Digital Marketing Secrets from a Casino Power Player | Jerry Morris DSH #918

Summary

Digital Social Hour Episode #918: Digital Marketing Secrets from a Casino Power Player | Jerry Morris

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Jerry Morris
Release Date: November 24, 2024

In Episode #918 of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly sits down with Jerry Morris, a renowned figure in the casino and sports betting industries. The conversation delves deep into Jerry’s experiences, strategies, and insights into digital marketing, sports betting, networking, and personal lifestyle choices that have contributed to his success.

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1. Reconnecting and Podcasting Trends (00:00 - 01:13)

The episode kicks off with Sean welcoming Jerry back after a long hiatus. Jerry candidly discusses his break from content creation, stating, “I feel like I just gave up on posting content myself” (00:24). Sean shares his observations on the resurgence of podcasts, noting that they have become “booming more than ever” (00:53). Both agree that podcasts are experiencing a significant comeback, with major deals happening in the industry.

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2. Business Ventures and Focus (01:13 - 02:24)

Jerry elaborates on his current endeavors, primarily focusing on sports betting and social media businesses. He emphasizes his role in marketing and helping other people’s businesses thrive, remarking, “I’m definitely not a content creator myself, but just helping market and, you know, helping other people with their businesses” (01:02). This shift from personal content creation to supporting others underscores his strategic approach to business.

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3. Sports Betting Insights and Strategies (02:24 - 04:21)

A significant portion of the discussion centers around sports betting. Jerry shares his lifelong passion for gambling, particularly his affinity for baseball betting. He explains, “Baseball, I feel like I can actually win. I feel like I win every year” (01:56), contrasting it with other sports where he feels the odds are stacked against bettors. Jerry recounts his biggest bet of the year—a $20,000 five-team parlay—which unfortunately lost early but showcased his high-risk strategy.

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4. Networking Through Gambling (04:21 - 06:11)

Jerry highlights the importance of networking in the gambling world. He reveals that his relationships and business connections often stem from his time at casinos, stating, “I promise I met most of my clients or my biggest clients or my closest friends through gambling one way or another” (04:58). This approach not only serves as a social activity but also as a strategic business move to build and maintain valuable connections.

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5. Casino Experiences and Preferences (06:11 - 09:07)

The conversation shifts to Jerry’s favorite casinos and his experiences with different venues. He expresses a preference for Aria and Red Rock, praising their atmosphere and the relationships he has built there. Jerry mentions, “They treat me well. I have really good relationships with hosts and I love being there overall good vibe” (06:11). He contrasts this with casinos like Wynn, noting their high-profile clientele and strict betting limits for successful gamblers like Sean Perry.

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6. Lifestyle Choices and Partying (09:07 - 16:37)

Jerry opens up about his lifestyle, particularly his partying habits and how they integrate with his gambling activities. He admits to heavy drinking while gambling, often turning down free drinks, which earns him the reputation of being a “casino’s dream personality” (07:51). Reflecting on his past in Miami, Jerry discusses his time spent in clubs and how he has shifted his social scene to focus more on casinos rather than loud, impersonal environments.

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7. Adrenaline-Fueled Activities and Injuries (16:37 - 20:28)

An adventurous spirit, Jerry shares his love for extreme sports like cliff jumping and skydiving. He recounts a severe snowboarding accident where he tore ligaments in his foot, leaving him on crutches for six months—a period he describes as the most challenging of his life. “[...] that was, like, six months of. I had to move out of my building” (16:53). This experience underscores the physical risks he embraces in pursuit of adrenaline.

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8. Health, Sleep, and Personal Challenges (20:28 - 25:04)

The discussion transitions to Jerry’s struggles with sleep and health. He describes dealing with insomnia and past reliance on marijuana for sleep, which he eventually overcame. “Now I don’t need to smoke to go to sleep, but I still don’t sleep well” (15:30). Jerry emphasizes the importance of physical well-being, even amidst his high-energy lifestyle and business commitments.

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9. Gambling Strategies: Blackjack and Roulette (25:04 - 32:49)

Jerry dives into his gambling techniques, particularly in blackjack and roulette. He outlines his unique approach to blackjack, known as “blackjack fire,” where he increases his bets after hitting a blackjack, adding a layer of momentum to his strategy. “That hand after blackjack that decides if I win or lose” (23:35). In roulette, Jerry employs a method of selecting numbers based on the second digit of previous outcomes and even integrates technology by using Siri to pick numbers, leading to significant wins during his sessions.

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10. Friendships and Celebrity Interactions (32:49 - 37:32)

A notable friendship in Jerry’s life is with Bryce Hall, a well-known influencer. They bonded over gambling, sharing similar personalities and enjoying winning streaks together. Jerry recounts their interactions and the dynamics of dealing with online fame and criticism. He advises content creators to embrace both love and hate as part of building a brand, emphasizing that “haters drive an algorithm, make things go viral” (32:40).

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11. Handling Online Criticism and Building a Brand (37:32 - 40:48)

The conversation shifts to managing online hate and leveraging it for brand growth. Jerry encourages embracing criticism as a means to increase engagement and visibility. “I tell a lot of my clients that too. When I do, like, mass media stuff or I'm making people viral in different ways, [...] I hope there's a thousand more comments on it” (32:03). He highlights the importance of not being deterred by negative comments and instead using them to fuel further success.

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12. Financial Goals and Aspirations (37:32 - 40:48)

Towards the end of the episode, Jerry shares his ambitious financial goals, notably his desire to own a private jet. He outlines the practicality and benefits of such an investment for lifestyle and business flexibility. “I want to own a jet. That's definitely a goal” (39:13). The discussion touches on the logistics of jet ownership, maintenance, and potential partnerships to manage costs effectively.

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Conclusion and Contact Information

As the episode wraps up, Sean and Jerry reflect on their conversation, celebrating the insights shared and the camaraderie built during the discussion. Jerry provides his contact information for listeners interested in connecting with him for business or networking purposes.

Connect with Jerry Morris:
Instagram: @JerryM

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Notable Quotes:

• “I feel like I just gave up on posting content myself.” — Jerry Morris (00:24)
• “Baseball, I feel like I can actually win. I feel like I win every year.” — Jerry Morris (01:56)
• “I met most of my clients or my biggest clients or my closest friends through gambling one way or another.” — Jerry Morris (04:58)
• “They're doing because they want a reaction. So your actions, like, oh, it's all good, man. Love you anyway.” — Jerry Morris (35:37)
• “I want to own a jet. That's definitely a goal.” — Jerry Morris (39:13)

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This episode offers a comprehensive look into Jerry Morris’s multifaceted life, blending high-stakes gambling with strategic business insights and personal anecdotes. Whether you're interested in sports betting, digital marketing, or the lifestyle of a casino power player, Jerry’s experiences provide valuable lessons and inspiration.

Transcript

[A]

You're a casino's dream personality.

[B]

Yes, without a doubt. For sure.

[A]

You drink while you play?

[B]

Yeah, I drink aggressively. I'll play too. Honestly. It's like sometimes I do sober days and like, all the bartenders and waitresses will laugh because like, when they come in, they're like tequila shots. Like, nope, not this time.

[A]

All right, guys, Jerry Morris here today. First podcast in a while, right?

[B]

Yeah, it's been years, dude.

[A]

Why the break?

[B]

I don't know. I feel like I just gave up on posting content myself. And your podcast is dope, so. Yeah, that was easy, dude.

[A]

I feel that.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

Do you feel like you got lost in the social media sauce?

[B]

Like, yeah. Getting lost in helping other people's brands on social media, I feel like caring more about others than my own content. So there's just never a need for podcasts. It didn't really help benefit me in any way, I feel like. But you know, I watch yours all the time. I saw the clips and everything. They're great.

[A]

I appreciate that. Pods are making a comeback. I thought they were dead years ago, dude.

[B]

They are booming right now. I feel like they're booming more than ever, bro.

[A]

Two of them this week sold for nine figures.

[B]

I saw that. And multiple in the past. I sold for nine years.

[A]

Six this year.

[B]

Yeah, podcasts are in.

[A]

They're back, man.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

What you been up to, though?

[B]

Been up to, you know, sports betting businesses, social media businesses. Just staying in that lane. I'm definitely not a content creator myself, but just helping market and, you know, helping other people with their businesses.

[A]

Yeah, how you get involved in sports betting?

[B]

I mean, I've gambled most of my life. I'd say I've always sports bet, but just opportunities just align through social media and through knowing people where basically being able to help other people, you know. Yeah, scaling businesses would have been your.

[A]

Biggest bets that you've made.

[B]

The biggest bet this year I made was 20, 000 on a five team parlay. Hey, I don't know, like over a million dollars and it lost first leg.

[A]

Ah, you were confident with that one?

[B]

Yeah, I was. That's basically when I'll bet sports. Like I'll start somewhere and just kind of raise it up. So if I win, then I'm happy to put more on it and I'll keep doing that and then eventually I'll get to like, where I'm comfortable, throw 20k on something. But obviously when that loses, it's sad and then I kind of chill back out.

[A]

Geez. What? What's your best sport to bet on?

[B]

Baseball, for sure.

[A]

Really?

[B]

It's the only sport I actually enjoy betting on. I feel like. Because baseball I played in college, I played it my whole life. When I watch it, I feel like I'm pretty good at it. When other sports. The lines. The Vegas is too good at what they do with lines. I feel like I'm not sharp at all. I'm kind of a degenerate with gambling. I'm just guessing. I'm flipping a coin.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How do you win flipping a coin over and over and over again? So I feel that playing bachelor out, guessing the same thing and just, you know, I feel like it's a losing edge.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So baseball, I feel like I can actually win. I feel like I win every year.

[A]

That makes sense. And you've helped Sean Perry grow a lot too, right?

[B]

Yeah, me and Sean have, you know, done things together in business and helped him with marketing and, you know, Sean's killing it. He's obviously. Sean is a sharp in sports betting, so it's a little bit easy to help brand someone that's actually proven to be a good gambler. So it's fun working with him.

[A]

Yeah, I've seen him make some crazy bass. Dude.

[B]

Yeah. He put a million on the super bowl last year. 1.2, I think. Actually, he lost on screen. He did lose. Crazy last ending. That was actually the biggest bet of the entire year because. Yeah, like on screen. Like, meaning like a ticket with a bet slip. Yeah. MGM confirmed that was the biggest bet of the Super Bowl. And you can't even go to a sports ticket right now and try to bet a million dollars at any window.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Yeah, they have limits pretty much everywhere, especially if you're good. Sean's limited from most casinos. He can't even bet at most sports books. If he does, they'll let him. If he wants to bet 100k, they'll let him bet 5 or 1 or $1. And then they'll move the whole line on him and it ruins everything else he's trying to do. So he stays away from sportsbooks for the most part.

[A]

Dude, I saw some crazy post literally two days ago about sportsbooks. MGM lost 70 million in sports in sports books.

[B]

So the only way that I feel like that could happen is if. If, like, the public is really winning a lot, which does happen from time to time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But in generally, it' it's like anything else in gambling. Casinos exist because the house always wins.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I feel like they definitely have an edge. So unless the public Wins like huge. That's the only way I could see that happen.

[A]

That's why I was surprised it was last month. So I don't know if they.

[B]

Surprising. Yeah. Probably just a public run where, you know, things weren't going. At the end of the day with sports, like you're. You're betting on humans to do things and humans are humans. Sometimes, you know, acts of God happen. I've won a huge parlay last year where I needed a home run with one outlet in the ninth inning and it happened. No, I made like 180K.

[A]

What?

[B]

It was crazy.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

So, you know, random things like that probably shouldn't have happened, but got lucky, obviously.

[A]

Gee. So are you up or down on sports betting overall?

[B]

Sports betting overall? Up. Just because of baseball season. I don't really bet a lot on other sports and baseball. I consistently win multi six figures every. Every year in baseball. For sure.

[A]

That's pretty good to just have on the side.

[B]

Just degenerate parlays, dude, you know.

[A]

Oh, you do parlays only?

[B]

Yeah, parlays only.

[A]

That's like the worst odds I thought.

[B]

Yeah, they are. Everyone thinks I'm an idiot. Everyone thinks I'm an idiot until they win. And then if I hit like two or three lucky ones in a row, like I said, I'll scale up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So if I hit that 20k one, you know, it kind of sets the tone forever after.

[A]

You're wild. You're like the Mickey Mace of the sports betting.

[B]

I definitely can't. Can't say that. But yeah, definitely. I mean, I enjoy it. I'm definitely. No professional sports. Better by any means at all. I would never tell anyone to take my picks honestly.

[A]

Yeah, it's a risky game to get into.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I don't even. I mean, I like to gamble. Right. Like I have cards on my forearm. So I mean, it's part of my personality, I guess. I've always done it. But I wouldn't really suggest people to gamble unless like for me, I like to use it for networking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I've met most of my clients or my biggest clients or my closest friends through gambling one way or another really. And that's. I tell. I met Sean Perry gambling.

[A]

So at a casino. Spending.

[B]

Yeah, I was at a casino betting and one of our hosts linked me with one of his friends and his friends linked me with him and it went full circle. So I try to gamble more for the networking than I do like to try to actually win money because I feel like I'm Realistically going to lose long term gambling, especially table games.

[A]

No, that's smart.

[B]

Things like that, you're not going to win long term.

[A]

Might as well get something out of it. Because if you network with someone, then you make money with them, you kind of make your money back.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. That's how I look at it. You know, it's. Maybe it's. I'm a gambler justifying it to some extent. But yeah, obviously that's, that's definitely the way I do it. Every time I'm gambling, if I lose money, I, I hope to meet at least one to three people that I can do business with, make money with, or whether it's six months down the line, do some deal with. That'll end up bringing it back full circle, 100%.

[A]

And the host strategy is smart. Being friends with casino hosts.

[B]

Yeah, I know everyone. Yeah. And the way if you gamble, you know, somewhat often or more than the average person, you should be using stuff from host any like I try to take full advantage of it. Most of my hosts joke with me and laugh about it because I try to abuse it.

[A]

Yeah, they, they be comping.

[B]

Yeah. Hotels, food, you know, cars.

[A]

The wind comes 1.5 mil a month.

[B]

And you know what's crazy win is in my experience, no disrespect to win. They, they don't give me anything.

[A]

Oh really?

[B]

Yeah, I tried once because I like when I think it's a nice vibe. But I usually gamble like Aria or Red Rock mainly. Those are the two casinos that, you know, they treat me well. I have really good relationships with hosts and I love being there overall good vibe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But when I don't really gamble much, I tried to get a once and like they've given me a couple free hotel rooms, but it's not like the same experience as I go to like Ari or Red Rock. That's just my opinion.

[A]

No, I feel that. Cuz I think a lot of ballers go there. So like 10k at the Wind's not.

[B]

I was going to say, yeah, 10 to 50K, 10 to 100K I would say is probably nothing to win versus, you know, the people that are probably getting a jet and wiring in 5 million or have 5 to 10 million on credit. Yeah, the ballers go to win.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah. Wyn has the ballers. Red Rock's more the local vibe. I like Red Rock.

[B]

Yeah, I like Red Rock a lot. Obviously, you know, just being local, being in Summerland, kind of off the strip. They're never going to have like the Same action, like a MGM or Wynn. But Red Rock's a great vibe in our world. Social media and, you know, influencers. Everyone's there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's always a fun time. It's like a party, being in that high limit room.

[A]

Absolutely. If you go after a UFC event, it's electric.

[B]

Yeah, it's my favorite time to go.

[A]

So electric. Dana White's out there. Aiden Ross.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I've seen them gamble. I've been in the same room as I'm gambling. They. They gamble crazy. It's really lose. I've seen both of them win, and I don't think I've ever seen Dana lose. Wow. Yeah. Honestly, I haven't seen Dana gamble often. Maybe like two or three times. But he was winning the times I watched.

[A]

Seems like every time I see him on social media, he wins.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, he's smart about it, though. That's why I feel like there's been videos about, like, the way he gambles. Like, he'll go in, win, and then. And then leave right after.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's typically not the way I gamble. I usually stay in there way too long.

[A]

Yeah, you're drinking too.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm chugging shots. I feel like Dana's very smart about it. I don't even know Dana personally, but just seeing clips of him, the way he gambles, he seems like a real sharp dude. For sure.

[A]

You're casino's dream personality.

[B]

Yes, without a doubt. For sure.

[A]

You drink while you play?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I drink aggressively while I play too. Honestly, it's like sometimes I do sober days and, like, all the bartenders and waitresses will laugh because, like, when they come in, they're like, tequila shots, right? Nope, not this time.

[A]

You know, it's hard to turn down free drinks, though. For real?

[B]

Yeah. And honestly, like. Like I said before when we were starting up, I don't really, like, party at clubs as much or, like, house parties like I used to when I was younger, obviously. But for, like, my type of partying vibe, I would say is more, you know, going to a casino and drinking and, like, gambling. Whatever. I'm comfortable gambling that day. Like, that's more of a party than going and spending money at a club. I used to live in Miami for three years. I did all that, you know, spending a lot of money at clubs. And I think it's stupid now, dude. I. I'd rather be around people I like and meet new people. Like, in a club, it's loud, you're not meeting anyone. You Leave your ears are ringing and you look at your credit card the next day, hungover. Like, why the. Did I do any of that?

[A]

Spend 10k on a table that cost them nothing.

[B]

10, 20, 30, whatever it might be, it's.

[A]

You spent 30 on a table?

[B]

I have in the past, yeah.

[A]

Holy crap. That must have been during like a Super bowl or something.

[B]

Yeah. And there one really degenerate month we had in. In Miami, it was like me and three friends, we spent way too much money across four weekends that live.

[A]

Geez.

[B]

And that was like two or three years ago.

[A]

But was it in the cluster or was it just on a table?

[B]

It was at one or two really large tables together. And it was every weekend.

[A]

Geez.

[B]

So, yeah, I used to, like, walk into live and people would say, like, welcome back, baby boy. Yeah. I was way too well known to live.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

I was like, pasta. Yeah.

[A]

I went through that club phase and like, I don't know, right after college.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm so over it, though.

[B]

You know, it's funny. So I've moved a lot in my life. I grew up in New York. After New York, I went to school in Springfield, Mass. After college, I went to New York City. After New York City, I went to Miami. After Miami, I went to Vegas. Every single time I said, I'm not gonna party the same way I did before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I did exactly what I did before. So that's like I was even in Vegas.

[A]

You're going to the clubs here?

[B]

No, not clubs now. Like, I'll drink while I'm gambling. You know, more of that type setting. But in the idea of, like, I'm not going to drink a lot, I'm going to get healthy, I'm going to lift. Like, I'm going to do three months sober, and then it never happens.

[A]

So I think the people you're around, you know.

[B]

Yeah. You are who you surround yourself with. I could definitely agree with that.

[A]

Yeah. You got some degenerates around you, man.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, you know, doing business in the gambling world and enjoying it and obviously enjoying drinking, I feel like that's my personality. I'm very extroverted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like to party. Like to have fun. Like to have fun for everyone else, too.

[A]

You're only young ones, man. It.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe I'll grow up one day.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think you'll die with any regrets.

[B]

No. Definitely not.

[A]

For sure. That's what I respect about you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, some people just. They're so plain. I don't know how to Describe it. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I. I couldn't see myself ever living that way. Honestly, I. I like to do it. I've always said this. I like to do whatever I want, whenever I want.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I always try to live my life up to that standard. And if I can't, then I have to work harder at whatever I'm doing to be able to do it.

[A]

Would you say you're an adrenaline junkie?

[B]

Yeah, I would say that, yeah. For sure. You like the thrill? I like the thrill, yeah. And I like doing adventurous stuff. I love cliff jumping. I love, you know, skydiving.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Stuff like that. So, yeah, I would say I'm an adrenaline junkie. Not to the point where I'll go out of my way to do a bunch of stuff, but, like, if it. If the opportunity presents itself. Yeah, I'm there.

[A]

You'll be sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's the highest cliff you've jumped off of?

[B]

Probably like 50ft.

[A]

That's fudgeing high. I've done 40 and I was shitting.

[B]

Yeah. 40 is kind of crazy. They're high. It was only because I'm kind of sketched out about it too, in a way. Right. Like, if it's. There's a place in my hometown where there's like 50 foot cliffs and buildings and it's like a quarry, but the water is pitch, like perfect blue.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, you can take a GoPro down there 20ft under and see yourself and film yourself, like, jumping into that. Like, I'm comfortable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When I was younger and stupid, I would jump into like, crazy cliffs with like, black water. You don't know what the hell's underneath. You don't know if you're hitting a crane underneath. Like more scary stuff, you know, it is risky.

[A]

The risk to reward on cliff jumping doesn't really seem there.

[B]

Yeah. That's why it's got to be the right setting. But I love doing it, for sure. It's like a fun hobby.

[A]

I've seen someone do 80.

[B]

I know people that have done 80 into 11ft at the bottom at like Fawn's Leap in New York, I think.

[A]

Definitely hit the bottom.

[B]

Maybe it's 60. Yeah. You do. Like, when you land, you have to kind of curve your body.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's always really sketchy and it's like, it might not be 80, might be like 60. But you have to like climb like there's a cliff and you have to climb a tree all the way up.

[A]

What?

[B]

And yeah, when I watch People do it. I'm like, that's too psychotic for me. Like, I would never do that.

[A]

That's next level. Skydiving is pretty crazy, though.

[B]

I love skydiving.

[A]

I haven't done it yet.

[B]

Really? You definitely have to.

[A]

I want to.

[B]

Skydiving is. It's really. It's a crazy experience. It happens so fast. The. The stomach drop in your stomach is something like a roller coaster. Can't give it to you. It's way crazy.

[A]

That bad?

[B]

Yeah. It's awesome, though. And, like, your face is like, you know, wind's pushing against it, so it's fun, though. I always joked when I was younger saying, like, I'd love to wake up every day and jump out of a plane, like, get my skydiving license. And that was, like, three years ago, and I never did it. But I've skydived probably, like, four or five times in my life, and if someone ever asked me to do it, I'd be like, yeah, yeah. So next time I go to Dubai, I definitely want to skydive.

[A]

I'll definitely take you up on that offer. Don't you need, like, a thousand jumps to get your license?

[B]

I think it's something like that. Maybe it's less. Honestly, I don't think it's crazy. Apparently, skydiving is more safe than driving a car.

[A]

No.

[B]

Which I guess statistically makes sense, right? There's people driving cars everywhere, and there's less accidents and skydiving than there is cars.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, apparently that's a stat. I don't know how true it is or not.

[A]

I also heard flying safer than driving cars.

[B]

That I could believe, too.

[A]

I could see there's not many plane crashes.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, there's definitely not. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. There's a lot of.

[B]

It's the same idea, though, statistically. Right? Like, planes versus cars. Every person has a car. Everyone's driving to get everywhere.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We both had to drive here to get here today. You know, first, we're not flying here, which would be crazy if we could.

[A]

I'm looking into a driver right now.

[B]

Dude, really? I think you should.

[A]

I study all these top entrepreneurs, and a lot of them have drivers.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it makes sense if you're busy and you're doing stuff on your phone. Like, that makes sense to me. That's a good, like, positive ROI investment. Because, you know, if you're being driven and you're making money or, you know, doing your business while you're being driven, why drive versus even risking using your phone while you're driving 100%. I wish I had a driver. I was going to do that when I lived in Miami. Just never really pulled the trigger.

[A]

Would be great for it because all the traffic.

[B]

Yeah, like a sprinter van. Like, I think, like, if you need like a sprinter, like a dope ass, like Maybach or.

[A]

Yeah, you know, Miami style, too.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. One of those cities, I'd say Miami and Vegas, too. There's a lot of nice cars out here, too. Not like Miami, where, like every Lambo you see, you're wondering if it's rented or not.

[A]

Yeah, out here they're more scarce, I'd say.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Yeah. You big on cars?

[B]

Yeah, I like cars a lot. I'm big on anything that, like, you do every day. So, like, I'll spend a lot of money on a car. I'll spend a lot of money on my mattress or my pillow. Like, anything I'm doing every day that affects my life, I definitely love. And I. I do love cars.

[A]

Yeah, dude, I agree on the mattress. I used to cheap out on those.

[B]

Oh, no, I couldn't. I couldn't.

[A]

I just spent 4k on a mattress.

[B]

No way. I think the most I spent on a mattress was 7K. And I financed it in Miami and I ended up moving six months later. And I left the mattress because I was hurt. I tore through ligaments in my foot. I had no one to help me move, and I was just like, you know what? Fudge everything. Like, I'm leaving whatever's here, I'm just taking the loss.

[A]

Whoever scored, that is.

[B]

Yeah. I was so pissed. Yeah.

[A]

I bought a eight sleep. Have you heard those? No, it tracks everything.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I used it.

[B]

So you have, like, a smart mattress?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[A]

Used it for the first time last night. Dude, it freaking tracks how long you snore.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I snored for eight minutes. It tracks how long you're in deep sleep.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Tracks the temperature of your body. It's nuts.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I don't sleep well. I feel like. Just in general, I feel like I've. Like my brain is so adhd, like the second I think of something or I'll try not to even get up and go to the bathroom in the middle of the night because if I do, my brain will just activate and then I can't go back to sleep. I'll toss and turn. I'll sit on my phone. I'll end up starting to work at 5 or 6am or 4am just because it's like I Can't go back to sleep.

[A]

You're just constantly.

[B]

Yeah. And then I feel like my lack of sleep by doing that over time, eventually I'll snore the whole time. So I'd rather not have a mattress that tracks that because it'd probably be pretty embarrassing to see stats.

[A]

Dude, I used to think like that too. Like, I could not sleep at night. I realized I had still physically tired my body out during the day.

[B]

Yeah, I literally. I feel like I can't. I used to, like, smoke weed to go to sleep, and I used to tell myself I had to, and I got away from that. I was like, I'm gonna do a self experiment myself. That's not true. It's just, like, a belief that I made myself believe in. And now. Now I don't need to smoke to go to sleep, but I still don't sleep well, so it doesn't make a difference, you know?

[A]

Yeah. I will say sleep has definitely optimized my life because I used to skip out on sleep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Four or five hours a day.

[B]

Something I feel like would help my life greatly if I got more.

[A]

Oh, it would.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You'd be a new person.

[B]

And I feel like that's, like, proven already. I feel like that's just science, you know, as humans.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm sure you see a huge difference, right?

[A]

No, for sure. How much attention do you pay to health?

[B]

It goes in waves. There's times where I really lock in. I focus on everything. I focus on my diet, I focus on lifting, but not enough. I mean, you know, whole first conversation, we're talking about drinking and farting.

[A]

Bailed a lot on our basketball invites.

[B]

Yeah, I have. I've. Yeah, that's true. It's kind of embarrassing. And I actually love basketball, too, so. I used to love it a lot more. I hurt my foot two years ago snowboarding, and it's never been the same since. And that's kind of why I bail on it, too, when I play basketball. Like, I played for the first time since playing with you months ago. Yeah. Like, three days ago. And after, like, five runs, like, I was, like, limping up the court, I was like, yeah, I'm nervous to play basketball. I'm nervous to snowboard. And speaking of not caring about health, like, I probably should have done more pt. I probably still should do pt. The injury was two years ago, so.

[A]

What was the injury?

[B]

I tore three full ligaments in my left foot snowboarding on the last run.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

Yeah, it was really brutal, bro. I was in crutches for six months. I didn't need surgery, but that was. I'm someone that's, like, very happy at all times. Like, I have a tattoo of a smiley face on myself for that reason. Like, generally, I'm pretty happy. I don't let things that I can't control bother me. That was, like, the most depressed I've been in my entire life. Probably.

[A]

That injury.

[B]

Yeah, that injury. Because, like, it was, like, six months of. I had to move out of my building. I lived in the epic building in Miami on, like, the little townhouses.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I had to crutch. It took me probably 30 minutes to crutch to my house and back. What? I had stairs in my crutches. Yeah. Because it was so far away. I had stairs in my house, so I'm on crutches. I couldn't. I wasn't even sleeping upstairs in my bed.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

And I was just so frustrated, dude. Like, especially in Miami heat, like, to get down from my house to go to wherever I have to go, I would crutch. I'd be sweating my ass off. And then I have to go stand outside and sweat more. And I'll never forget one time I was, like, CRUTCHING to my McLaren.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, you know, the crutches barely fit in the McLaren.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Like, trying to do everything I can to get them in there. I have the window down. Like, they're hanging out the window. And the whole spurs basketball team was pulling up to the hotel because, like, where I live was, like, a hotel and residency, and every spurs basketball player just had their phone out, just laughing at me, filming. I was like, yeah, I get it. Right. I'm struggling.

[A]

That's rough.

[B]

It was funny, though.

[A]

You're making me not want to go snowboard snowboarding ever.

[B]

Snowboarding was probably my favorite thing that I've ever done in my life. Like, that's, like, my happy place.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Talk about adrenaline junkie. I go down the mountain as fast as I can with my knees bent. Literally pure. Just vertical, straight down, as fast as possible.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

I don't do park. I don't try to do jumps. I literally just go straight down.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

And, yeah, it's. Honestly, missing in the last two years is like, that's. It's sad.

[A]

So you hit a bump and you just went flying.

[B]

And then so with a bunch of people that don't regularly snowboard, and I hate doing that, honestly, I try to avoid that, but it was a big group of people. Not even. It's like everyone's going so slow, you know, they need your help. Like when I. Like I said, I like to go down the mountain full speed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When you're with someone, it's like you're either going to leave them at the top of the mountain, and then they're panicking. And, you know, I'm big on. People should get lessons if they snowboard or ski. Like, get lessons so you can do it yourself without, you know, bothering someone. That is really good. But. So we were with this big group of people the whole time. I was going so slow the last two runs. Finally, everyone went in. Me and my friend Chris were like, screw it. Let's just full vertical down the full mountain. Like, let's get, you know what we want out of this. Did it the first time. It was dark. It was icy. We couldn't see well. First one was really sketchy. We did it fine. And then we were like, screw it. Let's do one more. And that second one, like, I took. It was the worst fall ever. Like, I. I probably toppled 50ft down the mountain, just tumbling over and over and over again.

[A]

Holy. You couldn't see what was in front of you.

[B]

I just. I clipped a little piece of ice while I was probably going, like, 50 miles an hour, literally. I toppled so far down that mountain, and the way it ended was, like, my feet just clapped straight downward.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So, like, that's, like, what hurt. I don't even know how I didn't break both feet, but just my left foot. Like, I knew it right away. Like, right away. I was like, my foot's broken. Like, call someone.

[A]

Like, my foot's broken for sure, and it's so cold. You didn't feel the pain, right?

[B]

I felt. I didn't feel it immediately, but I knew it. Like, I do really well with pain, too. I broke my arm snowboarding in the past, too, and it was the same thing. Like, someone came and helped me. I was like, my arm's broken. Like, very calm. And they're like, like, are you sure? Is there anything else wrong? I was like, bro, my arm's broken.

[A]

That's nuts.

[B]

They're, like, checking me for concussions. I was like, my arm is broken. So with pain, I do really well with it. So, like, I knew for sure. Yeah, but it wasn't, like, excruciating. I wasn't, like, screaming or crying. I was more just sitting there like, damn, bro, I really just broke my foot. I was just thinking about the crutches, bro. I hate crutches.

[A]

I hate crutches. They need to invent something better.

[B]

Yeah. Thank God it wasn't both feet. It could have been in the wheelchair.

[A]

I've been in a wheelchair.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I tore my glute in track and field.

[B]

No way. How long were you in a wheelchair for?

[A]

A week in high school, so people had to push me around to class. Embarrassing.

[B]

Probably got out of class, like, 10 minutes earlier.

[A]

Yeah, that was lit, but, no, it's embarrassing, dude.

[B]

Yeah, that's like. I wouldn't be embarrassed by it, but it sucks. It's like. That's like a real struggle. You need constant aid and help from people.

[A]

Yeah, well, here's why it was embarrassing. I tore my glue in the race, so people were running over me in the last 50 meters. And in track and field, you don't wear underwear.

[B]

No way.

[A]

So you can see my dick and balls? Pretty much.

[B]

Oh, my God. I need to see a clip.

[A]

Yeah, I'm on the floor. Like, they're lifting my leg up.

[B]

No way. I don't even mean to laugh. That's actually bad.

[A]

It's whatever. Like, it happened.

[B]

Damn. Well, at least it was in high school, not, like, now.

[A]

A lot of trauma from high school, dude.

[B]

Really? Yeah, that's real trauma.

[A]

No, I got bullied, bro. Where did you fit in on the high school?

[B]

I fit in on very similar to, like, I guess now, like, I know I knew everybody. I was, you know, very extroverted. I partied a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you play sports? Yeah. I mean, I don't, like, call myself a cool kid, but, yeah, I knew everybody. I had good relationships with everybody.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't really get bullied, and I didn't bully people either. Like, I. I never. Yeah, I would never bully anyone. I tried to keep friends with everybody, whether they were different than me or not.

[A]

Yeah. You never know how people are gonna end up. Yeah.

[B]

Now I bet all your high school bullies watch you.

[A]

Oh, no, they do.

[B]

Wish I was friends with Sean.

[A]

No, you never know where people end up. One of my classmates is an Olympic gold medalist now.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Super nuts.

[B]

Yeah. That's insane.

[A]

I know you're super tight with Bryce Hall. How'd you meet him?

[B]

Yeah, Bryce is a really good friend. We met gambling, actually. We were sitting next to each other at a table, literally just taking shots and gambling. And Bryce ordered. Bryce has a very similar personality to me, and he just ordered, like, seven shots for the table, thinking everyone would take them. Everyone just declined. At this point, we didn't know each other at all. Yeah, we're just, like, chopping it up, talking here and there, whatever. You know, gambling. We're winning, so we're like, you know, exciting, dabbing each other up, whatever. And, like, everyone was like, yo, I'm not taking these shots. We had seven chilled tequila shots in front of us. Me and Bryce just looked at him. I was like, bro, I'll take all of them with you. Like, let's just. Let's do every time. Whether we win or lose, let's just take it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So mine. Bryce's friendship purely started from drinking and gambling, I'd say. And we both won in the session, which I feel, like, helped, like, energy was good.

[A]

Definitely helped.

[B]

You know, both drinking. You know, it was fun.

[A]

When you win with someone, it's. It's a bond. Like, I'll be gambling automatic. People don't know who they are. But if we win.

[B]

Yeah, if you win, it's automatic. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of what me and Bryce did. You know, Obviously, I knew who Bryce was at that point. He didn't know me, but it. Yeah, it was. It clicked pretty instantly. We have very similar personalities, and we won the session. We were drinking a lot. I think the way me and Bryce formed our friendship after that day, we did the same exact thing, like, another eight days in a row.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Just like, let's take shots. Yeah, let's take shots and play blackjack. We kept winning, which is not normal, obviously.

[A]

No.

[B]

You know, but that made it, like, easy to keep saying yeah for both of us. Like, if one night I didn't want to and he did, like, I'd be like, nah, come on. And then be vice versa. So we just ended up, like, pressuring each other to gamble and drink until we both, like, had enough of that, you know? Now we'll both still do it, obviously, but it's not the same versus, like, that first week we were. We were here at Aria Red Rock every single day, just blackjack. Wiping them off, shots. Yeah, we're doing really well. Everyone just kept winning, and it's like, Martingale. No, not even. I don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't believe that. I feel like if you have unlimited money, maybe.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, if you have enough, but, like, if you come with a budget or a bankroll and you know that, like, you don't want to go cash advance or your cash advance is already full because you already did it. That's like, when you. I don't. I don't really believe in that. I like to play kind of the same blackjack. And then I do what's called blackjack fire. One of my friends made it up. And it's like a. It's a non written rule in blackjack that we fully believe. Like I will do it every single time.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I'll play the same bet every single time. And the second that I hit a blackjack, that next hand we call it, we just fire. Like if I'm betting a thousand a hand on blackjack, that, that hand after Blackjack, I'm betting 5 or 10k. Really? Yeah. Like I'll just fire.

[A]

You believe in like momentum then kind.

[B]

Of like if we joke about it and call it blackjack fire. Everyone knows the rules.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's what we always say when we do it. And it's. It'll either completely destroy a session or if you hit two of them in a row, you're up so much you can leave the table.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So it's like all depends on how lucky you are. That hand after blackjack that decides if I win or lose. Yeah.

[A]

I feel like a good blackjack session comes down to like a couple hands.

[B]

Yeah. Like a double on a split or something like that. Yeah. That one time you decide to get ignorant and put more money on it and then you have the double and split.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

It's always. I feel like it's universe shade. It always just happens.

[A]

You split often?

[B]

Every time I get a chance to. And then depending on the shoe too. Like I'll split things. I'm not supposed to just kind of mess the deck up or.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I'll only play double deck blackjack too. I refuse to play 6x or 8x. Like if it's not double deck, I will not sit down.

[A]

Do you. Do you notice you win more with the double decks?

[B]

Yeah, I don't like six deck unless there's like a match the dealer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is the only way I would do it. But yeah. Double deck, strictly usually.

[A]

Is it because you just lose track of what's coming out?

[B]

Yeah. Also, I don't even try. Like, I'm relatively bad at math. I think about that with everybody. I'm not even gonna sit there and try to count cards.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You can just tell the way I play. I'm certainly not counting.

[A]

It seems too fast to really count, honestly.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like you need to have the brain for it. There's definitely people that can. Like, I know people that can count cards.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There was one time I got dealt and a dealer said ace when I wasn't Gonna hit. And he said, ace. And I was like, what do you mean? And I was like, that was weird. And I hit and it was an ace. Next. I was like, are you counting? It was crazy. I think the dealer was literally counting his own deck.

[A]

They probably get taught how to count. Honestly. Honestly. Because then they could spot it.

[B]

Then they can spot it. I feel like it's easy to spot, though. If you see someone, like, betting really low and then out of nowhere bet really big and. Yeah, I feel like that's how you can get banned from a casino super easily.

[A]

Have you ever seen a counter on one of your tables?

[B]

Yes. I actually recently watched someone get banned four counting. Yeah. But he was being really ignorant about it. Like he was doing, you know, fluctuations of numbers. And he was also, like, kind of talking about it. And that's dumb. Yeah, he got. He got exited pretty quick.

[A]

Yeah, he just drew attention to himself.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think he realized that he'd get banned and he wasn't making that much money. He was playing kind of small, but super dumb. Just. Yeah, it was a really stupid way to not be allowed to get banned.

[A]

There's only like three casino groups.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And when you get banned, if it's a place you like, then it's generally.

[A]

You'Re banned from like, five other casinos.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Mgm, Caesars, and who owns Red Rock?

[B]

It's like stations.

[A]

Stations, yeah. Those are like the big three.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So if you get banned from one of those, you're. You're wiped.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And that sucks, you know, like, going there or not.

[A]

Yeah. Have you seen Mickey Mace gamble in Vegas ever?

[B]

So I've never personally gambled with him. I spent the super bowl with him this year, actually. Really humble dude. That's one thing I could say about him. Just meeting him for the first time, you know, seeing all of his clips on the Internet, you're not sure, like, who he'd be like, when you meet him. Yeah, that guy is a real celebrity in a casino. And he's really cool. He stops everywhere. He'll take pictures with fans. That's what Bryce does, too. That's what I really liked about Bryce right away, seeing how humble he was. Like, you walk around a mall with Bryce, a million people are stopping him. That's making a casino. So I've seen him one time. He won one of my friends 180k in like a 40 minute session. But I've never gambled back around or.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's the game, man.

[B]

Yeah. And I. I'VE never gambled him personally, but just, you know, spent the super bowl with him watching it and then watching him win, my friend, 180k afterward.

[A]

That's nuts. What did he start with to win the 180?

[B]

I think he started with 50, I want to say. Wow. Yeah.

[A]

Almost four hours.

[B]

It was either 50 or 100. I got there late. I was like, kind of. I was doing other things. I was on my phone working and stuff. So I wasn't, like, fully attentive watching it, but I was kind of just watching from a glance. And I watched them celebrate, you know, screaming, dapping each other up. Yeah, it was cool to watch.

[A]

That's fire. Why do you think Asians are so good at baccarat?

[B]

You know what's crazy? I don't know. I don't know. But I also know they love baccarat.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Like, that's like. I think that's the only Asian game. I could be wrong. But bakara, the actual rules are in Asian.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Like, yeah. Like, if you ever get the little pamphlet that they give you baccarat, like, it's Asian at the top.

[A]

I didn't know that.

[B]

Yeah. And then. Yeah. I don't know why they're so good. Do you know?

[A]

But every time I go to a casino and see the baccarat, it's like 80% Asian.

[B]

Yes, it is always 80% Asian. And what I've noticed about baccarat is like, I feel like it's not that popular in the gambling world. It's always like in the way back of a casino.

[A]

Yeah, they hide it because it's the best odds.

[B]

The best odds. And, you know, I feel like if you have big money, it's the best way to make a lot of money. Maybe that's why Asians like it. Or wealthy Asians, because, you know, it's the best odds there. They're smart. They're not playing blackjack with negative edge. And baccarat's kind of a 50. 50. You catch four in a row at 50k a hand. You're up to under K. Yeah.

[A]

You go up quick. They didn't have it on the cruise I was just on. I was bummed.

[B]

No way. Yeah.

[A]

I went on a virgin.

[B]

They probably had a lot of slots. Just taking everyone's money.

[A]

Triple zero over let, though.

[B]

Oh, my God. Of course. I'm surprised it wasn't five zeros.

[A]

Yeah, they keep adding zeros.

[B]

You know, it's funny. Every casino offers cruises. I think that's the funniest Thing because they know that you'll just go and probably gamble 90 of the time you're in that and you'll lose. I'm sure they have a partnership for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Literally every cruise has a partnership with a casino.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So that's one thing I've always noticed is casinos every year trying to get me to go on cruises.

[A]

Oh, yeah. They probably offer you them for free, right?

[B]

Yeah, I think I'll do it this year. Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna do the Carnival one or the.

[B]

I don't even know what they are. I keep slacking on actually going to get the pamphlet of all the different lists.

[A]

Usually it's Carnival, I think.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm gonna go. I'll tell you in, like, 48 hours. Because I've been saying I'm gonna go, and I haven't.

[A]

Yeah. Do you even play roulette?

[B]

Oh, I love roulette. That's actually my favorite.

[A]

That's like the worst odds.

[B]

Yeah. The way I play is really, really sick. Honestly, it's a problem.

[A]

Do you have a strategy or.

[B]

Yeah, I do. It's kind of hard to explain. I just play the second digit of whatever the numbers are and repeating. So, like, say five is on the board. I'm going to play 5, 25, 15, 35. And if there's like, obviously you see, like, I don't know, like, 20 numbers, so I'll just take that second digit. So if it's like 25 and 14, I'll play all the zeros, all the fives, and all the four. So 14 for 24, 15, 5, 25. And that's, like, how I play.

[A]

So you've noticed those last digits repeat sometimes.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like they always do one way or another. Obviously, roulette, like you said, the way I play is, like, only, like, big numbers inside.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I either lose aggressively really fast or I win aggressively really fast. And then I've actually used Siri, too. I can't take credit for it. I watched one of my friends do it first.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He was asking Siri, 1, 2, 3, or 4. And that was, like, for the outside, like, even, odd, red or black. So that was the four. And whatever Siri would say, he would do. And I always play inside. So I was like, hold on. Let's make this way more exciting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, cut 36 out. Because I don't. I don't ever play 36. So I'll say, hey, Siri, pick a number one to 35. And I. The first time I did It. I hit for, like, 70,000.

[A]

What?

[B]

And then the second time I did it, I hit for, like, 105,000, dude. And series legitimately made me more money gambling than I had myself.

[A]

That's actually nuts. You were betting, like, 2k.

[B]

Yeah, like 1k number.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

To hit. So if it hits a 35k, dude, that's nuts. And there was one time, it was actually on a streamer, a vlog, too, of, like, me showing someone doing it. And I picked a number with Siri, and then I had them do it, and it hit. It was. It was TFU's vlog. Wow. Yeah, I think I saw that hit 3 for 35k. Because I was like. And I was. I was really drunk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, mumbling to him. I'm like, just. Just tell Siri. And he does it. And it hits. And I was like, see? Siri's incredible, dude.

[A]

I remember that video because didn't Bryce hall get in a beef with someone?

[B]

Yeah, I think so. I think. I think it was that day. It might have been different day. I'm not sure. But, yeah, that. That whole beef was like. I was sitting. I was at that table when it happened. I was confused about that beef. I didn't really fully understand it.

[A]

Bryce was just losing and getting tilted.

[B]

Yeah, he was tilted for sure. But also, like, he. He was kind of taking jabs for no reason. He was trolling. And then I found out after we didn't know who he was. Like, he loves to troll, so I think he just trolled the wrong person at the right time. But, I mean, I've gambled a lot with Bryce. Like, Bryce is very humble and very chill. So, I mean, that day, obviously, it was just, you know, more tilted and didn't like being trolled.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which I could understand if that was me. I probably would have a very similar.

[A]

Reaction if you're down bad and someone's making comments.

[B]

I usually don't threaten to hit people because I can't fight. You know, I probably get my ass beat if I said that. But just in general. Yeah. I feel like that's not really who Bryce is at all. I feel like the Internet took it that way just because that's what the Internet does.

[A]

They love to shit on him. One thing about Bryce is. I don't know how he fucking. He deals with all that hate. Like, it's impressive to me.

[B]

I think he's great at it.

[A]

It's.

[B]

He's great at it. He doubles down into it, and he's really loved by a lot of people, too, from what I've seen just, you know, over the last seven months, he's loved by way more people than he has hated. At least what I think, in my opinion. Yeah, I just think the Internet runs with anything that gets views as, you know, and being in our world, that's. That's how the Internet works. You know, people do anything to get views.

[A]

Also, the haters won't come up to you in person.

[B]

No, absolutely not. Like, the haters are usually the way I look at a hater online. It's like somebody that's already beneath you and they have nothing else really going for them, per se. And they're usually, you know, below you in some way, shape or form. It's easier just to go type a hateful message. Yeah, I tell a lot of my clients that too. Right. When I do, like, mass media stuff or I'm making people viral in different ways, do the different things I do, like, they'll be like, but there's hate comments. I'm like, that's gonna happen.

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

What do you think celebrities deal with?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, Bryce, any celebrity, they all deal with that. Because when you have mass Internet people all looking at you at the same time, there's going to be people that, you know, aren't comfortable their own lives and they will just go type whatever they want, you know, so it's honestly.

[A]

A good sign for me, though.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I tell people the more people comment, the more it's going to go viral. So, like, let them keep commenting. I actually, right before I walked in here, just sent that to somebody.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They said, hey, do you think we could switch this post? Because I don't really love the comments on it. I said, bro, I hope there's a thousand more comments on it. It means more people are going to reach you. And the ones that are smart enough to actually click your page and like your content, you're going to get more followers. I'd rather that post reach 5 million people than 1. I don't care about the hateful comments. I care about who goes to your page afterwards.

[A]

Yeah. You know, if you see any viral video and you look at the comment, doesn't even matter what platform it's on, there's hate.

[B]

There has to be. That's what makes videos go viral. You know, it's sharing it, it's commenting on it. That's like how algorithms work. They're looking for engagement. So if you don't have engagement, obviously, you know, I'd rather have hate And I'd rather have hate and love than. Than no love. You know, that's how you grow.

[A]

You won't go viral.

[B]

Yeah. It's like you got going viral. How do you build a brand without, like building an actual audience?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. My advice to content creators coming in is you're going to get hate. Just learn how to cope with it.

[B]

My advice to content creators, same thing. You're going to get hate. Hate's good. Learn to double down on it and, and definitely run with it. You know, like, you can't be mad, you can't be someone on the Internet and then care what people think. Right. That's the whole point of being on the Internet. It's like you're doing it because you don't already care. You're doing it for whatever your vision is or your goal. And if you can't deal with haters on the Internet's probably not for you. Yeah.

[A]

As long as you're literally being yourself. Like, yeah.

[B]

What you believe in too. Yeah. Like literally they're helping your algorithm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Haters literally drive an algorithm, make things go viral. So I encourage it.

[A]

Bryce is going all in on Trump too, which is dope.

[B]

Yeah. And I love it. Obviously, you know, I'm a supporter of Trump too, and I definitely, you know, I think it's good someone like Bryce who has an audience in 20 to 24 year olds in that area. I'm glad he's going on.

[A]

Yeah. And I know he hates being called the Tiktoker, but he was like the first major.

[B]

Like, I love joking, calling him a Tiktoker, but yeah, obviously I think Bryce is really good at his audience. He's really good at the Internet. He's been doing his whole life. So I think it's good that he's using his platform for always things he believes in. You know, he always liked to fight when he was younger too. Now he's fighting professionally.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think that's cool.

[A]

Would you ever fight for money?

[B]

No.

[A]

Even a million dollars?

[B]

One million dollars if I thought I had a chance. If it's against like a fighter, like.

[A]

That Derek kid from Jake Paul's better company.

[B]

Derek, I'd fight you right now. I'd probably fight Derek for free because he's skinny. I actually think I called Derek out on a video. I'm friends with Derek. I'm friends, all the better guys. I'm close with all of them. I like all of them. Good dudes, good group of people. I love what they're doing. I Think I actually on camera did say, derek, I'd fight you for free. So this will be the second time. Derek, I will fight you for calling you out, man.

[A]

I will say he's more athletic than I thought.

[B]

Yeah. And he kind of like trains and shit. I feel like he'd be still do it.

[A]

You know, he trains. He ran half a mile in 2 minutes, 8 seconds.

[B]

Yeah, he definitely, he looks like a.

[A]

Track star, which is insane for sure.

[B]

He looks like a runner. I wouldn't, I wouldn't put that past him.

[A]

Yeah, that's a 415 mile pace.

[B]

So in the last video I saw him fighting too. He definitely, he's got it, you know, he's definitely right. I think there was like a clip. I don't know if it was like an actual fight, like in a ring. I think they were like just like had gloves on.

[A]

Yeah. Parking lot outdoors. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But yeah, I saw like one clip of that. I think he got like one good punch on Steiny. I don't think I even saw the full clip of it.

[A]

No. I don't know how it went, but Shout out to Derek, man. He talks, his talking. At least he backs it up though.

[B]

I love that. Talking about like content creators and like doing whatever, not caring about hate. I feel like Derek's like a perfect example of that.

[A]

You know, he learned it from Jake, I bet.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure. And I think he's smart. You know, I feel like he gets a lot of views and people either love him or hate him and either way they still follow him. That's like the nature of being a content creator. People love you or hate you, they still follow you. You're doing your job.

[A]

You can funnel the hate into success to 100%. Just built a nine figure brand in two months.

[B]

Exactly. And he used to get the most.

[A]

Hate of you can.

[B]

I feel like when you're building a brand, an audience too, you can always pivot right. You can always like change what you're doing. You can always rebrand, especially when you're young. Like I feel like there's tons of examples of people that have done that very, very well over the years. Like you can just rebrand, you know, you take your audience and go into something else that you believe in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think as long as, like you said, it's what you believe in and you don't care about the hate, it's like you can always turn it into success.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

And I always like to make like people that hate. I try to kill them with Kindness after, you know, you kill someone. Yeah, exactly. Like they're. They're doing because they want a reaction. So when your actions, like, oh, it's all good, man. Love you anyway, people like, wait, what? Why are you being nice to me? And I want to hate you, and then you don't give them a reason to hate you. And it's like, it with them, it messes them up. Yeah. It's fun.

[A]

Yeah. How do you spend all the money you win when you gamble?

[B]

I mean, honestly, I usually try to keep a bankroll to gamble more, depending on, like, what we're talking about parlays. Like, I'll try to keep it up and spin it up. But one of my friends two years ago, he always said, like, why don't you buy something? Like, you're an idiot. I know the way you gamble, like, you'll just keep doubling up. You get drunk. Like, you'll lose all your money in a night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now on, if I go up big in a night, I give half the money to my friends right away. And I like to buy watches. Like, I'll take half the profit and just. I'll buy. That's like the thing I've been doing recently. I just buy watches.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I really like doing that because the value is good right now. The market's down. I really like watches just as much as I do cars. So, like, right now I'm wearing an AP, you know, like, I like to buy, like, nice APs or Rolexes any chance I get from. From a big win on something this way, it's like, even if I do lose after, it's like I still have.

[A]

The AP of something to show.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Watches are good for networking too.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. I. It's part of the first reason I started buying watches, because the only people that know watches well are usually people success or, you know, my typical client, I would say. So, yeah. Watches like a good bonding experience, good networking, and I really like them. I used to wear a lot of diamonds and stuff. I don't really wear a lot of diamonds or jewelry anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, I'll do very minimal on my wrist, like a watch, and then maybe like a bracelet or two. But that's. That's really it for me in terms of jewelry now. Absolutely.

[A]

You think you're gonna stick in Vegas for a bit? I know you move a lot.

[B]

Yeah. Honestly, I think this. I stayed in Miami for three years. I don't know if I'll get to Vegas for three years. I'm Already, like I kind of want another spot in Miami. So I'm already looking now.

[A]

You want to go back?

[B]

I don't want to go back full time. I think I'll always have something to do here. Just the nature of like, you know, networking, the, the area I'm in, the people I'm around and then just the businesses I'm involved in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I feel like part of me will always be here, but I don't want to like live my whole life here. Same like I'd love to have a house here and a house in Miami eventually spend more time in Miami than Vegas. But for now, like I could see myself at least the next full 12 months from now being in Vegas. And I've been here for like seven months.

[A]

I'm the same dude. I want a spot on the East Coast. West coast, yeah.

[B]

Perfect world. I'd like Dallas, New York, L.A. vegas. Miami, damn. Yeah, like that. No, like that's where I'd want to have like my homes across anything I do like more long term plan one center to just one of kind of my five favorite places to be in the country. But like right now, Vegas, Miami, I would say like that's where I want to be back and forth. But Vegas more full time than Miami.

[A]

Where's number one for you?

[B]

If you had to pick right now? Vegas. That could change. But like I could see, I mean next year I might say Miami. Okay, yeah, Florida. I'd say Florida or Vegas. Sure.

[A]

Vegas is a hot take. I don't hear many people say that's number one.

[B]

Just right now I feel like I'm different than most people, you know, like for what I do with work and what I'm doing in the sports betting world and just like marketing and gambling world. I think being here is better for networking and better for business. I think that I can build that for a year right now. And that's why I say right now. Because I could build that for a year and then I could leave. That's what I did in Miami kind of. You know, I met everyone I had to. I made money with everyone I had to. I built an incredible network and relationships with everybody. I still do a ton with people in Miami. I don't have to be in Miami to do that anymore versus here. I feel like I'm still networking, I'm still meeting people. It's someone new every day or every event and then you know, when that network's built and you know, I, I've done a lot of business from it. That's When I'd be like, all right, well, I don't really need to be here anymore. I already kind of solidified what I do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then I'd probably be happy going back to Florida.

[A]

Got it. Any goals that you haven't accomplished yet here? Just in general?

[B]

Yeah, definitely. For sure.

[A]

Financial.

[B]

Financial. I want to own a jet.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's definitely a goal.

[A]

Doable.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I. I feel like it's definitely doable.

[A]

Steve will do it. Just bought one. Vegas Matt, I think just bought one.

[B]

I heard that. Yeah. I didn't know. I haven't seen her. Talk to Vegas Matt in a little bit. I'll probably see him this weekend, I'm sure.

[A]

Tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely see him tomorrow, for sure. But I would say that's probably the biggest financial goal. I'd love to. Whether it's equity with friends or I'd like to own a jet where I'm not spending ridiculous amounts of money on jets.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or not really having to worry about flying where it's like, I know there's a jet in the hangar, and wherever I'm going, the jets going like that be. That'd be the best financial goal for me.

[A]

Yeah. It's hard to think of a better purchase than a jet.

[B]

Right. And that obviously means, like, you know, to buy a jet comfortably, Being able to afford what it costs monthly. That's at least in my head, I guess, like, 100 million. So I guess that's a financial goal. 100 million.

[A]

Split it with, like, four people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Surprise. Actually.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. It's way better that way. And then maintenance isn't that bad either.

[A]

Maintenance. And if you're chartering it.

[B]

Yeah, chartering kind of pays it back, too.

[A]

Yeah. Kind of offsets it, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, when I'm ready, I'll hit you up.

[B]

Yeah, we can. I'd love to make that our goal.

[A]

We'll probably need, like, 5 mil liquid, at least.

[B]

Least, yeah. Yeah. And that's doable, too. You think 5 mil gets, like, a nice jet?

[A]

Not a nice one.

[B]

I haven't looked into them all that often right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I should start, though.

[A]

No, if you're talking nice, then, yeah, probably tens of millions.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I don't need anything crazy. I'd say it has to have, like, six seats, right. If we're gonna want to take friends places. At least six.

[A]

Like, if it's only four, it's kind of tight.

[B]

Four is tight. And then, you know, I feel like you can't even use it the way you want. Right. If I want to own a jet, like I said, I want to be able to do whatever I want whenever I want. And jet with four people wouldn't really.

[A]

No. You can't even go coast to coast fast because it's the propellers.

[B]

Exactly. Yeah. You gotta stop for gas probably two or three times.

[A]

Yeah. All right, bro, it's been fun. Where can people find you?

[B]

At Jerry M on Instagram. That's the main platform. I don't really do any content anywhere else. And at Jerry M, One story a week, baby. That's it. Great seeing you, Sean. Peace.