Erik Casano: Can Urine Therapy Really Heal Your Body? | DSH #1541

Summary

Digital Social Hour: Erik Casano – Can Urine Therapy Really Heal Your Body? | DSH #1541

Episode Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Erik Casano

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Erik Casano—entrepreneur, breathwork facilitator, and wellness advocate—to explore unconventional health modalities and personal healing journeys. The conversation ranges from innovative coconut preservation methods to deep dives into urine therapy, breathwork for trauma healing, the power of fasting, plant medicines like mushrooms, and Erik’s own story of overcoming cancer. Throughout, the discussion remains candid and challenges conventional wisdom around health and wellness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Innovating Coconut Preservation (00:45–02:28)

• The Cocoa Bear Story: Erik shares how his friend Torin revolutionized coconut preservation by inventing a method to freeze coconuts without them exploding. This innovation enables coconuts to have a two-year shelf life, maintaining freshness and avoiding chemical preservatives.
  • “So he said, well then I'm going to freeze a coconut, prove all you wrong... So we ship to Erewhon and Whole Foods. Whole Foods loves us. And we just went national.” (01:05–01:35, Erik)
• Discussion on Packaging: Erik criticizes coconut water in cans and plastic, emphasizing that glass is safer and “dead water” in cans lacks beneficial enzymes.
  • “You have to kill the living enzymes to keep it preserved. And then plastic is obviously toxic.” (02:12, Erik)

2. Detoxing in a Modern World (02:43–03:49)

• Impact of Microplastics: Both agree on health threats from microplastics, linking plastic exposure to widespread infertility and health issues.
• Importance of Detox: Erik underscores the necessity of detoxifying in today’s polluted environment, naming breathwork as a cornerstone of his approach.

3. Healing Through Breathwork & Birth Trauma (03:49–08:23)

• Breathwork as Healing: Erik explains that breathwork not only assists physical detox but helps heal “birth trauma,” the psychological impact of modern hospital births.
  • “Intense breath work… begins to heal the birth trauma. Because most people are pretty screwed up because they're born in a hospital.” (03:09, Erik)
• Birth Practices: Contrasts traumatic hospital procedures with the ideal of natural, nurture-focused births. Claims birth trauma deeply shapes personality, citing Leonard Orr’s work.
  • “When a baby comes out… the doctor cuts the umbilical cord while it's still pumping blood, and then they generally take away the baby... So that in itself is highly traumatic.” (03:09–03:49, Erik)
  • “I always say it's like humans coming off a conveyor belt... In hospitals it's anything but [sacred].” (05:20, Erik)
• Connection to Adult Behavior: Asserts that specific birth factors (e.g., C-section, late birth) influence patterns such as waking habits or being standoffish.

4. Urine Therapy: Practice and Personal Experience (08:23–12:33)

• Origins and Explanation: Erik describes amniotic fluid as “70% urine,” laying groundwork for urine therapy’s legitimacy.
  • “You lived in urine for nine months, you know?” (08:23, Erik)
• Cancer Recovery Story: Details his journey with testicular cancer, subsequent dream-inspired urine therapy, and ultimate recovery.
  • “So then I had this dream, and the dream told me, drink your urine. I was like, well, that's bizarre... After three weeks, it felt like I never did chemo. Cancer was gone.” (09:25–10:07, Erik)
• Urine Therapy Methods: Advocates for “looping” (consuming one’s urine), soaking in aged urine, and topical application—for skin rejuvenation, hair restoration, and even eyesight improvement.
  • “A friend of mine on [my Telegram group] actually regrew his hair by putting aged urine on his head every day for six months.” (11:02, Erik)
  • “If you take fresh urine and put it in your eyes 10 times a day... my eyesight's fine now. It worked in, like, three or four days.” (11:15, Erik)
• Referenced Literature: Cites The Water of Life by J.W. Armstrong as a guide to these protocols.
  • “You have to fast on your own urine, and you have to rub aged urine on your skin three times a day.” (12:07, Erik)

5. Stem Cells, Vivid Dreams, and Mental Clarity (12:33–13:49)

• Stem Cells Link: Draws parallel between stem-cell therapy and urinary stem cells’ purported regenerative power.
  • “When your body soaks and soaks up the stem cells, that's really what does it.” (12:26, Erik)
• Effects on Dreams: Both speakers mention experiences with vivid dreams during stem cell and urine therapies.
  • “When I was doing more urine therapy, my dreams were a little clearer.” (12:51, Erik)
• Lucidity and Clarity: Practices like fasting and dream journaling tied to mental clarity and enhanced dream recall.

6. Plant Medicine: Amanita vs. Psilocybin (13:49–17:15)

• Amanita’s Unique Qualities: Erik, a microdose enthusiast and business partner in the “Amanita game,” claims amanita muscaria strengthens the aura and soothes anxiety, contrasting it with the anxiety sometimes caused by psilocybin.
  • “Amanita actually strengthens your aura. It works more on the unconscious mind and it relieves anxiety. So it's really unique.” (14:34, Erik)
  • “It's the best plant medicine I've ever done... After a big amanita journey, the next day you're very empowered. You feel really good, ready to go, no cross, no. It's amazing.” (15:18, Erik)
• Cautions on Usage: Warns against consuming large quantities, referencing Paul Stamets’ adverse experience.
  • “Paul Stamets said that amanita is the most dangerous mushroom... But Paul Stamets didn’t do it correctly. You have to let it dry out first and then start small again.” (17:44, Erik)

7. Personal Hardship and Community Support (19:11–21:17)

• Wildfires and Loss: Erik recounts losing his home in the California wildfires, the help he received from friends, The Guitar Center Foundation, and GoFundMe.
  • “It sucks to lose everything, but I'm just so grateful that I have such good family and friends to support me...” (19:32–20:36, Erik)
• Observations on Community and Generosity: Finds beauty in community response amid tragedy.

8. Amanita at Festivals & Public Perception (21:38–22:56)

• Spreading Awareness: Describes distributing Amanita at music festivals and the overwhelmingly positive feedback.
  • “Everybody we handed it out to… said, this is the best thing ever. Can I have more?” (21:48–21:59, Erik)
• Challenging Stigma: Notes European skepticism about Amanita’s safety, suggesting it’s partly due to misinformation.
  • “If I go out to... the store, the bars or whatever, and I start talking about Amanita, every single person says, isn't that poisonous? Won't that kill you?... No, this is actually very healing.” (22:11, Erik)

9. Journaling for Lucidity and Growth (23:00–23:49)

• Day Journals and Dream Journals: Advocates for keeping both to cultivate memory, concentration, and lucid dreaming.
  • “Writing your day down at night and writing your dream down in the morning is a great place to start lucid dreaming.” (23:23, Erik)

10. Rejuvenation and Radical Fasting (24:08–27:37)

• Rejuvenation Through Soaking: Tells of The Water of Life and the book Anna, Grandmother of Jesus, which describe anti-aging protocols involving fasting and soaking in “amniotic-like” fluids (aged urine).
  • “She said first she would fast, and then they would wrap her up like a mummy, and they would pour an amniotic, like, plasma fluid on her... claimed that's how she rejuvenated her body.” (25:55, Erik)
• Food, Fasting, and Longevity: Suggests that regularly fasting—and even longer regimens supported by urine—could promote health and longevity.
  • “I think that humans eat, like, way too much... The first addiction is food.” (26:43, Erik)
  • “I've done two, three week urine fasts.“ (27:02, Erik)

11. Channeling and Consciousness (27:37–29:37)

• Erik’s Workshops: Shares that he teaches channeling via the “visual mind,” reframing it for skeptical audiences as dialoguing with the unconscious self.
  • “Every human being is in fact, a walking, talking channeler, whether they know it or not...” (28:23, Erik)

12. Wellness Brand: Aquarian Alchemy (29:27–30:08)

• Holistic Enterprise: Erik describes his wellness brand, Aquarian Alchemy, as a hub for breathwork, lucid dreaming, amanita, and coconut products—a holistic “wellness brand” he plans to rebuild after the loss of his healing center.

13. Life Lessons and What Matters (29:56–30:18)

• Perspective After Loss: Concludes by expressing gratitude for friendships, family, and present moments.
  • “It's such a bummer to lose everything, but it's actually helped me understand what's really important…” (29:57, Erik)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On overcoming cancer:

  “After three weeks, it felt like I never did chemo. Cancer was gone. Haven't been back to a doctor.”
  — Erik Casano (10:07)

• On urine therapy’s legitimacy:

  “You lived in urine for nine months, you know?”
  — Erik Casano (08:23)

• On birth and spiritual trauma:

  “Most people are pretty screwed up because they're born in a hospital.”
  — Erik Casano (03:09)

• On the power of Amanita mushrooms:

  “It's the best plant medicine I've ever done... After a big amanita journey, the next day you're very empowered.”
  — Erik Casano (15:18)

• On turning adversity into gratitude:

  “It sucks to lose everything, but I'm just so grateful that I have such good family and friends to support me... I’ve really seen how beautiful people can be.”
  — Erik Casano (19:32–20:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Coconut business innovation: 00:45–02:28
• Plastics, microtoxins, and detox: 02:43–03:49
• Breathwork and birth trauma: 03:49–08:23
• Erik’s cancer journey and urine therapy: 08:49–12:33
• Urine therapy protocols and stem cells: 12:07–12:33
• Lucid dreaming, concentration, and journals: 13:02–13:49; 23:00–23:49
• Plant medicine (Amanita & psilocybin): 13:49–17:15
• Wildfires, community support: 19:11–21:17
• Music festivals and Amanita advocacy: 21:38–22:56
• Radical fasting & anti-aging anecdotes: 24:08–27:37
• Channeling and teaching workshops: 27:37–29:37
• Wellness brand overview: 29:27–30:08
• Final reflections: 29:56–30:18

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Episode Tone

Candid, adventurous, occasionally mystical, and counter-cultural. Sean Kelly’s open-minded curiosity pairs with Erik Casano’s earnest, experiential storytelling and passionate advocacy for alternative wellness, leaving listeners with both tangible protocols and paradigms to challenge.

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For more: Find Erik’s initiatives (Aquarian Alchemy, Telegram group “Dr. Shivambu,” and company links) via episode show notes and follow Digital Social Hour for more unfiltered explorations.

Transcript

[Eric]

There's. All I can tell you is there's a book called the Water of Life and it's written by this guy, J.W. armstrong. And he cured all these cancer patients by putting them on one specific protocol. You have to fast run your own urine and you have to rub aged urine on your skin three times a day. He says it's really the aged urine. When your body soaks and soaks up the stem cells, that's really what does it.

[Interviewer]

Foreign guys got Eric on today. He's got three wonderful companies. We're going to talk dreaming breath, work, urine and mushrooms. Let's do it.

[Eric]

Hey, good to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Interviewer]

Absolutely. I met you originally through Cocoa Bear, actually. Yeah, I saw you guys in Whole Foods, love the product and I messaged you. So that's how we met.

[Eric]

Yeah. Amazing. And well, the story with that is my good buddy Torin is the only guy in the world who could freeze a coconut. Because if you try to freeze a coconut, they explode because water expands in the husk. So everybody told my friend Torrin, you can't freeze a coconut. It's impossible. So he said, well then I'm going to freeze a coconut, prove all you wrong. So Torrin figured out how to do it, said, well, I'm going to start this frozen coconut company. He rounded up investors such as myself. He came to me six years ago and said, hey, I'm the only guy who can freeze coconut. You want in? I said, absolutely. And then so slowly we. While he created the factory in Thailand, we polish the, we polish the coconuts, get rid of the husks and then freeze it two days after harvest, ship around the world. So we ship the air one and Whole Foods. Whole Foods loves us. And we just went national. And Whole Foods and normal coconuts have a two week shelf life. These coconuts have a two year shelf life in a freezer.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Eric]

And then when you defrost, it has about 30 days in a fridge.

[Interviewer]

Wow. That's still really impressive, my friend Tor.

[Eric]

And we changed the coconut game.

[Interviewer]

You did? Yeah. Because their shelf life was so short.

[Eric]

Totally. And they're all. Most coconuts are transported here refrigerated. And I think the FDA makes you either put formaldehyde or radiation.

[Interviewer]

Geez.

[Eric]

So by the time you get like a regular coconut, it, it's gone moldy and it's got all this weird chemicals on it. But we got through the FDA with the freezing process.

[Interviewer]

What about the canned coconut water?

[Eric]

I mean it's, it's dead water. You have to. You have to kill the living enzymes to keep it preserved. And then plastic is obviously toxic.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

So, you know, nature already created a beautiful, you know, container in the coconut husk.

[Interviewer]

I didn't even think about it energetically, but dead water makes sense. Anything out of plastic, I'd imagine is dead at that point, right?

[Eric]

Yeah, totally, totally.

[Interviewer]

So what about glass?

[Eric]

Glass is better. I like glass. I think glass is. Is pretty safe.

[Interviewer]

Okay. That's kind of what I try to focus on.

[Eric]

Yeah, me too.

[Interviewer]

I mean, the microplastics these days are finding in every single organ. It's concerning.

[Eric]

Yeah, totally.

[Interviewer]

A lot of infertility issues, health issues. Seems like plastic is involved in a lot of that.

[Eric]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. I wonder if detox methods get rid of plastic. Probably to a degree, but I think it's a huge reason detoxing is really important nowadays. Yeah, more than ever.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I know. One of your detox methods is breath work, right?

[Eric]

Yeah. We as human beings, we detox 70% of toxins out of our breath, 20 out of our sweat, if I'm not mistaken, and the rest out of the lower areas. So when you're fasting or if you're not eating any food, if you're on, like, a juice fast, and you start doing breath work, I think it's one of the ultimate ways to detox the body. And not only does breathwork detox us physically, but intense breath work. So breathing deep for about two hours begins to heal the birth trauma. Because most people are pretty screwed up because they're born in a hospital. So when a baby comes out the womb, they generally. The doctor cuts the umbilical cord while it's still pumping blood, and then they generally take away the baby and put it in this weird room of strangers. So that in itself is highly traumatic. It makes us really miserable and depressed and all that kind of stuff. So a better way to give birth is when the mother has the baby come out of the womb to wait at least an hour for the umbilical cord to stop pumping blood and then cut it. And then the mother should hold the baby for at least two days.

[Interviewer]

Wow. So two days straight.

[Eric]

I would say so. And to create that connection between the mother and the baby, but to rip the baby away from the mother is. Is barbaric, you know, so once people get into rebirthing, breathwork or holotropic breath work, which. Which is initially just breathing as deep as you can for two hours, a lot of people start having. They start reliving their Birth. Especially if you do deep breath work in a warm bathtub.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

Doing breathwork in a warm bath is one of the most intense experiences of one's life because breathwork's intense and a warm water is intense. So. So I facilitate breath work. And when I have someone breathe in a warm bathtub, they get cramped up, they scream, they cry, sometimes they relive their birth and then they come out and they feel better.

[Interviewer]

I need to try that.

[Eric]

Yeah, it's good.

[Interviewer]

That is crazy.

[Eric]

I'll facilitate you on the house, anytime.

[Interviewer]

Just like, oh yeah, I gotta get a bath filter first.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I know.

[Interviewer]

Tap water.

[Eric]

Jesus. I am with you there.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. The hospital stuff, I guess it's cuz they treat it like a business. So they want you in and out. Right. So they're just trying to crank these births out as fast as possible.

[Eric]

Uhhuh. I always say it's like humans coming off a conveyor belt, you know, rather than like. I mean, birth is so spiritual. It should be done in a church or a monastery and there should be, you know, know, midwife and, and someone praying. Like it's so sacred. And. And in hospitals it's anything but.

[Interviewer]

It's horrible. It's traumatic for everyone. The mother, the father, the baby.

[Eric]

I'm a C section baby, so I'm all screwed up.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

But I've been healing it over time.

[Interviewer]

My fiance is a C section. And apparently you don't get the same amount of nutrients, right?

[Eric]

Same amount of nutrients. Apparently you don't get the big DMT release when you come out of the stomach rather than the womb. A lot of C section babies, either they're very standoffish or they're too touchy. Touchy, really? I got more of the touchy, touchy stuff because I'm a big snuggly guy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Wow. That's what causes some people to be standoffish. C section. I never connected that.

[Eric]

Yeah, that and every single birth trauma has a particular like, issue that it correlates with. So not only am I C section baby, but I'm a late baby, meaning that I came out of the womb five days late. I didn't want to leave the womb. And people who don't want to come out of the womb, we tend to have a hard time waking up in the morning, which is really interesting. I read that in one of Leonard Orr's books and then I started asking people, hey, are you late baby? Oh, you are? Do you have a hard time waking up? Yeah. And it always matched up. And so people who come out the womb easily, they tend to wake up really easily in the morning.

[Interviewer]

Wow. So the birthing process is super important for the trajectory of your life.

[Eric]

Exactly.

[Interviewer]

I never even thought of that. That's, that's fascinating stuff.

[Eric]

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[Interviewer]

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[Eric]

He's the first guy to, to correlate breathing with birth and he wrote some really great books on it. He wrote this awesome book, Breaking the death Habit. I go around giving that book out to people, I send it to people on WhatsApp. I think it's really important to understand about the birth trauma and how to heal it through breathing.

[Interviewer]

Does everyone have it birth trauma?

[Eric]

I mean, I've met people who had a really great home birthday and they're incredible people. You can every time someone says like, oh yeah, I was born in a bathtub with my mom, they're usually next level people. They're not miserable, they're more intuitive, they just travel through life easier. It's really incredible. And then people with gnarly birth traumas, premature babies, you see it in their whole life and they have a lot to work through.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Importance of birth trauma because I've heard of childhood trauma, never birth trauma. All important, right? Damn. A lot of the way you act as an adult is from childhood.

[Eric]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And what's really interesting about being in the womb for nine months, we're, you know, we're grown in amniotic fluid and amniotic fluid is 70% urine. A lot of people don't know that. So I think that's like a really interesting correlation to people who do urine therapy when they express that the masses say, oh, that's disgusting, that's gross. But it's like you lived in urine for nine months, you know?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And you had your battle with a disease so you had to use urine therapy, Right?

[Eric]

Yeah. Ten years ago I had testicular cancer and, and so I had my left nut removed, which I didn't want to do. But I couldn't figure out natural healing. I knew it was there. I just didn't know how to do it. I said, if I don't figure this out, I'm going to die. So then after I had my left nut removed, the doctors are like, I'm sorry, you still have cancer, so we need to do chemo on you. It's in your lymph nodes. I promised myself I'd never do chemo, but I buckled and I did it. And after the chemo, the doctors did another MRI on me, and they said, you still have cancer. Your lymph nodes are inflamed. We need to cut you open and take out your lymph nodes. And I said, no, I don't really want to do that. So I was like, what am I going to do? And then I had this dream, and the dream told me, drink your urine. I was like, well, that's bizarre. How do I do that? So I started researching it, and I came across this article that said, for urine therapy to work, you have to fast on it. And I said, that actually makes sense. I sort of intuitively understand that. I don't know why I get it. So. So for three weeks, I looped my urine, and then I threw some. There's, like, water and juice in there. It was really easy. After three weeks, it felt like I never did chemo. Cancer was gone. Haven't been back to a doctor.

[Interviewer]

That's nuts.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think drinking urine can cure all cancer. It can cure many things, but it is very helpful. And I think one of the ways to use urine therapy to cure almost everything is you have to soak in it from head to toe while fasting. And it has to be aged because when you age urine, the stem cells are multiplied by the millions. And when you bathe in aged urine, for some people, it's actually psychedelic because it triggers prenatal memories. You feel like you're back in the womb. And all the stem cells and whatever else is in urine seems to detox and it seems to regrow cells because there are stem cells in there. That's a fact. So I have a telegram group called Dr. Shivambu, and David Wolf is a big fan of it. I've got, I think, 1700 people on there. And so through this telegram group, I've told everybody the things. I know a friend of mine on there actually regrew his hair by putting aged urine on his head every day for six months. No, now I haven't done it because I lack consistency But a friend of mine, this guy Aaron, who did it, he showed before and after pictures.

[Interviewer]

That's incredible.

[Eric]

I've helped people. I've taught people how to heal their eyesight. So if you take fresh urine and put it in your eyes 10 times a day, I've had, like, three or four people be like, yeah, my eyesight's fine now. It worked in, like, three or four days.

[Interviewer]

I try that.

[Eric]

Yeah, I've done it. I put fresh urine in a dropper dropped in my eyes about 10 times a day. And by day three, I'm seeing clear.

[Interviewer]

I'm like, whoa. So how bad was your eyesight before?

[Eric]

It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad, but it started. It started going blurry about three years ago. Probably looking at my phone too much.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Think I got to do something about this. Three days later and after putting in my eyes and everything's clear.

[Interviewer]

Does it have to be aged? Urine.

[Eric]

For the eyes, it should be fresh because age is a little potent. But for topical use, if you want to get rid of wrinkles, let it be aged. If you want to regrow hair.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And you have to be fasting while.

[Eric]

Doing this, I think it's more effective while fasting.

[Interviewer]

Okay. What's the science behind that? You think there's.

[Eric]

All I can tell you is there's a book called the Water of Life, and it's written by this guy, J.W. armstrong, and he cured all these cancer patients by putting them on one specific protocol. You have to fast on your own urine, and you have to rub aged urine on your skin three times a day. In the book, he claims that fasting on urine alone won't do it. He says it's really the aged urine. The. When your body soaks and soaks up the stem cells. That's really what does it.

[Interviewer]

I just got exosomes last week. I feel amazing. So I'm assuming it's similar, right? Because that's stem cells right over the.

[Eric]

Stem cells in the urine. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I feel really good.

[Eric]

That's.

[Interviewer]

My dreams have been more vivid, so I looked it up on ChatGPT. Like, is there a relationship with stem cells and dreams? And apparently there is.

[Eric]

Wow.

[Interviewer]

Isn't that crazy?

[Eric]

That's really interesting. That actually makes sense, because when I was doing more urine therapy, my dreams were a little clearer.

[Interviewer]

Crazy.

[Eric]

Now that I think about it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. This whole week, I've had vivid dreams.

[Eric]

That's so cool.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Well, you must have really good concentration. You say you have adhd, but you must be I mean, how? Like, one thing I realize about dreaming and lucid dreaming, dream recollection and being lucid. Lucid dreaming is just a side effect of concentration. So if you are meditating or concentrating with your eyes closed and maybe at 4 in the morning for an hour and maybe an hour right before bed, a side effect of concentration is lucid dreaming.

[Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Eric]

But I also think it's more than that. I think it's like, clarity. And when you have toxins, if you eat too much, obviously you don't dream as. As much.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Don't have as much dream recollection, I should say.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I've never seen ADHD as a hindrance. I'm able to concentrate when I want to, but my brain's definitely all over the place. But when I need to lock in, not an issue at all for me.

[Eric]

So you took a little amanita today?

[Interviewer]

I did.

[Eric]

Do you feel a little more focused or.

[Interviewer]

I think I do, yeah. Because I'm microdose psilocybin. I, I, I think I feel just more natural, if that makes sense. Yeah, like, stuff's just flowing.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yeah. I think amanita is so cool, and I'm so grateful to be partners with Christian and the, and the Amanita game. And one thing that, that, that I see, I see amanita as almost. It's almost the opposite of psilocybin in certain ways, from my perspective. So on psilocybin, or actually it's psilocyn, because psilocybin turns to psilocyn. So. But when you're on this plant, your aura opens. First of all. Some people get anxiety with psilocybin.

[Interviewer]

I've had that.

[Eric]

And it works on your conscious mind to program your unconscious mind. So amanita actually strengthens your aura. It works more on the unconscious mind and it relieves anxiety. So it's really unique. People who have never done amanita, they immediately think it's like psilocybin. Oh, that must be like psilocybin.

[Interviewer]

It's the opposite I've had. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you. Terrible anxiety off psilocybin to the point where I thought I was dying.

[Eric]

Yeah, me too.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it was rough. Oh, well, hopefully we ever had that on Ameceda.

[Eric]

No. Even when I've taken really large doses and I'm like, whoa, this is a little much. It's happening with no anxiety, and I wake up the next day. And I say, there's a little much. I could do less next time. No worries, you know, and it's, it's the best plant medicine I've ever done. I really believe it's the king of all plant medicine. Because not only is it like the emoji on your phone and, you know, Super Mario and Santa Claus, Alice in Wonderland, Smurfs, all that stuff, it seems to be filled with what people call kundalini energy or the holy spirit. And the reason I say that is because if you take a big dose of psilocybin or ayahuasca, the next day, some people are kind of drained. You gotta ground, get back into your body. But amanita puts you in your body. And after a big amanita journey, the next day you're very empowered. You feel really good, ready to go, no cross, no. It's amazing. And whatever you want in life seems to be attracted to you. And you know, Santa Claus puts presents under pine trees. These grow under pine trees, you know, these amanita seems to get rid of subconscious blocks and help you along your journey. It's, in my opinion, the greatest ally. Greatest plant medicine.

[Interviewer]

That's cool. Was it the first one you took on your spiritual journey?

[Eric]

No, I guess it would be cannabis when I was 14.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Some would consider that a psychedelic.

[Eric]

Totally. Oh, it was mind blowingly psychedelic when I was a kid. But I, I think, including myself, I think a lot of people tend to abuse cannabis.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Way too much. So forgiving. Because it, it soaks in your fat cells. So you can just have this like crazy tolerance and smoke forever. But I think the overuse of cannabis, I think it makes people really depressed. Everybody's different. I don't want to generalize here. A rumor says that somewhere in the Vedic scriptures they say cannabis is known as the destroyer of man. Please fact check me on that, everybody, because this is only something I heard. But if that's true, it would make sense.

[Interviewer]

Wow. When I was in high school, I pulled the fire alarm a basketball game, and I was. They thought I was high. So to get back into school, I had to pass a drug test.

[Eric]

Oh, wow.

[Interviewer]

And you said it's. It's stored in the fat. I was 4% body fat in high school, so I passed it in three days.

[Eric]

Nice.

[Interviewer]

I was super high, though. And I was a big stoner back in the day.

[Eric]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. But I know what you mean, though, how it's stored in the fat, because I've had friends that have to take a test and they're kind of overweight, and it takes them months to get it up.

[Eric]

Yeah, totally.

[Interviewer]

It's crazy.

[Eric]

Totally.

[Interviewer]

It's stored in there.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yeah. And your brain's really fatty, so can only imagine how much is chilling up there.

[Interviewer]

There's a lot of negative studies on it lately with cannabis.

[Eric]

Yeah. It has its place. I think it can be really helpful when done right, and that's with anything. And I like what Joe Rogan says about cannabis. He's like, it's a tool. You can use it to build a house or hit yourself in the foot, Shoot yourself in the foot or whatever. So I have to tell you this. This is really interesting. Paul Stamets was on Joe Rogan, and Paul Stamets said that amanita is the most dangerous mushroom. And then he goes on to say that he ate 12 grams of amanita pantherinas raw. And he said he had the worst time and that it's super dangerous. But Paul Stamets didn't do it correctly. You have to let it dry out first and then start small again. People tend to treat amanita like psilocybin. Oh, I'm just gonna take a whole bunch and trip my balls off. Well, you need to tiptoe into it so you can develop your own personal relationship with it before you start doing these Heroes journey.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Starting off with 12 on the first dose is pretty wild.

[Eric]

And Amanita panthorinas are four times stronger than Amanita muscaria.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap. That's the one I took.

[Eric]

You had Mascaria? Yeah, it was, you know, nice little light dose.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. So 12 times that one.

[Eric]

12 times 4 times 12. Jesus.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap. Yeah, good luck on that. That's an ego death right there.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer]

Geez. Cali's going through a lot right now. I know they had the fires last year. Now they're doing the riots. Are you still out there?

[Eric]

Yeah. My house burned down in January. I live close to Grant Cardone by the pier and by Dukes. And me and my partner Hannah, we were actually in Sweden visiting my parents when the fires happened.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

And my best buddy and business partner, Christian, he. He had just moved in.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Eric]

And he was taking care of my cat Romeo, and my girlfriend's son, Bodhi. And the fires broke out, and Christian calls me. I'm in Sweden. Christian's like, hey, fires are on their way. What should we do? Should we get out? I was like, yeah, get out. He said, do you want me to grab anything? I mean, to grab your hard Drives. No, it'll be fine. And then. Yeah, and then. And then everything burned down. It was surreal, you know, and. And I've been handling it really well because I've been through a lot and it sucks to lose everything, but I'm just so grateful that I have such good family and friends to support me and I've really seen how beautiful people can be. And Guitar center foundation donated six grand worth of gear to me because I lost my studio, all my cars and everything. Yeah. They bought me like a new guitar and a new recording unit. Super sweet of them. And then we started to go fund me and people helped out. So it was. It was really beautiful to see how nice people can truly be.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that was craziness.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Between the insurance stuff and no water, it just seemed like a really interesting situation.

[Eric]

Yeah. A lot of head scratchers there. I don't really. I know how it happened. Apparently there were some arsonists who were caught on the windiest day of the year. What a coincidence.

[Interviewer]

You know, Crazy. Did you have insurance, though?

[Eric]

Yeah. And.

[Interviewer]

Oh, nice. A lot of people did.

[Eric]

Yeah. It's. Yeah. I think a lot of people whose mortgages were paid off, they didn't. The insurance dropped them. I still had a mortgage, so. Bank didn't want to lose their money.

[Interviewer]

Nice. Now with the riots, I mean, have you seen that in your.

[Eric]

I was just. We were just at a festival called High Vibe Fest and I guess the riots started breaking out when we're. When we're at the fest. So we come back home, like, what's going on? What. What did I miss? You know, Pretty wild. I hope they figure it out. You know, I really pray for everybody and we just want the world to be a better place. I just want to help people move through their trauma and hydrate them.

[Interviewer]

And you should hand off some Amanita at some of those.

[Eric]

Totally, totally. Me and Christian, we just handed out a kilo at Lightning in the Bottle. Hundreds of people.

[Interviewer]

Is that a music festival?

[Eric]

Yeah, it's a music festival down in Southern California. A lot of fun. Yeah. Everybody we handed it out to, they all came back to us later and said, this is the best thing ever. Can I have more?

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

Amazing. It was. It was very heart opening and it's really beautiful to help people assist themselves in their healing journey.

[Interviewer]

What a great sign.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And a lot of people don't know the power of it. Right. Because there's a lot of people portraying it negatively.

[Eric]

Absolutely. I mean, it's especially in like European countries. Like, I'm half Swedish. I'm a Swedish citizen. And if I go out to, I don't know, like regular places, the store, the bars or whatever, and I start talking about Amanita, every single person says, isn't that poisonous? Won't that kill you? You're going to kill yourself. Then I have to explain over and over, because I choose to. No, this is actually very healing. I've been taking it for two years. Helped me sleep. I feel great. No issues yet, you know, So I think that's. I think it's interesting, you know, is it an agenda to get rid of the knowledge of Amanita? Maybe. Or it could just be lost knowledge that people don't know. You need to dry it out first so you know they're eating raw caps like Paul Stamets and having a bad time.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You still keeping a dream journal.

[Eric]

Lately? No. But when I do, I'm having amazing lucid dreams all the time. And I mean dream journals. And even I found having a day journal is also great for lucidity. So before you go to bed, if you write in your day journal of what just happened throughout the day, you're working on your memory and your concentration. And lucid dreaming is all about memory and concentration. So writing your day down at night and writing your dream down in the morning is a great place to start. Lucid dreaming.

[Interviewer]

I'll start doing that. I've always had the dream one, but never the day one.

[Eric]

I didn't realize how powerful a day journal was until just like a year ago.

[Interviewer]

Interesting. Yeah. I'll incorporate that into my gratitude journal because I do gratitude in the morning.

[Eric]

Amazing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I feel like that's been a game changer for me.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Keep me grounded.

[Eric]

Yeah. It's like a snowball effect. It's like karma. You say how grateful you are and then you find more things to be grateful about and.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Eric]

It keeps going and going.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It's been a game changer because I grew up in a pessimistic environment, so everything was seen negatively. So to have the complete opposite approach is. Is good. Right.

[Eric]

And you're doing amazing work.

[Interviewer]

So trying, man. Having on cool people.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I talk about immortality and stuff.

[Eric]

So. Okay, so if we're grown in aged urine for nine months in our mother's womb, and I've already revealed to you that I've seen people regrow hair or get rid of wrinkles with aged urine. And I said how if you soak in age urine from head to toe, it can create a psychedelic experience. Also in the book that I mentioned the Water of Life. They talk about, like, when you're deep on a water fast or a urine fast, by day five or six, you're a little lethargic naturally. Right. You don't have your protein and your carbs and things like that. So when you. Well, according to the Water of Life, if you soak in aged urine while fasting, it gives you energy and you can function.

[Interviewer]

Mm.

[Eric]

If that's true. And everything I'm saying. I want everything that I'm saying to be researched. I'm. This is just my perspective, and I'm just learning as I go. But if soaking an age germ while fasting gives you energy, then that changes our whole perspective on what food is. So I'm. So if. If that's true and you can just soak in age urine while not fasting for months, then you could live a long time, and you can rejuvenate your body by soaking in stem cells. So there's this channeled book called Anna, Grandmother of Jesus. And it's channeled. So this lady, Claire Hartsong, was dreaming, so to speak, about St. Anne channeling St. Ann. And St. Ann lived to be 600 years old. And in chapter eight in that book, she reveals how she was able to rejuvenate her body. She said first she would fast, and then they would wrap her up like a mummy, and they would pour an amniotic, like, plasma fluid on her, and she would be soaking in this plasma fluid for either a weekend or for like, 50 years.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

And she claimed that's how she rejuvenated her body. But what's really interesting about what I just said, it matches up to the Water of Life. The Water of Life talks about fasting and rubbing aged urine on your skin for healing cancer.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

So St. Ann is just doing that sort of on the extreme. But for anybody interested, read these three books, Breaking the Death Habit, the Water of Life, and St. Anne. And when you put those three books together, you might get an idea of how to rejuvenate the body.

[Interviewer]

That's so fascinating, because I've heard of Water Life, but I never thought it could be urine.

[Eric]

I'll send it to you on WhatsApp.

[Interviewer]

That's so cool. Wow. Yeah. If. If you can absorb nutrients through just urine, you don't have to eat physical food anymore.

[Eric]

If that's true, it's really fascinating.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Because food is what causes aging. Right.

[Eric]

Isn't that cool or weird? I should say that food helps us live, but it also kills us.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You know, it's interesting.

[Eric]

Yeah, Yeah. I think that humans eat, like, way too much. I know I do. I know, like, I need so little food and I'm just, you know, it's. The first addiction is food.

[Interviewer]

It's a. It's a big one for me too. Are you big on fasting?

[Eric]

I. Yeah, but I haven't fasted in about seven years.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Eric]

So I'm. I'm very, very overdue. And I've done two, three week urine fasts.

[Interviewer]

Three weeks, wow. I've done one, three a fast. I want to do maybe two of those a year. And then I might try a seven day one once a year. Three weeks is pretty intense.

[Eric]

Yeah. I mean, I would add a little bit of juice and water in there, which made it really easy because you're. If you fast on urine for three days or water and you're starting to feel weak and not as much energy and you have one juice, you're like, bam. Whoa. Let's go. This is all I needed. Right? You know, you actually see how little food you actually need, which is awesome.

[Interviewer]

Going back to the channeling real, real quick, you. You teach that to people at concerts you mentioned, right?

[Eric]

Yeah, I teach people how to channel through their visual mind at different festivals. So there's different kinds of channeling. Some people channel movement, some people channel with their voice, some people channel through feeling, and some people channel through their visual mind. Now, my visual mind is probably my weakest psychic ability, and that's what I wanted to improve. And as I learned how to use my visual mind, I realized, like, oh, my God, I'm channeling. So. And I understand that it's, like, really scary for some people. Like, oh, that's. That's bad. That's, you know, demonic. Yeah. But it doesn't. That doesn't make any sense. And it depends on what you're channeling. So I like to channel Yeshua Jesus. I like to channel Green Tara, the goddess of compassion. If you're channeling things that are very positive, that repel demonic energies, think you're in the clear. Because every human being is in fact, a walking, talking channeler, whether they know it or not, when you're dreaming or channeling, when you're hanging out, you're channeling. So I found that if there's. There's this. There's this thing with channeling, your visual mind, there's active visualization and passive visualization. Active visualization is when you choose what you want to see with your visual mind and you sort of. You create It. Because you're the God of your own universe. So you could visualize Jesus in an oasis. There's your active visualization. Passive visualization is when it just plays out. So I tell people it's. This is so simple. Visualize Jesus in an oasis. See the picture in your mind, then ask him a question, and passively let it just play out. And then, bam, you're talking to Jesus. It's not in for the logical people. You're just communicating with your unconscious mind, you know, the people who really know what's going on. You're.

[Interviewer]

You're.

[Eric]

You're channeling divinity.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You got another company too, right?

[Eric]

Aquarian Alchemy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Yeah. So I started a wellness brand called Aquarian Alchemy. And what we focus on is breathwork, lucid dreaming, amanita, and coconuts.

[Interviewer]

Oh, so it encompasses everything.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Eric]

Yeah, it's like a wellness brand.

[Interviewer]

Nice. Are you gonna have a physical location at some point?

[Eric]

So I ran. I ran my healing center out of my house, but it burned down.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yeah. I had ice bath, studio, sauna.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Really beautiful space. Yeah. But I'm gonna rebuild it and make it better.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Like I said, it's such a bummer to lose everything, but it's actually helped me understand what's really important. Moments like this, my friends and my family, you know, that's what's really important to me.

[Interviewer]

Eric, it's been awesome. And Anything else you want to close off with your.

[Eric]

No, I think that's it. Yeah. I really appreciate you talking to me. It's fun.

[Interviewer]

Thanks for coming on, man, so much. Yeah, check them out, guys. We'll link all these companies below. I'll see you next time.