DeVory Darkins: TikTok Is Changing How a Generation Thinks | DSH #1802

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Episode: DeVory Darkins: TikTok Is Changing How a Generation Thinks | DSH #1802
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: DeVory Darkins
Release Date: February 2, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly sits down with DeVory Darkins—prominent political commentator and digital creator—to explore the profound impact of social media (especially TikTok) on generational thinking, U.S. politics, and modern societal challenges. The two discuss DeVory's journey from reluctant commentator to leading voice, tackle issues ranging from the military-industrial complex to Gen Z economics, and analyze the subtle yet significant threats facing America today—both foreign and domestic.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. DeVory’s Background and Origin Story

• Exposure Beyond the Bubble: DeVory credits his formative years to military service, which forced him outside his comfort zone and into diverse environments.
  • “Just to put yourself in an environment that is not in your control and is uncomfortable on purpose. Having that at the age of 18 does wonders to you.” (00:00)
• Raised with conservative values via his great aunt, his upbringing was defined by self-reliance—shaped by being adopted, growing up with parents who struggled with addiction, and joining the military at 17.

2. Entry into Political Commentary

• Catalyst Event: The July 13, 2024, Butler, Pennsylvania, rally and assassination attempt deeply motivated DeVory to enter politics, turning a private passion into a public mission.
  • “I saw the assassination attempt, and I was like, you know, I really felt compelled at that point to start, and I haven't stopped since.” (00:59)
• His original goal: foster critical thinking among Americans—not push a partisan agenda.

3. On Politics: Trust, Local Involvement, and Systemic Issues

• Systemic Distrust: DeVory and Sean agree: “don’t trust any politician.” (01:32)
• Local Change vs. National Theatre:
  • Emphasizes focusing on local politics, where real change is possible: “At the local level, our power is absolute.” (01:43)
• Money in Politics: They cite Supreme Court decisions like Citizens United as exacerbating the disconnect at the national level.

4. Military Experience and Political Cynicism

• Military Value vs. Waste: Serving in the military offers invaluable growth but exposes systemic waste and fraud—e.g., unused vehicles destroyed instead of repatriated from Afghanistan.
  • “Brand new military vehicles... sitting there unused. They ended up having to destroy them.” (05:54)
• Cynicism about War: Both agree U.S. military interventions have consistently poor long-term outcomes; DeVory laments perpetual war, both physical and informational.

5. Information Warfare and TikTok’s Cultural Impact

• China’s Nontraditional Leverage: DeVory warns China's influence is not about tanks and bombs, but supply chains and controlling narratives through platforms like TikTok:
  • “Think about what they did with the TikTok algorithm. They changed a generation and, and the way they think and how they consume information.” (09:46)
• Both see the information war as permanent, with new generations especially vulnerable.

6. Domestic Threats: Money Schemes, DEI, and Manipulation

• DEI and BLM Criticism: DeVory asserts that initiatives like DEI and BLM became money-making schemes, failing to help black communities and instead subjecting them to further stereotyping.
  • “It made our image even worse. If you see someone in a leadership position who happens to be black, what is the first thought? DEI.” (12:54)
• Manipulating Stats and Laws: Politicians manipulate data and quietly alter laws (e.g., Title IX), changing the landscape without honest debate.

7. Gun Violence, Security, and Mental Health

• DeVory describes school shootings as a multi-factorial issue, emphasizing campus security and mental health far more than gun control.
  • “The gun issue is not it, that's not one of, of the pieces. Even if I gave them that just to throw them a bone, that's not it.” (16:51)
• Laments lax security at universities and how internet radicalization accelerates instability.

8. Immigration, Law Enforcement, and Political Extremes

• Gives high marks to Trump’s approach on strict enforcement, framing both Trump’s and Biden’s policies as “radical” but necessary responses to one another.
  • “What Joe Biden did was radical. He did not enforce the law and he prevented people from enforcing a law. So by the laws of the universe... what is the response? A radical one.” (21:08)
• Discusses viral stories (e.g., Ilhan Omar’s son and ICE) with skepticism, urging critical thinking.

9. AOC, Political Realignment, and the Future

• Predicts rising influence for AOC, reflecting disenchantment with mainstream capitalism and political elites—especially among Gen Z:
  • “If capitalism doesn't work for Gen Z What do you expect them to do?... Socialism will start becoming attractive.” (24:01)

10. Advice to Young Listeners: Economic Opportunity and Adaptability

• DeVory encourages Gen Z to focus on skill-building and entrepreneurial thinking, both physical and digital:
  • “The number one lesson that I think Gen Z has to learn is understanding this new economy and how simple it is for them to rise above inflation.” (24:53)
  • Highlights opportunities in unconventional jobs (like jet detailing) and content creation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• DeVory on Military Value:
  "What you get from serving is something nobody can give you. You're only going to get it by going there." (03:57)
• On Systemic Waste:
  “They ended up having to destroy [the vehicles]. And when we left Afghanistan... they said it was actually cheaper to keep it here and destroy it than it is to ship it back.” (05:54)
• On Information War and TikTok:
  “They changed a generation, and the way they think and how they consume information.” (09:46)
• On Domestic Threats:
  “External threat, China; internal threat: money in politics.” (11:55)
• On DEI/BLM:
  “Who benefited from DEI? In fact, no, we did not benefit. In fact, it made our image even worse.” (12:54)
• On Political Manipulation:
  “What Democrats will do... We'll just go in and change the rules to the game.” (15:08)
• On Gen Z’s Economic Reality:
  “Gen Z is in a position where it’s a paradox. Never been a time in history where it’s easy to make a lot of money quick… but also so much noise out there. Where do I go?” (26:19)

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Section Timestamps

| Segment | Start Time | |----------------------------------------|-------------| | DeVory’s upbringing & military | 00:00 | | Politics as mission, not numbers | 00:43 | | Local activism vs. national politics | 01:43 | | Military service pros/cons | 03:54 | | Military-industrial complex critique | 05:54 | | Afghanistan & U.S. agenda skepticism | 06:39 | | Perpetual “information war” | 09:02 | | China, TikTok, and generational shifts | 09:19 | | Internal threats: money in activism | 12:03 | | Manipulated statistics, Title IX | 15:08 | | Gun violence: Security & mental health | 16:44 | | Immigration enforcement debates | 19:58 | | AOC, socialism, and Gen Z | 23:21 | | Gen Z advice: skill & entrepreneurship | 24:53 |

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Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is direct, skeptical, and mission-driven—with DeVory’s storytelling emphasizing critical thinking, resilience, and getting beyond easy narratives. Sean plays the role of a thoughtful, engaged peer, guiding the conversation into controversial waters without sensational spin. The episode challenges conventional political discourse, shines a light on overlooked realities, and gives pragmatic advice for the next generation.

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Where to find DeVory:
“The DeVory Darkin Show”—mainly on Rumble with clips on YouTube, X, and Instagram. (26:48)

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Best for listeners who want:

• Unfiltered takes on modern politics and generational change
• Real discussion about the military, information warfare, and economic adaptability
• A fresh perspective on media narratives and social activism

Transcript

[Devory]

Just to put yourself in an environment that is not in your control and is uncomfortable on purpose. Having that at the age of 18 does wonders to you. And being able to leave your bubble, your small town that you grew up in, is huge. And then meet someone who's from, like, Tonga or Hawaii and Boston, Jersey, you know, it's huge. Foreign.

[Sean]

Guys, Last but not least, today we got Devory, someone I've been trying to get on for years now. He's always in the top hundred charts on YouTube. Had a lot of success. Thanks for coming on, man.

[Devory]

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having me. Very grateful to be here.

[Sean]

Yeah, I'm sure you had quite the year, man.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

A lot of stuff to cover.

[Devory]

Yeah, absolutely. It's been. You know, when we first started, it wasn't even about any numbers or anything. It was just about just getting out there and spreading the truth. So. So it really has kind of morphed to something serious. So I'm very grateful.

[Sean]

Was it always political focused at first or.

[Devory]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of people ask me how I got started, and essentially it was my wife always asking me, hey, why don't you do politics? You know, because we're always listening to it. We were debating over it, but my reaction every time was, well, no, I don't want to deal with that. It's a little toxic, you know, it's negative. I'm good. I'm good. And one day I was sitting down, watching the rally, July 13, 2024, Butler, Pennsylvania, and I saw the assassination attempt, and I was like, you know, I really felt compelled at that point to start, and I haven't stopped since.

[Sean]

I love it, man. You and I actually share the same belief. Like, you don't trust any politician, right? Exactly the same way. And it's ironic being at mfest saying this, but I feel like these days you have to come in with that mindset.

[Devory]

Of course. Yeah. I think what. What's more importantly is helping the American people critically think for themselves, because it helps them vote in their local elections smarter. So nationally, we may not be able to get exactly the person we want in office, because clearly, money is what runs politics. Thank you to the Supreme Court, Citizens United, of course. But at the local level, our power is absolute. We could do a lot of good at the school board meetings, city council, things that actually affect me and you every day, just by the cities that. That we live in.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's a good point, man. A lot of people want to get involved at a federal level, but you could have much more impact locally.

[Devory]

Oh, absolutely, yeah.

[Sean]

If you could form a group of like 100 people that share the same beliefs that could impact the city. Right. Depending on the population, but.

[Devory]

Exactly, exactly.

[Sean]

That's a good message.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Have you always been leaning towards the conservative side of things or did you grow up kind of liberal?

[Devory]

No, I was already a conservative. My mother, I think that's the way she parent me. She never made anything about race. She never took any excuses. Now I was adopted and to give some context here, it was my great aunt who adopted me. So she was my grandmother's generation and that particular generation was. They don't explain anything. It's very hard parenting. So it was definitely conservative and in, in the household.

[Sean]

Yeah. I feel like I grew. I grew up the opposite liberal, but I started waking up over time. I grew up in Jersey, so.

[Devory]

Okay.

[Sean]

Just brought it to my environment. Everyone was liberal there, man. Everyone. Yeah, Yeah. I didn't meet one conservative growing up.

[Devory]

Yeah. And I think for me it was just because of like I was adopted. My parents were drug addicts. You know, I had to. I joined the military when I was 17. I'd been on my own since I was 17. So I have a different life experience is why I support conservative values just inherently, you know. And I'm not saying people have to go through all that to have those values, but for me it just kind of was just the way my life turned out.

[Sean]

Yeah. So you were in the military now knowing everything you know about the military industrial complex, all the wars, why they're started.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

How do you feel about it now?

[Devory]

It's a give and a take. It's a double edged sword. Meaning what you get from serving is something nobody can give you. You're only going to get it by going there. The relationships, the level of resistance that you face, that helps you develop a stronger mindset. I think everybody should actually serve in the military for two years. That's it. I think that's more than enough. Just to put yourself in an environment that is not in your control and is uncomfortable on purpose. Having that at the age of 18 does wonders to you. And being able to leave your bubble, your small town that you grew up in is huge. And then meet someone who's from like Tonga or Hawaii and Boston, Jersey, you know, it's huge. So that right there is very valuable. Now the flip side to it, of course, is that, you know, clearly the Department of Defense who just had their budget passed with no hesitation. Right. No debate, no public announcement, they passed it like that any other piece of legislation. And all you hear it is in the mainstream media, all you hear them fighting over, they never fight over the budget for the Department of Defense. Why is that? Right. It's like what you were saying is a lot of these people hold either relationships, power or some level of influence within these military contractors. We know how much, how many people got rich off of nine, 11, essentially. Right. Going into Afghanistan, Iraq. It's insane. I give your viewers a great example. I, when I was in the military, I was a logistics guy. I was the supply guy. So the supply guy, you not only get to see all the soldiers come in and out, but you get to see all of the equipment go in and out. So to, to, to explain to people. Yeah, so. So to explain to people the level of fraud, waste and abuse, they would essentially have brand new military vehicles, we call them MRAPs, sitting there, like in a, in a field, just sitting there unused. They ended up having to destroy them. And when we left Afghanistan, if you remember, we left a lot of that equip because the powers that be said, oh, well, it's actually cheaper to keep it here and destroy it than it is to ship it back. So this is what happened with our tax dollars. Equipment down the drain or handed over to the Taliban or destroyed. You let me know if that really makes sense. I don't think that makes sense at all.

[Sean]

I've even seen Sean Ryan on his show that we're somehow funding the Taliban or al Qaeda.

[Devory]

48 million a week.

[Sean]

What is that about?

[Devory]

Well, essentially it happens in an indirect way, but it happens in the end. So through the refugee program, we donate 48 million to Afghanistan? Well, because of this program and the aid, it gets into the hands of the Taliban because they obviously dominate that area. Wow. And here's the thing about Afghanistan that most people don't realize, which is now, when you look back, it's all a sham. It's the one country that's never been conquered. Russia tried it, America tried it, other countries have tried it. All have failed in the end. I mean, think about why that's a great question. I don't know.

[Sean]

Because they're not like a huge country.

[Devory]

Like, I don't know. And maybe, maybe if we look deeper, maybe it's not about conquering. Maybe it's about making it appear like we're trying to conquer. And what we're really doing is trying to use the natural resources like poppy seed there and the influence of the Taliban to get what we want. And when I Say we, not me and you, the politicians.

[Sean]

I mean, when you look into the weapons of mass destruction narrative, that was all bullshit.

[Devory]

Exactly. Right now there's two sides. Side one is it was honest intelligence and it just came out to be wrong. And there's always a risk that intelligence can be wrong. And the other side of it, it was a good excuse to convince the American people to go along with this.

[Sean]

I mean, when you look at how many wars started from 9, 11, like you said, there's still war started because of that. Of course, to this day, yeah.

[Devory]

Crazy. I mean, no matter which side you lean on this, just look at the results. Anytime the United States of America intervene in the Middle east, did it ever turn out to be good in the end? According to his. Sir, the answer is no. No. Even if it justified short term gain, I'm not too sure the long term gain. And if, even if you can tell me why long term it has worked, I don't think you're going to be able to convince an entire generation of that. Like today, Gen Z, you're not going to be able to tell them. My generation of millennials, we grew up seeing the Twin Towers. That's an emotional impact. We're in the classroom seeing this unfold. Gen Z didn't experience that.

[Sean]

I'm at the point now where I truly think we'll be in a war for the rest of our lives.

[Devory]

It's possible. Yeah. I mean, and here's the thing, when you say war, I mean, there's so many wars happening. There's information right now. Right.

[Sean]

Information warrior.

[Devory]

Right. I mean, think about it. I mean think of, think of what the algorithm is doing.

[Sean]

That's gonna happen forever. Information war for sure.

[Devory]

Yeah. AI could be up there, I think, I think, and this is a hot take, I guess, but I don't think we need to go to war with our military. And when I, when I say that, I'm talking about our adversary, our greatest one, China. You think China needs to go to war with us, with their military? All they need to do is cut off their supply chains. Think about that. They own our supply chain.

[Sean]

We get a lot of stuff.

[Devory]

We saw that during COVID Think about from a cybersecurity standpoint, how they've already infiltrated our country. Think about what they did with the TikTok algorithm. They changed a generation and, and the way they think and how they consume information.

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[Devory]

Sean, that's a whole nother. That, that's a, that's something that's not even spoken about. The easy thing to do is. Yeah, you know, we, we, we should go to war. That's not going to happen. They don't, they don't need to do that.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's like the last resort, right?

[Devory]

Yeah, that's the last resort.

[Sean]

Yeah. They've, they've also bought a lot of farmland here.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

They might be in our food system already.

[Devory]

Exactly.

[Sean]

They think in terms of 100 years in China.

[Devory]

Yeah. So I, I say all this and, and again this gets into like foreign influence. I know right now the big hot topic is Israel.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Devory]

But if you think Israel is a problem, imagine how big of a problem China is. And they're, they're so big as a problem that it's not even obvious to.

[Sean]

The average American that's how good they are.

[Devory]

Exactly.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So when you think of the biggest threats to America, you put China at the top of that.

[Devory]

Oh no. Well, I mean outs, external threat, China, internal threat. The money, that's in politics.

[Sean]

Really.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So you think it's doing that much damage?

[Devory]

Well, for sure. I think DI was a money scheme. I think Black Lives Matter was a money scheme because ultimately the people who got paid the most money, where are they today? Yeah, I don't hear anything from them.

[Sean]

BLM's already been debunked at this point.

[Devory]

Exactly. So when they're pushing that hard, someone's on the other end of that getting the money. That's why the corporations went along with it. It was a way for them to get money. Think about how many grants they got from the federal government. Just imagine that. Think about the programs that were started for DEI and how that was funded. Who got paid in the end. And here's the other thing. Who gets the short end of the stick at the end of the day? The black community. They were supposed to be the ones who benefited from Black Lives Matter, who benefited from dei? In fact, no, we did not benefit. In fact, it made our image even worse.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Devory]

If you think about it, because now if you see someone in a leadership position who happens to be black, what is the first thought?

[Sean]

Dei. 100%.

[Devory]

And I don't blame people for thinking that way. I can't make them think the way I would think. Of course, you know, I still say, hey, listen, the other thing that's true is don't always think that.

[Sean]

Of course.

[Devory]

Obviously. Right. Let the results do the talking. Okay. There's a lot of competent people who are black in leadership positions. But when you see. And I'll give you a prime example so everybody understands, I'm not just blowing smoke here. When you see the D.C. mayor, the D.C. police chief, what just came out, the D.C. police Chief just resigned for cooking the books regarding the crime data in a city that is predominantly black.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Devory]

What's going on with that?

[Sean]

I didn't see that.

[Devory]

Well, yeah, how about the former mayor of New Orleans who got voted out? She's got 13 federal indictments for employing her boyfriend as a security guard with public funds, and he never actually showed up to work. Allegedly. Okay, what about the congresswoman out of Florida, McCormick, who was taking Covid money and putting it into the pockets of her family, you know, and then obviously the leaders of Black Lives Matter, who on record never gave any money to the actual victims.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Devory]

And then the worst of them all. I know I'm going on here. But the worst of them all, Brandon Johnson, what has he done for the city of Chicago? They thought Lori Lightfoot was an issue, but this guy, the lowest approval rating, hasn't done anything for the black community in there. And it's not about your skin color. The point that I'm making is they lead with race. And if we follow their logic about leading with race, it's still doesn't add up. Because if you're leading with race and you're cooking the books on crime data. How is that exactly helping you leading with race and saying that you care about black lives? That doesn't make any sense.

[Sean]

Not at all.

[Devory]

So that's why I say it's all a scam, essentially. Yeah.

[Sean]

Books could be cooked if numbers can be manipulated. It makes you wonder, like, where to get real information these days. Right?

[Devory]

Exactly.

[Sean]

You know.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

It makes you really, like, question stuff. If crime statistics can be just blatantly lied about.

[Devory]

Right.

[Sean]

What. What do I trust at that point?

[Devory]

So that's why I take pride in the show because essentially what I've. I've just been able to kind of pay attention to are the, are the patterns, which is that what Democrats will do no longer is we will not fight you on the surface level stuff. We'll just go in and change the rules to the game. That's why the past administration, Joe Biden, tried to change the language in title nine. That's the foundation of sports in our education system. So if they want boys playing in girls sports, the best thing for them to do is not to argue with people in public about it. The best thing to do is to change the language on the books without telling anyone. You could argue all you want, but they've changed the law. That's essentially what happened in California. So that's all we have to stay aware of. Because, and I'll just put it to you this way, the reason why Democrats, particularly the progressives, are dangerous is because they're willing to change the laws to match their ideology.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Devory]

Republicans, on the other hand, that's not always what's happening because there's different ideologies within the Republican Party. You got people who are really conservative financially for this country. That does not always match up with overall what, what the party's trying to accomplish. It definitely doesn't match up with what the President just did by issuing these checks to military personnel. $1,776. That's not what some people in the Republican Party would agree with. But see, there's a more diversified thought on the right side of things versus on the left, if that makes sense.

[Sean]

A few major shootings happened this week. Do you think it's a gun issue? Do you think it's a mental health issue? Do you think it's religious? Like, where do you put the blame?

[Devory]

Mostly I, I think, I think the grand scheme of things to solve this problem, it's a pie. There are multiple pieces to a pie. So the gun issue is not it, that's not one of, of the pieces. Even if I gave them that just to throw them a bone, that's not it. Okay, what about the security measures on universities to begin with? I know this firsthand. If you grow up in California, all of the high schools, elementary schools and middle schools are gated. You can't just walk onto the campus. You gotta check in at the universities. Why is there. And I'm not asking for a military style base. Okay. I'm asking for entry points that are videotaped 247 and that if you check in, we know who's on campus. Is that too much to ask for? I mean, if you're worth $8 billion.

[Sean]

If these universities are charging 70k a year for tuition, I think they could afford installing some extra cameras.

[Devory]

Exactly, exactly. But what they will do is either one, and these are obviously some things that are coming out that have not been truly confirmed by authorities. But they say that these cameras were not recorded or they're refusing to release it because of who they believe the shooter actually is, which may be someone who's not an actual US citizen. Now if that comes out to be true, I wouldn't be shocked. It kind of explained the level of incompetence. But if we get back to the, to the shootings, I think mental health is definitely an issue. No question about it. I think the Internet is giving a curse.

[Sean]

There's an SSLRI link with a lot of these shootings.

[Devory]

Exactly.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Devory]

And I know RFK Jr even talked about that. But if you just think about what the Internet can help someone become, whether it's a positive or negative, it doesn't take much for someone to become radicalized if you think about it. Okay. And so the mental health component is huge, but the security part is huge too. I think they're just. It just doesn't make sense that someone can enter at least a main building. Maybe not even, maybe not even the classroom, but just the main building or even the exit and entry points of the property itself. And you're not caught on camera. Yeah, that just doesn't make it.

[Sean]

Not at all. I mean, I went to Rutgers, which is a huge college in Jersey. I could have easily walked in with a gun with, without cameras catching me 100%.

[Devory]

And, and here's the thing. So this kind of, you know, why we're all here, right? Because of Charlie. I, I always, you know, challenge people to do something simple in their mind. It is not hard to do what just happened. It's not hard to do what Happened to Charlie, you could get in your car today, go down to your local community college and tell me how hard would it be for you to get on the roof without being noticed.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's the crazy part. No change happened after all that, you know.

[Devory]

Exactly, exactly.

[Sean]

Makes you really wonder, do they give a shit?

[Devory]

But, but that's how vulnerable we can be as a nation, especially when we have people in our country who we may not even know who they are, where they are, why they're here. Which is why I do understand the, the aggressiveness to get people out of our country because the vetting process was non existent.

[Sean]

How do you think Trump's done so far with that, with the ICE raids, with deportating, with the self deportations overall?

[Devory]

Yeah. So I would say an A. I think on the Boulder knocked it out of the park. Of course. I think that obviously the public is not going to like what they see because they're not doing the actual job. Right. So a lot of people are going to see these clips and they're going to think, oh well, what the heck, you know, why did you, for example, why would you deport a veteran who deployed, was injured, received a Purple Heart? Why? Well, because the law states that if you're not in the country lawfully, you're subject to deportation. That particular situation is what mainstream media will use to persuade public opinion. The, the issue is in that particular story. That's a great example where politicians, like people in Congress, should be doing their job. Why didn't you guys make some type of amendment that if someone served in the military and particularly got deployed, automatically they become a citizen? Why, why, why are we gonna let someone go to go, go to war, come back and still try to play around with their citizens?

[Sean]

It doesn't make sense.

[Devory]

It doesn't make sense. Right. So of course he's part of the people who get, you know, caught by dhs. But he committed crimes. There's so much more to his story. My point is this about this entire situation? What Joe Biden did was radical. He did not enforce the law and he prevented people from enforcing a law. So by the laws of the universe, in my opinion here, what is the response? A radical one. Right. President Trump is elected, he goes into these neighborhoods, he gets them out. It's radical. Yeah, but so was what Joe Biden.

[Sean]

Did, letting them in.

[Devory]

You'd be surprised at how radical this stuff looks. It was just as radical, if not more radical, by letting people into the country at the amount that they did. So, you know, it's I can't expect the president to do anything differently. Yeah. I would expect him to be pretty gung ho about this. Now, I just want to clarify something. The difference between him and Obama is Obama did not have to go into the neighborhoods. They caught them at the border. Right. And deported them. So the problem with the president is he has to actually go into neighborhood sanctuary cities that don't want these people.

[Sean]

Yeah. He has to be the bad guy, right?

[Devory]

Yeah, yeah, essentially.

[Sean]

Yeah. And then they'll film it and it's on the news. The next step.

[Devory]

Exactly, right?

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Devory]

Yeah.

[Sean]

What about the Elon Omar son getting pulled over by ice? Did you follow that story?

[Devory]

I did. I just talked about it. I don't buy it. But even if it was true, I don't think they were doing anything wrong because ultimately we have people in the country illegally. And it's not just a person's skin color. That is part of what they would call racial profiling. There's other factors, too. And here's the other reason why I don't buy it is because if this did happen, why didn't her son get a photo, the name of the officer, the location of where it took place?

[Sean]

Right. They got cams now.

[Devory]

Exactly. We've seen everything else. Wouldn't that be. Would that have been the perfect clip for them to use? Right. So where is it? Yeah, so we'll see. Maybe it'll come out, maybe it won't. But. Yeah, that was kind of my reaction to it.

[Sean]

Yeah. That's fisherman.

[Devory]

Yeah. And she has bigger problems on her hands, by the way, besides her son, in my opinion. Yeah.

[Sean]

You still hard on aoc? She's been pretty silent these days.

[Devory]

AOC is obviously going to have a big role in the future of the Democrat Party. There's no question about that. I think she represents the voter out there who does not believe in the current system as it stands. And she even represents a voter who may not be aware today that they may potentially vote for someone like her in the future because they just. I'll give a great example. People who just voted for Zuron Mondani. There's a lot of people who didn't know they were going to do that.

[Sean]

No.

[Devory]

Okay, but what choice did you give New Yorkers? What did Eric Adams do exactly?

[Sean]

Nothing.

[Devory]

What? I mean, see, that's the thing about both sides of the aisle. If they keep jacking around, we have a new generation here that I believe will do radical things. They will vote radical. If capitalism doesn't work for Gen Z What do you expect them to do? Exactly. Because what's going to start becoming attractive is socialism. Well, listen, I can't get by, I can't buy a house. Health care is expensive. These people keep telling me the government will pay for it moving forward, might as well do it. We've tried everything else. Yeah. So this is why common sense has to come back and we have to demand it. So AOC is just a product of what's happening in politics. And that's just the way I see it.

[Sean]

Gen Z and Millennials are struggling financially. You're right, though. Capitalism is under attack, I believe.

[Devory]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Sean]

It's a lot of people living day to day, check by check, these days.

[Devory]

You know, we talk about that on the show a lot. And I'll just kind of share this really quickly here. The number one lesson that I think Gen Z has to learn is understanding this new economy and how simple it is for them to rise above inflation. So for the older generations out there, it's going to be a little more difficult because they're caught in the old way of doing things. So if I was 18 years today, 18 years old, my objective would be what skill can I develop that will solve a problem that people want to pay for? Okay. I give you a great example of that. How many people who attended this event, the big names who are going to fly in on private jets.

[Sean]

A lot of them.

[Devory]

A lot of them. How many of those private jets need to be cleaned and detailed?

[Sean]

All of them.

[Devory]

A lot. That's a very valuable skill. Time sensitive. Right. Someone who's 19 years old, 21 years old, who can have enough confidence to speak and can develop a skill. They get paid a lot of money doing.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah. You can make six figures a year off that.

[Devory]

Right. And that's with your hands. Okay. But there's also the virtual digital route, like what you're doing, what I'm doing, you know, and so Gen Z is in a position where it's a paradox. There's never been a time in history where it's easy to make a lot of money quick.

[Sean]

Yeah. Okay.

[Devory]

If you think about it. But it's also never been a time in history where it's just so much information, so much noise out there. Where do I go?

[Sean]

True.

[Devory]

Right. So it's like a paradox. So I always tell people, go back to the timeless principles. Figure out what you're great at. Figure out what skill you've developed. Go solve a problem for people.

[Sean]

I love it, man.

[Devory]

And it, it'll just kind of take care of itself from there.

[Sean]

Great advice, dude. Thanks for that. Because I got a young audience. I think they need to hear that.

[Devory]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Sean]

This was one of my favorite episodes, man.

[Devory]

I appreciate it.

[Sean]

Thanks for your time. Where can people watch your show?

[Devory]

Yeah, absolutely. It's the. The. The Devore Darken Show. We're on YouTube x Instagram, but my podcast mainly goes live on Rumble, and we then upload clips to YouTube.

[Sean]

Awesome. Thanks for your time, brother.

[Devory]

Thank you so much.

[Sean]

Yeah. Good seeing you.

[Devory]

I appreciate you.

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[Devory]

Thank you.