B (2:07)

It costs way more. Right.

A (2:08)

100%.

B (2:09)

When you run ads, people don't know you. Yeah.

A (2:12)

If you are trying to create the product before you have an understanding, if the market even wants it, you're already losing.

B (2:19)

Yeah. Got to spend months, sometimes years building trust with your followers. I feel like a lot of people try to sell from day one.

A (2:25)

Exactly.

B (2:26)

I still haven't even sold a product officially. You know what I mean? I. I'm just building that trust.

A (2:32)

And you've definitely built the trust to sell.

B (2:35)

Yeah, I feel like I'm getting to that point now where people trust me. I take health pretty serious. So if I were to put out a product, it would be very high quality.

A (2:42)

You know, what's great about you, Sean, is that you're very authentic. Appreciate that, you know, and, and, and that energy is, is felt, you know, it's. It's real.

B (2:51)

Speaking of energy, we're gonna talk about psychedelics here. Let's do it. I gotta hear how you got into this, what, what the energy change was like after. And tell me about your. Your journey.

A (3:00)

I guess so. I've. I've always been into. Into psychedelics. You know, at a young age I did acid, lsd, ecstasy, but all recreational. Right. Nothing in a controlled environment. So I've always heard the ayahuasca calling. You know, I feel like if you're going to do something like that, you have to hear the calling. Don't just go because you think it's a trend or it's cool. You really have to hear that calling. And what do I mean by that is like, all right, you start thinking about it more, you start doing your research, you start going deeper. You start meeting people who have actually done it. Right. The door starts opening up. So I heard the calling. In 2024, I went down to Dr. In the jungles of Dr. A beautiful location in the mountains, a place called Oya. And I had a private ceremony with a shaman that flew from Brazil specifically for my ceremony.

B (3:56)

So it's just you and him?

A (3:57)

Just me and him.

B (3:57)

Because I know people do it in a group setting.

A (3:59)

Yeah. No.

B (3:59)

Always sketch me out.

A (4:00)

I agree. Because you. I don't want that mixed. Exactly. I don't want that mixed energy.

B (4:04)

Because I've done it. Psychedelics are creationally growing up. And I would always be fine, you know, but then if someone were to have some bad trip or bad moment, it kind of rubs off on you.

A (4:13)

Exactly. So I specifically paid for a private ceremony.

B (4:17)

Right.

A (4:17)

So it was just me and him. And I feel like mother Ayahuasca punched me right in the face, you know, I didn't. That time I didn't see colors. I didn't leave this realm. I was very earth grounding based. But it was very intense emotionally. Right. The layers that she was peeling back was layers of me being a womanizer. Right. Of drug abuse that I had growing up. And I was really Able to shed. I'll tell you a story. I'll tell you exactly what occurred. This literally physically occurred. I'm in the middle of my ceremony. I'm in there maybe two, three hours in. I'm like two and a half cups in of ayahuasca. And there was a chef in at the center that was there to cook for me. Right. She drank an entire bottle of wine, was butt naked and attacked me literally during my ceremony.

B (5:14)

Oh, my God.

A (5:14)

Yeah. She grabbed me from the back.

B (5:16)

I did not expect that.

A (5:17)

And, and, and, and, and whispered in my ear, I got you, don't worry. And then she flipped around onto my front with her boobs right on me, looking at me, saying, how big is it? Show it to me. My shaman looked at me and goes, is that your wife? I'm like, no, it's not my wife. He goes, she has to leave immediately. She's completely interrupting our ceremony. I gave her a big hug. I said, you gotta go. You're really interrupting my ceremony. She got up, she left. My shaman re blessed the circle because it was broken.

B (5:52)

Yeah.

A (5:53)

And man, after that, I took off and I cried for three hours.

B (5:57)

Holy crap.

A (5:58)

Yeah. That emotional release of that, that being faced with that reality of you had this energy in you. I'm going to put this energy in somebody else and show you that energy face to face.

B (6:13)

That's where you think happen.

A (6:14)

Correct.

B (6:14)

Wow.

A (6:15)

And you're going to come face to face with it and you're going to realize the energy that you've been putting out there.

B (6:20)

Interesting. Yeah.

A (6:21)

After that, it was a total change for me. I really felt the heaviness of the weight of what was shown to me, and I was able to really collect myself and really start fresh.

B (6:33)

Interesting. Alas, you were basically a womanizer. You said.

A (6:36)

I was and you were. I really was. Do you think you were just so I've been with my wife for 20 years, and throughout those 20 years, we got together at 18, we've been married for 10 years. And throughout those years, I was someone that was very immature, didn't quite understand where I fit what I was doing. And chasing tail was what I was into.

B (6:57)

Yeah.

A (6:57)

You know, and it got to a point where I had to come to, to that, to that realization of what do I want? What kind of a man do I want to be? Right. I have two boys. What kind of a father do I want to be for them? What kind of example do, do, do I want to set for these two boys? Right. So part of this ayahuasca journey Was coming to this realization. Right. Coming to this truth of, of, of who I was, accepting it, forgiving myself, asking others for forgiveness and moving on.

B (7:29)

Yeah. It seems like a lot of young men struggle with that though.

A (7:31)

Yeah, a lot of young men.

B (7:32)

I wonder if it's a biological thing or what's going on. Exactly.

A (7:36)

I would say some of it is biological.

B (7:38)

Like we want to reproduce, right? Yeah.

A (7:40)

We want to get out of our system. You know, I think men can I curse?

B (7:44)

Yeah.

A (7:45)

I, I think men just want to sometimes, you know, But I think men don't understand that there are boundaries that are required. Right. That like if you make having sex your priority, all you're doing is giving out your energy. Right. And you're depleting your cup, which really takes away from you creating. Because your sex energy is your life force energy.

B (8:10)

Right.

A (8:11)

And the more you deplete that energy, the less you have to go create. That's the truth. So what do you want to do in life? Do you want to be rich, do you want to be successful? Or do you want to chase tail? Yeah, that's the truth. Because you have one energy source, right. And if you're going to deplete it with women, you're not going to have any for, for the rest.

B (8:30)

Yeah, it is interesting. People that have a lot of sex seem to be drained.

A (8:34)

Yeah, you are. You're literally draining yourself, right?

B (8:37)

Yeah. But people don't connect that to like a spiritual thing ever.

A (8:40)

No. So there's a practice called tantra.

B (8:43)

Yeah.

A (8:44)

So tantra is really the art of self love. Okay. So part of male tantric practices, they teach you how to control your semen. They teach you how to control your orgasm and have an internal orgasm. You can still have the feeling of orgasm, but you don't come.

B (9:04)

Wow.

A (9:05)

Right. It stays in. So you, so you harness that power

B (9:08)

and you've been able to perfect that.

A (9:10)

I wouldn't say perfect it, but, but I do dabble with it.

B (9:14)

Okay.

A (9:14)

Okay. So I've, I've, I've, I've, I've realized that being able to keep my power gives me more energy, gives me more focus, gives me more clarity. So if, if, if young men are, are, are truly wanting to cross that barrier. Right. So every guy goes through several phases. You got the warrior phase and you got the master phase. Right. The warrior phase is between 20 and 35, where you're the hunter and you're hunting. Right. And you go create. You get to a certain age where you're 35 to 40 and you start transitioning into that master, into that teacher. And that's really one of the toughest transitions to go from warrior to master.

B (9:56)

Interesting.

A (9:56)

Because you got to have that ego death. You have to let go of being the hunter. You got to let go of chasing. And now you got to teach and be the example and lead. Yeah, right. So this has been my journey. I'm 38, and I'm really at that crossroad of going from warrior to master.

B (10:16)

How old were you during the ayahuasca trip?

A (10:18)

I was 35.

B (10:19)

And you had an ego death.

A (10:20)

Yeah, total.

B (10:22)

Wow. Was your ego pretty high?

A (10:24)

Yeah, man. Yeah, pretty high. I was very cocky. I thought. I thought very highly of myself.

B (10:30)

Because you were a self made millionaire and.

A (10:31)

Exactly, exactly. The first one in my family, you know, immigrant from Brazil, you know, that. That really got to my head.

B (10:38)

Yeah.

A (10:38)

You know, but it was good. It was a good reality check.

B (10:40)

Yeah, yeah. It's a constant battle, you know, because

A (10:43)

you see these, you got to humble yourself.

B (10:44)

Yeah. You have to. But for me, like, you see these views, you see these numbers, it's very easy to get, you know, an ego.

A (10:50)

Exactly.

B (10:50)

You got to constantly be aware of it 100%.

A (10:53)

Because you know what? If you don't, someone else will.

B (10:57)

Yeah, yeah. If you're not constantly learning, someone will check you. You're moving back behind.

A (11:02)

Yeah.

B (11:02)

You're not constantly trying to better yourself.

A (11:04)

Exactly. So in January of this year, I did something called shangha.

B (11:10)

I haven't heard of that one.

A (11:11)

So Shangha is a blend of herbs. Okay. It was 24 different herb mixtures which included three different ayahuasca vines.

B (11:21)

Holy crap.

A (11:22)

Yeah. Together with 21 other herbs to support the ayahuasca vine. Got it. So you smoke it out of a bong. Okay. I took three hits, and this took me to a completely different dimension.

B (11:36)

Out of your body.

A (11:37)

Complete. Complete.

B (11:38)

Was it instant as soon as you took the third?

A (11:40)

Pretty much. So after the second hit, I already saw colors and shapes and. And the shaman in front of me had five different heads. Right. So after the third hit, I instantly closed my eyes and fell back and I was gone. And it took me to a realm that I've. After doing some research, I've heard that a lot of other people have been in that realm as well.

B (12:05)

Really?

A (12:05)

A very colorful realm where you see a Buddha type figure welcoming you. He welcomed me and told me that, listen, I know you've always wanted to see this. I know that you've always wanted to experience this, but understand that this here is not for you. Are earth based. I'm going to let you enjoy this, but don't get used to it. That was a clear message to me that was given to me. And then I was in pure bliss for about 20 minutes.

B (12:33)

Was that heaven or what was that?

A (12:34)

Yeah, man. It felt like never ending bliss and happiness and joy.

B (12:43)

And were the people you saw in that realm physical bodies or light bodies?

A (12:49)

A good question. They were. They looked physical, but everything was moving so fast. I'm not sure if they were made out of light or not, but they were definitely. It. It looked physical.

B (13:02)

I've heard the higher dimensions are more light based things, you know, so that's why I asked that. Yeah, I think you were out.

A (13:07)

There was definitely a lot of lights, a lot of colors, a lot of shapes, a lot of geometry. And the music that was playing.

B (13:17)

There was music.

A (13:18)

Well, in. In the actual location where I was at, the music helped you go deeper. It took you even deeper.

B (13:25)

Yeah, music's powerful. Yeah, very powerful.

A (13:27)

Every time you took a deep breath, you went deeper and deeper and deeper. There was no escaping it.

B (13:32)

I want to look into this. You should do, Sean, the ayahuasca. The. The thing I have with that is you throw up a lot. Right. Because you're drinking the. The drink and it's toxic, but if

A (13:41)

you smoke it, you don't have to throw up.

B (13:43)

Did you throw up?

A (13:44)

No.

B (13:44)

Oh, okay.

A (13:45)

So throwing up only occurs if you didn't cleanse your body properly prior to ayahuasca.

B (13:51)

Oh, got it.

A (13:52)

So usually the proper way to do it is first you do combo. Have you heard of combo?

B (13:56)

That's the toad.

A (13:56)

The frog poison.

B (13:57)

Yeah.

A (13:58)

Where you put the dots in your body, they burn the dots and they put the prison in your body. So that will cleanse you for ayahuasca.

B (14:03)

Got it. Mother.

A (14:04)

Ayahuasca needs your body pure in order for it for. For her to work on you.

B (14:10)

Yeah, I know some people go vegan before, too.

A (14:12)

Exactly. So if you were drinking, if you were smoking, if you were eating meat prior to ayahuasca, she has to cleanse you first before she works on you.

B (14:21)

Wow, that's pretty crazy, the fact that just meat does that to the body.

A (14:25)

100%.

B (14:25)

So are you vegetarian?

A (14:27)

I am not.

B (14:27)

You're not?

A (14:28)

I'm Brazilian. I'm a. I love meat. But I do go on a vegan diet a week prior to doing ayahuasca or things like that.

B (14:37)

Yeah, I think. Yeah, Agreed. The thing with meat is if. If it's high quality, you know.

A (14:41)

Oh, yeah.

B (14:42)

It's it's not as bad. No.

A (14:43)

I mean, these days, I don't know, Sean. It's really hard to. To. To. To. To know what's real and what's not nowadays. What's good, what's bad. I. I do know that if I like it, I'm gonna enjoy it. And I'm not gonna think too much about it.

B (14:57)

I feel that. Yeah.

A (14:58)

You know what I mean?

B (14:58)

You really don't know Brian Johnson. Talk about this like, even organic is bs. Glass bottles.

A (15:03)

I saw that the other day.

B (15:05)

Yeah, glass bottles. There's more microplastics in some of them, which is crazy because of the bottle cap. So you really never know.

A (15:12)

It's a crazy world we live in.

B (15:14)

Yeah. I think when you focus on it and freak out about it makes it worse.

A (15:17)

I agree. I agree. Listen, control what you can. Whatever you can't put in God's hands and let it be.

B (15:24)

Yeah. Did you meet God on any of these journeys?

A (15:26)

I did. I met God during Shangha. That was God talking to me.

B (15:29)

So you saw him or you just heard him?

A (15:31)

I saw him as a Buddha type figure.

B (15:32)

Got it. So are you.

A (15:34)

That's how he came to. I am not. I was raised Catholic. My wife is Jewish, but I don't really fall under any religion.

B (15:41)

Interesting.

A (15:42)

I do believe in the words of Jesus. I do follow his teachings, but I'm not tied down to any religion.

B (15:51)

Okay, so the fact that you saw Buddha is pretty interesting.

A (15:54)

Yes. You know, I do think that my subconscious somehow sees Buddha as a holy figure.

B (15:59)

Yeah. That's fascinating because I know some people that are Christian will report seeing Jesus. Some people that are Jewish report seeing whoever.

A (16:06)

Right.

B (16:06)

So that's fascinating.

A (16:07)

That, isn't it?

B (16:08)

Yeah. You didn't see the one tied to the religion you. No.

A (16:10)

And I also saw, now that you mention it, this Hindu figure with the. With the three legs crossed in the shape of a triangle. I saw that figure as well.

B (16:21)

Sacred geometry.

A (16:22)

Yes.

B (16:23)

I wonder if you had some past lives related to those. Do you believe in past lives?

A (16:26)

I do.

B (16:27)

Yeah.

A (16:27)

So do I. I've been told that I was in Atlantis and I was a head counsel for a judicial court in Atlantis.

B (16:42)

I could see that. You give me old soul energy. I'm sure you hear that a lot.

A (16:45)

Yeah, I do.

B (16:46)

Yeah.

A (16:46)

Yeah. I have a spiritual guide. Him is Dr. Mariam that I work with.

B (16:49)

Oh, yeah.

A (16:50)

She's a 81 year old Russian lady who's been doing this for over 50 years.

B (16:55)

Past life regression.

A (16:56)

She is, yeah.

B (16:57)

I've done a few of those. Those are fascinating.

A (16:59)

They really are.

B (17:00)

They've.

A (17:01)

What did you learn?

B (17:02)

I was skeptical at first. You know what I mean? I didn't believe in hypnosis. I tried a couple that do the hypnosis method, and it didn't work. But then I tried one that didn't need to put you under hypnosis. I don't know what kind of style your. Your doctor does, but that. That worked.

A (17:15)

Really.

B (17:16)

Immediate effects.

A (17:17)

I was learning about yourself.

B (17:19)

Well, I was having these heart palpitations in this life.

A (17:21)

Okay.

B (17:22)

And I found out it was basically from a past life, me being really stressed. I died of a heart attack. Wow. And as soon as she cleared that trauma, I haven't had a heart palpitation since.

A (17:30)

That's incredible.

B (17:31)

Yeah. I used to get, like, heart scans all the time because I didn't know what's going on.

A (17:35)

Wow.

B (17:35)

And doctors couldn't figure it out. It was some energetic blockage.

A (17:38)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (17:39)

They say birthmarks on you or, like, where you died in a past life. I can see that, too.

A (17:43)

That's super interesting.

B (17:44)

Yeah. What about you?

A (17:46)

So I went back to Atlantis, and I went back to a Viking era where I was this warrior where I was defending a village and also died brutally in battle. So I think I was carrying that weight for a long time also.

B (18:03)

Wow. That man above. Just like the Vikings.

A (18:07)

Yeah.

B (18:07)

So they were around during Atlantis.

A (18:09)

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This was two different eras.

B (18:11)

Oh, God.

A (18:12)

Two different errors. Yeah. Yeah. But during Atlantis, I was. I was. I was apparently one of the judges that was chosen to go to Egypt once Atlantis collapsed. If you believe in that.

B (18:21)

Yeah, I do.

A (18:22)

Yeah.

B (18:22)

Well, it definitely collapsed. It's a matter of which stories.

A (18:26)

Right, right. Well, they say that the first it was Lemuria. Right. And then Atlantis, and then those that survived Atlantis were split into different locations. Egypt, Latin America, and all these other places. Asia. Yeah.

B (18:43)

Do you believe we have soul missions?

A (18:45)

I do.

B (18:46)

Have you figured it out in this life?

A (18:48)

Definitely. To help others. Definitely. Definitely to help others shine a light on who they are. Right. I've been very blessed in my life, Sean. I've had wonderful things happen to me, and I feel like I'm here to give back.

B (19:02)

Yeah.

A (19:03)

Right. I was given a strong platform to jump off of and allow others to catapult off of that same platform.

B (19:12)

Yeah, I love.

A (19:12)

So I'm. I'm really here to shine a light on people, you know, that's why I, I, I built a studio in Fort Lauderdale to allow others to come and really showcase who they are. Right. Allow other people to shine and get their 15 minute of fame and really connect with their audience and really build that trust and authority.

B (19:31)

Yeah. What a way to build these days. Right. You could just film like this and reach millions of people.

A (19:35)

Isn't it incredible?

B (19:36)

It's incredible.

A (19:37)

The power of social media, the power of the Internet.

B (19:39)

Yeah. I mean these types of topics weren't talked about 10, 20 years ago.

A (19:43)

No, it's all taboo.

B (19:44)

Yeah, super taboo. Like I, I wouldn't bring this up with my parents. I used to talk about astral projection and watch weird documentaries and stuff about psychedelics.

A (19:53)

Yeah.

B (19:53)

But I was like ashamed to talk about it. Yeah. You know.

A (19:56)

Yeah. Because they thought you were crazy.

B (19:57)

Yeah.

A (19:58)

You know, everyone loves to label everybody but, but you know, deep down everyone's curious, everybody wants to know.

B (20:03)

Yeah. I think a little bit of craziness is good actually.

A (20:06)

I agree.

B (20:06)

You know, I don't think it should be looked at negatively like it used to be.

A (20:10)

Sean, we live in a rock that's hurling through space around a fireball. You know what I mean? Like you put it that way, like life's incredible.

B (20:19)

Absolutely.

A (20:19)

You know, and it's a game as well. Learn to play it.

B (20:22)

Simulation theory.

A (20:23)

Yeah, 100%.

B (20:24)

The more I talk with experts about this, it seems like we are definitely

A (20:28)

in a simulation, a very, very sophisticated one. But. Yes, yeah, know, cuz there's people that

B (20:34)

do DMT and you know Danny Goler.

A (20:36)

Yeah, of course, yeah.

B (20:37)

He sees codes on the wall.

A (20:38)

Yeah. Isn't that incredible?

B (20:39)

It's insane. And he documents it and thousands of

A (20:42)

people have done it now with the laser.

B (20:43)

Right? Yeah, yeah. Like if that's actually happening, that pretty much proves it in my eyes.

A (20:48)

Yeah, I agree.

B (20:49)

You know, it's nuts.

A (20:50)

It's nuts.

B (20:51)

Super nuts.

A (20:52)

And if you think about it, our body is the most sophisticated quantum computer,

B (20:57)

you know, kills itself. Yeah.

A (20:59)

We are walking computations.

B (21:02)

Yeah, yeah, we are. We, we really don't know much about the body to be honest. No, we're just scratching the service.

A (21:09)

Yeah, we, we, we try to heal it with specialists not understanding that it's a one unit holistic way.

B (21:15)

Yeah. I did want to dive into business because.

A (21:18)

Let's do it.

B (21:19)

You've had a lot of success there. You dropped out of high school, you worked for two hedge fund billionaires. Was that before your spiritual journey when you were younger? Like walk me through that kind of era of your.

A (21:29)

Yeah, so I was an IT manager, IT director for a very long time. I'll start with high school. High school, it's not for everybody. I feel like high school is another weird form of jail, you know? Yeah, it's, it's, it's structured pretty much the same. Most entrepreneurs don't do well in school. Yeah, they feel very limited. They feel very in a box. So I saw that at a very a young age and dropped out. My dad put me to work at an audio and visual company as the stock boy and that began my technological path. Right. I eventually got computer certifications, A +C networking, and I did tons of internships in New York. Tons. I paid my dues, worked for free for years. But that paid off because the right people noticed my skills, my determination, my drive, and gave me a chance. So I began working at a insurance company called Star Companies, which was, is controlled by Maurice Hank Greenberg. He was the former CEO of AIG when AIG collapsed in 08. And I was his personal IT guy for a very long time. So built that relationship and trust, worked with his wife, his son, and all the C level suites for Star Companies. And that catapulted me to a different level of IT service. Right. Because now I became known as the, as, as the guy who can talk jargon to billionaires in a manner where they can understand it. So I began branching out and began working with Dan Loeb, hedge fund billionaire, for third point. So I was in charge of his home office, so meaning his kids, his wife, his mother, his plane, his homes, any piece of technology that he had, I managed and controlled. Yeah. Did that for a few years. Then I went to work for Larry Robbins, same idea. Hedge fund billionaire. Um, but having those experiences, that was my college, that was my education. That's where I really learned what business was, what money was, what life really was. Right. What's possible. Before that, I had no idea that life could be that grand. Right. I got to fly in private jets, I got to stay in multimillion dollar mansions. That really opened up my eyes. It allowed me to see that I can do this. Right. This is not rocket science. If they did it, I can do it. They're human, just like me.

B (24:21)

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I've realized too. Because you think of a billionaire and people think it's so unattainable. Yeah, the average person.

A (24:27)

Exactly.

B (24:28)

They think it's like rigged. They think the system's rigged against them and they'll never get there. And then you start hanging around these guys.

A (24:35)

You know what, Sean? If they believe that, it's true.

B (24:37)

Yeah. They'll manifest.

A (24:38)

Yeah. If you can, if you believe you can or if you believe you can't. Either way, you're right.

B (24:42)

Yeah. Your thoughts are very powerful.

A (24:44)

Yeah.

B (24:44)

So if you start believing that you'll, you'll create that reality for sure. 100%.

A (24:48)

So I chose not to believe that. Right. I chose to tell myself, no, that's possible. You can be a billionaire and you can do it in this lifetime.

B (24:57)

Right. Is that still a goal for you?

A (24:58)

100%.

B (24:59)

Okay, so you got a good. Really sounds like balance then between the spirituality and the financial world.

A (25:05)

I want money to give back. Right. I, I have a staff of almost 50 people in New York. I support tons of family members in Brazil. Right. I just retired both my parents and moved them to Florida and my mother in law.

B (25:21)

Wow.

A (25:21)

Right. So like I love being able to do this. I love being able to use my resource and my wealth to help my family and others. So I really. So my goal is to build a school. So my wife and I, we own a therapy agency for kids with autism.

B (25:38)

Yeah.

A (25:38)

Based out of New York and Florida. And we've been doing this for eight years. It's our bread and butter. We love this company. And my goal is to build a school in, in, in Broward County, Florida and also in the future. So autism, the rate right now is one in 30. One in 30, Sean. Ten years ago it was one in over a hundred. Right. So think about this. 20 years from now, you got this entire population of kids that are autistic with their parents dying off. Who's going to help these people? Who's going to support them?

B (26:19)

Yeah.

A (26:20)

So we got to start building infrastructure to help these people retire properly and have a, a comfortable life in their old age.

B (26:30)

Yeah. Because if we don't have that bill, we'll. China is actually going through this right now. Not with autism, but with birth rates.

A (26:35)

Yes.

B (26:36)

They can'. Take care of their elderly.

A (26:38)

Yeah.

B (26:38)

Not enough people.

A (26:39)

It's crazy. Japan as well. Japan is the oldest population in the world. They have more elderly people than any other population within their demographic.

B (26:53)

Yeah. Wow, that's crazy. 130 is.

A (26:56)

It's crazy. It's nuts.

B (26:57)

So the ones at your school, are they on the severe end of autism or is it all ranges?

A (27:01)

All ranges. All ranges, all ages.

B (27:04)

Yeah, because I have it, but I'm very functional.

A (27:06)

Yeah.

B (27:06)

But I know people that have it that can't even pick up on social cues or talk to people who's. Different levels.

A (27:12)

Have you done ABA services in your life?

B (27:14)

What's up?

A (27:15)

Applied Behavior Analysis?

B (27:18)

No, I just got a brain Scan. Okay. But my dad had Asperger's, so I think. I don't know if it's genetic or something.

A (27:24)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (27:25)

It seems like a lot of people on his side of the family have it.

A (27:29)

What do you think is the cause?

B (27:30)

Foreign? I've had a lot of health experts on. I think it's a lot of things. Me too. You would know better than me, but I definitely think it's environment. I think it's a diet.

A (27:39)

Yeah, I agree.

B (27:41)

I think those are the two big ones.

A (27:43)

I agree.

B (27:43)

What about you?

A (27:43)

Combination of that and some heavy metals.

B (27:45)

Yeah. Heavy metals. The V word, right?

A (27:48)

Yeah.

B (27:48)

Getting 80 of those.

A (27:49)

Yeah. I mean, look, I don't think that is the actual cause, but I will say that it does unlock it. Yeah.

B (27:59)

Because there's heavy metals in it, right? Yeah.

A (28:01)

Because I do know kids who are never. Who have autism.

B (28:05)

Really?

A (28:05)

Yes.

B (28:06)

Oh, I never.

A (28:06)

Those do exist.

B (28:07)

What?

A (28:08)

Yes.

B (28:08)

Okay. Yes. That's new information to me.

A (28:11)

Yeah.

B (28:11)

I gotta.

A (28:11)

Look, there's plenty of kids who were never. Who have autism.

B (28:15)

Would you say it's a lower rate, though? Like.

A (28:16)

Yeah.

B (28:17)

Per 100 people?

A (28:18)

100. Definitely a lower rate.

B (28:19)

So there is a bit of a link then.

A (28:20)

There is, yeah. But I do think the vaccines unlock it. Yeah, bro, it's. It's. It. It's crazy. Like, you're giving how many to a newborn baby?

B (28:30)

80 something. 78.

A (28:31)

Insane.

B (28:31)

Yeah. Newborn baby, I think it's five, but I think zero to 18 is 78.

A (28:36)

It's crazy.

B (28:36)

Trump's trying to lower it, but.

A (28:38)

So I have two boys, and my wife and I really split that up to make sure that, you know, it's not all at once.

B (28:45)

That's smart. Yeah. I remember being an athlete, you had to get like, extra ones. Yeah. High school, which sucked. Yeah. I didn't even question. I was so in the system at the time.

A (28:54)

Right.

B (28:55)

That these weren't even. Like, if I brought it up back then, I would have been really cool.

A (28:58)

Where'd you grow up?

B (28:59)

Bridgewater, New Jersey. Okay.

A (29:01)

I'm from Queens.

B (29:01)

Oh, nice. Yeah. East Coast. Very straight shoot. Straightforward lifestyle.

A (29:05)

Exactly.

B (29:06)

Yeah. I miss that.

A (29:07)

Yeah.

B (29:08)

I miss out here. Okay. Also in. You got kicked out of high school, right?

A (29:15)

I did.

B (29:16)

What, what grade were you?

A (29:17)

Junior.

B (29:17)

Junior.

A (29:18)

So I had. I had just turned 17.

B (29:22)

17?

A (29:23)

Yeah. I had 180 something cuts in one year.

B (29:28)

Holy.

A (29:29)

Yeah. I was never there.

B (29:30)

That's like the whole year, basically, because there's only like 180 days, basically.

A (29:34)

I was never there.

B (29:35)

So you got kicked out for skipping.

A (29:37)

So this was between my sophomore year and my junior year, I had 100 and something, 180, some cuts. Yeah. I was never there, and. And they told me, listen, you don't want to be here, we don't want you here. Goodbye.

B (29:47)

Got it. Did your parents know you were skipping?

A (29:49)

Eventually found out, eventually you were hiding

B (29:52)

that you were living like a secret lifestyle.

A (29:54)

I was 16. I had just gotten my license in New York, my junior license. I had bought a 1986 Honda Civic, hatchback, four gears. And I thought I was the man riding around this car, you know? And, yeah, school wasn't happening, you know, doing the wrong. Doing drugs, selling drugs, you know, trying to. Trying to figure out who I was and where I fit in life.

B (30:19)

Yeah. And what was the turning point to get you out of that phase?

A (30:25)

Coming to some harsh, harsh realizations. Right. A couple instances that, that, that occurred. A friend of mine crashed my car, got totaled. Had a bunch of stuff in the car that shouldn't have been there. Thankfully, the car wasn't in my name, so I never got arrested. It never came back to me.

B (30:45)

Yeah.

A (30:46)

So, like all these little things that occurred, eventually I stopped and I thought, man, you're so lucky, you know, you could have gone to jail here, here and here. You could have died here, here and here. And you didn't, you know, So I, I had a coming to Jesus moment, you know, quote off quote, where I'm like, I want to be better. I want to do better.

B (31:06)

Yeah. I wonder if God puts these close calls in our life, these health scares.

A (31:10)

Yeah.

B (31:11)

Intentionally, sometimes 100% to wake you up. Yeah. Because I've gone through similar periods where my health is like. And I could have died or whatever a few times. And it's like, damn, I needed the. You know, if I were to continue that lifestyle, I could have died.

A (31:24)

Could you imagine if you hadn't changed?

B (31:27)

I would have been dead.

A (31:28)

Look what you created.

B (31:29)

I know, it's crazy, right?

A (31:30)

It's crazy.

B (31:31)

And this impacted people and they're gonna create from this. It's just like a, like a never ending struggle.

A (31:37)

You're doing what, like 60, 70 podcasts a month?

B (31:39)

Yeah, we do.

A (31:40)

That's crazy. Yeah.

B (31:41)

We used to drop two a day. Now we're at one a day. But yeah, we're still filming a lot, but just the, the messages I'm getting. Yeah, it's.

A (31:47)

So what you've created is so powerful.

B (31:50)

Yeah.

A (31:51)

You connect personally with so many people and your message with millions and millions of people.

B (31:57)

Yeah. It's nuts. I mean, you're you're on the similar path. And yes.

A (32:00)

Yes. 100.

B (32:01)

It's powerful. Super powerful.

A (32:03)

Yeah.

B (32:03)

But you also are realistic. So you believe 95 of podcasts are. Are dead on arrival.

A (32:08)

Oh, yeah. Why? Because they don't know what they're doing and they don't have a message or a niche. Right. And I made the same mistake in the beginning. Right. Your. Your message is too broad.

B (32:19)

Yeah.

A (32:19)

Right. You're. You're trying to reach too many people. Right. I think you are someone who are an expert at that. You're really, really good. I think the way you structured your podcast is very admirable. You. You have quite a complex guest list. That's really incredible. Yeah. Very diverse. Very, very awesome. But most people can't do that.

B (32:51)

That's true.

A (32:52)

It's very hard.

B (32:53)

Tough.

A (32:53)

It's tough.

B (32:54)

It's tough because you got to be semi versed in multiple.

A (32:57)

Yes. Right. And that's not most people. Yeah, most people got to stick to their lane.

B (33:03)

So that's what I did at first. So I was really good at marketing and business at first. So those were like the first hundred episodes. Then as I got into spirituality, I wanted to branch off and I was very curious, and I think that's why it resonated with the guests, because I was genuinely interested. I wanted to learn more about it, you know, so that's sort of because

A (33:20)

of your own life journey, probably.

B (33:21)

And now spirituality is the number one topic on the show, really, which is crazy. When I started the show, it's all about making money, doing business, marketing, nerdy like that. And now it's like by far the number one topic.

A (33:32)

Do you know why, Sean? Because if you don't have that down path, you can't make money.

B (33:36)

Yeah.

A (33:36)

Right. So I follow my life by this principle. Right. Body being balance and business. It's in that order for a reason. Right. If you don't take care of your body, you have nothing. Right. If there's no health, you can't create. Being is God. If there's no connection with God, you have no connection to Source. Right. There's no creation light coming towards you. So body being balanced is family. If you're not aligned with your family, you can't create properly. Most men don't have a business problem. They may have a marriage issue or a home issue or a weight issue or a God issue. You fix all of that, your business will flourish. That's why spirituality is probably the number one topic of your show. Because if you get that right, money will flow towards you. Right. If your chakras are aligned and if your body is flowing and if you're tapped into source, there's no way you're not going to make money.

B (34:40)

Yeah, I agree with you 100. But most people don't see it that way.

A (34:43)

No.

B (34:44)

They want to work non stop and try to make money that way.

A (34:47)

They're vibrating too low, too low.

B (34:49)

And that's how I started. Yeah. I would grind 18 hours a day thinking that would be the answer to making money. But it wasn't. No, I wouldn't care about my physical health. Had no friends, no relationship with family, like you said.

A (35:00)

Right.

B (35:00)

Pretty much atheist. And was making 50k a year, working 18 hours a day, 7 days a week.

A (35:05)

Wow. You know, burning out.

B (35:07)

And I wanted to keep working and I thought that was the answer. So yeah, I had to get a line, man, like you said. I did all that stuff. How to repair family, friendships, find purpose, find God. It's helped a lot.

A (35:19)

And you aligned and look at where you are today.

B (35:20)

Yeah. Now I wake up pumped every day. I used to wake up miserable, like super miserable.

A (35:26)

I know the feeling.

B (35:27)

Yeah.

A (35:27)

But now being so depressed.

B (35:28)

Yeah.

A (35:29)

Having money, having things and being depressed, it's crazy.

B (35:32)

It's. It's a weird concept.

A (35:33)

It's such a weird concept.

B (35:34)

People that don't have money, they're always roasting me when I say, but like, yeah, I had millions and I was sleeping 12 hours a day depressed.

A (35:40)

It's so crazy.

B (35:41)

Doesn't fix it.

A (35:42)

No, no, it does not.

B (35:43)

Not close.

A (35:44)

No.

B (35:45)

No amount would fix it. Even billions, I don't think.

A (35:47)

Correct. I think the only way that money could help is if you have money to pay someone to help you get out of your funk.

B (35:53)

Right.

A (35:54)

Go pay a mentor. Go pay a guru or someone like that. Yeah, that could help.

B (35:57)

That makes sense.

A (35:58)

Yeah.

B (35:58)

Is that something you did?

A (35:59)

100%. Yeah. That's how I got my ayahuasca journey. You know, you got to. You got to spend money to make money. Right. And spending money on yourself and on your health is a way to make money and body being balanced in business.

B (36:12)

Right. And that's what I've realized with, with Iowa. So you don't want to cheap out on it.

A (36:16)

No.

B (36:16)

Some people do it in the US in some guy's basement.

A (36:19)

I mean, look, if you want to do it in the U.S. that's okay, but fine. There are great shamans.

B (36:26)

Yeah.

A (36:26)

In Miami. There are tons of them.

B (36:28)

Oh, really?

A (36:28)

Tons of great shamans in Miami. Yeah. I'll connect you. I know a really Good one. She's incredible. But it's much better to be in the jungle.

B (36:36)

Yeah.

A (36:36)

Because you're in that energy, you're in that vibration.

B (36:38)

100%. Whenever I do psychedelics, I prefer being in nature.

A (36:41)

Yes, you have to be in nature.

B (36:42)

Yeah. And you did it at night because. I prefer the day.

A (36:45)

I did it at night.

B (36:46)

Okay.

A (36:46)

Well, we began at, like, dawn. Yeah.

B (36:50)

Yeah. Nice. A different animal because you. You lose that vision, so you're hallucinating more, I bet.

A (36:55)

Yeah.

B (36:55)

Right? Yeah.

A (36:56)

And all the sounds.

B (36:57)

Yeah.

A (36:57)

Jungle sounds, the animals and.

B (36:59)

Yeah. They say plants talk to each other, too.

A (37:02)

Oh, yeah.

B (37:02)

They're living.

A (37:03)

Yeah.

B (37:04)

Yeah. Everything is right.

A (37:05)

Everything's alive. The. The.

B (37:06)

The.

A (37:07)

The plants are talking through the roots.

B (37:09)

Yeah. The mushroom network's insane. It's insane. Fungi.

A (37:12)

Yeah.

B (37:13)

That's crazy. What's the next thing you're. You're focused on? You got the autism clinics, your podcast. Anything else you're doing?

A (37:20)

Yeah. My mission right now is to help entrepreneurs and coaches build trust and authority by helping them build a podcast. I think podcast, Sean, is the greatest marketing tool that we have. Right. AI is coming.

B (37:33)

It's taken over. Yeah.

A (37:34)

Right. By 2030. 2035, 90 of jobs are going to be gone.

B (37:39)

Wow.

A (37:40)

90.

B (37:41)

I really believe that by 2035. So that's seven years or what year? Eight years.

A (37:46)

Yeah.

B (37:47)

Holy crap.

A (37:47)

Yeah. If you look at it right now, Claude can do a lot. Right. So for a long time, we considered software engineers an extremely admirable career. Oh, my God. You're a software engineer. You work at Google, at Facebook. Right. You work at Tesla, bro. Claude just replaced you. Literally. One of the most sophisticated jobs that we held in our society has just been replaced by Claude.

B (38:17)

Yeah.

A (38:18)

Everything's gonna go. The only way that you're gonna be relevant is to build the brand. The only way to build a brand is to build trust. The most direct way that I believe to build trust is to build your own podcast.

B (38:34)

Yeah. I think it's a great way of standing out, and it's gonna be hard to replace. Podcast.

A (38:39)

I agree.

B (38:39)

It's. It'll be one of the last professions. I think I agree, but I do agree with you. Drivers are next. Web developers are screwed. I just redid my whole site with AI.

A (38:47)

Yeah.

B (38:48)

$100. It's better than my old site that I paid 5k for.

A (38:51)

Is that crazy?

B (38:52)

Yeah, it's nuts. And I made it way faster.

A (38:54)

It's nuts.

B (38:55)

And I could change it whenever I

A (38:56)

want just by prompting.

B (38:57)

Yeah, just by typing. Lovable. Lovable is a Good one, Claude. I use all the time. It's phenomenal for generating questions for guests.

A (39:04)

Have you built your own Open Claw?

B (39:06)

No, that's the cloud bot that everyone's using. Yeah. Are you doing that?

A (39:09)

It's incredible.

B (39:10)

I've seen some crazy use cases for that.

A (39:12)

You got to get on that.

B (39:13)

Yeah. People are trading stocks with that. People are booking restaurants. It's calling the restaurant and books. Yes.

A (39:18)

It's currently managing my agency.

B (39:20)

Wow.

A (39:20)

Right? It connects to Trello and it connects to go high level through API.

B (39:24)

No way.

A (39:24)

And it pulls all the data.

B (39:26)

Holy crap. Yeah. So it's running right now as we film this.

A (39:29)

As right now? Yes.

B (39:30)

Dude, that's nuts. I'm sending like 200 emails right now as we're filming this.

A (39:33)

That's. That's so cool.

B (39:35)

Yeah. Do you do cold emails? Cold emails are great. They are, are. Yeah.

A (39:39)

Cold texts are good too.

B (39:40)

Oh, cold text. Yeah. I got to try that one. Cold emails. I'm doing six figures a month, all with cold AI emails.

A (39:47)

That's incredible.

B (39:48)

It's nuts.

A (39:48)

What are you pushing?

B (39:50)

Podcast and my networking events.

A (39:52)

Got it.

B (39:52)

Yeah. So like, I host networking events for people at certain revenue levels. So we have a 1 mil plus event and a 10 mil plus event. That's awesome. And then we get sponsors to cover it. And I just love connecting people, dude.

A (40:03)

What do you do? I'm here.

B (40:04)

Vegas, la, every city, Miami. I've done a few, but I've realized.

A (40:08)

Let me know when you're in Miami.

B (40:09)

Yeah, awesome. I'll definitely. We could do a collab event.

A (40:11)

That'd be great.

B (40:12)

I've noticed connecting people has opened up so many doors. Even if I'm not making any money off it. Just like I believe in karma.

A (40:19)

Yeah.

B (40:20)

You know what I mean? So. I know. I've just seen it always come back to me.

A (40:23)

You have great energy.

B (40:24)

Right.

A (40:25)

People connect with you and they just want to help you.

B (40:27)

Yeah, that's. That's what I do for people, so.

A (40:29)

Exactly.

B (40:30)

No, I'm not even trying to do anything nefarious behind the scenes because some people connect people and they assume they get.

A (40:35)

They want their return.

B (40:36)

Exactly. But I play the long game.

A (40:38)

Same.

B (40:38)

You know what I mean? Same.

A (40:39)

I'm here to help, bro.

B (40:40)

Yeah. My first networking event had 20 people come. That's awesome. And some people would think that's embarrassing, but then.

A (40:45)

Not at all.

B (40:46)

Yeah, I. I didn't think it was an issue.

A (40:48)

Quality.

B (40:48)

Quality over quantity. Now all of us are, you know, eight years later, doing really well. We're still really Close. And we've turned that networking event into thousands of people now from that.

A (40:58)

Where do you see this show in five years?

B (41:01)

We're gonna be. Dude, we're gonna be a monster. Because I'm at that phase now where we're going from that, like, kind of top hundred range to top 10.

A (41:11)

Yeah.

B (41:11)

I'm just hiring. I'm hiring the best editors. I got calls this week with diary with CEOs, editors, and Bobby Lee, the comedian.

A (41:18)

Yeah.

B (41:19)

So we're about to upgrade editors. That's awesome. I'm being more selective with the guests. So instead of one a day, eventually we'll be at like two, three a week.

A (41:27)

Okay.

B (41:27)

Just focused really on quality. And we're going to start doing international episodes now. We're going to have some global reach. Okay. It's going to be fun, man.

A (41:35)

I'm just taking mental notes, man. I'm just. I'm just following you.

B (41:38)

Yeah.

A (41:39)

You're leading the way.

B (41:40)

And the clipping. Like, you got to hire the. You got to. You can't cheap out on editors. Yeah. Podcaster, you really. I could tell so quick if you're paying $5 or using AI to make a right. So quick.

A (41:50)

Yeah.

B (41:51)

And people will scroll that.

A (41:52)

That a slob.

B (41:53)

Yeah.

A (41:54)

They're calling it.

B (41:54)

That's my number one advice for people getting into content. But first, you have to get good at content.

A (41:58)

Yes.

B (41:59)

So get good first, then hire good editors.

A (42:02)

I agree.

B (42:02)

Because a good editor can't fix.

A (42:05)

No.

B (42:05)

A mediocre podcast only do so much. Exactly.

A (42:08)

Right. I think the host is everything.

B (42:10)

Yeah. So develop your skills. I filmed my first couple hundred episodes on iPhones. Don't freak out.

A (42:15)

I agree with you.

B (42:15)

Set up.

A (42:16)

I agree with you.

B (42:16)

You know, a lot of people are like, what should I buy? That's the wrong thing to be.

A (42:19)

Buy an iPhone.

B (42:21)

Get good. Talk with your friends first.

A (42:24)

I think the audio is way more important than the actual video.

B (42:26)

Yeah. Audio quality is important.

A (42:27)

Yeah.

B (42:28)

For sure.

A (42:28)

Because somebody will sit through bad video, but they will not sit through bad audio.

B (42:32)

That's true. Yeah. If I'm in the car, I'm off. If it's.

A (42:35)

Exactly.

B (42:36)

Yeah. But, Leo, this was great, dude. I can't wait to see you in Miami, man.

A (42:39)

It's gonna be great.

B (42:39)

I gotta hop on your show, too.

A (42:40)

Oh, please. Let's do it.

B (42:42)

Yeah, let's do it, man.

A (42:43)

It's no about you. Get deep into who Sean Kelly is.

B (42:45)

Let's do it, man. Where can people see your show and learn from you and all that, man?

A (42:49)

They can find me at Instagram, at Leo Claco on YouTube, @Leo Clo podcast and give me one second. I have a new landing page.

B (43:01)

We'll link it in the video.

A (43:02)

Yes, I'll link it the page I think it is. I can't recall, but the studio is at Forge Studio fl. Com. Sean will add the link to my funnel where I'm I'm giving out a free link to how to build your podcast from scratch.

B (43:20)

Nice. Check out the link in the description, guys. If you're on audio or YouTube, I'll see you next time. Peace.

A (43:25)

Peace.

B (43:26)

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