David Cooley Calls Out Destiny For Being Scared To Debate? | DSH #1978

Summary

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Digital Social Hour – Episode Summary

Episode: David Cooley Calls Out Destiny For Being Scared To Debate? | DSH #1978
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: David Cooley (No Fugazi Podcast)
Date: May 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Digital Social Hour features a candid and unfiltered conversation between host Sean Kelly and dating coach, debate host, and social media personality David Cooley. The discussion centers on Cooley's provocative entry into the debate world, his approach to "bloodsport" debates, the challenges of booking guests—especially liberal women—and his sharp takes on free will, modern dating, feminism, and public figures in the debate and podcast spaces. Throughout, Cooley calls out other prominent debaters—especially Destiny—for allegedly being hesitant to face him in philosophical debates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. David Cooley’s Debate Origins and Style

• Transition to Debates:

  • Cooley began debating on audio app Clubhouse during the COVID-19 lockdown, first about politics, mask mandates, and later about dating and relationships.

    “...so working from home at the time and started to go in there and just started to. Because, you know, Clubhouse is an app where there's no video, it's only audio.” (02:58)

  • Invested in podcasting in 2023 to pursue the strategy of "smuggling in a little God" during relationship discourses before shifting fully into debates.

• Bloodsport Debate Defined:

  • Informal, tough-minded style with ad hominem allowed.

    “...blood sport debate is not really the mentality that you want to win the debate. It's the mentality that you're not so sensitive...you’ll dish it out, but you're, you know, man enough to take the shot back...” (03:45)

  • Enjoys both informal "bloodsport" and formal debate styles.

Notable Quote:

“Clubhouse was bloodsport. It was bloodsport debate.” – David Cooley [03:21]

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2. The Rise of Debate Culture

• Growing Popularity:
  • The “debate world” is rapidly gaining traction, with more podcasts, shows, and platforms like Modern Day Debate entering the space.
  • “Word war debate” is emerging; Cooley foresees this as a new frontier in online content.

    “The debate world is growing, man...I think that's the next thing.” (05:15)

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3. Notable Debaters & Their Strengths

• Top Contenders:

  • Andrew Wilson: Most well-rounded debater—politics, religion, culture.

    “Currently right now. Andrew Wilson's best. Best debater.” (04:33)

  • Jay Dyer and Jim Bob: Strong in apologetics and specific topics.

• Cooley’s Critique of Others:

  • Alex O’Connor: Not in his top three, believes his style wouldn’t last in “bloodsport.”

    “...if you put him up against Jim Bob, if you put him up against Andrew Wilson, he. He is. He's not going to be. Be able to defeat the tag argument, which is the transcendental argument for God. It's undefeated.” (08:03)

  • Cooley singles out Destiny, suggesting he's “scared of the philosophical debate but I will take him in that round.” (17:40)

Notable Moment:

“He’s a little scared of the philosophical debate, but I will take him in that round.” – David Cooley on Destiny [17:40]

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4. Booking Guests: Challenges with Liberal Women

• Booking Patterns:
  • Liberal men are more responsive and willing to debate, even if hesitant.

    “Liberal men...at least they'll like engage to see if it can happen. But the liberal women, man, most of the time it's no reply. They'll read the message, no reply back. Or they're asking for money.” (10:05)

  • Has never paid, or covered major expenses, for guests.

    “I've never paid. I did a...podcast had at least probably over 800 girls...And I've never paid a girl to be on the show.” (10:28)

  • Only minor compensation like Uber fare is offered.

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5. Philosophical and Religious Debates

• On Free Will vs. Determinism:
  • Cooley believes in free will: “God is the first cause...created human beings to have the ability to be the secondary cause.” (11:22)
  • Arguments against determinism often center around God’s omniscience vs. His control over actions.
    • Uses the movie analogy: Knowing outcomes doesn’t mean causing them.

      “If me and you [are] watching a movie, but I watched the movie before you...Would you think that I caused the people in a movie to behave that way? No, you would just think that. I know it.” (13:42)

    • Emphasizes the distinction between God knowing vs. causing actions.

      “Knows it, but he doesn't act it.” (15:26)

  • Notable Debate Anecdote:
    • Cooley describes debating Xena on these topics, resulting in her “rage quitting.” (15:31, 16:15)
    • He says about debate tactics: “What I'm really good at is semantics...very good at active listening...I'll argue their position and defeat them internally.” (16:45-17:08)

Notable Quote:

"That's deadly...you're using their own argument against them." – Sean Kelly [17:10]

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6. Debaters Cooley Wants to Face

• Wish List:
  • NotSoErudite
  • Destiny (“He's a little scared of the philosophical debate...”)
  • Parker, Dean Harry Sissom, “any other feminists out there”
  • Less interested in Candace Owens due to overlapping beliefs, but suggests some points of contention over dating and relationships.

    “Our worldview, we tend to agree on most things. I would say that we disagree on very few things.” (18:20)

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7. Views on Modern Dating & Gender Roles

• Traditionalist Stance:
  • Strongly upholds traditional family roles—his partner does not work outside the home.

    “No, my woman doesn't work. She stays at home with kids, take care of the kids, and I'm the one that works.” (20:57)

  • Both host and guest express skepticism regarding two-income households, referencing societal changes, inflation, and workplace influences.
  • Argues it’s better for children and more stable for relationships if women don’t enter the external workforce.

Notable Quotes:

“If since I have money, I don't want my woman listening to another man, it's pointless. I'll have my woman work for me.” – David Cooley [21:20]

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8. Parenting, Media, and Cultural Influence

• Concerns About Media:
  • Warns against exposing kids to Netflix and “LGBTQ propaganda”; recommends avoiding public schools and limiting screen time.

    “...they got a lot of hidden propaganda and agendas on there to indoctrinate children with the LGBTQ stuff.” (21:53)

  • MrBeast’s content is praised as innovative, separated from lifestyle/political critiques.

    “...as far as his content with the Mr. Beast games, I mean, he's the best one doing it.” (22:40)

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Timestamps for Core Segments

• Clubhouse & Debate Origins: 01:28 – 03:45
• Bloodsport Defined: 03:45 – 04:28
• Debate Industry Growth: 05:09 – 06:59
• Top Debaters: 04:33 – 05:39
• Alex O’Connor & Destiny Critique: 07:31 – 08:48, 17:40
• Booking Women Guests: 09:49 – 10:54
• Free Will vs. Determinism: 11:20 – 15:29
• Debate Tactics & Rage Quits: 15:31 – 17:08
• Debater Wish List: 17:15 – 18:36
• Tradition and Gender Roles: 20:44 – 21:41
• Parenting & Media Culture: 21:41 – 22:51

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

“Clubhouse was bloodsport. It was bloodsport debate.” – David Cooley [03:21]
“I made the first one. I. I lost. I missed my second one, but yeah.” – David Cooley, on basketball warmup [01:04]
“He’s a little scared of the philosophical debate, but I will take him in that round.” – David Cooley on Destiny [17:40]
“If since I have money, I don't want my woman listening to another man, it's pointless. I'll have my woman work for me.” – David Cooley [21:20]
“Knows it, but he doesn't act it.” – David Cooley, on God and free will [15:26]
“That's deadly...you're using their own argument against them.” – Sean Kelly [17:10]
“...never paid a girl to be on the show.” – David Cooley [10:28]

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Closing

David Cooley invites listeners to join his open debate panels (Tues & Thurs, 7 PM EST on YouTube, No Fugazi Podcast). The episode leaves listeners with a clear sense of Cooley’s style—direct, unfiltered, and always combative—highlighting his readiness to debate nearly anyone, especially Destiny, in a no-holds-barred philosophical exchange.

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Transcript

[David Cooley]

But when it comes to women, they just feel like they're so special. It's like, am I being compensated for this debate? No. Like, if you really believe in the things that you say, just let's debate. It's going to be virtual anyway. You don't got to fly out or anything like that. Let's just do a virtual. I'll even let you pick the moderator.

[Podcast Host]

David Cooley, known as the host of the no Fugazi podcast, is a social media personality and dating coach.

[David Cooley]

He creates content focused on relationship advice and debates, gaining attention on TikTok and Instagram for his direct and often controversial

[Podcast Host]

takes on modern dating.

[David Cooley]

I tend to have a better response and outcome of getting the liberal men on the show rather than the liberal women. The liberal women, men, most of the time, they'll read the message, no reply back, or they're asking for money.

[Podcast Host]

All right, guys, out here in Atlantic City with David Cooley on your side of town, man. Nice to meet you.

[David Cooley]

Nice.

[Podcast Host]

You got some shots up for a little bit?

[David Cooley]

Yeah, we gotta. You put up a couple shots up, man.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. You made the first.

[David Cooley]

I made the first one. I. I lost. I missed my second one, but yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You hoop a lot here?

[David Cooley]

I used to, man. So I'm about 6 4.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[David Cooley]

As you're saying, when we walked in, I'm like, all right, this guy's taller than me.

[Podcast Host]

It doesn't happen often, right?

[David Cooley]

Doesn't happen often, but yeah, I used to hoop in high school and in college, so.

[Podcast Host]

Nice. These days you're debating though, now, right?

[David Cooley]

These days I'm doing debates. I'm doing dating and relationship shows.

[Podcast Host]

So.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

How did that transition happen?

[David Cooley]

So I started the show in 2023, and this was when the Great Awakening happened. Well, actually, prior to the Great awakening, which is COVID 19, where everyone. When much. A lot of information started to be exposed out there. I started debating on Clubhouse. So prior to me even doing a podcast, this was about 2020. I started doing debates on Clubhouse because we were. We were locked in our houses and we were debating on mask mandates and debating, you know, why we're locked down for so long. So I was doing those type of political debates, and I was also doing some dating and relationship type debates too, in Clubhouse. And then. And 2023 is where I invested, like $40,000, bought a bunch of equipment. Really didn't have any direction of what I wanted to do, but I'm like, you know what? I like debating. Let's bring some girls on the show. Let's talk Dating and relationships. So I went that route, started doing that. But the idea was very strategic. It was always to smuggle a little God in there and then transition into doing debates. Okay, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So you bring religion into the debate.

[David Cooley]

Always was bringing religion into. Even the dating and relationship type conversation. Still bringing religion in there. And then also, you know, I fully started doing debates after eight months of dating and relationship shows. So. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. And were you pretty. Did you have debate experience prior to this?

[David Cooley]

Nah, nah. So in 2020, just on clubhouse, I'm like, we all. We locked down, right? So working from home at the time and started to go in there and just started to. Because, you know, Clubhouse is an app where there's no video, it's only audio.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Cooley]

So there's rooms. I would just go into these rooms and just start debating people.

[Podcast Host]

And I feel like because there's no video, people were so much, oh, yeah,

[David Cooley]

it was crazy in there. Like, like Clubhouse was bloodsport. It was bloodsport debate. So, like, I'm like, okay, this is interesting. And then pretty much like the debate style that I engage in now, some would call bloodsport debate. Like Andrew Wilson and many other people in this debate space, they call it bloodsport.

[Podcast Host]

And is that basically the mentality of, like, you want to win the debate?

[David Cooley]

Well, blood sport debate is not really the mentality that you want to win the debate. It's the mentality that you're not so sensitive. Like, there's many different styles of debates. One, this is a form of, like, informal debating. It's not like formal debating, which I did participate in formal debating as well. But the informal debating is as far as bloodsport is basically the idea that you're not so sensitive. You'll, you know, do some ad hominem attacks and, you know, you'll dish it out, but you're, you know, man enough to take the shot back and dish it out, but still articulate your argument and stuff like that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Who are the best debaters you've ever seen?

[David Cooley]

Best debaters, I would say, ever seen. Currently right now. Andrew Wilson's best. Best debater.

[Podcast Host]

I agree. Yeah, I, I got to moderate with. I don't know if you saw that one with him and coach Greg Adams.

[David Cooley]

Seen that one? Yeah, did see that one. Um, that was an interesting debate. That was an interesting debate. But yeah, I would say Andrew Wilson currently, as far as being real well rounded, he can do, you know, political debates. He can do. He can even do religious debates. He can do culture type debates. He can debate on anything, which is really good. He's well versed, so I'll give to him.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's why I think it's. It's going to him because like you said, he's well versed. It's not well verse one topic.

[David Cooley]

It's other people. That's great. Like, I'll like for like, like, apologetics, I would say Jay Dyer is great. Jim Bob, he's great on debating evolution and many other, you know, debate topics as well, too. But, man, the debate world is growing, man.

[Podcast Host]

Is growing, dude. It is. It is growing. I think that's the next thing.

[David Cooley]

I think it is. And it's funny because people was like, yo, did you like, like, what was your like, Are you just like, going into this space to like, you know, just to see where you're at? I'm like, no, bro. Like, I was debating prior to me even doing the girls show, and it was.

[Podcast Host]

You weren't even recording your club. Yeah, I think it's the next streaming.

[David Cooley]

I think it's gonna be the next thing. And we can even see with, you know, word war debate coming in. When I was in, I was at modern.

[Podcast Host]

Modern day debate.

[David Cooley]

Modern day debate in Nashville about two months ago, or even I think it was last month. That was two months ago. And I met some of the folks that. That was starting up the word war debate, and they, you know, it's like, hey, man, cool. Yeah, I see what you're doing, man. I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm out here trying.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, no, it's growing, man. I mean, I'm pumped for tomorrow. You got modern day debate, you got uncensored America.

[David Cooley]

Uncensored, Uncensored America. Modern day debate. You got. And then, and then, not only that, those are the big ones, but then you also have like all of these podcasts that's bringing on people to debate too. Yeah, even Rogan Rogan, you got, you know, whatever podcast, they're setting up debates and stuff. That too got fresh, unfit. They did a few Muslim versus Christian debates, so everyone is getting into it.

[Podcast Host]

Have you done the Muslim vs Christian one yet?

[David Cooley]

I haven't. I haven't debated. So as far as, like, apologetics, I wouldn't say that. That's my expertise. Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm a theologian or anything like that, but I like to debate dating of relationships. I do politics, I do religious debates. As far as, like, the. The creation standpoint. So, like, I'll debate an atheist and we'll debate, you know, is morality objective or Subjective like that. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So very targeted.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, very targeted.

[Podcast Host]

We got to get you against Alex o'. Connor. I think he's in my top three, so.

[David Cooley]

Alex. He wouldn't be in my top three.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[David Cooley]

Nah, he's not.

[Podcast Host]

I think he's really good.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, he wouldn't be in my top three.

[Podcast Host]

Let me hear why.

[David Cooley]

I mean, one of the reasons I don't think that. I think he's. Well, one. Even though you can be wrong on something, you can still have like a skill. I think. I don't agree with him, so I think that he's wrong on his beliefs, but I don't think that he would do good in bloodsport.

[Podcast Host]

Interesting. So you think so.

[David Cooley]

So bloodsport is a different environment, Right. Like, if you put him up against Jim Bob, if you put him up against Andrew Wilson, he. He is. He's not going to be. Be able to defeat the tag argument, which is the transcendental argument for God. It's undefeated. So it's like I'm not a fan of him at all. I don't dislike him, but I think that he's. He's an okay debater, right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Different formats, right.

[David Cooley]

It's like a different form, but if you put them against someone that's a little bit more aggressive, that's really going to tackle everything. Every argue. Every single point that he makes is going to be hard for him to really.

[Podcast Host]

I could see that.

[David Cooley]

Stay on his own ground.

[Podcast Host]

He's used to the more structured style, right?

[David Cooley]

Super, super structured, which is fine. I think that he'll definitely. I wouldn't say that he's a bad debater, but. Yeah, but when it comes to women, they just feel like they're so special. It's like, well, yeah, well, am I being compensated for this debate? No. Like, if you really believe in the things that you say, just let's debate. It's going to be virtual anyway. You don't got to fly out or anything like that. Let's just do a virtual. I'll even let you pick. I'll even let you pick the moderator.

[Podcast Host]

You and Myron are really. I try to set up debates for Myron. I don't know if he's told you this, but like, yes, people just back out. Dude, he was supposed to debate here.

[David Cooley]

Oh, he was?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, he was supposed to debate. I don't know if I'm supposed to reveal this, but it. He was supposed to debate Adam Mockler.

[David Cooley]

Who's that?

[Podcast Host]

He's like a upand cominging political guy on the left, I'd say.

[David Cooley]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

If you saw his face, he just went on Jubilee and did a one on 20. Okay, nice. But, yeah, he was supposed to debate Destiny at Turning Point a couple weeks ago.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And that got cancelled. Just people back out, man.

[David Cooley]

Yeah. Yeah, people back out. And it's more like I. Yeah, I really don't know what's going on. As far as the men. I tend to have a better response and outcome of getting the liberal men on a show rather than the liberal women.

[Podcast Host]

That makes sense.

[David Cooley]

Like liberal men, even if they don't want to debate or even if they're like, you know, a little hesitant, they'll at least respond back. They'll be like, oh, well, that doesn't fit me. At least they'll like engage to see if it can happen. But the liberal women, man, most of the time it's no reply. They'll read the message, no reply back. Or they're asking for money.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Have you ever paid?

[David Cooley]

I've never paid.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I don't think I ever would.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, I never paid. I did a. So I do my dating and relationship podcast had at least probably over 800 girls. Maybe even. Maybe could be even a thousand girls on the show. And I've never paid a girl to be on the show. Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, not even.

[David Cooley]

And girls always ask for not even flights. The most we compensated was like, will reimburse you for an Uber.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I'm the same way, bro. Maybe an Uber, maybe a ride. I'm not covering your flight, though.

[David Cooley]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Podcast Host]

You're on your own. Yeah. You. Your bread and butter is the feminist stuff. Right. Like, that's your strongest stance.

[David Cooley]

So I would say the feminist stuff. I debated Xena the other day on. We had two topics. It was can we ground morality without God? And then we also debated predeterminism or determinism. So I get into baits like that as well. Okay. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So what's your stance on determinism?

[David Cooley]

I believe in free will. So I don't believe that things are determined or predetermined. Wow. Yeah. I believe that God is the first cause. God caused everything, created the universe, and then God created human beings to be special and he created human beings to have the ability to be the secondary cause. Right. So if God. So some people believe that. Oh, well, since God created everything, he caused everything. He causes the good and the evil. He causes the good and the bad. We don't have any free will. But in my worldview, I don't believe that that's the case, I think that God created us to have free will, so we have the ability to be the secondary cause. Meaning that since we're the secondary cause, the things that we do, whether if it's bad or good, God isn't causing that, we're causing that ourselves.

[Podcast Host]

Interesting.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So when it comes to chance and luck, is that you creating it on

[David Cooley]

your own chance and luck? And luck is a funny word. Yeah, those are words that's like, you know, could be a little superstitious as far as luck, I would say, but no chance. Like as far. We all have the nurture in nature. So, you know, people. And not only just the nurture nature, we also have the ability of pattern recognition. So you can recognize some patterns and predict an event. Pretty good. Because based off your experiences. And what like say if you're dating a girl.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, right.

[David Cooley]

You dating this chick and you dealt with girls like this before, that builds up a pattern recognition.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[David Cooley]

Then you date another girl that's similar, you probably gonna know the outcome. She for the streets. She ain't really looking for nothing serious. So it's like some people be like, let's see, we can pretty much like predict their behavior and know certain behavior. Well, no, that's just pattern recognition. That's just us gaining information based off of our experiences. But this isn't truly knowing something guaranteed and like 100% to be a fact. Right. So some people have the idea that, well, since God knows everything, God causes everything. Well, no, I know every day the sun is going to come up. Does that mean that I caused the sun to come up?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[David Cooley]

Right. I know. Like, say if me and you watching a movie, but I watched the movie before you. I'll know what people are saying before they even say it in a movie. I'll know who dies before they die. And I can verbalize this and say it. Would you think that I caused the people in a movie to behave that way? No, you would just think that. I know it. Yeah. Right. So most people, when they believe in. When they don't believe in free will and they believe that everything is predetermined, they are not really thinking outside the box.

[Podcast Host]

Wow, that's such an interest. That's a really good analogy.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I've never heard someone explain it like that, but that makes a ton of sense.

[David Cooley]

Yep.

[Podcast Host]

Because it's almost like you've. You've seen it before and you could just.

[David Cooley]

You've seen it before. So like, that's the thing. Like, then also people, the way they believe in God. They don't believe that God is all powerful. Well, God is not bound by time, space or matter. He's omniscient. He's divine. So therefore he has the ability to know the beginning and know the end, but also create human beings in a special way to have a secondary cause where he's not causing human beings to do things, but he knows what we're going to do.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[David Cooley]

Because he's not bound by time, space or matters.

[Podcast Host]

So if he knows what we're going to do. Is that from beginning to end, you're saying?

[David Cooley]

Or from beginning to end? Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So wouldn't that be determined?

[David Cooley]

That would be. Well, the definition of determined, predetermined or determination would be that it's controlled. It's caused by God.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[David Cooley]

Yeah. So most people would think that. Well, since God knows everything, he has to cause it.

[Podcast Host]

Got it.

[David Cooley]

That's two different. Like I see what he's saying causing the same thing as knowing. No, it's two different.

[Podcast Host]

He knows it, but he doesn't act.

[David Cooley]

Knows it, but he doesn't act it. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Interesting.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. She thought she could debate on that.

[David Cooley]

Yeah. I just did a debate with Xena on that yesterday. And she rage quit.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I don't think.

[David Cooley]

A few days ago, actually.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I gotta watch that because she doesn't strike me as someone that has knowledge in that space.

[David Cooley]

Well, the thing is, she debated dph.

[Podcast Host]

Dph.

[David Cooley]

David Patrick Harris on the. Whatever channel. And they debated. I believe the debate was about predeterminism or somewhere around that. That. That area. And yeah, it's. It's. It's in her. You know, it's in her debating, you know, I would say a repertoire. She can do that. But she ended up rage quitting at about a hour and a half of debating.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. It was virtual or in person?

[David Cooley]

It was virtual. It was virtual. And I even offered. I said, listen, we can do it in person. You know what I mean? So. But yeah, she said no.

[Podcast Host]

How often does that happen when someone quits?

[David Cooley]

So rage quit. I had. I think some of the people you named on there. I had rage quit. Oliver. Rage quit.

[Podcast Host]

Who else?

[David Cooley]

Rage quit. It doesn't. I probably had about. In regards to the Jubilee debate is probably about four or five of them. Rage quit.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's a lot. Yeah. So you're good at kind of riling.

[David Cooley]

So what I. What I'm good at my tech. What I'm really good at is semantics. But semantics is very important.

[Podcast Host]

Like definitions.

[David Cooley]

Definitions. The things that you Say so. I'm very good at active listening, so someone would say something. I'll go ahead and repeat it back. And then based off what they say, I'll do an internal critique, and I'll argue their position and defeat them internally.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[David Cooley]

So that's what I'm very good at.

[Podcast Host]

That's a good.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Because you're using their own argument against them.

[David Cooley]

Own argument against them. Yep. Wow. Yep.

[Podcast Host]

That's deadly. Is there anyone you want? Do you have a list of people that you want to debate?

[David Cooley]

Yeah, man. Who do I want to debate? I would say I wanted to be not so erudite.

[Podcast Host]

I'll try. I'll try.

[David Cooley]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

My best.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, we can set that one up maybe at debate.

[Podcast Host]

Or World War Debate 2.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, yeah, we could set that up. I'll debate her. I'll debate. Who else? I'll debate Destiny. He's. He's a little scared of the philosophical debate, but I will take him in that round.

[Podcast Host]

I could set that up.

[David Cooley]

I'll debate Destiny. I'll debate who else is out there, man. I'll debate Parker. I'll debate Dean Harry Sissom. I'll debate. Yep. I'll debate him as well. What other feminists is out there?

[Podcast Host]

Not many. Yeah.

[David Cooley]

Not many. I kind of hide them right now, but yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What about Candace?

[David Cooley]

Candace Owens?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[David Cooley]

Our worldview, we tend to agree on most things. I would say that we disagree on very few things. So it would have to be a specific topic that we would debate about. And the topic probably won't even be that interesting.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. She's Christian. She's conservative.

[David Cooley]

Well, it'll probably be on, you know, in the lines of dating and relationships, because I think that we disagree on certain aspects there. Like, for example, her take on when she asked Nick the question when she was interviewing him, and she asked him, like, you know, well, why aren't you married? And things like that. Like, her view of it of, like, she was trying to shame him for it. Right. But it's like. Like he's a virgin.

[Podcast Host]

So, like, by choice.

[David Cooley]

By. By choice. You get what I'm saying? So it's just a little bit different there. So, um, and then the whole thing with Steven Crowder and her take on that, where. When he was going through the situation with his wife and she kind of threw him under the bus. So her take on the relationship aspect is just. It's a little feminism there. Like a little covert feminism there, but interesting. Yeah, that's what that. At least that's what I assessed. But other than that we agree on most things.

[Podcast Host]

So she was getting that covert feminism claim in her jubilee debate. I don't know if you saw that, but she debated 20 feminists and people were saying, wait, you're kind of a feminist though.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, but that those arguments wasn't good. Like, you know, that's an exception to the rule. Candace Owens is an exception to the rule for someone to say, well, she's a feminist because she does a podcast and she's making a lot of money and things like that. Well, no, I really wouldn't call that a feminist. She's a wife to a husband with multiple children. And what she does, she mostly stays at home where she still has the ability to take care of her children. So, yeah, I would say it's a privileged position. But think about it, man. Most people on this, what we're doing right now is a privileged position. It's a blessing to be able to know, have a microphone and do a podcast and make a living, rather than what most guys is doing picking up trash and in the sewer and, you know, fixing our roads and doing construction. So I would say that this in itself is a blessing for men and women 100%.

[Podcast Host]

And these days it's hard to have a one household income, for sure, you know?

[David Cooley]

Yeah, yeah. With inflation and everything like that, it's. It's really hard to have a one income household. So I agree.

[Podcast Host]

Are you pretty traditional when it comes to that? Like, do you want your woman to work or.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, yeah, no, my woman doesn't work. She. She stays at home with kids, take care of the kids, and I'm the one that works. So.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, same here. I just got married and that's kind of my plan, you know?

[David Cooley]

That's the plan. That's good, man. That's a blessing.

[Podcast Host]

I just think when you look at the studies of woman in the workplace and cheating and just why would you put them. That's it. Not that I'm saying I don't trust her, but just saying, like, there's all these outside influences in the work environment. Yeah.

[David Cooley]

And not only that, like, why, like, if you have the ability to provide for your woman in a way where she doesn't have to have another boss, then, like, I don't want to. If since I have money, I don't want my woman listening to another man, it's pointless. I'll have my woman work for me. So that's how I look at it. It's more convenient, it's better for the kids and things like that. You got Any kids?

[Podcast Host]

Not yet. Just got married. She wanted to wait until marriage to have some kids. So we're gonna try. Dude, that's out. All right. Yeah, I'm very excited. Tough, tough days. Tough time to raise kids. But, I mean, I'm ready for the challenge.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, it's a little tough times to try to. If you could try to avoid public school, I'm sure. Try to avoid the tablets and try to avoid Netflix because. Oh, yeah, they got a lot of hidden. They got a lot of hidden propaganda and agendas on there to indoctrinate children with the LGBTQ stuff.

[Podcast Host]

So you're not watching Beast games, bro.

[David Cooley]

Oh, Mr. Beast. You're not watching that. Yo, you know what? Shouts out to Mr. Beast because I did watch one of the Beast games before. Just a little bit of it. I watched a clip of it on Facebook and I'm like, you know what? It's actually interesting. I can see how people. It's almost like that squid game type of stuff.

[Podcast Host]

So it is interesting. He knows how to.

[David Cooley]

He knows what he's doing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, for sure, you can hate him with his takes and all, but when it comes to making videos and content.

[David Cooley]

Yeah, you can. Truthfully, you can hate him for his takes and political and maybe even lifestyle, but as far as his content with the Mr. Beast games, I mean, he's the best one doing it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, we'll give him flowers there. Yeah. But, dude, it's been great. Where can people find you and watch your debates and all that, man?

[David Cooley]

Yeah, man. So you can find me on no fugazi podcast that's going to be on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, everywhere X. That's going to be no fugazi podcast on all platforms. That's where you can find me. That's where you can watch my debates. I do open debate panels every Tuesday and Thursday at 7:00pm Eastern Standard Time. So if you want to join open panel debate night, come over to YouTube, click the first link that's pinned and my YouTube comments, and you can debate me.

[Podcast Host]

Check them out, guys. Boom. Thanks for coming on, Pepper.

[David Cooley]

Appreciate you.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, good to see you.

[David Cooley]

That was dope.

[Podcast Host]

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