.

[A]

He's not. He's a Muslim.

[B]

No, he's. Yeah, but he's a.

[A]

But he's got more melanin than.

[B]

He's not even a tether. He's a.

[A]

He's got more melanin than you.

[B]

Melanin. You know there's Africans that have melanin. We ain't African either. I don't like Africans either.

[A]

No, no, you like. Do you like this guy? He's Chinese.

[B]

He did his rank. So I like my people now, like,

[A]

when I'm saying, like, Israelites are there. Please.

[B]

Well, for. For us.

[A]

Lighten me okay.

[B]

So for us, the blacks, Latinos and Native Americans in North, Central and South America are the Israelites on this side of the hemisphere. And then of course, we're scattered in Europe, Africa and Asia. So the reason why I say things like I don't like Africans and stuff like that, because I know, like as you keep bringing up the melanin, most people assimilate us with.

[A]

I'm just joking.

[B]

I know, but I still could play off of it, so. But most of them assimilate us with Africans. They think we're the same. But we don't like Africans and Africans don't like us. Africans sold us. How can I like the people that sold us? They did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, a white man never came in the tribes and catch nobody.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

The Africans caught. No way. Wasn't black. It was Africans that caught us.

[A]

So who's considered black to you?

[B]

Because now I'm thus those of us over here. Because black is not a Black is

[A]

not a kill o' Neill considered black?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. You don't like him?

[B]

No. Yeah, I like. He's not African, Shaquille. Any one of us but Yanta Takupo is that he might read Yanta Takupo? Yeah. He not one of us.

[A]

He's not one of you?

[B]

No. Because he's a hamite or African.

[A]

John Jones.

[B]

No, he's black.

[A]

He's black.

[B]

You like John?

[A]

I love him.

[B]

Yeah, I like John Jones.

[A]

John Jones, the greatest of all times. Yeah.

[B]

I like Jon Jones. I like John. I like Rampage, too.

[A]

Rampage is cool.

[B]

Yeah, I like Rampage.

[A]

I met him in person multiple times. So, okay, so the ones that have been enslaved and sent here, they are the blacks, right? And then the ones in Africa are the Africans.

[B]

Right? But then there's some of us that you know.

[A]

That's why they sold you, because you weren't.

[B]

Because we were them, right? We were different. You are you. You one of the smartest. I ain't going to call you white. I'm going to call you Moroccan. You are one of the smartest Moroccans I've met. Because you can understand. Because most people look at it like Africans gathered up Africans. But it's tribal wars, so we was a different tribe than them. So when the Europeans looked for slaves, they caught us because we was already on their land. Because we migrated in 70 AD into Africa. Just like there's tribal wars today.

[A]

Because I wouldn't send my brother off to go get enslaved.

[B]

Right. Well, you know, Israel do some wild in the Bible, though.

[A]

I'm Talking about me and my brother. I mean, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

[B]

How many brothers you got?

[A]

I got one brother. Okay. But we have a very big team now.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

A lot of. A lot of. I'm mainly on social media to guide the youth to a better place where you got into. To just a better, stronger place.

[B]

Like what, Judaism or.

[A]

No, no, no, no. You pick whatever you want to be.

[B]

So you could be anything.

[A]

I don't want.

[B]

So you're not a real. So you're not a real Jew then.

[A]

Why not?

[B]

Because like in the Bible we can't have like could, could. Let's say if they went to Islam,

[A]

Jews, if you are black, marry black. It's going to.

[B]

But what about belief? Let's say, let's say cuz we started at interracial, right?

[A]

Marriages and stuff.

[B]

But I think we agree with that though. It sound like we agree you should

[A]

marry the same kind.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Cuz if you really think about it, if all of you guys, they're blacks now you marry a white woman.

[B]

Don't, don't, don't do that. Say, say he point to an imaginary person and say, okay, he marries a white woman. There you go.

[A]

Are you married? Is that why?

[B]

No, no, no. I got wives. So it's different.

[A]

Many.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, you gotta teach me that.

[B]

How? You don't know how to do that. You a king, he a king and don't know how to do it.

[A]

You know, you meet a Latina, she's like, I want you for me. You know, I'm Latina, I'm sp. Spicy.

[B]

You can't be with a Latino man. You gotta get you a Moroccan woman or something.

[A]

My dad, my, my dad is with a Moroccan woman. But you're not gonna like her cuz she's Muslim.

[B]

No, that's fine for you. Y' all get with whatever Moroccan y' all want to get with. Just don't get with that Latina woman. Leave her alone.

[A]

Yeah, see, don't let you walk. She let you walk to pee. But not for longer.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

So I'm saying if right now you have a black woman marrying a white guy and a black man marrying a white woman, eventually there won't be any more black people. And something that I've learned within the years, that there's nothing more beautiful than seeing different cultures. If we were all the same, I wouldn't appreciate. Because when I go to Turkey, I enjoy the Turkish culture. When I go to China, I enjoy the Chinese culture. Or Korea or Thailand or Israel or Dubai, right? I love the culture.

[B]

Right. You don't want to see him white. I don't want everybody wiped out.

[A]

Wiped out issues.

[B]

I think the white man and white woman, they have their culture. They should be together, experience what their

[A]

culture is and then they understand each other their best.

[B]

That, that, that's. That's what I was saying earlier when

[A]

a black white woman and she kidnapped him from me. And for five years I've been trying to.

[B]

You regretted that, didn't you? You should have got with a Moroccan.

[A]

She told me that she was on birth control. Then three weeks after I met her, she got pregnant. Then she said it was.

[B]

There's a lot of people do that type of shit. And a lot of women. A lot of women. Was you like celebrity back then when she tricked you?

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

But I was just. Your dad didn't put you on game?

[A]

No, I didn't speak to my father at that time.

[B]

I bet you wish you had. Cause he'd have put you on game like don't let these women trick you. And you needed a better.

[A]

My father was.

[B]

Well, you was probably a rebellious son. You was a rebellious son.

[A]

My dad beat the out of me growing up. All dads to a rebel at some point, you know.

[B]

Yeah, all dads do.

[A]

Oh, my dad was.

[B]

Do you feel like. Do you feel like now? Although your dad punish it. You said what?

[A]

I. I thank him now.

[B]

That's what I was about to ask you. So when we're young we don't understand like my dad was a punisher to me. And we don't never understand it when we're young going through the punishment. But then when we get older, we get the experience of why he did it.

[A]

I say yeah, fathers like ours have been extinct.

[B]

Yeah, that's why you can't even discipline your kids. Like are you. Do you. Are you. Do you see your son?

[A]

No. Five years, I haven't seen him. The courts were against me.

[B]

You know a great picture I saw one time. It was Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right. And so is here, I guess he's. He was divorced from his wife. And then they showed the son that was raised by him and they showed the son raised by the mother. The son raised by him was. Was nice and shave the son raised by the mother fat, sloppy as shit.

[A]

And by the way, that son that is fit is actually the son from the maid that he cheated on his wife with. There was a maid living there.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Yeah, he cheated on her.

[B]

You know how bad she had to be as a wife that's that's diabolical. He just sleeping with the maid. It's the maid.

[A]

Pretty crazy, huh?

[B]

That means she wasn't available. And this is Arnold Schwarzenegger 1. All you got to do is have sex with your man, right? That's all you got to do.

[A]

Like a Greek God.

[B]

It looked like a Greek God. You crack back in the day, you crack me up a little bit. But the one I want, greatest of

[A]

all times, what I want to end with bodybuilding.

[B]

What I want to end with is interracial. No, no, not necessarily end, but on the part where you was talking about them experiences is important. What I was saying earlier, like if a black man or black woman goes through something and they're with a white or any other, it don't have to just be white. How can they ever understand that? You're not going to understand the social engineering that's been done to black people, the history of black people. No more than I wouldn't understand whatever a Moroccan woman went through. And so, and when you now, when you tie it into the Bible, you also have the religions. So if a black person marries a white woman and they got that white woman comes with her religion, and now he got his belief. Now you're marrying and mixing the two. And God said, we can't do that. You have to obey God and God only. So I can't be with a Muslim woman, a Christian woman, a Buddhist woman. They have to believe what I believe.

[A]

And you believe in the Old Testament, the New Testament, every Testament, yes. You think God made a mistake?

[B]

No.

[A]

He gave you the first five books. Does he need to give you another 26?

[B]

Why you say that?

[A]

Do you think he made a mistake?

[B]

No, but what, what you look at with anybody's culture, right, when you say first five books, you know, Israel existed before those books are written down. It's Moses that gave us the first five books. So he gives us what? He gives us the history. Yep. And he gives us the history of Israel. Yep. And so as he gives us books, so as he gives us the history of Israel, Israel didn't stop existing. Israel kept existing. So then there was a history after Moses. That's why you got Joshua, Judges, there's a history with Isaiah, there's a history with Ezekiel, there's a history with the Maccabees, there's a history with Christ. So all that is just history.

[A]

All that history, history, history, that's all his story.

[B]

Everything is his story.

[A]

Don't you know what I mean?

[B]

Don't try to be Blacky black. I, I tell black history. The Muslims talk about the tell I vision. Don't watch the tell I vision cuz it tell the lies of the vision. Look, you know what I mean?

[A]

But you have, you have to be.

[B]

I separate the history from the Bible

[A]

because I'll tell you I like you. I like you.

[B]

Pause.

[A]

Why? Why I like you.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Because you have your ways and you stand behind your ways. And I love that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I wish more people had their own values, their own real beliefs. Too many people are challenged today with not knowing really who they are.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And what's nice is that you believe that you know who you are. Even if I tell you that you're not who you are.

[B]

Yeah. It won't offend. And I think that's important what you're saying because it helps you be able to have conversations in any environment.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But if you unsure about it, somebody can come and bring some information to you on your unsureness or make you uncomfortable.

[A]

Today I could ask somebody what time were you born? What day were you born? What's your sign? They don't know. They don't know anything.

[B]

Were even horoscopes too.

[A]

Of course. Jesus, of course. I'm what they call half man, half God.

[B]

Well, I can't even say that to you.

[A]

It's the truth. Some say I'm the Messiah, some say I'm the Jesus Christ you anointed to do what?

[B]

What you anointed to do.

[A]

I'm here to help people achieve a better.

[B]

How you doing with it?

[A]

Pretty well. Not that bad. I got to tell you, lately they getting a lot, a lot of people saying that they changed your life forever but fast. There's so many problems. So let's start from the fact that like I said, everybody's brainwashed. Most people don't know who they are.

[B]

Right. And who we say was brainwashing. Who we say was doing the brainwashing.

[A]

Who was doing the brainwash? The Jews or the Jewish? I think thou cannot see the farther.

[B]

Well if you go with Elon Musk, the Jewish man is peak white. And then you got the regular white. All white. It's all white.

[A]

So God created humans within stages. At first he made a group of humans that were not as smart as he would want them to be. Then he said let me upgrade it. Create a more improved model, made them a little bit smarter.

[B]

Then he said this sound like the movie Mentals the Eternals.

[A]

How do you, how do you explain the fact that every race, every nationality has different IQs not as smart as the others. More.

[B]

I think. I think that mankind, if we just talk in mankind perspective. I think you can make a case that they were smarter back then than they are today.

[A]

You know why? Because they didn't speak. They didn't use the language they spoke.

[B]

I don't know, maybe they didn't have as much.

[A]

They spoke telepathically.

[B]

They might.

[A]

You been to a place and felt like someone is watching you. And then you look back and you could see he's looking at you and you're like, I felt that. Or sometimes you feel like somebody. Like you're thinking maybe about your mother, somebody. And they call you and you're like, I was just thinking about you. It's because we could speak telepathically. We didn't have a language.

[B]

What am I saying now?

[A]

We didn't have a language. We became dumber once we started speaking.

[B]

I don't know if he became dumber once he started speaking, but I think the goals is different. So when I say more intelligent, like they still can't understand how they built the pyramids.

[A]

I was. I was just about to say. You were thinking that. I was just about to say.

[B]

Look at that. That's tell. That's telepathic.

[A]

Telepathic, right there we. You see, I was just about to tell him. The pyramids. How do you see the pyramids were built?

[B]

Nobody could. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

You think it was a big crane? No.

[B]

Well, they started off as ziggurats, a little small, broken down. And then they was able to get the symmetry right.

[A]

I'm strong, all that. But I can't build those.

[B]

No. Because I can't lift that. Right. So. But our base nature is very animalistic and we're more animal. And that's the problem with us today. We're more in our base nature than we are in whatever intelligence. Because they still did things like worship stupid things. They worshiped the cow, they worship alligators. They, you know, homosexuality was existing and rampant back then too, but they weren't as base in nature as we are today.

[A]

But that's why Muslims, for example, ban homosexuality. And they kill anybody.

[B]

They don't ban on little girls though.

[A]

We're talking about homosexuality. Hold on.

[B]

Okay, my bad.

[A]

Quick for me, man. You're too quick.

[B]

Slow down one thing.

[A]

I'm gonna slow down one thing at a time.

[B]

I wanna slow down.

[A]

So it's actually horrifying because in my opinion, you could do whatever you want, right? Like, I'm not gonna kill you just because you do something. But yeah, preference. I don't care. I've always said I love gay guys. You know why? More women for me. I'm good with that. I don't care. Do what you want to do. Keep it away from the children. Don't come and teach it to the kids. Yeah, keep that away from us. But do whatever you want in the bedroom. I don't care. You get in the.

[B]

And I would just want to add, be upfront about it. I don't like them down low.

[A]

Do what?

[B]

Like, I don't agree with gay at all. I'm saying is don't hide it. Like, you know, I like. They'll hide their homosexuality. Like the priest in the closet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like the priests.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like them rabbis we was talking about.

[A]

No, but it's mostly priests. I'll tell you why. Because they're not allowed to have a woman and then they get a little bit messed up. That's why. Rabbi has a wife and still touch kids. You don't hear it often.

[B]

He got a wife and still touch kids.

[A]

You don't hear it often. You will hear it once in a while. There is sickos 100% and I believe every single pedo should get the death penalty. If you ask me, there's some people online telling me that I'm some pedal blah, blah, blah, because I'm Israeli and I had a situation when I was 18 years old on my birthday and

[B]

they're like, oh, situation, man.

[A]

I had a party at my house on my 18th birthday, right? Girls came over. Three girls wanted to take care of me down there. One ended up being underage.

[B]

And you didn't know?

[A]

I didn't know. She said she.

[B]

You telling the truth?

[A]

100%? Yeah. No, I didn't know. But I was 18, she was almost 16. Things happen. So I went to jail for 30 days for all copulation with a minor. So people made it seem like it happened today. Today I'm 36 years old, it happened on my 18th birthday. Shit happens. I'm not going to sit there and ask people for IDs the other way.

[B]

Can you fault them though for calling you? With what were they calling you, Pete? I'm not talking about back then. Can you fault them when they find that out?

[A]

Well, no, when they came, the police came to the house.

[B]

Even now, can you fault somebody for calling you that?

[A]

Can I fault. What do you mean?

[B]

Meaning you don't want. You're saying that that happened. You was 18, you're 36 now. So that's about 18 years ago.

[A]

18 years, right.

[B]

So when someone finds that out, can you fault them for being suspicious about you? Like, or should they just accept your story? And the reason why I say that is because as much as we see about children getting taken advantage of, teenagers getting taken advantage of, should it be something where you gotta take yourself outside of yourself for that is why I'm asking you, if you heard that story, the same story, would you be so willing to believe it or would you be suspicious?

[A]

But that's what the charge was. Oral calculation.

[B]

No, no, no. But you don't want nobody to fault you for it now is what I'm saying. So that means you would want me to accept if you did, if you

[A]

did something when you're 18 years old with a 15 year old girl. In my opinion, that's two and a half years difference.

[B]

But is that because you have that on your jacket?

[A]

No, no. Because if you go today to other places around the world, the age of consent is different everywhere.

[B]

And Islam is nine.

[A]

So I think, is it as Muhammad

[B]

did, Aisha at nine?

[A]

Yeah, but he married her at six.

[B]

That's even worse. So is it six or nine? Six 69. God.

[A]

You married him? I, I had a debate with a Muslim and, and again, there's a lot,

[B]

Listen, I debated Sheikh Uman in this, at this very table. He got mad at me when I brought that up.

[A]

There's a lot of great Muslim out there, but it's not because they're not following exactly what Muhammad was like.

[B]

But now, but shouldn't that come into question? Like if you look at the credibility

[A]

of a person born into it, that's the problem.

[B]

I get it. I was born into Christianity. My grandfather was a pastor. My mother took me to church, forced me to go to church till I was 16.

[A]

Until what age was your dad next to you?

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Their father, was he around until now?

[B]

My father passed away in, I think 0607. But he was in and out of, he was in and out.

[A]

My father, he was at home.

[B]

Yeah, but he grew up his, it was his father that was the pastor. Yeah. So I grew up Christian on my mother's side and father's side. And it wasn't until I got older that I, you know, I started seeing the lies of it when I was young and then I stepped away from it when I got older. So you could be born into anything. That's not an excuse to stay in it. Once you get into a level of intelligence, of understanding a lot to Say.

[A]

Oh, say it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know, it's like something that I would. I prefer to say behind closed doors because I.

[B]

Is it about me?

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

Okay. You say what you want.

[A]

I don't have anything against you.

[B]

Yeah, me neither.

[A]

I actually think you're a great guy.

[B]

Thank you, man. You are. You ain't bad yourself. I didn't stick your hand twice.

[A]

He doesn't do that off you. I think you're a great guy. It's the problem because people don't want to agree to disagree. And that's the problem that we have today. And also we have another problem that back in the day people were not so informed and they would say, you know, I'm not so informed. I can't say anything on that part. And then people are just like, just to get the views, just to say something right. They rather say something right.

[B]

And I think you just. I think you could say something viral without going crazy on the opponent. Unless you did something to me or I did something to you, then that's different. But if we sitting here as two men just having a conversation, I don't need to say nothing overly over off the top to you.

[A]

No, but what I wanted to say though is that humans need a religion today more than ever.

[B]

They should get up under us. You know, the Bible says, whatever religion

[A]

it is, I say, yeah, humans need religion.

[B]

You know, I'll tell you, let you

[A]

finish, I'll tell you why. Let me share why. Just so.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And you could share your part too. But I see that when people are godly people, whether they call their God, Jesus, Buddha, Allah, whatever they call them, when they're godly humans, we see that they carry themselves differently. Women are more preserved, men are less violent, they cheat less. And when I say cheat, I want to talk also talking about stealing. You know, stealing from your neighbor, from your business partner, from your brother. All of those things are way better when people are more godly. The problem that we have is that it's almost like people have lost God. When God wanted to create fish, he spoke to the sea. When God wanted to create trees, he spoke to the land. When God wanted to create us, he spoke to himself. You take a fish out of the water, what happens to it?

[B]

It dies.

[A]

You take a tree out of soil, what happens to.

[B]

It dies.

[A]

You take God out of us, what happens? So I feel like as long as we have God inside of us, that is something that's going to help the human race. Because if right now there was an invasion, some aliens came to us. And I stood here with you. I'm going to stand by you. I'm not going to stand by them. I'm going to be here with you. You are now my brother. You can say whatever you want. You're my brother. You're coming with me and we're going to fight together.

[B]

I'm not fighting that alien.

[A]

Because the end of the day, if me and you walked in the forest right now, and we live in a town and in the forest we encounter a bear, right?

[B]

Yeah. I knew it was going to be a bear.

[A]

It was going to be a bear.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now I look at you and I start running and you tell me, why are you running? The bear could catch you. And I say, as long as he catches you first, I'm going to be saved. Although the only way to take down the bear is, is to work as a team. Because even though I ran away once, he ate you, he's coming for me. So we have to make sure we work together as a team. Same thing with the aliens. So we are the same, but because there is no aliens and no bears in here, then we are acting as we're different.

[B]

Can I respond? Yes, thank you. Said a lot. I do agree with that we are not godly, but that we need to be more godly. And the Bible, it says, when the righteous are in authority, the world rejoice. When the wicked are in authority, the people mourn. The reason why I say y' all need to all be up under us is because we are the most compassionate people on the planet. Just how we are compassionate to every, everybody when something happens, we are compassionate. We can judge. We're also the most moral. I'm not now all nations are wicked, so I'm only talking about levels of morality. So we'll. We'll be openly against homosexuality, we're openly against pedophilia, we're open against the thievery and stuff like that, because we have that inherently in our spirit. So when the children of Israel wake up and we're ruling, you're going to say thank you. That you're going to be under us. It's going to be a great day. The reason why I'm not going to fight the aliens, because the aliens. I'm using the word alien because that's what most people know. But for me, the aliens is Christ and God, when he returns and passes judgment on this place. So the reason why I said I wouldn't join you against that alien, because I'm waiting for him to come and this world up. That's what I'm waiting for. Because that's what's prophesied.

[A]

So you. You actually think exactly like us.

[B]

Like, you think I. Oh, you talking about as far as the turn is

[A]

my people and your people.

[B]

Well, y' all took the book and read it and copied it. Y' all not biting off us.

[A]

Let's say that's what we did. Yeah, but now we think like you.

[B]

Yeah, but y' all need to be under us. That's what I'm saying. When. The world will be a better place when you're under. But let me.

[A]

I saw the video of that white boy kissing your shoe. Yeah, that was hilarious.

[B]

Yeah, they kissed the boots. Yes.

[A]

Damn. I need a boot like that.

[B]

I need that boot. So I need that boot. The other part, when you talked about the bear, I remember I was talking to this. I was talking to this white supremacist guy, and he gave. I knew. And when you said bear, the reason why I said. I knew he was going to say say bear because the white supremacist said bear, too. And he was like, if we're. And he didn't use forest, though. He was like, if we're locked in this cage and the bear is in the cage, shouldn't we at least join to beat the bear? And I say, you want me to join? But as we're fighting that bear, you're going to make sure that that bear breaks. Chews my leg off before we beat the bear. That way, when we beat the bear, you got two full legs, two arms, and a brain. And I'm left handicapped. So that way you can be back on top. I would have to always watch my

[A]

back with lack of trust and lack of faith.

[B]

Well, history. Wait, before you say that I don't

[A]

mind dying right now on. On this table.

[B]

No, no, but think about what you said with lack of trust and lack of faith. Would you agree that the history that we have. My people have in America, we have every right to have a lack of trust and lack of faith in this system?

[A]

100%.

[B]

Thank you. That's why I agree with you. Right.

[A]

I used to hate black people because when I was 13, I got jumped by, like 30 of them. They beat the living out of. Where was you living at Calabasas? Well, I lived in North Hollywood, but I went to a party in Calabasas. They broke the living out of me. I was like, what the. Like, how do you jump on one kid? One kid. I'm 13.

[B]

Beat the.

[A]

Out of me. Then I Had one of my closest friends was a black guy. Then I caught him stealing my phone. And then I was like, I'm done with black people. And then three years ago, something happened. Happened.

[B]

What happened?

[A]

And almost like, I understood, I started to see souls, not colors, not where you're from. Matter of fact, I was best friends growing up. The only black friend that I had after that was Dr. Dre's son, little Andre. And he overdosed and died when I was 16. And that's why I was like, okay, this is what it is. Continue. Became more friends with my people, Israelis. But three years ago, something has changed.

[B]

And you trust them.

[A]

Three years ago, something has changed. I'll tell you. I trust God. It's very hard for me to trust humans, but I give the benefit of the doubt, or else I'm going to be looking back and forth, back and forth. What am I going to do? How am I going to live my life? If God wants to take you, he doesn't knock on the door. He doesn't send you a letter. He doesn't. He comes and takes you. He doesn't surprise you. That's it, done, you're gone. So I'm just living my life. Whether he's going to take me on the plane, in the car, in the bathroom, while I'm. Wherever he takes me, he takes me. But I've realized three years ago that everyone are the same. And you have to learn how to speak to the soul and not look at black, white. Because whites didn't like me either. Not look at that. Just speak to the soul. When I started to smile at the world and accept everyone as souls, the world started smiling back at me. And it was like the most beautiful thing that happened to me. Because today I could sit with a black guy. I don't see a black guy. I see a guy. I see a man. A man that I know that could stand with me. So I don't have lack of faith or lack of trust, but I see that it's something that is very highly up there today with humans, is that they don't trust also women and men. That's why they don't get along. That's why there's less relationships. That's why humans are going extinct. We're going backwards. There's not enough.

[B]

No white people going extinct. We.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Right here? Yeah.

[A]

I don't know you. You're doing well. How many children you have?

[B]

Six.

[A]

God bless them. It's not enough. You need more. Oh, man, you need more.

[B]

I Don't want no more kids. Not having no more kids.

[A]

12 children now.

[B]

How many you got?

[A]

I have one son that I don't get to see. I want to have another 12. The 12 tribes.

[B]

Lord, Lord. You should have 13, cuz they all the 13 tribe.

[A]

Well, I have my other son.

[B]

Yeah, but when you. What you waiting on to start? You 36?

[A]

I'm 36.

[B]

I'm pretty sure you're having sex, right?

[A]

No, not at the moment of we're

[B]

in the table, in the room.

[A]

You know semen retention for the last four months.

[B]

Because you're training.

[A]

No, no, because you know semen retention.

[B]

You're gonna mess up your testicles. Don't let nobody convince you that semen retention is the way to go.

[A]

No, I trained in China with the Shaolin monks. They don't ever not. And they're the strongest humans on the planet.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

And they live till 130. 140 shaolin monks, crazy powerful. Break me and you in half. Make us into tortilla. You're gonna be guacamole, big guacamole bowl. But what I want you to know is that I really want to start now. And the women that I am speaking to today. I was with a woman for a long time. She didn't really want to have many children. Said, I'll give you two. I never wanted children. I'll give you two. I said, you know what? Let's separate, stay friends. We're friends.

[B]

Because she only wants to give you two.

[A]

Only two.

[B]

What you should do is get two from her and then get you another woman and get the other three or four from her. I presented it, she didn't want to do it. So and so you believe that you can just get rid of her?

[A]

No, I said let's stay friends. I didn't get rid of her. Okay, I said, would you.

[B]

But can she go be with another man?

[A]

Yeah, we separated. That's it.

[B]

But that would be adultery. Then at that point, if she sleep with another man, you can't sleep with her.

[A]

No, I can't sleep with her. We separated. That's it. That's crazy. It's done. Well, just because I slept with her doesn't mean that now she's stuck, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you stuck with. But that's your woman. Sex is marriage in the Bible.

[A]

I agree with you.

[B]

How you say that's not your wife then?

[A]

I wish, I wish, I wish. Look, I'm looking today for a virgin. I even spoke.

[B]

No, I ain't talking about A virgin. If you know sex is marriage, why did you get rid of her?

[A]

Because of the fact that today it isn't marriage for people. Today people do it.

[B]

I ain't talking about for people, for. You sound like you do it for fun too, though.

[A]

No. I wanted 12 children from her. She didn't want to have them. I'm not going to force anybody and I'm also not going to go and cheat. I don't cheat.

[B]

I don't cheat either. I don't cheat.

[A]

I say I want that, I want that. I don't cheat. I think men that cheat are pussies.

[B]

What if you upfront. What if you tell the truth? That was. I was going to say, what if you just tell the truth?

[A]

I told her the truth. She said, I don't accept it. So I said, let's stay friends. Thank you very much. Continue life. The woman I'm going to be with next is going to be my wife forever. Going to have 12 children. So I met a few women talking to them. They really are.

[B]

Get them young, they push out 12. They can't.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, she's. I have them between right now 21 to 24. I don't speak to them.

[B]

That's a good age. If you're gonna have 12 kids. That's a good age.

[A]

Yeah. Over 24. I don't speak to them the way I mean, I spoke to them just so I could have something to talk on the podcast. I have some interesting information from these 30 year olds. 30, 35 to 40, interesting information.

[B]

Listen, because of your goal, I understand why you don't want them old, but you can't really go off on the old women just because they old.

[A]

You know, I'm not going off on them. I actually think they're more beautiful and sexier than younger women.

[B]

Like that's why I said you're going a woman. Right.

[A]

But the problem is, is I want to have 12 children. That's one, two. I want her to be with as least amount of partners as could be.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And these ones have all either are virgins or been with one person at most.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'll even want to go to lie detector test. They're like, I swear to God, I'll go to lie detector test.

[B]

Are you gonna make them do all that?

[A]

I'm like, no, no. But the fact that she said it made me believe it. Like, honey, you know you said it. I like.

[B]

That's a good little test.

[A]

I like it.

[B]

Good.

[A]

So, but the problem is, is that when you speak to a 30 to a 35 year old woman, she no longer thinks like a young woman. She's been through more trauma, she's been through more headaches. She probably has a job. And in that time frame that she's been alone, she's been with 20 men. She's also turned a lot more masculine. Like we said, I'm not gay.

[B]

No, no, no, I agree with that. I agree with that. Like fertile.

[A]

I want femininity. I don't want.

[B]

You would have to break her.

[A]

The vaccine and the time that it

[B]

would take to break her for your goals of wanting all them kids. A woman at age wouldn't fit what you're looking for. So I get why you're looking for the age that you're looking for, but you're going to have a different. It's a different learning curve with that age, though, because everything is education. You're gonna have to train that woman whether she's older or young. You're still gonna have to train her. Train they. Don't be afraid. No, no, no. You can say you train them in real life. Don't be afraid.

[A]

I mentor them for free.

[B]

That's another word for training.

[A]

I mentor them.

[B]

I instruct.

[A]

Is that better?

[B]

Instruct them. There you go. You're gonna have to instruct them whether

[A]

they're 21 or whether I'm already the most hated man on the planet. Next thing you know.

[B]

Yeah, I heard you on that podcast talk about you training.

[A]

No.

[B]

But then they come to you for guidance. Like most women. The most independent woman is probably the weakest woman because her independence is based on her education or her job. It's not based on her protection. It's not based on making the right choices outside of education and the job. She still needs a man to give her that guidance and instruction.

[A]

So here is what I look for. A woman that hasn't left the house, so she hasn't went live on her own. The women I'm speaking to, they still live at home.

[B]

At home.

[A]

Okay. All right, number two, her parents must be together, not a broken family. And she must be in good relationships with her brothers and sisters. And the reason I say that. And if her sister is like past 25, she can't be single. And the reason I say that is because I want to go into a family and expand the family. Before that, I was dating women who don't have families. I was trying to save them. My ex, before my ex was six years older than me. I didn't mind an older woman, but I've realized today when he said, on a date with a woman that is 32, 33, she sits and looks at you. I know men like you. You think I have been around. I know what you're like.

[B]

You know, it's that immediately red flag, right?

[A]

And the worst thing is, is that now all of them, right? And I spoke to like 50 of them in the last like month and a half dance.

[B]

Are you searching hard, huh? Jesus.

[A]

I got a lot of them coming through the DMs. Put the private jet for the Rolls Royce. Believe me. Come, come take some pictures.

[B]

You'll have another bullshit, though.

[A]

But you know, you sit with them and all of a sudden, maybe because I am who I am, they're like, look, I've made some mistakes in my life. Now I want to wait until marriage. I'm like, wait, you're 32.

[B]

I actually hate that. Right.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

So now I gotta be the simp that got to give you this extravagant wedding where everybody else was getting their milk without the cow. Yeah.

[A]

I get punished for being as good looking as I am caramel, sexy, shredded, rich, famous, and I now have to suffer for that. What, you want me to wait till marriage?

[B]

So what she really saying is you have to pay for all the mistakes she made. That's what women don't realize when they say, like, if women want to really hustle. They would never say that to a man.

[A]

Never ever.

[B]

Because once you say that to a man, why would I pay for what everybody else did? Why am I going all out when this cat just bought you McDonald's and tear that ass up? Why would I do that?

[A]

Exactly. Clapped her cheeks.

[B]

Clapped him hard, had you screaming. He was probably sucking Rob. He was probably doing all manner of nonsense. Now I got to come, come and spend money on a wedding and all this stuff like that. Take you on a honeymoon. That's not gonna happen.

[A]

That's not gonna happen. So if she's not a virgin, I wouldn't marry her. That's number one.

[B]

So you're not gonna have no sex until that point?

[A]

Marriage? No, I don't need to.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

I've done it enough.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Now I need the right one. That's it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But how can I bring her into a holy place, a holy ground with Rabbi, whatever you want to call him in your language. Bring the chief, Chief Keith in there. Marry us.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

And you've been everywhere. I can't do that, so. And also Azulai in Hebrew, the abbreviation of it, A Z O U L A Y means A woman that is dirty and a I will not take. And it also came up in my bar mitzvah, in my parasha. So I have to be with a holy woman. It's stuck here in the brainwash.

[B]

And you think Jewish women are holy?

[A]

They brainwash the out of me.

[B]

Only a virgin. So you're only going to get a Jewish woman though, right?

[A]

Only Jewish woman.

[B]

That's right. Don't get no black woman.

[A]

You have a Jew Israelite for me?

[B]

No. Hell no. No.

[A]

Expand the tribe, my friend.

[B]

Exp.

[A]

Spend the tribe.

[B]

No, I, I listen, I'll, I'll point you to some nice Jewish women for you. That's what they was made for. You could have them all day.

[A]

You don't want me to go to black women? Nah, nah. Why?

[B]

I'll be mad as hell. The same thing we was talking about. You said a black man with a black woman. Remember earlier we saying a black man with a. Look at you trying to.

[A]

I agree though.

[B]

That mean you was lying. Was you lying earlier?

[A]

No, I'm just sassy. I'm testing to see if you accept. I want to see if you accept me as a black man.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Look, I think the blacks that live in the United States, one of my boys, he's black and I did a, a video with him that went very viral. I said it's not that people hate you, it's that they hate on you. You guys are tall, you guys are big, you guys are strong, you guys are fast. You guys have the most amazing voices. The way you articulate things. Different level intelligence. We can't. You must have some intelligence for that, right?

[B]

Way, way greater intelligence I always use like when they so called freed the slaves 30 years after that we built cities and colleges and hospitals and airstrips and banks in 30 years and that became a threat. So I hear you say they hate on you, but I think it's both because I think America is a country of competition. You know what I mean? And I mean everything is competition. Everything is about money. It's all you could say. It's a model business.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

It's soulless. Like whites. Rich whites don't care about poor whites. So, so when it comes to us and then seeing us as competition, they have to make sure I was born

[A]

here, you were born in the US

[B]

So they have to make sure that we are always at the bottom fighting

[A]

up everybody that's at the bottom. Because I could tell you when I sit with friends that are multi millionaire,

[B]

not Everybody, just us.

[A]

When I sit with people that are multi millionaires or even billionaires and they talk amongst each other and their friends, there is no racism. There is no. You're from here, you're from there.

[B]

Yeah. At that point you're right.

[A]

What deals can we make?

[B]

You know why? Because now at that point of money, they don't care about the race. Like you said, because now it's like, how do I either get more money or make sure somebody else doesn't get more money than me?

[A]

So you know, in the United States, when you are born, you are called a corporation, right? That's why, when.

[B]

That's why I said it's a business.

[A]

When you die, you're called corpse because you are.

[B]

Is that a conspiracy word?

[A]

They do this, man. Hold on, let me spit some game right now, boy. Hold on.

[B]

Look, he's trying to get his little black boy. So you see him trying to get his little black black.

[A]

I told you, if I show you my grandma, she's not as big as you, but she's like you.

[B]

What about your father?

[A]

My father has had curly hair like yours. Now he doesn't have hair.

[B]

I don't have curly hair. My hair is braided.

[A]

It's braided but unbraided.

[B]

Woolly. It's very woolly. Like Jesus.

[A]

You're gonna have to show me pictures of that Jesus because so far every time I see him in churches, he's got long straight.

[B]

Who's describing them?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

When you read his description in the Bible, it does not match the picture that you see.

[A]

And it's ridiculous how these people.

[B]

You know what's crazy?

[A]

It's crazy to me that you're telling me that. But they still have them in every church with long hair, white, holding the baby.

[B]

You know, one of the things they say is in social media is do you ever see memes on. I'm pretty sure you do. You see a meme on social media, you say, what?

[A]

The biggest meme on social media.

[B]

So let's say the memes, right? People, people would just write a meme and then post it and they'll think that that meme is real. Just because it's a meme, it could say anything, right? That's what they did with Jesus. They didn't. If you read the book about Jesus and get his description and then look at the picture, it's not going to match. But like I was saying earlier, white people are not going to serve no black king. They're going to going to teach White people to look up to the people that we're enslaving. And then for me, the very race of people that enslaved my people. You want me to believe that the king of their people wants me to be free? That God can't love everybody? He can't. Because there's a winner, there's a loser. Their God has them as the winner and us as the losers. How could I ever serve that God that wants me to be a loser? So that Jesus is not a real God. He's an impostor.

[A]

And that's why you go to the pastor.

[B]

The pastor's lying too.

[A]

You go to the pastor because he's an impostor.

[B]

No, shut up man.

[A]

That's not upset. That's why he's a prophet. Cuz you make profit.

[B]

You probably. He probably hang with the wrong black people cuz he maybe cuz those ain't good enough.

[A]

Let me tell you something.

[B]

You did good one. You said that was funny.

[A]

You have, you have the people at the top, which they might not be even people, which we call the elites.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think we ever see them under them.

[A]

Of course. Because when you watch a movie, you don't see the director, you don't see the producer, you see the actors.

[B]

So the people that trump, you know when they talk about like. Exactly. I agree.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He's an actor. He, he even everybody in the front. The face, the face that you see is not the ones pulling the strings.

[A]

The strings, that's right. Because the people that are pulling the strings have to think about what they have to do and in order to get you to do what they want you to do and make you believe it's your own idea.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Because when I put for you a Nike, when I put for anybody Nike shoes and now all these kids are running after Nike shoes. Why they know Nike is good because they saw it on a screen. It's all Jordan on a billboard. They saw Jordan wearing it, right? So now they're like, oh, I'm going to die for my Jordans.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why the fuck are you going to die for?

[B]

That's why in our communities we don't see white people come in our communities. They get a black person to come in our community.

[A]

You have a calling. Oh, and your calling is to go and guide the rest of the black people in the US to a better place.

[B]

Look at that.

[A]

You have a.

[B]

This man prophesying right now. Cuz you are correct.

[A]

I hope, I hope that you're giving up all of your time to do that because you are dedicated to this. I am. And I prefer them believing that they are Israelites and Jews and whatever you have, because I haven't sat with you enough to know all of the things.

[B]

Right. No, I'm speaking. No, what you're saying is right. He almost sound like Agrippa, except he ain't sarcastic.

[A]

No, no, I'm not being sarcastic at all.

[B]

No, Agrippa in the Bible was being sarcastic.

[A]

No, no, but I'm telling you the truth. Because black children today need the guidance and black fathers need to be there more for their children. And you could guide them to a better place.

[B]

You know what I like about black fathers? Like, there's 48 million black people, they say in America. And if you take the crime out of that 48 million.

[A]

No, no, there are six. There are 6% of 13.

[B]

13%.

[A]

No, there's 6% of the society, 13% of the crime.

[B]

No, no, we're 12 to 13% of. Of the population in America. And that number, they say, comes to 48 million. So out of that 48 million only.

[A]

Yes, yes, sorry. 50% of the. 50% of the. Of the harsh crimes. Yes, 13%.

[B]

You know what's crazy? Wait, I'll get to that in a second. So out of that 48 million, it's not even a million of us that are criminals. It's not even a million. That means there's 47 million black people that are living their lives. And the stats of those 47 million says that the fathers are the. The black fathers are the number one dads in America. So you have to get rid of the propaganda of the machine like you was talking about earlier, that presents this norm of what black people are. Because stats show.

[A]

And again, the stats is what they show us. Right, right. Because I'm not at their homes. I don't see them.

[B]

No, you're right. So not just stats. What they show in the media is that black people are like these great criminals. Like this weekend, when for whatever reason, black people celebrated fourth of July, I don't know why they would do it, but they show videos of black people, I think beat up a cop or something like that, but nobody showed the white people beating up everybody too. In multiple different places celebrating the fourth of July, there's a group of white boys that just unalive this black boy that was just trying to be friends with them. So when it come to black fathers, though, black fathers are the number one dads in America. That's a stat you can look up. So it's not that we're not there, it's just that the machine would have you believe that we're not there. Like when you mentioned the black on black crime. There's no white on white crime. There's no Chinese on Chinese crime, there's no Arab on Arab crime. They only make it black on black. And that's not. Most people look at it like because of the crack epidemic and stuff like that. But in the 70s, Bill Cosby had made this in this news article and he was like, when a black person commits a crime in a newspaper, it'll say black man committed a crime. But when a white person commits a crime, it'll just say the perp or to say the male or to say the man. It doesn't emphasize race.

[A]

But if you say. But with us, for example, if you say Israeli or Jewish, it will say Israeli or Jewish.

[B]

So the point is there's a propaganda which that exists.

[A]

What we're going to talk about before today too.

[B]

Oh yeah, we do got to both

[A]

oppressed in a way.

[B]

I think it's who Moore is oppressed. Cuz y' all do a lot of. Y' all have done a lot of oppression. You know, y' all had slaves, y' all were part of the slave trade. Y' all own slaves.

[A]

So it's crazy because I also looked it up just to see if it's true, but I couldn't find it anywhere. If you could tell me where and when did we have slaves because we were always enslaved.

[B]

That's cap. Well, y'. All. I forgot y' all trying to be impostor. So I get why you say that. We're not trying to be imposter, but y are impostors. This is. I'll give you some stats.

[A]

So what are we? Please share with me.

[B]

If we're. Well, like you said, you're Moroccan.

[A]

If we're pretending to be Jewish, then we're.

[B]

You're Moroccan. I'm just going to in general not talk about you specifically Moroccan, Portuguese, Spaniard, German, Russian, Poland. That's what you are. And you just converted because we migrated into those regions.

[A]

So let's say we converted. Yes, we converted into Judaism, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So if we converted, then that means that we're still Jewish. No.

[B]

Okay, so I get why you say that. So what I'm saying when I say converted to help you understand what I'm talking about is ethnically we're Israelites. Conversion. You could be Jewish. Like y' all don't even use the same terminology as Us, Y' all use the term Jewish. You say you're a Jew according to your mother. That's not in the Bible. So even the way that y' all practice the Judaism is not the same as us Yalls are.

[A]

What does it say in the Bible?

[B]

It's 12 tribes of Israel. Right?

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're all men. Right. There's no woman that started a tribe of Israel. Right. So how can you be an Israelite through a woman when the Bible has never said you're an Israelite by a woman? And then, Joseph.

[A]

I was going to tell you the story behind it.

[B]

Oh, yeah? You want to tell me the story now?

[A]

The. You cut me off earlier.

[B]

I did?

[A]

We kind of.

[B]

Yeah, we both cut each other out. Don't start crying now. Don't start crying now.

[A]

All the Israelites, they just. Next thing you know, he's going to pull out his boot.

[B]

Are you going to kiss it?

[A]

No. My end, my end, my end. Let me.

[B]

So there's some prominent figures of Jewish ancestry associated with the slave trade. Diego Caballero, wealthy merchant in Seville. The Jorge family. Isaac Monsanto. The Monsanto family. I can give you some more if you want some more. Antonio Fernandez Elvas. That's why a lot of them span.

[A]

A lot of. They all sound Spanish to me.

[B]

A lot of the Latino. Well, they're coming from Spain. These are Sephardic Jews that converted. Some converted to Christian. I can give you the sources. This is Library of Congress, one of the sources.

[A]

They put for himself online.

[B]

Because I knew. And he believed. Because I knew.

[A]

Wait.

[B]

Because I knew you was gonna ask for a source. I knew you was gonna ask for a source.

[A]

It's crazy to me. Your. Your. Was it your uncle? Your grandpa was a pastor?

[B]

Yes, my grandpa was a pastor.

[A]

And you came from being a Christian.

[B]

I'm a Christian.

[A]

And you one day decided I'm an Israelite.

[B]

Well, you know what? What's interesting is that.

[A]

What I decided to come to you.

[B]

Okay. I'm gonna tell you so.

[A]

Because it doesn't come to me, and I go, I'm Chinese right now.

[B]

I'm gonna just let it. Let the audience know he just spent. Off the subject because he didn't think I had Sephardic Jews. That was a part of the slave trade. I don't have a problem answering the question. But I did answer that.

[A]

But the source that you gave me, it sounds like. Doesn't sound like a real source.

[B]

I can give you more sources. I can give you more. Listen, listen. I made it my business over there. I made it my business. You know what's crazy? That's what I was about to say. That's what I'm about to say. The Latinos that have those last names. Wait, let me finish. Latinos that have those last name, Hernandez, Lopez, etc that come from the Jewish Spaniards that went into South America and then own blacks and own Latinos. And then just like we took on Williams and Douglas is his last name, they did the same thing.

[A]

I'll tell you why. One thing, I 100 agree that everyone had slaves, every single culture.

[B]

And you know what's crazy?

[A]

Even as when we're talking about slaves, I'm talking about people who worked for you.

[B]

That's a servant.

[A]

Because if you really think, what does a slave do?

[B]

So he goes to work, right? Gets paid, right?

[A]

He gets a bed, place to sleep

[B]

at night, but he doesn't get his identity taken. And slavery, he doesn't get tortured. And his children don't go into that same captivity that he's in. When you do that, that's shadow slavery.

[A]

Do you know that some of the slaves worry about it? Even the owner gave his daughter for the slave to have more children. Everything is cap for you. No, no, brought my hat.

[B]

No, you was talking a while. I ain't say nothing was cap, but that right there is cap.

[A]

I read that.

[B]

Here's what I would believe. Here's what I would believe. I would believe that the slave master's daughter wanted to hop on that black penis more than I would believe that the father gave it away because that white woman, they can't resist. Black penis is, is. They can't resist it. They in love with it. They go crazy over it. That's a fact. Yeah,

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You one of the funniest people. You are one of the funniest people that I've ever sat down with.

[A]

Well, that's what they'd be in love with,

[B]

You know, And I give it a year and now. But what I wanted to point out to, if you want to say everybody

[A]

went in captivity, when people ask me, wait, you're from Africa? Are you half black? I tell them from the waist down.

[B]

Yeah, I don't believe that. So when, when you talk about being enslaved, the only people that has never been free from that bondage is us. That's how, you know, it's worse for us. Even for when Hitler was doing what he was doing to the Ashkanazis, right? And there's no place to put him. And they, they. So before they established the state of Israel, they was Looking at South America for this be the state of Israel. They was looking at Haiti to be the state of Israel. They was looking at Africa to be the state of Israel. You can look up the Belford act for this information. This is the late 1800s, early 1900s. And then that's when they set their eyes on Palestine. Palestine was bigger at that time. And then they created the Belford act where they was only supposed to bring in a certain amount of Jewish immigrants into the land. The Palestinians welcomed them, they went to war, they beat Hitler, they come in. And now they're not oppressed anymore. They get government funding. To this day, even government funding. Even as far as snap. I want to shout out one guy I do like, this white guy, Tyler Oliveira. He did a documentary on how the orthodox Jewish community are like 50% of them are on welfare. Nobody talks about that. They make it seem like the black woman is the queen of welfare. But there's more whites, Jewish and white people on welfare than us. And so everybody has been liberated from the oppression that they were in. Italians come over here as illegal immigrants and criminals, they don't have to be that no more. Irish come over here, they don't have to be that no more. But for us, we have never been allowed to be liberated from the man that oppressed us. So I would say we're been more oppressed than you guys.

[A]

And what do you think is the solution to all of this?

[B]

I don't think there ever be a solution. But if I had to give a hypothetical.

[A]

If you were to say, okay, we. What is one thing that you could do in the next 10 years to make the world a better place? Place, at least for your people?

[B]

Well, what I. What I've been doing for 17 years now is just waking my people up to the identity and living better morally. Because when your morality change, if we live according to the law, statute, commandments of God, we'll have a greater loyalty to each other. As much as you see me talking about what white people do and stuff like that, there's tons of things we do to ourselves that got to be corrected. So I make it my business to correct that. If I can correct that, then we'll grow and then we'll be better. So I do talk about, you know, what white people do, but I also talk about what my people do because I would be a hypocrite if I didn't talk about us. Abortion, drugs, homosexuality, violence and stuff like that. So I go out in our communities and fix that problem. That's what I do.

[A]

Okay, so you're just, you're pretty much doing. What I'm doing is going out there to make the world a better place. I could tell and I could see where the world is going for a very long time, but go ahead. For a very long time, the elites were talking about the new World order, reducing population and because everything is out of control, it really is on purpose. It is on purpose. It is on purpose. And that's why right now we're declining as a human race. We're literally going. I feel like we're going back to Neanderthal times. We're becoming dumber with AI and with robots and everything that's coming. If we're not going to work together as a team, majority of us are not going to be.

[B]

You know, my only conspiracy with the AI and the robots is I don't do conspiracy so much. But the more we get in love with AI and robots, the more I think about the Matrix, the more I think about that. That's probably like my own conspiracy. But I do think we're getting more base.

[A]

In 10 years, AI will replace God for majority of humans. Damn. They will go to AI to ask

[B]

should they doing it now. Listen, when I get in conversations and arguments with people, you know what they do?

[A]

No, but they're going to go to

[B]

AI, go right to Google Y, go right to AI. AI, tell me what it said. Tell me about how do I start my day? How do I be a better woman?

[A]

AI think about it this way. They're going to pray to AI.

[B]

I was, I was in reference to a woman. I'm not a woman. Just.

[A]

I don't want that.

[B]

They're.

[A]

They're going to go to AI for everything. Eventually, AI will replace God. It will give godly answers. We're in the worst time that we've ever been. If we don't work together as a team, whether a Jew, Israelite, Mexican, Christian, Muslim, if we don't work together, it's going to be the end of time because they don't need us anymore. We are not needed. We are. Me and you are rebels. We are a virus to this shit.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Whether you do what you do or I do what I do, we're a virus to this.

[B]

And you could see that coming. Like when, when we see kids today and they're allowed to use their phones for math and algebra, where we couldn't do that.

[A]

No way.

[B]

You had to actually learn it and know it because now you can memorize it and then it makes them dependent on this as opposed to their brain. And then when they don't have this and you tell them to spell a word because you know the keyboards will spell the words for you, right? The keyboard is going to tell you two plus two. And you start doing all of that. And then you take that away from them. What can they do with that? And so it. It's a logical conclusion that the more we're dependent on machines. That's why I said the Matrix.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just like it. I could be. I could play conspiracy a little bit with you.

[A]

It's not conspiracy. We see where it's going. So many things were conspiracy until we found out that they're not conspiracy. It's just somebody knew that it actually happened, that it's real, that it's true. Then later on, people caught on to it. The same thing that's happening now. You see how AI is improving every single day, right? It's about to take everybody's jobs. We're not going to need you. Especially if you're rebel.

[B]

Listen. And I don't know, I think they do it out here too. The cars are driving themselves.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I saw a machine delivering food.

[A]

Food. The plane is taking off, flying and landing on its own. Now you don't need a captain. That's why you got autopilot. And now you have it in your car. But let me give you one more thing. We're getting to a time. Because they've tried to do everything to remove us. Covid. They tested us. Now robots. We're getting to a time where they're really not going to need us. And doesn't matter what we do. We're about to disappear off the face of the planet. Somebody told me this, somebody high up. He said, back in 2004, there was a program by the government called LifeLog. LifeLog. You could look it up.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm gonna put it in my phone. I wanna look it up later. But I wanna listen to what you have to say.

[A]

What they were doing is they were going to track everybody's movements. Everything you like, everything you do. Your information, your address, anything you put in your phone. It pretty much detects everything and it tracks everything for you, for them. So the people went against it. So on February 4, 2004, they agreed to shut down LifeLog. You know what opened up that same day? Facebook. Mark. Do you think Mark started Facebook? Do you think so? No shit.

[B]

MySpace was before Facebook. That was probably the start, the probably first experiment.

[A]

But here, now they're tracking everything. Where you are at all times. You put in your credit card, your address, your birthday, what music you listen to, what things you like, what are you watching? Your phone is taking photos of you. Every single, like five, six seconds, that's taking photos of you. Now, they track you. Now why did they do that? Because the majority of people today are a waste of space in the world and they want to get rid of them. So they've been tracking them right now for about 20 something years. In a few more years, when we have enough robots, they're saying by 2032 to 2035, we're going to have about double the amount of robots than we do have humans. Which means they don't need the human. Everyone that is trolling on social media, cursing, doing, saying, should kill this guy, get rid of this guy, this guy. And they're a waste of space. They don't work, they don't do anything with their life. They're the first ones to go and they're going to start cleaning house.

[B]

The robots,

[A]

the elites.

[B]

Oh, the elites. Okay.

[A]

They're creating the robots.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I pray that. Well, my prayers, we don't have to wait that long. That's my prayer.

[A]

You want the Messiah to come, God to come, aliens to come, the Israelites to come.

[B]

Why do you think they release all that UFO stuff?

[A]

Because it's just the next thing?

[B]

No, I, I, next level. So in the 80s, remember Ronald Reagan gave that UFO speech? He said, I wonder if we would put aside our differences. If a entity came from another realm, then you get, think about what you said about Facebook. So then you notice all the Alien movies start coming now. The Alien movies, like Independence Day. What happens at Independence Day? Everybody unites because this alien came from another place. So they release all the UFO information. So that way when something does come from another realm. You don't think this could be the return of the Messiah. This is an alien and we have to all fight. In the Apocrypha second Ezra, the 13th chapter, it tells you that in the middle of us fighting each other, Christ will return and then we'll stop fighting each other to fight that entity. So that's what I see. I don't think robots is going to be the end of it. We'll be the end of ourselves because we just can't stop war fighting. You look at Netanyahu. Every time Trump goes to make a deal, Netanyahu blows some more shit up. Even though I think Iran beat the out of Trump personally.

[A]

It's all, it's all a game.

[B]

It's all orchestrated I don't, I don't, I don't deny that. But that's my point.

[A]

You open up this portal to hell. Take a look at the back of it. What do you have on the iPhone? Oh, you have the symbol of the forbidden fruit with a bite mark on it.

[B]

Lord, right.

[A]

Look at it. Look at the apple.

[B]

No, no, my iPhone's over there.

[A]

I'm going to show you. I know people don't pay attention, but

[B]

there wasn't no apple in the garden, man. No problem.

[A]

Maybe not, but in our stories there was. You see that? You see that? Maybe there was a banana. Take a look.

[B]

It wasn't no real fruit at all. I see it, I see it, I see it.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

I see it.

[A]

And this is, this is the forbidden of today. And that's why it's called an iPhone. Because I turned into a fun all day.

[B]

My conspiracy don't go. Yeah, my conspiracy don't go.

[A]

But you can see, I, I, I'm

[B]

not saying you ain't wrong. Just my conspiracy don't go that far. That's all. It's a fun.

[A]

People don't know me. I'm actually more of a comedian than a serious guy.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

He, he's getting clips of me on the side like when I don't pay attention because he's my right hand man. Because I just like to laugh all the time. I'm, I'm just as happy a man. And people are thinking that I'm always like serious, Serious.

[B]

Yeah. I'm always like there's a time and place like that. That's how you stay. To me, that's how you stay young and you stay with your wits about yourself when you ain't all angry all day. Yeah, you know, militant. I like the militant part. But you ain't all angry all day.

[A]

I smile. Waking up at 2:45am getting in the ice bath, going for a run, then training for two hours, fasting.

[B]

That's your schedule? Yeah, I usually get up, I get up at 5:45 to go to the gym. I'm usually in the gym by 6:30.

[A]

I'll be done with my second workout by that time.

[B]

Yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, it's different. How about, see you've been doing. I don't know why you showed me.

[A]

I saw the camera.

[B]

Because they'd be watching about to say, because I'm not a woman, man. Show that, that camera right there.

[A]

That camera right there is watching.

[B]

Take when he lift that shirt up, take me out the Scene of that one.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I always get them to laugh back there.

[A]

Always get. Wait, what's this guy wearing? He's a cowboy.

[B]

No, that's our garments that, you know. That's his fringes on his board of his clothes.

[A]

That's actually dope.

[B]

I know you like it. Don't bite the now. And if you do bite it, say, I got it from Captain Tzaria. He didn't tell me I could do it, but I'm biting them because we used to imposter. So it's okay. You can.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

Man.

[A]

Y' all want to wrap this up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was about to say, cuz I got a. A head out.

[A]

Go on un show. Yeah. All right, guys. We'll link their socials. Thanks for debating, fellas. Wasn't much of a debate, but it was cool.

[B]

No, I think it ended up being a dope ass conversation. I actually. I actually liked it better.

[A]

Awesome. I'm not as bad as people say I am, am I?

[B]

I don't know what they say about you. This is my first time meeting you. I. And I would never let what somebody else says about you dictate how I dealt with you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because people say a lot of stuff about me, and then when I meet him in person, it's like, oh, I didn't know you was like. I said, yeah, because you listen to everybody else.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's horrible, but it was dope, man. I appreciate it.

[A]

Oh, yeah, check them out, guys.

[B]

We're admitting it by.

[A]

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