David Khait: Destiny Debate Preview: Immigration, Facts & Fireworks | DSH #1452

Summary

Digital Social Hour: David Khait on Destiny Debate Preview: Immigration, Facts & Fireworks

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: David Khait
Episode: DSH #1452
Release Date: July 17, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Epstein Files and Alternative Narratives (00:00 - 00:26)

David Khait opens the discussion by addressing the persistent conspiracy theories surrounding Jeffrey Epstein. He critiques certain podcasters for propagating alternative narratives without substantial evidence. Khait suggests that once these individuals attain positions of power, they may uncover truths that contradict the stories they've long disseminated to their audiences.

David Khait (00:00): "Maybe some podcasters have been trying to paint an alternative narrative when it comes down to Epstein to us, for a very long time."

2. Student Action Summit and Street Interviews (00:26 - 02:56)

Sean Kelly brings up the upcoming Student Action Summit, where Khait plans to conduct street interviews amidst ongoing protests. Khait shares his strategy for engaging with protesters, highlighting the strength and visibility of the movement. He recounts past experiences at anti-Ice rallies and military parades, detailing confrontations that almost led to physical altercations.

David Khait (01:06): "The second that I asked them, what is going on with your chest? And that was probably the closest that I felt to getting actually punched."

3. Discussion on Big Pharma and Experimental Drugs (02:56 - 04:31)

The conversation shifts to the influence of pharmaceutical companies on medical practices, particularly concerning transgender surgeries and experimental drugs. Khait criticizes the pharmaceutical industry's role in funding these procedures and the subsequent patient dependency on their medications.

David Khait (03:10): "They end up actually working for the pharmaceutical companies. So you have big pharma pushing these surgeries and then they're also becoming lifelong patients after the surgery."

4. Biden Administration and Moderna Vaccine Authorization (04:31 - 04:59)

Khait comments on the Biden administration's recent authorization of Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine for children as young as six months. He ties this decision to the influence of Bobby Kennedy Jr., head of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), suggesting it reflects the administration's agenda.

David Khait (04:11): "FDA was fully authorized Moderna. Full authority to give shots to individuals six months and above... this is coming from Bobby Kennedy."

5. Handling of Epstein Case by Trump Administration (06:13 - 08:35)

Khait critiques former President Trump's handling of the Epstein case. He argues that the administration failed to provide transparency and accountability, especially regarding the trafficking charges without disclosing the identities of the clients involved. Khait expresses frustration over the lack of comprehensive information and the administration's silence on critical aspects of the case.

David Khait (06:25): "Nobody. It's impossible. It's just another thing."

6. EPA Funds and Influence of Stacey Abrams (12:09 - 13:23)

After a brief interlude skipping advertisements, Khait discusses the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) allocation of $2 billion to an organization previously generating only $200 in revenue. He alleges that Stacey Abrams's organization misused these funds to influence voter behavior by providing gas stoves to low-income areas, effectively buying votes for upcoming elections.

David Khait (13:23): "How do you get a $2 billion grant from the administration when the year before that all you had is a $200 revenue in this organization?"

7. Soros and Dark Money Influence (13:23 - 16:00)

Khait delves into the influence of George Soros and his son Alex Soros in American politics. He critiques their funding of progressive groups aimed at destabilizing the United States. Khait also highlights Alex Soros's marriage to Huma Abedin, drawing connections to Islamic fundamentalism through Abedin's family's publication ties.

David Khait (14:07): "Alex Soros... Huma Abedin... connections to the Muslim Brotherhood."

8. Foreign Influence: China and KGB Tactics (16:00 - 19:10)

The discussion shifts to foreign adversaries, particularly China, and their use of ideological subversion akin to historical KGB tactics. Khait emphasizes the effectiveness of propaganda warfare in demoralizing societies without engaging in direct military conflict. He warns of China's persistent efforts to infiltrate and destabilize American institutions through financial and ideological means.

David Khait (18:08): "It's the most beautiful thing that China has been able to accomplish... ideological subversion."

9. Media as a Weapon and the Role of Alternative Media (19:10 - 22:27)

Khait criticizes the mainstream media's role in shaping public perception and fostering cynicism. He argues that legacy media's misinformation on critical issues like COVID-19 and foreign wars has created a void filled by alternative media enthusiasts, who often propagate narratives that confirm their audience's biases rather than presenting objective facts.

David Khait (21:42): "It's like, look, let's look at the fact checkers."

10. Specific Figures and Organizations Discussed (22:27 - 25:36)

Khait evaluates various influencers and organizations, including Myron Gaines, Nick Fuentes, and AIPAC. He acknowledges the debating skills of some figures like Gaines and Fuentes but criticizes their commitment to objective facts, suggesting they prioritize their narratives over truth. Regarding AIPAC, Khait expresses distrust in lobbying groups, advocating for their banning due to the undue influence of dark money on American politics.

David Khait (25:36): "Let me be honest though, I hate all lobby groups. I think AIPAC should be banned."

11. Lobbying and Corporate Influence in US Politics (25:36 - 27:51)

Building on his critique of AIPAC, Khait discusses the broader issue of corporate influence, particularly following the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision. He argues that allowing corporations to funnel money into politics undermines democratic integrity, equating the ruling to the historical Dred Scott decision in terms of its negative impact on society.

David Khait (26:07): "It's one of the worst rulings in Supreme Court history... Citizens United vs United States is a terrible ruling precedent."

12. Conclusion and Upcoming Destiny Debate (27:51 - 28:37)

Sean Kelly wraps up the episode by teasing an upcoming debate between David Khait and Destiny. Khait expresses enthusiasm about the opportunity to debate, particularly on topics like immigration, maintaining his stance and challenging opposing viewpoints.

David Khait (28:18): "I'm excited for it."

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Key Takeaways:

• Conspiracy Theories and Power: David Khait emphasizes the importance of evidence-based narratives over long-standing conspiracy theories, especially as individuals gain influence and access to information.

• Pharmaceutical Influence: Criticism is directed towards big pharma's role in promoting and funding surgeries and experimental drugs, leading to patient dependency.

• Political Funding and Lobbying: Khait highlights the problematic nature of dark money and corporate influence in American politics, advocating for stricter regulations and transparency.

• Foreign Adversaries and Ideological Warfare: The discussion underscores the threat posed by foreign entities like China through non-kinetic means of societal subversion.

• Media's Role in Shaping Perception: Both legacy and alternative media are scrutinized for their roles in perpetuating misinformation and shaping public opinion to fit specific narratives.

• Upcoming Debate with Destiny: The episode sets the stage for an insightful debate on pressing issues such as immigration, where Khait aims to defend his policies and challenge opposing views.

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Notable Quotes:

• On Lobbying:

  David Khait (25:36): "Let me be honest though, I hate all lobby groups. I think AIPAC should be banned."

• On Corporate Influence:

  David Khait (26:07): "It's one of the worst rulings in Supreme Court history... Citizens United vs United States is a terrible ruling precedent."

• On Media and Fact-Checking:

  David Khait (21:42): "It's like, look, let's look at the fact checkers."

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This episode of Digital Social Hour provides a deep dive into the intricate web of political influence, media manipulation, and foreign adversarial tactics shaping contemporary American society. David Khait offers a critical perspective on the interplay between power, money, and information, setting the stage for a compelling debate with Destiny on pivotal national issues.

Transcript

[David]

As some sort of evidence against them and whatnot. So maybe some podcasters have been trying to paint an alternative narrative when it comes down to Epstein to us, for a very long time. And once they actually got to the position of power where they can unravel this stuff, maybe they learned otherwise that it's not actually what they have been propagating to their base for a while.

[Sean]

All right, guys, got David. He's not sick this time.

[David]

Not sick. We made it happen.

[Sean]

We are at Student Action Summit, and you're gonna do some street interviews here. What's your plan?

[David]

Absolutely. Anytime I go to any of these events, you got to hit up the streets, because I saw that they may have some protesters out here. I heard they're.

[Sean]

They're already going on.

[David]

They're already going on.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

I'll see you later. Gotta get to this.

[Sean]

Anytime Charlie Kirk has an event, there's gonna be a protest.

[David]

Absolutely. And that's. It just shows you how powerful this movement really is. Because if you can draw out the of these TDS people, just deranged people, you're doing something right.

[Sean]

Where's been the craziest street interview? Where's that taking place?

[David]

You know, there's. There's been several crazy ones, but I've been going undercover to a lot of the protests, and because I exposed them later on on Twitter and these posts go viral all the time, I decided, let me not go undercover. And about a month ago, I went to one of these usual anti ice rallies that ended up being a march. And immediately when I got there, the person identified me and they came straight to me and they said, david, I got you now. You can't do this anymore. And I was like, what's going on? And he's like, I know who you are. You're David. And I was like, how do you know my name? He's like, everybody knows you. And I'm like, oh, that's a great compliment. Appreciated that. But he. He left immediately and then came right back and said, listen, man, if. If I'm around you, you can't actually do any of the stuff that you usually do. And I said, well, this is perfect. Maybe you can tell me about your organization a little bit. And that's when he got a little bit heated. It felt like he was going to punch me in the face. And I'm always ready for the punch, because I know if I get punched at 2pm that day, at 9pm, I'm on Fox News talking about it, right? So that's been crazy. But on craziest one was the military parade. So far I've only heard of of women getting their breasts cut off and like walking in the streets to show that I always forget what the surgery is called. But I saw this when I was at the military parade in D.C. and I walked up to the person just to have a normal conversation with them. And this person just fueled up, drugged up, out of all these experimental drugs, rage baited. The second that I asked them, what is going on with your chest? And that was probably the closest that I felt to getting actually punched. And I mind you guys that these are teens. This person told me he's a teen. And that's when it clicked for me. And that's probably what pissed him off the most. As I said, I thought this was all conspiracy theories that minors getting such surgery. So some close incidents. Sean.

[Sean]

I hooked up with this girl in college and she turned into a guy. I just found out like a year ago.

[David]

Wow.

[Sean]

Changed her whole gender. Cut off the breasts, change her name.

[David]

That's.

[Sean]

That's the world we live in.

[David]

It's disgusting. And, and if people actually follow the money, I'm a big person that likes to follow the money. They'll understand that these experimental drugs, not only are the pharmaceutical companies that then give you the treatment for your post surgery are funding these experimental drugs, but they also hire trials to conduct studies on their experimental drugs.

[Sean]

Right.

[David]

And the people that conduct the studies on their experimental drugs, they end up actually working for the pharmaceutical companies. So you have big pharma pushing these surgeries and then they're also becoming lifelong patients after the surgery. And what kind of drugs do they take? They take the big pharma's drugs right there.

[Sean]

Wow. It's all money at the end of that.

[David]

All money. And that's why I'm glad we have somebody like Bobby Kennedy Jr. As the head of HHS because maybe we can finally get to the crackdown of it. We're one of two countries in the whole world that actually allows pharmaceutical companies to advertise on TV to. To buy our politicians. That's pretty bad.

[Sean]

Did you see they passed a new COVID vaccine yesterday?

[David]

I did.

[Sean]

That was weird.

[David]

They fully greenlit Moderna. Moderna? Yep. FDA was fda, fully authorized Moderna. Full authority to give shots to individuals six months and above. So babies. Which is interesting because essentially FDA falls under hhs. So this means that this is coming from Bobby Kennedy.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

Yeah. That. And, and here's the thing that we, we've kind of seen this with the Epstein Files lately and whatnot. We're seeing a lot of 1-80s in this administration. I still like the administration, but what I see on Twitter all the time, people talking about it, is that they, they're. They are not satisfied with this. This is not what they voted for. Look at this. Moderna fully authorized to provide COVID vaccine shots to six months and above Epstein files. We don't know the case.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Sean]

Knock on wood.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Sean]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Sean]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[David]

Feel the drop and go code yourself. Shut down. Ukraine receiving aid again. What is going on here? It's like a full 180 in just a week here.

[Sean]

Yeah. I will say I've lost a little.

[David]

Faith, you know, but what are you going to do? I go vote for Kamala Harris because that's the likely candidate next.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pick your poison.

[David]

Right, Right, exactly.

[Sean]

That's politics. Like, no one's going to be perfect.

[David]

Nobody.

[Sean]

It's impossible.

[David]

So I'll look for the policy. At the end of the day, Trump lays out good policy. Like there's some stuff in this big, beautiful bill that they passed that I don't think is beautiful at all. And I don't think there's anything beautiful about a big bill in the first place. As a conservative, we're supposed to be for single bills being put together, not hundreds of bills being shoved in, together into one. So we're a little upset about it, to be honest. And I. And I Can hear that from the base when I go and communicate with them on the streets.

[Sean]

Yeah. Do you think he handled the Epstein situation really badly?

[David]

Absolutely. Because even people that haven't, like myself, I'm not so big on the Epstein case. I've kept up with it, but I'm not sitting there every day or every week like some people saying, I can't wait for the Epstein stuff to come out so we can hold these predators accountable. Finally. I'm not one of those people, but I think that when you have an individual in jail, Gasoline Maxwell, who is charged with trafficking minors, and then you also have Epstein before he committed suicide or whatever the case may be, he also was charged with trafficking minors. Who are they trafficking them to? And Pam Bondi told us, I understand that Epstein didn't keep a list himself. That would be ridiculous. That's dumb. But the government obviously compiled a list of the clients of the people that they would traffic these individuals to. So you telling me for the first time ever in history, in American history, we have a trafficking charge without the actual clients? That is absolutely ridiculous. And that conference at the news press where Trump said, listen, no more. That is a twofold thing. That is the President saying, no more. You will not ask me about this anymore whatsoever to the media. But he's also telling the base, as the leader of the base, this is it. That's it. And that's. I mean, you take it how you want to.

[Sean]

It doesn't look like we'll ever get answers at this point.

[David]

No. And I. And I think that's what the majority of people truly have a problem with, is that if you're going to claim you're the most transparent administration ever, why, when it comes down to things that are going to pretty much be critical of your administration, why do you tend to not be transparent about those?

[Sean]

There's hilarious compilation videos of, like, Cash and Dan Bongino, how they talked about it two years ago and how they're talking about it now. Have you seen those?

[David]

I have. I will give them this. That it's different to say stuff on a podcast like this and then to say it when you have authority or position. The best comparison to this is that Rudy Giuliani made a lot of claims about the 2020 election, but when he faced a judge and he had the opportunity to actually adjudicate his claims, he went back on his claims. He actually said that all that he said on these podcasts and whatnot is part of his freedom of speech. And that shouldn't be, you know, taken as some sort of evidence against him and whatnot. So maybe some podcasters have been trying to paint an alternative narrative when it comes down to Epstein to us for a very long time. And once they actually got to the position of power where they can unravel this stuff, maybe they learned otherwise that it's not actually what they have been propagating to their base for a while. But we can also look at another theory that the Democrats who refuse to hand over control for about 45 days, the transition process after President Trump won immediately should be the transition process. They delayed that process for 45 days. Why? Well, maybe that's what they spent all this time at the DOJ burning all these files usaid removing all the transactions away of showing money flowing to like Colombia for transgender surgeries and stuff The.

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[Sean]

Go anywhere without it like that.

[David]

So there's many, many possibilities here. Honestly.

[Sean]

Actually I know that 45 days.

[David]

45 days. They delayed the administration for about 45 days. 50 or so days.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

Where they refused to, to have a transition process.

[Sean]

That's super sketchy.

[David]

It is.

[Sean]

Who knows what they were doing during.

[David]

That time period and who knows what they've been doing at time. Who knows what honestly they've been like installing in different place. A great example of this, the EPA gave an organization $2 billion the year before that this organization had $200 revenue. What did they give them this money for? Well, the head of that organization was Stacey Abrams from my home state. She went around and was selling gas stoves to low income areas using the administration's money. They try to hide this. What they did is that they took that money from the epa, the Environmental Protection Agency and, and parked it in Citibank so Stacey Abrams can still tap into those funds. And what are you doing going around South Georgia in low income areas providing them whatever it is. You're buying voters, you're buying your next election, whether it's your gubernatorial race, whether it's your Senate race, whatever the case may be. But that's what they were doing for those 45 days where they didn't really communicate with the incoming presidents.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

That is nuts.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I'm sure you've tracked some interesting money flow within politics.

[David]

The craziest one is the Stacy Abrams. How do you get $2 billion grant from the, from the administration when the year before that all you had is a $200 revenue in this organization. That is crazy, right?

[Sean]

Have you tracked Soros's donations?

[David]

Absolutely. Yeah. And the main thing about Soros, people always bring up George Soros. George Soros is like 90 plus years old. He gave all control of Open Society foundation and pretty much all of his assets to his son Alex Soros. Alex Soros just married a couple weeks ago, Huma Abedin. So I want you to imagine what's going on. You have a bunch of leftists in the streets protesting in whatever social justice warrior name you can imagine, immigration, anti Israel stuff, Trump derangement syndrome. How do you fund all of these vast radical groups that pretty much have conflating ideologies? Well, you get some people like Alex Soros who have a very progressive philosophy and want to destabilize America as much as possible. And the best way to create this big elite class and centralize that power with them is by doing these protests. Well now he's also married to Huma Abedin. Huma Abedin, it's a very interesting case. Not only she former top aide to Hillary Clinton, but she's also former wife to Anthony Weiner. Anthony Weiner is a whole other interesting case. But if we look at her background, her family, her father owned the publication for Muslim minority affairs which had direct connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood is pretty much designated as a terrorist organization by.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[David]

Almost every country in the world. Now this publication had one goal and it is to make sure that western civilizations would accept Sharia law. While her father died, he passed the publication over to the mom or the mom took over and who became senior editor of the publication. Huma Abedin before she started her career with Hillary Clinton. So you have ties to Islamic fundamentalism, getting together with ultra progressive Marxists in the United States with a lot of money coming in from Soros entities and perhaps some Qatari money or whatever the case may be. So we see that all the time and the records are in front of us. Yet what do we do about it? We don't do a single thing about it. We have an administration that we have Congress, we have a president, we have control of Congress and we're not doing anything about that.

[Sean]

What's the biggest threat to America right now? You think it's donors like that? You think it's Russia, you think it's China? Where do you think the biggest threat lies?

[David]

That's a good question, honestly. Obviously foreign adversaries are always going to be very dangerous to us and you pick the country. I know a lot of people right now are talking about Israel. The day that Israel starts to do something like the Chinese or the what Iran is doing, I'll say to that is a foreign adversary to us. The biggest threat to America right now are actually the, in the foreign influence campaigns behind all of the protests. There's A guy named Nival Roy Singham. He sold his company in America for $800 million. And where did he decide to retire? In China. Sean, do you know what happens to millionaires when they go to China?

[Sean]

They disappear.

[David]

Well, they don't Jack Ma. All, exactly right. All of that becomes state owned. Right. There's no way that the commun. The Chinese Communist Party is going to allow millionaires to thrive without being controlled by the party. But he doesn't care about that. The reason he moved to China in the first place, because he is himself. He's a self proclaimed socialist and Marxist and he believes that the best use of his funds is to drive the CCP's agenda in the United States by funding all of these radical groups. The Party for Socialism and Liberation funded by him. Code Pink. Those annoying women that stand up in Congress and throw fits all the time confronted Madea, right? I did confront Madea.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And I love how at first she said she doesn't take money from anybody with foreign influence. And then it became, yeah, so what? We only take 25%. And then you start to also find out that the co founder of her organization, Code Pink, is married to Nevae Roy Singh. And not only that, but she also is a board director on the nonprofit, the shell nonprofit that funnels money into all of these organizations. Hundreds of millions of dollars into various organizations through this non. Through the shell nonprofit to do one thing and it's to bring destabilization to America. That is the biggest threat. Because you destabilize it, you normalize it, and then you have a bunch of these sheeps running around parroting government talking points and whatnot. Yeah.

[Sean]

It's a different type of warfare these days. Right. It's not like guns and boots on the, on the ground.

[David]

Yeah. It's the most beautiful thing that China has been able to accomplish. And this was a tactic that the KGB actually trained. Yuri Besmanov sat down, he's a former KGB officer that fled and exposed all the KGB tactics for us. The main thing that the, the KGB spent all their money on more than 90% of their time on was ideological subversion. To ideologically subvert an entire society, to completely demoralize them without shooting a single bullet, is the most successful influence campaign that any country can do. And if that means that you can do this without a military action, without kinetic warfare, you can just do this through this propaganda warfare, way cheaper too. Way cheaper. Right. And no need to ruin relationships. Look at the influence China has on America. But because we depend on China and vice versa. They depend on us. They're never going to go into kinetic warfare, but sure enough, they're going to continue to try and infiltrate each other and do all this various stuff.

[Sean]

Yeah, I look at the media as like a weapon, honestly.

[David]

It sure is.

[Sean]

You can program so many people with it.

[David]

Well, look at how they programmed all these Democrat voters into belief in that. Biden was a legitimate precedent. Sure. Okay. I'm fine enough with saying that he won the election, but if you're going to sit here and tell me that he was the one that was signing all the executive orders, that he was actually doing what President Trump is doing on a daily basis right now, that's ridiculous. But you had more than half the country actually believe that that was the case. Why? Because the media did such a good job propagating that on a daily basis to us. And they're the one that is calling us crazy.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's wild. Well, alternative media is here now, but even that can be weaponized.

[David]

It sure is. You know, we're seeing that happen right now.

[Sean]

You're seeing it, yeah. You're seeing Russia funding some podcasts. Soros has funded some podcasts. So that's going to be the next.

[David]

Frontier, I think, when you, when you have any funding coming from any foreign country. I was born in Israel, so I have a bias when it comes down to Israel. But I still don't want to see any of our politicians taking any money from any Israeli lobby, aipac, whatever the case may be. Why? Because that creates room for. For. For interest that is not of yours or if your constituent interest to be propagated. It's a, it's actually a really big problem that we have in America.

[Sean]

I got a list of names. Just say what comes to mind when I say these names. Myron Gaines.

[David]

Authentic, but rage baiting. Right. So at least I'll give that to him. And here's the thing, is that I actually, I was one of those dudes that kind of was attracted to the audience that Myron Gaines was trying to cultivate for himself. But he diagnoses the problem really well, like Andrew Tate. But the solution that he provides is not the best solution. The solution for us, especially for young men, we're trying to, to. To increase the amount of nuclear families that there are in America. I mean, it's just not the best solution, really.

[Sean]

I can see that. Yeah. Nick Fuentes.

[David]

Nick Fuentes. I'll give it to him. Really good debater, really knows his stuff, is able to stand on his Position Really? Well, I would love to debate him again, being from Israel and rejecting a lot of the neocon Israeli stuff that happens on my side of the aisle. So I think it would be an interesting debate. The only problem that I have with him is that it always feels like he has a certain narrative that he needs to carry on so he will forfeit some objective facts in order for that narrative to actually hold true. That's a problem that I have with anybody, really.

[Sean]

Yeah, I could see that. Jake Shields.

[David]

Just retarded. I mean, I'll gladly bring that thing back. Right? So my thing is this. With any conspiracy theory, and I'm a conspiracy theorist, right, like. Or whatever, but with anything that is that ridiculous about whatever shit that he talks about that is so crazy, all it takes is a simple fact check and that and to go back. That's the problem that the legacy media has created, because the legacy media has lied to us about everything. Covid, Russia, hoax, foreign, infinite wars and whatnot. It created so much cynicism, it created so much void to be filled that is being filled by these alternative media individuals. And they can tell you whatever, as long as it's filling the narrative that you want to hear.

[Sean]

Right.

[David]

That's a big problem I have with Jake Cheel specifically.

[Sean]

Did you see the damn Zaring debate on his podcast with the Israel guy?

[David]

I didn't. You don't know? Actually, I did.

[Sean]

They had a live fact checker on that debate.

[David]

Oh, really?

[Sean]

And then at the end of the video, it says how many facts each side told and how many lies.

[David]

Oh, wow, I need to go check that out.

[Sean]

Check that one out. But apparently Dan was there and had no lies.

[David]

30 facts. And that's. That's the problem I have. It's like, look, let's look at the fact checkers. Right, let's. Who was fact checking this?

[Sean]

Jake's producer.

[David]

Oh, there you go. Right.

[Sean]

And the other guy had like 30 lies and 10 facts.

[David]

Well, there you go. Right. So here's the thing, is that, like, if you're going to have Dan Bilzer and tell you that 271,000 died because there's no way that 6 million of them could have died in the Holocaust, that alone is enough for me to say that you are denying objective facts in order to maintain your narrative of whatever that narrative may be. And I'm sure Dan Bilzerian said that in the podcast, and I'm sure that Jake Shields, a producer, said fact check. That is true.

[Sean]

The pizza oven analogy.

[David]

The pizza oven analogy. Right. Or the cookies or whatever the case.

[Sean]

Who started that one? I don't even know, but I don't know.

[David]

But the problem is is that there's all these beautiful narratives circulating about Israel and they would be so beautiful if they were actually true, but they're not. They constant try to uphold a certain narrative that they're propagating but that comes at the cost of forfeiting on objective facts. Yeah, if that is fine, if you are fine with just essentially lying to your base non stop and forfeiting on objective evidence that is quite literally there for everyone to see.

[Sean]

Other than the 271, what are some other big myths you see on social media about Israel?

[David]

Well, I. Here's the thing is anytime I. Well, aipac, let's talk about aipac. People always say that that is an Israeli lobby, that is the Israeli government influencing American politicians. And if politicians in America ever want to defund Israel, they'll never be able to do that because either they'll lose their race because of aipac or you know, AIPAC has so much control, blackmail, whatever the case may be, over these politicians that they'll end up doing whatever Israel wants to do for them. My question is always, where's the evidence? Where's the receipts? If people are making such claims that money's funneling from Israel to AIPAC and then AIPAC's taking that money to go hunt after politicians, show us the receipts, we can do that with any organizations. We can see those receipts. The reality that Nick Fuentes, Myron Gaines won't tell you about AIPAC is that it's American born. Anybody as long as they're American born. So you have Christians, Muslims, non religious people, Democrats, Republicans, donating to aipac. Why? Because they truly see Israel is one of their best allies, friends, whatever the case may be in the Middle East. So they give money to this organization and give that money to, to politicians that will end up, you know, saying Israel is our ally and whatnot. But if there was any money, a single dollar coming in from an Israeli government official, from, from an Israeli citizen, whatever the case may be, AIPAC would have to register as Fara. They don't tell you that, right? Why? Because it sounds much better to say AIPAC is influencing all of our politicians on behalf of.

[Sean]

There is such a negative meaning with AIPAC these days. Like when you see it, you just assume the worst.

[David]

Let me be honest though, I hate all lobby groups. I think APAC should be banned.

[Sean]

Really?

[David]

Yeah, absolutely. Any lobby group in America should be banned. There's no reason why dark money should be influencing our campaigns. And screw my scotus. I say my SCOTUS because it was Trump installed judges that ruled that corporations have the rights like citizens. So that means corporations can funnel money into politicians.

[Sean]

Right?

[David]

Oh my God. Now, now, now think about how much money can be coming into these organizations from various. Various bad places. So lobby groups are bad, but as long as lobby groups are allowed. AIPAC is a lobby group. It's not a. It's not a. It shouldn't be registered as far out, obviously, because nobody donated to it. That is foreign.

[Sean]

Yeah. Do you think that should be changed that large corporations should not be allowed to fund?

[David]

Absolutely. It's one of the worst rulings in Supreme Court history as. As bad as the Dred Scott ruling. Dred Scott ruling was that said that freed slaves don't have free all rights. They're not a full human. They're 3/5 of a human. No, that was a really bad Supreme Court landmark ruling. This Citizens United vs United States is a terrible ruling precedent sent by the Supreme Court where they essentially again provided civil liberties to corporations. That means BlackRock is a person. So BlackRock can donate money to politicians.

[Sean]

And they do it.

[David]

And they do.

[Sean]

They just funnel it through other entities, I'd imagine. So they're not on the.

[David]

Through the record the same way that Neva Roy Singham or George Soros do it. It always comes through third parties.

[Sean]

Bill Gates too.

[David]

Yeah. So that money will go to a nonprofit and then they will funnel that non. That nonprofit already acts as its own entity that will funnel that money to another fund and maybe funnel it again to another fund and that those funds.

[Sean]

Get used to pay influencers. Oprah got paid millions.

[David]

Yes, absolutely right. We also know that it's not just that, but taxpayer money is also used for that. USAID was cutting some nice checks and investing on behalf of the United States to do what? The bidding of the Democrat Party. That's. Yeah, that's a big problem that we have in the United States.

[Sean]

There was just a breaking update with the Tate case. They found out the girl got paid 100k from one of these organizations.

[David]

I did see that yesterday. Yeah. That's another great example of how money that is being. Again, this isn't a rich guy's money. This is your money. My money, Taxpayers money that is appropriated to an organization, an agency, and then it's funneled it to these people.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

Crazy.

[Sean]

It's nice, dude. Well, dude, I can't wait for your debate with Destiny tomorrow.

[David]

I'm excited for it.

[Sean]

What do you, what do you plan on attacking him with?

[David]

Well, I'm always, it's always interesting to see Democrats somehow say that Trump's accomplishments in his first 30 days with immigration are bad. So the first things first. I might have to talk to him about immigration because I want to see him. Hold that line.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah. Thanks for coming on, brother.

[David]

Thanks, Sean. Appreciate it.

[Sean]

See you guys.