
DSH #1835 - In this explosive political debate, Gary “The Numbers Guy” returns for his 11th appearance — this time clashing with first-time guest Brian Shapiro in one of the most heated exchanges we’ve seen. What starts as a discussion about political violence quickly spirals into an emotional argument about addiction, parenting, Donald Trump, liberal policies, family values, and personal responsibility. The debate intensifies when the conversation turns to whether addiction reflects bad parenting, comparisons between January 6th and Black Lives Matter, and whether modern liberal policies contribute to societal decline. Brian shares a deeply personal story about losing his sister to addiction, while Gary doubles down on his belief in strong family structure and conservative values. This is not a calm policy discussion — it’s raw, emotional, and confrontational. Two completely different worldviews collide in real time. 🎯 What You’ll Learn • ⚖️ Is political violence worse on th...
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Gary
The audience needs to understand. If you want to understand him, you gotta hit that pipe just like him. Come on, guys.
Unk
Once you hit that pipe, yo, this starts making sense. You don't make sense to me because I don't talk Crackonomics.
Michael
No, I don't make sense to you because you a low vibrational beast. Because you are the devil, because you are Satan, right? So I can't make sense to you. We are two different people frequencies, right?
Unk
I'm from the Paloma. I'm not from America. I will never claim America. I'm not from here. This is a prison planet.
Michael
But I'm not gay. I can use my complete mind.
Unk
I'm the closest thing to Muhammad and Jesus on this planet. And I'll tell you why.
Gary
Because I'm in making sure people start embracing the God code.
Podcast Host
All right guys, we got Gary and Unk back in the building. What's new, gentlemen?
Gary
Well, I mean, I'll tell you what's not new. A black man being on time.
Michael
I know such things. They're always trying to kill.
Gary
This guy was an hour late.
Unk
But, but it's, I mean it's to be expected. He's a black man.
Michael
We basically expect black people to be late like that. There's no such thing as time. Let me tell you this. You've never known God to be late. I'm God. He's talking to God. Let me tell you what I mean. It's no such thing as time. If it was such thing as time, the space of time would be the same. But the speed of light can't even get you out of this simulation. Let me tell you what I mean, right? Light speed can get me from here to the moon.
Gary
And like that, that crack pipe can too.
Unk
Eight that crack can.
Michael
And it's going to get me from here to Mars.
Gary
And like good drugs yesterday, bro, it's
Michael
going to get me here to Jupiter.
Gary
This exactly why you don't drugs right here.
Michael
Listen.
Unk
You understand this is the exact reason
Michael
they don't listen, right?
Unk
You don't do drugs.
Michael
No such thing.
Unk
They don't drug the kids.
Michael
They give me here to Jupiter. It'll take 10 years after that we stuck right after that it's just we keep on going, but we won't go nowhere. See, you worry about Time. But time never go nowhere. There's no such thing as time, right? Because everything in this illusion, it goes in the circles. There's no point.
Gary
He's definitely going.
Michael
Let me say what I mean. Let me tell what I mean.
Gary
He's definitely going.
Unk
He put numbers.
Michael
He with numbers. If I take a circle, right, I take one circle, I put another circle in the middle of it. I put another circle in the middle of it, another circle. They all got the same points, all right? All of a sudden, got the same points. They all the same size. A lot of people don't understand this, right? Listen, a lot of people understand where we live at, right? We live in a world to where everything come back and forth.
Gary
He's got white sweatshirt on. He belongs in a white padded wall.
Unk
Oh, oh, no, let's keep it real. Oh, let's keep it real.
Michael
The whites was pretty, right? The whites were pretty. Like, last time I saw him, I had on black.
Gary
Listen, listen.
Unk
It's Black History Month, so let me honor Black History Month. Hey, hey, let me honor Black History Month in a way they understand.
Gary
So first I'm gonna put on my rolly, right?
Unk
Because I want some respect to the black. And this is how you do it. You gotta flex what you flex.
Gary
So let me put on this ry first.
Unk
And now I want you to your
Gary
incel audience to tell me which one I should put on. Should I put on the Golden State championship ring, right? This is all real, too. Should I put on the Super Bowl 1970 Coach Ring?
Unk
Oh, I got one.
Gary
How about this? What I'm going to do, right? Philly's the dirtiest city of all of them. So I'm going to put this Philly championship ring. And right now, after I put that
Unk
on, I'm one of you. I'm a just like you.
Michael
And all this, everything you got on.
Unk
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. I got channel. Speak, speak, speak, speak. Yeah. Oh, a part of the black community for sure, bro.
Michael
Yeah. So all that real. Listen, he think all that real, but it's kind of. It's kind of crazy, right?
Unk
Because no good.
Michael
Listen, listen, listen. Let me say this, right? He kind of think that it's real, right? But actually it's not real. But it's real, but it's fake. Let me tell you what I mean, right? This reality that real enough to buy. He can't buy nothing with that. Because I'm telling you this. Whatever you love will kill you. And whatever that don't kill you, gonna make you stronger. That's what people think, right? But no, you don't get stronger. You get stronger by understanding that you live in a reality that you shouldn't be in in the first place, right? You stuck in. So all that shining ain't gonna get you out of prison. Let me tell you something.
Unk
I'm talking to your incel audience, bro. Talk about history month. Oh, oh, listen, listen.
Michael
Let me tell you something. I can prove he black right now. Right here, right now. I can prove that he black. Listen, where's they land? Find one land in America where white people come from. You can't find one. Not in America, not in the world. Why all? They probably conquered it.
Unk
No, no, but we took it by force. Everybody have a land. Everybody have a home. Because you have. Bro, you're not living. Where's your home? Where's your home? Listen, so listen, I took yours. That's what my people listen to, have a home. This is what homeless people do.
Michael
This is what homeless kids do. They act like this. Let me tell you something. Let me say something.
Unk
I mean, say why you can't find his home. Who's homeless? Where's yours at?
Michael
Let me tell me.
Unk
Where's yours at?
Michael
Tell you why he can't find his home. Yeah, bro, because his home is me. I'm his home. We are the same. He don't understand it. I don't. I don't claim, right?
Unk
Because there's no land for him, so there's no people. I'm a black. You have to be. And that's the difference between us.
Michael
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, we ain't the same. Listen, listen.
Unk
We ain't the same.
Michael
I know my daddy.
Podcast Host
Yeah, you mad.
Unk
We ain't the same.
Gary
I love you.
Michael
You mad about that, right? Listen, he mad. Listen, he's mad because he realized that he was me.
Unk
Listen, you don't have to look like me.
Michael
We all both energy and frequency, right? We're the same. Yeah.
Unk
Cheers. Right?
Michael
Yeah.
Unk
Pour some doubt over here too, for the dead homies.
Michael
But listen, it's crazy. Everybody say everybody dead. But I don't say rest in peace. You know why? Because everybody be back, right? I don't say rest in peace. I say see you later, right? A lot of people know this, right? So when people person die, they don't
Gary
really see you later.
Michael
There's no hell, right?
Gary
No heaven.
Michael
That's no hel.
Gary
Right.
Michael
This all state of mind.
Gary
I see you're in hell.
Michael
It's a state of mind.
Gary
I'm in heaven.
Unk
And we're in the same place. You know how you live in hell. It's a low vibration.
Michael
Listen to me. You know, a little mindset is, it's what he did when he put that jewelry on and he tried to taunt me and. And make me get emotional to make me smack out of him. That's what he want.
Unk
That ain't going to work out for you.
Michael
That's how they've been controlling us for years.
Gary
This is the. This is the black people.
Unk
When it's not violent, emotional, they want to threaten violence. Honestly, you guys ain't too good at violence because we took your land.
Michael
Listen, listen, let me tell you something.
Unk
See how that works?
Michael
Listen, they didn't steal the land through war. They lost the war. Would never known the white war. They won.
Unk
We y' all want. No, they gave. They run smarter than you.
Michael
You run smarter than you do is smart. Nobody in the world is smart.
Unk
IQ brain. IQ matters. Body count matters. Money matters.
Michael
Listen, listen. Guess what the IQ is. People know. IQ is IQ business. A new genius. Now, they don't understand what new genius is. A new genius, anybody can watch their own. It's a crack genius, right? Listen, anybody can watch their own thoughts.
Unk
Now, if you watch your own thoughts,
Michael
then you become a genius, right? IQ level don't exist. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you what I mean, right? Because the brain is not made to record memory, right? That's why I don't record.
Unk
I remember the last time we had a podcast memory. No, I understand you emotional because everybody tried to kill you. And you up, you're going to remember that, right? Smoke. No, I want smoke. I said, yo, bring them all because I want the smoke. I love the audience.
Michael
You'll never. You'll never get smoke from me because let me tell you why.
Unk
No, I want smoke from your audience.
Michael
Let me tell you why. Listen, let me tell you.
Gary
Let me tell you, because there are a bunch of.
Michael
Let me tell you. Let me tell you this.
Unk
And they mad at me, but they don't know their daddy's name.
Gary
What's going on here, bro?
Michael
Let me tell you this. Everybody don't know their daddy's name. My mother's name's Sophia, and that's your mother's, too. But you don't understand your mother's name. So you don't know your father's name, right? You don't understand where you at. I know both. You know. You don't know anything. You only know what's your mother's name.
Unk
You don't know your land.
Michael
Hell, yeah, you can even say your land. You don't know where your land. Where you come from?
Gary
Russia?
Michael
No, nobody come from Russia. Where do Russian people come from? Listen, let me tell you this. And black people confused too. So black, if you watch this, everybody confused. Listen, I can prove this. They think that everybody. Oh, this person was black. They was black. They confused melanin with being black.
Unk
Stop playing on me. No, that don't mean you black, right?
Michael
That just mean you got melanin, right? So listen, I'm tell you this, right?
Unk
No American back. You have a baby mama. Listen, American black means you don't know your daddy's name. That ain't African black. This is American. I know my daddy.
Gary
What's his name?
Michael
My daddy name? You want know my daddy name?
Gary
What do you call you? What do you call you?
Unk
Back in the day, a lot of
Michael
people understand what the monad is, because the monad is the creation, is everything. And that's my father. And my mother's name is Sophia, right? Because I understand where we at. I understand the prison we trapped in, Right?
Gary
Brother, Brother, I'm the one who said this. A virtual reality.
Unk
Oh, I'm the one who gave you a rating. 214, 90, 80.
Gary
And then I had you shook because numbers never lie.
Unk
Your ass lies.
Gary
I try not to listen.
Michael
Only thing.
Gary
But when it comes down to it, numbers rule this matrix. Start looking at numbers, right?
Unk
You know I can prove it right now. Why does Sean Kelly bring you on? Because you're bored,
Michael
that's why.
Unk
That's why you put from this.
Michael
Listen, listen to me, Sean. I can prove that numbers don't do anything because, listen, with all the numbers in the world, nobody can still do one thing right. Everybody talk about the universe, they control it with the numbers. But nobody has ever been able to control that crack above the universe and look down on it. Who have done it? Who have looked down on the universe to understand Numbers won't help you do that, right? Numbers won't help you do that. Listen, let me tell you what I mean, right? People don't understand.
Unk
Come on, numbers, time in the clock, it's always late.
Michael
Why?
Unk
Don't matter to him. No, he's on black man time. Always late.
Michael
Listen, everybody always say, I'm on black man's time. I'm always late.
Unk
Always late.
Michael
Everybody say that, right? Let me say this. Black man's time and time don't exist. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna be on time. How I' ma be on time when it's 1446? And everybody think it's a different year. I'm gonna be on time. When they stole the months, it was 13 months. Yeah.
Unk
Who stole the month?
Michael
It kind of happened, kind of like everybody.
Unk
I want to know who's guilty. Who stole the month?
Michael
Romans.
Gary
The Romans.
Michael
Yeah. And I'm gonna give it real, right? What they do, they took them because like when they killed you and they destroyed you, they want to act like nothing existed with you. So they kill you and then they change the time, right? That's what they do, right? A lot of people, yo, yo, oh, yo.
Gary
The audience needs to understand. If you want to understand him, you got to hit that crack pipe just like him.
Unk
Come on, guys. Once you hit that crack, yo, this starts making sense. You don't make sense to me because I don't talk crackonomics.
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Michael
Now, I don't make sense to you because you a low vibrational beast. Because you are the devil cuz you are Shayan, right? So I can't make sense to you. We are two different frequencies, right? But I'll tell you how I can make sense to you. If I reached up and smack out you right now, that it makes sense. But I'm not going to do that.
Unk
I actually know how to throw hands. I grew up in the hood just like you, brother. We both made it out.
Gary
You know what?
Michael
You would never make it in the hood. Never make it out if you go
Gary
to the hood, right?
Unk
Cleveland, Ohio. You ever been to I don't give a About everywhere. Cleveland. I'm in. I'm in Cleveland now. Nothing everywhere is clean. Vegas is la. People run up on you. La. You got to check in. In la. I don't have to. Why do you do this?
Michael
Are you going to ask any questions? Like why you never ask questions, Sean? Like you got us here, man.
Unk
Just going off. He want to change the subject. Defeated.
Michael
I'm not changing something you ain't talking about.
Unk
Let's do it.
Michael
Let's go. Ain't no subject. There's never subject with him. Let me tell you why no subject with him. Because I'm the white devil, right? No, no.
Unk
Keep giving that crackpipe.
Michael
No, no, you're not a white devil. Because anybody could be the devil. The devil within. We create our own devil from the state of our mind. So the devil is created, right? It's a created player. Listen, I'll tell you this, but you can't worry about not born with the devil. Everybody is born with the devil. You can blame it on their mama, right? Because their mama and their daddy have these negative energies and they put that on the kids. So the kid got the devil in them already. It's the mama fault. It's the daddy fault. So smack the out the mama and the dad. But when you do it, you got to do it like this. You got to smack yourself back.
Gary
If you want to talk about real frequency, make sure your woman is not ran through. Fucking whore. And then they're not going to have fucking negative.
Michael
That don't matter.
Unk
You can't have a healthcare with a ran through. He's not everybody ran through because everybody been a million.
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Unk
Everybody got a million. So everyone you know versus not my wife. Your wife got million times you wife a million times times. I swear, mama, she probably still get down while we doing this.
Gary
Your mama's on.
Unk
That doesn't mean mine is. All right, we gotta cop that. What are you, the 13th child? What are the 14th child? It shows I married a virgin. My kids are a higher frequency than yours.
Michael
Your kids been here before. Your kids probably was. Yo, how your soul so everything?
Gary
No, no, no.
Michael
You're everything.
Unk
You're not even a master number, baby. You just a seven like death. You gotta get reincarnated to be an 11, to be a 22, to be a 30.
Michael
Let me say this, baby.
Unk
This ain't white and black, bro. This is freaking.
Michael
Let me say this.
Unk
You don't know about it.
Michael
Let me say this.
Unk
You still down here.
Michael
Let me say this. In order to see, right? If you see it in this light, you're wrong, right? In order to see, you got to go blind. Let me tell you what I mean. The sun was created out of the darkness, right? Everything you see was created out the darkness. That mean darkness. This was here before. What? The light. Listen, the light of speed can't even get us out the simulation. We can go as fast as we want, but the fastest speed we know is the speed of light. And the speed of light is not fast enough to get us out the simulation. So let me tell you something. It's not about the light. It's about the dark, right? He don't understand. That dark energy is really.
Unk
No, he's laughing, but he don't understand. He talks about everything, everything in his life. Let's understand, let's just cry. Let me break it down. Let me break it down. Let me break it down.
Michael
You everything in this alight is a illusion, right?
Unk
I see you.
Michael
No, you don't see.
Unk
I see you talking. I see you all in white. Try to wish you one of mine, but you wait.
Michael
No, no, you never will be, bro.
Unk
We ain't the same frequency, same color.
Gary
And you know what?
Michael
Are we the same. We the same.
Gary
I'm gonna be over here.
Michael
We the same.
Gary
And you're gonna be over here, king of the incel. Because your audience is broke. Your audience is nothing but baby mama culture. And they can hate me all they want, right? Because you know what? I work work with black people, right?
Michael
Right.
Gary
But you know what? Just like you have white people and white dog smelling crackers, you have blacks and you have ends.
Unk
We ain't the same pimp.
Michael
Let me tell you something.
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We.
Michael
We are the same. I don't care how much you try to respect me. I'm gonna tell you one thing. It's going right back. It's gonna mirror. I said if. Listen, listen. People want to say listen. If they do. When I mirror him and the reactions right now, he want to go back to something that I said. That's not even what I said. Because that what people do. He got to see himself, right? No, I never said. I said if, right? See, people misuse the words. Just like they said, the love of money is the root of all evil. It said the love, right?
Unk
You're not about money.
Michael
You're not listening.
Unk
You're not about that bag. You a millionaire. I don't love a million. I don't love it.
Michael
That's why I got here.
Unk
I don't love it. That's why I got here late. I don't about times. I don't give a. About money. No, no, you can't care about money. You never pass. You do a contact with me. You do care about money. I'm here for real. You want to get views, you want to get clicked, you want to get paid.
Michael
I'm here because I'm here. Cause God got a message for you.
Gary
All right?
Michael
Yeah. Coming through me. I'm the prophet, right? You don't understand. I'm keeping it real, right?
Unk
I'm a prophet of the creator, right?
Michael
Listen, I just told you.
Unk
I just told you.
Michael
Listen. I just told him. Listen. This whole time, white people, right? And I love my white people, right? They've been running around stealing land because they cannot find their own. They go around, they search everywhere, looking for their land. Where's their land? They can find it, kill everybody, right?
Gary
Who is he laughing? Take their shit.
Podcast Host
But.
Michael
But to find their land, all they got to do is look within. Their land is anywhere they put their feet at. This is all our land together. We are one group of people. We are one race, but we have been divided, right? So who's dividing us?
Gary
Who's dividing?
Michael
I don't think you.
Gary
Me? Yeah, I got. Can I come in here with, like, four black people?
Michael
Everyone.
Unk
Everyone on my team do I do a podcast? They divided us. Ego Fresh. They divided us with ego. No, no, no. They divide us with ego. No, no.
Michael
There are black.
Unk
Black men, black citizens. There's no black United States of America.
Michael
You.
Unk
You ain't black, bro.
Gary
You something.
Michael
No, I'm not black.
Unk
You stuffed up.
Michael
I'm not black. I'm not a physical.
Unk
I'm from the Paloma. I'm not from America. I will never claim America. I'm not from here.
Michael
This is a prison planet.
Unk
Why not be happy to be in prison?
Gary
You claim that American money.
Unk
You paid that American money, don't you? You live in America because you can make money here. You talking all this cap. You don't care about money. You try to get views, you get paid. Cut the cap.
Michael
You know what?
Unk
You know it.
Michael
You know why I'm in America? Cuz they lock me here. They lock me here when they trick me to get a felon. Now, I can't leave, right? I don't think people understand right.
Unk
Get out of here right now. Where you want to go?
Michael
I can't go.
Unk
I can't go.
Michael
I got more money. I can't go. You know why I can't go? I'll make sure they lock me here.
Gary
Now look.
Michael
His eyes coming out. Oh, your eyes. Like you at the devil eyes. Boy, I see it all in your eyes, in your face.
Gary
Because I'm a better man than you.
Unk
That's what you see. You see, you can't ever be. I'm a better. My influence. You'll never have what I have. I hold my spirit.
Michael
You're just.
Unk
Flaco's better than you. There's people. I'm a better man and woman than you, bro.
Michael
I'm a better man and woman than you.
Unk
I swear.
Michael
I got mama. I activate my masculine and my feminine. No, I activate my masculine and my feminine. I. I'm able to use my complete mind.
Unk
No, my complete mind. I'm man and woman.
Michael
But I'm not gay. But I'm not gay. I can use my complete mind.
Unk
No, I have that crack got you all up. You hit that crack and then you think you're a man or a. What the.
Michael
Is everybody watching this? Imagine this as a mind, right? This is a brain. And you've got a little split. You got split in your brain and your brain. You got a masculine. You got a feminine side of your brain. When you join them together, that's the real marriage. But they trick you with the fake marriage. You mean what I have right now?
Unk
You mean what I have? Are you married, Sir?
Michael
It's fake.
Gary
Are you married?
Michael
I never marry.
Gary
Exactly.
Unk
I got a marriage. I got a nuclear family. I got kids.
Gary
And you know what? The thing is? He's right. He's right about the divine feminine.
Unk
He's right about that. I'll give you your props.
Gary
You're right. But you see what the problem is?
Michael
What's the problem?
Gary
If you're a. You can't have any divine feminine. You're just a.
Michael
But you can be released. No.
Unk
Once a whore, always a whore.
Michael
Not true.
Unk
You're always a goddamn homosexual. It never. That's not true. That's not the game.
Michael
That's not true.
Unk
When you find a woman.
Michael
Not true.
Unk
Who's a virgin, then you can tap in. You were never feminine how I did.
Michael
I didn't go find version in the world of recarnation. When everybody here have been here before. So you cannot find a virgin. Everybody.
Unk
We're talking about.
Gary
We're talking about body counts, bro.
Michael
Because I can prove it. No, listen. Everybody come in on this earth with a used body. They got to make it brand new. Everybody come to earth.
Unk
It didn't look like that. You might have been a white man.
Michael
Let me tell you.
Unk
You might have been a white man. Last time you might have been a silver back.
Michael
Let me tell you what. I mean it. When you come in this earth, you come on this earth with a used body. Everybody confuses that. They come in this earth with a new body, but you got a used body. Because all your emotions from your family from all them have been driven into this body. Body. So you have to release that because you're.
Gary
Imagine if your mom's a.
Michael
Listen.
Unk
All that negative energy within you.
Michael
Oh, whose mom? Not a whore. Whose mom? Your mom's a. That's how you got.
Gary
Listen, brother, listen. Maybe your mama.
Michael
That's how you got here.
Unk
Maybe your sister.
Gary
Because you know what?
Michael
Everybody's my family. Everybody like whores. Everybody like whores, right? Yeah.
Gary
This is why you turn out like this.
Unk
I guarantee you guys, you start hitting your profit. His.
Michael
My mama ex boyfriend thinks she's a right?
Unk
I swear. Mama.
Michael
So people don't understand this. Once you stop with somebody, you are now a. So anybody.
Unk
If you them, you're a.
Gary
That's why.
Michael
That's why.
Gary
That's why that. No, listen, listen. Don't listen to this crackhead who came from a. You want to keep your family divine.
Unk
You want to make sure when you buy.
Gary
I got an apologize to his mother. But not to him him. Because we ain't.
Michael
You got apologize too. I don't.
Unk
To the woman I apologize. I don't give a. It's not my fault.
Michael
You don't understand.
Unk
It's not my fault.
Michael
I don't give a. If he disrespect my earthly mother. Cuz a lot of times We.
Unk
Who's your spiritual mother?
Michael
A lot of times we both.
Unk
I'm your spiritual daddy.
Michael
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unk
I'm your spiritual daddy.
Michael
This nigga's a Braxis, right? Yeah, this. This a Braxis. You a Braxis and you don't even know it, right? Hell, I'm trying to ask who you are.
Gary
Tell me what a bris is. Go ahead, break it down, brother.
Michael
The demerge.
Gary
You.
Michael
You right, the person. Yeah, I know you don't know.
Unk
I don't talk about it. I don't know what that means, but enlighten me.
Michael
Bro, you talk satanic, you talk Satan,
Unk
you talk numerology, I talk astrology.
Gary
You talk understand the prime creator's language. And I spread it. You didn't even spread.
Michael
You didn't even know the name. I said the Monad and you didn't even understand what the I was talking to. You don't understand level of.
Gary
Just like your little skull about it
Michael
ain't undouble about this right here.
Gary
Oh, that. That looks like satanic, bro.
Unk
Who are you praying?
Michael
I'll pray to nothing. No, don't know if you're watching this.
Unk
Please don't pray. Don't nobody ever pray. If you pray, you're gonna be fucked up.
Michael
This is how you pray. If you go pray, right, a lot of people gonna pray, say, God, please bring me some money. Then your dumb ass gonna stay broke. You gotta say, I'm already rich.
Unk
A lot of people go say, God, please heal me from cancer.
Michael
Cancer gonna kill your ass. You gotta say, I'm already healed. See, people don't understand about prayer. You gotta command the body, right? You have to command things into this existence. You cannot pray. Pray is weak, right? Right now I was like, oh my. Gonna pray for shit.
Gary
Do you use that as a crackpoint put? Is that where you get all your knowledge from? I'm trying to see where it comes in. Because you make no sense, bro. I look at you, you don't look divine to me. You just look like a guy who's out there trying to build an audience. And you'll say whatever you need to say to get paid, bro.
Michael
That.
Gary
That's why I look.
Michael
You know why?
Unk
But you a capitalist, I'll give him that.
Michael
You know why? Cuz I'm in his body. Listen, you can never see my true essence. Let look at my aura, the reason why I could see him. Cuz I see his aura. I see what's my aura, his body, what's my aura? Let me tell you This I see
Gary
nothing but smoking your aura.
Michael
He's a good man, right? He's a good man. Not only he's a good man, he help people. Not only does he people, he got a numerology so he can figure out himself and figure out where he at. He's not a. He's not a dumb man. He's not a man that's on his universe.
Unk
I'm the closest figure out to Muhammad and Jesus on this planet.
Gary
I'll tell you why, because I'm making sure people start embracing the God code.
Michael
Right?
Unk
The code.
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Unk
And astrology. You out here doing what, pimp? I'm out here fighting the world.
Michael
What are you doing? If you, if, if you follow Jesus, if you follow any of them things, you will understand. In order to get somebody to learn, you got to lie to them. Let me tell you what I mean. I'm keeping it real.
Unk
I'm keeping it real, right?
Michael
Listen, listen. In the Bible, Jesus was talking to somebody, right? He was talking to the disciples. He was talking to somebody else. When he left, the disciples asked him, they said, yo, Jesus, why did you tell us something different than you just told that person? Jesus said, because we got to get the baby the milk, right? So I'm going to tell you what I mean. So we're not trying to get nobody to learn. He talking about smarts. We don't care about your IQ level. We care about your awareness. We want you to understand where you at. We want you to understand the game because it's not about holding on to anything here. It's about understanding where you're at, right? At any moment this could be over, right? But any moment, you will never be over until you understand that you are always over. Right? I don't think people understand this. Right? So no matter what he say, no matter what I say, one thing still stands. Me and him are connected. There's no win or losing. He can't beat me. I can't beat him. It's impossible. Is it possible for me to beat him?
Gary
Is it possible for me Because I already won, right? Yeah, that's why.
Michael
Listen, he already won't stay winning.
Unk
He won't stay winning. He won.
Michael
He won the moment he woke up.
Gary
First of all thing, I don't care what people say in the comment section. I don't care what people say. And they make videos. I don't care because I'm here to touch the 10, 15%. Doesn't matter if they're men, women, black.
Michael
No. You hear?
Unk
I'm here, you're here. Enlighten the best of the best of the world. They're gonna follow my back. And I will take you to the problem numerology here to charge you for
Michael
some fake numerology numbers that don't even matter. Any number worked on you is fake. Worked on you last time.
Unk
Any number after. When did Jesus Christ die? Listen, when did Jesus die?
Michael
He never died.
Gary
33, pimp.
Michael
He never died.
Gary
That's why they call it the Christ consciousness.
Michael
No, listen.
Unk
Circum seed consciousness. He thinks these other 33. He thinks every single time Jesus was a man.
Michael
He thinks Jesus was a man.
Gary
What, you think it was a whore?
Michael
It's impossible for Jesus to be a man. Let me tell you how it's impossible for Jesus to be a man. I'mma prove it right now. Listen, according to what we live at, the Bible says. Said this Bible said that Jesus was 100.
Gary
Could you imagine looking at this guy? I think he's a Bible scholar.
Michael
The Bible said Jesus was 100 up, bro. Okay? The Bible, the Bible says.
Unk
Yo, I might need some crack. Okay, Let me tell you about Jesus.
Michael
The Bible, the Bible said Jesus was 100% human, right? And that he came through masculine reception, meaning that Mary had the baby without male energy. That's true. That can happen.
Gary
Can you prove it?
Michael
Women is xx.
Gary
Can you prove it?
Michael
Man is xy. So for her to do that, it had to be what? Xx? It had to be what? A female, right? She could only have a female if the Bible was true, if it was 100 human. But here's the Thing what people don't understand. Jesus came two times in the Bible because he came mask of deception. And then one part of the Bible. Guess what happened? The angel Gabriel came on two men, Mary. I mean the male energy went into the feminine energy and Jesus was born. That was two Jesuses. But Jesus came more times than that. You know, a lot of people don't understand, right? Jesus appears so many times, so many different things. He is still here now because nothing leaves assimilation.
Gary
It's amazing when I look at this guy tried to preach because he's with the fairy tales.
Michael
That's not fair.
Gary
He's with the Santa Claus and the two fairies.
Michael
That's true.
Gary
I'm with the real people. Because when you look at Bible, when you look at Israel angel, Michael, Gabriel, you always have that L at the end. What does that L represent? Elohim. They don't even know who the they're praying to.
Michael
Let me ask a question.
Unk
There's three demons. Hold on. There's three demons that run this world.
Gary
The first one is called is. The next one is called Ra As. And we have have a K A sutra, right?
Michael
And then we have too much.
Gary
Those three demons run this world. And this guy doesn't even know he serves.
Michael
Guys, the question is, is that water on that table alive or dead?
Gary
I don't know. Let me put it right here.
Michael
Is it alive or dead?
Gary
Yeah, we need some holy water in here.
Michael
Is it alive or dead?
Unk
Take some holy water.
Michael
Holy water, brother, Is the fruit that you eat alive or dead? Would it sit on your counter? Is it like the apples, the oranges? Is it alive or dead?
Podcast Host
If it's fresh, it's alive.
Michael
It's alive, right? The moment you eat dead food, you become dead. So let me tell you this right here, right now. See, you don't understand what's going on because you have been processed by the processed food in this world. I could just already tell, right? I could tell by your size how fat you is, right? I can smell the pork coming from you. Listen, have you ever seen me eat pork? Listen.
Unk
Haram. Haram. I don't eat pork. I don't eat bacon. That is haram. You do.
Michael
What? Listen to me. Why did Jesus put the evil spirits in the Bible? He put them inside. What? The pig? Start playing with me. The pig.
Unk
My exact.
Michael
Listen to me.
Unk
He don't gotta eat pork to smell like a fucking pig, right?
Michael
You guys just possess the energy of the pig, right? A lot of people don't understand this, right? So what I'm saying Black man coming
Unk
in with a white sweatshirt talking about white people smelling like pig. Let me keep it real. I don't eat bacon.
Michael
You don't got it?
Unk
I don't eat pork.
Michael
He understands.
Gary
I'll tell you what it is. You lost someone's a.
Michael
You understand what I'm saying? It's you, brother.
Unk
You know what a swine does?
Michael
We're not talking about protects a.
Unk
We're not talking about a pig. It's always out there.
Michael
We're not talking about food.
Unk
So they're. So I smell the swine on you. Cuz you're a. And you act just like a pig. So I might smell like a pig,
Gary
but you are one, right?
Unk
You have a pant.
Michael
What's the last thing you touched? What's the last thing you touched? What's. Say it, speak it.
Gary
You want to see this?
Michael
What's the last thing you touch? Touched? Tell me. Tell me. What's the last thing you touched, bro?
Gary
You see it, brother?
Michael
You blind?
Unk
I don't see it.
Michael
Are you blind?
Unk
See my nose? You don't see it?
Michael
Oh, you think you touch your nose? I can guarantee you never touched nothing in your life. See how dumb you is? You never touched anything, right? So what you think you touching? You're not touching, right? I said, mama, listen, I'm tell you what it is. It's a bunch of atoms, a bunch of shit going on bunch of frequencies. Like two magnets going like this. They never touch each other. You never touch nothing. You're not too wise. You could touch on them numbers though. But I don't think you understand. That's why I ask you certain questions. So you can understand the reality of which we live in. If you don't understand, you never touch shit. You can't touch me, right? You can't touch me with your brain.
Unk
I don't need to touch you. Your frequency's over here.
Gary
Mine's over here.
Unk
That's why you ramble. But you don't understand.
Michael
But you don't understand where you're laying at. You don't understand. You're not touching. You don't understand, but yet you understand.
Gary
I understand. This is situation, okay? I understand. This is simulation and my numerology and astrology explains it. While you're talking about touch, right?
Michael
See, right? Listen, I keep it real because I have a system.
Gary
System that can benefit worldwide. You're over here talking nonsense.
Michael
I'll say this without going to change. Without his system. Correct. He says some correct. We cannot realize where we at, though. Numerology. Is the reason why we know that we live in assimilation. Because it's correcting.
Unk
Numbers are bulls.
Michael
Listen to me now.
Gary
He says numerology.
Michael
I'm not pictured. Let me say. Let me show you. I'm gonna bring it. Wrap it all up, right? People don't understand. He. I can't contradict myself because look, love and hate is the same. Let me tell you what I mean. Love and pain is the same. Let me tell you what I mean. Because everybody you love, you're going to feel pain, right? And you got to feel that pain and still keep that love in your heart. So everything is double edged sword. So I cannot tell a lie. So you just have to listen and let me fully understand what I'm saying.
Gary
Every word out of your mouth is a lie.
Michael
No, it's not a lie, because every single one. No, I'm telling you, listen, you cannot lie on this, in this plane, because everything you say you're going to bring into existence. There's no such thing as a lie. I keep saying that. Everything you say comes.
Gary
Are you a cracker? Crackhead?
Michael
At one time I was right? But at this time I'm not.
Gary
So you told the truth, right? See how that works?
Michael
Told the truth, it doesn't matter.
Unk
Let me ask you another question.
Gary
Does that residual from that crack still affect you right now?
Michael
Of course.
Gary
Okay, so maybe that's why you think you're a prophet, because you're a former crackhead.
Michael
Of course.
Gary
There you go.
Michael
But listen.
Gary
So it is what it is.
Michael
But let me tell you what I mean. What I mean. Let me tell you what I mean.
Unk
We here now, bro.
Michael
Let me tell you what I mean. Everybody, everybody in the Bible that was a prophet. Where did they get them at? From jail? They were suffering, right? They were suffering from low level entity things on this dimension, on this planet. So to qualify to be a prophet, you have to be a crackhead.
Unk
You have to be.
Michael
No keeping it real, right?
Unk
You have to go through pain. Smoke crack. You have to go through pain. Muhammad smoke crack, the Buddha smoke crack.
Michael
You don't get it.
Unk
I never will.
Michael
I don't give a. About the Buddha. Let me tell you, Let me tell you. Listen, listen, bro.
Unk
We gotta show love to all the guys.
Michael
All the controlling guys. Listen.
Gary
Exactly.
Michael
I'm above spirituality. I'm above religion. Spirituality and religion are both sent by the devil. Because they all tell you you got to wait for the outside of yourself.
Gary
So let me stop right there. Do we agree on one thing?
Michael
What?
Gary
When you pray, you become prey.
Michael
100%. Listen, I'm gonna tell you this. We kind of like, we agree on everything. There are a lot of people, everybody watching this, they're gonna say, oh, he racist, he this, that. But we agree on everything. But the problem is is we explain it different. It's like we both look at this cup, he see the face and I see this face. But we look at the same cup, right? We see the same thing. The only problem is he don't understand two things. You are right. It's just more to it, right? See, people don't understand this, right? So let's basically, they can never be wrong, but I can never be right too, because it's not all of the information. Let me tell you what I mean. This water, it came from a place, right? In a little thing with a lot of water there, but it's not all of the water. So it's like consciousness is all of that water. And then we dig this in to get this and we think we got all of the water.
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Michael
We can never have all the water because it cannot fit in one cup. So it cannot fit in one religion. It can't fit in one spirituality. It can't fit solely in numerology. We need everything collectively.
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Gary
Nothing better than numerology because that is actual God code. Nothing better because there are systems that overlap.
Michael
Told you this myself.
Gary
I taught myself I'm a self.
Michael
Who told you It's God code. Listen, let me tell you something. Nobody never heard the creative voice. We don't. We don't know God code. Everything you see is us. Trying to figure out God code and trying to.
Gary
I already figured it out.
Michael
We're trying to say it. It's not God cold. If God seen it, God gonna say, that's not correct.
Gary
Let's quit. Quit all the games. I'm born in seventh. I'm the one who has the high IQ level. You're born on the 14th, you're the senior. You're over here to let us tap. You're over here to talk.
Michael
I love it.
Gary
You do it.
Unk
I don't tap dance. I tapped into the audience. That's what you're doing, man. I'm here to educate the public and I'm taking his audience and educating them through numerology and astrology. And you can tap.
Gary
That's for mine.
Michael
Something. You can't educate nobody. Because the moment you teach somebody, they're gonna forget. Right? The only way people learn is through their emotions. Right? I keep trying to tell him this. I don't think he understands.
Gary
I'm an emotional guy.
Michael
Can not teach no one. The moment I'm one of the greatest
Gary
teachers in the world.
Michael
You can't teach nobody.
Gary
I'm one of the greatest.
Unk
I got students all over the world, bro.
Michael
A teacher is only as good as they student, right? You only as good as the person that you put teaching that already know what?
Unk
I agree with you. I agree with you. A teacher as good as.
Gary
Yo, how many people did I make multi millionaires last year with zcat?
Michael
They had to be want to do it already.
Unk
Exactly.
Michael
They had to be want to do it already.
Unk
Found my. And I took him to a lab like a real problem prophet.
Michael
It's the problem, right? You can't take it back to promised land. You can't save nobody. Everybody got to say they self, right? People don't understand this. Right? I'm not here to save nobody. I'm only here to show you that bro, bro.
Unk
You got to save yourself before you can save anyone.
Michael
Exactly. You gotta stand. Listen. I'm gonna tell you something. It is something that was told by Noble Dwelly. I don't know if you heard of him, but he said this. I'm gonna give you what it takes to save a nation. Now take it and save yourself. Means I got enough information to save everybody, but not to save myself while I'm saving everybody else is pointless. Let me tell you what I mean. It's people right now that's locked up in prison that claim to be spiritual leaders. But how are you a spiritual leader and you locked in prison? You can never be Locked in prison. And you're a spiritual leader. Got your body. They already had your mind, so you was already too weak to be.
Unk
We all economic slaves, pimp. We all economic slaves. So by those definitions and those terms, you're a slave too?
Michael
No, I'm not a slave because I'm not slave of time. See, I came in late. When you said that, you say uncle. You. You not on time. You're not. I'm not a slave for time.
Unk
I'm not a slave for money. I'm not a slave for. I'm not a slave. That's what people with your skin color do. I was slave to the Monad.
Gary
Yo, listen, this is. This guy's a great entertainer. And if you're watching him to get entertained, I. You know, this is wonderful content. But if you're actually watching him to learn, you're gonna end up broke. Because the only one who can make it like him is 607.
Michael
Unk.
Gary
Because he's born 214, 1980.
Unk
He's born in the year of the monkey. He's born in a monkey Nation, America. Founded 1770, 26. That's why he made it. Oh, that's why he made it. And it would never have happened anywhere
Gary
else because he is in America.
Unk
That's why he's famous. He's in America. That's why he's got that back.
Michael
Sean, I was never born, right? In order to be born, that mean I had to die. I was never created, right? I never destroyed, right? I'm energy. Energy can't be created, it can't be destroyed. But here's the problem with that for me, Sammy. Energy, right? And a lot of people on watching this, they're going to say, you, your unc, you told us we was energy a long time. But, you know, I'm a prophet. And a lot of times I give you information. If I gotta give you new information above the information. So I want everybody watching this to understand they're not energy, right? Because this possess energy, right? The problem is we all energy, right? And everybody understand that we got energy
Gary
in us, some stronger than us, but.
Michael
But what we cannot know after we die, if that energy is conscious. So energy and consciousness have to be two different things, right? Because this have energy in it, right? Or everything's conscious. Is conscious different, right? The world may never know, right? But I don't here to tell everybody right now that you're not energy. You something more and more than energy, right? You something more, more than numbers. You something more, more than this, right? What you are is something that cannot be created and cannot be destroyed. You're locked in prison and you locked in prison by your father.
Gary
At least. I know my father.
Michael
I know mine too. We got, we got, we got the same daddy. We got. Listen, we got the same daddy.
Gary
I think we got a little different daddy, bro.
Unk
We got a little different. And we definitely got a different mama.
Michael
We got the same daddy, got different size dicks, right? Mine just bigger than yours, right? Everybody know, everybody know.
Unk
Everybody know this.
Michael
Everybody know if I whip my dick,
Gary
yeah.
Unk
I mean, I pull, I'm a big ass.
Michael
Ain't nobody gonna see that. I got a. You know what?
Unk
My dick keeps getting bigger because my bank account gets.
Gary
Keep getting bigger. When your bank account gets bigger, your dick gets bigger because all that's all the women care about.
Michael
For real. Listen, you know what I got, I
Unk
can almost, I could almost, I could almost agree, right?
Michael
Cuz, Rush, Russians, everybody know they black. Everybody know. Yeah, yeah.
Unk
We are the white nationals. We are the white. No doubt.
Michael
Everybody know you no doubt. No one in the world is white and no one in the world is black, right? Everybody in the world is part of the same race. And we are the race of melanated people, right? Listen, if they wanted to get out the firmament right now, now what they was doing was they was doing this, right? And I don't know how they was doing it, but Elon Musk was doing this. The sun is so hot, so it wouldn't burn. They was coating the ships and melon, right? Just to get out, right? To get close to the sun. Cuz this is the protection from the sun. Cuz it absorbs the light, it absorbs everything, right? So I don't think you understand it, but it absorbed. You don't know what to do with it. I'm just going to say this, right? I'm going to say this to you. I'm going to say this and I'm going to say this for real. After our last encounter, I go back to Internet, I look at the comments and I see people like talking, you know, crazy about you. I'm like, damn, this is the same guy that after we left, we, you know, we smoke. Yeah, exactly, everything. But I'm gonna say this right though. We got different ideas of this reality here, right? Neither one of us could never be wrong, right? We had to wait till we die to find out.
Gary
Well, you know, in this virtual reality there's some things. There are absolute certainties. Number one, you're gonna pay. Pay taxes, right? Some Way, you're going to pay taxes. Whether you're dead or alive, you're going to pay taxes, right? Number two, women gonna play you. And a white man, women, women gonna play you. And the last thing is, numbers do not lie.
Michael
Numbers.
Gary
So. So, so while. While we're not gonna understand who the prime creator is because he's right. We. We can't even comprehend what the very top of the food chain is because we don't own. You use like 10% of her brain. Some people ate, you know, things of that nature.
Michael
Some people 100.
Gary
Like brother, brother, brother. If you were 100, you would be flying in the air. If you have a show me, maybe you got to hit that crowd.
Unk
Let's go.
Michael
When they ask Jesus. When the devil asked Jesus to show him on that mountain, did he show him? No, he didn't show him. Listen, I'm not here to do magic. I'm here to make a difference, right, bro?
Unk
You're tap t for your audience.
Gary
What are you talking about, bro? You're over here the entertain.
Unk
Listen, you're over here for tap talking
Michael
about everything he said that I know I can do. But it won't be revealed to me until the moment when it's time for me to do it.
Gary
For God's sake, you work for Adam22, a cuck. What are you talking about, bro? That was your employer. You work.
Unk
You work for the biggest degenerate in this space. That's how you got clout. You got clout by going to the goddamn devil himself. And you over here preaching. Get the out of here, bro. What are you talking about?
Gary
You work for Adam22 too. You can't get no lower than that.
Michael
You got to go down to get up, right? A lot of people know this, right? Listen.
Gary
Yo, yo, Muslims go down five times a day. Homosexuals go down a couple times a day, too. What are you talking about, man?
Michael
I'm not talking about the type of down you're talking about. I'm talking about the type of down that you probably won't understand the type of downs you is right now. Still think you up you down in your mentality, right? I don't think you understand this. I don't think you understand the world that we live in. Let me say this right? When it come to Adam22, I'd rather work for Adam22 than believe in Adam and Eve, right? I'd rather do that.
Gary
Yeah, you believe in Adam and Steve.
Unk
Is that where we're.
Michael
No, no, it could be. It could be. Listen, I'M gonna tell you this right. If it, it, it gotta understand this. It cannot never be what you think. It can never be what I think. It only could be what is. And what is what anybody think it is. What? I know numbers.
Gary
I know God code. I know what he's telling us.
Michael
I can read it.
Gary
You can't. You're illiterate to the real language.
Michael
You don't know God. If you knew God, then you act different. Listen, I'm gonna say this right.
Gary
You can't act like you. Is that why I act? Tell me. Preach, brother.
Michael
I don't even know. I don't even know what we doing here, right? It's like I never get through to you. You would never understand God.
Unk
Why you stay talking to him.
Michael
Listen, listen, I'm gonna say this right. It is coming down now.
Gary
And you got a couple questions for us, man. So we could get somewhere with this interview.
Michael
We. We already got somewhere. Soon as the energy got you stuck here, you was already stuck. Or you tried to leave and couldn't leave. You can't escape this massacre. N. You couldn't escape. You tried to run, you tried to hide and you couldn't even run and hide. I walked up and pulled up and saw you here. You had to face me no matter what you wanted to do. So you're gonna finish this no matter what you like.
Gary
I yeah, saw someone you had to face. I can get clips and content off and I will use you.
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Gary
Any way I want to to get what I want. So at the end of the day, say I ain't on it. But you my. When it comes to content.
Michael
Stop playing with me. Listen.
Gary
Get some.
Michael
What's that word? We're looking for a civil civilization. Civil. What's that word?
Gary
Yeah, get some.
Michael
Civilization. No, civilized. Let's get civilized in this.
Podcast Host
You guys might be soul mates.
Michael
So come on, guys. I'm not gay. Listen. I'm not gay. Listen, we know who.
Unk
You guys agree on that.
Michael
No, we know. We don't agree on that. We know who invented gay, right? Who invented it?
Unk
Yeah, yeah.
Michael
Who's me and the booty. Booty first, right? I got a booty feel.
Commercial Narrator
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Michael
Y' all like that, yo?
Unk
Yeah, man.
Michael
Yeah.
Gary
I got two kids. He's suspect, bro. Right? You got. You got any kids? You got a wife?
Michael
Listen.
Gary
Exactly, everybody. You the son. Well, hold on. You got a boyfriend?
Michael
Let me. Let me answer everybody on this. On this plane.
Gary
Maybe you should go to San Francisco.
Michael
Everybody here was born a God. Have a human experience. Nobody have kids, right? You can't have a kid. Everybody.
Gary
I got two kids.
Michael
No, you don't.
Gary
You think you do.
Michael
And that's why your kids. No, you think you.
Gary
They're gonna.
Unk
They're gonna never have kids dominate this world just like I have.
Michael
If you had kids, kids should do what you said say, right?
Unk
Well, when they do what I say,
Michael
he'd never do it. I say do what you say in your face as soon as you turn your back. Do what the they want, right? Because they gotta have a human experience. Whatever experience they choose, they will do.
Gary
That's the women around you.
Unk
Because you can't control your world. Me brother, that's the world in my circle right now. Fake an interviewer right now. This gonna leave out this. Do some mushrooms. He's faking like an interviewer right now. Write stuff down. It's a mask. Everybody wear a mask. You fake it like you do numbers. But when you go home, you not Gary the number man. You gotta Gary the Man. Everybody change repeatedly. I gotta be Gary the man to have two kids where you're at.
Michael
What I'm talking about?
Unk
What I'm talking about. Where your kids at?
Michael
Listen, I have no kids. Everybody is God. Have a human experience. How can I have a kid? How can I tame a God?
Gary
So what we have here is a guy who's a verifier crackhead. A guy who had won't admit he has kids. We don't know if he's even straight. So I don't know if you're a stranger straight, a homosexual.
Unk
You got your Paid, I mean straight the same.
Gary
No, no one is second class citizen, bro. No go straight to hell.
Unk
No one goes. No, no, they all get to the same place. Whether you gay or straight.
Michael
If you don't understand where you live at, you coming back in this reality. Listen, I'm telling people this, everybody watching this. I don't give a your diet. I don't give a if you don't eat pork. I don't give a if you a vegan.
Gary
Do you eat pork?
Michael
I don't give a.
Unk
Well, do you eat pork? The only thing you got to do you eat pork.
Michael
Mind from do you eat pork?
Unk
Yes or no?
Michael
I don't even eat food.
Gary
The bro, bro, bro, listen, I understand the clownish behavior for real, I don't eat food.
Michael
No, I don't eat food, right? Listen, I'm going keep it real, right?
Gary
You haven't ate anything?
Michael
No.
Gary
When's the last time you ate something?
Michael
Let me say something. I, I, I, I eat omad.
Gary
What do you feed off the sun?
Michael
Yeah, feed off the sun most of the day. You eat, drink water most of the day. But water's not really good for you. Water was good for you. Why they can't give it to the babies, right? Listen, you never seen a baby born to drink water, right? Water city.
Unk
What are you doing, bro? The baby create his own water so
Michael
the baby don't need water.
Unk
You want kids to know this? Find me a baby. Listen, anybody watching this, Find me a baby that drink water. You can't, you can't find me a
Michael
baby that drink water because the baby can't drink water. Because water is poisonous poison, right? You supposed to eat your water, your water supposed to be done, delivered to
Unk
you through your food.
Michael
But everybody went around drinking water, you know, they did back in the days. Back in the day, they didn't drink water that they steam they self to get the water in their body, right? People understand this. People don't understand. It's like right now, you know water at right now, you think the best water is here, right? What if I tell you the best water was here?
Unk
You know where the best water is, right? Comes out of here, right here.
Michael
That's where the best, that's what I mean, right? You got to leave the best water is in here, right? Meaning that you could take some copper, take some fans, and you can pull water from right here. And the water you pull right here is better than any other water. A lot of people understand this, right? We live underwater, right? A lot of people understand this. Yeah, we Live underwater. I know you looking and you don't understand that we live underwater. But you got to understand spongebob wasn't a cartoon, right?
Unk
We live under water.
Gary
You know when people do drugs, they start believing spongebob is real. They start believing their profits. They start going around here about what?
Unk
What is a millionaire? No, no. Enough games, enough games bro.
Gary
This is for entertainment purposes.
Unk
Oh, this is a funny guy, bro.
Gary
I like him.
Unk
You could get content.
Gary
But if you're watching this podcast and taking this guy seriously, you are, you're going to be in poverty for the rest of your life. Not just wealth wise, but spiritual poverty. Because the main better off rock a spirituality is to have a strong family unit. My energy is going to go into my kids, my ancestors energy is within me right now. Right? And if you don't actually protect your energy and tell the women in your family to keep their legs closed, make sure they're good to their husbands. If you don't have that, none of
Michael
this spiritual matters, what can you ask my family?
Unk
Bloodline pure bro.
Michael
Okay, question was you always good? Did you ever do anything bad in your life?
Gary
Yeah, I knocked out a cop when I was like 20.
Michael
He said he passed on everything good to the child. And I agree. You did.
Unk
And when I run for President of the United States of America, I'm gonna get half the black vote because I knocked out a cop.
Michael
Hold up. In the 1990s he said, he said he passed on everything good to his children and they're going to follow in his footsteps. I love that. Cuz he saying the truth. But he forgot one thing. He also passed on his bad. Now it's a child choice to choose between the two, right? A lot of people understand this, right? The child have a choice at the end of the day to do what it decides to do.
Gary
The karma of the father goes to the son.
Michael
I agree.
Gary
The karma of the father does pass on to the sons. But the karma of the women and the mothers does not pass on to the sons.
Michael
Does not pass on.
Gary
That's why women are unaccountable. Their karma levels are not to the same as men. Men get held accountable whether it's through the legal system or the spiritual system.
Unk
Women do not. We are not the same.
Michael
Do you understand this? That what he's saying is true. But let me say this. Everything could be changed. You could change your DNA, you could change your go back to the transformers. No, no. You can change everything in your body by simply understanding your mind. That your mind controls your body. Right? People do it all the time. Let me tell you what I mean. Before, before I started on my journey, I had high blood pressure, I had a whole lot of different kind of diseases in my body.
Gary
Crack, we'll do that to you.
Michael
Listen. But as I cleanse my body, my mind cleansed my body. So them diseases is gone. And it's hereditary. It's in my family. I have changed my family, genetics, myself, right? And I don't take medication, I don't do anything, right. It's because I have changed it with the power of my mind. So everything he say is true if you live in this reality. But here's the problem. We live in a lot of different realities at once, right? And that's what people hard for people to not understand. Because it's not that what he's saying is false, it's just that we understand that the reality that we live in is not the only reality. Something on this reality and everything proves it. Because under matter is something they never understand. And that's energy. That means there's more than one world here, right? So we live in one world. It's stuff you need to know for the matter world. And it's stuff you need to know for the spiritual world. But you don't understand. When you depend on just a spiritual world, you crazy. When you depend on just the matter world, you crazy. You have to use both facts.
Gary
Let me, let me break this down for you. You are not going to get the spiritual right until you get the material 100%.
Michael
That's true.
Gary
You cannot be a spiritual group and still have, have a nine to five.
Michael
That's true.
Gary
So true. Here's what it comes down to.
Unk
He says a truth make, make your
Gary
bag be free in life, free the people around you and then go on that spiritual journey. Because without this, without this materialism, you'll never get the magic.
Michael
Let me, let me say it in different kind of way so people can understand. Cuz what he said was true. Saying it reflect. If you pour on the outside, I mean you pour on the inside, right? If you are a good spiritual person inside. And like people saying, oh man, like say this bullshit like I'm good on the inside. No you're not. If you were pure on the inside, your outside will be pure. You have plenty of that, right? Because you don't understand. You reflect what you are from the inside. So this man says something that really made sense. But the way he said it was fucking poor. He said it in a fucked up way. He said it in an egotistical type way.
Gary
I said in a way to get fucking people mad, to get them motivated. Motivated. I'm not gonna sugarcoat things. I'm gonna go out there, tell people,
Unk
struggle, go out there, work.
Gary
And then when they get older like me, they can afford to dye their hair from all the gray hairs they have because they got this. They can afford to retire their mothers, they can afford to better the people in their lives. They can bring business deals and help their.
Unk
You lose your soul.
Gary
I have.
Unk
What's the point of getting the world
Gary
when you lose yourself and lose my soul.
Unk
That's what I help get other people. Gain a fucking soul. That's what I did. I'm a soul reaper.
Michael
Oh yeah, you get it right, you get it right, but you don't get it at all. And you would never get it right. You would never get it because you would never understand that is your God right there on that.
Gary
This is my. You get it? This is my. I do what I want. And this is being used as a tool to get me what I want, right?
Michael
Let me find out. He paid you that and didn't pay me?
Gary
No, no one pays me.
Michael
Yeah, I with you.
Gary
No, hey, listen, listen, listen. All the people who hate me, I don't give a me and him right after this going to go out there and smoke a joint and start calling.
Unk
Oh, how much are we going to make off this?
Michael
Cuz the truth. Truth tell you this right? Somebody told me this right? I'm going to tell you this right? Do me him get along? Yes. But here no. I'm tell you why. Because content I have to let him know no contact. Content.
Gary
Content, baby, no, I keep it real.
Michael
Listen, if this was right here and it doesn't belong it's my job to move it out the way. So I'm just here to clear the energy. I'm here to show him way way to put his energy right. I'm the prophet of the creator.
Gary
I'm curious. Do you put this like this?
Michael
Do you.
Gary
Do you have this like this?
Michael
You better be careful with your hand.
Gary
Oh, take pictures baby. I'm just curious. Do you, do you do. Oh, I'll give it to you this your precious. He wants his precious.
Podcast Host
No one's ever touched it before.
Gary
Really?
Podcast Host
Other than him?
Michael
No.
Gary
Oh, damn. Better weed, bro.
Podcast Host
Got the sage in there.
Gary
Get some better weed. But the reason he always points the reason he always points this out at because it's not to stare is because he wants to look at the behind. Because he's behind the demon.
Podcast Host
Damn he's like that guy from Lord of the Rings. That hobbit.
Gary
A black hobbit. Oh. Oh, hey, the grippers already cursed me. They got a whole bunch richer, man. So I think I'm gonna have a good day at the sports book.
Podcast Host
You about to be canceled.
Gary
This. This is my.
Michael
Yeah. Consider that your last man meal.
Podcast Host
Well, guys, that was fun. Part three will be on UN's channel.
Michael
How's that fun? That a. That ain't.
Podcast Host
I had a good time. I laughed, you know.
Michael
This is not funny.
Gary
You know, it would be good if he actually painted his fingernails on air. I think we get some.
Michael
This is not funny. Listen, it's funny the fact that every time I come here, I can never teach him nothing, right? Because the mind can't learn.
Gary
You don't have a mind to teach a guy like me, who's up there with Jesus and Muhammad anything, brother. You're beneath me. But guess what? We can still get along because I take pity and people beneath man.
Michael
Listen, I'm say this. Shout out to Jesus, Buddhas and Confucius.
Gary
Oh.
Podcast Host
All right, guys, part three on UNC's channel. Check out the link below. See you guys.
Gary
Peace.
Podcast Host
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Michael
Thank you.
Gary
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Date: February 22, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guests: Gary “the Numbers Guy,” Michael, Unk
In this riotously unfiltered episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly brings together three uniquely provocative guests—Gary the Numbers Guy, Michael, and Unk—for a no-holds-barred debate on race, numerology, consciousness, masculinity, religion, family, and the “prison planet” called America. The conversation veers through cosmic philosophy, biting insults, theories on identity and society, and a running battle over whose worldview is more “real.” If you’re seeking a raw, controversial exchange that blurs the line between spiritual performance art and streetwise banter, this is an episode you won’t forget.
Raw, combative, philosophical, irreverent, and at times absurdist. The rapid-fire exchanges, use of sarcasm, and blending of esoteric ideas with street logic kept the tone edgy. Each guest tries to “win” the argument, but occasionally reveals mutual respect beneath the surface-level hostility—especially in their recognition that they’re ultimately performing for the audience and for “the content.”
If you're looking for a traditional interview, this episode will jar your expectations. It's part spiritual battle, part roast, and part performance art, exploring race, masculinity, numerology, and the human condition through candid, politically incorrect, and often philosophical dialogue. Amidst the chaos, flashes of insight pierce through, especially as the hosts grapple with the contradictions of identity, family, and what it means to “win” at life—materially or spiritually.
Check out the next segment (Part 3) on Unk's channel for more from this explosive series.