
| DSH #1997 What really happened after Charlie Kirk’s death, and why are so many people refusing to accept the official story? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean sits down with Jimmy Dore for a raw conversation about Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, Turning Point USA, conservative media, censorship, Trump, Israel, foreign influence, and why Jimmy believes the real fight in America is no longer left vs. right. Jimmy breaks down why he thinks the Charlie Kirk story has too many unanswered questions, why Candace Owens is taking major risks by continuing to investigate, and why he believes some conservative media figures are now protecting institutions they once claimed to oppose. The conversation also gets into Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, the FBI, Jeffrey Epstein, social media censorship, vaccine controversy, Israel, Palestine, AIPAC, billionaire influence, and why younger Americans are becoming more skeptical of the narratives they were raised to believe. This is one of th...
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Hopefully that we get to the bottom of who actually killed Charlie Kirk. I can tell you been killed by a lone nut gunman.
Interviewer/Host
When I see Kash Patel talk about this or anyone from the FBI, just. I don't know. Part of me doesn't trust it.
Jimmy Dore
You know, it's the same people who told us that there were no Jeffrey Epstein files and he wasn't trafficking children to anybody but himself. Why would you not believe those people? People?
Interviewer/Host
Candace is playing in some dangerous territory. Now. The. The hit put on her was pretty eye opening. Did that concern you at all?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I'm concerned that someone's going to take her out. That's what they do. They'll take you out.
Interviewer/Host
Okay, guys, we got Jimmy Dore on the show today. Jimmy, how's it going, man?
Jimmy Dore
Going great, Sean. Thanks for having me.
Interviewer/Host
Absolutely I've been following your coverage with the whole Charlie Kirk stuff. So very excited for this episode.
Jimmy Dore
Oh yeah, it's been quite a ride with this Charlie Kirk stuff. Quite a. Quite a ride. I'm surprised at how many people Israel and that was able to corral in this conservative media to become, as Candace calls them, Mockingbird Media 2.0. It is quite stunning and shocking to me to see all the people who put party before country and that's, you know, that's classic APAC operations. You know, you put something else in front of your country and in front of Americans. I'm honestly, I'm as shocked as I was when the Democrats turned on me over forced to vote. I don't know if you know what that was, but all the progressives since
Guest/Commentator
Nancy Pelosi, by the way in 1994 when she first got into Congress, they were all talking for all. Medicaid for all.
Jimmy Dore
It's always been a mantra on the.
Guest/Commentator
Of the Democrats of Democrats are no longer left.
Jimmy Dore
But that's another story.
Guest/Commentator
And so at a slim majority. You remember when the Republicans Matt Gaetz they had a slim. They forced McCarthy to give them all these concessions so they would. That happened after forced to vote. So what I came up with the idea was that idea but the idea was that we had a slim majority and nomocrats cannot elect a speaker without the votes from the AOC and Ilhan Omar and those types of people. Eight of them, Cori Bush and they could not become speaker without the Freedom Caucus and Nancy Pelosi couldn't become speaker without AOC and all them. So we said the idea of force of forcing a vote for Medicare for all and that you get a vote for Medicare for all on the House floor vote for Nancy Pelosi. That was just one. The reason I picked that was because every party had always agreed on that. In fact, AOC when she was running for we can't even get a vote for Medicare for all on the floor of the House. We can't even get. So we decided to do this thing called force to vote and try to get how at least half the Democratic Party turned the DSA of America. They're not Democratic nor socialists by the way traded CIA op and so that's in their handbook. In their handbook on how to force a vote for Medicare for all on the floor. Opportunity actually came to do that. They all turned on them. They like me and they protected the establishment and they protected the politics. Their own campaign promises and generations of saying we want just so that to me is very similar what's happening right now expected all those mockingbird conservative media people push hey we have to all stop asking questions and fall in line with the I'm sure she was just as stunned as I was during force to vote he abandoned their principles and values to protect politicians the exact same thing right now turning on all there was Charlie Kirk's print never stop asking questions I played that video on my show at least a dozen times I learned from during COVID when they said ivermectin was horse pace when they when they oh two weeks to flatten the curve I learned to and always keep asking questions because it's the only thing that keeps us free Charlie Kirk's legacy they're turning on their own value the FBI and the intelligence communities and and now they're all doing it she must be stunned and I think it's time for people like Ken and people like me who I considered myself a traditional lefty longer is left right the fight is between money and us and the rest of us it is not left
Jimmy Dore
right it's top down while and so
Guest/Commentator
that's a long answer to whatever your
Interviewer/Host
question was no agreed agree with all that I know you just had Candace on your show a few days ago since then she met with Erica yesterday four and a half hour meeting have you spoken to her since the meeting
Guest/Commentator
I have the meeting I don't feel good about that meeting Sean was TP USA Zionist donors and Erica Kirk flipping There's three ways you handle this right as TPUSA and the USA they tried to ignore Candace Owens pointing out contradicting each other and all the anomalies surrounding Charlie Kirks and subsequent FBI investigation you know the things like like they said they were going to they they didn't have anybody watching the other shooter on the roof nobody in the security team
Jimmy Dore
or the police department saw which is
Guest/Commentator
all that stuff so TPUSA they tried the first tactic is you try to no way that didn't work so then they moved into the second round was they they and they tried to discredit
Jimmy Dore
her as a conspiracy theorist and well
Guest/Commentator
why would you pay attention to somebody who's a nut you don't you make fun of the nut so that didn't work either and then their third strategy was to put the greener on a media tour to try to use her to shield them from an investigations by someone like Candace Owens turns out Eric repulsive and she's not very likable and she's got one of his eyes it's like that's her resting face her resting faces.
Jimmy Dore
It's unbelievable.
Guest/Commentator
And so that didn't work right? So she went media she went to Glenn Beck and Lazitis media it didn't work. And then she went on to King Queen Barry Weiss on CBS you know that the Zionist Ellis has 1/6th of the American media plus TikTok so they could put agenda and so she went on that show of course she went on that show push it didn't go well People were repulsed by her and the more suspect suspicious and lying and unlikable and so then on Sunday their Hail Mary was Kirk fly to to Nashville Tennessee to have an with Candace Owens to see if they could fix it that way. So I would take that meeting unless it was on camera but had already predicted that they they were going to try to get what is is the intelligence that Candace Owens knows and does she really know all of our financial shenanigans? Does she really know how much meeting was for and to try to get her to stop her investigation? And so Candace hasn't spoke to me about it yet. She hasn't done her show yet I think a couple hours but she said that she they did share intel. I'm like of course she doesn't.
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Guest/Commentator
get to the bottom of who actually killed Charlie Kirk. I can tell you and killed by a lone nut gunman on a building with a.36 bullet. That didn't happen.
Jimmy Dore
That's not how he I wonder if
Interviewer/Host
we'll ever know or if it will be another JFK situation.
Jimmy Dore
They're certainly doing the JFK cover up.
Guest/Commentator
You know, just like car clean and all that stuff. Well they did the same thing they two days after it, which is a
Jimmy Dore
hallmark of a cover up.
Guest/Commentator
And why is it about that? Why isn't the TP USA Upset that they did the crime scene, which is exactly what they did. Why don't they have questions about. Anyway, there's a million questions. That's just one thing. No matter what Corner Nation story you. You put your focus, you immediately find anomalies, things that shouldn't have happened, that did happen and that don't have a logical.
Interviewer/Host
I just had a guest on yesterday. She was basically saying, no one's seen Tyler at the prison. They've interviewed 20 to 30 different inmates, which is kind of weird, right?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Guest/Commentator
Well, he hurt like, the first two
Jimmy Dore
times they had him just on.
Guest/Commentator
Not even on video. They had him on his toll that the last time they had a court date, he actually appeared in person. So, you know, my fear is they're going to Jeffrey Epstein.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, we all know how that goes, right?
Guest/Commentator
Yeah.
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Tim Pool is not allowed this year. I'm not sure if you saw that. It's going to be a different atmosphere without Charlie.
Jimmy Dore
What?
Guest/Commentator
He's. He's been carrying water for TP USA
Jimmy Dore
as hard as anybody.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, he usually films podcasts there live on stage. He was very close with Charlie. They had arrangements that he was going to be there this year before he passed away. Since then, he's been told by Turning Point that he's not allowed this year.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. So, no, I didn't. I didn't know Charlie. I only said hi to him on the phone one time, and I don't run in those circles, you know, so I didn't know much about Charlie or TP usa. I had no idea how powerful of a political organization he had built and how important it was to Donald Trump's election. And I also, you know, I only heard Nick Fuentes ripping him for being on side of Israel. And then I found out that. Oh, he what? No, he was questioning Israel and his Jewish donors, not not only privately, but publicly and, you know, trying to hold them to account. So, yeah, I. So I didn't really know much about Charlie before his assassination, but now I do. And I wish I would have known him. You know, he. We shared a lot of common interests and I think he was really evolving and I would like to have worked with him on certain things, but, you know, I like his principles of free speech. Which is what? Mockingbird Media Erica Kirk TP USA are all turning on right now. They're trying to silence people. Charlie Kirk's you know, motto was ask me anything, change my mind. Their motto is, well, how dare you ask me something.
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Jimmy Dore
It's, it's quite shocking that people think that this is going to go over and it didn't. And that's why Erica Kirk had to fly to Nashville to have an in person, four and a half hour meeting with Candace Owens. And it's kind of disgusting but it's, it's, it's a mark of a desperate organization and believe me, that's a money at my gut, if my gut is right, they are been they were funneling money. That's a money funneling operation happening at TP USA and Charlie was ordered a thorough Doge style accounting and eight days later he was dead.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, he ordered it a week before I believe. Right?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
Crazy timing on that. Yeah. And they raised, I believe Candace said over $100 million since his death, which is a lot of money.
Jimmy Dore
140. They raised $100 million, and then they had their fundraiser at the Mar? A Largo, which I think was just maybe a week or so ago, and they raised another 40 million in one night. So that's 140 million. And yes, they do have a page. You know, I love how they. Again, it's the laziest, cheapest, dumbest criticism of someone telling the truth and asking questions of the powerful to say, oh, you're making money off this. Yeah, well, that's what news people have to make a living. That's what. So they're not supposed to cover something if they also get paid for it. That's. Nobody's doing this for charity. So that's the dumbest thing in the world. Everybody gets paid to do news, and so that's what they say to her. In the meantime, they're trying to accuse Candace Owens of covering Charlie Kirk's assassination for money and clicks. Meanwhile, they have a page up at their website. Charlie Kirk memorial merch. So you tell me, who's the grifter? Yes, you tell me.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, my God.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. His memorial merch.
Interviewer/Host
That's crazy.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. So you tell me who's the grifter and who's the shady organization? I'll tell you. It's the TP usa. It's Andrew Culvert. It's Ty. Now. I'm blanking on all their names.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, Tyler Boyer.
Jimmy Dore
Tyler Boyer. It's the Amazing Mike, Mikey, Mikey McCoy. It's all those guys. And Mikey McCoy's father. What a. That guy. I wouldn't buy a used car from him, I'll tell you that.
Interviewer/Host
When I met Mikey, he. I think he was Charlie's assistant. Because Mikey got Charlie on my show, like, a year ago, and now he's chief of staff, I believe. So He's. He's pretty high up in that company now.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, Candace says he was in a Truman show, which it certainly looks that way after his death. All those guys, Blake Neff, Tyler Boyer, Andrew Culver, Mikey McCoy, they all seemed like they were placed there by someone to deceive Charlie.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah. Yeah. Candace is playing in some dangerous territory now. The. The hit put on her was pretty eye opening. Did that concern you at all?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I'm concerned that someone's going to take her out. That's what they do. They'll take you out. I mean, they did it right in front of our faces with Jeffrey Epstein, and they lied. They said what? And they did the same thing with Charlie Kirk. You know, it's like, who you gonna. Who are you gonna believe, the FBI or your lying eyes? There's a line from George Orwell's 1984. It said the party told them to ignore the evidence of their eyes and ears. It was their final and most essential command. And that's exactly what the mockingbird conservative media is doing. That's what TP USA is doing. That's what Erica Kirk is doing. That's what the FBI is doing. They want us, they're giving us a command to ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears. And it is their final and most essential command. And I'm not going along with it. And as of today, Candace Owens also is not going along with it. So we'll see what she has to say.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, I know you're not conservative, but there seems to be a massive, just like infighting within the conservative movement right now all because of this issue. I don't know if they'll ever end at this point.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I don't understand. So, yeah, there's the people who are staying true to conservative values and questioning the intelligence community and the establishment narrative, and then there's the people who are completely flipping on conservative values and telling people to shut up, stop acting, asking questions, and put party over country, which is just mind blowing to me to see. And they think they're going to get away with it. Maybe they will. Who knows? But, you know, only 26 or 27% of the country considers themselves a Republican. Just like the same. Only 26 or 27% of the country considers themselves a Democrat. So, you know, they're really. And I'm going to say that at least half of those Republicans are not believing the establishment story about Charlie Kirk. So that leaves them somewhere around 12 to 13% of the country that goes along with them and the overwhelming majority that don't believe this garbage story.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, I mean, it's. When I see Kash Patel talk about this or anyone from the FBI, I just, I don't know. Part of me doesn't trust it, you know?
Jimmy Dore
Well, why? It's the same people who told us that Jeff, there were no Jeffrey Epstein files and he wasn't trafficking children to anybody but himself. Why would you not believe those people for real?
Interviewer/Host
Okay. You mentioned Fuentes earlier. Would you ever have someone like him on your show?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I meant to have him on once before. I didn't know anything about him. Again, it's one of those things where I didn't know about Charlie Kirk. I also didn't know who Nick Fuentes was and how controversial he was in his long history. I really didn't. I only saw a video or two of him ripping Israel and I thought that was interesting for a right winger to go so hard against Israel. So I was going to have him on. And then right before I have him on, the word got out that I was going to have him on and all these people started sending me videos and Jimmy, you don't know what you're, you got to push back on this. And. But I'm like, oh, my God. I didn't want to have that kind of an interview where I have to hold someone's face. I wasn't prepared for it. I didn't know anything about him. So I had, I told him, I called him the morning of our interview and I apologized sincerely. Hey, I'm sorry. This is more, there's more to this interview than I thought was going to be. I just thought we were going to have a fun little, hey, let's listen to the conservative rip on Israel. But there's a lot more to it. And so I will be ripped endlessly if I have you on and I don't address certain issues and push back in the way. And so I didn't, I didn't want to have that kind of, it's not my job to take down Nick Fuentes. Right. I don't want, I don't want to self appoint myself to do that. And second of all, I wasn't prepared for it. So I said, hey, I apologize, I will, you know, get back to you and set this up once I do more research and I'm more prepared for this. And then he just started going on everybody's show anyway. So he, so I was going to be like the first one, and then, but then he went on, I think he went on PBD's podcast and then he went on Tucker Carlson's podcast. I think he went on Dave Smith's podcast. Yeah, he went on the Red Scare podcast. Got that girl fired from Hollywood and, But no, I, I, you know, I'd be welcome to have him back on for, I mean, I'm not back on, but yeah, I'm, I'm still planning on having him on. And I just hate the fact that now it's like a big deal and I have to prepare for it. I didn't feel like doing that. I don't feel like, I don't want to be the guy to have to, you know, confront Nick Fuente. It's not my, that's not what I feel like doing, there's other things I'd rather do. And so somehow I got myself in this position. So now I, I'm gonna be, I'm honor my word. I'm going to invite him back. I'm gonna invite him on the show and we'll have a conversation and we'll see how it goes.
Interviewer/Host
Did you watch his appearance on Piers Morgan?
Jimmy Dore
I did not watch his appearance on Piers Morgan. I did see one little clip where, I mean, Fuentes is funny, right? I mean he's funny and he's compelling and he's, he's likable and he's also off putting at the same time. But I saw the clip where he said, are you, are you really making jokes about the Holocaust? And Nick said, too soon. Well, I think, of course you can make jokes about the Holocaust. You can make jokes about everything. We make jokes, I mean, made jokes about my grandfather's death at the funeral. That's called gallows humor. It's called gallows humor. That's how people get through things. I'm a comedian. That's why there's a term called gallows humor. That's what that is. And when I started comedy, one of my favorite jokes was a Holocaust joke. I saw a guy, a guy on stage say, said, yeah, you know, I'll never forget the Holocaust. My grandfather died in the Holocaust. He got, oh wow. He got drunk and fell out of a guard tower. Anyway, that's the joke. That's how funny that. So that was the joke that someone told when I first started comedy. I remember like, oh, that's funny. Yeah, my grandfather died in the Holocaust. He got drunk and fell out of a guard tower. That's a funny joke.
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You can make jokes and so anyway. Yeah, so I didn't see the rest of that interview. How'd it go?
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He was basically trying to do gotcha moments, the whole interview. Accused his father being racist, accused him of being racist. All the classic boomer stuff, you know.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, yeah, I didn't see it.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, I don't know. It was pretty much an attack. But Nick knew that going in, and I think he handled it well, and I think people sided with him on that interview. But I'd love for you to have him on. I think you could probably bring him and Candace back together too, which would be good.
Guest/Commentator
Okay.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I'm not. Okay, we'll see.
Interviewer/Host
He's had some issues with Candace and Tucker, but yeah, he's.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, he's. He's been ripping Candace and, you know, it seems, it seems silly to me, but, you know, it's. It. You know, he's. He's. He likes to be provocative. He certainly. And he certainly is very successful at doing that. And so good for him.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, he's got a younger audience for sure. Who do you see as the biggest threat to America right now?
Jimmy Dore
I would say apac, and I would say the billionaire class. I would say that. I would say those two things. And Donald Trump fits in both of those. So. Yeah, I mean, right now they're exploding the deficit. And remember when they, when they give an extra $200 billion to the Pentagon, that goes right into the pockets of the billionaires, that goes into the pockets of Palantir, that goes into the pockets of Alex Karp, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, that goes right in their pockets, out of our treasury. It makes our dollar worth less money. It explodes our deficit, and it's for. And so this is how all empires end. This is. This is late stage Empire, what we're in. So they're draining. They're not. And if it'd be one thing if they were spending that money and building high speed rail and new schools and parks and roadways and water and infrastructure and getting the lead out of our pipes and getting the fluoride out of our wall all if it would be one thing if they were spending that money on making our country better, but they're not. They're taking that money. They're taking it out of America, putting it into the pockets of international billionaires and starting wars left and right. And let's remember what Julian Assange taught us. These wars are not meant to be won. They're Meant to be ongoing, which when, you know, that's why they had the Afghanistan war for 20 years. And when Joe Biden was ending that war, the Democrats were patting him on the back and cheering on. I said, well, wait a minute, let's wait and see what is.
Guest/Commentator
He.
Jimmy Dore
Has he told us what he's gonna do with the money they're spending in Afghanistan now that we're not gonna be spending that money in Afghanistan anymore? Let's wait and see what he says. And of course, they didn't. That money that they were spending in Afghanistan, they just doubled and quadrupled and send it to Ukraine. Legit Nazis, by the way. And so that was also. They had another war in the, in the chamber ready. And now they have Venezuela war. And if Trump does that, it'll have to be a land invasion and it'll turn into a Vietnam right in our own hemisphere. And so Trump is betraying maga. He's betraying it. And so when you see these social influencers like cocktail and people like that on Twitter who are saying, I'm loyal to Donald Trump, they're just telling on themselves, well, you're a chump. You're in a cult. Then you're not supposed to be loyal to a politician, you moron. Politicians are supposed to be loyal to you. And when they betray you and go against what they campaigned on, you're supposed to be man enough to stand up and hold them accountable. You're not supposed to just turn your head and look the other way. That's what a cult person does. That's what a cock person does. And that's what people like in the Mockingbird right wing media are doing right now. It's, they're going after people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson for actually standing on principle and values. And that's why the conservative movement is in disarray right now, because half the conservatives have betrayed their own values.
Interviewer/Host
It's getting harder and harder to defend Trump. I think if we're being honest, you
Jimmy Dore
know, I don't know how you could betray. Everything he's done is the opposite of what he said he would do. He's, you know, it's not, he's not even, you know, if he was serious about getting rid of illegal. He's doing the worst kind of illegal immigration enforcement you could possibly do. He's militarizing our cities. You know, they did that big raid in Chicago where they, they, they arrested like everybody in that apartment. I think it was like 900 arrests or some crazy, you know, you Know how many charges there were? 0.
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Jimmy Dore
0. 0. So they bring in, you know, Apache helicopters and they come down in the middle of the night. Everybody's dressed like they're at the, in Afghanistan. And, and they, all they're doing is they're doing this for show. Right. Because the real deal is that Donald Trump is not upsetting the farming industry, he's not upsetting the meatpacking industry, he's not upsetting the hotel industry. He's not going to do that. He even said he's not going to do that. So they have to make big shows of it. And that's what they're doing. When they arrest people on the street, when they do these midnight raids in apartment buildings, and when they pretend that America is under threat by trend, which we're not. That was all part of a pro war propaganda campaign to get people ready for our invasion and the regime change war in Venezuela.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah. And it does seem the propaganda from the Zionists lately seems to be attacking Islam, which I'm sure you've seen. What do you think about that? How they're trying to demonize that movement?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, isn't it interesting? Well, they do, they're, they're, you know, they're, they do a false flag and blame it on their enemies. The immediately after the false flag in Australia, if, again, why would you want to kill Jews in Australia if Australia just recognized. If you're a Muslim, why would you be angry at Jews in Australia if Australia just said they recognized the Palestinian state? That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't they go to Israel and kill Jews just like isis? And by the way, they say they're isis. Well, we all know that ISIS is actually working with Israel in Syria. Right. And so when an ISIS fighter would get wounded, they would go to Israel and Israel would fix them up to give them medical attention. Wow. So they're working together. And the head of Syria is now ex Al Qaeda. The head of Al Qaeda inside Syria. So Al Qaeda and isis, the United States and Israel are all working together. They probably always have been working together. The Arab Spring was not a genuine grassroots movement that was astroturfed by the CIA, we now know. And so that was a dirty war in Syria. So this whole idea immediately, I don't know if you saw, but immediately after the shooting in Australia, the United States said, well, if this is funded by Iran, Israel has the green light to attack them. So when you do that, within, within 24 hours, turn that some, some guy shooting people in Australia into Israel's going to attack Iran. We know this was exactly what this was. This was a false flag to give. Just like October 7th was partly engineered by Israel so that they could use it as an excuse to go in and steal all the land, ethnically cleanse Gaza and the west bank of the Palestinians. And that's what they. Exactly what they did. It's obvious. That's what they did. It's obvious that they gave a stand down order. That's another thing Charlie Kirk was speaking out against. And they couldn't have it. Right. And so they were. He was. They gave a stand down order. They knew about Hamas's plans to attack for over a year. And that's according to the New York Times. Nobody denies that. And then they made sure that Hamas was funded over the PLO who did that? Benjamin Netanyahu and, and the Likud party. And so this is all. This is how they wrote. This is how they roll. And once you see behind the curtain, you can't unsee it. And now you. And now when they do this, you know they were trying to say that Hamas is going to start attacking inside of Europe. Right. And as soon as they said that, I'm like, oh, if Mossad's getting ready to do some false flags. Because that's what, that's. That's how they roll. And they immediately, by the way, Candace Owens predicted that in the second week of December.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
They would do a false flag. And they exactly did. Because they really want that war with Iran.
Interviewer/Host
Man, she's got some great sources because she predict that weeks ago and people were commenting saying, you're crazy. Like, what do you. What are you saying?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. So November. And she even. It was on November 28th she tweeted that out and she said this tweet will age well. And boy, did it.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, it did very well.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
You look into the money flow behind some of these terrorist organizations. It is very alarming. Sean Ryan exposed. I think it was Al Qaeda. Taliban. Yeah. U.S. was paying them somehow. So it's really weird.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. I mean, limited hangout. Sean Ryan CIA podcast. Yeah. Did you see his interview with the head of Charlie Kirk security?
Guest/Commentator
It was actually.
Interviewer/Host
Didn't.
Jimmy Dore
I didn't is laughable.
Interviewer/Host
Was it a softball interview?
Jimmy Dore
A hundred percent. Yes.
Interviewer/Host
Wow. Yeah. He is Xcia. And you know what they say about Xcia.
Jimmy Dore
They never act. The only guy who might be ex CIA is John Kariaku because they actually put him in prison for exposing the torture program. So he actually did time. So maybe, maybe he's the Only if there, if there is an ex CIA who's truly ex CIA. I would, I would say he's probably the only guy I get asked all the time.
Interviewer/Host
I'm sure you get emails too about former Xcia trying to get on the podcast. And I'm always kind of a little, you know, suspicious about that.
Jimmy Dore
I do, I do. I do not get that.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, you don't get those?
Jimmy Dore
Nope. And I don't get. I used to get Trump administration people always emailing me to come on like Tulsi Gabbard and who's the head of the. The cdc. What's the fda? Bruce Makari. Okay, the, the head of the cdc. Why am I break blanking on his name? But he was on the show a couple of times and so now it's just an RFK Jr. He was on my show a couple of times and then as soon as they won the election, radio silence.
Interviewer/Host
And now they're very.
Jimmy Dore
They only do pro Zionist media now. So they'll go on PBD's podcast, they'll go on Megyn Kelly, they'll even go on Tim Pool, but they won't go on. They'll go on CNN and MSNBC and Fox because those are all pro Zionist, right?
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
But they won't come on my show because I'm anti Zionist. And that's. That pretty much seems like that's the rule.
Interviewer/Host
Have you faced any social media censorship lately?
Jimmy Dore
I've. I've gotten. Yeah, I got kicked off Tick Tock.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, I get. Ever since Ellison's takeover of Tick Tock, I get every five videos gets deleted. I was banned a few, few times already, so it sucks.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I'm kind of done with Tik Tok. We. We were banned three times. We got kicked off three times and we would just create a new account each time. But now I'm just, I think I'm pretty done with it. So I think a lot of people are going to be done with Tik Tok. I can't believe that somebody else just can't invent another Tik Tok. I. I don't understand. Why is it so hard to create. Just go create a Tik Tok, you know, is.
Guest/Commentator
It's just.
Jimmy Dore
I don't get it. Like rumble did. Did YouTube rumble's been. Been able to. And no, it's not as. It doesn't run as smoothly as YouTube, but it runs pretty close.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, Instagram reels is decent. I would say that's similar to TikTok. But my worry is if other Social media platforms start doing what TikTok does. It could really affect us, you know.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, well, they'll. Believe me. They're just going to crack down harder on Facebook and Instagram reels if they, you know, that's. They've already done it, you know, and so they'll do it again. And Elon Musk is also a Zionist. So right now he seems to be holding. I got to give him props. He really did bring a certain level of free speech to Twitter. It's not 100%, but it's a, it's about a thousand percent better than it was before him, that's for sure.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
And, and YouTube is reinstated. A lot of people they reinstated, like Jackson Hinkle, they admitted that they were pressured by the White House to, to censor people. I was one of those people that they censored and I got, they took down five of my videos about COVID that were actually contained correct factual information,
Guest/Commentator
but they just didn't win.
Jimmy Dore
They called it mal information, which means it's true, but they don't want, they don't want people to know about it. And so I, I requested they reinstate those videos. After they sent that letter, YouTube or Google sent that letter to the, to the congressional committee admitting that they were doing that and that they would stop censoring people and they would reinstate. So I petitioned them to reinstate those videos and they did.
Interviewer/Host
Nice. Yeah. Shout out to you for being outspoken about the vaccines. I saw a couple days ago you interviewed someone about it.
Jimmy Dore
So, yeah, I got vaccine injured. I got vaccine injured in April of 2021. And then I got, I went into a treatment group. This guy was, was treating a bunch of people who were vaccine injured. And the first thing he gave me was Ivermectin. And I was like, hey, I thought this is horse pace. And then he explained to me that, no, Jimmy, this is actually a Nobel Prize winning medicine and it's less dangerous than Tylenol and it's on the WHO list of essential medicines. And I'm like, why would they call it horse pace? And he said because if it treats Covid, they can't get the emergency use authorization for their vaccine, so they have to demonize it and try to discredit it. And that's. They did the same thing with hydroxychloroquine. And so there you go. So that's the game, and that's the game that Foushee played during AIDS at this also. And that's why there was a movie called the Dallas Buyers Club. If you've ever seen that movie, you should watch it, because it's all about. Fauci is the devil in that one. He's the bad guy. And I don't know if you know, but that's the movie Matthew McConaughey won an Academy Award for. And of course, that Matthew McConaughey is completely silent on Covid. The only person to talk about it was Woody Harrelson on Saturday Night Live when he described what was going on perfectly. And Tim Robbins. That was the only two people in Hollywood I've heard say anything about it.
Interviewer/Host
Interesting. Yeah, a lot of people were scared to speak up, especially in Hollywood. And Fauci got that preemptive pardon. So he's chilling these days. Nothing's gonna happen to him. Crazy, right?
Jimmy Dore
Crazy.
Interviewer/Host
Millions of lives. Millions of lives. Unreal. The Zionist movement. Let's close off with that. So the younger generation, my generation is increasingly becoming skeptical. I think a majority of them actually favor Palestine these days, according to recent polls. Have you seen that?
Jimmy Dore
Yes.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, that's. That's pretty interesting. The older guys are still slowly converting, but it does seem like over time, the truth is coming out.
Jimmy Dore
Well, you know, you're.
Guest/Commentator
It's because you.
Jimmy Dore
You're not even told to think about it. You're. You're told. This is how you think about it. And somehow being a good Christ means that you support Israel. I never understood that. And it turns out it doesn't make any sense. And they try to say, well, in the Bible, Jesus said, you have to defend Israel. Well, he didn't mean fricking the state of Israel, the government. In fact, he doesn't even think. Use the word Israel. So that's what Tucker Carlson exposed when Ted Cruz tried to push that BS on him. And God didn't mean that the government of Benjamin Netanyahu. That's crazy. So. And you know, Israel is built on stolen land. And as Christopher Hitchens, who, by the way, was. Was no lover of the Muslims or Islam, he was pro Iraq War, for f sake. He said that the idea of putting an Israeli home state on Palestinian farmland was always a bad idea. It never made sense. And because you're going to be an occupying force, and so you're going to be constantly at war, which is exactly what they've been. They're an occupying force. And according to the un, if you're being occupied, you have the right to use violence to fight back against your occupiers. And they never tell you that on corporate news, right?
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, it's the age of information war now, I think. But people are realizing the truth. So I think over time it'll be good 100%. Jimmy, thanks for your time, man. Anything else you want to close off with here? Where could people watch your show and go to your comedy shows?
Jimmy Dore
Well, you can see me in Waikiki on January 11. You can see me in Los Angeles at the comedy store on January 30th. More dates coming in February, March, and on that, we'll probably be up in Michigan in February and other places. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for those tickets. And of course, you can go to jimmy dore.com to become a premium member. Watch all my premium content, catch me on YouTube and rumble. Thanks for having me on.
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Digital Social Hour #1997 Summary
Episode Title: He Just Exposed Charlie Kirk's Cover-Up Story...
Date: June 3, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Featured Guest: Jimmy Dore (comedian, commentator)
This episode of the Digital Social Hour dives into the controversial circumstances surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, alleged cover-ups within Turning Point USA (TPUSA), internal conflicts among conservative media figures, and broader issues of free speech, media integrity, and power structures in America. With comedian and political commentator Jimmy Dore as the featured guest, Sean Kelly leads an unfiltered, no-holds-barred conversation that scrutinizes official narratives, highlights institutional failings, and questions who controls the national conversation.
(03:33, 05:12, 13:20, 18:15, 20:12, 20:31)
Murder & Official Narrative: The hosts talk openly about skepticism surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, stating disbelief in the “lone nut gunman” theory and drawing parallels to historic cover-ups like JFK.
Interference & Suppression: Dore claims that TPUSA leaders and “conservative Mockingbird Media” urge people to “stop asking questions,” labeling truth-seekers as conspiracy theorists. They apparently attempt to stifle Candace Owens for asking uncomfortable questions about internal finances and security failures.
Financial Motives: It’s noted that TPUSA raised $140 million after Kirk’s death, including $40 million in a single fundraiser, while all the while accusing critics like Candace Owens of grifting.
Suspicious Behavior: The episode discusses lack of transparency about the accused shooter Tyler’s status, suspicious behavior by security, and an urgent, secretive in-person meeting between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk.
(04:20, 07:54, 15:01, 21:33, 22:35, 25:14, 27:51)
Media Division: The conservative movement is depicted as fractured, with a split between “traditional” values—questioning power, valuing free speech—and those prioritizing party loyalty or special interests.
Echoes on the Left: Dore draws direct parallels to events on the progressive left (‘Force the Vote’ on Medicare for All), seeing similar patterns of abandonment of values to protect establishment figures.
Marginalization: Critics of the official narrative (Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene) are under attack from their own side.
Declining Trust: Both parties have shrinking loyalist bases, and Dore claims only about 12–13% of the country believes establishment stories about Charlie Kirk’s death.
(04:20, 28:22, 32:46, 32:55, 35:38, 42:05)
AIPAC & War Economy: Dore criticizes the influence of AIPAC and the billionaire class, asserting that endless wars enrich the few at the expense of the American public.
Propaganda & False Flags: Discussion covers how governments use disinformation and manufactured crises (false flags), linking this phenomenon to current events in Israel/Palestine and the wider ‘War on Terror.’
Changing Public Opinion: Younger generations are increasingly pro-Palestine; Dore attributes this to more people seeing beyond propaganda.
(38:00, 39:24, 40:18, 41:48)
Social Media Suppression: Both agree platforms like TikTok and YouTube are clamping down on dissent, though there’s some progress in reinstating censored voices.
Vaccine Discourse: Dore shares his own vaccine injury and frustration with suppression of COVID dissenting voices, recounting personal experience with Ivermectin and the framing of “horse paste” by authorities.
(25:14, 25:16, 28:09, 37:53)
Nick Fuentes Discussion: Dore explains why he postponed an interview with Nick Fuentes and the complexities of booking highly controversial figures.
Orwellian Parallels: Dore quotes 1984 to characterize attempts at forced groupthink.
Cultural Shifts: They discuss the migration of political figures to more friendly media and how anti-Zionist voices are systematically excluded, especially post-election.
"They want us, they're giving us a command to ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears. And it is their final and most essential command. And I'm not going along with it. And as of today, Candace Owens also is not going along with it." (20:39, Jimmy Dore)
“Everybody gets paid to do news... In the meantime, they're accusing Candace Owens of covering Charlie Kirk's assassination for money... Meanwhile, they have a page at their website—Charlie Kirk memorial merch. So you tell me, who's the grifter?” (19:33, Jimmy Dore)
“It's not left vs. right—it's top down. It's the billionaire class vs. us.” (07:54, Jimmy Dore)
“There’s the people who are staying true to conservative values… then there’s the people who are completely flipping… telling people to shut up, stop acting, asking questions, and put party over country, which is just mind-blowing to me.” (21:43, Jimmy Dore)
“You’re not supposed to be loyal to a politician… Politicians are supposed to be loyal to you… When they betray you, you’re supposed to stand up and hold them accountable.” (30:40, Jimmy Dore)
“According to the UN, if you're being occupied you have the right to use violence to fight back against your occupiers. And they never tell you that on corporate news.” (43:16, Jimmy Dore)
This episode is a wide-ranging, provocative takedown of establishment narratives—across both political parties—as well as the influence of powerful lobbies, the media's role in upholding the status quo, and the relentless pursuit of truth in the face of coordinated suppression. Jimmy Dore pulls no punches, particularly regarding the assassinaton and cover-up of Charlie Kirk, and urges listeners to keep asking questions, whatever the cost. The episode ends with Dore promoting upcoming tour dates and platforms for his content.
For more, visit JimmyDore.com or listen to the full episode on Digital Social Hour.