Digital Social Hour – Episode Summary

Clayton Lisy: He Saw Aliens at Santa Monica Pier… and Has Video Proof | DSH #1643

Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Clayton Lisy

Episode Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with multifaceted artist and producer Clayton Lisy for a candid conversation that blurs the lines between the controversial and the cosmic. From Hollywood’s dark underbelly and political hypocrisies to personal philosophies and an in-depth retelling of an alien encounter at Santa Monica Pier, nothing is left untouched. Expect bold opinions, surreal tangents, and genuine moments of vulnerability—all while challenging what “truth” even means in our society.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Life Updates and Personal Habits

• New Puppy: Clayton reveals he bought a new puppy on a whim from Amish breeders, leading into a discussion on the Amish lifestyle and electronic use (03:25–04:25).
• IQ & Technology: Both discuss tech’s impact on attention span and intelligence. Sean’s IQ dropped significantly over a few years, which he attributes to phone use (04:47–05:16).

"I took an IQ test a few months ago, and my score was like 20 points lower than it used to be... I just felt dumber as I was taking the test." — Sean, 04:54

2. Reflections on Education, Cheating, and AI

• Clayton recounts how he "cheated graciously" in school, never aiming for perfect scores to avoid suspicion (05:24–06:13).
• Discussion on how cheating is easier now but expresses skepticism about AI’s reliability, especially regarding music and live events (06:27–06:47).

"AI is wrong a lot of the time about music... it sends me to wrong places, fucks up on shit, doesn’t know." — Clayton, 06:27

3. The State of Sports and Culture

• Clayton critiques the evolution of the NBA, claiming it’s become less exciting and lacks clear superstar personalities (08:03–09:32).
• Conversation turns to nostalgia for more intense rivalries and player drama.

4. Hypocrisy and Nuance in Politics and Society

• Both criticize political partisanship and virtue signaling, especially in liberal circles in LA (16:21–17:52).
• Clayton points out the racism and segregation still prevalent in supposedly progressive areas.

"California is one of the most racist states... all these liberal people... if a Black person’s just walking down the street, everybody’s looking." — Clayton, 17:52

5. Pendulum and Cyclical Nature of Society

• Clayton views societal trends as pendulum swings—regarding progress, morality, and political movements (14:58–15:26).
• Expresses hope that things will get so bad they’re forced to reset.

6. Questioning Historical Narratives

• Both challenge the black-and-white portrayals of historical figures like FDR, Andrew Jackson, and Lincoln, underlining the complexity and selective storytelling of history (21:00–24:17).

"We’ve had a really fucked up kind of last 100 so years... you’re not going to win somebody over with hate no matter what you do." — Clayton, 21:30

7. The Charlie Kirk Shooting and Security

• Both express dismay that shooting and violence are responses to disagreement, debate whether gun control is a real solution, and hint at inside information regarding recent political violence (26:20–29:32).

"If you can’t find something that you agree with with everybody, you’re not opening your mind." — Clayton, 26:21

8. Hollywood, Blackmail, and Elite Scandals

• Clayton shares his firsthand experiences in Hollywood, including encounters with ritualistic practices, Moloch worship, and the pervasive use of blackmail at the highest levels (34:33–39:27).
• Discusses the use of sexual blackmail for control in both politics and entertainment industries.

"I’ve been at a party, walked in the wrong room, and seen people worshiping Moloch and shit like that. That shit’s real." — Clayton, 34:33
"If you see a celebrity in an election video... they probably all fuck kids. They got blackmail on them." — Clayton, 38:32

9. Trauma, Mental Health, and Mind Control

• Clayton reveals passing a psychological evaluation after being suspended for a gun-related issue and details his experiences with hypnotherapy—erasing emotional triggers and anxiety (31:33–33:06).
• Discussion on possibilities of memory alteration, MK Ultra parallels, and government-implanted hypnotherapists.

10. Spirituality, Gnosticism, and Religion

• Clayton identifies as a Gnostic, explains his theology about the demiurge, and argues most mainstream religions worship a false god (45:07–48:36).
• Intriguing advice: "When you die, don’t go toward the light..." (46:19).

"Most people pray to the demiurge, which is essentially a false god." — Clayton, 45:55
"When you die, don’t go towards the light... that reincarnates you." — Clayton, 46:23

11. Energies, Possession, and the Paranormal

• Accounts of seances, psychic scams, gypsy psychics, and mystical phenomena like faces shifting or feeling possessed (51:32–54:07).
• Clayton humorously suspects he may be "possessed," but shrugs it off: "If I do, I’m doing fine." (52:32).

12. Alien Encounter at Santa Monica Pier

(STARTS: 65:05)

• Clayton vividly recounts witnessing “squid-shaped” UFOs near Santa Monica Pier. Describes seeing them blink in and out, moving in ways impossible for machines or kites—he even filmed it, though the video is blurry.
• Believes there’s a portal or base off the coast, references NASA’s mysterious presence on Santa Monica Beach (67:49–68:17).

"I see like, what appears to be... a squid kite... moving with these tentacles... and they start to circle... blinking in and out, disappearing." — Clayton, 66:14
"There’s a portal right off of Santa Monica... it’s underwater and it comes up." — Clayton, 67:49

• Speculates that these beings may not be extraterrestrial but are possibly ancient, interdimensional, or from inner Earth. Believes “disclosure” is near (69:53–71:07).

13. On Social Control and Influence

• Discusses the pressure to manufacture or hide scandals in entertainment and politics, and the power of information warfare.

14. Manipulation, Doing Good, and Moral Ambiguity

• Embraces “walking the Twilight path”—balancing good and evil; believes some manipulation is necessary to create opportunities to do good (57:36–58:05).
• Notes direct involvement in charitable acts, especially for underprivileged Black youth in LA.

15. Gut Instincts, Consciousness, and the Soul

• The hosts debate the origin of gut feelings, with Sean calling the gut a “second brain” and Clayton relating inspiration and creativity to a higher power, or “stream of consciousness” (72:44–63:22).

"If I want to make a song... I’ll just sit there with a guitar, completely zone out, and then all of a sudden it’ll just give me a song." — Clayton, 63:10

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you can’t find something that you agree with with everybody, you’re not opening your mind." — Clayton, 26:21
• "If you see a celebrity in an election video... they probably all fuck kids." — Clayton, 38:32
• "When you die, don’t go towards the light... that reincarnates you." — Clayton, 46:23
• "I’ve been at a party, walked in the wrong room, and seen people worshiping Moloch... that shit’s real." — Clayton, 34:33
• "AI is wrong a lot of the time about music... it fucks up all the time." — Clayton, 06:27
• "I see like... a squid kite... moving with these tentacles... they start to circle... blinking in and out, disappearing." — Clayton, 66:14

Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Life updates, Amish puppies | 03:25–04:25 | | IQ decline: Phones and attention | 04:47–05:16 | | Cheating in school & AI’s limitations | 05:24–06:47 | | NBA, sports nostalgia, & culture | 08:03–09:32 | | Political hypocrisy in LA | 16:21–17:52 | | Pendulum of society, hope for reset | 14:58–15:26 | | History as selective storytelling | 21:00–24:17 | | Charlie Kirk shooting & politics | 26:20–29:32 | | Hypnotherapy, mind control, MK Ultra | 31:33–33:06 | | Hollywood, Moloch, and blackmail | 34:33–39:27 | | Gnostic beliefs; demiurge and reincarnation | 45:07–48:36 | | Spiritual energies, possession, seances | 51:32–54:07 | | Alien encounter at Santa Monica Pier | 65:05–71:07 | | Gut instinct and creative "downloads" | 72:44–63:22 | | Album/singles release talk | 71:57–72:29 |

Tone & Vibe

The conversation is self-consciously unfiltered, moving from playful absurdity (“I wouldn’t be able to sit here comfortably shifting in my seat...” — 34:37) to sharp political critique and moments of real vulnerability. Both speakers riff with a blend of irreverence, dark humor, and raw honesty.

Conclusion

This episode dives deep and wild—Clayton Lisy gives listeners a journey through secret societies, government conspiracies, mind-bending spirituality, and a personal brush with the unexplained, all wrapped in a tone that’s both daring and disarming. If you’re looking for conventional wisdom, look elsewhere. If you want cultural taboos, UFOs, occult confessionals, and raw candor, this is your pod.