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Carlos Reyes: Charlie Kirk Was a Movement And That’s Why They Wanted Him Gone | DSH #1797
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From AmFest, Sean sits down with returning guest Carlos Reyes for one of the most emotional and controversial conversations from the floor. Carlos opens up about his journey from being brought into the U.S. illegally to earning citizenship after 16 years, why he supported Trump early, and why he now says he’s disappointed with the administration and the state of the movement. The heart of this episode is Charlie Kirk: Carlos argues Charlie wasn’t just a loud voice — he was a leader and a movement, and that’s exactly what made him a threat. He also shares the viral story of why he walked out of his church when they refused to honor Charlie — a moment that exploded online with millions of views. They also touch on broken promises, transparency, big donors, internal infighting, and Carlos’ view on a path to legalization for long-term immigrants who’ve paid taxes and stayed out of trouble. 🎯 What you’ll learn 🇺🇸 Carlos’ 16-year path from illegal immigrant to U.S. citizen 📉 W...
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A
Charlie Kirk wasn't just a voice. He wasn't just a loud voice like Candace and Tucker and Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes and all these guys. He wasn't just a voice. That guy stood for something. That guy was a movement. That guy was a leader.
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B
I mean, look at all this.
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A
Yeah. No, Nick Fuentes and Candace and Tucker, they're not doing this.
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B
31,000 people.
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A
What I'm saying is he was a threat.
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B
All right, guys, here with a good friend of mine, Carlos Reyes. You were one of my first guests, I believe.
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A
Absolutely. Back in. In Vegas, almost two.
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B
Two and a half years ago, I think you were within the first 50 episodes.
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A
Yeah. Here we are at America Fest, Phoenix, Arizona. Right. This place is super packed, and surprisingly enough, you know, I haven't seen any fights.
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B
No fights. Those will be at the after parties. Got it.
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A
Got it.
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B
That will be a James o' Keefe's rave tonight.
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A
Oh, that makes sense.
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B
How are you feeling about Trump's administration so far?
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A
Disappointed. Dissatisfied, I would say disgusted, even, you know, because I've been. First of all, you know, it took me 16 years to gain and earn my citizenship in this country. I'm an illegal immigrant, Right. And I was brought here, you know, through a fence here in Nogales, about three hours from here. Yeah, Nogales. And, you know, my mom fought very hard. She started my paperwork process in 1996.
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B
Wow.
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A
I became a citizen in 2012, and the first president I ever voted for was Trump.
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B
Wow.
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A
And I fought for him. I started fighting for him around 2014, 2015, and, you know, I went against the grain. I. You know, culturally, right. Being a Mexican, everybody was like, trump's a racist. He's talking about. He's saying that all of us immigrants are. I don't know if you remember the first term, Right. And no, no, I'm like, no, that's not what he said. That's not what he said. You know, he said, we got to get rid of all the bad actors. Right. And anyway, so I started supporting Trump, you know, for, you know, 2014, 2015, and I kept supporting him, and I kept fighting for him. And even when the election, you know, when he lost the second election in 2020, I was still fighting for him. You know, I was still fighting for him. I. I become. I. I become. I've. I've become intimate with the Republican political party here in Arizona, you know, Carrie Lake. And, you know, I did. I did all that, right, Just fighting for Trump. And. And we won in 2024, right here. Here's the reality, brother, for me, right. I'm a, I'm a Christian, I'm a third generation Christian. So I'm a Christian conservative, right. Whether it's Trump or whether it's whoever else, I'm a Christian conservative. So I'm a conservative. I'm a, I'm a, I'm an organic, natural conservative. Therefore I'm always going to lean, you know, that side of things. But at the end of the day, you know, in 2024, we fought for them, we won, we got the House, we got, you know, we got the Senate, we got the White House and, and here we are a year in and promises made are not, have not been kept. Even though that's the propaganda you're seeing out there. Right. So I'm just very disappointed. I feel like we haven't made much progress this year and families, and American families can't even put $1,000 away in their savings. And you know, I used to. The average American, the average age of the first time home buyer in America used to be around 31 years of age. Yeah, 31 years of age. Now it's like closer to 40.
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B
Holy shit.
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A
You know what I mean? So it's like, dude, you're halfway through your life and you're about to buy your first house. So again, we have not made much advances this year with this administration.
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B
40 is nuts. Yep. And that's just signing up for a 30 year mortgage now. Even 50 year mortgage.
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A
Oh yeah. Now they want to put us in more debt where we're paying twice as much or triple as much as debt to own a half a million dollar home, you know. So yeah, man, we're not headed in the right direction. I hope something changes next year. Right. I hope that we actually put America first. Like, you know, that was one of the big promises. Right. I hope that we actually bring justice to you know, all the Epstein victims. I hope that we bring justice to know the assassination, the, the person, the people or the, the, the multi parties that were involved with the Charlie Kirk assassination. Because I do not believe it was a 22 year old, 22 year old kid with a. What is it? A transgender furry boyfriend. Yeah, you know the fur. The. Here, here's the domino effect where they went wrong initially. A 3006 bullet that should have decapitated Charlie Kirk and that's not what happened. You know what I mean? And then the removals of cameras and the paving of the spot and all kinds of just stuff that is not normal. Like where's the autopsy? You Know what I mean? Where is all this? So again, there's been no transparency and we were promised transparency. Do you not remember the big mouse out there like Cash Patel? We're going to be the most transparent FBI to ever step foot, you know, in power, right? We're going to be the most transparent administration. None of that has happened. Bongino just resigned. Marjorie Taylor just resigned. Thomas Massie is getting lit up, you know, by, by all these, you know, these MAGA influencers, you know, Come on, dude, what are we doing here? You know?
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B
Why do you think Bongino resigned?
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A
I believe that he refuses to compromise his integrity. I do, because I believe that, you know, his integrity comes first. And I'm hoping that that is the case. Right? You got a guy like Cash Patel that's. He doesn't know what's going on from left to right, you know, and that's not, I'm not trying to make fun of his, you know, his, what is he has his cross eyed or his cockeyes, but the guy is podcasting around, touring around in a private jet with his, you know, new little hottie tamale girlfriend that's half his age. You know, I mean, like, what are you doing, dude? You know, why don't you go and do some real work, man? You know, like, oh, I'll see you in Valhalla. Like, what are we doing here, bro? You know what I mean? Like what this is, it's disgusting, bro. And anybody with half a brain can see that, you know, the things that we were promised are not happening.
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B
Yeah. Do you think some of the big politicians, even Trump, do you think they're compromised by certain foreign governments?
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A
Brother, in 2016, from what I saw, Trump there, there, there wasn't hundreds of millions of dollars, right, infused into his political, political movement. And the second time around, actually for sure, this last time around, right, there's been like, what's her name? Miriam Adelson. Right. And, and all these, you know, these, these Larry Ellison and all these people, right, that have donated hundreds of millions of dollars, right? Do you think they did that to be nice? When you donate hundreds of millions of dollars, when you infuse hundreds of millions of dollars into a political figure, there are some expectations. There are some expectations and there are some promises that need to be kept to them. You know, they don't. This isn't, this isn't charity for them. You know what I mean?
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And unfortunately, when you run for president, you have to have some big donors these days to win or else you Lose. Yeah, yeah. You get in. It pretty much goes to say that you're going to be compromised if you're president.
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A
I believe that over 95% of the representatives in government are compromised. I do believe that state levels. Thomas Massie, I mean, it's easy, right? So again, I don't have anything against the Jews. I don't have anything against the blacks. I don't have anything against the Mexicans. I don't have anything against the whites. Right. So let's not make it a anti Semitism type of thing. You know what I mean? I'm a third generation Christian. Right. My Lord and Savior Christ is a Jewish. You know what I mean? But I'm not a Jude Christian because that's an oxymoron, if that makes any sense. Right. You know, the put Christ on the cross. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know we always say that it's the Romans, but that was politically. Politically and religiously motivated by the people that were in power of the Jewish establishment at that time.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Right. So again, you know, I don't know what's going on in this country anymore, but I know that we're. I know that Americans are not being put first. You know, we're not.
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B
After the Charlie Cook assassination, a lot of people were scared. They were wondering who's going to be next. Do you think someone as influential as him could be taken out again?
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A
If you think about it, bro, you know, I don't know if. I don't know if you came down to the.
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B
I didn't go to the memorial.
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A
No, no, no, no. Forget the memorial. Right. I was there with my wife. When. When the plane flew in with Charlie's. With Charlie's body. Right? Because at that point I was still kind of drinking the Kool Aid, right? I was. I was. Time has a way of exposing everything. Right? So it was too early. It was too early. It was a day or two after. Right? So anyway, here's what I'm thinking. Charlie Kirk wasn't just a voice. He wasn't just a loud voice like Candace and Tucker and Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes and all these guys. He wasn't just a voice. That guy stood for something. That guy was a movement. That guy was a leader.
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B
I mean, look at all this.
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A
That guy. Yeah, yeah. No, Nick Fuentes and Candace and Tucker, they're not doing this.
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B
31,000 people.
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A
So what I'm saying is he was a threat. He was a threat again, if he wasn't on your side, he was a threat and he wasn't a threat to the establishment. He was a threat to anyone. Right. The oligarchs, the people in power that have their own agendas. And if your agenda didn't match Charlie's agenda, you were going to lose. Charlie was the most powerful political and spiritual figure in America. And that was too much of a threat.
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B
You think that's why they took him out?
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A
That's why he was taken out. It wasn't a 22 year old furry boyfriend loving a dude, you know, in Utah. You know what I mean?
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's ridiculous.
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B
So when you see Candace say oh, there's a hit on me. Do you, do you get that? Any truth, do you think that's accurate?
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A
I mean, you know, potentially there could be.
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C
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A
Sean, potentially it could be right. I mean people, people murder people for fun, you know what I mean? Like, you know, if she is a threat to some level. And again, if you think about it, you know where it all kind of ties in. Like she has been going after some pretty powerful figures in the world, not just in America. Like brother, she kept telling the world that the first lady of France or the first dude of France, right? Macron's wife, Bridgette Macron has a penis and she kept saying it and she was getting millions and millions and millions of views. Right. So again, you're going to piss somebody off.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, and that person has money. They're going to figure out how to shut you up for sure. Yeah.
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B
What did you think of their Candace's four and a half hour meeting with Erica earlier this week?
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A
Did you see what happened yesterday?
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B
I didn't. What happened?
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A
Well, you know, when she did that, when she met with Erica for four and a half hours. Right. I didn't know this because at first I'm like, oh God, she's going to retract everything. She's going to start, you know, unwinding and she's going to stop trying to expose the truth, whatever the truth may be, because none of us know. Right. But then she had an ace up her sleeve that she didn't tell Erica and she didn't tell tpa, TP usa, and she didn't tell her own viewers. She knew. She, she knew this. So she brought on this military guy that happened to go down to, I think it was called Huachuca, some kind of military base here in Arizona near Sierra Vista. Right. Well, that dude that goes by the name of Mitch. Right. He is now claiming that Erica Kirk was at this military meeting on September 9th.
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B
So the day before.
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A
Yeah, September 9th. Yeah. And not only was Erica Kirk there, but there was a, there was a congressman there and there was also the head of Charlie Kirk Security. Was there.
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B
No way.
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A
So again, this is what he's claiming and he has brought receipts as far as where he was location. Right. That's been proven and there's a lot happening right now. And by the way, if they are able to prove that Erica was at a military base on September 9, 24 hours before Charlie got assassinated, with the head of Charlie Crook Security and a congressman and other military officials, that can really unlock Pandora's boss.
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B
Yeah. If they can prove that, holy crap.
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A
Yeah, it's game over at that point.
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B
Why would she be there?
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A
And you know what's crazy, by the way, you know, Erica was kind of staying away from, you know, the Candace Owens conspiracies and accusations. But then when she started, you know, talking about Egyptian people, planes, and you know, she started bringing other things and, and, and you know, Israeli, you know, is Israeli donors, and she started to bring all these things and prove most of these things, Erica felt the need to start addressing Candace and Erica felt the need to get in to go into a private four and a half hour meeting.
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B
Well, at first they Tried to ignore it, but I think the movement got so big, they realized it was doing more damage to ignore it.
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A
I believe T.P. uSA, brother. And I know, I truly do believe that T.P. uSA is compromised.
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B
Wow.
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A
I believe that. I believe that it's compromised, and I'm not saying that everybody at TP USA is compromised. I don't trust Jack Bauer. I don't trust. What's his name? Sorry, Tyler Bauer. I don't trust Tyler Bauer. I don't trust Jack Posebeck or whatever his name is. Right. I don't trust Andrew Kulvitz. I don't trust Blake Neff. I don't trust any of these people. Brother McCoy. I don't trust Mikey McCoy. I don't. I damn sure don't trust his father, Rob McCoy, who was recently removed from TP USA faith.
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B
Really?
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A
He was either removed or he resigned. Nonetheless, the guy's no longer part of TP USA Faith. Why is that?
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B
They didn't announce that.
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A
That was several days ago. You should definitely look it up.
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B
Candace was going at him, so that must be why the guy.
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A
Again, you can see the grift like, you see these guys, and everybody's just out trying to. By the way, not only TP USA, who has made what, 130 to 150 million dollars since Charlie Kirk's death.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Right towards the end of Charlie Kirk's life. What's this, bro? What's this? What's this? Charlie Kirk and I were actually testing.
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B
No way.
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A
A few months before he died, actually. Well, it was several months before he died, but watch this. Let me show you something. All right. What did Charlie Kirk say on November 24th?
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B
He said, Charlie, I would like. Oh, is this Robert?
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A
That's Robert. You know Robert. Yeah.
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B
Robert wins it. Charlie, I would like to introduce you to a lifelong friend of mine, Carlos Reyes. He is a big force in the U.S. real estate entrepreneur Communities has a great podcast many other top entrepreneurs have been on. I believe the two of you both have kids attending the same Christian school in Arizona. You two share many similar values. You should definitely connect. And Charlie said, let's meet.
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A
Let's meet. And I. I stopped pursuing that meeting. And I love Charlie. Charlie's. Charlie's a hero to me. You know, it's like. And I know it's like I get a little emotional because I don't have a lot of heroes, brother. You know, I'm 41 years old, man. I'm halfway through my life. You know, I fought. I thought I, I. I have fought really Hard to get to this country. I fought really hard to stay in this country. I have fought really hard to build, you know, the businesses that I've built and to build the communities that I'm building. Right. I have fought really hard. And Charlie, you know, Charlie is one of my heroes. You know, not so much just because of the political, you know, his political stance, but mostly his, you know, his, his. His spiritual stance.
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B
Wow.
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A
Right. His faith. Remember what he said? I want to be remembered by my courage and my faith. Right. I'm a third generation Christian brother. And, you know, I see it. I see Charlie, I see his heart, I see his spirit, I see his love. Right. I see his integrity. And I believe that, you know, during that time when Charlie said, let's meet, I didn't want to pursue it because of his stance on Israel at that specific moment.
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B
Wow.
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A
And my wife said, baby, Charlie, Charlie, at that point, I think he was 30 years old. He's like, Baby Charlie's 30 years old. Give him time. He's young. His awareness and his discernment, his spiritual discernment will develop. He will, he'll realize it. He'll come around. And sure thing, brother, guess what happened towards the end of his life, I saw that he started to come around. He started to see some of the things that he just didn't agree with. He. He called out Ben Shapiro. He's like, ben, come on, man. All the is on the media. Ben, come on. Right? Remember that.
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B
Like that, right?
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A
Megan Kelly, right? When Charlie's like, he's like, they're questioning my character.
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B
Yep.
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A
They're attacking me. They're ostracizing me. Right. They're threatening me. You know, Charlie got it towards the end and he said, I am going to leave the pro Israel movement because his audience, the youth that he was leading, they did not agree with him on that stance and neither did I. And I have nothing against Jewish people. God bless them. I have many Jewish brothers and friends. Right. I believe I was with a Jewish friend yesterday. You know what I mean? And he disagrees with what's going on, Right. It wasn't about that. Charlie had a heart for people. Charlie had a heart for Christ. And Charlie had a heart for this country. And he saw it and he turned. And I believe that the enemy, whoever the enemy is, right? The devil came and offered him something that most people would not refuse. I think he was offered hundreds of millions of dollars. And he said no. He said no because Charlie, his foundation was in Christ. And he said no. So now, right, okay. I can't blackmail this person, and I can't buy this person. Most people, and most people in America and most people in Congress, specifically most people in the government, they could be bought or they could be blackmails.
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B
They got a price.
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A
There's about 95% of them, right? Well, he doesn't have a price. He doesn't have a price. And you couldn't blackmail him. You couldn't blackmail him. And when they realized that he was just too much of a threat, whoever they are makes. Does that make sense?
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B
Rest in peace, Charlie.
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A
Rest in peace. Love a man.
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B
He'll always live on love.
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A
I mean, when he died, bro, I sent them a personal text message. I knew he would never receive it, but I told him, I said, hey, brother, look at this.
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B
You put it out there in the universe.
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A
I put it out there, right? Watch this. September 10th at 7pm what I tell.
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B
Him, rest in peace, soldier. We'll take it from here. Wow.
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A
I love Charlie, bro. I cried for Charlie. I cried for Charlie. I cried for Charlie.
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B
I haven't cried like that in years.
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A
I cried for Charlie in private, in, you know, in private with my wife. I cry for him, brother. Did you know that I. I walked away from a church. Did you see that? I had a. I had a clip. I had a. I had a. A video go viral. Look at this. Look at this, bro.
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B
You walked away.
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A
I walked away out of a church because they refused to honor Charlie, bro.
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B
Really?
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A
Watch this, bro.
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B
Wow.
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A
I walked away. What does that say? How many views is that? 5.56 million views on one reel. Because I walked out of the church that I was a part of, that I was a member, that I was a avid contributor.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Led small groups, baptized people at that church. That pastor married my wife and me. I buried. I actually got to host my brother's service when he passed.
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B
Wow.
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A
At that church. I was at this church for over a decade, and I walked out of that church. I renounced that church because they refuse to honor Charlie Kirk. I lost a brother in Christ.
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B
That's so weird. What was their reason?
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A
Well, they were afraid to lose members, and they were afraid to lose offerings and tithings.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I called out my pastor. I called them out.
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B
Wow.
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A
I called them out. I text them in private, like I should.
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B
That's unfortunate.
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A
That's right.
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B
You also had a video get 4 million views about Mexican workers. So do you believe Mexicans are the hardest workers in America?
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A
I do believe that. I believe. Here's what I'm going to tell you. Brother. Okay. I believe Mexicans in this country have had a huge impact on. On the building and the developments. Right. Of this country. The buildings, the houses, right? Like, you name it, we were there. Our hands were involved, right? Legal Mexicans and illegal Mexicans. And here's what I'm saying. Mexican. Mexican people. Brother. We're conservative by birth. Yeah, we are. We are conservative, naturally. We love God. We love our families. We're loyal. We love our jobs. We love to work. We love to. We love to earn. You know what I mean? Like, we love to. We're sitting here like, why did my mom risk her life to come to this country? And then why does she risk the lives of her children, which is me, to come to this country in order to try to achieve the American dream. We were running away from poverty. We were running away from poverty, and we were running away from corruption in Mexico, and that's why we came into this country. Here's what I'll tell you. I hope that one day there is a path to legalization in this country. I'm not saying a path to citizenship. It took me 16 years to become a citizen of this country. 16 years. I'm not saying that a path to legalization, that means that you've been in this country for X amount of years. You have zero felonies, you have zero misdemeanors, you have been paying taxes through your ITIN number. Right? I hope that at some point there is a path to legalization in this country, because a lot of Mexicans love this country and we just want to be part of the American dream. We already are. We already are. But in the shadows.
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B
Yeah. Makes sense. Carlos, it's always good seeing you, brother.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
Thank you for your time. God bless. Yeah. We'll link your podcast and socials below. Thanks for watching, guys. Peace.
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C
I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm.
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B
Thank you.