Did Aliens Give Us Modern Technology?... | George Noory | DSH #1999

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Podcast Summary

Digital Social Hour
Episode Title: Did Aliens Give Us Modern Technology?... | George Noory | DSH #1999
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: George Noory (Host of Coast to Coast AM)
Date: June 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this thought-provoking episode, Sean Kelly sits down with legendary paranormal and UFO broadcaster George Noory to explore the provocative question: Did aliens give humans modern technology? The conversation traverses UFO disclosure, ancient astronaut theories, reverse engineering, Skinwalker Ranch, crypto, spiritual beliefs, and more. Noory shares his decades of investigative experience, memorable interviews, and unique worldview, offering listeners both skepticism and wonder.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. UFO Disclosure and Government Secrecy

• Disclosure Hopes:
  • Sean and George discuss the likelihood of government disclosure about extraterrestrial visitations.
  • George notes, "President Trump says he's gonna do it. We'll find out." (05:20)
• Classified Files:
  • George believes that whatever’s eventually disclosed is likely information they've "already reported on," repeating, "We’ve been visited. We might have been seeded. Who knows?" (05:50)
• Manipulation by Fear:
  • On why governments cast aliens in a negative light: "If you keep people scared, you keep your thumbs on people. And that’s what governments try to do." (06:55)

2. Ancient Contacts and the ‘Gods’

• Aliens as Deities:
  • George suggests that alien encounters date back to the "beginning of mankind" and that our gods "might be our gods." (06:09–06:16)
  • He encourages reexamining religious texts: "Look at the Bible. Put aliens instead of angels. It makes a lot of sense." (06:21)

3. Area 51, Roswell, and Reverse Engineering

• Area 51 Updates:

  • George Knapp references his investigations and connections to the infamous military base, noting its uniqueness. "Like Area 51?... probably just one." (08:21)

• Roswell Crash:

  • When asked about Roswell's location, he says, "I don't think it's still there. It's probably back in Area 51." (11:24)

• Reverse Engineered Tech:

  • Explicitly asserts: "A lot of it’s reverse engineered technology... There's no question about it." (12:29–12:34)
  • Sean asks about possible origin of AI and other advances: "Everything that is on this planet today came from extraterrestrial technology. Artificial intelligence, flying spacecraft, maybe time travel." (13:02–13:08)

  Notable Quote:
  "Everything that is on this planet today came from extraterrestrial technology."
  — George Noory (13:02)

4. Belief Spectrum — Aliens, Cryptids, Ghosts, and More

• Broad Belief:
  • "I believe in all this stuff... Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster. Yep, all of it. There’s too much out there." (19:08–19:13)
• Exceptions:
  • Humorously refuses Flat Earth, "Tried to trick me, didn’t you?" (19:19)
• Spiritual/Paranormal:
  • Open to ghosts, demons, and simulation theory. (19:02–20:55)
• Skinwalker Ranch:
  • Discusses mysterious phenomena, spiritual significance, and both men’s hesitation to spend a night there.
  • George: “It's a very weird place, my friend... But it's a strange place and it's made on very special ground.” (13:38, 14:13)

5. Life On Mars, Bases on the Moon, and Conspiracies

• Stance on Extraterrestrial Locations:
  • George denies current life on Mars and secret lunar bases.
  • On the moon landings: "There's no question. We went to the moon. We risked way too much not to go." (22:23–22:25)
• Antarctica:
  • Agrees that "strange stuff” happens in Antarctica, suggesting, "There could be a city down there, who knows? But it’s weird." (33:22–33:30)

6. Career, Motivation, and Crypto Backstory

• Coast to Coast AM's Longevity:
  • Celebrating 30 years and over 10,000 episodes. (26:11–26:21)
  • Motivation: "Never stops. I love it. It’s not work. It’s fun." (26:34–26:39)
• Host Sean’s Crypto Background:
  • Early crypto adopter, used Bitcoin in high school for fake IDs, now invested heavily:

    "That's how I got into crypto... I used to buy in high school to buy fake IDs... That was when Bitcoin was like $2 a dollar or something. Crazy." (27:32–28:36)

  • Claims $10 million earned, but with significant market volatility. (28:54–28:58)

7. Memorable Interviews and Eerie Moments

• Benjamin Creme Interview:
  • Describes an unnerving interview with the claimed "representative of the Antichrist," causing both him and listeners to feel physically ill:

    "People would call me on the air and say, get him off. I feel sick." (31:26)

• Edgar Mitchell:
  • Cites Apollo 14 astronaut as credible for moon landing belief. (32:18–32:26)

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Notable Quotes

• On Alien Influence:

  "Everything that is on this planet today came from extraterrestrial technology." (13:02)

• On Government Secrecy:

  "If you keep people scared, you keep your thumbs on people. And that's what governments try to do." (06:55)

• On Belief in the Paranormal:

  "I believe in all this stuff... Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster. Yep, all of it." (19:08)

• On Work Ethic:

  "Never stops. I love it. It's not work. It's fun, Sean." (26:39)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [05:20] – Will Trump disclose UFO secrets?
• [06:13] – Aliens as gods; Bible reinterpretation
• [08:21] – Area 51's uniqueness
• [13:02] – Alien tech as origin for all modern innovation
• [14:13] – Skinwalker Ranch and its mysteries
• [19:08] – Noory's wide-open belief in the paranormal
• [22:23] – On humans landing on the moon
• [28:58] – Sean's $10M crypto story
• [31:26] – The discomforting Benjamin Creme interview

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Memorable & Lighthearted Moments

• The hosts joking about their IQs and who is "boy genius” (27:01–27:10)
• Inverting the interview, George making “Coast to Coast” references (15:23–15:28)
• Back-and-forth on whether they’d ever spend a night at Skinwalker Ranch (“I'll go if you go”—14:33)
• Gently debunking Flat Earth and joking about Eddie Bravo’s influence (32:58–33:04)

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers an engaging blend of speculation, investigative journalism, and playful debate. George Noory’s willingness to entertain fringe ideas while maintaining a window for skepticism makes for an entertaining listen. Whether you're a firm believer, a skeptic, or just curious, the episode delivers a robust overview of UFO lore, government secrecy, and the possibility that our universe is far stranger—and more interconnected—than most are willing to believe.

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Transcript

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[George Knapp]

He's the best investigative reporter when it comes to UFOs. He interviewed a guy named Bob Lazar. Yep, and Lazar of course is the one who said we've got craft there, aliens there. Everything that is on this planet today came from extraterrestrial technology.

[Podcast Host]

Really? So AI came from aliens, you think? Okay guys, here at Conscious Life Expo we got George here today. Legend in the Media space. Thanks for coming on today, man.

[George Knapp]

Sean, I love it. It's a great event and you do a fantastic job, my friend.

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Thanks. I try.

[George Knapp]

How'd you get into it?

[Podcast Host]

Watching guys like you. Honestly, watching guys like you, Rogan, all the top podcasts and shows, getting inspired and then taking the leap for myself three years ago.

[George Knapp]

Joe does a great job, too.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Jordan. I mean, he's the goat in my eyes.

[George Knapp]

We're blessed to have all these great people.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, he was the first one I saw kind of exposing UFOs like 10 years ago on mainstream. Well, you were before him, but on a mainstream level. You know what I mean?

[George Knapp]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

He was having on guys and that were just like, blowing my mind. Like Stephen Greer and people like that.

[George Knapp]

You think we're going to get disclosure finally?

[Podcast Host]

I'm optimistic. What do you think? You're the man to ask that question, too.

[George Knapp]

President Trump says he's gonna do it. We'll find out.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. You got faith in him?

[George Knapp]

Yeah, I do.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[George Knapp]

I do.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. I mean, he did release part of that.

[George Knapp]

He's a toughie.

[Podcast Host]

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[George Knapp]

I don't get along with everything he does, but he's a toughie.

[Podcast Host]

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You excited for that release when it comes out, are you? Kind of. How are you feeling about it?

[George Knapp]

I'll probably go. Well, we told you so.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because you've been doing this for a while.

[George Knapp]

Long time.

[Podcast Host]

What do you think's in those files? Anything that's going to surprise you.

[George Knapp]

It's everything we've probably reported on. We've been visited. We've been visited. We might have been seated. Who knows?

[Podcast Host]

Seated by the grace by somebody. Yeah. When did you think the visit started or started ramping up?

[George Knapp]

A long time ago.

[Podcast Host]

You don't think it's anything recent?

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

How long we talking?

[George Knapp]

Beginning of mankind.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[George Knapp]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. What makes you feel that way?

[George Knapp]

They might be our gods.

[Podcast Host]

Aliens might be gods.

[George Knapp]

Our gods. That's right.

[Podcast Host]

Explain that.

[George Knapp]

Look at the Bible. Put aliens instead of angels. It makes a lot of sense. Doesn't would.

[Podcast Host]

I could see that argument.

[George Knapp]

And we're being visited. We have been visited and we're still being visited.

[Podcast Host]

So you don't think they're evil?

[George Knapp]

Some are.

[Podcast Host]

Some breeds are.

[George Knapp]

Yep. Just like humans. Most of you are all good people out here.

[Podcast Host]

Someone in this room is evil.

[George Knapp]

But there's one evil one, right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But the government wants to portray them as all evil.

[George Knapp]

Wealth control. If you keep people scared, you keep your thumbs on people. And that's what governments try to do. Yeah. Not all do them. Not all of them, but some of them do that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Obama pretty much confirmed aliens exist a few days ago.

[George Knapp]

Yes and no.

[Podcast Host]

You don't think so? He might have been playing around, planting the seed.

[George Knapp]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[George Knapp]

He didn't give much information.

[Podcast Host]

You never know.

[George Knapp]

President Trump said it was all classified and he released it, but he didn't say much.

[Podcast Host]

Trump did seem annoyed. Annoyed that he said that, though.

[George Knapp]

That's because he didn't do it.

[Podcast Host]

That makes sense. I live in Vegas, you know, by Area 51. You've done a lot of investigation. Last spot. What's the latest there? Because there was. There was a fire there a year ago.

[George Knapp]

I'm blessed to have a reporter on our staff. George Knapp. He's the best investigative reporter when it comes to UFOs. And he. He's based in Vegas. You got to talk to him, if you haven't already.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I've heard of him.

[George Knapp]

But he says there's something going on there. He interviewed a guy named Bob Lazar.

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[George Knapp]

And Lazar, of course, is the one who said, we've got craft there. Aliens there. I think he's right.

[Podcast Host]

And how many of those bases you think are in the country or in the world? You think that there's a lot?

[George Knapp]

Like Area 51? Yeah, probably just one.

[Podcast Host]

So they're one of a kind.

[George Knapp]

It's not many. No.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[George Knapp]

Not at all.

[Podcast Host]

There's theories that they might have moved all the stuff from there to another one, but who knows?

[George Knapp]

Well, they said the crash this Father's

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[George Knapp]

Wright Patterson Air Force Base. I don't think it's still there. It's probably back in Area 51.

[Podcast Host]

Was Roswell the first case that got you interested in all this?

[George Knapp]

I've been interested since I was 11. In the Barney and Betty Hill abduction case.

[Podcast Host]

I'm not familiar with that one.

[George Knapp]

It's one of the best abduction cases ever. A married couple in New Hampshire claims that they were abducted by Kraft in Aliens. I interviewed their psychiatrist back in 1971.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[George Knapp]

And I asked him a specific question. Dr. Benjamin Simon. Were they lying to you? And he said, no, they're not lying. I don't know what happened to them. I don't know if it happened. But they believe it happened and that's the important thing. It's a great story.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You've also interviewed people that have recovered UFOs crash sites, right?

[George Knapp]

Yes, many people.

[Podcast Host]

What's going on with those?

[George Knapp]

They've got debris and they actually have it somewhere. Governments have it.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[George Knapp]

A lot of it's reverse engineered technology.

[Podcast Host]

You think they've done it by now? Reverse engineering?

[George Knapp]

Oh, there's no question about it, Sean.

[Podcast Host]

That's what I wonder with these modern day UFO settings, if it's just our own government flying them sometimes.

[George Knapp]

We've learned a lot from them.

[Podcast Host]

Damn, that's crazy. So alien technology is here. Humans have copied it.

[George Knapp]

Thank God.

[Podcast Host]

You think that's a good thing?

[George Knapp]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Better us than somebody else.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Other than flying, what type of like flying spacecrafts, what type of technology you think they had?

[George Knapp]

Everything that is on this planet today came from extraterrestrial technology.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[George Knapp]

Artificial intelligence. Flying spacecraft, AI Maybe AI Maybe time travel, time travel, all kinds of stuff.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap. So AI came from the aliens, you think?

[George Knapp]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Why do you think that?

[George Knapp]

It's my gut.

[Podcast Host]

Damn, that's crazy. Okay, Skinwalker ranch. I mentioned it before we started filming Brandon's spot. Have you done a lot of investigation into that spot?

[George Knapp]

I have. Not personally. George Knapp has. He's been there. He's written a book about it. It's a very weird place, my friend. Would you spend the night there? It's not too far from where you live.

[Podcast Host]

I wouldn't.

[George Knapp]

Why?

[Podcast Host]

I just value my personal space and I don't want demons attacking me. And what else is over there? It scares me.

[George Knapp]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Would you spend the night there?

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's the risk to reward, isn't there? I'll let other people do that. Let them do it and I'll interview them.

[George Knapp]

That's what they're there for.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I'll interview them and.

[George Knapp]

But it's a strange place and it's it's made on very special ground.

[Podcast Host]

That's.

[George Knapp]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I always wonder. Native American ground.

[George Knapp]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

So just really spiritual.

[George Knapp]

Hundreds of years old.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. I always wondered what's going on there, but, yeah, I won't go there anytime soon. He invited me.

[George Knapp]

Do it.

[Podcast Host]

No, if you go, I'll go. I'm not gonna.

[George Knapp]

I might do my show from there.

[Podcast Host]

I'm not gonna sleep there, but I'll go during the day where I could see things if I'm being attacked or not.

[George Knapp]

I'm not sleeping there if you're there.

[Podcast Host]

No. I get invited to the haunted. Most haunted places and I. I don't go. Doesn't seem worth it.

[George Knapp]

Well, are you scared of it?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You're not?

[George Knapp]

No. How could you be in this business and be scared of it?

[Podcast Host]

Well, I'm not really in the business. I just have a podcast and I interview people.

[George Knapp]

Just a podcast. Right.

[Podcast Host]

I'm not like in the Alien or.

[George Knapp]

You're doing pretty well for yourself, my friend.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, but I'm not going to sleep at a haunted spot. You know, that's stuff might follow you home. And I went to Zach Bagan's Haunted museum in Vegas and I regretted that.

[George Knapp]

What happened?

[Podcast Host]

Weird stuff. Yeah, weird stuff.

[George Knapp]

What's the weirdest thing? I feel like I'm interviewing you on coast to Coast.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. He turned the tables on me. I don't know. It's hard to describe. I just started having a lot of nightmares. Felt like something fell.

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[Podcast Host]

No. Still no?

[George Knapp]

No.

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[George Knapp]

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[George Knapp]

haunted museum come alive for me.

[Podcast Host]

He won't. He won't do interviews. He's an interesting guy.

[George Knapp]

No, he doesn't do a lot.

[Podcast Host]

Doesn't do any. I don't think he's ever done one.

[George Knapp]

We. We've talked to him. Twenty years ago, I think.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. That might be his only one.

[George Knapp]

That's probably why he stopped.

[Podcast Host]

Do you remember what that conversation went like?

[George Knapp]

Oh, it wasn't me.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I'm good on any, like. Do you believe in ghosts? Do you believe in that world?

[George Knapp]

Oh, of course.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, God. Are you just not scared of it?

[George Knapp]

I believe in all this stuff.

[Podcast Host]

All of it.

[George Knapp]

All of it.

[Podcast Host]

Bigfoot. Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster. Yep, all of it.

[George Knapp]

All of it.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[George Knapp]

There's too much out there. Flutter people see too much now. No, not that.

[Podcast Host]

Got one.

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[George Knapp]

Tried to trick me, didn't you?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Try to try to slide it in there, you know? Yeah. I guess if you believe in aliens. Everything else isn't too far fetched, though. Demons, ghosts, parallel universes.

[George Knapp]

Why are we here? How do we get here? You believe in God?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Not in the traditional sense, but I believe in a creator.

[George Knapp]

You believe in a creator?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[George Knapp]

Okay. Which is God?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

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[Podcast Host]

But not like the guy in the sky type of.

[George Knapp]

No, it's not a guy in the clouds.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I don't believe in that. God Creator. Yeah. Simulation theory. Do you believe in that?

[George Knapp]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, so we're on the same page.

[George Knapp]

Same page, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Just not flatter.

[George Knapp]

There's something there.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Mars. Life on Mars.

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

You don't believe in that? Maybe once at one time, but not anymore. No secret bases on the moon right now?

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, so we differ slightly.

[George Knapp]

You think there's spaces on the moon?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Billy Carson and I think that Billy does.

[George Knapp]

Yeah. He's a good guy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I think on the dark side of the moon there's something there.

[George Knapp]

Ego Swan, the late remote viewer thought there was something on the far side of the moon too, and did.

[Podcast Host]

What happened with that?

[George Knapp]

Wrote a book called Penetration. Huh. He died.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, that's like right after he wrote the book.

[George Knapp]

He died a couple years later.

[Podcast Host]

How old was he?

[George Knapp]

God, 80s.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, okay. I was. Probably natural death. There are some mysterious deaths in our space.

[George Knapp]

Yes. He wasn't murdered.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, well, I know you talked to some whistleblowers and then end up disappearing sometimes, so.

[George Knapp]

But why do you believe there's something on the far side of the moon?

[Podcast Host]

I have no strong case. I just. Just a hutch and people I've talked to. You don't think there's any life on the moon right now?

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[George Knapp]

Barren rock.

[Podcast Host]

You think the astronauts went there?

[George Knapp]

Oh, yeah. There's no question.

[Podcast Host]

You think they went there?

[George Knapp]

I used to interview many.

[Podcast Host]

Well, they don't do interviews anymore.

[George Knapp]

Most of them have passed on. That's why a lot of them have.

[Podcast Host]

There's some around and they get filmed and give weird answers these days, but. So you, you genuinely believe they went to the moon though?

[George Knapp]

We went to the moon.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[George Knapp]

We risked way too much not to go.

[Podcast Host]

Why haven't we gone back?

[George Knapp]

That's a good question. Money, probably.

[Podcast Host]

It is expensive. Yeah.

[George Knapp]

But we're going to go back again.

[Podcast Host]

I hope so.

[George Knapp]

I think you booked on a flight to the.

[Podcast Host]

I'm good.

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[Podcast Host]

A million dollars to go to space right now.

[George Knapp]

Would you go to Mars?

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[Podcast Host]

Would you?

[George Knapp]

No. Way too long.

[Podcast Host]

Too long.

[George Knapp]

I'd miss this planet.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Chime Promoter]

It's months to get there.

[George Knapp]

I'd go to the moon.

[Podcast Host]

I would not.

[George Knapp]

It's only a few days.

[Podcast Host]

Doesn't seem worth it.

[George Knapp]

You wouldn't do it? No.

[Podcast Host]

You saw that one Apollo mission? I forget the number. Was it 11?

[George Knapp]

The one they went to the first one.

[Podcast Host]

The one that crashed or exploded.

[George Knapp]

That was. No, that was the one that burned up.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Was that 11?

[George Knapp]

Apollo 1.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, Apollo 1. Okay. I'm thinking of something else. Yeah, I don't know. I'm good on that.

[George Knapp]

That was a sad story.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You could just stay on Earth, man.

[George Knapp]

Nothing wrong with good old planet Earth.

[Podcast Host]

Prison planet, some call it, but it's all I know.

[George Knapp]

I love it.

[Podcast Host]

I don't think it's the worst thing other people.

[George Knapp]

So, what's up?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I don't know. I'm just. Just vibing. What's. What's the next big project you're working on? I guess. What's the next big mission for you?

[George Knapp]

I can't tell you yet.

[Podcast Host]

Secret?

[George Knapp]

Secret.

[Podcast Host]

Coming out this year.

[George Knapp]

Listen to the show.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Which show? You got a few shows, right?

[George Knapp]

Coast to coast.

[Podcast Host]

Coast to coast. How many episodes are you guys at now?

[George Knapp]

Oh, God. How many, Gina? 30 years.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[George Knapp]

30 years. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So she said. 365 for the last 30 years.

[George Knapp]

Yep.

[Podcast Host]

So that is over 10,000 episodes, easy. That's impressive. That's a world record. I think 30. So you don't take a day off?

[George Knapp]

I'm working today.

[Podcast Host]

You're not slowing down.

[George Knapp]

Never stops.

[Podcast Host]

That's impressive. So you are really motivated.

[George Knapp]

I love it.

[Podcast Host]

I can tell.

[George Knapp]

It's not work. It's fun, Sean.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I could tell. That's a long time.

[George Knapp]

Same with you. You're enjoying yourself.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I've done 1800 in three years.

[George Knapp]

Good for you. What got you to start finding purpose

[Podcast Host]

in life and meaning?

[George Knapp]

What did you do before that?

[Podcast Host]

I made a lot of money in crypto. Did very well. So I had a lot of money at a young age.

[George Knapp]

You're one of those genius boys.

[Podcast Host]

No, my Q's like 130.

[George Knapp]

That's not bad.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Nothing crazy, but I think I'm good.

[George Knapp]

135.

[Podcast Host]

Yes. You're almost a genius.

[George Knapp]

Five more than you.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, five more. But no, I was never the smart kid growing up. I did that in school. I just got pretty lucky with crypto.

[George Knapp]

What did you think about Crypto before you started it?

[Podcast Host]

Before I started the show?

[George Knapp]

Before you got involved with.

[Podcast Host]

Well, I bought it. I used to buy in high school to buy fake IDs. So that was how. What? I thought about it. I didn't think it would ever turn.

[George Knapp]

Used to buy it for fake IDs. How did that work?

[Podcast Host]

Well, to get the fake IDs from China, you had to buy it in crypto.

[George Knapp]

That's where the IDs came from?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, China.

[George Knapp]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Chime Promoter]

And they scanned at the bar.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they look great. They scanned at the bar. We would take the photos of my mom's basement and then I'd email the photos and send him the bitcoin. I think statute of limitations has passed, so I could say this.

[George Knapp]

God, I hope so. They're gonna come in right now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But yeah, it. That's how I did it. And luckily I had some from that. But also invested.

[George Knapp]

Is there a big market for fake

[Podcast Host]

IDs in high school?

[George Knapp]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, high school and college.

[George Knapp]

They make you what, 21?

[Podcast Host]

Whatever you want. Some guys did 30, some guys did 21.

[George Knapp]

20, 18 year old kid's not going

[Podcast Host]

to look 30 somewhere. I'm 29. But some had facial hair in high school so they could pull it off.

[George Knapp]

Interesting. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So that's how I got into crypto.

[George Knapp]

Really?

[Chime Promoter]

And look at it now.

[Podcast Host]

That was when bitcoin was like $2 a dollar or something. Crazy.

[George Knapp]

I think crypto is going to crash, don't you?

[Podcast Host]

It's already crashing. It always does, though.

[George Knapp]

Yeah, that's risky.

[Podcast Host]

It's down 50% this year.

[George Knapp]

That's huge.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Bitcoin's at 60k right now.

[George Knapp]

How much did you make,

[Podcast Host]

like in total? It's got to be over 10 miles.

[George Knapp]

You made $10 million?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Not off just bitcoin, but crypto in general.

[George Knapp]

What'd you do with all?

[Podcast Host]

Spent most of it.

[George Knapp]

Did you live well?

[Podcast Host]

I'm living decent, but I'm down a lot right now. Obviously I still have a lot.

[George Knapp]

You hit the casinos?

[Podcast Host]

No, I don't gamble. Don't gamble, don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs.

[George Knapp]

Good for you.

[Podcast Host]

Gotta stay locked in.

[George Knapp]

Good for you. Are you written up somewhere?

[Podcast Host]

No, Wikipedia. Denied my page for some reason.

[George Knapp]

Why?

[Podcast Host]

I don't know.

[George Knapp]

That's a great story.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I'm too controversial for them.

[George Knapp]

You're a boy genius.

[Podcast Host]

I'm not a genius. I just work hard. I work very hard.

[George Knapp]

How many people knew that you made $10 million in crypto?

[Podcast Host]

I don't talk about it too much. Only if I get asked. So not many.

[George Knapp]

That's amazing.

[Podcast Host]

I like to move kind of in silence.

[George Knapp]

That's a huge story.

[Podcast Host]

Funny stuff. Yeah, well, there's a lot of them. It's not. It's not anything crazy.

[George Knapp]

What's the most somebody's made in crypto?

[Podcast Host]

Billions.

[George Knapp]

Billions?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. There's so many stories of guys that bought bitcoin back in the day and they sold it this year? Last year? A couple years ago.

[George Knapp]

Amazing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, but you're right. It's gonna crash.

[George Knapp]

It will. I feel it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You never bought any?

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Why?

[George Knapp]

I'm a paper cash guy. That's it.

[Podcast Host]

Cash is bad to have these days.

[George Knapp]

I Give me your 10 million in cash, I'll take it.

[Podcast Host]

It's going down every year. If you had a million dollars 100 years ago, it's only worth $20,000 right now.

[George Knapp]

That's probably what happened to me.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Being a millionaire is no longer what it used to be.

[George Knapp]

But I work for fun.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That's how it should be, though. You should work for passion and purpose. I found that through the show.

[George Knapp]

You're enjoying yourself.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I used to work only for money when I was younger.

[George Knapp]

How many shares you're knocking out on this trip?

[Podcast Host]

I did three yesterday. Eight. Eight today and eight tomorrow.

[George Knapp]

So sense.

[Podcast Host]

What? 19. Good for you. Yeah, 19. Well, what time?

[George Knapp]

At five?

[Podcast Host]

20. All right, what else we got here?

[George Knapp]

Teens.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, this is a tough question because I know you. I know you've interviewed a lot of people, but do you have favorite interviews, like ones that stand out to you?

[George Knapp]

I interviewed a guy named Benjamin Creme, who people said he was a representative of the Antichrist.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[George Knapp]

And people would call me on the air and say, get him off. I feel sick. I'm like, this is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. All of a sudden I started feeling sick. And so we ended the interview early. I felt fine. And then the emails came in. God, thank God you did that. I feel great. He was one of the weirdest interviews we've ever had. He's not with us anymore. He's on the other side.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Benjamin Crimson.

[George Knapp]

C R E M E C R E. Look that up.

[Podcast Host]

I need to look that up. Yeah. Antichrist. So he just. Just made you feel a certain way, just from his presence.

[George Knapp]

Just uneasy.

[Podcast Host]

Was that an in person interview or Phone. Wow. So he could do it over the phone.

[George Knapp]

Yeah. That's how good.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[George Knapp]

But we've had lots of great interviews. Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 astronaut, went to

[Podcast Host]

the moon, according to him.

[George Knapp]

I believe him.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. We all have.

[George Knapp]

You don't think we win? You seem doubtful.

[Podcast Host]

I. I hope we went. I just don't know.

[George Knapp]

You don't believe him?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[George Knapp]

Why?

[Podcast Host]

I just. I don't know. I don't know if we went.

[George Knapp]

No, we did. We invested way too much.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, we. No doubt. We invested a lot, you know?

[George Knapp]

And the Earth is not flat.

[Podcast Host]

I don't believe that one I don't believe the Earth is flat. I used to for like a month.

[George Knapp]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. When Eddie Bravo went on, Joe Rogan told everyone the Earth is flat. I bought it for a little bit, but now there's too much evidence against it.

[George Knapp]

The pictures I've seen were round.

[Podcast Host]

What about Antarctica, though?

[George Knapp]

What about it?

[Podcast Host]

What's going on there?

[George Knapp]

Because strange stuff.

[Podcast Host]

Really strange stuff. Right, so we agree on that.

[George Knapp]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

What's your theory on it?

[George Knapp]

A lot of testing going on and underwater stuff. There could be a city down there, who knows? But it's weird.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. No one wants to talk about it, but. Yeah, there's. You can't even go there.

[George Knapp]

No.

[Podcast Host]

No satellite imaging. If you do go there, you get arrested.

[George Knapp]

It's lonely down there.

[Podcast Host]

It's cold, but I don't know what's going on there.

[George Knapp]

Not any colder than it's been this year in this country.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. I thought global warming was happening.

[George Knapp]

That's a palace.

[Podcast Host]

I agree on that one, too. Yeah. I got five guests that have passed away since I've started.

[George Knapp]

I've got many that have passed away, too.

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It's sad.

[George Knapp]

It's sad.

[Podcast Host]

It does make you wonder, like, because some of mine were young.

[George Knapp]

That's a sad part of living.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It definitely gives you perspective on life. You've been doing this for a while, so. Yeah. I'm sure you've got a lot.

[George Knapp]

Yeah, a lot of. When I was 19, Sean. Holy crap.

[Chime Promoter]

19.

[George Knapp]

A long time ago.

[Podcast Host]

Well done. Well, George, we'll link your. Your show below. Anything else you want to close off with here.

[George Knapp]

You've got great people, great listeners and I'm proud of what you've been doing.

[Podcast Host]

Thank you. Thank you. I'll take the baton from you and continue it.

[George Knapp]

Do it.

[Podcast Host]

Thanks. Check them out, guys. Peace.

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[Podcast Host]

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[Podcast Host]

Thank you so much.