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A
AI is going to be a big problem, like from when, like chat GPT released in like 2023 to where we are now. It's absolutely insane how fast it grew. Like now you could literally deep fake videos that will probably be used in court. And so imagine where we're going to be in the next few years. It's very scary. And like you said, it's not just going to be the cashiers, the Uber drivers. It's also going to be the lawyers. It's going to be the doctors. Why would I consult a doctor when I could ask GPT my problems and they can give me a prescription in two seconds?
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B
Dude, you could literally import your blood results and it'll probably give you better adv than a doctor.
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A
Exactly.
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B
Isn't that nuts?
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A
It's scary. I think we're living through very crazy times right now.
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B
All right, guys, we got Hermes on today. Looking good, my man. What brings you out to Vegas?
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A
I just wanted to fly out for the podcast. You know, I was meeting someone after this, so. Yeah, glad to be on here.
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B
Get it, man. Did you do any interviews while you were out here?
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A
No, I was in. In California. One of my friends started a podcast, so.
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B
Okay.
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A
In Vegas.
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B
It's cool.
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A
Pretty, pretty close. So.
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B
Yeah, quick flight, quick flight. How have the interviews been lately for you in Miami?
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A
They've been pretty good. You know, I usually don't like doing too many podcasts. A lot of people ask the same stuff, but, you know, sometimes I like to actually share why I believe some of the things I do believe. Because a lot of people might see my videos and think, oh, he's, you know, he's just rage baiting. He's. He might actually be racist or whatever it might be. But, yeah, just kind of explain myself better.
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B
So if you had a ballpark, like, what percentage of your videos are, like, your actual beliefs versus you're just rage baiting, what would it be, you think?
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A
Yeah, I mean, obviously when I say, like, black people should be born in prison, like, I don't believe that. Obviously it's a joke, but a lot of them have some truth to it. That's why a lot of people do get mad at them. I mean, people wouldn't get mad if it was obviously, like, clearly a joke and it had no truth to it. So, I mean, when I say something like that, that obviously enrages it. People have to realize why does it make them angry? So, I mean, everything has a little bit of truth in it. Everything I say. But obviously there's a Spectrum to what I believe.
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B
I mean, they say that with all jokes there's always a bit of truth and I agree.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Or else it wouldn't make sense, Right?
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A
Yeah. I mean, exactly. Like, and then you look at the people who get mad at the jokes the most, that. That brings another layer to the equation. Like white people. Sure, they might get mad at, you know, certain jokes more than other, but a lot less than other races. Like when you make fun of black people, Whoa. They go off the rails. Or Indians in particular, I've noticed.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. Especially on Twitter. Like, you post an Indian thing, they have like group chats where they'll just go master for your account. So. Are you serious? Yeah, I stay steer clear from them because you'll literally get banned.
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B
What about Asians?
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A
Yeah, Asians are pretty chill.
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B
That's what I noticed. Yeah. Because people, like, make fun of me or whatever for being Asian. I don't really care to fight back. Honestly, I hear the same shit all the time. Like, you eat dog, short dick jokes, all that stuff. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I've heard it all 100 times. But I'm surprised Indians get mad because I thought they were chill.
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A
They are definitely not chill. Really? I mean, maybe some of them are, but again, there's like 1.5 billion of them. So if you anger like 1% of them, that's a whole army coming at you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then like with Asians, like, what are you going to really make fun of them for? That they're smart, they're good at math? Like, I don't get them.
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B
So did you get mass reported by the Indians?
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A
No, I haven't yet, but I've a few people have told me, like, I've made some Indian post to like steer clear from them. You're going to get your accounts banned. You're going to get them shut down and there's like group chats. Like, people have infiltrated their group chats and they literally send accounts in there.
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B
Oh, so they're fake and being Indian, infiltrating the group chat and then.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Reporting to you.
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A
Yeah. And a lot of. A lot of the Indians on like Twitter, on these social media platforms, they use like white names, things like that, but you can like tell by the way they type or the things they comment.
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B
I mean, the blacks. I'll say this because gary just debated 607 uncle my show. He was getting a lot of hate. They were trying to cancel him. I'm not a fan of cancel culture.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know what?
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A
I Mean, yeah, that's. That was a big problem for me too. Like, obviously, I'm still young, but even in, like, high school, I used to just say what I thought all the time to people. I didn't care if it pissed them off. And that really enraged me when, like, during the cancel culture era, like, obviously I was still in high school. But I see. I see all these people getting canceled, then they're apologizing for saying a joke about a certain group of people. Like, that's fucking ridiculous. I'm never going to apologize for anything. Like, if I say a joke that goes too far, it's a. It's a joke at the end of the day, maybe in that time I thought it was funny and then, you know, I mature a little. Whatever it might be, then I don't find it funny. Who cares? I'm not going to. Like, that's ridiculous. That's one of the main reasons I started my account. I want to see how far I could push the limits. And clearly enough people aren't doing it. That's why I, like, blew up so fast. Like, there's a few people out there, but everybody's just scared of getting the backlash. But, you know, nobody ever does anything in person. It's always positive when people see me.
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B
No one's tried you in person yet?
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A
No, never. I get a lot of threats. They're like, oh, come to this city. Come here. I mean, I'm pretty easy to find. I usually post my location, so nobody's ever ran up on me. Hopefully they don't. But, you know, people love to talk behind a screen. But I do see people sometimes, like, stare at me, like, weird when I'm in public, I'm like, okay, this guy probably knows. But again, they never say anything.
- [05:09]
B
I mean, it's an interesting dilemma because. Very controversial. People have said similar things. You're saying to me. Like, Andrew Tate, he gets a lot of hate, but every time he's in person, all love. No, same with. Myron's been getting tested a little lately, but usually if he gets a lot of love. Yeah, it's been. Now he's doing the street debates, so he's getting a little more people trying him, I guess. But usually it's. It's mainly love, right?
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A
No, it's. It's absolutely always love. I mean, I was actually at the first Myron debate. I remember I tried to come just to get like a clip, just ask him a question. I pulled up right at the end and there was like 10 Jews dancing around him.
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B
Dancing.
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A
Yeah, they were literally like jumping up and down singing like Hamas lover or something. They were saying something.
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B
It was not on the debate.
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A
Yeah, no, they literally had to shut it down. Like the cops came. I think Myon wanted to shut it down to not cause any more problems. But like they literally fit the stereotype. Wow. Yeah.
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B
Mean, the Jewish stuff is a hot thing right now. Have you done any content around that?
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A
Oh, yeah, that. That's the first videos that blew up for the most part. I asked about like the 6 million cookie question. Yeah, I asked like 109 bar. People love that.
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B
What's 109 bars? I haven't heard.
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A
Yeah, so let's say your friend got kicked out of 109 bars over a thousand times. Who do you think is at fault, your friend or the bars? And obviously common sense would say friend. Yeah. Because I mean, can you really make that many mistakes that many times? Yeah, so, yeah, obviously common sense says that it's your friend's fault. But then you say, oh, do you know who this is about then? It's, oh, it's anti Semitic. You can't, you can't say. You can't say those things. These people were prejudiced against the certain group of people. But again, it's like the chicken or the egg. Why were they prejudice against a certain people that made them get kicked out of 109 countries over a thousand times? It's insane.
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B
Oh, I didn't know that. So the Jewish people have been kicked out of 109 countries.
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A
Yeah, I mean, it's not 100 accurate, but people like, it's. That's like the ballpark.
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B
Wow.
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A
There's actually a list. You can go through the countries and they're mostly European countries. Obviously the Jews came to Europe from, from the Middle east because they didn't have a homeland. And. Yeah, I mean, they got kicked out for certain reasons. I mean, some countries say they were poisoning wells, you know, clipping coins, usury. And I don't know how much of that is true. Obviously one end of the spectrum is that all, you know, the Jews were just persecuted for no reason. And the other spectrum is that all Jews are bad. And the truth is always like somewhere in the middle.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I don't know, it's just you should really question something. If you can't question a certain event that's supposedly so well documented throughout history, that should really set off some alarm bells. Like, why can't you question it? Like, it's actually illegal in like 17 plus countries. I think mostly in Europe to question the Holocaust.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. You could get fined or get in jail.
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B
Holy crap.
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A
And I know people, like, not personally, but I know of people who have gone fined or went to jail for, you know, doing certain things in Europe surrounding this event. So it's absurd.
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B
That's pretty nuts. I mean, I remember history class here. We learned about the Holocaust for months. I feel like.
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A
Right.
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B
They were really programming it into our. Into our minds.
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A
Yeah. It was probably one of the, like, biggest events that everyone remembers in school. If you ask anyone, like, what's the worst event in human history? They'll say, oh, I don't know. But, like, usually some. Most people will say, like, the Holocaust, because that was, like, so ingrained in us. Like, who's the most evil person? Oh, obviously Hitler. Like, he's the Nazi. Like, if you say something that's out of the norm. Yeah. You're automatically a Nazi. And you really have to question that. Like, why are they pushing this narrative so much when there was different dictators? Like, even if you believe the official stories and narratives of how many people were killed, there was other dictators and regimes that killed many more people. Why are those people not talked about?
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B
It's a valid point. Right. Because there's been. I've seen that list of, like, the dictators and how many they killed, and I think there was a couple above Hitler, if I'm not mistaken.
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A
Yeah. Like a few, like Mao of China or Stalin. Obviously, he killed plenty of Russians, Ukrainians. He killed. He starved his own people. But you don't hear about that. And I mean, some can say, well, it wasn't because they're white. I mean, he killed, I guess, predominantly white Christians, but I think for the most part, it was because they were white. I don't think they really cared. But then you look at who Hitler killed and what was the Holocaust about? You know, the Jews got. Went into the gas chambers and. And that's what we're taught about. And it's like the worst event. And is it because it was a specific group of people that were targeted? It really makes you question.
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B
No, it does, man. Because I remember history class was one of my favorites in school, but now as I'm older, I'm like, that was just indoctrination. And I actually, I'm not a fan of history class anymore.
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A
Yeah, I mean, especially for white people. Like, I remember in school we were taught the, like, main things were slick slavery, we were colonizers, came and stole the land. And then obviously genocide. Like, white people, Europeans they genocided other groups of people. So it's like you're taught from such a young age to, like, have this, like, white guilt. Like, you should be sorry for what you've done. But people don't talk about all the great things white people have accomplished. Like, someone sent me a stat is like, 97% of inventions were made by Europeans. I don't know. I don't know how true that is exactly, but it's definitely believable. And there's actually a website when they say, like, the traffic light or peanut butter was invented by black people, there's a website that, like, fact checks these black inventions, and you look deeper into it, and usually they're all from white people that they might have added something or it was, like, completely stolen. So why are we not taught about that? Wow.
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B
There's a site debunking black inventions.
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A
Yeah, I forgot the name of it right now. But they didn't even invent peanut butter, so I don't think they've invented anything, actually. Kind of sad.
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B
Holy crap. I mean, they were. To be fair, they were pretty oppressed, you know?
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A
Yeah. I mean, 100%. Obviously, what. What the. What Americans did to them was not fair. I don't think any person should be slaves. Obviously not. But I mean, how long can you cry victim for? Like, that was ages ago at this point. I mean, are you going to cry victim for the rest of your life? Like, are you still oppressed? Like, I understand even the CIA brought drugs or whatever, invented rap music to try to hurt the black community. But, you know, how come white people aren't going out and shooting people because of rap music?
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B
No.
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A
Like, it's black people doing it. So, I mean, we just have to realize that we have our differences. And I'm not saying one is above the other. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying we have to acknowledge it. I think the world would thrive better if we acknowledge our differences and focus that on what we were good at. And if you give a set of rules to white people, we obviously have different morals, different values. We literally think differently. Like, our skin color is literally the least of our differences. Like, our brain chemistry, our physical bodies, how we train should be different and people don't. We're obviously not taught about that. It's so suppressed that, you know, when you say that, it's automatically racist. But I think we should acknowledge these differences. I think we could thrive better as a whole, as people.
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B
I agree. How many black friends do you have?
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A
I Have a few. Believe it or not, yeah. I have this one black friend. He's. He's fucking more racist than me. He really moved out in the middle, to the middle of the woods to get away from black people. He's like, I'm so fatigued of my own kind, I don't want to be around them.
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B
Wow, okay, so that's not a defining line for you, then. You're. You're still friends with black people?
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A
I'm friends with everyone. Like, again, I generalize groups, but I judge individuals, you know, based on their character.
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B
I like that because there's obviously data behind group studies. People can't deny that, and some people get angry about that. But you can't deny facts and percentages.
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A
Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm not going to hate someone just because they're Jewish, black, Indian. Like, I literally have friends of all groups. Like, if someone actually saw the people I interact with, hell, you're. You're a grifter. I'm not a grifter. I just realized that everyone is an individual, and I'll base them off of that. But, you know, obviously, if I'm walking down the street or in a predominantly black community, I'll obviously be more cautious because it's just pattern recognition.
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B
Yeah. I've seen some crazy stats on the future and what percentage of the population will be white. And white people are going to be the minority, I believe, in like, 10, 20 years or something like that.
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A
I mean, we basically are the minority right now. We went from like, 33% to 7%, like 100 years. That's a drastic drop. And obviously, it's not just that our population dropped. It's the other populations have been outbreeding us. Like, if you look at, like, in India or Africa, I saw this the other day. There used to be, like, I think, like, half a million Africans. Now there's billions of them in a very short span of time.
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B
Wow.
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A
So, I mean, like, white people, they kind of breed more for quality. Like, a lot of white people, they will. They don't have money. They're not really gonna have kids, or they'll have one or two to try to get the most, the best quality of children. But like other cultures, they breed like rabbits, and they'll breed. They'll have 10 children, and one will be successful, and the rest, you know, not so much.
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B
Right.
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A
And that's the way they do it. Now, I'm not saying one is better than the other, but, I mean, I think people don't realize how bad the World can. Will get if white people are going to become extinct or a very small minority of the world. Because everybody wants to live in white countries. Everybody wants to live in the us, Canada, Australia, Europe. Like why are the migrants flooding there from their countries? Because obviously white people built it. They made the country to what it is now and people want to go there. And then. So when people say like let in these immigrants, some of them want to work. Yeah, I agree, some of them want to work. But at a certain point you have to say no, no more of you can come in here because if you let in third world or is in a first world country, it's going to become a third world.
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B
Yeah. What about letting in white people?
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A
Yeah, I mean, I see the argument for that. I think that's fine. And again, people can disagree with that. But again, like the U.S. yes, it was founded on immigrants. It was mostly white immigrants. And at this point, no, we can't deport everyone. That's impossible. And some of these people have been here for generations. Where are you going to kick them out to? Is unfair. It's unreasonable. I can understand that. But I don't think it's unfair to say we should want the US to be majority white. And honestly, a lot of people that I talk to who aren't white, they say the same thing, like, yes, that's what shaped the country. And imagine if whatever, Mexicans or Indians become the majority of the US how is that going to look like it's going to be more like India or Mexico.
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B
Do you want white kids?
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A
Of course. Yeah.
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B
What about half Asian?
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A
No, definitely not.
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B
Because then you get the work ethic too. You get the work ethic mixed with the, the good genes, you know? Yeah.
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A
I don't know why so many white men love Asians. I. There's some something I never got the appeal to be honest.
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B
They look younger, they're pretty skinny usually. They're smart. Yeah, they're good feminine energy.
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A
Yeah. White people and Asians are actually a lot more similar to DNA than obviously whites and blacks, obviously just by the way we look. But even like our brain and our bodies a lot more similar. So I mean, if you can't get a white wife, I guess Asians would be the second best.
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B
That's funny, dude. Yeah, I like Asians do like I got to defend, I'm half Asian, half white, so I got to defend my half Asian. You know, they just work hard, dude. They're good people. I never been screwed over by an Asian. Like shout out to Asians Man.
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A
Yeah. Some of the best wrestlers I knew in high school, they had Asian. Asian, one Asian parent and one white parent. They were just monsters at wrestling. I don't know what it was. And they were smart, so I guess there's something to it.
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B
I'm telling you, bro, it's a work ethic mixed with the white jeans. It's a good combo. Don't. Don't rule it out. All right. You want kids anytime soon? Are you waiting for a bit?
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A
Nah, definitely not. I mean, I want to start pretty young. Like, my parents had me when they were 24, so I want to aim for, like, around the same.
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B
How old are you right now?
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A
I'm 20.
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B
Okay.
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A
So, I mean, obviously we live in a different age. It is harder to make money. We live in a different society. Like, back then, it was, you know, normal. You get married, you have a job, you have kids, and that's how it goes. But in a broken society, it is a little different.
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B
Yep.
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A
Aiming for 24, but if it's later, then it's later.
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B
Going to be hard in Miami, my man. Real hard.
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A
I'm definitely not raising kids in Miami.
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B
Yeah, Miami's. So you got plans to dip out of there?
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A
I mean, eventually. Again, I'm pretty young. I. I'll stay there while I can, while I, you know, have a reason to stay, but can get pretty degenerate.
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B
Yeah. So you skipped college, though?
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A
I went for a semester of college. And I remember going to class, I'm like, what the. What am I doing here? Like, I'm not repeating high school all over again. Listening from professors who, you know, hate their life. Their barely scraping my. Like, I'm learning business from a person who I don't think has a successful business.
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B
Right.
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A
I look at the people around me, they have no direction in life, and I didn't know what exactly to study. And I'm not saying college is bad for everyone. Like, if you want to be a lawyer, engineer, doctor, obviously go to college, but if you have no direction, and that's what I saw with a lot of my friends or classmates. They go to college just to be doing something. They don't know what they're going to do. So I went to a semester, I'm like, I'm not doing this all over again. And especially in this. In the world we're living in now. Like, I know people who graduated college, they can barely get a job nowadays.
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B
Yep.
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A
Or if they do get a job, they're trying to pay off their debt that they took out to pay for college. So it just does. Doesn't make sense.
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B
They're stuck in the matrix. I'd even say for lawyers with AI now, dude. Like, because I know some top law firms, they're not hiring like lawyers right now. Like, they're just using AI to do their paralegal stuff. I don't think lawyers is the move anymore. Shout out to today's sponsor, Quince. As the weather cools, I'm swapping in the pieces that actually gets the job done that are warm, durable, and built to last. Quince delivers every time with wardrobe staples. They'll carry you through the season. They have fall staples that you'll actually want to wear, like the 100 Mongolian cashmere for just $60. They also got classic fit denim and real leather and wool outerwear that. That looks sharp and holds up. By partnering directly with ethical factories and top artisans, Quince cuts out the middleman to deliver premium quality at half the cost of similar brands. They've really become a go to across the board. You guys know how I love linen and how I've talked about it on previous episodes. I picked up some linen pants and they feel incredible. The quality is definitely noticeable compared to other brands. Layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look. Go to quince.comdsh for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. They're also available in Canva, Canada too.
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A
Yeah, I mean, AI is also a big topic. Like a lot of people, obviously you could say I'm kind of a hypocrite. You know, talking about the Jews or blacks or whatever is kind of steering away from the conversation of AI because, I mean, AI is going to be a big problem, like from when like chat GPT released in like 2023 to where we are now. It's absolutely insane how fast it grew. Like now you could literally de fake videos that will probably be used in court for, like, whatever. And so imagine where we're going to be in the next few years. It's very scary. And like you said, it's not just going to be the cashiers, the Uber drivers. It's also going to be the lawyers. It's going to be the doctors. Like, why would I consult a doctor when I could ask GPT my problems and they can give me a prescription in two seconds?
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B
Dude.
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A
Exactly.
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B
You could literally import your blood results and it'll probably give you better advice than a doctor.
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A
Exactly.
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B
Isn't that nuts?
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A
It's scary. I. I think we're living through very crazy times. Right now, like, I'm not sure where this is going to go. I mean, if 90 of people are gonna not have jobs, I mean, what's going to happen? I mean, crime is probably going to be rampant. People are literally going to be doing anything to survive. They're going to be robbing, probably killing people, things like that. So I don't think people realize the extent of how much this is a problem.
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B
It is. It could go one of two ways. I think it could go down that route very easily. I mean, if it really replaces a large percentage of the workforce, how are people going to live?
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A
Yeah, I mean, I've heard. I mean, the most plausible scenario is probably a universal basic income. I mean, that's probably gonna happen.
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B
You think it will?
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A
I mean, yeah. What else is gonna happen?
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B
I mean, I'm not a fan of that because then it doesn't incentivize you to work or do anything productive in life. You know what I mean? You'll just collect that check and sit on your couch all day.
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A
Yeah, I mean, we could see the people doing that right now who, who get some of these welfare checks. But yeah, I mean, but what's the other option, the people to commit crime? I mean, I would say universal basic income is better than people just going out and being savages. Like, I don't know what the other.
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B
I had to pick one of the two then. Yeah, that sounds better, but I don't know. I hope we don't get there personally.
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A
Unless there's going to be some restrictions, which I don't think. I think it's all part of some plan to do something. Like a lot of people who are Christians, like, I'm not personally religious, but a lot of people who are Christians, you know, they tell me things from the Bible about like the end times prophecy. And it's very scary how real it is. And you know, again, it's. Is it happening because people are trying to make it happen, to believe in a certain narrative or is it actually happening naturally or is it a bit of both? I think people are pushing it in the, in a certain direction and they truly do believe that this prophecy will happen and, you know, the Antichrist or Jesus will come again, their Messiah. And I don't know, it's all, it's, it's very interesting. Like I was talking with someone the other day, they say there's a great reset every like 4,000 years and the 2,000 years in between. It's kind of a minor reset. So we're nearing the time of the next 4,000 year reset. And again, it's not 100, like accurate. It's not every 4,000 years. Exactly. But in that time frame. And you know, the polls are shifting. You know, I've heard rumors of like, underground bunkers that billionaires are building.
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B
Like, I've seen that.
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A
Yeah, China is building, like, cities more inland. So it all makes you think, like, why are they doing this?
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B
That is interesting. I'm, I'm a big fan of conspiracies. That sounds like one I need to look into. End times prophecy. So you're not Christian? Do you have a religion you tie yourself to?
- [23:52]
A
No, not specific. Like, I, I know there's a God. I've always believed in a God. But I think eventually we're going to have to evolve past religion. I think that's kind of my belief. And I think religion has its place. I think it's done a lot of good for the world, but it's also done a lot of bad. Like, if you see throughout history, a lot of the wars were fought, like the Crusades, whatever it might be, or because of religion. I think at a certain point we're just going to have to say, you know, we're better than this. We can accept that there's a God. But do we need to believe a story that might have happened, might not have happened thousands of years ago with no concrete evidence? I don't know.
- [24:28]
B
What about astrology, numerology? You found that?
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A
Yeah, 100%. You know, JP Morgan had a quote. Millionaires don't use astrology, but billionaires do.
- [24:37]
B
Right.
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A
So again, you have to question, if people who are at the top, they're clearly doing things or know more than you, to be in that position are using it, then there must be something to it. And then, you know, you look deeper in certain events or certain people, they're born on, you know, certain days, numero. Numerologically or certain astrological events. And there's definitely something to it. I mean, it'd be crazy to say there's nothing to it. It's all, it's all a coincidence. I mean, math is literally everywhere. The universe was made of math.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But if you ask, like, what are numbers? What is math? Nobody can really kind of answer that. Like, what is it? Is it everything? Is it nothing? It's kind of both at the same time. Like, how were numbers invented? Like, we can't really explain it. We didn't invent them. They were here. We kind of just figured out, figured it out somehow. And I just Think it's a tool to kind of use to your advantage.
- [25:35]
B
That is a valid point. There is a spiritual component, I think, because where do they actually come from? I've never even asked myself that. About numbers.
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A
Yeah, I mean, I think the universe is just made of numbers. Like, everything is encoded somehow. Like, obviously we don't see the numbers, but, you know, the. Whatever, the earth rotating or every human body in our DNA, it's all. It all comes down to math. It all comes down to numbers. It's all a pattern. So, I mean, it'd be delusional to say there's nothing to it.
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B
Well, shout out to Gary, because Gary, the numbers guy. I've met billionaires that use his services, dude, so I'll vouch for him.
- [26:09]
A
Yeah. I mean, Gary's. Gary's a great guy. And again, anyone's watching this, he's not my manager.
- [26:15]
B
Don't say he's your manager.
- [26:16]
A
They do. He has not paid me a dime. He has not given me any connections in the space, but I have learned numerology from him, and he does great work. I think he's the best at what he does. And you kind of have to look at the person who's giving the message as well. Why would I listen to an astrologer or numerologist that is broke, who's been divorced, that doesn't have children, clearly has nothing going for them. But then, you know, Gary, he got rich before even social media. He has children. He's. He has a wife. I think he's been married for, like, 20 years.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So clearly he's using it in his real. In his daily life. So you have to look at the messenger as well as the message.
- [26:54]
B
Yep.
- [26:55]
A
Yeah.
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B
He married a virgin. Pretty impressive these days. That is honestly unheard of these days. He's the only one I know that's done it.
- [27:01]
A
The only one.
- [27:02]
B
You know more than that.
- [27:03]
A
Yeah, I know a few people, but.
- [27:05]
B
A handful at most. Right. It's not a common thing.
- [27:08]
A
Yeah. Not especially in the U.S. no, no. The people who I. The people who I know, they. They went, like, to South America or, like, Eastern Europe.
- [27:15]
B
Exactly. It's.
- [27:16]
A
It's rare and it's. It's a shame.
- [27:18]
B
Yeah, it is. It definitely is. You own any Palantir stock?
- [27:22]
A
I do not. Palantir is pretty scary, but it's. I mean, it's not surprising when that came out and people were, like, freaking out, like, they already have a database on you. I guess they put it out in the public, and obviously you have to look at the people who own this, own the company, you know, the people behind it and what their motives are. But I mean, we carry a phone everywhere. They can, they can listen to everything that we say. Like all your information is on your phone. So if they want to get you, they're gonna get you. There's no hiding nowadays unless you throw away all your electronics, go off the grid. But I mean, who wants to live like that, right? So, I mean, people freak out about these things. But I mean, you have again, you have a phone.
- [28:06]
B
We're all part of the system. We all have exposure to it. The only way to get rid of it is, I guess, going off grid. But like you said, how is that a life? Like, what are you going to do all day?
- [28:15]
A
Yeah, I mean, you know, we live in a imperfect world. We live in a broken world. And are you going to play the game and try to get ahead, or are you just going to completely log out and, you know, stop playing? And I don't know, I. Maybe once you're older, you know, you've seen all the bullshit, you've went through it and you're like, whatever, I want to check out and, and go live in the woods with my wife and kids. I get it then. But like, if you're young, you want to make something of yourself, you actually want to make a change, at least try. Even if nothing happens, at least try, right? Like, what's the worst that can happen? Gonna lose everything. I mean, nowadays, at least in the us can't even be homeless. I mean, you could get a shitty job, even get on welfare. I mean, you could go sleep on the beach, shower at the beach, get a gym membership for 10amonth. I mean, really, nothing bad can happen. And that's the problem with nowadays. And I think that's why I kind of, you know, blew up so fast, is people are just scared. They don't want to put anything on the line. And even me making videos, I'm not really putting much on the line. Like, yeah, sure, I could get canceled. It's probably going to be hard for me to get a regular job, but I mean, I wasn't going to do that anyway. I don't, I don't care. So, I mean, people just, there's, there's a lack of real men with ambition who aren't scared to stand up for their beliefs. And it's a shame, I feel.
- [29:31]
B
Did you lose relationships with family and friends when you started posting content?
- [29:35]
A
No. Again, I, like, I, I've always been genuine. Like, I'VE thought this way even before I started posting things. And I always share my beliefs with everyone, so, I mean, my family's been supportive of me. Like, obviously, don't. They don't agree 100% with everything I say. Sometimes they're scared. Scared for me about the stuff I post, obviously. And my friends. No, they think it's. It's funny. They usually agree with me for the most part. And if they don't, then I'm not friends with you.
- [30:01]
B
Yeah. Respect. What would you say at Your age, at 20 years old, is your. Your mission right now? What are you trying to get out there?
- [30:07]
A
Yeah, so, I mean, I'm trying to just make people think, to be honest. Like, I don't want people to agree with me right away, and it'd be stupid for you to agree with everything I say. I mean, first of all, most of them are jokes, but even the more serious stuff I post, I just want you to hear a different perspective because from birth, we're taught one side of the story. You never get to hear the other side. And you can't come to your own conclusion because you. You're so shoved one side of the story at all times. So. And the information isn't that accessible. Like, obviously, it's pretty accessible now with your phone. There are certain websites or apps that you could go and actually see the other side. And again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. And I know I'm going to be wrong about a lot of things and my views will evolve, but for the most part, I just want people to think I. I hate cancel culture like we talked about at the start, and I'm trying to do my best to do something about it.
- [30:58]
B
You've been following this Fuentes versus Candace beef.
- [31:02]
A
Nah, I don't. I don't follow it too much, really. I mean, I heard about it. No, I definitely have heard about it. I think it's just kind of ridiculous. Like, people would love to stir up drama about the dumbest stuff, but I guess that's the, you know, that's the social media game. But, yeah, it was kind of weird. Like, everyone started attacking him at the same time.
- [31:21]
B
Yeah, Tucker, Candace, there's a couple others.
- [31:23]
A
Yeah, Elon.
- [31:24]
B
Elon, yeah.
- [31:25]
A
Tate jumped in. He said a few words. I don't know, was it planned for something more maybe? Were these people trying to get clout off him? Because obviously he's been very popular recently, getting, I think, 40, 000 viewers a night on Rumble.
- [31:39]
B
And that's live. That's really hard to do.
- [31:41]
A
Yeah. That is. That is insane. That is absolutely insane. So, I mean, clearly there's a shift in the world. They don't want to hear the same nonsense every time. And then when someone like Nick, even though I don't agree with everything he says, he's just a fresh voice that people can listen to, and clearly he's uncensored. You know, he'll. He'll use slurs. He'll make, like, these edgy jokes, and it's kind of like a breath of fresh air. Like, people hate the PC culture. You're not allowed to make jokes about anyone or say things that you see in front of your eyes. It's insanity.
- [32:12]
B
Yeah. You do share. You two share a lot of similar beliefs on race.
- [32:16]
A
Yeah.
- [32:17]
B
And. And Israel.
- [32:20]
A
I think most people do for the.
- [32:21]
B
Most part these days. Yeah.
- [32:23]
A
Yeah. I mean, especially on Twitter. And obviously Twitter is not real life, but, I mean, there's anonymous accounts that will be ratioing politicians. I mean, that's. That's insane.
- [32:33]
B
By a good amount, too. They'll be ratioing them, like, 10 to 1.
- [32:36]
A
Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. So clearly there's something in the air. And even I saw, like, I think Matt Walsh and I forgot the other guy's name, but they started, like, picking up, like, the Knicks talking points.
- [32:49]
B
Really?
- [32:49]
A
Or like the. I guess the alt rights talking.
- [32:52]
B
Oh, wow.
- [32:53]
A
Yeah. They made a tweet, I think, a month or two ago that we should stop immigration and if we want immigrants only let in white immigrants. Something along. Along those lines.
- [33:02]
B
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
- [33:03]
A
Yeah. And that would be so taboo a few years ago, but now a very mainstream person is coming out and saying that. Why is that?
- [33:11]
B
That is interesting. What do you think of Charlie Kirk? I know you were just at his event with me.
- [33:19]
A
I don't know what to think about him. Like, obviously he. Someone's paying him a decent amount of.
- [33:23]
B
Money to, you know, I know his salary.
- [33:26]
A
Really?
- [33:26]
B
I don't know if it's public, so maybe I shouldn't say it.
- [33:28]
A
Probably not.
- [33:29]
B
It's. It's higher than most people would. Would think. I'll say that.
- [33:32]
A
I know. Yeah. These people definitely get paid a lot of money. I. I could probably think of a ballpark of what.
- [33:37]
B
Dude, in the political commentary space, people don't know this, but the top political podcasts and, like, creators are making seven figures minimum, some of them eight a year.
- [33:46]
A
Yeah. I mean, if you have influence and, you know, someone wants you to say a specific point that people are interested in, gain support for of course that's worth money. And these people print the money. They don't care. Money is nothing to them. So again, Charlie Kirk, I mean some of the things he says I can agree with, but a lot of it, you can see which topics he is kind of hides inside his shell when people ask him.
- [34:10]
B
I feel that, I feel that. I feel like a few years ago I really liked him a lot when he first came on the scene, was doing the debates. It was really innovative. Yeah, no one was doing that. But then over time, it's like the same thing over and over. I'm like, what are your actual beliefs? You know what I mean?
- [34:24]
A
Yeah, that's the thing with a lot of these people. A lot of them are grifters or they are paid to, you know, switch their beliefs and they'll say whatever they're told to say. But yeah, you have to evolve at a certain point. If you keep spitting the same, the same things out for years on end and I mean, you have to evolve, right? Like, I know I'm gonna evolve in a year from now, I'll probably have a lot different beliefs than I do do now.
- [34:48]
B
So you think you'll be able to turn down some big money when it starts coming your way?
- [34:52]
A
I hope so.
- [34:54]
B
It's easy to talk about it, but once, once it comes on paper, it's like shit. But I've turned down some big offers, bro.
- [35:01]
A
Really?
- [35:01]
B
I'm still independent right now. Yeah.
- [35:03]
A
Nice. Yeah, I know a lot of people who have turned down these big offers later, later on, and it might take years, but they start getting a lot more. And again, they're independent, they don't have to answer to people. So it is respectable and hopefully I, I hope, I like to say that I would turn these offers down, but again, once it's in front of your face, it's different.
- [35:22]
B
I mean, Sneako just came on, he turned down a six million dollar gambling deal a few weeks ago. So shout out to him.
- [35:28]
A
Yeah, respect for that. Like if you have beliefs and you, you stand on them, that's respectable. No matter, you know what I think of you personally. But I mean, it's respectable and a lot of people can't do that. And I see people, usually anonymous accounts with no followings that are shit on other people for certain decisions they made. But you've never been in that person's shoes.
- [35:46]
B
Facts.
- [35:46]
A
If you were in that person's shoes, you'd sell out for a lot, lot less.
- [35:50]
B
I agree. I don't respond to anonymous accounts. Do you even Give them your time.
- [35:54]
A
Also, sometimes I like to like mess around with them. Um, they used to get into my head a little bit. Like when there's a lot of them coming at you, like, damn. It kind of does get to your head.
- [36:02]
B
Yeah. I mean, that feels, if it's all targeted like that, it feels fake to me.
- [36:07]
A
Look, I'm not going to name names. I, I know some people who, you know, have group chats that might target specific people and I, I know I've been targeted for one and. Really? Yeah. 100%. 100%.
- [36:17]
B
Why? So that's just a group chat and they're like, go hate on this guy.
- [36:21]
A
Yeah, yeah. For specific reasons. Whether something you said or if you don't support a certain.
- [36:27]
B
Wow.
- [36:28]
A
So it is pretty ridiculous. And that's the thing about the, I guess the white nationalist space. I don't even know what the space is called at this point. It's everyone hating on each other, ankle biting, it's, it's very grimy.
- [36:41]
B
So do you label yourself that, a white nationalist?
- [36:44]
A
No, I don't. Because I don't even know what that means nowadays. Like, I first, like, like I said earlier, I don't think the country can be all white. I don't think white people are superior. Are they better at certain things than other people? 100%. Are other people better at other things than white people?
- [37:00]
B
No.
- [37:00]
A
Yes, I do. I do love my race. I do. I think there's a need to push that out there to the young people especially because again, like we talked about earlier, it's been so suppressed and we've been taught white people have been demonized so much in the media. Like, I mean, I was just in California and I was walking down the street and all the ads are like mixed race people, non white people, or it's a mixed race couple. And it really makes you think, you know, who's pushing this. And then, you know, you look deeper, you look at the companies, you look who funds them, you look at some of the CEOs, and then all it all starts to make sense. Like there's obviously an agenda being pushed. It's not natural. It didn't come out of nowhere. I mean, they started pushing this for a reason, to normalize it. Like in movies, TV shows, you know, even like gay people start adding them. And when they're such a minority, then like you look at TV shows, half the people are gay. This isn't real life. Or I even saw in a Mr. Beast video, he made the cop black and the criminal white and why is he doing that? I mean, if you look at the statistics, if you look at these positions, I mean, most cops are white and most criminals are black. So why are the roles inversed that it isn't.
- [38:15]
B
I just watched that video. That's a good point. Holy crap. Do you think you could be born gay?
- [38:21]
A
No. No, definitely. Actually, you can, I think, be born gay if your parents, you know, ate food and had a lifestyle that kind of messed up their hormones. I think it could like leak into.
- [38:34]
B
The baby or like a lot of tofu and stuff.
- [38:37]
A
Yeah, tofu. Or, you know, vaccines, you know, certain foods, GMO foods, you know, even the water you drink. I think all those do affect you. So maybe when the baby's born and they have these messed up hormones, maybe they'll. They will have gay tendencies. But, I mean, it's definitely not normal.
- [38:54]
B
I could actually see that. I've never heard that argument, but that makes. To me, that makes logical sense. Like, you are what you eat. So if you're eating a bunch of birth control and tofu and soy and like, the kid's not going to be tough, you know?
- [39:05]
A
Yeah, 100. You know, people love to make the argument of like, oh, animals are gay, but I mean, we're not animals. Animals, you know, go and rape other animals. Are we gonna say that's okay? Is that normal? I don't. We're obviously above animals. We're different than animals. So, I mean, that argument is very stupid.
- [39:23]
B
I didn't know animals were gay.
- [39:25]
A
Actually, some of them, I guess, do have homosexual.
- [39:29]
B
Really?
- [39:29]
A
Yeah.
- [39:30]
B
Maybe they're just horny and they can't find anything to have sex with.
- [39:33]
A
Yeah, that's what I think, to be honest. But I mean, if you look at the. How many more people are gay nowadays than it was back then? There's a lot more. And people will say, oh, because it's more accepted. But, you know, I don't buy that for a second.
- [39:48]
B
I wonder what the percentage is these days of gay people. It's got to be high. We might have to look it up.
- [39:54]
A
We can look.
- [39:54]
B
What's your guess? I'll look it up real quick. In the world, it's should we do world or us? Let's do us.
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A
Us. How many people are gay? I would say like 2%. I think I looked at this.
- [40:06]
B
2%?
- [40:07]
A
Yeah.
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B
What percentage of gay people live in the United States? I wonder if this includes women, though. I'm talking about what percentage of gay people live in the usa. Fuck my data. Slow. We'll edit this out, dude. Okay, so 7.1% of adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or something other than heterosexual. 1 in 14 adults. And that's just people that admit it. Dude.
- [40:36]
A
So it's.
- [40:37]
B
Dude, it could be higher. Could be closer to 10, 15.
- [40:41]
A
Okay. That is. Actually, I did not realize it was.
- [40:43]
B
That because you got to think about it. Why would you admit it on a study? Like, if you're gay and you're. You're scared about it, but like, people.
- [40:49]
A
Aren'T scared about it anymore. I mean, sure, some people are, but. Wow. 7%.
- [40:54]
B
7%. That's high.
- [40:55]
A
Do you know the gayest city in the world?
- [40:57]
B
If I had to guess, would it be New York City?
- [41:00]
A
No, it's actually not in the us.
- [41:01]
B
Oh, where is it?
- [41:02]
A
It's in the Middle East. What?
- [41:04]
B
That's shocking.
- [41:05]
A
Well, I mean, a certain country in the Middle East.
- [41:08]
B
Oh, it starts with an I.
- [41:10]
A
It does start with. Ends with the L. Damn.
- [41:12]
B
Do you think because they, they shame it so much that people want to do it.
- [41:16]
A
Like it's very acceptable actually over there. So the city is tel Aviv and 25 of people identify as LGBT.
- [41:24]
B
25? Yeah. Dude, that's insane. That can't be natural. They have to be doing something different over there.
- [41:32]
A
I don't know what's happening over there.
- [41:33]
B
I mean, 25%, that's one in four people.
- [41:36]
A
Yeah.
- [41:37]
B
Like, holy shit.
- [41:38]
A
Something in the water there. And I don't know. Alex.
- [41:41]
B
Alex Jones was right.
- [41:42]
A
Alex Jones was right.
- [41:44]
B
I mean, he called that water thing back when I was in high school and people were like, he's crazy. And now there's birth control and water. It is affecting your hormones.
- [41:51]
A
Yeah. I think that was like my first red pill. I remember I was in high school, I used to watch the Alex Jones. I remember. I think I watched him on like Joe Rogan. It was like a six hour long pod. Yeah.
- [42:00]
B
Classic.
- [42:00]
A
Yeah, he was talking about that, like, damn. And then, you know, you look into it and then somehow you end up that it wasn't 6 million. So it's a weird rabbit hole.
- [42:10]
B
Yeah. And then he gets sued for over a billion or trillion. Something crazy like that.
- [42:13]
A
Yeah, A billion for Sandy Hook.
- [42:16]
B
Nuts. He can't even post on social media anymore. Right. He's all. All on. Where is he posting his own platform?
- [42:21]
A
Yeah, I think I forgot. Maybe it's infowars.com.
- [42:25]
B
Infowars.
- [42:26]
A
I think it's a different platform or site though. But I mean, he does have an X account now. I think, unfortunately he is kind of Compromised?
- [42:33]
B
You think he's compromised now?
- [42:35]
A
I mean, if you get sued for a billion dollars and you don't have the money to pay for it, and maybe, you know, some people say maybe you could say this or not say this, and, you know, we'll lower it. We'll help you out. I hope. I hope not. He used to say some great stuff. I still have hope. Most of the things he says is. Is great, but, you know, some topics, you could see, he gets a little uncomfortable. Yeah.
- [42:56]
B
Who would you say in the political commentary space is not compromised right now? It's probably a short list. Like, who are you confident about that they're not paid off in some way?
- [43:14]
A
That's. That's a tough question.
- [43:16]
B
Fuentes.
- [43:19]
A
I don't know. You know, there's accusations of him, and again, I don't want to say anything that hasn't been confirmed, and I'm not going to go too in depth about it, but, you know, I. I like to think he's not, you know, he has gotten his bank account shut down. He has gotten banned almost everywhere.
- [43:36]
B
Yeah.
- [43:38]
A
I'd like to think he's not. And again, it's. It's hard to know. And when people say compromise, it's not as easy to say. Like, they give me money and they tell me what to say or what not to say. They might, you know, buy you a gift and not even say anything, but then, you know, then it's in your head, like, oh, this person from this group gave me a gift. And like, I know what his beliefs are. Maybe I'll go a little lighter on this topic.
- [44:01]
B
Like a subconscious programming almost.
- [44:03]
A
Yeah. So I don't think it's so black and white.
- [44:05]
B
Yeah. I don't think it's as blackmailey as people think. I think it could be a donation. It could be. Pull up to your event, some stuff like that. I would say Myron Gaines. I like.
- [44:14]
A
I do like Myron. Yeah, I don't think he's.
- [44:15]
B
I don't think he's compromised. I know people say he used to work as a fed or whatever and he still is undercover, but I don't think so. I'd like to think Fuentes, too. I used to think Candace, but I don't know, dude, the France thing was weird to me.
- [44:30]
A
Yeah. Like, why are you so obsessed with calling another political leaders a wife's wife? Trans like it. Like, what does that even accomplish? It's like it doesn't make sense.
- [44:40]
B
Like, I get one video about it.
- [44:42]
A
But come on, you've been Dragging it for too long. There's more important things to focus on.
- [44:46]
B
Yeah.
- [44:46]
A
Who cares if it's a dude? I mean, sure, that's weird, but, like, does that really change anything? And now she's getting sued, honestly. Good. What did you think you were. Is gonna happen?
- [44:56]
B
Yeah. She announced a fundraiser. Buy some T shirts to fund her. That's gonna be an expensive lawsuit. Anything international is millions, dude.
- [45:03]
A
Yeah. Around find out, I guess. What are you doing?
- [45:06]
B
You're gonna need to get some good media insurance for the. You say?
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A
Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I. I try to be pretty, you know, cautious, have my money diversified and things like that, but again, if they want to get you, they'll get you no matter what. So, I mean, I don't stress about it too much. I. I know the things I'm saying are controversial and they're probably gonna get me in some trouble down the line, but, I mean, it's part of the game and the tides are shifting. It's not so taboo how it was a few years ago. Like, a few years ago, if I posted some of the stuff I do on Instagram, ban immediately.
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B
Facts.
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A
But now there's literally like Hitler edits on Instagram.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's kind of crazy how fast things change.
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B
Dude. I see people dying on Instagram. Literally dying. Getting shot or run over by a train.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like they're desensitizing you intentionally.
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A
Oh, yeah. 100. And it really makes you think, why are they letting all these things slide nowadays? Is there something more to it? And my. I thought about this quite a bit, actually. I think what they're trying to do is, you know, people. It's like mental masturbation for people. You know, they post about whatever the Jews, you know, black crime statistics all day long. But then in the real world, it's getting worse. People feel like they're winning about, you know, more people are talking about it while more people are noticing. But then groups out in the real world, like, for example, you know, Patriot Front, I just met with them recently, they're banned off everything. They can't even post on Twitter. If you post about them, you're very likely to get a strike or get banned.
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B
Damn.
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A
So they're scared of people actually organizing in the real world, even. They're not doing anything illegal. They're literally just there. Or they have a group of men that are organized. They go work out. You know, they go eat, they go train.
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B
Yeah.
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A
They go march at protests. I mean, it's nonviolent. They're following the laws. But why are they so scared of that? Hmm.
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B
That's why it's important to do in. In person stuff, too. I know a lot of people got big followings online, but it's always important to meet up in real life.
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A
Yeah. I mean, again, it's like, how. How long can you talk about the same things every time? Like, there's only so many things to talk about. About some of the topics in the sphere I'm in. I mean, eventually you actually have to do something in the real world.
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B
Yeah. You got to take some action.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Well, dude, what's next for you? Where can people find you? I'd love to get you on a debate one day, too. I think you do.
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A
Well, yeah, I'm not. I'm not too big into debates. I have a few times. I feel like I'm getting better a little bit.
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B
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