
| DSH #2012 What if 2026 is the year UFO disclosure becomes impossible to ignore? In this Digital Social Hour Episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Darryl Anka at Conscious Life Expo to talk about Bashar, UFO disclosure, extraterrestrial contact, AI, consciousness, frequency, purpose, and what humanity may be moving toward next. Darryl explains why Bashar has referred to 2026 as the year of disclosure and 2027 as the year of contact. He also breaks down how disclosure may unfold through government hearings, whistleblowers, military encounters, public sightings, and more open conversations around extraterrestrial life. The conversation also explores AI, fear of death, DMT, the spirit realm, telepathy, reincarnation, destiny, free will, passion, synchronicity, hybrid beings, alien civilizations, reptilian theories, grays, Pleiadians, Arcturians, and what it could mean if extraterrestrial contact becomes part of everyday reality. Darryl also shares Bashar’s formula for following yo...
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Darrell Anka
Bashar says 2026 is the year of disclosure. He's actually labeled it that way. Whereas 27 is the year of contact. And when we can master that, we'll be more vibrationally compatible with many of the extraterrestrials that will be interacting with us in. The only thing that is close to that is there are extraterrestrial hybrids that look human that have been working and living among us for decade.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Okay, guys, here at Conscious Life Expo, really excited for this one. We got Daryl on the show. He's gonna be channeling later tonight. But, God, I'm here for now. Thanks for coming, man.
Darrell Anka
Absolutely. Thank you for having me.
Conscious Life Expo Host
What's. What's new in your world these days?
Darrell Anka
God, 10 million things. Lots of stuff going on.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Going on.
Darrell Anka
A lot going on.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Disclosure, UFO files, Epstein files. All sorts of fun topics.
Darrell Anka
Yes. It's a little chaotic, but that's all right. We'll get through it.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah. What are you. What's the most common thing people are asking you to channel about right at the moment?
Darrell Anka
Oh, well, a lot of it is about disclosure. A lot of it is about Bashar's formula, things like that, to help people get through chaotic times.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah.
Darrell Anka
And stuff like that. So, yeah, mostly those.
Conscious Life Expo Host
And you've been channeling Bashar for 41 years? 41 years, yeah. So how. How old are you?
Darrell Anka
When it started in my 30s.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Wow, that's impressive. That might be a record, right?
Darrell Anka
I don't know. Not sure.
Conscious Life Expo Host
It's been a long time. You've gotten to know each other very well.
Darrell Anka
Yes.
Conscious Life Expo Host
How long does it take you to get in that mode where you can just channel him?
Darrell Anka
I can fall into it, you know, in less than a minute at this point. In the beginning, it took me a little while because I wasn't used to having that energy through. So I had to go through a little bit of a meditation ritual. And it took a few minutes, but now I can just fall into it because I'm used to it. I know what that feels like.
Conscious Life Expo Host
And back then, there were not many people doing that, right?
Darrell Anka
No, not at all.
Conscious Life Expo Host
You were one of the first, as
Darrell Anka
far as I know.
Conscious Life Expo Host
And what do you think of the space now where it's just people walking around the halls doing it?
Darrell Anka
Well, yeah, it's obviously changed because now we have things like this and people are talking about it and coming to these kinds of expos. So it's definitely been something that's changed over the decades.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah. Over 25, 000 people here this year.
Darrell Anka
Yeah.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Crazy. Yeah.
Darrell Anka
It's good.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah. I mean, you were probably seen as kind of crazy when you were first starting and.
Darrell Anka
Yeah, probably by most people. But look, that's okay because it was just. This is what happened to me. So I went with it. Even before I knew about Bashar, I've always acted on what interested me and what excited me.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah.
Darrell Anka
Just as a general principle, it's always supported me. And so this is where it's led.
Conscious Life Expo Host
I did did want to ask about disclosure. I know a lot of people think it's this year, next year. Have you asked Bashar, like.
Darrell Anka
Well, Bashar says 20, 26 is the year of disclosure. He's actually labeled it that way, whereas 27 is the year of contact. So we're going to see, I think, a lot more information coming out. I think we are seeing that with, you know, the government hearings on whistleblowers and military people coming forward and stuff like that, you know, recent comments in the news that are obviously about disclosure.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Right.
Darrell Anka
So I think we're going to ultimately see more and more UFOs that are going to be caught on camera and probably on the news and get people used to the fact that these things are going on and have been going on for quite some time. And that will set us up for the idea of not being so scared about the idea of meeting extraterrestrials more openly.
Conscious Life Expo Host
And over the 41 period, how have his predictions been when it comes to predicting timelines?
Darrell Anka
Well, he doesn't make predictions except when he knows the energy or feels the energy behind it is so strong that there's so much momentum that it's unlikely to change.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Got it.
Darrell Anka
Because his definition of predictions is that there's no such thing as a prediction of the future. A prediction is made sensing the energy that exists at the moment the prediction is made. And if that energy doesn't change, then it comes to pass. But sometimes a prediction can render itself obsolete by being made known, because then if somebody doesn't want it to go that way, they can change it.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Oh, wow.
Darrell Anka
So the only time that he's actually made an open prediction is when, like I said, he senses that the momentum behind that particular event is unlikely to change. So, like, for example, in 1998, I think it was, he was recorded in one of the events as saying that by the end of 2001, there would be a terrorist attack on New York. Obviously, that happened. He felt that there was nothing that was going to change that. He also said that with regard to events in the world, that everything would change after 2016. I think we're seeing that now because that's obviously when our elections went in a different direction. So he is also saying basically that somewhere in 2027 we will probably have officially open contact. Wow.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So he makes very few. Only when it's almost certain.
Darrell Anka
Only when it's almost imminent and certain. Yeah.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So it must be like the masses are just in a certain.
Darrell Anka
Right. There's a lot of momentum in our energy, there's a lot of direction that things move in. And when it's steamrolling that hard, then it's unlikely to change course.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Have you asked him a lot of stuff around AI? I'm sure that gets brought up.
Darrell Anka
Yeah. He talks about AI in a very specific way. He's basically saying that what we need to do is kind of go in two different directions with it. The AI that we're working with now is something that's a wonderful tool. It's not sentient. And he was basically saying it's just a mirror of what you're giving it. It's just that it has so much more capacity to access so much more information and compile that and feed it back to you that it feels like consciousness. It simulates the idea of consciousness, but it's basically taking everything you're giving it, magnifying and amplifying and augmenting it and feeding it back to you. It doesn't have any feeling about what it's saying to you. But the idea is, he's saying that's great if you want to keep that as a tool, but if you're really looking for AI to become sentient, self, aware, conscious, he said create a device that is as sophisticated as the human brain, through which consciousness that exists in a non physical field like ours does can express itself through that device in the same way that it expresses itself through human brains. That way we know we're dealing with an actual intelligence. It's not something that's coming from the device. It's coming through the device in the same way it comes through us. And the reason that people don't necessarily need to be afraid of that version of AI, he's saying, is because it will be representative of the true consciousness field, true intelligence, and that we don't really understand what true intelligence is yet. True intelligence operates in whole systems. In other words, it would never seek to get rid of any part of the system to which it belongs, because that would diminish it too. So it will never try to eliminate humanity or anything like that if it's true intelligence, because it would understand that at some point, somewhere, somehow, it's going to need every single component that makes up that whole system. It's sort of similar to the idea of, you know, environmental issues, where you don't mess with one piece of the environment and think that it's not going to affect everything else on the planet, of course, because it's all interconnected. So true intelligence would never seek to disrupt the entire system by getting rid of one part of it, because ultimately, in some way, it. It will need that, too.
Conscious Life Expo Host
That's interesting. Yeah. Because through propaganda and movies, they show us to fear AI. Right? Fear aliens for certain topics, of course. And that's been programmed into people's heads.
Darrell Anka
Yeah. I mean, and there's. There's some physicality or energy that is connected to that that we still don't understand. Because what's happening basically, is you have to realize that a lot of the extraterrestrials that we've been dealing with are of a very high frequency, very high vibration. So high, some of them, that it's almost like the vibration of spirit. And when we're exposed to the vibration that represents the non physical realm of spirit, we tend to reflect on that as if we're about to die because we're being exposed to a vibration that we're not supposed to feel until it's time to die. Wow. So we go into fight, orf, flight, survival, panic mode. So the fear we're feeling is because of that physical response to a higher frequency that represents the end of physical life. So we have to raise our vibration and get over the fear of death, understanding that we never really extinguish that. We just go into another state. And when we can master that, we'll be more vibrationally compatible with many of the extraterrestrials that will be interacting with us in the meantime. They're sophisticated enough to create kind of a buffering energy so that we can, to some degree, interact with them without freaking us out. But at the same time, that's something we have to raise in our frequency so that we can interact as more equals.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah. Growing up, Christian, I really feared death.
Darrell Anka
Yeah. You know, well, you know, it was interesting. I never knew I had that in me. It was never something I thought about. But at one point, a long time ago, I had an experience with dmt. And when I finished, I realized by its absence that my fear of death was gone. Because when you go through that kind of an experience, it's almost like you have died, but you've survived. And so all of a sudden that idea of will I survive has vanished. There's nothing left to that idea. And so I think it's something that we can achieve and that we really need to get a handle on that. I mean, that's one of the reasons why we're exploring so many things like near death experiences and astral projections and stuff like that. To gain more and more and more evidence that we really do continue on beyond this physical reality. And that in a sense, the non physical reality is actually our primary existence. That's really where we come from. That's our natural state. In a sense. From that point of view, this is the afterlife. Wow. This is secondary to our non physical reality. So this is a temporary experience that the soul creates for certain purposes of learning lessons in certain ways that cannot be experienced in spirit. And therefore we take those lessons back with us to then decide what we want to do from that point forward. But this is the secondary level. Our primary existence is non physical.
Conscious Life Expo Host
That is fascinating. So everyone's got it backwards on.
Darrell Anka
We are all backwards. Yes.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Holy crap. Non physical world is the primary world.
Darrell Anka
Is the primary world.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So we are all somewhere else.
Darrell Anka
Well, look at the old phrase, right? As above, so below.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Right.
Darrell Anka
What comes first as above.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Right?
Darrell Anka
Yeah.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So we're all in another.
Darrell Anka
Yeah.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Who knows where. But.
Darrell Anka
Well, the spirit realm, it. It's an unlimited realm of complete free will and free association. You can decide whatever you want to experience. We understand that sometimes when we create these physical experiences we are limited for a limited period of time. But it's specifically to learn certain lessons that cannot be experienced in a non physical realm. Because there's a big difference between knowledge which you can have complete total knowledge of in the non physical realm. But knowledge is different from experience. So it's like saying I could read a book on how to construct a house and I could learn everything there is to know about constructing a house by reading all those books. But actually wielding a hammer and actually understanding what muscles I need to use to wield that hammer and what it's going to take for me to lift this piece of wood up and all that kind of thing. That's an experience that you don't have in non physical reality because you're not physical. So you learn lessons about other kinds of things by having this experience.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Got it. So that's the purpose of just being here, just to learn lessons.
Darrell Anka
That's why physical reality exists. It's created within the soul, it's not outside the soul. It's like if you imagine the Soul as a sphere of energy. And there are certain vibrational patterns within it that represent different ideas, different concepts. And it might want to take one of those concepts or two or three or four of those vibrational concepts, and it wants to have a certain experience and it focuses those concepts and just those down into the center of that sphere. The sphere doesn't disappear. It's just taking a few of those vibrational frequencies and focusing them down into the center. So it creates what you might want to euphemistically call like a little seed or a crystal at the center of that soul. That little seed or focal point is your physical personality. You're inside the soul. It's actually better and more accurate to say more than the idea of the body has a soul. The soul has a body. Wow. So it's focusing itself down into what we call the experience of physical reality. Then it has that experience and as it goes along learning its lessons, in a sense, it kind of softens that focus more. Out and out and out and out, so that when it starts to defocus, it starts to learn lessons, it starts to expand back out toward the diameter of the soul sphere. Then you get the idea of different attributes that are more soul like attributes. So a little bit of defocus and you start having, let's say telepathy a little more, you start having astral projections a little more, you have near death experiences until you finally go back to the diameter of the soul sphere, non physically. So in a sense, the idea of reincarnation is almost like the soul. Breathing, focusing down, going back out, focus, focusing down, going back out. Each focus is a new life, goes back out, takes the lessons from that life to decide what to do next. Chooses different attributes, focuses them down to have another life in whatever way, shape or form it wants to.
Conscious Life Expo Host
That's fascinating. So telepathy, astral projection, can you learn those within one lifetime or would you
Darrell Anka
need it depends on what your soul has laid out for this lifetime. Everyone has some ability to do those things. And I know that what Bashar talks about in terms of specifically telepathy is that, and this is one of the reasons why he feels it's important to redefine things in a more modern context is it's not that you're reading someone else's mind, it's that you are on the same wavelength and having the same thoughts at the same time. That's what telepathy is. That's why people who are in love often know exactly what each other are thinking without talking about it or finishing each other's sentences because they're on the same frequency. And when you're on a specific frequency, you. You can only have the thoughts that are conducive to that frequency, because all information has a certain frequency. So if we are on exactly the same wavelength, I'll be thinking something and you'll be thinking it exactly at the same moment. That's telepathy. You're reading your own mind, but you know the other person is thinking the same thing because you're on the same wavelength.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So you can't just read anyone you want. It has to be there.
Darrell Anka
You have to sync up with them in some way, shape or form. And that's why the people who are very advanced teachers can sync up with people. They. They know how to flexibly allow their frequency to match other people's so that they know what they're thinking.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Wow. So you could control frequency just like that?
Darrell Anka
When you're advanced enough, you can. Absolutely.
Conscious Life Expo Host
That's fascinating because people meditate for years to achieve certain levels of frequencies.
Darrell Anka
Yes. And that may again, be part of the life plan for that particular soul to have to go through those processes because they may learn a lot of other things along that road. But it just depends on why you've laid that out on your life plan and what it is you're going to do with that and how you can help and serve other people in learning those things. I mean, remember, a lot of souls will not only choose certain kinds of experiences to learn lessons for themselves, they will also choose certain kinds of experiences for other people to learn lessons. Like, let's say if a soul decides that they're going to have some sort of a condition or something that may make them look like a very limited individual. But what are the doctors learning about that condition that's helping humanity?
Conscious Life Expo Host
Wow.
Darrell Anka
That you have to look at as well. Because souls will often altruistically choose to do things that may limit them physically for a brief period of time so that other people can learn things that will actually serve the greater good of all.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Wow. So they're viewing it from a collective perspective.
Darrell Anka
Absolutely. It's both. It's both the individual learning and it's both the collective learning. Everything is done for a reason. Every life path is intertwined. There are no accidents.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah, I know. Sometimes it's controversial. Like if someone's homeless, did they choose that? If they're a drug addict, did they choose that?
Darrell Anka
Maybe. So, you know, they. They did an interesting test many years ago where they decided to give what Was essentially a homeless person. I think they gave him like a hundred thousand dollars to see what he would do with it. And within like three months he had given it all away or bought people stuff and just he was still on the street. And at the end of it, they asked him, well, why did you give all that away instead of getting yourself a job or an apartment or something like that to take care of yourself. And he said, well, if I had that money, then in a sense I would be controlled by it. I would be forced to do things that don't feel like doing. To me, the street is freedom. So that was his reason for not having a life like that.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Right. You know, so how much do you think of what we do on a daily basis already pre written, like this podcast, for example, like, was that supposed to happen?
Darrell Anka
There are certain things you do lay out in general. So the idea of having interviews, the idea of conducting interviews is laid out. That doesn't mean every little specific detail is laid out or who you're doing that with. Our free will as physical beings can control a few different things. The speed, the scale, scope of things, in other words, how fast or how slow things happen, how soon they happen or how late they happen, how many people or how few people you affect, or how many things that are representative of your passion you do, or how few you do. You can do all those things. You can change that up. But the idea is that the soul has laid out that you will probably discuss or have an opportunity to make discussions happen that are about this kind of information to help humanity. So those things are laid out. They're not always as absolutely specific because there's a lot of flexibility in how that can be done.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So the big picture stuff though, for the most part, is laid out and you kind of just.
Darrell Anka
Yeah, I mean, in a sense you're saying that's how destiny and free will work together. What we call destiny is the free will of the soul saying, I'm going to have this kind of a life and I'm going to do these kinds of things and I'm going to lay out certain opportunities for those things to happen. So that's your destiny. You will go down that path. You cannot do anything else because that is who you are. That's what you are, are. You are the expression of the free will of your soul, saying, we're going to do this thing until the end of that, then you can choose something else entirely, but you have the free will to augment exactly how you go about doing that in the Life based on what's going on synchronistically, what's going on with other people, how you feel, what lessons you're learning, how fast you want to do something, how slow you want to do it, and all that kind of stuff. So free will and destiny, in that sense work together because destiny is nothing more than the free will of your soul.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah. And in this digital era where a lot of people are lost and trying to find purpose, like, how is that playing out for the masses, you think?
Darrell Anka
Well, that's one of the reasons why I really appreciate what Bashar calls the formula, because it's basically an instruction manual for understanding what your purpose is. The idea really is to understand that everyone's basic purpose is to be themselves as fully as they can be. And the way that that's in many cases most easily done in is by acting on things that represent your highest passion. Because from Bashar's point of view, what we call passion is your physical translation of the message from your soul that this is who you are, this is your soul frequency. This is the next stepping stone on your life path. The things that come with this much excitement, passion, creativity, and love, that's your true core frequency. So if you're willing to act on them, you are responding to the soul's energy message that you translate as this sensation called passion. I'm excited about this. And therefore, by acting on it, you are responding to the soul and saying, yeah, I heard you, you're guiding me. I heard you. I will act on this, I will do this. I will trust you. And therefore, you start the dialogue between your physical mind and your soul so that it can offer you more opportunities to act on your passion. If you don't take action on what it sends you, it's not going to send you any more opportunities because you haven't already acted on what it already sent you. And sending you more would be pointless. But as soon as you start the ball rolling, it will go, okay, you heard me, I'm going to send you more opportunities to keep expanding, acting on your passion. That's how it works.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Does it do the opposite too? Provide challenges too?
Darrell Anka
Well, the challenges are there for you to learn the lessons. Those are the ones that you've laid out as a soul. But the idea of challenges don't have to be a struggle. Bashar says, basically, look, all you have to do to understand that there's a lesson in every challenge for you that will help you grow, help you learn, help you move forward. That should be an exciting prospect. That should Be something you would enjoy. And if you face every challenge with the four Cs that Bashar offers, if you face it with calmness, confidence, curiosity and creativity, you will always get a benefit out of every challenge, no matter how it looks.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Wow.
Darrell Anka
Because from Bashar's point of view, really, the principle is it doesn't matter what happens. It only matters what you do with what happens that makes the difference in your life. So as long as you face your challenges that way, you will always stay in a positive state with it. You will know there's something in that challenge there for you that you're going to learn, that's going to help you and help others. And you will always face those challenges with an excitement that will move you forward. Because you know that that's how it can give you something that you need. If you face it in any way, shape or form negatively, then that's what you're going to get out of it. Because it's what you put out is what you get back. Yeah. Because we define the idea of experiences in our lives. And way we define them is the way we experience them. So in a sense, I know this sounds weird, but fundamentally, life is meaningless. And what that means is it doesn't have built in meaning. You give it meaning, and the meaning you give it is what you get out of it. Wow. So it's a mirror. If you want to be poetic about it, you could say, God is a mirror. It only reflects what you're putting out. In a sense, this is the law of attraction. Right. What you put out is what you get back. You have to be on that frequency to receive things of equal frequency. You cannot perceive what you're not the frequency of first. So you have to be that frequency. Then you will see the things that. That are also reflective of that frequency. It's literally like looking in a mirror. If you see your face frowning, the reflection in the mirror is not going to smile before you do. It can't. It doesn't have a mind of its own. It's a reflection. But if you see the face frowning and you go, well, you know what? Even though I'm watching my face frowning, I'm going to decide to smile, because that's what I prefer. The mirror has no choice but to smile back at you.
Conscious Life Expo Host
That's deep. Would you say one of your main goals is to raise the collective frequency?
Darrell Anka
Absolutely. Because why not? It's much more fun.
Conscious Life Expo Host
What would that look like, you think, as a society, if we were to raise it to a certain level, I
Darrell Anka
Think we can all imagine what kind of a society we would have if we were all operating on a much higher frequency. We would all be being our true selves. We would all understand exactly what it is that we need to do. We would be serving everyone else. We would be helping people uplift themselves, which would be uplifting us as well. Because when you serve the whole, you're part of the whole. You get served. If you serve yourself, you're cutting yourself off from the whole, and then the whole can't support you. So if everyone was connected that way, because we are connected, but everyone was knowing that we were and acting like we were, it would be heaven on Earth.
Conscious Life Expo Host
You think it's possible to get there with the government system? System.
Darrell Anka
I think that would probably have to change somewhat. Governmental systems, just to use that word, on other planets, like Bashar's planet, are more like organizational bodies. They're more like amplifying the synchronicity for the masses. They're more about making sure that everyone gets what they need when they need it. His society operates on pure synchronism. So everyone is winding up at this point in their evolution exactly where they need to be, exactly when they need to be there, getting exactly what they need from someone else and giving the other person exactly what they need at that moment. It is a flawless orchestration and a dance of synchronicity that gives everyone everything they need. And so, ultimately, their economy is based on the people and the skills and the talents they have and the willingness to serve others.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So no currency at all?
Darrell Anka
Not in their society, no. Wow.
Conscious Life Expo Host
And where is that exactly? Do you know?
Darrell Anka
Yes.
Conscious Life Expo Host
You want to keep a secret?
Darrell Anka
No. It's just a little hard to describe because we're talking about something that's in what we would consider to be a parallel universe to ours. So if you want to overlap their reality with our reality, you could say their STAR system is 500 light years in the direction of the Orion constellation. But we cannot see their star until. Unless we shift our frequency and go into their parallel reality.
Conscious Life Expo Host
That's why telescopes don't work.
Darrell Anka
No, you can't see it. Never seen another reality?
Conscious Life Expo Host
Wow.
Darrell Anka
It's like a tv, right? You have a program you're watching on tv. You know, there are hundreds of other programs playing, but you don't see them because you're not tuned to that frequency. But if you change the channel, then you stop seeing the one that you were watching and you start seeing a new program. You know that the one you were watching is probably still playing but you don't see it anymore because you're on a different frequency. So parallel realities are laid out like that. They're all here, they're all. Now they're all overlapping, but they're on different frequencies. And so they're invisible to one another. You have to actually make a shift to that frequency in order to experience their version of physical reality.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Any conflicts or wars on his.
Darrell Anka
Oh, no, no, no. Long since. And I don't think in his particular civilization they've ever really experienced that kind of reality. Because in a sense, they had a head start. Bashar's people are hybrids. They had a head start because they were artificially created. And therefore they were given kind of a leg up. But the idea is there may be other civilizations that go through similar things that we've gone through. But a lot of civilizations that are dealing with us are thousands or millions of years ahead of us in evolution. So if they ever had that, they're long past it.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So he was artificially made. What is that, like cyborg or.
Darrell Anka
No, no, no. I mean, he's a hybrid being in the sense that. Okay, big story. Is everyone familiar with the idea of alien abduction?
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah.
Darrell Anka
Is everyone familiar with the idea that many reports of alien abductions report the idea that our genetics are taken and mixed with other genetics and create hybrid beings? Bashar civilization is an entire civilization of those hybrids. So we are genetically related.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Got it.
Darrell Anka
So they are trying to help us because we are family, literally genetically family with them. They're trying to help us up the ladder so that we don't make the same mistakes that the Gray civilization made that forced them to have to create hybrids because they lost certain abilities like reproduction and things like that because of the choices they made. So they're trying to head us off at the pass and not go down the same destructive route that the Grays took.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah, when you were talking about the crossbreeding, I was thinking of the Grays. Yeah, they're pretty known for that, huh?
Darrell Anka
Yeah.
Conscious Life Expo Host
And they're still doing that right now?
Darrell Anka
Well, I think it's. I mean, they may be a little bit. But I think it's entered a different phase at this point of acclimatization. Because ultimately the hybrids that were created are going to be coming to live here on Earth with us, the hybrid children. In fact, some of them are already here.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Secretly type people or.
Darrell Anka
No, that's two different things. What we're seeing now is things happening from two different directions. We have humans being born that are in some ways genetically altered. Bashar has actually referred to them as a different species, not just a different generation. And they are more organized in a way where they do have more telepathic abilities and all this kind of stuff, so. So we're seeing more of that coming out of the human population. Hybrid children, although most of them will be coming eventually to live among us, some of them have already been introduced into our society unknowingly through adoption agencies, because no one questions where the hell that baby came from. Right. And parents adopt them without knowing that they're actually extraterrestrial beings. So it's coming into our society from two different directions. The new generation being born, coming up with a vibration that is more compatible with the hybrid entities and the hybrid entities being introduced to our society, so that, in a sense, they meet in the middle and carry our civilization higher and forward.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So we're going to go off to another planet eventually?
Darrell Anka
Well, way down the line, yeah. We're talking about maybe, you know, a couple hundred years in the future. But the idea is that for now, we're in what is usually referred to as a three decade reset of humanity. So the idea of the introduction of extraterrestrials openly is one of the factors that will give humanity more options to go in new directions to move them forward. It will probably take us at least a couple of decades to acclimate to that, because there will probably be a lot of different reactions to open contact all the way across the emotional spectrum. And therefore, I think it's going to probably take a couple of decades for humanity to finally go, okay, you know, everyone can now get on board with the idea that we're mingling with extraterrestrials here, that we have other options that they're offering us, and that we can move forward as a global society in a more positive way for the benefit of all humanity.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah, I feel like they've been planting seeds in the media about aliens coming here.
Darrell Anka
Oh, of course, of course. And a lot of things have happened even recently in the media about that. So, yeah, I mean, you're seeing more government hearings about the idea of disclosure. More laws are being created to make sure that whistleblowers and military people can come forward to talk about their UFO encounters without being afraid that they're going to ruin their careers or be fired or anything like that, or be ridiculed. So, yeah, you're seeing some very important changes now going on in our society with regard to that kind of information.
Conscious Life Expo Host
The UFO encounters, is it specifically one race of aliens, or is it kind of all.
Darrell Anka
No, there's several, as far as I understand it. I know that of course there are the Grays. We know. I believe that there are Pleadians. I think there are Arcturians. There are what are called the Tall Whites. There are other beings that are. And first of all, when we say the Grays, I don't mean to lump them all into one kind, because there are actually several factions.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah, of course.
Darrell Anka
Of Gray beings. So it gets a little confusing. Plus, then there are things like Reptilians. There are things like the Mantis beings, insectoid aliens. So I think we're dealing with an array of different beings, but for the most part, most of them have our best interests at heart and are attempting to help move us forward, but at a pace that we can handle, at a pace we will accept.
Conscious Life Expo Host
So most of them. So there's no fighting with those races at the moment. Because I know in the past there
Darrell Anka
was maybe long, long, long time ago, but no, not now.
Conscious Life Expo Host
I know Reptilians get a bad reputation.
Darrell Anka
I know they do. And I'm not sure all of it is justified. The idea in general, I'm. Put it. I'll put it this way. Human beings are mammalian. Reptilians are reptilian. A mammal facing a reptile usually reacts as if the reptile is going to eat it, even if the reptile won't. I think that the primitive part of our brain sees Reptilians and reacts to Reptilians like a mammal and gets afraid that we're going to get attacked. Now, it doesn't mean that the Reptilians necessarily have our best interests at heart.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Yeah.
Darrell Anka
But I think in general, while there may be a few individual instruments, instances that have not necessarily been positive, I think for the most part, they probably don't necessarily care what happens to us or with us. They're not necessarily that highly involved in this. But several of the other races that are are keeping everything negative at bay.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Got it? Yeah. Because I do see these pretty crazy conspiracies of Reptilians being politicians, shapeshifters.
Darrell Anka
No, that's not. That's not true.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Not true.
Darrell Anka
No.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Okay.
Darrell Anka
No. There may be vibrational energies that are similar negatively across the board that may attract negative things, but in terms of those conspiracy theories, no. The only thing that is close to that is there are extraterrestrial hybrids that look human that have been working and living among us for decades, that will be revealed to us in open contact so that we can interact with them directly Next year. We'll see.
Conscious Life Expo Host
We'll see. Well, Darrell, this was fun. Anything else you want to close off with here?
Darrell Anka
Just understanding that it really is very important to be who we really are, each of us. It's really the most difficult thing in the world to try and be something you're not. And it really does work. Because even though I before I knew anything at all about Bashar or channeling, and maybe because of the way my soul set this up for this life, I have always just been somebody who will only choose to do things that are representative of my passion. And I've been doing that for over half a century. And it's always supported me. So you do have to get a handle on your beliefs, why you believe what you do, why you may hold on to a negative belief that doesn't serve you and really understand that it's okay to let that go. And if you really are willing to be who you truly are and your soul vibration and be of service to humanity, you're going to get supported in some way, shape or form. It may not be the way you think, but it will be the way that works best for you. And it's always worked that way for me. I know it can work for other people too.
Conscious Life Expo Host
Great advice. Thanks for your time today.
Darrell Anka
Absolutely.
Conscious Life Expo Host
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Episode: DSH #2012
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Darrell Anka (Channel for "Bashar")
Release Date: June 11, 2026
In this thought-provoking episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Darrell Anka at the Conscious Life Expo. Anka is known for channeling "Bashar," an entity he describes as an extraterrestrial from a parallel dimension. The discussion explores profound topics like extraterrestrial contact, the future of human evolution, disclosure, artificial intelligence, and the true nature of reality and consciousness. Anka shares predictions provided through his channeling work and unpacks Bashar’s perspectives on humanity, spiritual growth, and societal transformation.
“Bashar says 2026 is the year of disclosure. He's actually labeled it that way, whereas 27 is the year of contact.”
— Darrell Anka (00:00)
“It's just a mirror of what you're giving it. ... It simulates the idea of consciousness, but it's basically taking everything you're giving it, magnifying and amplifying and augmenting it and feeding it back to you.”
— Darrell Anka (05:16)
“It was never something I thought about. But at one point, a long time ago, I had an experience with dmt. ... By its absence, my fear of death was gone.”
— Darrell Anka (09:12)
“From that point of view, this is the afterlife. ... Our primary existence is non physical.”
— Darrell Anka (10:43)
“What we call destiny is the free will of the soul saying, I'm going to have this kind of a life ... but you have the free will to augment exactly how you go about doing that in life.”
— Darrell Anka (18:33)
“The things that come with this much excitement, passion, creativity, and love, that's your true core frequency.”
— Darrell Anka (19:32)
“The only thing that is close to [reptilians among humans] is there are extraterrestrial hybrids that look human that have been working and living among us for decades, that will be revealed to us in open contact.”
— Darrell Anka (33:19)
“It really is very important to be who we really are, each of us. It's really the most difficult thing in the world to try and be something you're not. And it really does work.”
— Darrell Anka (33:51)
Darrell Anka’s perspectives, as channeled through Bashar, challenge conventional ideas of reality and human evolution. He urges listeners to follow their deepest passions, embrace challenges as opportunities for growth, and prepare for transformative societal events, including the potential for open contact with extraterrestrial beings. The episode combines spiritual insight, speculative cosmology, and practical philosophy, leaving listeners with both cosmic curiosity and grounded encouragement to live authentically.