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Data-Driven Health: How Big Tech is Revolutionizing Medicine | Gary Brecka Part 3 DSH #946
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Discover how Big Tech is transforming modern medicine through groundbreaking data analytics and AI 🔬 Join us for an eye-opening conversation about the future of data-driven healthcare and why our current medical system may be missing the mark. 🏥
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Gary Brea
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Host
People in the world, right?
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Gary Brea
Right. But we know that spending doesn't equate to outcomes because the United States basically leads the world in six things. We lead the world in infant mortality, maternal mortality, the lowest life expectancy of a civilized nation at birth, the highest number of multiple chronic diseases in the Same biome, type 2 diabetes, and morbid obesity.
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Host
Wow. We lead the whole world in those.
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Gary Brea
We lead the world in those six categories.
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Host
All right, guys, he's back. Gary Brea. Third time's a charm.
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Gary Brea
Third time's a charm.
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Host
I love it, man. You've been up to a lot.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, been busy, man, since you last been on.
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Host
Started a show.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, I mean, the message is really resonating. You know, we decided that instead of just building a podcast, we build a real media platform. And so we're starting, you know, language translation into multiple languages. And we added to the podcast by just not having a podcast that we would do challenges and evergreens and newsletters because the message is really starting to resonate, which is. Which is really exciting to see.
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Host
Yeah. What are the big messages right now you're trying to get across?
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Gary Brea
You know, it's, it that we're not as sick or disease or as pathological as we think we are. We're nutrient deficient. I mean, if I was to boil the whole message down into a really simple sentence, you know, sometimes I'll. When I do stage talks or interviews where I actually have a presentation, I'll throw up this chart. It's called the methylation chart. And basically what it shows is, is all of this insanely complex biology. Like, it's the most confusing chart you've ever seen in your life. And it's, it's the activity that our cells go through every single day, 300 billion times a day to eliminate ways to repair, to detoxify, to regenerate. And it's ultra, ultra complex. And what I ask people to do is just look at that chart and tell me if you see any synthetics, any pharmaceuticals, any chemicals. But what you do see all over this chart, I mean, in its infinite level of complexity, are basics. Minerals, vitamins, amino acids. And if you actually went into that chart, whether you understand the complexity of it or not, and you just started to say, well, what happens if I just plucked out the B12 or I plucked out the vitamin, the B complexes? What if I just deleted 12 of the 91 essential minerals? How much of this activity would shut down? And you actually get an idea of how complex our cellular biology is and how, you know, our cells live in communities. We're not isolated. And what requires optimal cellular health are just the basics. The minerals, the amino acids, the nutrients, the vitamins. And I argue with people all the time that say we can get it all from food. It's very difficult to get it from food because our, you know, our food supply or soil basically is so nutrient depleted. And so what's happened is, have you seen a decline in some of these basic Nutrients? Folate, vitamin B12, which is actually a metal like zinc and magnesium, a very necessary metal in the human body. And the, and the minerals, the basic minerals, I mean, most of us are mineral deficient. And we have a hard time accepting that if you deprive the human body of certain raw materials, you get the expression of disease. But this is actually very truthful, right? And if you look at how our decline in nutrients in our food supply and the increase in all cause mortality and chronic disease, meaning the United States is what we're the biggest spender on healthcare worldwide. I mean, we spend four and a half trillion dollars a year on healthcare, so you would think we'd be the healthiest people in the world.
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Host
Right?
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Gary Brea
Right. But we know that spending doesn't equate to outcomes because the United States basically leads the world in six things. We lead the world in infant mortality, maternal mortality, the lowest life expectanc of a civilized nation at birth, the highest number of multiple chronic diseases in the Same biome, type 2 diabetes and morbid obesity.
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Host
While we lead the whole world in those.
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Gary Brea
We lead the world in those six categories. We lead the world in those six categories. And. And yet we're the biggest spender of healthcare worldwide. And so we know that having a disease management and symptom maintenance based health care system. And I'm not of the mindset that there's some evil people at the top trying to kill humanity. That's not, you know, I don't, I don't think that there's like you, a couple of people at the top pulling all these levers, trying to purposely make people sick. What just happened over time was that we built an industry, a profitable industry, on the back of chronic disease. You know, I had Kelly Means on my podcast the other day. It was one of my favorite podcasts. And he said something that really just struck me and it was absolutely true. He said, as a statement of fact, there is nothing more profitable than a sick child. And the earlier that a child gets sick and gets onto the pharmaceutical hamster wheel.
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Host
Yeah.
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Gary Brea
The more profitable that is. Now, that doesn't mean that somebody is sitting in big Pharma and going, how can we make more children sick? But what it means is that the industry is built around maintaining that child's symptoms. Get them on the hamster wheel. We start with Adderall, Vyvanse, Ritalin, and then they're going to move to some kind of mood disorder.
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Gary Brea
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Host
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Gary Brea
Order stabilizing drugs like SSRIs, you know, in their pubescent or post pubescent years. And then comes the weight gain, water retention, the hormone imbalance which is going to lead to, you know, your metformins and and other chronic disease maintenance medications. And then by the time they're, you know, we're in our 50s and early 60s, you know, the average Americans on five pharmaceuticals.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
Which again is why I always throw that chart up there and I go when you're, when you have a condition like, you know, we, we, we label people with all these conditions, add adhd, ocd, manic depression, Bipolar autoimmune disorders. When you have one of these conditions, like if you have ADD or adhd, you're not deficient in Adderall, right? I mean, if you have high blood pressure, you're not missing a beta blocker. You're not. It's not because you don't have an ACE inhibitor in your body. You know, very likely it's because you have been nutrient deficient over a prolonged period of time. And now you're getting the expression of this condition.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
You know, I spoke at a bone strength conference. It was osteo strong a few months ago, and. And they're doing great things in the world. Taking people that have osteopenia, which is like the early stages of brittle bone disease, and which progresses to osteoporosis, which is really brittle bone condition, and just applying loads to their bones so their bones can strengthen. But we had this conversation about, you know, what does it take to actually form bone? Because, you know, you look at nursing homes across the country, and they are full of elderly men and women that have osteopenia or osteoporosis, brittle bone disease, and they've been taking calcium for 25 years. And it's not calcium. It's the other 12 minerals that we need to make bone, right? We take calcium, phosphorus, we combine these two. It forms something called hydroxyapatite, and you get a really hard bone. But in order for that bone to really ossify, there's 12 other minerals that are required. So if you're not just getting the basic minerals, now all of a sudden you're getting the expression of this condition, brittle bones. If you're. If you're missing vitamin D3, for example, the only vitamin that human beings can make on our own, you know, we make. We make vitamin D3, cholecalciferol, from sunlight and cholesterol. So if you're deficient in sunlight or cholesterol, for that matter, then you have a hard time making this vitamin that acts like a hormone called vitamin D3. And what are the consequences of that? Well, now your immune system's compromised. If you look at the. One of the second leading causes of morbidity and Covid it was a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3. So if we would just reframe the way that we think about aging and pathology and disease, as could these be prolonged nutrient deficiencies, then the message of hope really starts to resonate. I get a lot of flack because I sell a red light bed and I sell a mat called a pmf. Mat and this thing called hypermax. But the truth is, all of this expensive equipment, all it's really doing is mimicking what we're missing from Mother Nature. So I tell people all the time, you want it. You want to get it for free. Take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth. Right? Expose your skin to sunlight. Sun's not our enemy. The fact is, most of us are not getting enough sun. It's not that we're getting too much sun. If you look at the number of commercial sunscreens, I think there's 23 of them that have been pulled from the market since 2018 for directly causing cancer.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
And if you actually were to overlay a chart, and maybe I'll send you this chart so you can throw it on. Throw it on the podcast. If you were to overlay a chart of the incidence of the increased use of sunscreen and the rapid rise of skin cancer, you know, you would just see this oxymoronic message that says, well, if. If we're using sunscreen at 45 times or 50 times the rate that we were in 1980, shouldn't we have less skin cancer?
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Host
Yeah.
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Gary Brea
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Host
That was incredible.
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Gary Brea
Your question was.
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Host
I don't even remember it. We saw started off with soil, though. I remember that. Yeah, yeah. Do you think the soil problem is fixable or is it too far gone?
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Gary Brea
It is. You know, what's interesting is that I've been talking to several thought leaders in the space about this, you know, and what we would need to do to really fix the broken healthcare system. And the way that you fix the broken, broken healthcare system is you, first of all, you stop bathing people's cellular biology in a toxic soup. Right? You know, we have drugs like Ozempic and. And, you know, semaglutide and tirzepatide, which I'm not necessarily opposed to, but what they're being used for is a replacement for not taking responsibility for the toxic soup that got you to the place where you're morbidly obese or you're a type 2 diabetic. And. And so now if you take a pharmaceutical and you intervene and you don't clean up this toxic soup, you know, are we really doing what's in the best interest of that person by stripping weight off them? Most of the time you're actually not just stripping fat, you're stripping lean muscle mass and lean mass in general, including bone density. Or we'd be better served to talk to them about what it was that they did that got them there and trying to stop them from doing that. And I think that that's what's so exciting, is now we're moving into this era of big data, where you've got artificial intelligence that can take 700 trillion independent variables and create an actionable result. And the combination of artificial intelligence and big data and early detection, in my opinion, in the next five years is going to upend modern medicine in a way that is going to be catastrophic.
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Host
Whoa.
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Gary Brea
Because big data doesn't have an agenda, right? I mean, you look at how we built the foundation of modern medicine, it's built on the back of something called the randomized clinical trial. And I'm not attacking the randomized clinical trial science, but, you know, randomized clinical trials in the United States, we do. We do more here in the US Than, than any other country in the world. We did about 150,000 of these since 2008. And basically you come up with a hypothesis. Okay? Cholesterol is elevated so when LDL cholesterol is high, cardiovascular risk is high. So if we push LDL cholesterol down, cardiovascular risk comes down. And so we do this randomized clinical trial, we study a bunch of people in isolation, we. We come to a conclusion, which results in the FDA approving a pharmaceutical or a synthetic or some kind of chemical, and then we launch it in the population, and then we gather 10 more years of data and we realize that we really screwed up. Right? I mean, if you look at the reduction in all cause mortality from statin use, it's zero. If you look at the reduction in all cause mortality for mildly increasing somebody's mobility and exercise, it's 38%.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
So you mean I, if, if I had a drug right now that could reduce your all cause mortality by 38, the whole freaking world would be taking that. But we have it, right? It's just called Bobo.
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Host
So statins are zero.
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Gary Brea
Stat. The. The reduction in all cause mortality. And by the way, any of these, if you'll make a note, any of these that I refer to on the podcast, I'd like to, if we can link the study. Yeah, I'd like to link the study because, you know, I get a lot of flack about that. And again, I'm not just attacking big pharma or modern medicine or the health care system as being sinister. It's just that the way that we built this enterprise was to manufacture chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals to manage disease. The question is, why do we have so much disease? I mean, most of the people that are listening to your podcast right now, I would argue that they are walking around right now at about 50% of their true state of normal. Right. They've just forgotten how good normal feels. Right. And. And they've accepted some amount of either weight gain or some water retention or brain fog as a consequence of aging or. I, you know, I, I don't have the same response to exercise. I don't sleep very well. I'm a little bit stressed out. All I have aches and pains. You know, I'm in my 50s or my 60s, and my joints ache. And that's just because I'm getting older. None of that is true. You put the right raw material back into the human body, it thrives in ways that we can't even imagine.
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Host
Wow, that's exciting.
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Gary Brea
Yeah. So exciting.
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Host
Yeah. I know a lot of people with that victim mentality, though, you know?
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Gary Brea
Yeah. I mean, well, the whole society has that victim mentality. I mean, you know, if I, if I can get you to subscribe to the fact that you have a disease, especially a genetically inherited disease, which is another thing I take grave issue with, then I can get you to subscribe to a lifetime medication. And again, I'm not saying that medication is not necessary in many cases, but it is not what we should depend on to be optimally healthy. And when you have a society that has developed this notion that, well, my grandmother had high blood pressure, my uncle had high blood pressure, now I have high blood pressure, and even though the doctor can't tell me why I have high blood pressure, it's called idiopathic. I'm just going to accept that I need medication. Well, if you can't tell me what's causing it, then how can you be assured that this medication is what I need?
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Host
Right.
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Gary Brea
I mean, if you were able to define it and say this is specifically caused by this and this medication will prevent that from happening, that makes sense to me. But when you, when you bring a patient, you know, when a doctor sees a patient for any number of what we call genetically inherited disease, which again, I take big issue with, because we assume that because things run in families, that they are genetically inherited. And that's patently false. You know, when you see that hypothyroid or hypertension or certain forms of cancer or type 2 diabetes or drug and alcohol addiction or depression or any number of other things that does that do run in families, when we assume that these are genetically inherited conditions without having a gene to point to, we've mapped the entire human genome. So the things that are genetically inherited, we know exactly what they are. The BRCA gene does predispose women to an increased risk of breast cancer. It doesn't mean they're going to get breast cancer. But when we tell somebody that has hypothyroid because their family has hypothyroid that they inherited it without even having a gene to carry that condition, this is. This is a false narrative.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
And what it does is it makes people think that there's no other way out. Right. Because, hey, I'm trapped because of my family history. And the same is true with all kinds of conditions.
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Host
Yeah, Right.
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Gary Brea
And we just assume that because it ran in my family that I have it and now I need to subscribe to this lifetime of medication when the truth is that we actually rarely pass disease from generation to generation. Our DNA is specifically designed to not pass mutations on that are fatal or flawed. Now, they still get through. But when you look at how DNA replicates and divides, it kind of looks like a ladder that's been twisted. If you look at DNA inside of our cells and, and this ladder sort of unzips like a zipper.
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Host
Yeah.
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Gary Brea
And then it re. Zips again. And what is supposed to happen, and what happens 300 billion times a day in all of our cells is when these ladders start to line back up, when they don't perfectly align, the, the cell goes into something called S phase arrest. There's, there's something that actually stops that DNA from replicating. So we have not evolved to pass disease from generation to generation. We have evolved to pass the inability to refine a certain raw material which leads to a deficiency which causes that disease. And there's a significant difference here because, you know, once your genes has been imprinted with a disease, for example, then you're accepting man, well, I just have this and there's really no way out once I, Once you take the vantage point. Well, I inherited an inability to refine a raw material, for example, for the inability to take folic acid and turn it into the active form the body can use called methylfolate. So I inherited this inability to do this. So I have a deficiency in methylfolate. And this deficiency in methylfolate is leading to all of these conditions. Attention deficit disorder, poor focus and recall, poor short term memory, hyperactivity. All kinds of conditions that we got great labels for. But at the end of the day, what you inherited wasn't a disease. What you inherited was a nutrient deficiency. And if you knew what raw material was missing from your body and you could put it back in, you would see in many cases those conditions eviscerated. And so a lot of what I've been trying to message about is about just getting people back to the basics. Sunlight, grounding, breath, work, drinking clean water. Like what you got here. What's this life force going?
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Host
Hydrogen water.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, this is great. I'm a huge believer in hydrogen water. Just go to hydrogenstudies.com and you can go to this website, it's totally free. And you can actually select out the animal studies and just look at human trials. And you can see the reduction in inflammation, the improvement in circulation, the improvement in something called vasomotor activity, which is 70% of our circulatory system. You know, a lot of people don't even realize that 70% of our blood is not even circulated by our heart.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
None of us has a heart that's strong enough to get blood from our heart to the tip of our toes through our brain. And all the way through our organ systems. Liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys. None of us. The majority of our circulatory system, 70%, roughly, is done by what's called vasomotor activity, which is. It's kind of like a. Like a snake swallowing a mouse. And so you imagine, like this mouse kind of moving down the snake's body. This is how a bolus of blood is moved through these. This vascular system. So if you have compromised vasomotor activity because you are nutrient deficient, you think of all of these consequences that come from that. Right. Why do most people start wearing readers in their 50s? I'm 54, by the way. These are not readers.
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Host
Blue light blockers.
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Gary Brea
I know, but, you know, why didn't most people start wearing readers in their 50s? Not. It's not because their eyesight's going bad. It's because the vasomotor activity to the back of the eye is compromised.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
Right. So you start to restore vasomotor, and.
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Host
So you can restore vision.
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Gary Brea
No question. I mean, red light is a. You know, I was. I was on. Hope Joe doesn't mind that I throw this out there. But. But, you know, I was on Joe Rogan last year, I think, in November. And. And he ended up buying a red light bed. And when he started using the red light bed on a regular basis, and. And he's always messaging me going, bro, my. My eyesight is dramatically improving. It's like, it's literally getting better and better.
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Host
Oh, I need to get one.
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Gary Brea
It's not because it's fixing his eyes, because it's fixing the vasomotor supply to the back of the eye.
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Host
Interesting.
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Gary Brea
And so I don't even know where I was going with that. But.
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Host
Yeah, no, that's a cool, cool little tangent there. But that's exciting that you said that, because I had a friend literally last week, both his parents have cancer, and he literally told me, I know I'm going to get it one day, because both my parents have it. So you're kind of shifting that mindset.
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Gary Brea
Absolutely. Shifting that mindset. I mean, what is all cancer. All cancer is metabolic dysfunction in the cell. A cancer cell was at one time a healthy cell. Right. And what happened was there was a metabolic shift in the metabolism of the cell, and it became unhealthy. It became metabolically sick. Right. It. It, without getting too detailed, it switches its way of creating energy. Right. So instead of using oxygen, it will use carbon dioxide, it will use different forms of pyruvate lactate, and and so now this, this, this cell, which it was at one time healthy, has now become sick. So now we assume that once it's sick, it can't go back to being healthy again, which I believe to be patently false. And all of the quote unquote, miracle cures that we have around cancer are not miracle cures at all. It's just restoring the cellular biology to that cell. And, and then, you know, what we decide to do is we decide to poison that cell with chemotherapeutic agents. And generally, the broad idea around chemo is to take the host as close to death as possible and hope that you kill the cancer before you kill the host.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
And. But what if we actually looked at these cellular metabolism? What if we actually looked at what, what is leading to this explosive rate in cancers? I mean, we have the highest rate of childhood cancer in modern history. In measurable history, our life expectancy for the first time in 100 years is going backwards. And why is it, with all of these medical advancements and all these chemotherapeutic agents and early detection, why is it that we are still becoming so sick so fast? You're looking at autism rates going from 1 in 3,500 to 1 in 36 children. And so what is causing this skyrocketing rate? It's the continued depletion of nutrients in the human body so that now our cells do not have the raw materials they need to do their job. And I feel like if we would go back and focus more on what God gave us than what man made us, meaning, really study human physiology and, and studied the, the genesis of a lot of these conditions, you know, the pandemic of chronic disease in this country. We'd find that this is easily fixable, very easily fixable. I mean, most people are just not living healthier, happier, longer lives because of risk factors they can modify in their.
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Host
Yeah.
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Gary Brea
In their life.
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Host
Yeah. What do you think is going on with autism stuff? Because miscarriages are also up. So, like, do you think the woman's bodies are just being so impacted by all the toxic stuff?
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Gary Brea
No question. I mean, you know, we put women on birth control like Tiktoks, Tic Tacs now. I mean, you know, so, you know, if their period is inconvenient or if the, you know, or, you know, the risk of getting pregnant is inconvenient, then they're just going to take birth control. And we use lots of different kinds of birth control, sex hormone binding globulins, all kinds of things. To take a woman out of her normal menstrual cycle and essentially delete the portions that are inconvenient. And sometimes it, it makes perfect sense. I mean, there are, there are lots of young women that are suffering from conditions that need intervention. But when you have prepubescent teens that still haven't fully neuroplastic form the neuroplastic future of their brains, when you are chemically inhibiting their normal menstrual cycle, you know, their shift from ovulation to follicular to luteal, when you're interrupting the communication between the pituitary and the female organ system. And then we wonder why, you know, emerging from puberty, we're seeing skyrocketing rates of pcos and endometriosis and polyp formations and uterine wall fibroids and all kinds of conditions that we didn't even see 50 years ago. And so again, I, I think that those things have a role. But the first thing I would do if I were on a journey towards optimal health is I would just eliminate processed foods from my diet and I would eat a whole food diet. I would move more, I wouldn't be afraid of the sun. I'd touch the surface of the earth. I'd learn how to do some breath work, how to, I challenge my body. Cold water immersion, you know, cold showers, picking up heavy things, you know, not worrying about going outside because it's too hot or it's too cold.
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Host
You're not at the Brian Johnson level.
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Gary Brea
No, not the Brian Johnson level. And I think there's a place for that too. But again, you know, I'm, I'm really trying to message to the masses because I, I really see the, the dire strait that we're in. I read a statistic the other day and I'll have to dig it up, but I, but it's, if I recall it correctly, was somewhere around 77% of the recruits in the military couldn't, couldn't pass, like just a simple physical exam really. So, you know, we're losing, fighting soldiers because people don't have the basic level of fitness to even, you know, enter our armed forces. And so, you know, I think that what we know, what we're doing is not working and maybe a back to the basics approach is exactly what we need. Yeah, and I'm still, you know, I'm a biohacker at heart. I'm a scientist at heart. I mean, I love the research. I've, I've been deep down the rabbit hole of methylene blue and red light therapy and ozone treatments and all kinds of sophisticated modalities that I really do think can extend and prolong life. But before we start talking about those things, we got to make sure that the basics are covered.
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Host
Absolutely.
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Gary Brea
You can't, can't supplement your way out of a bad diet.
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Host
Yeah, 100%. I just got an eight sleep mattress.
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Gary Brea
Oh, I got one of those too.
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Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gary Brea
I track it and post it all the time.
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Host
Really?
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Gary Brea
Yeah.
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Host
So my one question about that is the, the EMF stuff because you need Bluetooth for it, right?
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Gary Brea
Well, yes and no. You know, it, it doesn't Bluetooth to your device and you can actually put your phone on the, on the nightstand. You can actually turn your phone off and it will. Oh, still read it next morning. But I actually, interestingly enough, I mean, I'm crazy about EMFs too. But the, I had an EMF tested and the, the unit where it plugs in does have. Create some electromagnetic smog, if you want to call it that. But all that goes into your bed are those rubber tubes that are full of, full of water.
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Host
Oh, wow.
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Gary Brea
So there's virtually zero EMF that you're. You're sleeping.
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Host
Nice.
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Gary Brea
So it actually is probably my favorite sleep device. And I track sleeps on a whoop and I track sleep on my eight sleep. But the nights that I'm on the eight sleep, I post them all the time. I mean, my scores are consistently between 98 and 100 because it will actually detect your, not just your respiratory rate, but it will also detect the different stages of sleep and it will move the temperature to hold you in those stages longer. So REM stage or deep sleep, and these are critical. I mean, if you're not sleeping is our human superpower. If you're not sleeping, nothing else matters. I mean, it is that critical. I mean, you want to talk about, you know, decreasing all cause mortality. I mean, you know, poor sleep in this country is another just pandemic. And if you talk to most people about their sleep routine, they actually don't have one. Right. You know, like, how do you prepare to go to bed? Well, I just go to bed, you know. What time do you go to bed? Well, whenever, when I get all my shit done. You know, like when I'm. Whenever it's the end of the day. Well, when's the end of the day? Sometimes ten, sometimes one in the morning. How far before bed do you stop eating? Well, whenever, whenever I'm done eating. You know, it's. We don't, we don't we don't protect sleep the way that we really should. You know, we have a routine for our exercise. We have routine to get the kids to school in the morning. Very few of us have a sleep routine. Very few of us have actually good sleep hygiene. I did a really interesting sleep. I won't call it a sleep study, um, but I did a. Every month I do these free challenges. So I'll get tens of thousands of people and we'll do like a cold plunge challenge or 10,000 step challenge or breathwork challenge. And they're always free. And I partnered with Whoop on this one particular challenge, and we sent whoops out to thousands of people. And we were able to get a baseline on people after 30 days, you know, their sleep. And. Which I think is very valid data because they were sleeping in their own environment, in their own bed, next to their own spouse, you know, in their own house, and you get a baseline on them. And then we made really subtle changes to their sleep routine. We just had them start thinking about sleep hygiene. Like, actually protecting my sleep routine. Like, for example, I schedule all of my meetings and travel around sleep and exercise. Really, all of them. I, I don't. My flights are. And, and, and my meetings are scheduled around sleep and exercise. So sleep is my first priority, exercise is my second priority. Then travel, then meetings.
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Host
Okay, so no red eye flights for you?
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Gary Brea
Never. I mean, I used to do plenty of them building the business, you know, I mean, and that's one of the, one of the blessings of, of success is you can make some of those choices. But. And there's a lot of people listening to this podcast that are in a position to make those choices, but they still don't. Right. But so what all we did was, we did. We started to measure a couple of really interesting basic metrics. We stopped eating two hours before bedtime. We surgically darkened the room. Right. Like I, you know, I had people go around and like, really try to remove every shred of light in the room. We dropped the temperature 2 degrees Fahrenheit. Some people used a sleep mask. The people that had a hard time falling asleep, we would use contrast therapy, which is just a really, really hot shower, as hot as you can stand it for about a minute and a half, two minutes, followed by a one minute ice cold shower. And just to break that catecholamine cycle in the brain. So like, it causes like a phase shift, contrast shift, and then no screen time in bed. And we saw sleep scores pop 28%.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
Across thousands and thousands of people. And these are like simple things that you could implement. But people just aren't thinking about their sleep routine. Right. It's not, there's no, you know, you could have a eight sleep mattress. I'm, I'm a huge fan of that too. But even without the fancy equipment, if you just said I'm going to, I'm actually going to start to protect my sleep. So I'm not going to eat two hours before bedtime. I'm going to sleep in a cold, dark room. I'm going to wear an eye mask, maybe even tape my mouth, which will actually improve the nitric oxide gas and a lot of other gases that actually will help hold you in deep sleep if you don't have any nasal issues. I'm going to do a contrast shower before I get in bed. None of those things will cost you a dime. If you can improve your average sleep score. 12 to 20% game changer for every facet of your life. Focus, concentration, short term recall, memory, waking energy, libido. You mean it's, it's at, it's, it's in deep sleep that the majority of our hormone cyclicing is cycling is regulated. It's when, it's when the glymphatic system in the brain is detoxifying. You know, not the lymphatic system in the body, but the actual waste eliminate elimination pathways in the brain. When, when, when the brain is actually getting rid of a weight cellular waste.
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Host
Right.
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Gary Brea
And detoxifying and repairing and regenerating. So if you could just add deep sleep to your arsenal. I mean that's a, that's a human superpower.
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Host
That's critical. Yeah. Part of the problem with college kids, they just sleep like four to six hours a day.
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Gary Brea
Yeah. And even, even the whole public health, public school system is completely upended. You know, what happens is in, in. And I dealt with this with my kids because they're, they're three years apart. So I would always have, you know, one, I had one in high school, one in grade school, one in elementary school or like one in kindergarten, one in, you know, grade school, one in middle school. And the script was totally flipped because the younger they were, the later they went to school. So that by the time they got to high school, it was like the earliest morning. I mean, yeah, 6:00am all three of my kids were zombies house in the morning, you know. And when I would drive them to school, I'd see the zombie parking lot. You know, in high school.
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Host
Like it's depressing.
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Gary Brea
Honestly, girls, they got their hair In a bun in there, holding on to a Starbucks coffee and just trying to get into class. And, and the truth is, you know, as, as, as they go through those teenage years, they need significantly more sleep. They're not lazy teenagers, they're sleep deprived teenagers. And if we actually looked at what would the impact, just the simple impact it would make if we flip the script. And younger kids went to school earlier and older kids, as they got to high school, actually got two hours more sleep. This would, this would be a game changer in the entire mental.
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Host
Wow, that's crazy. I always wondered why I was so early, man.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, they get sleep, you know, they get sleep deprived, they get stressed, they get cranky.
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Host
And college is almost as bad because you're just stressed. And so much homework and especially med school, man, those kids have it tough.
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Gary Brea
Oh yeah, they got it tough.
- [38:37]
Host
Super tough.
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Gary Brea
But you know, when, when, when we start to think about sleep being our superpower, we actually just start to pay attention to it. If you, you know, most people listening to this podcast, you really think about the last two weeks of your life, you will see that as your schedule got busier or more hectic, the one thing that you pushed around, that you bullied was your sleep.
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Host
So that's like number one in terms of priority.
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Gary Brea
Redheaded stepchild. That was, that was the part of your routine that was always compromised instead of the part of your routine that you vehemently protected.
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Host
Yeah, no one was really telling us how important it was growing up.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, nobody. And so, you know, hopefully, you know, you know, we want to make real policy change. You know, we would lobby, you know, public school systems, first of all, put physical education back in the schools. But, but secondly, to, to, you know, give these, give these kids the sleep that they need.
- [39:29]
Host
Absolutely. Have you dabbled with any Eastern medicine stuff?
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Gary Brea
Yeah, you know, I'm a huge fan of Eastern medicine too. You may, you know, this, most Eastern medicine is done by observation. You know, me, the oldest form of medicine in the world is called Ayurvedic medicine. It's, it's, it's Indian and it's all based on observation. You know, different categories. Pita, kapha vata. But it's astounding how much a good Ayurvedic practitioner can diagnose by literally just looking at you, having you stick your tongue out, looking at your ears, looking at the whites of your eyes, looking at your skin tone, looking at the patches of circulation in your skin, and literally narrow in on exactly what is going wrong. I think there's something to be said for medicine that is based on observation, you know, where you really observe a patient or a client and, and try to decide what's going on internally.
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Host
Yeah, I'm a fan of it. I know it gets a lot of hate on social media though. It does, like a ton of hate.
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Gary Brea
Because it's, you know, it's, it's so funny. Make it it, it, it kept societies healthy for longer than we are when we do right now. Um, and like I said, for the first time, you know, in, in modern medical history, our life expectancy is going backwards. Well, if spending equated to outcomes we would be going with, we'd be living to 140. Now I truly believe that if you're alive five years from today, you, you will have the choice to easily live to 120.
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Host
Really?
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Gary Brea
Years old. Oh, easily.
- [41:05]
Host
Holy crap. Yeah, because our telomeres are programmed to live to 120, right?
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Gary Brea
Yes, telomeres are programmed to live to around 120. And we know that there are things that we can do to lengthen our telomeres, one of which is to get our cellular biology out of the toxic soup that it's in. But there are now, you know, we're realizing the powerful implications of things like resveratrol and even peptides, telomerase enhancing peptides that can actually lengthen our telomeres. We map the entire human genome. While we can't go in and maybe fix genes, we can supplement for their genetic dysfunction. We can take 700 trillion independent genetic variables and create an actionable result. So it's possible now for people to not just supplement for the sake of supplementing, but to supplement for deficiency and the deficiency in their cellular biology. You know what's amazing is if all we did was test human beings for what their body was deficient in, and the only intervention we did was put the raw material back in their body that they are deficient in and got out of its way. You would see the evisceration of chronic disease. Right. But we don't. We believe so much more in what man makes us than what God gave us. And by what God gave us, I mean, you know, the, the basics that we find, you know, in, in whole food, clean diets and water that's not poisoned and soil that's not poisoned. And you know, all of the toxins that our body is not actually doesn't have mechanisms to filter out.
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Host
Right.
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Gary Brea
But if we cured these deficiencies, you know, sometimes when people see like journeys that I've been on with different clients. And, and for the record, I'm, I'm not licensed to practice medicine. I'm a human biologist. So I have all the respect in the world for the MDs and the practitioners that have, that are properly licensed to practice medicine. I have more than 40 of them that work for me on my clinic side. Um, so I don't engage in the practice of medicine. But what we see repeatedly is when you look at someone's blood work and you see certain blood biomarkers, Homocysteine, which is a normal amino acid, which can, in high, high amounts, can cause vascular constriction, leads to cardiovascular, increased cardiovascular risk, basic inflammatory markers like C reactive protein. When you start looking at people's blood work and you see that they have high homocysteine, they have high C reactive protein, they have a little bit of insulin resistance, they have high triglycerides, they have elevated blood sugars, their liver enzymes are a little elevated, so the liver's a little inflamed, a little irritated. Their filtration rates in their kidneys are a little down. What's called their egfr, their glomerul filtration rate. None of this jumps off the page at a physician, right? Until it collapses. And so you can just see the toxic burden that people are under. I mean, we've seen 100, I think we just crossed our 150,000th patient.
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Host
Wow, you got a lot of data.
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Gary Brea
We have a lot of data. And my intention is to publish this data in the next three years in a peer reviewed manner that is going to garner the respect of the scientific community. But what we're going to look at is real data in real human beings taking blood work and doing a genetic test and then solving for the genetic deficiencies with supplementation and then seeing what happens to the blood work, like giving the body a chance to correct itself right before we intervene. And I can promise you this is going to rock the foundation of the scientific community, in my opinion, because you're going to see some of the most dramatic shifts in the condition of somebody's biome just by giving their body the raw material it needs to do.
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Host
Wow. So simple. People overthink this stuff.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, they just, they overthink it. And I think it's, you know, it's exciting for me because it's like a message of hope. You know, look, we're just not as sick or diseased, as pathological as we think we are. Very often we're nutrient deficient, you know, and we all, we developed this mentality that a lot of these conditions are happening to us, right? Like if you have an autoimmune disease, for example, if you have Crohn's just to pick one, then you're supposed to believe that you woke up one day and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your colon. Okay? So now your immune system's dysfunctional, right? It's gone haywire and it's attacking your colon for no reason. Or you have Hashimoto. So you woke up one day and your immune system's attacking your thyroid or it's attacking the lacrimal gland in your eye, you have sugar, or any number of. Of autoimmune diseases. What if we actually took a step back and said, hey, before I believe that my immune system just went haywire? What if I said I'm going to take the position that God didn't make a mistake and that the immune system is here for a reason, right? So it's attacking the colon for a reason. I just need to figure out why. Why would my immune system wake up one day and manufacture antibodies to the colon? Well, I mean, the majority of these reasons are that there are pathogens or bacteria or viruses or metals or compounds that are in a location in your colon where they shouldn't be. And so the immune system gets called to that location and it's going after a pathogen. And in the act of going after this pathogen, it manufactures antibodies to that surrounding tissue, or even very directly, that pathogen is hiding inside of a cell. And in order to get into that pathogen, it manufactures an antibody to that cell, which is a friendly cell in your body. And now all of a sudden, you have an autoimmune disease. You assume the immune system's malfunctioning instead of assuming the immune system is properly functioning. It's just chasing a pathogen. And you should go figure it out so that through metals testing, viral testing, pathogenic testing, gut biome testing, you should go figure out why the immune system is attacking that pathogen and support it. And, and you know, what's, what's astounding is then, you know, our clinical team will see these. These antibodies start to calm down. People have Hashimoto's. Very often they have heavy metals embedded in their. In their thyroid. I'm not saying this is the only reason why they have these conditions, but it's. We instantly just assume the body is diseased and pathological and there's no way out, right? So now pharmaceutical chemicals, synthetic. That's our only choice rather than to go back and investigate why, why it's acting that way.
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Host
What's causing it.
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Gary Brea
And usually what happens in most people is they have one thing go wrong that causes everything. Rather than have this myriad of issues going on. Like, I've never met somebody that, that once in my entire career that did that had severe anxiety, that didn't also have gut issues.
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Host
Oh, wow, really?
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Gary Brea
Yep.
- [47:58]
Host
I mean, anxiety is linked to gut.
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Gary Brea
Oh. You show me somebody that suffers from very severe anxiety, I will show you somebody that deals with either gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, or cramping on a regular basis.
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Host
I mean, I had terrible anxiety in college and I was constipated the whole time.
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Gary Brea
There you go.
- [48:12]
Host
So that's crazy. I didn't even connect those.
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Gary Brea
I, I've never, not only have I never met one, I've never even heard of one. And in the hundred and fifty thousand patients that have come through our clinic system, when they report anxiety, they report gut issues. And, and why would. You know, it's interesting how we, we really look at the brain and the body as being completely separate, almost like they live in different rooms. Right. And we don't think that gut issues can cause mental health disorders, but this is absolutely the case. And, you know, we've destroyed our gut biome by, again, just putting our cells in a toxic soup. We've forgotten that we don't actually eat to feed ourselves. We eat to feed our bacteria.
- [48:52]
Host
Right.
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Gary Brea
And our bacteria feed us. And so if our bacteria are disrupted, then the conversion of food into compounds that the body can actually process is disrupted. You know, again, we're the last to eat. You know, by the time you eat, I don't know, a piece of chicken or piece of steak, and it goes through the process of being enzymatically broken down by bacteria. And then those amino acids cross into the bloodstream, and then eventually they cross the, the cell membrane and they start to be turned into energy, an energy source called ATP. It's not until that ATP is generated that we're actually fed. So we're the last in line to be fed. And, you know, when we look at this sequence of those events and when it's disruptive, we get this expression of all of these, you know, conditions. So, you know, again, I think that most of the time we can trace the ailments that mankind is suffering back to specific nutrient deficiencies. And what we're going to do with the studies we're publishing are we're going to take hard, objective Data like the 74 biomarkers in the blood. We're going to take hard genetic data, the five main genes of methylation, and we're going to supplement for the deficiency that those genes are, are unable to express. And then we're going to look at the blood. The bloods correct themselves in pools of tens of thousands of people. Because I'm much bigger believer in large data than I am of isolated clinical trials. Right. Like, just talk about the. Take the whoop example that I just gave where, you know, you and whoops doing this all the time. I just did a podcast with their Christian Holmes, who's their. On their sign scientific team. And it's astounding the data that they're getting through these devices and how you can do large pools of patients and get really actionable data. You take five people and put them in a sleep study at University of Miami and you send them to like this cold room that's one click shy of a jail cell, right? With some freaky creepy dude looking at them through the. Yeah, through a two way mirror, you know, and, and you put electrodes all over their head. You put electrodes all over their body and they're like, okay, Sean, sleep. And you're like, it's a freaking plastic mattress, bro. And you know, what about the creepy dude looking at me through the mirror, you know? And then, and then you take five people or eight people and, and you monitor their sleep. And then you were like, okay, there's a sleep study. We're going to take that and extrapolate it out to the whole population. Strap whoops or oars on people and measure a hundred thousand people in their own environment and start to make incremental changes and see how that impacts our sleep. That data to me is more valid.
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Host
Absolutely. That's exciting. These companies are going to change the game then.
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Gary Brea
They're going to change the game. Eight sleep aura. You know, all these, all of these data collection companies because not only are they able to collect the data, but they're able to collect the data on people in their natural environment. Right, right. It's not forced. It's not, it's not forced.
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Host
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of stuff on microplastics. How concerned are you with microplastics? They just found it in every testicle and I think all men, right?
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Gary Brea
Yes. I mean microplastics are a real issue. In fact, I'm working with a technology now which is based on kidney dialysis. It's a, it's a blood filtration device. My. Well, I should say my Clinical team, not me. And what it allows you to do is take the blood out of the body and basically run it through a filter, just like a dialysis patient would go through to save their kidneys or to do the function of what their kidneys can't do. And it runs through this filter, and it filters out the microplastics. It filters out the glyphosates. It also filters out a lot of mold spores, mycotoxins, even viral pathogens. And it allows the immune system to get a leg up from being so constantly busy fighting the debris that's in the blood. And it's really fascinating. I've been digging deep into the studies. Our clinic is really excited about using these on patients because these are restorative procedures where you just get all of the junk. The finding microplastics in coagulated arteries as well, both athero and arterial sclerosis, narrowing and hardening of the arteries, you know, so I think the microplastics issue is going to become a significant public health crisis because it's, you know, it's getting worse and worse. And if we don't have ways to get these microplastics out of the blood, first of all, you have to have a way to test for them so that you at least can measure whether or not you're having an, you know, effective outcome. But if we could get something like this blood filtration technology to a price point where it was either covered by insurance or available to the masses, you know, we could negate a lot of these environmental toxins that, you know, we otherwise are stuck with.
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Host
That's exciting. So how long do you have to be hooked up to it? Like, all day or.
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Gary Brea
It takes about 45 to 90 minutes.
- [54:08]
Host
Okay.
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Gary Brea
And it's once.
- [54:10]
Host
Just once a year.
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Gary Brea
Strips it. Yep. Right out of your. Right out of your blood. And. And my. My. I can tell you my clinical team is super excited about it because, you know, one of the sad things is, you know, a lot of these issues that we're facing, people don't feel like they have a choice or something they could do to address it. And that's the worst is to feel helpless. Like, well, I've got all these microplastics in my. In my body and affecting my cellular biology. What do I do? Well, there's nothing you could do for real.
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Host
I mean, they're finding glyphosate lasts for, what, decades?
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Gary Brea
Yeah. So if it's one. One of the worst. And it's. And it's, you know, it's, it's on the schedule, is generally accepted as safe. You know, which gets into the whole other issue about the corruption in our, you know, our funded research on nutrition, you know, the big foods influence on our research foundations that are funding nutritional studies and the National Institute of Health, which really should be a, an independent research institution, you know, in the best interest of the public. And. But when you allow private industry to influence public policy, you know, for its own gain, you end up where, where we are now.
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Host
Yeah. These companies have gotten so big. Right. That they just see it as like a penalty. They pay off the fee or whatever.
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Gary Brea
Yeah. I mean, Kelly Means talks about it all the time. I mean the biggest, the biggest mergers on Wall street and then in the 90s were tobacco companies buying food companies. So tobacco companies bought food companies. Now you have these massive, you know, food companies and what are they trying to do? Make cheaper, larger volumes of food. I mean, the outcome is not nutrition based. The outcome is volume based. And so this is, starts a whole era of genetically modified organisms, you know, genetically modified corn, soy and wheat. And when we genetically modify them, we're not genetically modifying them to improve their nutritional value, we're modifying them to improve their yield. And so if the, if the idea of expanding the food supply is purely for yield and profit and not for nutrition, this is, you see the consequences of this now. And I actually just did a podcast short where I put several of the studies looking at soil lineage studies, you know, looking at soil studies in the 40s, soil studies in the 80s, 90s and the early 2000, and you just see an absolute cataclysmic collapse of soil nutrition.
- [56:34]
Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
And the quality of the soil. And you can trace just about everything that goes in our mouth back to the soil. Right. Whether it's plant or animal based, doesn't matter. It begins with the soil. So when you begin in a nutrient deficient, on a nutrient deficient platform foundation, then you know, you again, you have these consequences of, of severe nutrient deficiencies in the populace.
- [56:58]
Host
Yeah.
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Gary Brea
And you know what's, what's exciting now is we're, we're, we're able to see these deficiencies and, and allow people to supplement for deficiency. And not just the sake of supplementing, because that's the other thing. I mean, you know, if you're just Joe Schmo public and you get out there on the Internet and you start looking around, what do I take for longevity? What do I take for anti aging? What do I take for bio optimism optimization? I mean it is a it is paralysis analysis. It's like NMN CoQ10, St. John's Wort, Ashwagandha, you know, CBD gummies, the endocannabinoid system. I mean, pretty soon you, you're just paralysis.
- [57:34]
Host
I was taking 40 supplements a day at one point. Yeah, I mean, that's too many.
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Gary Brea
And, and if you went through those supplements, I bet if I was to really ask you, you know, why were you taking this? What was the outcome you'd hope for? What nutrient deficiency is this addressing? You could just, you could cut your supplements down by 90 by saying, what deficiency is this supplement addressing? None. Okay, out it goes.
- [57:52]
Host
Right?
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Gary Brea
That's one of the things I like about Brian Johnson, and he gives me some flack sometimes online. He reviews my videos and stuff, but, but I actually like him. And I. And I think he's showing us what's possible. But what I really like about what he's doing, whether you love him or hate him, is that he's using data, right? He's, he's taken himself out of the picture and said, I'm not going to decide what's good or bad for me. I'm going to let data drive. You know, he talks about how all his supplements have to compete for their life. And I really appreciate that because he's, he's really looking at what deficiencies do I need to supplement with so that my body's running optimally.
- [58:33]
Host
Right?
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Gary Brea
And I think that's a great place to start. Now, being that regimen and discipline is, you know, practically not ever going to apply to them mass population. But it's still refreshing to see that somebody's actually using data and to decide what they're. They're supplementing with rather than just whatever they're sponsored by or, you know, whatever the hot new topic of the day is nmn, nicotinamide, riboside, what have you.
- [58:59]
Host
You got to do your research on supplements too.
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Gary Brea
You do.
- [59:01]
Host
They're finding heavy metals in some of those.
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Gary Brea
Finding heavy metals in a lot of them. I mean, now look, there are, there are picograms of heavy metals in just about everything. I haven't seen a cacao, for example, that doesn't have some level of metals. Very, very, very extremely low levels. Picograms. But sensitive enough equipment can detect that. And don't forget that not all metals are bad. I mean, light metals are great for us. We wouldn't survive without magnesium, zinc, vitamin B12, copper. But the, the heavy metals the body still can get rid of. It just methylates them very slowly. So I don't think we will ever be able to get our metal load to zero, but we can get our metal load down enough that the body can methylate those.
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Host
Right.
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Gary Brea
And get rid of that waste.
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Host
Are you seeing a lot of heavy metals in your. In your patients?
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Gary Brea
Tons. We actually just started doing heavy metal testing. And again, you know, I think like heavy metal testing, viral testing, you know, these, looking at mold spores, mycotoxins, these are great places for people to get the explanation of the unexplainable. So there's so many people that are suffering from different ailments, and they go into their doctor and their doctor's like, your blood work's fine. You look fine. Right. There's nothing in your blood work that tells me you have any kind of systemic or chronic condition going on. Your headaches are all in your head. Your muscle spasms are all in your head. Your gut dysbiosis is all in your head. Your shortness of breath, your dyspnea, your. Your. Your vertigo, your tinnitus, Your blood looks fine, but what very often doesn't show in the blood work are the heavy metal toxicities and the mold spores, the mycotoxins, and some of the viral pathogens. And so we are now implementing heavy metal testing in our. In our clinic for precisely that reason. Yeah, get these. Get these toxic outliers out of the way and then see how the body behaves. And normally, what you see is a complete correction of their symptoms.
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Host
Yeah, the blood work stuff is crazy because they compare you to the general population so you can appear healthy on blood work, but, yeah, you could get humbled in other ways.
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Gary Brea
And. And, you know, blood work is also based on population data. So as the population gets sicker.
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Host
Yeah.
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Gary Brea
The averages go down, you know, so it's like, you know, being in a college class that's graded on a curve. Right. So if everybody in the class got a C, well, then the highest C is now the A. Yeah. Right. So still an average student, but now they're the excellent student. And so when the population gets sicker, you take. You know, the averages get degraded. I mean, if you look at the. One of the largest hormone studies ever done on Mother Earth was during the Second World War, you know, and we use the same LCMS way of detecting testosterone now as we, very similar to what we did then. So they're valid numbers. And you look at all the GIs that were either recruited or enlisted, and they had hormone tests done. So your great grandfather and my, you know, my Grandfather, our great grandfather, were walking around with testosterone between 11 and 1400. Well, if you show up with 11 to 1400 on a blood test now your cardiologist is going to tell you, well, this is a risk for cardiovascular disease, prostate cancer, you know, all kinds of conditions.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
And the, the truth is that was the norm. But the population has, you know, our, our hormonal production has gotten so compromised over, over the decades that now the new norm is, you know, now we're at a C plus.
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Host
It's not like 400, the average now, right?
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Gary Brea
Yeah, even lower than that. I mean, wow. I think if you look at the LabCorp average, it's, you know, LabCorp total testosterone is between 260 and 240. 260 and 9. 960. So if you go over 960, you would be considered clinically elevated.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
Whereas if you were between 11 and 1400 during the Second World War, you'd just be average without hormone therapy.
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Host
Crazy.
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Gary Brea
And so it's, it's really interesting that as we get sicker, the, you know, the average is, the averages go down.
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Host
Yeah. Have you looked into VO2 max tests? I just had Dr. Andy Galpin on.
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Gary Brea
Yeah.
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Host
Last week, and he's saying that is a huge indicator of longevity.
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Gary Brea
That's one of the, probably, I would say one of, if not the greatest predictor of, of longevity, that lean muscle mass strength. But, you know, some of these basic predictors. But the truth is, yes, we are suffocating to death. Remember, we all leave this world the same way. We all die of exactly the same thing. We die of something called hypoxia, lack of oxygen to the brain. Now, it might be a gunshot wound, a heart attack, a stroke, a boss, you know, whatever, but the truth is, the definition of death is lack of oxygen to the brain. And we tend to think of it as an event, but it's not an event. It's actually a slow, predictable curve. Right. The more poorly you are managing oxygen, the faster you are accelerating towards the grave. The better you're managing oxygen, the longer you're going to live. Not only the longer you're going to live, but the healthier and happier life you're going to live. So we know that the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease. And what happens as we age is, you know, we, we don't sprint anymore. You know, a lot of us are not respiring, you know, actively, like really using our, what's called auxiliary muscles of respiration, our intercostals and so what happens is our posture changes, we start to collapse in on our lungs, we stop breathing with the lobes of our lungs, we start breathing with our apex and we slowly start to become more and more hypoxic and we essentially slowly suffocate. So VO2 max is a measure of your ability to shuttle oxygen around the body. And the more efficient you are at shuttling oxygen around the body, the longer you're going to live. Look at the blue zones. I mean, there was no continuity in diets in blue zones. The only consistency in all of the different types of diets in ultra centenarians was that they were all whole foods, right? Sardinia, one of the highest carbohydrate consumptions, one of the longest life expectancies. You got Singapore, one of the highest meat consumptions in the world, one of the longest life expectancies. The French are screwing it all up because they, they, they, they're drinking wine and smoking cigarettes and eating cheese and they're living forever. And, and you know, the Mediterranean diet. So there wasn't continuity in, in, in, in the source of food. So it wasn't a hyper specific diet like keto, paleo, carnivore, pescetarian, vegetarian. It was that these were whole foods. But what was directly correlated was their level of mobility, right? And their VO2 max. And in Sardinia, for example, their life expectancy was directly correlated to the slope of the hill that they.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
So when you got like 90 year old people like walking up a 37 degree incline, you know, 10 blocks to go to church and then four blocks over to the market and then back home, these people are living forever. And why is it because they're respiring.
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Host
Just from the hills, dude.
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Gary Brea
Oxygen is the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease. When oxygen enters the batteries in our cell called the mitochondria, and it gets used as a fuel source, it is 16 times more powerful than the alternate fuel source. So if oxygen enters the cycle, aerobic respiration, you get 36 units of energy. If oxygen doesn't enter the cycle, you get two units of energy. So just think of how important your, your respiring, your respiratory system is to your longevity, you know, and this is why even people that are deconditioned that this is why one of the reasons why saunas have such a positive impact, saunas will raise the heart rate of even a deconditioned person. I put my parents who are both elderly, that are both handicapped, my mom has bilateral knee replacements, my father's handicapped from a scuba diving Accident years ago. So when I say they're deconditioned, you know, they're not going on a treadmill or an elliptical or out for a five mile walk. So minimum, three days a week, they're in a dry sauna. I bought a hole in a dry sauna. I ran a nasal cannulas for an oxygen concentrator, and for 20 minutes they do very lightweights and their heart rate's raised in a dry sauna and called exercise with oxygen therapy. You can't even imagine the or, or get your arms around the difference in their cognitive function and their mood and their energy and their focus. And I mean, it's, it's incredible. So it's addressing VO2 max.
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Host
Yeah. That's exciting though, because Alzheimer's are at pretty high rates now. And, you know, old people seem to be forgetful these days.
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Gary Brea
Yeah, I mean, well, Alzheimer's, I mean, you know, is. Is really something called type 3 diabetes. If you Google type 3 diabetes, you'll see that, you know, insulin resistance in the brain is one of the factors that they believe is the genesis of Alzheimer's. It wasn't the neurofibrillary tangles and the amyloid plaques. These are the byproducts of a prolonged inflammatory cycle. Right. So when you have neural inflammation and you begin to get these neural fibrillary tangles and you begin to get the production of amyloid plaques, those are, those are the signs that Alzheimer's is there. But really the genesis of it began very often with insulin resistance. And, you know, insulin resistance in the brain is part of the reason why I think diabetic, type 2 diabetics have a nine fold increase in their incidence of Alzheimer's because our blood sugar is directly related to the amount of inflammation throughout our bodies. We blamed cholesterol, for example, cardiovascular disease, directly on cholesterol for decades.
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Host
Don't eat the egg yolks.
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Gary Brea
Don't eat the egg yolks. What is it? Only 15% of our cholesterol in our blood comes from our diet. 85% of it's made by the liver. But we have this theory that, you know, every time there's a fire, the firemen show up. So if we had less firemen, we'd have less fires. That's kind of the cholesterol myth. You know, every time you have damage to the endothelial wall of your artery, every time you have damage to your arteries, cholesterol shows up. Right? To fix it, to patch it. So if you had less cholesterol, would you have less damage to the arteries. If you had less firemen, would you have less fires? No. They were called to that location because of the inflammation. Cholesterol, in my opinion, also gets a bad rap because it's one of those compounds to construction material in the human body. We use it to make cell walls, cell membranes, to make nearly every hormone in the human body. But it also gets called to the site of damage. It didn't. It didn't light the fire. Right. The fireman didn't light it and then show up and put it out. It got called because there was a fire. So cholesterol gets called to the site of damage and inflammation, which is very often the consequence of high blood sugar. I mean, high blood sugar is the root of all evil. That's what the Bible should say. Blood sugars are root of all evil, not the love of money. I got a fun one, guys.
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Host
I got a fun one. We could wrap up here.
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Gary Brea
Okay.
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Host
I was talking to Madison, your daughter right there. So I don't think you've ever been asked this, but did you used to own a nightclub?
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Gary Brea
That is such a random question, Madison. Are you dishing growing up? Yeah, I did. I own a nightclub in Miami beach called Mint Proud to say it's one of the longest running nightclubs in Miami Dade County.
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Host
Wow.
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Gary Brea
But all of the byproducts of owning a nightclub are terrible because it catered to every vice that a man could have. So that ended in divorce and bankruptcy.
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Host
Oh, wow.
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Gary Brea
Yeah. But. But still a really, really interesting time. And I was. I was always working in the life insurance space, and I. I think that I was. I was just so inauthentic and so bored at that point in my life. I was always looking for that stimulus, and I thought maybe buying a nightclub, you know, would be the right thing to do financially. That worked out well, sort of ethically and morally, it was the worst decision I ever made.
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Host
You've done a total 180?
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Gary Brea
Yeah, total 180. That was 2000. That was 2005 to 2008.
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Host
Wow. So you were a part of your. Back in the day. Let's go, Gary. It's been cool. Where can people find the podcast and what you're up to, man?
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Gary Brea
Amazing. The ultimate human dot com. You know, they. They can just look up for the ultimate human everywhere that they watch their podcast and they can go to the ultimate human dot com. Sign up for my newsletter. I have a free newsletter I write every. Every week, just trying to get this information out. And, you know, I'm not stupid enough to think I can do it on my own, but I'm smart enough to know that I can build an army of people to get. Get the message.
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Host
Absolutely. Link below. Thanks for coming.
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Gary Brea
Awesome, brother. Great jam.
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Host
Thanks for talking. Thanks for watching, guys. See you next time.
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Gary Brea
It's just science.