Grant Cardone: He Bought a $2M House… Then Grant Did the Math | DSH #1761

Summary

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Digital Social Hour | Episode: Grant Cardone: He Bought a $2M House… Then Grant Did the Math (DSH #1761)

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Grant Cardone
Date: January 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid conversation, host Sean Kelly brings back entrepreneur and real estate mogul Grant Cardone for his third appearance on the show. True to Digital Social Hour’s ethos, the episode delivers unfiltered perspectives on wealth building, real estate, bitcoin, generational financial advice, family, and even personal relationships. Grant pulls no punches as he critiques common financial choices, reflects on mentorship and raising his daughter, and shares inside stories from his business life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Myth of Homeownership for Gen Z

• Grant’s Core Message: Young people should not be buying homes—they should rent instead.
  • [00:00, 08:09] “Gen Z shouldn’t buy a house… Like a house is not a thing people should be buying. They should rent.” (Grant Cardone)
• Grant gives a blunt financial breakdown for Sean, who recently bought a $2 million house:
  • After putting 20% down and carrying a 10% interest mortgage, Sean would pay $1.6 million in interest over 10 years and still owe the principal (“Your $400 grand’s dead. Earning nothing. You could have taken that $400 grand, bought Bitcoin.” – [09:04])
  • Renting, in Grant’s view, offers greater financial flexibility and less responsibility for taxes, maintenance, or long-term commitment.
• Notable quote:

  “You could have bought $400,000 of Bitcoin… instead you sold crypto to buy the house.” — Grant Cardone [09:15-09:29]

2. Real Estate & Bitcoin: Innovation Meets Security

• Grant’s Investment Strategy: Combining real estate assets with bitcoin holdings in a business model that creates a “moat” around his operation—something institutional giants can’t easily replicate due to regulatory constraints on REITs.
  • Recent $235 million Boca Raton purchase included 900 Bitcoin. [04:14–06:45]
  • The blend reduces bitcoin volatility and allows for major-scale innovation in an otherwise stale REIT market.
  • “The play here is not the bitcoin or the real estate. It's the REIT industry… putting real estate and bitcoin together, I have basically a moat around my business.” — Grant Cardone [06:22]
• Advice:

  “I’m not buying the bitcoin by itself because it’s so volatile. I keep telling people, leave that thing alone by itself, dude.” [05:11]

3. Predictions & Society: Renters Nation and Beyond

• Grant reminds Sean he predicted the rise of a “renters nation” years ago, as Gen Z becomes increasingly unable to afford homes and new financial products like 50-year mortgages emerge.
  • “You said we'd be a renters nation... Three years ago, you called it, they just announced a 50-year mortgage. Gen Z can't afford houses. You called that.” — Sean Kelly [08:01]

4. Family, Mentorship, & Education

• Grant is passionate about teaching his daughter, Sabrina, through real-life business experiences rather than formal schooling.
  • “She finished school at 15… homeschooled. She’ll go to my college.” [13:51–14:05]
  • Relates stories of involving her in high-stakes negotiations and litigation, teaching her to see through business situations and confront hard truths directly.
    • “My daughter’s like, he knew the whole time, the whole time he was lying.” [15:17–15:28]
    • “You can’t learn that in school, man. You can only learn it being in the game.” [15:37–15:38]
  • On not gatekeeping information from his kids:

    “No, nothing. She gets to see all of that. All of it.” — Grant Cardone [14:26]

5. Marriage, Business & Decision-Making

• Mixing Marriage and Business: Grant doesn’t recommend a spouse working within the same business if the husband is the founder/decision maker, sharing that clear roles and 100% commitment—rather than “50/50”—lead to better outcomes.
  • “You got to get 100% from her, 100% from you… She needs to give 100% what she’s good at… then you need to do what you’re good at.” [21:15–21:43]
• Grant shares that he’s decisive, disciplined, and prizes simplicity in both personal and professional decisions:
  • “I make decisions very quickly, and then another superpower is I make sure that decision works… I trust me, and I have a lot of discipline. I believe that is a superpower.” [22:39–23:04]
• On weaknesses: Even someone as successful as Grant admits to them—he’s not good at hiring or firing, which he delegates.

  “That’s not my superpower.” [22:34]

6. Keeping It Simple

• Grant credits much of his success to simplifying—cutting through trends (“putting real estate on the blockchain”—not necessary yet), and finding business innovations that are easy to understand, scale, and execute.
  • “I’m a very simple man. If it’s complicated, I don’t do it.” [23:43–23:56]
• On Entrepreneurship:

  “A lot of people try to come up with these complicated ideas of businesses these days. But you’re right about being simple. Keep it easy, right?” — Sean Kelly [24:33–24:43]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Homeownership:

  “So in 10 years, you will have paid $1.6 million in interest and you will still owe $1.6 million.” — Grant Cardone [08:53]

• Buying with Emotion vs. Logic:

  “I did it mainly for my— I just got married.” — Sean Kelly [11:46]
  “You did it for her… What nationality is she?… That’s why you don’t mix.” — Grant Cardone [11:51–11:53]

• On Involving Kids in Business:

  “She’s in all the meetings… She saw me do a call the other day with a guy… At the end of the call, my daughter’s like, ‘he knew the whole time, the whole time he was lying.’” — Grant Cardone [14:06–15:28]

• On Mediation Style:

  “This guy’s been doing this, he’s typically a retired judge… The way you do this is you interrupt the whole process… I’m gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse.” — Grant Cardone [16:01–16:23]

• On Relationships & Leadership:

  “One of you guys has to be in charge, bro… You got to get 100% from her, 100 from you. 50/50 is 50 pesos and 50 American dollars. What is that at, 25 cents?” — Grant Cardone [21:11–21:25]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Why Gen Z Should Rent, Not Buy: [00:00–00:21], [08:01–09:04]
• Grant’s Real Estate + Bitcoin Model: [04:14–06:45]
• Breakdown of Home Mortgage Math: [08:53–09:44]
• Teaching Kids Business (Sabrina stories): [13:45–15:28], [15:38–17:24]
• Role of Simplicity in Business: [23:43–24:33]
• Decision Making as a Superpower: [22:39–23:21]

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Episode Highlights & Memorable Exchanges

• Humorous Banter: Sean admits to selling crypto to buy a house—Grant razzes him playfully for both the financial move and, tongue-in-cheek, for not living up to “Asian” money-savvy stereotypes.

  “How can an Asian man make that big a mistake?” — Grant Cardone [11:42]

• Practical Wisdom: Grant lays out plain logic on why renting provides more freedom and less risk, with real-life numbers and comparisons.
• Unconventional Parenting: Grant’s daughter, instead of going to college, learns firsthand about business, negotiation, and hard truths from being at his side.

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Tone & Language

Grant Cardone brings a straight-shooting, high-energy, often humorous tone. He’s blunt, irreverent, and generous with personal anecdotes—alternately provoking, encouraging, and mentoring both Sean and listeners. The conversation is informal, filled with real talk, a few jabs, and lots of hard-earned perspective, making this episode both eye-opening and entertaining.

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Listen if you want:

• Real talk on wealth building and why old financial advice may not serve the next generation.
• Insights into how a multi-millionaire views risk, reward, and opportunity in today’s world.
• Lessons on decision-making, business innovation, and raising entrepreneurially minded kids.
• Spicy, quick-witted banter and stories you won’t find in a business textbook.

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Transcript

[A]

Gen Z shouldn't buy a house. I'm gonna tell Charlie's audience. Me and Charlie talk about this all the time. Like a house is not a thing people should be buying. They should rent. Do you rent?

[B]

I don't.

[A]

You should rent, bro.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

100 in Vegas. You're not gonna win.

[B]

I'll tell you the.

[A]

How can an Asian man make that big a mistake?

[B]

All right, guys, here with my friend. Third time's a charm. Grant Cardone, let's go.

[A]

Good to see you, man.

[B]

Good to see you, man. Looking good.

[A]

You know you're a hustler, dude. You know that song, you're a Hustler, baby. Like, there's no. There's very few people can hustle the way you do.

[B]

We just hit 2,000 episodes. We've done 100 this week alone.

[A]

Yeah, fantastic.

[B]

Doing 20.

[A]

It just goes to show you, you know, I was watching Jake Paul last night win 90 million bucks for getting his jaw cracked. And it just reminds me, bro, the hustle. Yeah, the hustle beats IQ any day of the week.

[B]

Any day.

[A]

And by the way, you got them both, Jake. Me and Jake, we don't have the iq, so we just got to do the hustle.

[B]

The Asian helps with the IQ a little bit, but, yeah, I wasn't never, like a genius, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I got bullied a lot for not getting good grades. Yeah. But what's new with you, man? It's good to see you back on the scene.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You're still heavy in politics.

[A]

You kind of, you know, look, I'm here. Charlie asked me, June of this year, asked me to speak at this. I was in. I was in the south of France, and he hit me and said, hey, I got an event. I want you to speak to the audience about finance. Because he and I had been together a number of times, and we always. We always ended up talking about finance and family and freedom, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we'd have these conversations about, can you really have freedom and take care of your family if you don't have your finances?

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

And he was a very, very astute dude on finance. He was very interested. He was always a very curious guy about everything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But he was very. He was self educated, as you know, and he was very well read on investing, bitcoin, real estate, tax laws.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The guy. Guy knew a lot about the game. The hustle.

[B]

He did, man.

[A]

The finance hustle.

[B]

Yeah. He knew when he passed, when Charlie passed, I was actually thinking about you because our most viral clip Was he? You talking about how dangerous schools were in America?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then look what happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

There you are.

[B]

I mean, it's unreal.

[A]

You know, Charlie and I. I did not know. When I met him the first time, I didn't know who he was, and he was already, like, on fire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think that's because I'm, like, ignorant. I was just. I got my head down most. Most of the time. I'm not looking at all this. So anyway, I met with him and I was. I started talking about colleges, and I started ripping. Colleges.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And I'm like, I don't know where you stand on that, you know? And he's like, look at my book. So, yeah, Charlie was a unbelievable dude. I've met a lot of people. Like, you've met a lot of people.

[B]

Yeah, I've met it.

[A]

I've gotten to know a lot of people in my lifetime, and I very rarely have I ever said maybe. Maybe there's two people I'm thinking about right now. Charlie Kirk was an exceptional human being.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Instantly, by the way, you would know it. Exceptional. And he was intelligent and he was. And he had a lot of tolerance and love in his. Like, he just had a. My aunt. I had an aunt. Aunt Match. And she was a very loving person. At the worst part of my life, she still loved me. And she was very tolerant. More. More than even my fam. My direct family. This woman went to church every day. Charlie had the same thing where he did not have. It wasn't just like, you're wrong. You shouldn't do that. He knew I was wrong. Shouldn't do that. But he still had some tolerance. Yeah, I have no capacity for that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I have no hope that that ever happens for me, but shout out to Amage. Charlie was. He was a super dude, bro. He was a special, special guy.

[B]

One of a kind, man. You still all in on bitcoin? I had your brother on at Charlie's last event, actually, in Tampa, and he said he was, I think, 90 into Bitcoin now or something.

[A]

Yeah, well, he's heavier than me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I got. But I got a lot of real estate I'd have to get rid of to get to 96%.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We just completed the largest real estate bitcoin purchase in. In the world. It was $235 million of real estate in Boca Raton. We bought it out of bankruptcy, and we added 100 million of bitcoin. We're going to take that public. We've done 10 of those.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I don't know if I told you this the last time we were together. I don't think.

[B]

I think you were just starting it or announcing it.

[A]

Yeah. We started in January. We've done 10. This year, we hope to take the company public. We'll do a deal called. Our Melbourne project is $72 million, and it had about 180 million. 180 Bitcoin. And then this Boca deals 235 million plus.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

900 Bitcoin.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So it's a big purchase.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

So for a private guy, we've accumulated a lot this year. I'm not buying the bitcoin by itself because it's so volatile. I keep telling people, leave that thing alone by itself, dude.

[B]

Like, you can't day trade it.

[A]

Oh, my God. I mean. Yeah. I don't even know how somebody would do that. Like, the swings right now are so violent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's why I blended the two together.

[B]

Smart.

[A]

You're not. You're not going to get those swings. You're going to get the swing. But. But it's going to be diluted with the real estate. And over seven or eight or 10 years, we think putting the two together at scale.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We'll be able to go really. The play here is not the bitcoin or the real estate. It's the REIT industry. So the REIT industry is 4.4.3 trillion. It hasn't changed in 65 years. It was created in 1960. I was two years old. None of it's changed. There's $4.3 trillion accumulated there with the largest real estate organizations in the. In the. In the country. They can never hold bitcoin on their balance sheet, ever. They have to distribute all their cash. 90% has to be redistributed to the investors, so they can't actually go out and reinvest their. Their cash flow, which is very valuable. And if they're big, they're buying garbage real estate, because you just can't find that much great real estate. And if they're too small, they don't produce enough money to stay in the business. So by putting real estate and bitcoin together, I have basically a moat around my business that doesn't allow Blackstone, Van Gogh, Vanguard, Avalon Bay, Camden, Starwood. None of them could come play in this pool I'm in.

[B]

That's brilliant.

[A]

Yeah. So for at least a moment, I could have a giant moat and a head start.

[B]

Smart.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Blackstone's taking over Vegas man, where I'm.

[A]

At, they are, huh?

[B]

I think a lot of private equity owns the casinos now.

[A]

Well, they probably have to, dude, to make them work. Yeah, but it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean it's going to work.

[B]

It's not looking like it's working right now.

[A]

You know what? Didn't they? Aren't they just. They're earning 6% and paying seven and a half out on a deal.

[B]

A lot of the casinos are in Vegas, are struggling. They're. They're saying potentially, you see, they're big.

[A]

Enough where they just walk away, bro, here's the keys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they'll just be doing business again because that's going to be a rounding error for them. A couple hundred built, whatever. Yeah, they're. They're a trillion dollar business if they got to throw away 175 million, 200 million, a group called Brookville two years ago. You can look it up. You'll see it when you, your guys pull it up. Brookville, they walked away from like $200 billion and nobody said anything. They bought a deal the next day. What if you walked away from 2 million? You'd have to file bankruptcy.

[B]

Yeah. Holy crap. There's levels to the game. You made a lot of predictions the first time you came on. And I just want to give you your flowers because you've been spot on, man. You said we'd be a renters nation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Three years ago you called up, they just announced a 50 year mortgage. Gen Z can't afford houses. You called that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, Gen Z shouldn't buy a house. I'm gonna. I'm tell Charlie's audience. Me and Charlie talk about this all the time. Like a house is not a thing people should be buying. They should rent. You should rent. Do you rent?

[B]

I don't do.

[A]

You should rent, bro.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

A hundred percent. You should rent. You're not gonna win in Vegas. You're not gonna win. Maybe you make a little money. How much house did you buy?

[B]

Spent. Two million.

[A]

Two million?

[B]

Yeah, bro, the mortgage is a lot.

[A]

Did you pay cash?

[B]

I put down 20%.

[A]

Okay, so you put 400 grand down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You finance 1, 6.

[B]

10% interest on the loan.

[A]

You're paying 100. You're paying. I'm paying $160,000 a year in interest.

[B]

Pretty much, yeah.

[A]

So in 10 years, you will have paid $1.6 million in interest and you will still owe $1.6 million.

[B]

Holy. I never thought of it that way.

[A]

Your 400 grand's dead. Earning nothing. You could have taken that 400 grand, bought Bitcoin. How many years ago did you buy it?

[B]

Last year.

[A]

Oh, last year you'd have bought bitcoin.

[B]

It.

[A]

You could have bought bitcoin as low as 72,000. So you'd have bought. You could have bought $400,000 of Bitcoin.

[B]

I actually, you're gonna hate this. I saved.

[A]

You'd have 600 pieces and they would be. Oh, you sold.

[B]

I sold crypto to buy the house.

[A]

Oh, bro.

[B]

So I had to pay taxes on the gains too.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

I got. Yeah, I got wrecked. I got wrecked.

[A]

Yeah, you should be renting, dude. You're paying. What's your. Your. Let me. Let me guess. Your note. Your note on a million six. Well, you're paying 120amonth.

[B]

Well, I had to do a. It's a 20. I had to do a bank statement.

[A]

How much are you paying? What's your. What's your payment?

[B]

I'm paying 12,000amonth.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. $120,000. I mean, $12,000 a month.

[B]

Yeah, 12,000.

[A]

Yeah. You know how much house you can rent in Vegas for?

[C]

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[A]

Sean, 12 grand a month.

[B]

Bro, get a mansion. I could get a damn Bazarian mansion.

[A]

No property tax, no maintenance. You don't fix a light bulb. You don't fix the irrigation. You don't fix the landscaping. You have no obligations every 10 months. If they don't treat you right, you're like, it off. I'm gonna go to a different place. And you'd have something new. All new, all the time.

[B]

Yeah, I might rent the next one. I might sell this one.

[A]

Yeah, you already try to sell that thing, bro. Get out of that as fast as you can.

[B]

Damn. Yeah.

[A]

I can't believe you did that, bro. I know. And you're Asian.

[B]

All right, bro, I'll tell you the.

[A]

How can an Asian man make that big a mistake?

[B]

I did it mainly for my. I just got married. You did it for her two months ago. Did it mainly for.

[A]

What nationality is she?

[B]

She's Latina.

[A]

Yeah, you see, that's why you don't mix.

[B]

Asians don't make those mistakes, man. Asians are good with money.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's gonna be one right there. Yeah, bro, that's gonna rip.

[B]

Yeah. You know, hey, I'm sure. I'm sure Elena wanted you to buy.

[A]

A house, but if you. If you'd have hooked up with an Asian, okay, you'd have gone to her and said, look, we can rent for, like, six grand or we can buy for 12. She'd have been like, oh, I love you a long time, but I leave you quick. Okay? You put. You add a Latino to it and say, dude, should we buy a house? Oh, yes, we should buy a house.

[B]

They like the security, you know?

[A]

But. But. But you have more security in a rental property. I guess you did you drive in the property. Their job is to protect people. Yeah, I have a. I bought it. I just bought a $235 million apartment complex. Damn. How much security you think they have there?

[B]

A lot.

[A]

We have more. More cameras than you have. Like, we have cameras everywhere to protect the people. Drive up, give your keys to the concierge. They put the car up. You have insurance and everything. You don't have to pay for it. Yeah, the next time you make a move like this, will you guys please talk to me?

[B]

I'll text you. I'll text you. My bad. I know you're disappointed.

[A]

I am.

[B]

It was a personal house. I don't invest in real estate.

[A]

Yeah, but this is what you'll do now. Now you're gonna. Now you're gonna make sense. You're going to justify the Whole thing. Well, it's a personal house. We're going to have babies there. Our kids, you know, bruh, none of that's true, by the way. The kids don't care.

[B]

You don't think they care?

[A]

The kids?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The kids don't care whether you own a home. They just want you guys to be happy. They want to be happy. They want. They don't want to go to school, bro. That's what they don't want to do. They're like, I didn't. Who. Who would.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't.

[A]

Who would want to go to a prison?

[B]

Yeah, you're doing great with Sabrina. I see her videos all the time.

[A]

Sabrina's doing great.

[B]

Hundreds of millions of years.

[A]

She finished school at 15, you know, 15. She's done no college, homeschooled. Nah, she won't go to college. She'll go to my college.

[B]

You want her to take over the business?

[A]

I'd love for her to take over.

[B]

That'd be awesome.

[A]

Yeah. Because she's with me. She sees all the stuff behind the scenes. Like, she's in all the meetings.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's in the nasty ones.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, she show her the good, the bad, and ugly.

[A]

Oh, she's. She's into. Like, she's in. Like, when I call the guy in, I'm like, if you can't learn this, bro, I'm gonna execute you.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And, okay.

[B]

You don't gatekeep any information?

[A]

No, nothing. Nothing. She gets to see all of that. All of it.

[B]

Respect.

[A]

Like, she saw. She saw me do a call the other day with a guy, and the guy was. I'm like, bro, you make a decision. No, I haven't looked at it yet. I said, okay, let me tell you what it says. It says, bing, bing, bing. What do you want to do? I need to look at it. I'm like, I just. I just haven't told you what it said. Okay. Okay. Look inside your mind's eye. You got a picture, a piece of paper. It says, A, B, C, bruh. Yes or no? You want to do it or not? He's like, well, you know, I was considering this other thing. I said, bruh, so this got nothing to do with you not seeing it. You want to do it or not do it? Like, it took, like, me. I'm pulling teeth, right? And at the end of the call, the whole thing was bullshit. He had already made a decision. He was going to do something else. Everybody had fooled around with this guy for three weeks and wasted time, energy, and resources. And when When. When it was all said and done with. My daughter's like, he knew the whole time, the whole time he was lying.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Okay. So I'm like, yeah, you got to pull the truth out of these people, get them to cop up to it. So anyway, you can't learn that school, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't learn in a book. You can only learn it being in the game. I think the last time I was with you, did I tell you about the litigation she was in with me? No, I was in $100 million litigation. She came into the mediation with me.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay. So there's your side, the other side, and his lawyers. There's my guy. I have one lawyer and the mediator.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I told the mediator, she's in the whole thing. I said, I told the mediator, said, this how it's going to go down. I'm going to offer X, Y and Z. They're going to do your little back and forth bullshit. You ever been in a mediation?

[B]

I actually haven't.

[A]

Okay, well, what happens is a third party, this third party guy sits over here and he talks to you, and then he comes talks to me, and he talks to you, talks to me. And he tries to get everybody to come together. I said, we're not doing that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This is a life. This guy's been doing this. He's typically a retired judge. The way you do this is you interrupt the whole process and say, look, I'm going to go to him. When you go over there the first time, after you talk to me, you talk to me first. You're going to go over there. I'm going to walk over there and interrupt you. I'm going to ask you to leave, and I'm going to ask his lawyers to leave, and I'm going to sit down with the guy direct, and I'm going to make him an offer. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. Okay? And I said, we're going to get this done deal, this deal done in two hours. In two hours, the whole deal is going to be done. They think it's going to go 12 hours.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay. It's $100 million. So me and Sabrina walk over there, I knock on the door, tell the mediator to get out. The mediator tell me, don't do this, but been doing this my whole life. It's going to blow up in our face. Hey, two lawyers from New York, scram. Hit the road, Jack. I'mma get this done. Me and John are going to do this right now, right here. Mediator. Get out of here. Me and Sabrina, 15 year old kid, walked in there and did the deal.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's badass.

[A]

Yeah, it's badass, dude.

[B]

Wow. So mediation only takes 12 hours, you said.

[A]

Oh, could take three days.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

It could be, it could be. Who knows? It could be years.

[B]

That's nuts.

[A]

You know, I once, I once resolved this massive divorce between these two people.

[B]

You solved the divorce?

[A]

Yeah. They had been back and forth trying to get a divorce, very wealthy people, and they could never get a settlement. The lawyers could never get a settlement. I said, hey, guys, I get this deal done in 12 hours or less. So we ain't got a deal done.

[B]

Do you even know these people? How did they have.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I knew. Oh, yeah, I know.

[B]

Wow, look at you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're a counselor.

[A]

You just got to confront things, man. Got to confront what everybody's thinking about. What do you really want? What are you not saying? What are you really pissed off about? If you could have anything and everything you wanted, what would it be? Okay. If you didn't get all that, what would you give up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, you know, you just got to confront stuff. People don't ask hard questions. You ask hard questions. You know, I try to interview people.

[B]

Yeah. I try to. Do you see marriage as a business partnership?

[A]

Do I see it as a business partnership? I, I mean, in some ways I do, but I don't recommend that the woman's in business with the guy running the business.

[B]

Like the same in business, you're saying?

[A]

Yeah, I, I, I, I don't know how to do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know how to go from. But I'm a very dominating person. Right? So I'm like, I mean, bro, your wife would have never talked me into that house. I can't even think about that.

[B]

You didn't fall for it when you were my age, huh? You didn't let it make a girl buy?

[A]

No.

[B]

You never bought a house with a girl?

[A]

No.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

No. You kidding me?

[B]

Well done.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, no, because you were definitely asked.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

There's definitely been women that have asked to like, buy a house with you. Right. In the past.

[A]

Does anybody ask about a house or. No, I buy the house and then I'm like, you get to live there, you know, I mean, I'm like, I'm not, I'm the real estate guy. They're not, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, like, But I've never bought a house like that for that. Okay, so like the house that we live in today or the house in Malibu I bought? They got burned.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Me and Elena were walking down the beach. We weren't in the market for a house. We were renting the house we were in. I saw the house and I'm like, I'm gonna buy that house. Because I knew. I knew I saw something in the house that I knew I could get a good deal in the house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's like, what do you see that I don't see? I said, it's a divorce going on. And she's like, how can you tell it's a divorce? I said, I could tell because of the furniture out on the deck. Okay. They're not living there together, like. So I called my buddy Brandon up. I said, hey, Brandon. 21808 PCH. Who owns it? Ukrainian guy owns it. Okay, good. What's going on? Is it a divorce? He's like, yeah, dude, it is a divorce. I said, great. This was before the Ukraine war. I said, I want to buy the house. He's like, he's impossible to deal with. I said, for sure we're buying it. Because if it's impossible for me to deal with, then he's been impossible for everybody else to deal with. Okay? Sooner or later, nobody wants to touch this guy because he's, like, very volatile. So I go in, make an offer. He says, you in Ukraine doesn't hurt me because I don't know what it means. And then I'm like, just hang in there, Brandon. We're gonna get the deal. Okay. Took 19 months.

[B]

Damn. Boom.

[A]

Finally, he finally gives me the house. We stole the house. I believe I stole the house. I gotta believe that now. Yeah. So. So. But then I told my. I called my wife up 19 months later, after we walked that beach one morning, I called her up and said, I bought the Malibu house today. And she's like, oh, my God, that's awesome.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But she. One of you guys has to be in charge, bro.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, you don't believe in 50?

[A]

50, 50.

[B]

50.

[A]

50 is 50, bro. You're getting a half effort from everybody. You got to get 100% from her. 100 from you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, 50. 50 what? 50 pesos and 50American dollars. What is that at? 25 cents? Okay, so no, you. She needs to give 100% what she's good at. She can't. There's no reason to have her doing stuff she's not good at. And then you need to do what you're good at.

[B]

Right?

[A]

You know, I'm not good at everything. Like, I don't hire people.

[B]

Really. I don't hire.

[A]

I get my. I give my two cents.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I'm like, yeah, they're not going to work, but whatever y' all want to do.

[B]

I would have thought you were good at firing people. Actually.

[A]

No, I don't fire people either. Last thing I do is fire somebody.

[B]

Okay. I could see you firing someone.

[A]

Yeah. No, but. Because I'd fire people every day.

[B]

Yeah, you got high standards, which is good, though.

[A]

I would be like, I'm too. I'm too. Like, no, get rid of them. I'm done with them. So if I did that, we would. I would destroy the organization.

[B]

Okay, so you're quick to.

[A]

I wouldn't. Yeah. I wouldn't have Jared. Jared wouldn't work for me. Sherry wouldn't work for me. Todd wouldn't work for me. Some of my best performers I would have made mistakes on. I'm just. Yeah, I'm just. I. I don't have that eye. It's not. It's not something I'm good at.

[B]

Right. Wow. You even acknowledging that is huge, though. I feel.

[A]

Well, that's not my. That's not my superpower.

[B]

Yeah. What would you say your superpower is?

[A]

My superpower? One. I mean, one of my superpowers is. Is I make decisions very quickly, and then. And then another superpowers. I make sure that decision works. So.

[B]

So you're good at making important decisions with quickness and then. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't take a lot of time. I'm. I'm very. Once I'm in, dude, I'm in.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like second nature to you.

[A]

I just trust myself. I have a lot of trust. I think that's one of my. I trust me, and I have a lot of. I have a lot of discipline. I'm also very disciplined. Is. I believe that is a superpower. And I see things. I see things that other people don't see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I got a lot of weaknesses, too, so those. You know. But I could see around cracks and corners. Like, me seeing the REIT thing is. Because I was looking for it. Yeah. I was looking for the crack. I'm looking around the corners, I think. I think. I think Charlie Kirk saw that, too. Charlie had the ability to see things other people couldn't see.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

Sudden, the election, and. And. And I'm simple. That's another superpower. I'm a very simple man.

[B]

Really.

[A]

Extremely simple. Nothing's complicated with me. Everything's very. Everything. Everything's very simple with me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Very simple. If it's complicated, I don't do it like. Like bitcoin. What I've done with bitcoin and real estate is so simple. It's like. It was so obvious and so simple. When I tell it to people, they're like, God damn, dude, you. You don't have to put it on the blockchain. You don't need to put the real estate on the blockchain because the blockchain is not ready for that anyway. Yeah, but if you just mix the two inside of an organization, you know, wrapped a shell around it, wrapped a shell around the bitcoin and the property, own them, and then have people invest in that, then you. You have the same thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's just simple. It's a simple idea. It's fast.

[B]

A lot of people try to come up with these complicated ideas of businesses these days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But you're right about being simple. Keep it easy, right? Yeah, 100%. Well, Grant, it was good seeing you, man. I hope you like the chair.

[A]

Always good, bro. Love the chair.

[B]

Always good seeing you, bro. Yeah. Check them out, guys. Peace.

[C]

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[B]

Thank you.