Clayton Lisy: He Saw Aliens at Santa Monica Pier… and Has Video Proof | DSH #1643

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Clayton Lisy: He Saw Aliens at Santa Monica Pier… and Has Video Proof | DSH #1643

Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Clayton Lisy

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with multifaceted artist and producer Clayton Lisy for a candid conversation that blurs the lines between the controversial and the cosmic. From Hollywood’s dark underbelly and political hypocrisies to personal philosophies and an in-depth retelling of an alien encounter at Santa Monica Pier, nothing is left untouched. Expect bold opinions, surreal tangents, and genuine moments of vulnerability—all while challenging what “truth” even means in our society.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Life Updates and Personal Habits

• New Puppy: Clayton reveals he bought a new puppy on a whim from Amish breeders, leading into a discussion on the Amish lifestyle and electronic use (03:25–04:25).
• IQ & Technology: Both discuss tech’s impact on attention span and intelligence. Sean’s IQ dropped significantly over a few years, which he attributes to phone use (04:47–05:16).

"I took an IQ test a few months ago, and my score was like 20 points lower than it used to be... I just felt dumber as I was taking the test." — Sean, 04:54

2. Reflections on Education, Cheating, and AI

• Clayton recounts how he "cheated graciously" in school, never aiming for perfect scores to avoid suspicion (05:24–06:13).
• Discussion on how cheating is easier now but expresses skepticism about AI’s reliability, especially regarding music and live events (06:27–06:47).

"AI is wrong a lot of the time about music... it sends me to wrong places, fucks up on shit, doesn’t know." — Clayton, 06:27

3. The State of Sports and Culture

• Clayton critiques the evolution of the NBA, claiming it’s become less exciting and lacks clear superstar personalities (08:03–09:32).
• Conversation turns to nostalgia for more intense rivalries and player drama.

4. Hypocrisy and Nuance in Politics and Society

• Both criticize political partisanship and virtue signaling, especially in liberal circles in LA (16:21–17:52).
• Clayton points out the racism and segregation still prevalent in supposedly progressive areas.

"California is one of the most racist states... all these liberal people... if a Black person’s just walking down the street, everybody’s looking." — Clayton, 17:52

5. Pendulum and Cyclical Nature of Society

• Clayton views societal trends as pendulum swings—regarding progress, morality, and political movements (14:58–15:26).
• Expresses hope that things will get so bad they’re forced to reset.

6. Questioning Historical Narratives

• Both challenge the black-and-white portrayals of historical figures like FDR, Andrew Jackson, and Lincoln, underlining the complexity and selective storytelling of history (21:00–24:17).

"We’ve had a really fucked up kind of last 100 so years... you’re not going to win somebody over with hate no matter what you do." — Clayton, 21:30

7. The Charlie Kirk Shooting and Security

• Both express dismay that shooting and violence are responses to disagreement, debate whether gun control is a real solution, and hint at inside information regarding recent political violence (26:20–29:32).

"If you can’t find something that you agree with with everybody, you’re not opening your mind." — Clayton, 26:21

8. Hollywood, Blackmail, and Elite Scandals

• Clayton shares his firsthand experiences in Hollywood, including encounters with ritualistic practices, Moloch worship, and the pervasive use of blackmail at the highest levels (34:33–39:27).
• Discusses the use of sexual blackmail for control in both politics and entertainment industries.

"I’ve been at a party, walked in the wrong room, and seen people worshiping Moloch and shit like that. That shit’s real." — Clayton, 34:33
"If you see a celebrity in an election video... they probably all fuck kids. They got blackmail on them." — Clayton, 38:32

9. Trauma, Mental Health, and Mind Control

• Clayton reveals passing a psychological evaluation after being suspended for a gun-related issue and details his experiences with hypnotherapy—erasing emotional triggers and anxiety (31:33–33:06).
• Discussion on possibilities of memory alteration, MK Ultra parallels, and government-implanted hypnotherapists.

10. Spirituality, Gnosticism, and Religion

• Clayton identifies as a Gnostic, explains his theology about the demiurge, and argues most mainstream religions worship a false god (45:07–48:36).
• Intriguing advice: "When you die, don’t go toward the light..." (46:19).

"Most people pray to the demiurge, which is essentially a false god." — Clayton, 45:55
"When you die, don’t go towards the light... that reincarnates you." — Clayton, 46:23

11. Energies, Possession, and the Paranormal

• Accounts of seances, psychic scams, gypsy psychics, and mystical phenomena like faces shifting or feeling possessed (51:32–54:07).
• Clayton humorously suspects he may be "possessed," but shrugs it off: "If I do, I’m doing fine." (52:32).

12. Alien Encounter at Santa Monica Pier

(STARTS: 65:05)

• Clayton vividly recounts witnessing “squid-shaped” UFOs near Santa Monica Pier. Describes seeing them blink in and out, moving in ways impossible for machines or kites—he even filmed it, though the video is blurry.
• Believes there’s a portal or base off the coast, references NASA’s mysterious presence on Santa Monica Beach (67:49–68:17).

"I see like, what appears to be... a squid kite... moving with these tentacles... and they start to circle... blinking in and out, disappearing." — Clayton, 66:14
"There’s a portal right off of Santa Monica... it’s underwater and it comes up." — Clayton, 67:49

• Speculates that these beings may not be extraterrestrial but are possibly ancient, interdimensional, or from inner Earth. Believes “disclosure” is near (69:53–71:07).

13. On Social Control and Influence

• Discusses the pressure to manufacture or hide scandals in entertainment and politics, and the power of information warfare.

14. Manipulation, Doing Good, and Moral Ambiguity

• Embraces “walking the Twilight path”—balancing good and evil; believes some manipulation is necessary to create opportunities to do good (57:36–58:05).
• Notes direct involvement in charitable acts, especially for underprivileged Black youth in LA.

15. Gut Instincts, Consciousness, and the Soul

• The hosts debate the origin of gut feelings, with Sean calling the gut a “second brain” and Clayton relating inspiration and creativity to a higher power, or “stream of consciousness” (72:44–63:22).

"If I want to make a song... I’ll just sit there with a guitar, completely zone out, and then all of a sudden it’ll just give me a song." — Clayton, 63:10

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you can’t find something that you agree with with everybody, you’re not opening your mind." — Clayton, 26:21
• "If you see a celebrity in an election video... they probably all fuck kids." — Clayton, 38:32
• "When you die, don’t go towards the light... that reincarnates you." — Clayton, 46:23
• "I’ve been at a party, walked in the wrong room, and seen people worshiping Moloch... that shit’s real." — Clayton, 34:33
• "AI is wrong a lot of the time about music... it fucks up all the time." — Clayton, 06:27
• "I see like... a squid kite... moving with these tentacles... they start to circle... blinking in and out, disappearing." — Clayton, 66:14

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Life updates, Amish puppies | 03:25–04:25 | | IQ decline: Phones and attention | 04:47–05:16 | | Cheating in school & AI’s limitations | 05:24–06:47 | | NBA, sports nostalgia, & culture | 08:03–09:32 | | Political hypocrisy in LA | 16:21–17:52 | | Pendulum of society, hope for reset | 14:58–15:26 | | History as selective storytelling | 21:00–24:17 | | Charlie Kirk shooting & politics | 26:20–29:32 | | Hypnotherapy, mind control, MK Ultra | 31:33–33:06 | | Hollywood, Moloch, and blackmail | 34:33–39:27 | | Gnostic beliefs; demiurge and reincarnation | 45:07–48:36 | | Spiritual energies, possession, seances | 51:32–54:07 | | Alien encounter at Santa Monica Pier | 65:05–71:07 | | Gut instinct and creative "downloads" | 72:44–63:22 | | Album/singles release talk | 71:57–72:29 |

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Tone & Vibe

The conversation is self-consciously unfiltered, moving from playful absurdity (“I wouldn’t be able to sit here comfortably shifting in my seat...” — 34:37) to sharp political critique and moments of real vulnerability. Both speakers riff with a blend of irreverence, dark humor, and raw honesty.

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Conclusion

This episode dives deep and wild—Clayton Lisy gives listeners a journey through secret societies, government conspiracies, mind-bending spirituality, and a personal brush with the unexplained, all wrapped in a tone that’s both daring and disarming. If you’re looking for conventional wisdom, look elsewhere. If you want cultural taboos, UFOs, occult confessionals, and raw candor, this is your pod.

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[A]

All right, guys, got Clayton back on the show. Look at the alpha this time, man. That, that hat is very cool. I've never seen something like that. Thanks for coming back on, man.

[B]

Yeah, I appreciate you having me.

[A]

Where'd you get that hat at?

[B]

H. Lorenzo in la? I got like the best clothes.

[A]

Nice. Yeah, you like wearing custom stuff, right?

[B]

That or just like one off stuff. So they and a lot of like the basketball and football players go there. So it's like. Yeah, it's, you know, kind of, you know, being, you already know, being taller, it's just like, it's tough.

[A]

Yeah. I gotta get a suit for Steve Aoki's event Sunday, but I, I can't get like just walk in and buy suit. I gotta buy a custom suit. It's like triple the price. Yeah. Sucks.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah, so I don't know if I'll be able to do that in two days. We'll see.

[B]

Somebody probably can.

[A]

You Think so, yeah.

[B]

Somebody probably can.

[A]

Hopefully. Hopefully, man. What's new with you, though, man? It's been a few months since I've seen you. You've been busy.

[B]

Yeah, busy with a lot of stuff. Got a new puppy. So busy with that.

[A]

Was that planned or just kind of spur the moment?

[B]

I just saw online I bought it.

[A]

From the Amish people.

[B]

Or Amish.

[A]

That's where I got mine.

[B]

Really? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, they're good at breeding dogs, man.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, they're really good because they don't. They have all this farmland, you know, so the dogs are just running around.

[B]

Yeah. That's crazy. I seen. How do. How do Amish get away with, like, making, like, electronic shit? Because remember, Amish were making, like, those, like, portable, like, heaters or some shit.

[A]

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[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. It's an interesting lifestyle. I don't know if I could do it.

[B]

I mean, probably not now, but if you started off that way, I feel like, you know.

[A]

Yeah. I guess if I didn't know what was out there, it'd be more achievable.

[B]

It might be even more relaxing because I feel like, I don't know, just being on the phone and then going back and then, like, scrolling through your phone. It's like, fun because sometimes you see somebody, like, fall down or like, you know. Yeah, that kind of thing. But then, like, just seeing that, it's Just like. I don't know. I feel, like, dumber.

[A]

I'm definitely dumber. I took an IQ test a few months ago, and my score was, like, 20 points lower than it used to be.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, I used to be 130, like.

[B]

And it was 20 points low.

[A]

I scored, like, 107.

[B]

Maybe just for having an off day.

[A]

I don't know. Even if it was an off day, I literally felt dumber as I was taking the test. I felt like my attention span was shot because when I was. When we were in school, like, we could lock in when we wanted to, I think. But now with the phones, it's like, I'm lost.

[B]

I just cheated, to be honest. But, yeah, I mean, like, I never cheated. Never once.

[A]

Not a single time. Maybe on some homework, but not on a test.

[B]

Oh, in, like, college. In. In high school, like, especially college. Like, I just went and, like, in Florida, you could tell them, like, oh, I have adhd. And then they just give you, like, Adderall and, like, Vyvanse and they gave me prescriptions, and I would just, like, enterprise it to the rest of the team of football because it make people catch better.

[A]

Wow. But.

[B]

And then basically just they would let me take the test in the library. But I would be a gracious cheater because I would not cheat to get, like, a hundred. I would cheat to get, like, an 89. You know, like, I would get good grades, but I would, like, I would, like, cheat to the point where they're like, you know, quality cheating.

[A]

They couldn't tell. Yeah, because you were getting a couple wrong on purpose.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

That's smart. Because if you got hundreds, they would have known.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You got to cheat the right way.

[A]

Now with. I bet it's so easy to cheat.

[B]

I think so. But I feel like they know.

[A]

I don't know, because think about it. If you're taking a test, you just pop your phone on your thigh, look up the question, Boom.

[B]

But AI is wrong a lot of the time about music. Shit, the AI is stupid as fuck.

[A]

Really.

[B]

It fucks up all the time. It sends me to wrong places, fucks up on shit, doesn't know, tells me to buy the wrong gear. Then I look it up, and I'm like, that's not the gear that I needed. And they're like, oh, you're right. My bad. Like, so it doesn't understand music stuff at all.

[A]

It is wrong. I was at the Canelo fight, and I looked up, like, what my ticket got access to. It said, I Could go on some club and I tried. It didn't work. The Winfield Club.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How was the fight?

[A]

It was nuts. That was the first boxing fight I've ever been to, so I didn't know what to expect. I don't really like boxing, to be honest. But just the people there were pretty quality people, I'd say. Yeah, it was worth it.

[B]

Seemed like everybody in the whole world was there.

[A]

Yeah, I was shocked because I bought tickets, like, literally 30 minutes before the fight.

[B]

Were they expensive or not?

[A]

8,000.

[B]

8,000?

[A]

Yeah. A seat is for the floor seat. Yeah.

[B]

Crazy, but worth it.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, James Harden was right in front of me. Met Draymond Green. Met a bunch of people, so. Got a couple guests out of it.

[B]

Got it from those Draymond Green hands.

[A]

He's got big ass hands, right?

[B]

Nah, he's known to give people the nut checks.

[A]

You watch a lot of hoops?

[B]

Well, I just. I watch enough. I watch enough to know, man, I would want. Wouldn't want to play. I would wear a cup if I had to play against Draymond Green.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No offense to him, you know, I.

[A]

Think he kicked some people in the nuts. I don't know if it was his hands.

[B]

Oh, he's done both.

[A]

Oh, both.

[B]

Yeah. He gets a little. He gets a little, you know, rambunctious out there. Damn.

[A]

I don't watch too much basketball anymore. I used to.

[B]

It's gotten, like. It's gotten weird. Like, it's. It's not the same game. It's like. It's like positionless a little bit. So he's just like. It's just. It's not the same game. Yeah, it was a little bit more exciting like 10 years ago, just with the matchups and stuff. And there's not really, like. I know. Controversial. That people like him, hate him or whatever. There's not really like a new. There's a lot of good young talent, but there's not a new, like LeBron. There's not a new guy that we can look to and be like, this is for sure the best. There's not a new Steph Curry. There's people who are really good, but there's not people who are like, they're just different. And, like, watching people like that, you're like, okay, even Damian Lillard or anything. Those people are just so exciting, you know, where you take, like, Shea Gilder's Alexander, like, no offense to him. His game is so boring. Like, yeah, it's like, you watch it just like, fuck. How did he even get like 25 and 12. Like, you're just like, damn. Like, this is like. It's like he'll do it, but you won't even notice it. And he just. He's just smooth. He's a great player. And no disrespect to him, everything is just like. It's just boring as fuck. Like, that Finals, I think was one of the worst, like, watched finals. And it just. I don't know. They need to do something with the NBA. They lean to bring back, like. I don't know. They just. It's like they use, like, players used to fight. They used to hate each other, used to talk like, you know, like, was it Kevin Garnett when Tim Duncan's mother died? Was like, happy Mother's Day.

[A]

Holy.

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And like that. We need a little bit more of that, though. You know, we're like. Because like that, like, creates that rivalry. It's fun.

[A]

I agree. But I also think the refs kind of don't let the players talk like that anymore. No, they'll give them a techn foul.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

Yeah, you can't even scream after you dunk. You'll get a tech for that. Isn't that wild?

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Like, dunking is a very honestly, emotional thing. Like, if you're dunking on someone, your energy levels are like, for sure, you.

[B]

Know, I don't really have ups like that on someone. Maybe without them there. Like rim grays. Back in the day, I'd be worried about coming down. I'd probably pull a groin at this point. Yeah, I've. I jumped out of a ambulance in a music video. Two feet. I had to like, walk off, you know?

[A]

Was it moving or just.

[B]

It wasn't moving. It just was like, you know when you jump down and you just feel that. Right. I don't know. It's like the solar plexus of your body. It's like right in between your balls and your ass. And it's like just a solar plexus. Like, it's like a part of your body shouldn't exist. We should just be straight balls to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like. Like that part of your body. Like.

[A]

Oh, yeah. There's a name for that part.

[B]

I don't know what it is, but that part is like the. Like, if you punch somebody there, they would die. Like, I'm pretty sure it's a very.

[A]

Tender part of the body. Right.

[B]

Yeah. It shouldn't exist.

[A]

Well, I wonder why it does.

[B]

Probably. So your balls don't get dirty. Yeah, I know. Like, I think that's probably what. Would it make sense? Because you can't. You can't. Like, you'd be on your own balls.

[A]

True.

[B]

I wouldn't, you know. Yeah.

[A]

I guess the body's designed in a very specific way, right?

[B]

We'd like to think so. Some of this could be by mistake.

[A]

Yeah. Some people have audi belly buttons. You know what that is? You don't know what that is?

[B]

No.

[A]

So, like, your belly button goes in, right?

[B]

I believe so.

[A]

Okay. So some people have the skin hanging out of the hole.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I don't think that's.

[A]

And there's vaginas like that too.

[B]

Well, yeah, but that's. I think they can correct that.

[A]

Yeah, there's a. I think there's a surgery for that.

[B]

Yeah, that's. Because that just, you know, that's bad presentation.

[A]

I mean, I feel bad because they're just born with it, but.

[B]

Yeah. But then, you know, rumors start, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's all it takes is one person seeing it and it gets out there, you know?

[A]

How's that happen to you?

[B]

What rumors about what? Like having a loose vagina. Not me personally.

[A]

No. Like, you ran into a girl and.

[B]

I've seen enough that definitely you. You know, you see all shapes and sizes where you're like, yeah, you know, whatever. But it's just. You can't really discriminate, you know, in a sense. You gotta, like, kind of have to get it how you live it, you know? Yeah. Like. Or get in where you fit in, you know, it's like, I think, you know, like, you can't. To me, it's like. Because the chances are unless a woman, you know, is out there showing all their kibbles and bits to the world, you know, you don't really. You're not gonna really see a woman's vagina before you have sex with her. Ideally not. Right. Like a little mystery, you know, like, let's see what's what, you know, kind of like, you know, now there's a lot less mystery, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. These days, with the only fans movement and the feminist movement, it's.

[B]

I don't see how those two are tied. But, I mean, I. That's the thing that trips me out.

[A]

You don't think they're tied?

[B]

I think they are, but I think it shows. Like, to me, you think, like, that would be everything that feminist movement would be against because it's about trying to create, like, an equal platform for men. Right. Or for women and men. Right. And if you just tell women, okay, they're only good for their bodies. Right. Then you're kind of like, anti feminist in a sense. So to me, only fans is an anti feminist. So I would almost consider myself. I think I'm. I'm for. I'm for feminist movement. I want. I think, like. Like, a woman could do something, you know? Yeah. Who's to say they couldn't? I mean, like, you know, a lot of time they don't because we set the bar lower. And then happens, like, you know, it's like, if you just tell a woman, oh, she's just good because she's pretty or she's just good for her body or whatever, then boom. That's like, you know, that's so.

[A]

But interesting time Duran. I don't know. I had on an only fans girl who was a feminist, so I was, like, trying to get my head around it. I think the feminist movement has kind of warped over time as well.

[B]

Maybe she's just on drugs, to be honest.

[A]

She could be like.

[B]

Because I know a lot of the only fans girls, they just. They go crazy.

[A]

You got to numb the pain, right?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, they're like. Like, I knew a porn star that, like, was top, like, 25 on Pornhub, and she would, like, text me and. And she would just be like, I don't want to do this shoot. So I cut myself and show me all the cuts, and I'm just like, you got the wrong number.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

Like, I'm. I'm sorry, but I cannot help you with this. And then she would just be, like, blasting Kid Cudi on Oxycontin. And. And I was just, like, cutting herself. And I'm just like, yo, this is. And this was like seven years ago or something. And I was like, man, I hope this is just a phase for the world. But it just seemed to get worse and worse.

[A]

I feel like it's gotten really bad. I don't know if it could get any worse.

[B]

Oh, it can get worse. And it will.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

I think it will get worse in the next couple years, and then it will be so bad that it will break. Like, that's the way I think things go. Like, it's like a tire swing. Like, it's swing one way, then it swing back the other way. It's just like, that's why you see, like, with politics, like, you'll see one politician will be one way, and then, boom, will swing really hard the other way. Because people put so hard one way that it swings Back the other way. So life's like, all that stuff's the same.

[A]

Yeah. It's a pendulum, right?

[B]

Yeah. So it just. It balances itself out. Like, you know, the. I mean, especially even with politics, Like, a lot of people don't understand, like, our political system was made so laws don't get passed. So stuff like the founding fathers basically didn't want shit to. They wanted as few laws as possible. They wanted the perception of laws, so they wanted as few laws as possible. I knew this because I was throwing an ap. Government politics on, like, you know, more nerdy kids are. The people are like, why would they make this? Like, teachers, like, oh, they make a system of checks and balances and all this stuff. And, you know, I was always the best at raising my hand. And they're like, yeah, why? Why would they make it hard to pass laws and have different politics and all this, like, grind against each other? And. And I'm just like, because they didn't want to get passed. It's like, right answer. But don't, you know, raise your hand. I'm like, all right.

[A]

You know, but it is a very complicated system to get something past these days.

[B]

But that's. That's what they want because they knew that we would do, like. Like, trust me. Like, they, like, those dudes are perceptive. Like, you could say, oh, they got slaves, them all this. Yeah. Like. Like, half these wouldn't have slaves if that was around today. I hear the way people talk about other people. It's crazy. Like, I'm for all people. So I hear when people talk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And a lot of the time, like, I'll hear how the way people talk about other races when they think they're not around all kinds of. And I'll just be like, yeah. They're saying, you wouldn't have. I don't know, you sound. And it'll be liberal people. It'll be right wing people. What I'll say about right wing people, when they are more, like, racially charged or some. They're more open with it. The liberal people always feel like they're, like, doing right, and they always kind of try to disguise it, but then they'll. They'll be like, they'll be worse, bro. A lot of the time, I'm not gonna lie, they're pretty racist. Like, the area that I live in, like, if, like a black person just walking, like, down the street. It's a nice area in Los Angeles. Everybody's looking like. And so it's crazy. Like, and it's Just the dude could be in a suit, and they're just like. I know this because security guards will pull up to my house. I could just see, like, my neighbors kind of, like, looking at them like this. I'm like, bro, they're here to do a job. Professional guys, they're probably more trustworthy than any of y'. All. Not even. Probably. Definitely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's like, at the same time, it's like, you know, the stereotype of that. It still exists. And these are all liberal people in, you know, in California and stuff. But the California is one of the most racist states. That's what it. Like. Like, I always tell people, like, oh, they're like, oh, all this with all. And that's so. That's why I, like, a lot of the time, I don't get involved in politics because it's hard to get involved in stuff when I don't 100 agree with all the. On the right, but at the same time, on. When it comes to the left, there's so much hypocrisy, you know, so it's like. Not to say there isn't on the right, there is too, but there's so much on the left where it's like, they act like, oh, we're doing so much for this, we're doing so much for that. We're doing so much for this. And then, like, they're not. They don't do. They don't. Nobody does charity. Nobody helps out kids. Nobody does anything. So it's like all of them. So I've honestly just withdrawn from all that. Like, I mean, my politics are hopefully. I mean, like I said, hopefully, in a way, the system crashes because when it does everything, like, trust me, like, just a guy like you, when it does crash, you love it because it's just gonna break all barriers of all the. That we get hung up on is gonna be gone.

[A]

Yeah. You talking, like, the financial system or.

[B]

Just everything's gonna crash. And when it does, it's going to be amazing because it's just like, think about it. Like, if there's somebody who's out there abusing women and being like, a weirdo or some, we can just go get that guy, like, putting him in jail and all that. We can just go get him, like, okay, we got him. We killed him. It's over with, boom, done. We don't need to play around with all this jail if we know we got proof and there's enough whatever. Like, obviously we want proof. You don't want to convict, you know, or kill somebody who did wrong. But it's like, if somebody touching kids or some. Just go get them, bro. Like, why can't we go get them? Like, there's been examples when people have gone out and defended, you know, their kids being touched and then happens.

[A]

And then they get life sentence depending on the state they're in.

[B]

Yeah. Which is crazy.

[A]

Yeah. It's super nuts. Was there ever a society that operated that way in the past? America in the past?

[B]

Hell, yeah. Before the first president or before, like, before this. Like, past 100 years, before taxes, all this. Like, people didn't really care about that. We had rich black people. We had all kinds of. I mean, there was a rich black town in Atlanta that was bigger than Wall street, and they flooded that.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Holy. Yeah.

[A]

They used weather manipulation to flood it.

[B]

I don't know if they needed what it was before that. I mean, technically you should. If you manipulate. They just diverted a stream to flood it and drown everybody.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

And that's what I think. Lake Lanier is in Atlanta now. And they say if you swim in that lake, you can, like, feel like people go disappearing there all the time.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And they'll just be dragged down to the bottom of the lake. And that shit was bigger than Wall Street. So it's just like. Even all these social programs that they started were. And you can look it up. FDR was a racist, and FDR's whole plan was to destroy the black family.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. That's his whole plan. You can look this up. I encourage people to do their own research.

[A]

They didn't teach that in history school.

[B]

No. They make him out to be a hero. I mean, not only was his wife his cousin, but he cheated on her every chance he got, too. So.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Say from a moral. Yeah.

[A]

First cousin.

[B]

Yeah. First cousin.

[A]

What the.

[B]

Yeah. We don't talk about this, Right? No, I mean, why was her last name the same name?

[A]

Wow. I never looked into that. I just. Yeah, I just saw he was married. I didn't really look into the wife.

[B]

Yeah. Nobody does. And then when they do, then they're like, oh. You know, like, so. I mean, like, it's just we've had a really up kind of last 100 so years, so I kind of get what people mean when they want to make things better, but it just. At the same time, it's like the way certain people go about making things better. Like, you're not going to win somebody over with hate no matter what you do. You know what I mean? Even if you don't agree with whatever. You're just not going to win them over. You know what I'm saying? It's just. It's just you got to kind of finesse it. And like, you know, they say to save a man from drowning, you got to wade through his water. You know what I mean? So you kind of have to, you know, figure that out.

[A]

Yeah. I'm at the point now where I'm just questioning history, like, in general. Like, think about all the presence they portrayed in a. In a good light and a bad light. And like, actually ask yourself, were they those people?

[B]

No, for sure. Like, people go back and they talk so much about people like Andrew Jackson and. And don't realize, like, yeah, there's a lot of bad he did, but there was a lot of good he did, too.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Where it's like, they're like, well, he's a racist because the Trail of Tears and all this. And it's like, okay, but what about when he raised an army to fight back and push the British out of New Orleans and raised an army full of crayols, blacks, pirates, and Native Americans as well to push the British out of New Orleans? And it's like, okay, they don't talk about that. They don't talk about when he had dysentery and literally was dying and let his men ride his horse while he walked. So they don't talk about that. So people have been flawed and stuff, but at the same time, we make. We take one thing and we will, like, take a microscope look at that and take one thing on somebody and then it's like, okay, that makes them bad. Yeah.

[A]

You form an opinion off one event.

[B]

Yeah. And that's. And that's fine. But it's just. It's how we top. But that's how they teach kids, you know? So these people are good. These people are bad. It's like Abraham Lincoln good. Oh, no, like. Like some bad. Was he racist? Yes.

[A]

Like, everybody was.

[B]

Right? Yeah. Of course there's letters with him. Right. Saying the N word, all that.

[A]

What?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because he's, like, known for, like, bringing the two races together. Right.

[B]

I mean, he didn't bring together. I mean, the people are still divided. You know what I mean?

[A]

Didn't he abolish it, though, a slavery?

[B]

I mean, he abolished it to cripple the south because he had a grudge because they didn't vote for him.

[A]

Oh, that's why he did it.

[B]

Yeah. He's just petty. That's why. That's why it was since Emperor Tyrannis. It was like, you know what I'm saying? That's why he got his head blown off.

[A]

That is crazy.

[B]

Had Marfan syndrome. He would have probably survived that bullet. But his caroted artery or whatever wasn't pumping blood right to his brain. Because he had Marfan syndrome.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

So he was like, he's like six, eight. He had like Marfan.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

That's. They under do his height all the time to try to like make it so he didn't like. But he would have. He would probably would have died like 10 years later anyways. Just from the Maran.

[A]

Wow. I didn't know he had that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So he got shot in the neck.

[B]

Head.

[A]

Oh, the head.

[B]

Head.

[A]

Wow. Did this Charlie Kirk thing. You up, dude.

[B]

I think in a sense of. I didn't want to see a man get shot, you know, I knew he died and it was sad to see that. And then seeing people's reaction to it was like, really weird.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Like, I don't know how you gonna get like. It was just like I was talking to my boy on the phone and we were like. And just from an empathetic standpoint, we were like, man, when Osama bin Laden got killed in front of his kids, we were like, that was kind of up. Like, we kind of felt like even though, like, okay, supposed a bad guy or whatever, who knows, right? But supposedly bad guy. And it's like even just thinking about that kind of like hit me in a way where I was like, okay, like, I don't know, should we kill a man in front of his kids? Or could we just got him like, you know, a different way or captured him or some, like, did we have to do that? You know, so then when you take that into perspective of we just have a guy who people just don't like or whatever because of his viewpoints. Honestly, I didn't know much about him when it happened. It was at a video shoot. I heard the name. I started texting people, Captain Kirk died because I don't know. That's what I heard. And people like, what the. William Shatner was shot. Who would shoot William? And I was like, so, you know, and then I realized that because, you know, I don't know, because it was a hard name. The ch in the cut, like, I. It's hard for me to say his name because it just don't go together, you know, it's like. It's like, you know, I've kept saying like, Carly, like, Kurt.

[A]

It's a tongue twister.

[B]

It is. It's people don't realize that. And he seemed like, you know, I didn't know much about him, but it seemed like some of the stuff, it's like with anybody you can see some stuff you agree with and some stuff you disagree with. I think if you can't find something that you agree with with everybody, you're not opening your mind.

[A]

Not at all.

[B]

I think every single person that's a politician, I can find at least one thing. I agree with them on at least one thing. If not, I'm, I'm completely closed minded. So I know he's not really a politician, but I think to see somebody shot like that is fucked up. And then, you know, it's a fucked up thing. It shouldn't happen. I mean, I don't think gun control is the issue. I don't think that at all. When people talk about that, that's ridiculous. Like, like clearly it's a security problem and security breach. And I mean the way things go about it, I kind of got to the source of what happened and who did it, but I feel like that's like a subject that's kind of like.

[A]

You know, Candace is exposing it. I'm not sure if you've seen that.

[B]

Then let her do it now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But it's really clear what happened. If you kind of like connect dot to dot and it's like I hate to do it because I'm usually on the side of every, everybody and. But like at the same time it's like if you connect.to dot, it's really easy to figure out what happened. It's like, so do you think the.

[A]

The shot was an exit wound or an entry wound in the neck?

[B]

I'm not sure if it was from front or behind.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's the thing.

[A]

Most people are now are saying it's an exit wound because it was such a big hole.

[B]

Yeah, I.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like an entry wound usually isn't that big.

[B]

It depends on the caliber and the closeness. But I don't, when I hear it back at first I'm like, that sounded like around a.308. Because just being from Florida shooting that, I'm like, it sounded like that. But when I heard it back I'm like, it could have been a pistol. It could have been a lot of things.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So I don't know. I think the shooter was a lot closer. I think how many shooters that are just some kid or whatever have like two people that are decoys. Two decoys, plus. Yeah, you know, it's kind of a crazy thing. I mean, like I said, I know who did it because I have a source that pretty trusted.

[A]

Yeah, we'll talk off camera about it.

[B]

But if I reveal that, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to have my source anymore or worse, what happens. So it's like sometimes when you know shit, there's like. I can hint at shit. Yeah, enough. But I think people, if they. Another event. I'll just say this. Another event happened at the same time. And this was kind of a. Let's make this the news versus that.

[A]

That was the school shooting, right?

[B]

No.

[A]

Or no. Because there was a school shooting that day too.

[B]

Yeah, but it's America, you know.

[A]

Yeah. There's, you know, that's like once a.

[B]

Week at this point, you know, and it's, it's nothing to do with guns. It's just we, we lead the world in crazies, you know, it's just being from Florida, we lead the world in crazy. It's like because if you take away guns, you're gonna. Somebody gonna stab somebody, you take away knives, somebody gonna run somebody over the car, make a pipe bomb, do something. It's just like, you know, like were cavemen not hitting each other over the head with a rock? I mean, Cain and Abel going back to the, you know, first murder, right? They did it with a rock.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like if that, you know, if you believe in that. But it's just like, it's so. I mean, you can't really take away guns.

[A]

I don't think it would help at all, to be honest.

[B]

It wouldn't. It might make things worse. Honestly.

[A]

It actually might.

[B]

Yeah, it actually, it actually might.

[A]

So, I mean, the war on drugs was a total fail. So when you try to take away something, it makes it worse.

[B]

Yeah. I mean the war on drugs was.

[A]

Look at how much money they lost of taxpayer dollars on that. And it made it worse.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean more people died, actually, I believe, because they did that.

[B]

Yeah. Because fentanyl and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now it's kind of crazy.

[A]

So like clearly taking away something doesn't work. But people just think like it's a one fixed solution. If that makes sense.

[B]

Well, yeah, because in their life that works for them. Because it's like, it's like, like if they take away, you know, if they're buying a bunch of junk food and they take it out of their house, that works for them. But they don't understand that. Like that's a one person thing. Now you're Dealing with a bunch of people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? Once you deal with a big group.

[A]

Of people, a lot of variables.

[B]

Yeah. Too many variables.

[A]

But like you said, it comes down to the mental health stuff for sure.

[B]

For me. Yeah. And they don't. Like, like, I got suspended for a gun before and they gave me a mental health exam and I passed it with flying colors. And even the lady said, like, we shouldn't even be giving you this exam. I didn't bring the gun to school, but I had it online. And you had it online, like just like on Facebook. Just trying to flex sort of.

[A]

Okay. You post a little story with it.

[B]

It just was like, you know, like y', all, you know, type and then.

[A]

Someone snitched on you.

[B]

A lot of people did all. And all them are. And I never did anything in life. I hope they watch this. All them. All y' all suck. All y' all ain't do nothing. I've seen all y' all LinkedIn pages and junior ass lawyers and all y' all making 95k a year.

[A]

You junior lawyers are going to get wiped out by AI.

[B]

I hope so. Them.

[A]

It already started. I know people.

[B]

Good. Fuck them.

[A]

I know a lot of law firm owners are not hiring junior lawyers right now.

[B]

Hell yeah. Fuck those people.

[A]

But they snitch on you. And what was a test? It was like a written test?

[B]

No, it was just like a lady, like, does a deep psychological evaluation with you and I pass. I have nothing wrong with my brain, which is, I guess, good. But like, at the same time, like. And I've done like, even afterwards, like, extensive hypnotherapy and all kinds of shit with a guy who used to work with the government. And that was cool because, like, he's able to delete, like, certain emotional problems that people have from your brain. They can just delete them.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So like when you react emotionally, he can delete that trigger?

[B]

Yeah, like, I don't get anxiety or depression.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

He just deleted that.

[A]

I need to get that done. Hypnotherapy.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

If you find somebody that worked with the government, they're like, they can just delete from your brain.

[A]

Wow. So they're training all their agents to just be machines.

[B]

Yeah, Not.

[A]

Not emotional.

[B]

Like, there's so many times up will happen to me and I, like, I might get like, angry for a second and then like the next day, I really won't give a. Wow. So he just. It really works.

[A]

It's like, that's a life hack right there.

[B]

It is. They deleted a lot of.

[A]

Was that overall good, though? Because they probably deleted some that you cared about too, right?

[B]

I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. Who knows if he went in there and did some other.

[A]

Do you think memories can be altered?

[B]

Yeah, they can.

[A]

How would they do that? Hypnotherapy.

[B]

Yeah, they can do that in hypnotherapy. Wow.

[A]

That's actually scary.

[B]

They could change who you even think you are.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

It could change your whole personality. Anything, for sure.

[A]

I mean, that's some MK Ultra at that point, right? I mean, that's like brainwashing.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Like, that could be used for good and for bad.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, right.

[A]

For you, obviously it was good.

[B]

But it was weird, though, because I went back to him and then his office was in, like, a weird government building and then it was gone. And all this, like, website and was deleted. So it was like the whole trace of the guy was deleted.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

So I don't know. Maybe I was MK altered, if that's the thing.

[A]

You think he was trying to make you a Hollywood plant in the music industry? Because that's like a whole conspiracy that you hear about.

[B]

I hope so, because my career could use it, man. I hope so. I love it. Because my career could use it, you know?

[A]

I know you've been in some interesting meetings.

[B]

I've been in some interesting meetings. A lot I've turned down, you know, especially early on, just because I used to just do a lot of drugs. I would always be like, them. I ain't doing that because it was just like, you know, like they used to. And I just used to kind of be like a. Like I was an. So it was like. That kind of saved me from, like, a lot of up. Like I was talking about before. The thing was, like, how the people were like, yeah, we'll make your song number one. All this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Brought me underground the fountain blue live and played the song for the people and all this. Like, oh, we made Sexy Red Song 1. Let Me do that for you. You know, Understand this works. I just got weird vibes from him. But that was not even the weirdest meaning, you know? I've seen weirder. I've been at a party, walked in the wrong room, and seen people worshiping Moloch and like that.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

That shit's real.

[A]

Was that a Diddy party?

[B]

It was not.

[A]

Thank God.

[B]

It was not Diddy. I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be able to sit here comfortably shifting in my seat, and I would Ask for the tail. Tailbone cushion. Had to order that ahead. Propped up a little bit.

[A]

No, I've been invited some weird, though, like, little blood, prick at the door, stuff like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In Hollywood, that's normal.

[B]

Yeah, there's. It is. A lot of that is normal. That's why I don't really like to go out and stuff. If I go out, I don't really like, go to, like, these house parties and. Because also, they're just like. I'm surprised a lot more people weren't. Me too. Or exposed even. Like, a lot of celebrities, they seem like they came for certain people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, they were trying to get certain people with stuff. But, like, if you think about it, like, if you consider, like, women who are, like, up and can't consent rape, then I would say 80 to 90 of Hollywood is rapists.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

I would say, like, most celebrities, like, if we were just to rattle them off, I would say rapist. Rapist, rapist.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And it's nothing bad. It's just like. Well, I mean, it's bad, but, you know, I mean, like, it's. That's nothing bad, but you know what I mean? Like, it's not like. I guess it does. What. I mean, it doesn't take away from, like, the talent level, but, like. Yeah. Like, when you think about it, like. Yeah, most celebrities are rapists for sure. It's nothing. It's not like a big secret. I don't think. Not in Hollywood. Like, when you hear all this shit.

[A]

You'Re just like, I don't get surprised anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When a Hollywood producer gets exposed for that shit.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. The reason. I think a lot of. The reason why a lot of people don't get put forward more is because they don't have money or power. So nobody really wants to take them out. So it's like they're trying to take somebody. Yeah. It's just. It's not worth it. So, like. But if they get to a certain point where they get too powerful or they start exposing shit or something, then that's the thing.

[A]

Right. Like Michael Jackson.

[B]

Yeah. Basically, kind of like he was starting.

[A]

To expose some shit. Right.

[B]

And then. Yeah. Which. And that was weird because that was at the same time, the Harvey Weinstein. So it's like, a lot. People were saying that Harvey Weinstein paid TMZ to push the Michael Jackson to cover up his original.

[A]

Wow. So that's nuts.

[B]

We don't really know if he touched the kids or not. I'll say this. I think he touched the Kids. Because who sleeps in the bed with kids? But at the same time, like, you know. Yeah, it makes it hard to listen to certain songs when you really think about it. But, man, that was talented.

[A]

He was so talented.

[B]

It was crazy.

[A]

Can't deny it.

[B]

Yeah, you can't deny talent. It's like R. Kelly. You can't deny a talent. I'm not gonna stop listening to the song just because then the crazy thing about R. Kelly, and this is the weirdest about him, that when he was just little girls, everybody supported him. As soon as they found out he was little boys, too, the community was.

[A]

Like, nah, that was the line.

[B]

That was the line. That was a line. And that just tells you so much about Hollywood and even the rap in R B industry. Because it was like, they were fine with the little girl. Yeah, it was like, they're fine with that. I mean, and then as soon as it was little boys, it was like, oh, man. You know, so it's just one of those things.

[A]

I'm so, like, what's the right word? Like, I just wonder why these elites have such a fascination with the. The child stuff. Like, it's something psychological. Or do you think there's, like, a blackmail ring? Like, what do you think's going on?

[B]

I think definitely a blackmail ring. Number one number for sure, that it's power, because they know how damning it is. Not only can it ruin somebody's career, take away all their power, take away all their money, everything that they want. Right. It can also, you know, get people to kind of do their bidding. So then it's like, if you see celebrity and then you, like, it's like when you see, like, an election video for, like, somebody they want to get elected, and you see a bunch of celebrities, hey, vote for dude. They probably all kids. I mean, it's just like they got blackmail on them. Yeah, there's something that's like. And that's was the thing with Diddy was with, like, the gay stuff. So they could get like. Like, he makes the people do that.

[A]

And then films it.

[B]

Films it. And then they got that on. And I mean, people have been doing that since Ray cone, the Trump. Master, whatever you want to call him. Yeah, Trump's real daddy, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That dude, like, you know, used to have blackmail on all kinds of people getting. He would throw, like, gay sex parties and then be like, oh, yeah, now I got you on video. You do my bidding. So that's just like, he was like, the first guy to do that. And, you know, I Think, like, that it's just been common in Hollywood and stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then they, like, you know, it's been a weird thing to, like, kind of COVID that up. And I don't really understand it because to me, it wouldn't make a difference if, like, some actors. Gay or not, I don't really give.

[A]

A. Yeah, I don't care about the gay stuff, but the child stuff is what. Yeah, it's weird.

[B]

The child stuff is weird because it's like the child can't, like, just let a child be a child.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I mean, it just is what it is. Like, I don't know if we'll be able to stop it because there's so much, like, rich, powerful, elite people involved in it.

[A]

I don't think it'll stop it.

[B]

Yeah. That it's not. It's like. It's just too big.

[A]

Even when they bust one ring, another one will open up, you know.

[B]

Yeah. And there definitely is ritualistic stuff that goes along with that. I think, you know, there's a reason why they worship Moloch. Right. You know, give not your sense the fire of Moloch. Right. So there's a reason why they worship Moloch and they do. And, I mean, I wouldn't even normally talk about that, but I don't give a fuck. Like, at this point, like, I'm so out and open about shit, it's like, I don't think they really got shit on me. And even if they did have shit on me, it's like, fuck it, you know, it's like. You know, it's like. I don't know.

[A]

So I'm at that point, too, where I'm ready to just let loose, but I'm sprinkling it in here and there. It'd be tough to get on me. I've only slept with one woman. I don't do. I go home and, you know, go on my phone and computer. I'm not out partying my whole life. Yeah. I don't party. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. It'd be hard to find dirt on me, honestly. They would have to plant it.

[B]

You have, like, a girlfriend or a wife or.

[A]

We're getting married next month. You just met her out there.

[B]

Oh, that's crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So only one woman.

[A]

Yeah. So I can't get me too'd Unless they fake it or they plant it or do what they did to Andrew Tate. Like, pay someone to, like, say they already grape them or whatever. It's possible. I'm not going to rule it out, but it'd be.

[B]

It'd be difficult, I feel like. Yeah, they can't really do to you. I mean, they could.

[A]

They could try. Dude, look what they did to Tate. I mean, that girl got it. They paid some girl allegedly 100 grand to say they graped. That he graped her. And then it got leaked that she got paid. This was the Romania case, I believe.

[B]

Oh, okay. Okay, okay. I mean, yeah, but I feel like he's more out there.

[A]

Yeah, he's sleeping around with many women, so. Yeah, he has more ways to get in trouble.

[B]

Yeah, that's the thing. That's why it's like, I don't know.

[A]

And these days, they're using woman as a weapon. Some of them are intentionally. They're telling them to sleep around with certain people to gain information. Did you know that? Especially in politics. Yeah, especially in politics, but with celebrities, too.

[B]

I don't feel like. Thank God. I don't feel like I'm that big of a celebrity. So.

[A]

It's something you got to start thinking about, though, as you get bigger.

[B]

Maybe. I mean, what information would they get from me? Like, Social Security?

[A]

I don't know. I don't know. But if you start climbing the charts, you start gaining some influence and build a huge audience, they're going to want to have some sort of dirt on you, you know?

[B]

I mean, if they give me money, then they can have it.

[A]

You got a price?

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I don't know the price for what. What do I got to do?

[A]

Not talk about certain things. Push certain agendas.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. To not talk about certain things. Because I could talk. I could drop a bomb right now. Like, I could up a lot. So if they don't want me to up, Pay me, Pay me. Like, I want to get paid because I want, like. I don't know, I want, like, I buy a lot of instruments. I buy, like, clothes. I buy, like, most do I buy. I don't know. I want to. I want, like. You ever. Like, I got a lot of new cars out that are nice and, yeah, I really drive, but it's like, you.

[A]

Know, it's nice having a couple cars. Yeah. I'd like to say I could turn down big money, but. Easier said than done.

[B]

Yeah, no, I. I couldn't. I'll be honest. I just.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I think my karma's already. So at this point, it's like, I might as well get paid.

[A]

You don't think you could offset it at this point?

[B]

Nah, you've done too much bad things, I think. I think it's gonna be like maybe, you know, I'm like, if it's. If we're talking about karma, I'll be like, turtle or something next life or something. I have to walk.

[A]

Okay, so you believe in reincarnation if.

[B]

If, you know, if we. The karma. Right. Don't have to go two in hand. In hand.

[A]

Some people believe in it in just this life. So, like, what you do only impacts this life. And then some people believe in it generationally. So, like, if you're a dick in this life, you're gonna be born as a turtle. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, a turtle or a human in a third world country. Some people don't believe in animal reincarnation, but see it.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know what I believe in when it comes to that. I think. I guess I'm gnostic, so.

[A]

Oh, you don't believe in God?

[B]

Well, Gnostics believe in God.

[A]

Oh, they do.

[B]

Well, it's the. The God that people worship. Worship is the demiurge, so that's different. My. My God's different. My God's the watchtower God.

[A]

Demiurge. I haven't heard that.

[B]

Yeah, it's a demiurge is what most people pray To. So most of these religions are all surrounded around praying to the demiurge, which is different.

[A]

And is that a demon or what is that?

[B]

Essentially? Yeah, it's the false God.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And it's the God that most people pray to.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

And it's Gnosticism was the only religion that directly derived from Jesus's teachings. So all other religions are false.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

From like traditional Christianity, all that stuff. I mean, I wear a cross, but.

[A]

As a Gnostic, I need to look more into Gnostic.

[B]

Yeah, look into it. But I guess my advice would be when you do die, don't go towards the light.

[A]

Don't go towards the moon, the light.

[B]

Whatever you see, that's what reincarnates you. So eventually this is like. Is essentially like. I'm sure you've seen it because people talk about aliens and kind of fall into Gnosticism a little bit. And it's basically like this is a prison planet. And all the pain that we have here, the reason why everything feels like, kind of painful or there's certain aspects of pain is because that's harvested by, you know, a group of people, you could say, that are. Are not us. And they harvest this pain from us and they make this world. So that's kind of like how they get this world to be, you know, like, keep their moving. Like that's the energy they harvest off. Yeah, that's explain.

[A]

I know. You mean, I've heard similar theories to this energy harvesting.

[B]

Yes. And so when you get. And they tell you, oh, go towards the light when you die.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's just you being reincarnated to have your pain harvested again.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

So it's just an endless cycle. So. And that's from. Yeah. And so basically, if you don't go near the light, you transcend this world and you get to go to actually the real thing. And eventually the real God will be released. But right now it's held prisoner by the demiurge.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Which is the God that people pray to.

[A]

And when was that takeover? Do you know when that happened?

[B]

Since the beginning of Earth.

[A]

Oh, okay. So he was never in power.

[B]

Was in power, but no, not as of late. That's why. Do you really think God would be so wrathful and vengeful and all this? Do you really think a God would be like, that's what I'm saying. Like, let's see the God in the Old Testament. And nothing against Jewish people or anything, but like. And you know, I mean, think about it. Sacrificing bulls. All the. All that God would ever ask for all that, or is that something bigger? You know what I mean? And, and that's something that steps out of the realm of what a God would ask people to do. So a lot of what people pray to is not the real God. You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's technically like what you would consider a demon or whatever you want to call it.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I mean, that's at least my beliefs. Right? Everybody is entitled to their own, which. But yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of people who kind of share Gnostic beliefs.

[A]

So were you always like that or did you grow up kind of Christian or religious?

[B]

I grew up and my dad said, you can choose whatever you want.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And then so I just did extensive research to figure out all this stuff and read the book of Thomas and all this stuff and everything. And I mean, Thomas had a private conversation with Jesus, and we'll never know what happened in the private conversation, but he started Gnosticism right after. And it's like. And he said to the other apostles, if I told you what he told me, you would all kill me where I stand.

[A]

Holy crap.

[B]

So basically saying, like, whatever you, like, think he took, like, is. And the way I thought about that is not that he was. It's been translated that people think, oh, he was being critical the way Thomas was, and called him out on a bunch of. No, the way I view that is, is what would make somebody kill you where you stand, more likely to challenge them on all their beliefs. So Jesus chose Thomas to say, hey, I'm going to give you the real lowdown of what, what's going on here. You seem like you can handle it, carry on this message. So that's kind of. And that's where that stems from. And like I said, all these other religions, you know, have a lot of flaws.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

But if you look just purely at Gnosticism, you'll never hear about bullshit with that down. It's. It's interesting, but I don't think it's like, it's also like, it doesn't require a church. It doesn't require a lot of. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It says you can pray wherever you are. God is inside of you. You can pray. So it's like kind of. Didn't you see why it didn't catch on as much? Because it's like you can't really, like, make a gift shop out of that. But there's some churches and they have gift Shops. The one in Arizona. Sedona, Arizona. I would. I wanted to burn it to the ground because it was so sacrilegious, because it had a gift shop in it. And when I got there, I just was like. It took, like, everything in my body not to just trash the gift shop.

[A]

Yeah, there's a lot of scams in Sedona, dude. Oh, I got scammed bad. I won.

[B]

Really? What happened?

[A]

I tried to get an aura reading, and we got the same exact results as my fiance.

[B]

It was a horror reading.

[A]

So, like, there's a belief that we have energy fields. I don't know if you believe in that. And, like, it's different colors. Different colors mean different things. Like, you know, you walk in a room and you meet someone, and you. Before you even talk, you kind of feel their energy a little bit. Feel their demeanor?

[B]

No, never.

[A]

You never had that? You never got, like, a bad feeling or, like, a gut feeling or, like, about someone?

[B]

I've seen people's, like, faces shift in a weird way. Like, it's like another face is behind their face.

[A]

That could be possession. I don't know what that is, but.

[B]

I've seen that a lot. I don't know if that's what you mean or not. Like, where it's like, their face will sometimes contort and distort into something that's, like, creepy.

[A]

That could be possession, right? Demonic? Who knows?

[B]

It could be. I think. I think, you know, there's some underlining things of that stuff. But, I mean, I know personally with myself, like, if possession's real, like, there's certain, like. Like those angelic frequencies and stuff. Like, well, literally, I have to cover my ears screaming. So if possession exists, I'm possessed. Damn. So I don't know. Like.

[A]

Are you serious?

[B]

Well, yeah, for sure.

[A]

When you hear those angelic hearings, you.

[B]

Like, there's certain, like, frequencies and church bells, and I can't even be around. I'll, like, throw up. But that's like. I don't know.

[A]

So you might have a demon inside you.

[B]

Fine. Though, like, so. I mean, if I do, I'm doing fine.

[A]

Well, there's a lot of successful people that probably have them inside of them. I don't think it's, like, a deal breaker for that.

[B]

Oh, and we're good.

[A]

I mean, look at some people. You look in their eyes and you could. They're, like, soulless.

[B]

No, I think I still got a soul, but I'm sure I got, like, some passengers or something.

[A]

I'm not saying you, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, I mean, I'm. You know, I don't know. I definitely, like. I don't know. I've done, like, seances and. And invited into my body before, but I always thought that was a scam, so I just, like, damn.

[A]

For real?

[B]

Yeah, I did a seance, but it felt like a scam. And then we went into, like. Then we. I don't know, it went into a weird way and we started going into, like, the Hellscapers things, if that exists.

[A]

Hellscapers.

[B]

The hellscape. Like, you know, like, we went to, like, the dark side of the world. The underworld, if that's thing, you know. Wow. And I don't know why they took me there because I was just trying to talk to Jim Morrison because it was his stupid fan. And I was just like. I just was like, oh, let me talk to this dude and let me, you know, see what's up with him. And I was like, I essentially. I don't know, I, like, invited him. I'm like, man, if you want to still make music, I'm making music. Come along for the ride. And then, I don't know. Ever since then, I definitely had, like, weird happen.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Or like, just certain frequencies and I can't hear.

[A]

So you got Jim Morrison inside of.

[B]

You or probably somebody else. I think I got bootlegged.

[A]

Could be someone faking him. Yeah, that's common in that world.

[B]

Yeah. So I think it's like, I don't know. And also they were gypsies. They were speaking Greek, and so I didn't trust them.

[A]

So where the. Were you?

[B]

La, baby.

[A]

That sounds like a sketchy spot.

[B]

No, they just. All them are Greeks, bro. Like, all these Greeks is just cap, bro. These Greeks are just cappers.

[A]

Well, most psychics and people that do that kind of. Of.

[B]

They're all Greek. They're all Greek Mafia. Like, if you wanted to go be a psychic, you get shut down in a week because the Greek Mafia come through and try to.

[A]

They run that. Yeah, damn.

[B]

They were like, literally, like, so they would be pissed. They'd be like, n you stepping on our turf. You ain't Greek, you.

[A]

I didn't know the Greek mafia was out there in LA like that.

[B]

They're out there. They're out there in every state. If you try to be a psychic, there ain't a psychic that don't speak Greek, I swear.

[A]

Have you ever gotten a psychic reading that you actually believed in?

[B]

No.

[A]

You don't believe in that stuff?

[B]

I don't trust gypsies, man. I'm Check. I don't trust gypsies. Like, I. But they're fun to with sometimes because I'll go in there and, like, I'll give them false information and then they'll, like, they'll. They'll lean right in. So it is fun. Like, you know, I've with them before for sure. You know, you go in there and you start telling them fake about your life, and they'll springboard right off of that every time.

[A]

They'll run with it every time.

[B]

And then I'm just like, cap or you.

[A]

When I get readings, I try to be very vague. I want to see what they can pull first.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's how I kind of test them.

[B]

Out, you know, I don't know if people have that much of an ability for that. Like, but I don't know, maybe they do because there's like. Was that Project Gateway? And you've heard that.

[A]

Is that the remote viewing one?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I read all that. That's how I lost. I lost the feeling of my leg doing that.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, and they don't even, like, even the doctors couldn't figure out how that happened because I was just practicing the basic techniques of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, so you make like, one foot hot when one foot cold. So I can make one foot sweat and the other foot not sweat the bottom. My foot one foot sweat, other foot not sweat. One foot sweat, the other foot not sweat. And all of a sudden I. It up in the middle of it, I lose focus. And then I hear. Feel like, literally hear a loud noise and a shock and my leg from the knee down just died.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

Like, all the nerves, like, so now I can't feel anything in my left leg still. Yeah, it's just gone. I even did, like, this electronic, like, where they tase your leg test. And I was like, oh, I think it's connected to my back. And, like, it's not connected to your back. They're like, did you suffer a leg injury at any point? I'm like, no, never in my life. So.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

It's like, yeah, so be careful with that shit. You got to like, really, like, you know, like, I've read Lesser Kia Solomon and all that shit and everything. I've tried to practice some of that shit, but you got to be careful with that shit. That's the key of Solomon's craze.

[A]

I haven't heard of that one. What's that one about?

[B]

Oh, that's like. Well, Solomon got, like, banished from, like, if I'm not mistaken, like, from Heaven, right. Basically fallen angel. No, he. He was a king and he got banished from heaven for, like, basically doing black magic. He was up, like, all black magic stems from the Lesser Key of Solomon. And that is pretty interesting if you read it, but just don't do the. In the book.

[A]

So he teaches black magic in the book?

[B]

Essentially. Vaguely, yeah. It talks about it. It's cool.

[A]

I mean, I believe in black magic, bro.

[B]

It works.

[A]

But you speak it from experience or.

[B]

It works.

[A]

It works.

[B]

I mean, I looked into, like, a lot of the Aleister Crowley things. I had a picture of Aleister Crowley in my house for a while.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

And then I just was like. Because a lot of that shit's misunderstood. And I always kind of like to walk what's called the Twilight path, because I find that works the best for me. Because it's like when you walk kind of the twilight path, you're walking in between, like, kind of good and evil. And then it allows you to, like, some manipulation of people is needed because a lot of the time if you can manipulate people and you can get a better good out of them, then that's a. That's actually a successful thing, so.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I always kind of tell people, like. And it could just be the simplest manipulation. Like, I was at a concert with my dad and the seats are really tight. I was just able to slowly scooch back, scooch forward, scooch back, scooch forward. I got him enough legroom and I was like, you know, boom. But I did it over a certain amount of time and nobody noticed. And it's like. I think manipulation is the same way you do little things that little triggers and you slowly manipulate people because you realize that the world is chaotic and if you don't do a lot of this stuff, you kind of lose ground that you need to gain, to gain power, to do good things, to help people. Like, I help children. I'll do. I'll give money to charity. I'll do stuff. We just gave a bunch of guitars to poor black kids or something. They're black for sure. Right? Good. I wanted them to be, because not a lot of people like la's and they don't do for black people in la. Like, I always tell people in la, I'm just making sure because I was like, it's one of my parameters. And I just had extra guitars. And we're like, let's give them to these poor black kids. Because they don't do for black people in la. Like, you go down to Compton or any of these places, you're like, okay, why is it all black and why is it shitty? And that's the. That no liberal person can answer to me. And that's why I don't. Like, they lose me. Like, I might be more inclined to be a Democrat. I liked rfk, to be honest, when he was, like, running. If he would have ran, I probably would have been my first vote. Yeah, I would have probably voted for the first time I with him. But at the same time, it's like, despite that crazy voice, like, I don't know what the. The I. Like, I don't know what that is, but he sound like a garbage disposal. That shit's crazy.

[A]

Did he smoke cigarettes or something?

[B]

I think he smoked crack, bro. That's just crazy. Like, I think, like, he sound like he eats rocks. Like, that shit is crazy.

[A]

So wild. Because he's, like, healthy too, though.

[B]

Yeah. He need. He need to be a little unhealthy if that fixes. I don't know. Like, I've seen how he eats too. He don't even eat sauce.

[A]

That's kind of creepy. I can't trust someone that doesn't eat sauce.

[B]

Like, he won't use sauce. Dude, that is.

[A]

That's almost like psychotic.

[B]

Yeah, that is. It's up. Like, that's up.

[A]

Like, he eats a burger with no ketchup.

[B]

I. I don't even think he's doing. I think he's just like, almost like eating, like, just chicken with, like, no plain chicken. Oh, my Vegetables. And like, I saw this guy, he does all, like, the presidents and diets and. And everything, and he did RFKs and RFKs was like the most, like. It was like. It was like. I don't know. It was the craziest thought I've ever seen.

[A]

That's not a way to live life.

[B]

But it's like, okay, yeah, you live longer and your life is good, but I'd rather be fat and happy. I don't know.

[A]

I'd rather live a little less to eat whatever I want.

[B]

Yeah. 100 food is. There's too much good food. Yeah.

[A]

Because when you're like that age, like, why do you care living an extra year? Like, I mean, you're old as already.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know. When I get to that age, I always say I don't mind when I die, as long as it's not tomorrow. That's what I say.

[A]

So you're not ready yet, but you don't mind it in the future.

[B]

I'll say it even then. I Don't mind when I die as long as it's not tomorrow. I'm gonna say that every day of my life because it's like, I don't mind when I die as long as it's not tomorrow. You know, it's like a little. Yeah, it's, like, ironic, you know, because it's like. My point being is, like, I would live to a thousand years. I'm hoping they'll put my brain in, like, a robot, you know, and like, kind of just, you know, do that for, like.

[A]

You'd be immortal if they could transfer your consciousness.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not going to be me.

[A]

You don't want that.

[B]

That. That. That's. That's just a copy of me. That ain't me.

[A]

What if they figure out how to transfer it, though?

[B]

It's not going to work.

[A]

So you think the physical body is you.

[B]

I think that there's something. So, like, when life is. Now, I'm gonna do some political. When life is conceived, unfortunately, whether you believe in it or not, and I'm not saying, you know, I'm neither pro choice or no pro. Whatever. Whatever you want to do, you could do, because y' all gonna get abortions anyway. So it. I'm not gonna stop the. I'm not gonna stop the. I'm not a politician. I want to preface this, but when life is conceived, there is a little flash of light, and when you die, you weigh a little less. So there's a little something there that.

[A]

Do you think the soul's in the body?

[B]

I think it's in there, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Mind, body, spirit.

[A]

Yeah, that's where we disagree. I think it's outside the body, but maybe I could see it.

[B]

I think. I think it is. Because when you kill somebody, you could see that.

[A]

No, I've heard that. I've definitely heard that. I've heard hospital stories come off and.

[B]

Like, I've seen people like.

[A]

I think that's the spirit, and that's different. I still think there's something giving us thoughts outside the body.

[B]

Oh, yeah. The stream of consciousness. I mean. Yeah, that. That's not us, though. That's God. Yeah.

[A]

That's something else, right?

[B]

Yeah. That's the thing that you tap and that gives you the infinite ideas, right? That's. That's real.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But that ain't. That ain't human. That ain't nothing to do with that.

[A]

So you're talking about the subconscious thoughts.

[B]

Like that, where you just zone out and you give you the best thoughts yeah. In your life. Oh, that's beautiful.

[A]

That's not you.

[B]

No, that's not me. No, that's the. That I. That give me all the good shit. Interesting. Like, if I just want to do. Like, if I want to make a song or anything, I'll just sit there with a guitar, I'll completely zone out, and then all of a sudden it'll just give me a song. Whoa.

[A]

So you're getting, like a download.

[B]

Yeah, it's so much. It's so. Thank God for that. Because if not, I'd be like, I couldn't have a single idea. Like, all my ideas would be, like, derivative of just.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So that is. That's the best. That's the cheat code. That thing is the. Well, I don't know. God, whoever's running that, keep doing it. Because that's the. That's like. That is beautiful. That's the best.

[A]

Yeah. You got a spiritual side, too, I think, without really knowing.

[B]

Well, I've gone to a lot of haunted places and seen. I've done a lot of spirit, I've been consulted shamans, I've done a lot of. So, I mean, I guess I have a spiritual side to me. I know a little bit about it, but I always open up the possibility for, like, us just being this. Like, I. I don't. I don't pretend to have the answers. You know what I mean? I think I have the answers with certain things and I have feelings and stuff, but I don't pretend to have any kind of answers. That's why, like, any of the questions, I'm like, possibly yes, possibly no, but I don't. I don't pretend that to have the answers. I think no human knows exactly what's going on.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

So when we die, we'll figure it out, but then we can't tell nobody.

[A]

Facts. It's like a paradox.

[B]

Yeah. And I think that's the best part about it. And I think even if my. My dad always said this, if you talk to a good priest, a good priest is going to tell you they don't have the answers. That's the best thing about it. A good priest is going to tell you, like, hey, you know, we think this is what it is, but we don't really know. And that's the most beautiful thing about life, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because we don't know.

[A]

Agreed. You mentioned aliens earlier, and actually you did have an alien encounter.

[B]

Right.

[A]

At the Santa Monica Pierre.

[B]

Yeah. That's one of the most highly active alien spots. And that was crazy. And I have a video. I just needed to get enhanced.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I literally could send you the video.

[A]

Yeah, we'll throw it up on the. Can we throw it up on the.

[B]

YouTube if you know somebody who can enhance it.

[A]

Okay. Oh, it's blurry.

[B]

It's. I'm like the worst cameraman.

[A]

I'm even like, why are alien videos always blurry?

[B]

It was like, okay, so this way, I'll give you the whole lowdown. This is the weirdest about it. And obviously I'm not like the newest iPhone guy, but it was a little bit newer at the time. And I'm just on this. The pier. And I'm off the side of the pier where it's dark, and I'm just by like, probably it's about 8:30, 9 o', clock, and I'm kind of looking out and I see like, what appears to be like, you know, a squid kite. And, you know, there's a lot of Asians in la, so I'm just a little Asian. But, you know, sometimes they got creative cuts. He's just flying a squid kite. And I see it and I'm like, yo, that moving? Like really squid? Like, no. And I got all these tentacles and I'm like, okay, that's kind of weird. And I just see it kind of like dip and dive a little bit. And I see two other ones kind of next to it. All of a sudden, just blink, appear. And I'm like, okay, that's really strange. And they fly so close. But keep in mind, this is. Here's the pier over there. I'm over here where it's dark in the light. You can't see out to the dark in the dark. You can see out into the light or out into the dark. So I'm over where it's dark on the right side of the pier. So I'm seeing these things and I see them flying so close. I look, I don't see anybody flying the kite or anything. So, like, this can't be a kite. And I see them start to raise up and they start to circle around and I'm like, okay, this is a helicopter. I'm just seeing. And they circle up. They start circling so fast. And they're blinking in and out, blinking and out disappear. And I'm like, that can. I don't know any machine that can do that. This looked like squids. It was the weirdest I've seen in my life. I've never seen anything of it. I can't explain it. I. I mean, my only thing is That I know supposedly biblically accurate angels looked weird. So maybe that's what people see. Because that's why like the first thing an angel say to somebody is don't be afraid. Because it's always. It's a weird looking thing. It don't look like you or me with wings. That's just like some Michael fantasy that they drew just to kind of like make angels sexy, you know, make a little sex. So it's like, you know, that's. That was basically it.

[A]

The way you're describing it sounds like they opened up a portal.

[B]

Yeah. There's one right off of Santa Monica.

[A]

A portal?

[B]

Yeah, it's like underwater and it comes up.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh. So that's probably why they were there. They were trying to.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, go walk Santa Monica beach and you'll see a trash can that says NASA. There's like a secret NASA building there. But for some reason they're trash can labeled NASA.

[A]

Huh.

[B]

Which is really weird. And then you like. So there's NASA trash can there, like that's Santa Monica beach pure, specifically is one of the most highly seen place for aliens.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And my thinking of that is because of all the light pollution, they're like, these motherfuckers can't see shit. Let's just fly right above it. What the occasional person walking is not really going to see, like. And nobody was going to believe him anyways. So it was, it's a, it was a, like it's one of those things. And everybody that I've kind of like shown or talked to about it always has all different kind of opinions on it. But I know what I saw was not human. Definitely not from this realm. You could say different dimension. No Inner Earth, you could say, you know, out space. But I think these things have always been there. I think it's not crazy even from an evolutionary standpoint to think that a squid could not with how much humans evolved to what we evolved to. And to think things like squids and octopuses predated us. Right. They've been around for longer. So it's not crazy to think that some kind of animal couldn't have predated us and gotten the ability to fly and breathe oxygen and all that and to do other things and transcend different, you know, realms and shit, different dimensions and stuff. So it's not that. That in itself. So even from an evolutionary standpoint, the idea is not crazy. And I'm. There's other people who've got even better videos of the same shit.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I've seen the videos of it. I'm like, that's exactly what I saw. And they were around other places. So I think. I think we're getting to the point here soon where there's going to be human connection to aliens. Like, it's gonna be. We're just gonna see it.

[A]

Disclosure is what they call it.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's gonna happen because it's just. It's getting too long. Like, too much time has gone on. And now, like, I remember I used to talk about aliens, like, in high school, people like, oh, this kid's weird. And now it's like, now everybody cares about them.

[A]

So it's like even the government's pretty much admitted they exist.

[B]

Yeah, they do. I mean, I just think they don't come from space. I think the more likely that they're here or we're already here. If they did come from space, they came from space a long time ago. Because if you think about how many light years they would have to travel.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How much stuff. Even opening wormholes, all that, unless they have technology, it would essentially have to have conquered some kind of time travel. Right. In order to get here. Unless, you know, in our own solar system, there is places that are hidden, like Titan or something, where there is life.

[A]

Antarctica.

[B]

That possible? For sure.

[A]

There's a theory on that.

[B]

I think there's probably stuff out there. I don't know. I. Once again, I'm not. I'm always open to everything, so I'm never like one of those people that's just like, oh, the whole. There couldn't be other continents. There couldn't be like. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Until I see it, I don't believe it.

[A]

I.

[B]

And, you know, until I see. I don't disbelieve it. But it's like, I think there's a possibility for all that stuff. I think. I think what we're told is not real. You know, I think. I think it. I'll say that I know that. And from sources that I have, I know for a fact that, like, half the stuff out there that people think or talk about is enough Real. Yeah, it's not real.

[A]

Well, it's just been programmed into people since they've been kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

History is his story.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. It's not fact.

[B]

No, it's not. Not at all.

[A]

Not even close. Dude, this was a fun episode. Let's end off with your. Your album. I think it's dropping when we drop this episode.

[B]

Right. I have singles out.

[A]

You have singles out right now.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know when we're probably gonna drop the album first quarter because. Because it. It's better to drop then in quarter one. Yeah. It's kind of like a dead time. But we've been having singles and shooting videos and all that stuff's been cool. And I mean, it's cool to. Like I said, like, I realized, like, part of the. What I need to do is put myself more out there. Like, I did that with my old career. It worked better, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Instead of like the music's, you know, a key thing of it. But it's like people want to. With you based off what you say, you know, then they kind of.

[A]

That's what I've noticed. There's been a shift where people care more about the personality now than the actual music.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I think. I think it kind of started when. When 6 9ine was on the scene.

[B]

Yeah, he. He. Yeah, I would say he. I mean, once again, I don't agree with him. Excellent marketer. A funny. Well, if you talk about bad feelings. I was at Scott Storch's house and I was working with him really early on in my career and he's like, hey, Danny's coming over. Do you want to meet him? You guys should work together. You want to meet him? And I did get a pit, like, something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Now that you mentioned it now, like, it's funny, things kind of come full circle. This weird feeling on my stomach. I'm like, I think I'm just gonna go, so. And that was one of the few times. So, yeah, he's got something weird going on with him.

[A]

Yes, you did get a gut feeling. Okay.

[B]

So, yeah, I guess I like now that, like. See, like sometimes I. I can't think about things until I think about a specific example.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they say the gut is the second brain.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's like, don't go against your gut.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, they say that's like a big part of your decision making process.

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

I could see it. Like, I remember taking tests as a kid and every time my gut told me to pick an answer and I didn't go with it, I was wrong. So I don't know. We still don't know how to describe that, but there's some interesting theories on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who knows? Who knows, man? I don't know if we'll ever know, but Six9 is going to be in Vegas in a few weeks actually.

[B]

Hopefully with a lot of security based off what happens to him? Hopefully a lot of security. Yeah, I got some guys if he needs some help. These guys are good.

[A]

I'm need security. He's coming on the pod. I don't want to get shot up while we're filming.

[B]

I know security guys.

[A]

We'll talk off of this. I don't.

[B]

I mean, I think they're good. They can even come out with, like, bigger guns. I mean, they don't.

[A]

I don't know if people still hate them, but it's better to be safe than sorry, right?

[B]

I just probably wouldn't tell, like, the exact day that he's here.

[A]

Yeah, I won't.

[B]

I won't if that makes any sense. Like, just. I don't. I hate to give it.

[A]

This will drop after, but.

[B]

Yeah, like, yeah, I would, like, delay it, you know, a little bit because I just know. I know even some people personally in Vegas that I won't talk to him, but whatever. I wouldn't say that would probably even have a problem.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Like, just. I know people in Vegas that would.

[A]

Like, be like, that's crazy because he affect. Because his market was like, east coast, but he affected people out here too.

[B]

Everywhere. You can't walk in anywhere.

[A]

Holy. That's not worth no amount of money, bro.

[B]

Well, he's broken.

[A]

I'm saying he probably did it at the time for, like, money and status.

[B]

But, I mean, he did it to get out of jail.

[A]

Yeah, but he.

[B]

And, you know, they, they, you know, his woman, they tried to kill him and all that. And so then he's like, I'm gonna snitch on you guys, but it ain't worth it. You'd be surprised what happened to me that I've cut my mouth shut.

[A]

Really? So you're against snitching?

[B]

I mean, 100%.

[A]

I'm like, what about, like, extreme examples? Like, if they're like. With his example, I guess I probably.

[B]

Would have let it slide, to be honest.

[A]

For real.

[B]

I probably would have.

[A]

Your girl and, like, your bag up.

[B]

I mean, they didn't kill me, right? They just. They just captured me and then just let me go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They tossed me out of a moving car and I was fine. Like, that's life. Damn. Get your. Get back if you want to get. Get back, you know? And then just like, he was facing.

[A]

What 30 years was 6, 9.

[B]

Facing.

[A]

It was a long time because his partner, Shoddy, I think his name is, Got sentenced.

[B]

I would have just got. I would have got, like, I don't know, a really good lawyer. And then I would have just. I don't know.

[A]

I think it depends on the sentence, because if you're talking a few years. Yeah, take that on the chin, you know? But what if you're facing life like that, dude.

[B]

You know, I think I could escape. I just flee Monaco, baby.

[A]

Prison escape.

[B]

No, I think I could. I think I could get out quick enough.

[A]

I think especially with the Charlie Kirk thing, how that jet disappeared.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's definitely possible to just arrange. If you know some wealthy people, jets like, yo, can I pay you, like, 100 grand to get out of the country? Yeah, I think it's definitely possible.

[B]

It's 100 possible.

[A]

You'd have to get rid of your phone, because I think that rapper got arrested at the airport or something. I forget which one.

[B]

Not the one who killed the girl, right?

[A]

No, that was crazy. You're talking about the one with the girl in the trunk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What the. Was that David, Right? His name is.

[B]

He killed that. Well, he was banging a little girl.

[A]

And then 15 years old.

[B]

Yeah, well, he was banging her when she was like, 11 or 12.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And then he killed her. He had, like. Had wrote songs about her, and that was crazy. Yeah.

[A]

And her body was just in his car.

[B]

She was probably going to say something, and then he probably just like, forgot to dispose of it.

[A]

Probably on drugs. Right? Just forgot.

[B]

Or whoever did it just didn't dispose of it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I mean, there's so much easy ways to get rid of a body if you need to get rid of a body. You can get rid of a body.

[A]

I heard, to feed it to pigs because they eat the bones.

[B]

I mean, in Florida, we just throw it in. Allegedly. People just throw it in the Everglades, Allegedly in Florida, you know, and the alligators kind of do their job.

[A]

That makes sense.

[B]

That's why that Pain and Game movie. I don't know if they did that in real life, where they put in the oil drums in Everglades.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why it's so, like. It's a comedy movie. Because when they put the bodies in the oil drum. Everglades, it's the dumbest shit ever, because the oil drum, like, seals the body. So the guys are retarded, but they just, like, that's. That's. Yeah, you just. I think pigs would be fine. I think, like. I mean, there's. People can get rid of bodies for. If you really, like, needed that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not like an issue.

[A]

Like, I feel like it's not that hard. Like, people get caught, like, burying them or whatever. It's like, damn, you couldn't have found a better spot.

[B]

50 of murders, I think, go unsolved or something like that.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

It's pretty hot. Weirdly high, like, so you gotta think, like, people dying every day and it's just going unsolved.

[A]

Well, they don't get caught. For the body now I feel like it's the geotagging the phone, right?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, and then there's ways around that too. Yeah.

[A]

You could just plant it somewhere.

[B]

Yeah. So I think, like, I don't know. To me, I feel like. I don't know. He fucked up big time. He just. Number one. He just shouldn't have been fucking with the kid, the weirdo, right off the bat. I don't care if he killed her or not. He definitely fudgeing did, though. Or had somebody kill her. Motor likely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did it.

[A]

Why would it be in his car?

[B]

Yeah, like, so. That shit's crazy, but, you know, it is what it is. And, you know, it's like I said, that's a good example for people to kind of shine a light on Hollywood and be like, okay, how often is this happening? A lot.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, ynw, Melly or whatever.

[B]

That was great. That one hurt a little bit because I did like him.

[A]

He had some good music. His song, Kanye. Yeah. He had some bangers.

[B]

He. That hurt. And I. Although I knew something was weird about him because the area that he's from in Florida, like, just repping, like, a lot of that blood. We don't really have bloods and Crips and, like, we have transplants in Florida who, like. We're like, old bloods and crips. We don't really have that in Florida.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So we don't have, like. We don't have, like. It's Latin Kings and Queens and then, like. Like that for sure. And, like, Hispanic gangs, but. And there's some other smaller little cliques and. But, like, that blood encryption is, like, new.

[A]

So interesting.

[B]

When Melly was around, like, I was already like, man, I. With his music, but something's off. I also like the song pnc, because that bank. That bank is.

[A]

I never had an account at that one.

[B]

No, you don't want to. Like, it's like one of those banks. Like, I don't know if you ever went to the bank and, like, needed to, like, have a lot of cash one day. I'm sure you have. You know, this Vegas. If you ever go to the bank, you need a lot of cash. PNC was like, the worst they'd be like, I don't want to give you your cash and be like, if it's over 10k or something, like, I'd even call ahead. I'm like, if you just. First off, I don't even understand that. Just fill out the form. Because all they need to do is fill out of, like, a. Like, of some sort of form. Tax form or some like a 1099. I don't know if that's the name, but some like that. All they need is fill out a form. I don't care how much money I have. If I want all of it out of the account, give me all that. Like. Like, call up another bank and get the money sent over. Like, be customer service.

[A]

Like, I don't even think that's just pnc, honestly. I think that's a lot of banks.

[B]

Yeah. Bank of America is dicks, too. A lot.

[A]

I'm banned from Chase, but, yeah, you go to any bank and ask for 100k, good luck in that.

[B]

It's. You got to ask, like, days ahead.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think that's. That's, like. That's not.

[A]

Well, they only keep a certain percentage of the portfolio in their actual bank. I think it's a low percent too low. 10 or 20%. Yeah.

[B]

Is that people can even get away with bank robbing anymore? That should be so hard.

[A]

I feel like it'd be hard for him. A big bank.

[B]

It's almost impossible.

[A]

It'd be very hard.

[B]

I knew people used to do that back in the day, and it was cool because they taught me how to, like, drive really well. So I can like.

[A]

Oh, you were the driver.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Allegedly.

[B]

Hell no. First off, I never was a driver. I'll say no to that. They taught me how to drive separate after the events of bank robbery, many years after. They taught me how to drive, so I know how to get through traffic, like, fast. What's the.

[A]

What's the technique?

[B]

You have to anticipate what people, like.

[A]

Are doing, so you gotta guess where they're gonna go.

[B]

It's kind of. It is kind of dangerous. I'm not gonna lie. But you do kind of have to.

[A]

Like, I've seen videos of this. People driving, like, 100 miles per hour on the highway. And, like, that's a whole video category.

[B]

It's a. It's a thing. Those people that you learn how to do that. Those people probably rob banks too.

[A]

It'd be a good skill to have combined. Yeah. With that.

[B]

Yeah. So they taught me how to do It. And I'm not saying I'm the best at it.

[A]

Does it work in la?

[B]

It can, it can. But LA is so unpredictable. People are such drivers there. Yeah. Like, I just got a new car because I had to get. I wanted to get a car because I had different cars. But you can't have like a really nice car in la because the streets are so.

[A]

Yup.

[B]

Because they spend all the money on their own selves. All the politicians are corrupt in la. Like all of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Gavin Newsome. I want to say that. Because of the fires. Definitely. Gavin. Gavin Newsom. 10 times.

[A]

Karen Boss.

[B]

Oh, her too. I'm running for mayor. I want to run for mayor. I've been talking about it for months.

[A]

You don't have the money to compete with her.

[B]

I don't, but I don't know. I still would do it. I'll just troll her ass. I'm. I'm her. I want to. I would run for mayor. I want to run for that. And then. Yeah. It's just you can't have like a supercar and la. You up your rims and.

[A]

Yeah, the potholes.

[B]

So I had to get like something that did everything.

[A]

Bro. I hate driving out there. I was there Monday. I had to pull over and throw up because, like, dude, the traffic was so bad.

[B]

I don't blame you.

[A]

I was in bumper to bumper for an hour to go like 15 miles. And I was in a Tesla with. With the auto break. It just made me so nauseous.

[B]

Teslas. I hate driving Teslas. Yeah, it was.

[A]

It was awful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But dude, this has been great. We should film every couple months. This was fun. We'll link your ship below.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

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