Gordie Gronkowski: Game-Changing Red Light Tech You Need in 2025 | DSH #1431

Summary

Digital Social Hour – Episode #1431

"Gordie Gronkowski: Game-Changing Red Light Tech You Need in 2025"

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Gordie Gronkowski
Date: July 3, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode features Gordie Gronkowski, entrepreneur and member of the famed Gronkowski family, joining host Sean Kelly for an unfiltered discussion. The wide-ranging conversation covers everything from casino stories, poker strategies, and Gronk family traditions, to innovations in wellness tech, reflections on minor league sports, and thoughts on AI. Expect candid anecdotes, humorous banter, and a few surprising insights into both the business and personal worlds of Gordie.

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Key Topics and Insights

1. Poker Stories, Gambling Culture, and Casino Life

• Poker Tournaments and Notable Players
  Gordie recounts a recent final table run where he competed with “Princess Love,” known for consistently making poker finals.
  • Memorable quote: “Princess Love, literally, like, last time I was here a year ago, she was at my table…final table again, but she looked a lot different.” (B, 01:10)
  • Gordie questions claimed poker winnings and the hype around “self-proclaimed” numbers. (02:08)
• Consulting for Wynn and Encore Casinos
  • Gordie describes being one of only 30 licensed outside reps for Encore Casino in Boston:
    • “I was the first one ever in the world to get my license to be an outside rep for the Encore casino in Boston.” (B, 02:33)

2. Wild Living & Gronkowski Stories

• Apartment Antics
  • Gordie shares a story about a roommate getting stuck on a six-story roof overnight, highlighting their party lifestyle and the architectural quirks of their living space. (03:31–04:16)
  • Banter about near-misses and risky jumps, recalling high school days sneaking out via rooftops. (04:27–05:06)

3. Wellness Innovations: Red Light Tech

• Product Spotlight: Therasage
  • The conversation shifts to new biohacking tools, featuring a detailed look at Therasage’s red light therapy panel (Tri Light), ozone module (Thera O3), and hydrogen water bottle (Thera H2 Go).
    • Memorable quote: “Medical grade red and near infrared light with three frequencies per light. Deep healing, real results and totally portable.” (D, 05:40)
  • Discussion about the science and daily use of these devices, with special mention to ease of travel and benefits: “It’s like carrying clean energy wherever you go.” (D, 06:54)

4. Family and Sports Talk

• Gronkowski Family Poker Games
  • The Gronkowski brothers play poker for fun, never for serious money.
  • “We just play for fun and, like, bluff each other out. Just being silly.” (B, 08:42)
• Sports Memories
  • Favorite NBA memories, including seeing Shaq play for the Phoenix Suns.
  • “The point guards are now, like, six, seven…they’re all way bigger beast than me.” (B, 12:25)
• Iconic Moments and the Role of Instant Replay
  • Recalling the infamous Buffalo Sabres hockey loss due to a controversial unreviewed goal.
  • “No one reviewed it. So back then, where’s the review?” (B, 12:22–13:11)

5. Tech & Culture: Thoughts on AI

• Playing With AI
  • Both express fascination and wariness about artificial intelligence.
    • Memorable quote: “I’m scared to piss it off, though, because I feel like it’ll develop some consciousness eventually.” (C, 13:46)
• AI and The Vegas Party Scene
  • They jokingly use AI to find the best parties in Vegas, with Gronk Beach ranking #3.
    • “That’s number three.” (C, 15:00)
    • “How's that like number two, though? That should be number one.” (B, 15:01)

6. Entrepreneurial Adventures & Shark Tank

• Ice Shaker Success Story
  • Gordie talks about his brother’s invention of the Ice Shaker and their appearance on Shark Tank.
  • “All five sharks invested.” (B, 16:20)
  • Memorable moment: Gordie sat on Barbara Corcoran’s lap, and she offered “a million dollars just to party with you guys.” (B, 16:48)
• The Reality of Minor League Sports
  • Discusses the financial hardships of minor league baseball: “No, I made 900 bucks a month in the minor leagues. Like, that was the average overall.” (B, 17:32)
  • Mention of class-action suits and how legal settlements rarely benefit players.

7. Health, Recovery, and Staying Active

• Back Surgeries and New Recovery Techniques
  • Gordie describes his recent back procedure using a billion exosomes for disc repair:
    • “They seal your disc…sealed off the hole for the jelly donut. As long as you don't do anything crazy, it'll stop leaking all the fluid.” (B, 18:13–18:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On “Princess Love” Poker Skills:
  “Every time I see her, she makes a final table.” (C, 01:19)

• Casino Consultant Origin Story:
  “I was the first one ever in the world to get my license to be an outside rep for the Encore casino in Boston.” (B, 02:33)

• On Poker Strategy:
  “Odds were probably a little less. He had Ace 4, I had King 9. Damn. King 9. I have a lot of options there. Throw me some high cards besides the ace, and I probably got it and I would have won that pot.” (B, 07:45)

• On Playing for Fun:
  “We just play for fun and, like, bluff each other out. Just being silly.” (B, 08:42)

• AI Paranoia:
  “I’m scared to piss it off, though, because I feel like it’ll develop some consciousness eventually.” (C, 13:46)

• Shark Tank Highlight:
  “I sat on Barbara’s lap…she’s like, I’ll give a million dollars just to party with you guys.” (B, 16:45)

• Minor League Struggles:
  “I made 900 bucks a month in the minor leagues…” (B, 17:32)

• Cutting Back After Back Surgery:
  “As long as you don’t do anything crazy, it'll stop leaking all the fluid.” (B, 18:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---------|-------|-----------| | Poker, Princess Love, Gambling | 00:43 – 02:29 | | Casino Consultant Story | 02:33 – 03:15 | | Party Stories, Roommate on Roof | 03:31 – 04:16 | | Risky Jumps and High School Shenanigans | 04:27 – 05:06 | | Therasage/Red Light Tech | 05:40 – 07:42 | | Gronk Family Poker, Fun VS Serious | 08:38 – 09:14 | | Roulette and Gambling Odds | 09:25 – 10:31 | | NBA & Sports Reflections | 11:23 – 12:25 | | AI, Tech Banter | 13:27 – 14:13 | | Vegas Party via AI, Gronk Beach | 14:18 – 15:12 | | Shark Tank & Ice Shaker Story | 16:07 – 16:45 | | Minor League Struggles | 17:17 – 17:58 | | Back Surgery & Recovery | 18:10 – 18:39 |

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Tone and Style

The episode is lively, candid, and packed with friendly banter, fond reminiscence, and “behind the scenes” entrepreneurial energy. Gordie delights in telling stories with a mix of self-deprecation, pride, and humor, while Sean keeps the pace informal and ensures the conversation stays honest and lively.

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For New Listeners

If you’re looking for honest stories from the Gronkowski world, including struggles, wins, business ventures, and a splash of sports nostalgia, this episode is entertaining and insightful. There’s ample inspiration for entrepreneurs and sports fans alike—plus a crash course in the latest biohacking gadgets you’ll want to check out in 2025.

Transcript

[A]

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Small blinder fold, big blindfolds.

[B]

That's a lot of money. And then I'm knocking everyone out, you know? So I was like, let me think this out quick. But if I didn't call it or go all in, then they would have probably folded. Or if they have a better hand than me, I can't go all in. So it's like, I gotta do it.

I can't believe.

[C]

Another final table run, bro.

[B]

I know. That was insane.

[C]

Well done.

[B]

And Princess Love, literally, like, last time I was here a year ago, she was at my table that we started with. She's at the final table again, but she looked a lot different.

[C]

Every time I see her, she makes a final table.

[B]

Like, I don't get it. How much money is she making these days? She's just hustling people.

[C]

I swear, I feel like guys underestimate girls, too.

[B]

I mean, I don't under mess or whoa. I don't estimate them because I was next to Emma and she is actually playing. Unbelievable. She was hustling people hard.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. She got knocked out, which I was actually hoping that she was the final table, too. She was doing great.

But that was crazy, like, because Princess was, like, three down from her, and I'm like, whoa, you're at the final table again? She's like, yeah. Yeah. Damn. I didn't know. She actually is, like, kind of pro.

[C]

Yeah, she's like that, man.

[B]

How much she been making these days?

[C]

She said half a mil. Her first year in poker. Yeah. Which is here. I don't know where the hell she's playing, but.

[B]

Yeah. But who really knows that number?

[C]

Yeah, I guess you can't verify it, right?

[B]

Yeah. Who's verifying that she made half a million this year in poker Hustling guys or people? Yeah. That's wild.

[C]

It's such a round number. It's almost.

[B]

I know. That is true, right?

[C]

Yeah. That is around, like, half a million. Exactly. Half a million.

[B]

Yeah, Half a million. Like, it just lands on that Number. And that's how much. That's why I was asking you. I was just trying to like, figure it out. That's wild.

[C]

It's self proclaimed, so we got to take it as is. But you've been gambling a lot otherwise?

[B]

No, I don't really gamble that much. Like, I love being a consultant for the Wynn casinos and Encore casino in Boston. There's only like 30 of us that actually have our license to do it. It's hard. Yeah. It's actually insane, to be honest. Like, I was the first one ever in the world to get my license to be an outside rep for the Encore casino in Boston.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And I think it was Steve Wynn's lawyer who bought Rob and I's condo right before COVID Which we were very thankful for. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Because it was timing on that.

[B]

But you know what? He might have made more money now. I don't know. But I feel like he might not have. That place is unreal. The only thing I didn't like about it is you could hear everything in there.

[C]

Oh, fuck that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So you can't even have sex without the person next to you hearing it.

[B]

That's just what everyone in the hallway was saying. That we're partying, rocking way too hard.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't feel like it was that hard. And they could hear us.

[C]

I need my privacy, man.

[B]

Yeah. And we have the roof deck. Like, you walk up the spiral staircase and actually the funniest thing ever in the world. One of my roommates was living in the guest bedroom. And I'm like, I woke up in the morning, I'm looking around, I'm like, whoa, where is this kid? But his phone was on the guest bedroom. Like, literally laying there.

Clicked in my mind. He's stuck on the roof.

[C]

What?

[B]

Yeah. There was no key, like once you go on the roof to actually get back inside. And there was a blanket up there.

I walked up, I was like, how did you literally, like, make it through the whole night?

[C]

Geez.

[B]

Yeah. He'll tell you straight up. He's like, you just saved me pretty much. Because it was like almost. Not mid winter, but right after winter.

[C]

That's cold.

[B]

What's cold?

[C]

How high is the jump?

[B]

If he didn't have. Yeah, exactly. It was six stories. Damn. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. You would have been goner.

[B]

I'm glad he didn't do it.

[C]

I almost jumped off a two story roof once.

[B]

For what?

[C]

I got locked in my bedroom in my house, and my dad was blasting music in the basement so he couldn't hear Me screaming and banging on the door.

[B]

I felt like like two stories. Not that crazy. I feel like I did it and I landed it. Good.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like like back in the high school days, you know, where you feel like, oh my gosh, if like this person sees your shoes, you gotta leave.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like their dad and I did it.

[C]

Nothing broke?

[B]

No.

[C]

Damn. Two stories, that's like what, 20ft? So that's like three of you.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's really two.

[C]

Yeah, for me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess three stories is where it gets sketchy.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

You know.

[B]

Yeah. After two gets sketchy.

[C]

What a funny conversation.

[B]

Yeah, it actually is.

[C]

Damn. I didn't know you were leaving.

[B]

If I lost that, I was actually like. Once again I'm at the hand. You know what? So what I was looking at during the hand is the kid went all in early and he was low on chips too, so he kind of had to force it. I was like, his hand's not like maybe like low pocket pair. No problem. I have two over pair. But he pushed it and then I was on the button.

[D]

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[C]

It's sleek, portable, and honestly, I don't.

[D]

Go anywhere without it.

[B]

And I was like, the small blindfold, big blindfolds, that's a lot of money. And then I'm knocking everyone out, you know, So I was like, let me think this out quick. But if I didn't call it or go all in, then they would have probably folded. Or if they have a better hand than me, I can't go all in. So I was like, I got to do it. Odds were probably a little less. He had Ace 4, I had King 9. Damn. King 9. I have a lot of options there. Throw me some high cards besides the ace, and I probably got it and I would have won that pot. And I feel like I would have came in top three if I won that.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. I was just playing odds at that point. So, you know, can't hope for aces every hand.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[C]

So you know the numbers well, though, on hands?

[B]

I mean, I don't know, like the numbers like that, But I knew a little bit, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was like, let's go for it.

[C]

Who's the best poker player in the Gronkon family? Who's won the most?

[B]

Oh, my gosh. That's actually crazy because we don't, like, play for money like that. We just play for fun and, like, bluff each other out. Just being silly.

[C]

I feel like when it's not real money, you don't play serious.

[B]

Exactly. That kind of wasn't real money, but it was. Right? Right.

[C]

I mean, no buy in technically. I mean, you could still win money.

[B]

They gave me some cash, I think. Right. Let me look at.

[C]

I think you got like 2k or whatever.

Oh, they paid you in chips?

[B]

Yeah. Is that real money or is that just chips.

[C]

That's real money.

[B]

Can you throw chips out tonight or can you only do real money?

[C]

You can pay in chips at restaurants and.

[B]

Wow. Okay, then I'll do it.

[C]

You're gonna double that after this.

[B]

Where should we go? One hand and then say that one way. Double the amount. Here we go. All right, so if I do roulette, should I do red or black?

[C]

Let's go red. Don't do triple zero, though. Don't do a triple zero Roulette.

[B]

So last time I did roulette, they said not to do it, and that's what hit.

[C]

Really? Yeah, they said not to do triple zero.

[B]

It hit.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

I lost all my money. You know those new things, like, on social media where you can do. They're like, you do this, this, this, and then, like, you're good. You're going to win 82% of the time.

[C]

Oh, the strategy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You've seen it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I did the strategy. Not once, not twice. Three times. Triple zero. Lost the other strategy. Single zero.

[C]

Damn. And you're supposed to win 82%.

[B]

How ridiculous is that?

[C]

Crazy ridiculous is that I don't like roulette. I do not like roulette.

[B]

Oh, I know.

[C]

Stick to blackjack, right?

[B]

Red or black? Like 50%. I should have just did that.

[C]

I mean, it's not even 50, though, on a triple zero board.

[B]

Really.

[C]

I mean, because each zero is a 3% edge.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. So it's like, what, 42?

[C]

Yeah. It's low, man.

[B]

46, my baseball number.

[C]

That's almost as bad as slots.

[B]

Damn. I don't like that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Holy smokes. I don't like losing. Like, I'm actually upset I lost that king nine hand. Like, I'm, like, in my mind right now. I want to go back out there. I got kicked off the, like, final table. Everyone knew I was going to make it there. It was just. I need a little bit of, like, if I win that, I win it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[C]

Yeah. Because poker is all about momentum. In Torn.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You win a hand like that, you're a chip leader. You're bullying people. You're gonna start playing bully ball. You're a bully, aren't you?

[B]

I would have. Yeah. Well, now I am. But not his brothers. I wasn't. Yeah, yeah. You got bullied pretty much. For my younger brothers.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

That's why I was the baseball player and they all played in the NFL. I know.

[C]

They had more size than you. Yeah.

[B]

I'm the leanest and not meanest.

[C]

Yeah, you're the nicest. Do nice guys finish last?

[B]

I'm just not going to answer that.

[C]

You've been following these NBA playoffs?

[B]

Not really.

[C]

Nah.

[B]

All I've seen is like, oh, the Knicks are so great because there was no NBA team in Buffalo, New York, where we were born and raised. I'm like, okay, cool. So the first NBA game I ever went to, Shaq, was on the Suns. The Phoenix Suns. You remember that back in the day.

[C]

He was washed by then, right?

[B]

I mean, I don't think Shaq was ever really washed. Maybe their team was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But, you know, I was like, dang, Shaq's a beast. You know, I went there boxy, thought it was so cool, and it was. But what I appreciated was the how fast the game is when you're down near the court and how big these guys are. They look so slow on tv, you know? So I was like, it's not that crazy when you watch it. You're like here and there throughout your, like, growing up career. And I was like, whoa, this is awful. You know? And then I was like, well, these guys are massive. I am short compared to almost every NBA guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The point guards are now like, six, seven.

[C]

Crazy.

[B]

Yeah. They're taller than me. And I'm like, damn, I'm a beast. And they're all way bigger beast than me. So I went to the game, I was like, you know what? The way they're playing right now, I never seen that growing up. I was always like, hockey. Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Sabres went to the final game when Brett hall scored the winning goal in the crease, which should never have happened because the law was at the time, or the rule was. I shouldn't say law, but the rule, you can't have your skates in the crease when you score. No one reviewed it. So back then, where's the review? You know what I mean? Where's the review? So if they actually reviewed it, they would have still been playing. And who knows if Sabres would have won. Maybe not, because they were down three to two at the time versus Dallas. But you just never know.

[C]

One of those sports what if moments, right?

[B]

One missed call, and that might have been Brett Hall's, like, career now, like, I want it. I'm out.

[C]

Yeah. Crazy.

[B]

And he was an insane hockey player at the time.

[C]

Yeah. Now every sport has a review. Right now they're reviewing fouls. You could challenge it in that.

[B]

Dude, literally, with AI, you can just like, hey, you're doing this right now. And that's what it's going to do as a Sean Kelly.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm doing AI on a microphone.

[C]

What's the wildest thing you've asked AI?

[B]

I don't even know. That's actually wild.

[C]

AI is pretty nuts, man.

[B]

Yeah, it is.

[C]

I've been fucking around with it. I'm scared to piss it off, though, because I feel like it'll develop some consciousness eventually.

[B]

Yeah, that's actually wild that you even think of that, because I do, too. And I'm now doing, like, the new stuff with AI, and I don't even get it. Like, it's so insane. Like, the responses I get so fast, like, hey, should I dance in Party Rock? What would the response be? Should we look it up?

[C]

Yeah, dance to party Rock.

[B]

No. Yeah, let's dance and party all night in Vegas. Like, what would it respond to?

[C]

It would probably be like, I'll join you.

[B]

Oh, I'll join you. Let's go to a Gronk beach party.

[C]

Oh, yo, what if I asked, what's the best party in Vegas? You think Gronk beach would come up?

[B]

Should we do it?

[C]

Yeah, I might have to do that.

[D]

All right, let me stop the app right now.

[B]

What's the best party you can go to in Vegas?

[C]

Chat gbt.

What's the best. Actually, what's the best party you can go to in Vegas? Las Vegas?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Over the super bowl, maybe?

[C]

Or over WWE on Super bowl weekend?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

That has a pool. Oh, I. Oh, no, you didn't say that. Yeah.

[C]

Let's see though.

It might come up. Dude, Gronk beach, yo.

That's number three.

[B]

How's that? Like number two, though? That's should be number one.

[C]

Damn. Well done, man. Guy Fieri's Flavortown ticket.

[B]

That's right. That's pre game. I'm saying, like, cool party.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well done, guys. By the way, Guy and Hunter, the best. Speaking of that, I actually introduce Hunter to my friend Tara, and they're getting married.

[C]

Whoa.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So you're a little matchmaker on the side.

[B]

And I'm going their wedding soon.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Yeah, they're the best. Well, the whole family is amazing. Yeah.

[C]

Well done, man.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Yeah, I guess.

[B]

Where do we take this, by the way?

[C]

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[D]

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[C]

That's vodka Amnesia. Yeah. You could have that bottle for the plane. You could drink it.

[B]

You think they'll let me just carry it? On or I gotta. No, if you carry it on, you're definitely not like. Because if you're over, what, 4.2 now ounces?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I can't even put water. I can't even put water in my ice shaker.

[C]

Water in your ice shaker?

[B]

Yeah. When we were on shark tank in 2017.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Number one show.

[C]

Yeah. You sent me some of those. Those are lit, those ice shakers.

[B]

Thank you. I was wondering how you forgot about it.

[C]

Yeah. How'd that deal go?

[B]

Great. I mean, a rod and Mark Cuban invested. It was all five sharks invested.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Yeah. My brother Chris came up with the idea after playing for the Dallas Cowboys. And he's like, dude, I just need a bottle that's, like. Keeps my protein shakes cold. It's in your cup holder. You know, easy to flip, carry around. Next thing you know, we're in Shark Tank.

[C]

Let's go.

[B]

Yeah. Now he's killing it.

[C]

Who's your favorite shark to grab a beer with?

[B]

You know what? I sat on Barbara's lap. What? Yeah, I did. And she actually. Before, I. I think they played it after, she's like, I'll give a million dollars just to party with you guys. Damn. Yeah.

[C]

Invite her to Gronk Beach.

[B]

Barbara, where you at?

[C]

Let's go, Barbara. Gronk beach, step up.

[B]

Yeah. Especially at, like, that age and how good of shape she's in and takes care of herself and how she's hustling. She should come to Grind Beach. Yeah. She's got to live her life.

[C]

Absolutely. You know, you're in good, Ashe. Playing pickleball every two days.

[B]

I was until I just had, like, a crazy procedure recently. But what happened? Just all the back surgeries from, like, minor league baseball. You play pro baseball? You must have a lot of money. No, I made 900 bucks a month in the minor leagues. Like, that was the average overall.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

900Amonth.

[B]

Jesus.

[C]

Can't even live off that.

[B]

There was actually a big lawsuit about it that mlb, like, you know, made all this money because of it. Because. But who made out? The lawyers.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because whenever it's like, oh, here. Exactly. You get so, like, oh, here you go. Sign up for this. You'll make a little money. Like, what am I gonna make at that point?

[C]

Like, 500 bucks?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Whenever I get a class action email, I don't even sign up because I know I'll get.

[B]

Like, there's some that are actually legit, but most of them aren't.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially for me at that point, it's like, what am I gonna get? 500?

[C]

Yeah. What'd you get? You get some stem cells in the back or what happened?

[B]

Yeah, had over a billion exosomes in my back. So what they do, they call it this seal. They seal your disc. Think of it like a donut. Where? That look like a jelly donut. So they sealed off the hole for the jelly donut. As long as you don't do anything crazy, it'll stop leaking all the fluid. Yeah. So we went from, like, talking about party rocking to talking about back surgery.

[C]

That's my adhd, man.

[B]

Yeah, me too. I'm like, wow, this is crazy.

[C]

Well, man, it's been cool. I hope you win some money tonight. Been quick before.

[B]

Well, I kind of did, but I wanted to win more.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you can't just keep sitting there, like, folding every hand, you know? I'm trying to. I'm going for the kill. And at that point, I was just playing odds, and I made it to the final table again. But I did want that 5k.

[C]

The night is young. You could still win that.

[B]

Or I can go spend it now.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Good seeing you, dude.

[B]

Great times. Unbelievable.

[C]

That was insane.