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Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly

Episode: Cecilia Rae: She Says Andrew Tate Is a ‘Danger to Society’. Here’s Why... | DSH #1656
Date: December 3, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Cecilia (Ceci) Rae

Overview

This episode of Digital Social Hour brings on commentator, debater, and comedian Cecilia Rae for a raw and unfiltered discussion spanning internet controversy, the incel movement, the dangers of red pill ideology, gender politics, and pressing political events in the U.S. Rae makes bold claims about Andrew Tate’s influence, the hypocrisy of right-wing “trad” influencers, and what’s missing from the modern conversation around masculinity and society.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Andrew Tate and the “Red Pill” Movement

• Ceci’s Strong Stance: From the outset, Ceci brands Andrew Tate as a “danger to society,” citing his influence on men, alleged criminal history, and misogynistic content.
  • Quote: “I think we should put him down... He's dangerous to everyone, men, for brainwashing them to hate women. And then also... he's a human trafficker... there’s videos of him beating women with belts." (00:00–00:37, 36:15–36:44)
• Sean’s Pushback: Host Sean tries to stay neutral, mentioning Tate’s previous appearances and legal outcomes.
  • Quote: “That's an interesting take... he's been on the show, so I'm trying to be objective and not biased.” (36:44–36:51)
• Broader Claim: Ceci connects Tate with a wider trend of masculine influencers (Myron Gaines, Nick Fuentes) monetizing insecurity among young men.

2. Incels, Online Communities, and Men’s Issues

• Incel Movement: Discussion on “incel” (involuntarily celibate) terminology and communities, blaming red pill podcasts for fueling misogyny and hopelessness.
  • Quote: “This incel movement is actually dangerous... the red pill podcasters are smart enough... where men thought they were being validated, but they’re actually being validated in the shitty feelings they already had about themselves.” (05:28–06:45)
• Ceci’s Counter-program: Announces upcoming YouTube show “Get Some: Intel for Incels,” offering men a safe space for advice with input from therapists and life coaches.
  • Quote: “I want to monetize the healing, you know... I just think men need a place that they can open up without shame.” (06:46–07:30, 11:45–11:55)

3. Dating Norms & Gender Roles

• Online Dating & Sex Trends: Ceci debunks narratives about women’s sexual activity, asserting the CDC’s reported decrease in average number of sexual partners.
  • Quote: “This whole movement of girls are sleeping around is just BS... We’re having less sex.” (03:31–03:34)
• Hypocrisy Among Influencers: Calls out figures like Andrew Wilson for espousing standards they themselves do not live by.
  • Quote: “But he preaches to men basically to stay away from the wife that he has. Like, don't marry women with high body counts. Don't marry a woman who's had kids or marriages before... the type of woman you married.” (02:19–02:51)

4. Approaches to Debate, Social Change, and Comedy

• Debate Style: Ceci uses comedy (“drop a joke in between”) to keep debates engaging, targets convincing the audience rather than opponents.
  • Quote: “I try to make it fun... you try to keep it fun, at least for the viewers.” (15:33–15:41)
• Handling Criticism: Ceci says she no longer takes online hate personally, instead seeing it as engagement that helps her platform.
  • Quote: “Thank you for the engagement. Xo.” (21:22–21:23)

5. Personal Development & Coping Skills

• Overcoming Depression: Ceci’s journey with mental health, using stand-up comedy as therapy.
  • Quote: “I was like, I've always wanted to try stand up. I'm just gonna go do stand up before I kill myself... And it just became a thing.” (14:13–15:34)
• Tony Robbins Conference: Attending a Tony Robbins event provided practical tools for self-improvement, which Ceci plans to use to help others.
  • Quote: “He's got worksheets... I'm also going to use for the incels. Because it was really, really easy stuff...” (13:38–14:13)

6. Political Hot Topics

• Feminism & Power: Criticizes Candace Owens for championing anti-feminism while benefiting from its gains.
  • Quote: “I'm glad feminism worked for you, but feminism is why you're here, you know what I mean?” (16:52–17:01)
• Hypocrisy & Political Parties: Critiques both Republican and Democratic corruption over issues like pedophilia, children’s welfare, and veterans’ benefits.
  • Quote: “This is the party. The Republican Party... They're also the ones who will cut your veterans benefits and cut your SNAP benefits for your children, force women to have babies but then not want to help feed the baby.” (31:04–31:13)

7. U.S. Politics, Abortion, and Human Rights

• Trump’s Policies & Hypocrisy: Touches on economics, cuts to benefits, punitive action against immigrants and women, and his authoritarian tendencies.
  • Quote: “Trump’s going to sell us off piece by piece... Like, he's going to, he's a traitor. Yeah, he's a traitor.” (40:34–40:46)
• Abortion Laws: Ceci highlights the severity of abortion bans in red states, the hypocrisy of “pro-life” Texas with high execution rates, and viral church experiments on helping mothers.
  • Quote: “There's a 10 year old in Ohio raped by her father. She had to go to a different state because they denied her one.” (34:02–34:07)

8. Wealth Inequality & Class Solidarity

• Anti-Billionaire Rant: Argues working-class frustration is misdirected at the vulnerable, blames billionaires for economic woes, underscores tax avoidance by corporations.
  • Quote: “It's the billionaires because they don't pay their fair share in taxes, period.” (44:01–44:12)
• ‘Trad Wife’ Fantasy: Explains the impossibility of living on one income now compared to the 1950s due to lack of wealth distribution.

9. Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “The incel movement is actually dangerous... I want to monetize the healing.” (05:28–06:46)
• “If you hate women, you like hate us... he genuinely dislikes us. He looks at women as like this other that is just supposed to serve.” (28:32–28:41, re: Andrew Wilson)
• “Thank you for the engagement. Xo.” (21:22–21:23)
• “Pedophilia should not be politicized. Whether you're blue, red, left, right. You can't politicize pedophilia. Anyone on that list needs to be... [arrested].” (35:21–36:06)
• “If I had the kid, would you be making more money, Sean? Would you have a bigger house? Would you have not gotten married? No. It doesn't matter. It doesn't affect you.” (32:51–33:07, on abortion critics)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening Andrew Tate Statement: 00:00–00:37
• Incel/Red Pill Commentary: 05:02–07:30
• Online Dating & Sex Stats: 03:31–04:28
• Debate Style & Comedy: 15:33–16:15
• Candace Owens/Feminism: 16:20–17:20
• Trump, Economics, and Immigration: 29:01–31:15
• Abortion, Red States Policy: 33:09–34:19
• Pedophilia & Political Corruption: 35:15–36:44
• Class War & Wealth Inequality: 43:19–44:14

Conclusion

Ceci Rae brings fearless candor to this episode, unapologetically targeting both left and right-wing hypocrisies and “alpha male” influencers whom she says endanger social progress and individual well-being. With humor and personal storytelling, she advocates for compassion, introspection, and collective responsibility—while calling out what she sees as performative or outright harmful public figures. Her upcoming projects focus on reaching and helping young, disaffected men—“intel for incels”—aiming to replace toxic validation with genuine healing and growth.

The dialogue is fast, irreverent, and often provocative, offering a sweeping and deeply opinionated diagnosis of America’s social fractures—and some pointed ideas for how to start repairing them.