Cassius Marsh:Trading Cards to Six Figures Secrets to Huge Profits | DSH #1426

Summary

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Digital Social Hour | Cassius Marsh: Trading Cards to Six Figures—Secrets to Huge Profits

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Cassius Marsh
Episode: #1426
Date: June 30, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this insightful episode, Sean Kelly sits down with NFL defensive end and trading card entrepreneur Cassius Marsh, digging into Marsh’s transition from pro football to the high-stakes world of trading cards. The conversation ranges from the economics and psychology of collectibles, perspectives on sports business politics, and reflections on personal growth and money. Listeners receive practical advice for collectors, candid stories from the trenches of pro sports and business, and valuable financial lessons for today’s young athletes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Trading Card Boom: From Hobby to High Finance

• Cassius’s Entry into High-End Trading Cards

  • Grew up with little money; now appreciates high-end collectibles for their stability ("the rarer things that don't typically depreciate, they always appreciate in value." — Cassius, 02:16)
  • Enjoys both playing Magic: The Gathering and collecting cards, but sees himself first as a player.

• Magic: The Gathering vs. Poker & Yu-Gi-Oh! — Game Complexity

  • “Magic the Gathering’s by far the most complicated and interactive game, like trading card game. Damn.” (Cassius, 01:56)
  • Magic is more skill-based and knowledge-intensive compared to poker and Yu-Gi-Oh!

• Trends in Sports Card Collecting

  • Sports cards feel like day trading—volatile, especially with football and basketball cards tied closely to player performance and injuries.
  • Baseball cards are seen as "blue chip stocks," with prospects reliably turning into valuable cards (Cassius, 04:02).

• Modern Collector Mistakes

  • Many collectors lose money speculating on modern hype (e.g., Zion Williamson or Ja Morant) vs. established legends like Kobe or Tim Duncan.

Flipping, Profits, and Store Ownership

• Biggest Flip: Dual Lands in Magic

  • Bought a playset for $7–8k, now worth $30–40k (08:16)
  • Reserve list Magic cards hold and grow value; modern Pokémon is “insanity”—stores can see 4x returns on hot new sets (09:23)

• Strategy Advice for Collecting/Flipping Cards

  • Need to be more calculated—"it's like the stock market" (Cassius, 07:52)
  • Importance of understanding shelf life, monitoring the market, and flipping quickly on hype prospects.

• Turning Passion into Business

  • Marsh expresses gratitude for making a living from both football and trading cards (09:41)

Sports Industry Real Talk: Money, NIL, and the Game's Dark Side

• NIL Era vs. “Living Broke” as a Young Athlete

  • “For so long players were just getting taken advantage of…. We were literally living broke. Which is fine, builds character or whatever, but…I think it’s a good thing and a bad thing for these young guys because money changes people.” (Cassius, 00:40 / 14:43)
  • Marsh reflects on how he’d easily have made six figures in today’s NIL environment—a luxury he didn’t have.
  • Challenges young players now face with sudden wealth, risk of complacency without proper guidance.

• NFL Career Realities and Organizational Politics

  • NFL career lasts only 2–3 years on average; teams cycle in cheaper, younger talent quickly.
  • Marsh gives personal examples of outperforming teammates in camp but being cut due to team politics and investments in first-round picks. (“It’s not always about who the best player is, which is crazy.” — 17:19)
  • “The teams that consistently win…do everything better, top to bottom.” (Cassius, 19:29)

• Fully Guaranteed MLB Deals & NFL’s Health Problem

  • Admiration for MLB’s contract structure where deals are fully guaranteed, unlike the NFL.
  • Calls for the NFL to offer lifetime health insurance, as players face severe post-career health and insurance hurdles ("you just become, you know, kind of impossible to insure." — Cassius, 22:58)

Personal Stories & Relatable Moments

• Nostalgia and Lost Collections

  • Both reminisce over giving away childhood Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh! collections now potentially worth six figures. Marsh shares Bradley Martyn’s story of trashing his collection in college (“Rip for sure. Just throwing away like a…” — 13:37).

• Family, Upbringing & Mother's Day Shout-outs

  • Insights into Marsh’s strict but supportive upbringing, kicked out of his mom’s school as a kid (“I just whooped his ass”—Cassius, 12:10)
  • Heartfelt tributes to mothers and stories about doing small things to make them happy (“That’s all my mom wants…to spend time with her son.” — Cassius, 10:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Magic: The Gathering vs. Other Card Games:

  • “Way more. I mean, Yu-Gi-Oh, like original Yu-Gi-Oh, probably the Yu-Gi-Oh that you think about was way simpler…. But Magic the Gathering’s, by far the most complicated and interactive game, like trading card game. Damn.” — Cassius Marsh (01:56)

• On Card Collecting and Day Trading:

  • “Football and basketball are like kind of like day trading… one injury, one mess up off the field… these guys have to stay perfect to maximize the value.” — Cassius Marsh (03:25)

• On the Business of Cards:

  • “It’s like the stock market, bro.” — Cassius Marsh (07:52)
  • “I bought a full playset… for 7 or 8k… now a full playset of like Dual Lands is probably like 30, 30k, 40k. Yeah, something like that.” — Cassius Marsh (08:55)

• On NIL and Paying College Athletes:

  • “I think I was like rivals, like number 33 player in the nation… I would have got familiar absolutely easily. And then I was a four year starter as well at UCLA, bro. So I definitely would have been getting a check… for so long players were just getting taken advantage of.” — Cassius Marsh (14:29–14:43)

• On Sports Industry Politics & Careers:

  • “It’s not always about who the best player is, which is crazy.” — Cassius Marsh (17:19)
  • “The teams that consistently win…do everything better, top to bottom.” — Cassius Marsh (19:29)

• On Life after Football and Health:

  • “I think… the NFL should do is the lifetime insurance thing… you just become kind of impossible to insure.” — Cassius Marsh (22:01–22:58)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Card Game Deep Dive – Magic: The Gathering vs. Poker & Yu-Gi-Oh!
  01:21–02:12
• Trends in Sports Cards & Collecting Strategy
  03:01–04:48
• Biggest Card Flip & Pokemon Market Surge
  08:02–09:28
• Business Reflections & Store Ownership
  09:41–10:02
• NIL, Athlete Money, and College Sports Politics
  14:22–17:10
• NFL Career Length & Organizational Politics
  16:09–18:43
• MLB Guaranteed Contracts vs. NFL’s Health Struggles
  21:46–22:58
• Personal Stories, Upbringing & Mother's Day
  10:23–13:19

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Where to Find Cassius Marsh

• Instagram & TikTok: @cassiusmarsh
• Business: Cash Cards Unlimited (Instagram, TikTok, YouTube)
• Website: cashcardsunlimited.com

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Cassius’s story highlights the intersection of sports, business, and culture with honesty and practical advice for collectors and young athletes alike. The episode delivers both actionable tips and a behind-the-scenes look at the realities of competitive sports and trading card entrepreneurship.

Transcript

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[Cassius Marsh]

So long players were just getting taken advantage of. Like, you know, we didn't have. I didn't have no extra money. I didn't have, you know, I didn't have anything, bro. We were, we were literally living broke. Which is, which is fine, you know, builds character or whatever, but I think it's, it's a good thing and a bad thing for these young guys because, you know, money changes people.

[Interviewer]

So right there is a downside to making that much that young, I think too.

All right, guys, we are at cpt. Got Cassius here. He is one of the first, unfortunately, to be eliminated.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, unfortunately, man. I won like four or five hands. Like it was looking good and then I lost on a bunch of good hands. So I felt like I played a good game.

[Interviewer]

But that's how it goes.

[Cassius Marsh]

Poker is poker.

[Interviewer]

You're better at Magic the Gathering.

[Cassius Marsh]

Much better. If this was a Magic the Gathering tournament, hands down, it wouldn't have been no effort.

[Interviewer]

What's the skill to luck ratio in Magic the Gathering compared to poker? Is it more skill based?

[Cassius Marsh]

It's definitely more skill based and like knowledge based for sure.

You definitely play the numbers, like you know how to now, you know, analyze the board and all that good stuff. But yeah, it's based on like how well you play your deck. And there's, there's some interactions. It's a super complicated the game. It's even hard to talk about it really.

[Interviewer]

Is it more complicated than Yu Gi oh?

[Cassius Marsh]

Way more. I mean, Yu Gi oh, like original Yu Gi oh probably the Yu Gi oh that you think about was way simpler. It's changed now. It's come become quite complex. But magic the gatherings, by far the most like complicated and interactive game, like trading card game. Damn.

[Interviewer]

Do you like the playing aspect of magic or the collecting or both? Like, how do you view it?

[Cassius Marsh]

I like both, man. I think ever since I became like a store owner, it kind of changed my perspective on, on, on collecting. I'm a little bit I'm just more knowledgeable now. So I collect a lot more of the, the high end stuff. Like the rarer things that don't typically depreciate, they always appreciate in value. So you know, I started off as a player, became like a hardcore collector and I'm still, I'd say I'm somewhere around both. I think the game is just the funnest part or the best part about it. So I'd say I'm more of a player than a collector.

[Interviewer]

But I definitely, Yeah, I got wrecked because I was collecting all the new and that stuff crashed. Right.

[Cassius Marsh]

With the, the magic stuff.

[Interviewer]

No, with basketball and football and stuff.

[Cassius Marsh]

You know, basketball, the sports market is definitely seeing a, a trend upwards. Fanatics is doing a great job of like bringing the, the players into it. Because I think that's a weird thing about the past is that like players had no idea that the trading card industry was even a thing and like how much money people are making, like the memorabilia side of things as well.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

So sports is definitely trending upwards and it's like football and basketball are like kind of like day trading. So when you get something now, like when you get a big hit now, like you get a big time quarterback or whatever, you want to get your value out of it pretty quickly, you know, because you're betting on players and football and basketball are so one injury.

[Interviewer]

And down 20% the next day.

[Cassius Marsh]

One injury, one like mess up off the field. You know what I mean? You kind of. These guys have to keep like perfect like they have to stay perfect to like maximize the value. So you really, it's really a gamble. Baseball is more of a.

[Interviewer]

Sure.

[Cassius Marsh]

I say baseball is like blue chip stocks.

[Interviewer]

It's more like set.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. Because like their prospects, like their number one, like their top 15, top 30 prospects typically don't miss. Bro. They typically don't miss. They end up being good players. They get a lot of time and then like Shohei Ohtani, like nobody saw him coming. But if you were collecting baseball at the time, like and you got a bunch of Shohei Ohtani cards, like you're chilling. You're. Yeah, you're, you're, you're doing very well.

[Interviewer]

How much are those right now? Like a rookie PSA10 Ohtani Depends like.

[Cassius Marsh]

What, you know, how rare it is. Like you know what, what it's out of. But like you know, six figures and I'm sure there's seven figure Otani cards out there for sure. Yeah. And yeah, baseball, baseball is definitely like if you had to rank the value wise, I would go baseball, football, basketball.

[Interviewer]

Wow. As an NBA fan, that's. Yeah, I, I put a lot of money in those.

[Cassius Marsh]

Basketball though. Well, I don't know though, because basketball's got like Jordan Cards are crazy, Kobe cards are crazy.

[Interviewer]

That's where I messed up. I went too modern. I was in the hype. Like I was buying Zion John those.

[Cassius Marsh]

Because look, you see, you know, you know Zion's doing, doing things and Jaws doing things.

[Interviewer]

If I were to redo it, I would have got like Kobe, got Tim Duncan, whatever.

[Cassius Marsh]

Like Tim Duncan. Yeah. Like guys that are just like, you know, they're not gonna, you know. But yeah, the basketball, basketball is interesting. Like I said, it's like day stock. So like, you know, whoever the, the best. Like Cooper flags coming out.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

If you get a big Cooper flag hit coming up here in the next like year or so, I would, I would, I would, I would flip it. I would like wait for him to have like a big, his first big like rookie game.

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[Interviewer]

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[Cassius Marsh]

And then I put that thing on the market, get my money out of it and smart, you know.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, you got to be more calculated these days with it 100.

[Cassius Marsh]

It's like, it's like, it's like the stock market, bro.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

You know, like if you just put your money into something, you don't pay attention to it and you don't see like the shelf life and all that type of stuff, like you'll lose money.

[Interviewer]

What's the biggest come up you've had on, on a single card?

[Cassius Marsh]

That is a very good question actually.

[Interviewer]

Was it a magic card, do you think, or was it sports?

[Cassius Marsh]

That's a good question.

[Interviewer]

You don't even know.

[Cassius Marsh]

That's a good question. I, you know, I, I'm like buying and flipping so constantly now that I don't, I don't really. I mean what I will say is I bought a full playset. A playset is like in magic is, is four of a single car. So I bought a full playset of what's called Dual Lands, probably like my second year in the league. And I bought them for like really, really cheap. I think I bought them for 7 or 8k which is, you know, were they ungraded? Ungraded? Just like playable cards and like now a full playset of like Dual Lands is probably like 30, 30k. Holy 40k. Yeah, something like that.

[Interviewer]

8 to 10x.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, but that was like a one time thing and, and Magic, Magic, you can make money on the, the reserve list stuff.

[Interviewer]

Reserve list?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, every, every, every trading card has its different like they're all different markets. Pokemon is its own different market. Like modern Pokemon right now is crazy. You know, there's this Team Rocket set coming out. You know, distributors buy it for like 9, 85 90, 95 bucks. And they're going to turn around and sell it for like 400.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap. So they make 4x?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. On, on, on, on Pokemon is just insanity. Damn.

[Interviewer]

Can you even, as a store owner, can you even get access to that stuff?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, I mean, I've got to get good allocation because, you know, I've spent a lot of money with these distributors and stuff like that and I got in just in time.

[Interviewer]

Nice. So that's a good business model for you.

[Cassius Marsh]

You know, it's. It's been great, bro. I'm blessed, man, to turn a, to turn a hobby into a business and like something that I really love and I'm passionate about. Like, I've been grateful to made money playing the sport. I love football. And then, you know, got to make money playing trading cards, messing around with different cars. So I've been lucky, man.

[Interviewer]

It's like you're still a child. There's still all the things you like growing up.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I get to like, I, you know, wake up, work out, you know. We gotta go hoop.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, we gotta play, bro.

[Cassius Marsh]

We gotta go.

[Interviewer]

Are you in town tomorrow? Are dipping tonight?

[Cassius Marsh]

I'm dipping, bro. I just, I've been on, I've been on the road a lot.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, you were in Miami.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, so I'm like, you know, I want to go home. It's Mother's day on Sunday as well too. Get up out of here. Go make mom some Alaskan Kring king crab legs.

[Interviewer]

You know, H Mart just opened up here. Have you been to H Mart?

[Cassius Marsh]

Swear they got an H Mart in Vegas now. Oh, Hmart's my favorite, bro. But it's in downtown, so it's hard.

[Interviewer]

Oh, but dude, they got a king crab sale right now, so.22 a pound. I bought like £8.

[Cassius Marsh]

They make the best snacks. Their fruit's always so good.

[Interviewer]

I love H Mart's.

[Cassius Marsh]

The shout outs.

[Interviewer]

Shout out to H1.

[Cassius Marsh]

Shout outs to moms too. Happy Mother's Day, mom. I love you.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, send my mom some flowers. And getting that text from her made my whole month, you know what I mean? Like they came in today and. Yeah, it's funny how the simple things like that can just.

[Cassius Marsh]

That's all my mom wants is some flowers, spend time with her son. Yeah, I mean, that's. She's. Yeah, moms are the best, bro.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, my mom, man, single. I'm a single child. So I tore up the house, you know, I threw parties and.

[Cassius Marsh]

Oh, bro, I wouldn't dare. My mom's my Mom's scared, bro. She scared me for the longest, bro. I would have never thought. Yeah, she was strict, but, like, I was grateful to have, like, some buddies who had, like. I went to a private school. I went to Oaks Christian, so, you know, we had buddies that parents would just let you throw crazy parties at their big old, like, mansions in Westlake Village and stuff. So I was fortunate. I never had to resort to throwing parties at my mom's house. You can't hide anything in Holly Ann's house. One little. One little dirty floor here or just one thing misplaced. She sees it all.

[Interviewer]

Damn, she's sharp. She's still in the same house?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, yeah, same house I grew up in. She's still there.

[Interviewer]

Let's go. That's cool, man. What did. What did she do? What was her job?

[Cassius Marsh]

Oh, she's an escrow officer.

[Interviewer]

Escrow officer?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. She's been doing that for at least 20 years. Maybe 25 years.

[Interviewer]

Nice.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, before that she was a. A school teacher and. But I got kicked out of the school that she was teaching.

[Interviewer]

I gotta hear that story.

[Cassius Marsh]

I mean, you know, I just, like.

Honestly, to make a short. Long story short, a kid took my toy and threw it over a fence and I just. I just. I just whooped it his ass, you know? Damn. It probably wasn't terrible, but, like, you.

[Interviewer]

Know, what was a toy or like, actually, I don't.

[Cassius Marsh]

I couldn't even tell you exactly what the toy was. I just knew, like, it was mine. He threw it over the fence and I was hot and I just roughed him up and that was kind of last straw type of thing for sure.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I was attached to my. My biggest L. One of my biggest L's in life is giving away my Pokemon and Yugamon Yu Gi. Oh. Collection. Oh, my God.

[Cassius Marsh]

Do you know how many people, like, have. Have experienced that? Whether they gave it away or their parents gave it away or sold it? Garage sale crazy, bro.

[Interviewer]

Dude, that's probably worth six figures right now.

[Cassius Marsh]

Oh, I mean, I'm sure if you had.

[Interviewer]

I had charizards, I had blast toys, all the Yu Gi. Oh.

[Cassius Marsh]

If you were a real collector and you had multiples of like the start and stuff. Yeah, yeah, you definitely. You know, and the thing with Pokemon was is nobody really played with the cards. It was just like, collect.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I had it in binders.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. Put it in binders.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Because if you played with it, they weren't PSAs.

[Cassius Marsh]

You know who else had that similar experience? Bradley Martin.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Cassius Marsh]

So Bradley, a couple Years back, told me about. He had a bunch of Pokemon cards growing up. And he went to college and he was, you know, you go to college, you move from dorm. Dorm and apartment. Apartment. And he said he was walking through campus and just dumped his whole binder in like some random trash can.

[Interviewer]

Damn. Rip, bro.

[Cassius Marsh]

Rip for sure. Just throwing away like a.

[Interviewer]

Did you keep all your old stuff?

[Cassius Marsh]

I didn't, you know, I didn't grow up with a ton of money, me. And, you know, my mom definitely took care of me and was. She did the most that she could, but I didn't, I didn't. I didn't have too much to give away. Honestly. I feel that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, they were kind of expensive. Honestly.

[Cassius Marsh]

I mean, any, any extra expense when you're just trying to make it month to month is. Is something.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

Even if it's a hundred bucks on a booster box, like a hundred bucks is 100, but 100 bucks is two pairs of shoes. You know, I only got three pairs of shoes for every school year.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. Three pairs of Vans. I go to OG black and whites, the reds and the blues.

[Interviewer]

Wow. And the football cleats, too.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, cleats were a part of it too. Cleats were a part of it too.

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Man, times have changed now. They got the nil money now. You could have been making six figures.

[Cassius Marsh]

Oh, the nil stuff is crazy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's cr.

[Cassius Marsh]

I mean, I was a top. I think I was like rivals, like number 33 player in the nation or something like that.

[Interviewer]

You had been making.

[Cassius Marsh]

I would have got familiar absolutely easily.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Cassius Marsh]

And then I was a four year starter as well at ucla, bro. So I definitely would have been getting a check. But I'm so glad that it's changed now, you know, because for so long players were just getting taken advantage of. Like, you know, we didn't have. I didn't have no extra money. I didn't have, you know, I didn't have anything, bro. We were. We were literally living broke. Which is, which is fine, you know, Bill's character or whatever. But I think it's, it's a good thing and a bad thing for these young guys because, you know, money changes people. So.

[Interviewer]

Right. There is a downside to making that much that young, I think too.

[Cassius Marsh]

Absolutely. Mentally, it can, it can, it can get in the way. It can get in the way if you don't have the proper guidance.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I think it can ruin some potential because you start making a million a year at 18, you're not trying as hard sometimes.

[Cassius Marsh]

You get. I mean, it's just like, it's like when, like big time players get these, these massive contracts, you know, and sometimes, not all the time, but like, sometimes they just get comfortable, you know, they don't play as hard, they don't work as hard, you know.

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[Interviewer]

Thank you.

[Cassius Marsh]

It's scary paying paying guys a lot of money, especially with college. Like, you know, I had, I can think of a lot of like big time recruits that never panned out, you know, never even became starters. Injuries, injuries, behavioral issues, just like, you know, football, anything. You know how sports is, bro. Just all the little things they add up, dude.

[Interviewer]

Average NFL career, two years now. Is it really 2.5? Yeah, 2.2.4.

[Cassius Marsh]

I think it was 3.3 when I left.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's only getting worse because they're just cycling running backs and.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Interviewer]

I mean, they'd rather pay less than just have a younger guy.

[Cassius Marsh]

It's. Yeah, I mean, I think that's really where the league is going in general is like, if you're not like a high level starter, you know, they just go younger.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You know, because you get injured now, they'll just pick someone up, they'll drop you.

[Cassius Marsh]

It just depends on who you are, man. It depends on how, how, how special you are as a player, you know, and everything is about right system, right time, right place, especially defensively. I mean, football's a, It's a trip, bro. Sports in general, man, there's so much more involved in it than I think a lot of people, like the average person thinks, you know, a lot of politics. A lot of politics.

[Interviewer]

I mean, you learn that.

[Cassius Marsh]

I definitely learned that, bro. Like some of the best camps I ever had, like, I probably had my best camp ever with. I think it was back to back years. I had my best camp with, with Jacksonville Jaguars. And the next year I had an amazing camp with the Steelers and I ended up getting released from both those teams at one point.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Cassius Marsh]

Obviously I finished out the season with other teams, but, you know, it's. It's not always about who the best player is, which is crazy.

[Interviewer]

I wonder what they're. Did they tell you why they released you or.

[Cassius Marsh]

No, it was. They never tell you. They never give you the real like, crazy. Actually, the timing was crazy. In Jacksonville. I.

I was having like a crazy camp. I had a really good practice and one of the writers came out and said, like, oh, Cassius Marsh is, like, prime to have a Pro bowl type season. And that next week they switched my position and, like, stop giving me reps. No way.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, bro. Is that because when you make the Pro bowl, they got to pay you more? Is it similar to the NBA with.

[Cassius Marsh]

A. I think it's just like. Well, they drafted a first round defensive end in my position, and I was outplaying their current guy who was also, like a Pro bowl level type player.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

And, you know, it's just like, all about, like, you know, the way the GM looks and all that good stuff.

[Interviewer]

And, like, I didn't even think about that.

[Cassius Marsh]

Coaches have their guys. GMs have their guys. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Because they'll get fired if they make bad picks. So they want to. Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

Like, if your first round pick's not panning out, you know, then it looks bad on you.

[Interviewer]

Right. Damn. I wonder if there's a fix to that salute, because that doesn't sound optimal for the team.

[Cassius Marsh]

But it's a Jacksonville Jaguars, so it's like, It's. It's like, listen, I got a lot. I got love for Duvall. My dad played for the Jaguars on their first team ever, so it's all love. But, like, organizationally, they're. They're one of the worst, for sure.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Makes you wonder if the top teams have just more accountability. Right. Well, they just.

[Cassius Marsh]

They just, like San Francisco. They do things right. They take good care of players. You know, they. They bring in good coaches. They do. They do everything the right way. Seahawks are similar. Patriots have their own recipe as well.

[Interviewer]

It worked for a while, but now it's.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, but like, organizationally, though, like, they do the right stuff, like, in the building. They take really good player, good care of the players as far as, like, treatment, food, like, you know, giving you access to the things that you need. The Steelers were pretty good as well, but, like, the teams that consistently win, you know, like, the. Like the organizations that you look at as, like, a top organization, there's a reason for it.

[Interviewer]

They take more care of everyone.

[Cassius Marsh]

They just do everything better, top to bottom.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Do you think that partially is a money thing? Like, they have more money?

[Cassius Marsh]

I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong, but Jacksonville's owner is, like, very, very well.

[Interviewer]

Oh, yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

I don't think that he's short on funds by any means, but, like, you know, I could be wrong, but, I mean, money's always a factor in everything. Yeah. You know, who knows?

[Interviewer]

Because you look at these big, like, NBA teams and it's always like the same big market teams making the finals.

[Cassius Marsh]

How crazy it is. Is it that. Have you heard the whole conspiracy theory behind Luca?

[Interviewer]

No, which one?

[Cassius Marsh]

So there's a conspiracy theory behind Luka. The reason why they got rid of Luka is because the Dallas Mavericks new owners have been trying to move the team to Vegas. But because Dallas already has like a very strong fan base and like, you know, Dallas is a good market, they. They don't want to do it. So the theory is that the owners traded Luka to tank the team and try and basically get the team to move to Vegas.

[Interviewer]

No way.

[Cassius Marsh]

Because the cuz they want to have a cons. They want to build a casino there. The. The people who own the team are like, they own a bunch of casinos and they want to do a casino in Dallas and the city want to prove it. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. That's a theory though. That's a theory. I'm not sure.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I could. I could see it, but they still got. Who'd they get for Luca? They got A.D. so I feel like next season they'll. They won't be that bad.

[Cassius Marsh]

Well, they're not going to be terrible, but like, you trade Luca, who's a generational type of player. Yeah, he could, you know, if he loses some weight.

[Interviewer]

I could see that. And they pushed Cuban out. He's gone, right?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, yeah. And they pissed off like Dirk Nowitzki. It doesn't really mess with the organization right now. And I mean, I think. I think Cuban's still involved in some capacity minor though.

[Interviewer]

But he said on. On camera that he would never trade Luca. Yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

It was up to him.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Cassius Marsh]

Everybody was pissed about it. So like, I feel. It makes me feel like there's something there.

[Interviewer]

Damn, that's wild. Well, the Lakers had a rough playoff. Are you a Lakers fan?

[Cassius Marsh]

I am a Lakers fan, man. I put on for any team that's. That's la.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. So at least you got the MLB last year, right?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah. Dodgers. Dodgers are crushed.

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[Cassius Marsh]

Dodgers might win for the next three or four. Man, they're ridiculous.

[Interviewer]

Dude, if these guys healthy, I mean.

[Cassius Marsh]

The way that they do the contracts where they defer.

[Interviewer]

Brilliant. So smart.

[Cassius Marsh]

So smart.

[Interviewer]

Don't you wish you did that?

[Cassius Marsh]

I wish, I wish. I mean, like. But you know, the way baseball players get paid, though, is so much different. Different, bro. It's all fully guaranteed and like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Oh, it's all guaranteed.

[Cassius Marsh]

Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer]

Damn. Even if they get injured.

[Cassius Marsh]

Even if they get injured. Yeah. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Do you think more sports should do that?

[Cassius Marsh]

I mean, I think with football it's tough because the injury rate is so high. But I, I mean, as much damage as we inflict onto our bodies, particularly, I think that the one thing that the NFL should do is, Is the lifetime insurance thing. I think, you know, the. Obviously, you know, guys deserve more money and everything like that, but I think, you know, the lifetime insurance is. Is more of a thing because if you think about it like, say you're 6, 6, 3, 20. Well, after your insurance goes out and you're. And you show up, you try and get insurance with somebody, you're 6, 6, 3, 20. You're obese. Yeah, in their eyes.

[Interviewer]

On paper.

[Cassius Marsh]

On paper, you're obese. And so, like, trying to get insurance just becomes crazy expensive. And then, like, you know, say you have a bunch of injuries, you got a torn acl, you got a. A messed up shoulder. You know, you got like, you know, brain stuff, like all the seats, all the chances of cte, everything like that, you just become, you know, kind of impossible to insure. So.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Cassius Marsh]

I think if anything, you know, the NFL could definitely do more there.

[Interviewer]

I wonder what the UFC does for the. They must have.

[Cassius Marsh]

I don't. I don't think the UFC is doing. They're not doing that too much insurance wise, but I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know, we'll have to ask Colby Covington. Yeah, we'll have to ask him and see what it's looking like.

[Interviewer]

I know they go to the hospital right after their fights.

[Cassius Marsh]

He was right. I think he was at my. I think. No, Kobe Covington wasn't my table MMA guy at my table. He's a fighter. He had the cauliflower ears.

[Interviewer]

Oh, God.

[Cassius Marsh]

I didn't introduce myself.

[Interviewer]

Oh, is it Henry Cejuda?

[Cassius Marsh]

I think.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it was Henry.

[Cassius Marsh]

He was wild, bro.

[Interviewer]

No, he was bluffing. I saw his hands. He was.

[Cassius Marsh]

He was. It's all good and fun, bro. Like, I love the fighters, man. They're just always down for. To get rowdy.

[Interviewer]

I love their mindset. Yeah, society needs more of that these days.

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, for sure.

[Interviewer]

A lot of lost men these days. Well, dude, it's been cool. Where can people find you and find the shop and everything you got going on?

[Cassius Marsh]

Yeah, I mean, check me out. Cash is marsh on Tick Tock or Instagram, but my, My. My company's called Cash Cards Unlimited. You can find us on Tick Tock Instagram. We have a YouTube channel. You could also, if you're ever looking for anything trading card wise. And go tocashcard unlimited.com. and we'll take good care of you, man. Boom.

[Interviewer]

Check it out. See you guys.