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Hidden Messages In Your Favorite Brands Exposed! | Roderick Martin DSH #838
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Uncover the hidden messages behind your favorite brands with us on the Digital Social Hour! 🌟 Dive deep into the secrets of symbolism and authority with our special guest, Roderick Martin. Ever wondered if brands are sending subliminal messages? 🤔 T
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Because I get it all the time, hey, Roderick, what do they look like? And I say, what if we look like them? And the process of that, if any of us have children, you know, like this gentleman here, you know, with his son, if someone walked up and said, hey, you look just like your son, he should correct them. No, he looks like me. I created him. You get what I'm saying?
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B
All right, guys, fellow podcaster Roderick Martin here. We met at Billy Carson's award show, man, and it's good to finally be together here.
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A
Yeah. Hey, man, I mean, glad to see you here. And of course, we had a great time in Miami.
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B
Yeah.
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A
On that yacht party and everything else.
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B
It was a blast.
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A
Now you're in my hometown. Yeah.
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B
And you beat me out for podcast of the year, so congrats.
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A
You know what? Yes. Okay. We can say I did. Thank you. But I just. Thank you for not really just pushing your audience to do all that voting.
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B
Yeah, I should have pushed harder, man. You got me. You got me. Next year, though, I'm coming for you.
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A
Actually, it's a true story. I was just on the phone with somebody yesterday, and they were saying, he said, didn't you win the podcast? I said, you know, I think he probably came in there because he knew, you know, he's got a big audience. Right. I said, but I'm pushing out my art. Because all he had to do was one statement, vote for me, y'all, and it was a done deal.
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B
Yeah, I didn't push it hard enough. But you beat some big shows, man. You beat Shawn Ryan out, too, so.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a great pleasure. Last year, I was run up, so I experienced this. I don't know if you remember Robert Grant.
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B
Yeah. Robert Edward Grant.
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A
Yeah. So he was in the same category last year, and he was sitting directly behind me. So you can imagine when Elizabeth was there, and she kind of was rolling off the name, Right? And so I'm jumping. I actually jumped up out of my seat. Robert Grant. I was like, oh, yeah. Hey, brother. That's awkward, man.
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B
But, yeah, that's funny, man. Anything new in the alien UFO space lately that you're working on?
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A
Yeah, you know, a lot of people don't know that. Just recently, probably about two weeks ago, I would say a week ago, every sheriff department or chief in every police department within the United States just got a memo or 11 page document about UAPs.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah, that's a real good signal to let the public know that it's about to happen. There's a Lot of things about to go down. There's a lot of. They're already getting the public ready. You know, that's why you're hearing a lot of information. And people now have calm down with the fact the UFOs and that's done on purpose.
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B
Okay, so what was in the. Did you read the document?
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A
Yeah, mainly it was just procedure. It was a lot of procedure of how they needed to handle things. Now, what stood out the most to me, they did an interview on tv. They interview one of the sheriff departments or chief of police and he says, yeah, well, it's all about, you know, us having helicopters. I'm sure that they're worrying about what's happening in the air. And I'm going, not over here in this city with 200 people. They ain't got no helicopter. Why do they need to get the memo? Because they're the ones who sent them out in the rural areas out there, you know, and so they're everywhere. They've been here. They've always been here.
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B
Interesting. So you think they've been here for longer than humans or.
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A
Yeah, I think that we were brought here to Earth. You know, humans was brought here. We can go all the way back to biblical times, or we can go all the way back to. But it's in the Bible. There's a lot of stuff that we, you know, were here. So when you think about all the Anunnaki stories and there was some type of human here, let's put it this way.
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B
Right.
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A
But we have been altered to fit this reality that we're in today.
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B
I like that. Because when they taught evolution in school, how we came from a tadpole, I never really believed it, to be honest.
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A
Right.
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B
You know, that just seemed kind of far fetched to me.
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A
Well. And you know what? Give credit to those teachers because they tried. Right. And because nobody knew anything much. You know, scientists, they had their way of we evolved from apes. And then yet you have all these artifacts and Egyptian hieroglyphs and things that we can't even do today. And we don't have machinery to even construct or move. Have things on the walls of things that we have today. And it's like, you know, this whole thing is weird, you know, and it's worth for people to really get curious about it.
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B
Absolutely. So when did you get involved with this stuff? Was it at a young age?
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A
Yeah, I grew up here in Dallas and the Dallas Zoo is right down the street there. And so that's. We was probably about two blocks from the zoo. So I grew up with a lot of animal noises because back then, you know, the lions would roar at night when they're hungry, and helicopters every now and then if a gorilla or something got loose, you know, the neighborhood was only alert. But then we had this tradition where we played under the streetlight and where my mom would say, or everybody's mom, because it was a little more of a village then, you know, we. When it's time to get dark, they'll flick the porch light. So you had to stay within a visual of that porch light. Just so happened mine flicked early. And I was the walker, the shame, and everybody, you gotta go in. Because it was always this thing. And it was right when the sun was. I mean, not sun, but the stars was just coming out. So it was getting dark as I was walking into the house, you know, we have this walkway. I looked up and there it was. There was a kind of a white disc, and it was just zigzagging, and there was two jets falling behind it. And I didn't realize how significant that moment was in my life. Of course, I knew it was something strange. I knew that it was some spaceship because I grew up with comic books and, you know, whatever, but I just was like, wow. And I never told anyone. You know, I just kept it my secret because of the stigma and things, and growing up in the church. And there was just things we couldn't talk about when it came down. Was there something else out there?
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B
Right. Because this stuff is seen as taboo, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. I think it's taboo in a lot of cultures, but especially in our community, which we're heavily within Christianity, and therefore there's nothing else besides the book is the book, the Word is the word. But in the Word, there are things that's indicators that I think a lot of our pastors skip over.
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B
Right.
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Or they define it differently, which I see it different today.
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B
Yeah. Because a lot of the Bible is subjective, right?
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Yeah.
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B
It's how you're interpreting the message.
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So I think so. And that's kind of my difference within the church today because, you know, you sit out there in the audience. You know, I attended a big church in the past, and, you know, they tell you to stand up and turn the page, whatever, and he reads you. We all reading the same thing. And then, of course, what's the difference in my interpretation and his interpretation, which is different, because he's gonna see it this way. And the game is to get me to see it his way and not follow that gut instinct of what you.
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B
Think, you know, Yeah, I think that's just education in general, though, like in the school system too.
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School system everywhere. And I think the whole system is set up to what I consider to say this illusion of the way they want the authority, and that's my branding now, is truth versus authority. And I think that truth is the truth. And so often we take authority as truth, whether it be a pastor, whether it be a parent. And I'm not saying it's in a negative sense, except that if this parent, pastor or politician has wrong information, but yet they're in authority position and you're taking whatever they're saying because the authority, then that's not the truth. So I think a lot of people don't understand that truth is authority, and authority is not what we need to be paying attention to. Authority should complement the truth.
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B
That's interesting because a lot of parents raise their kids on like, I'm always right.
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Oh, yes. I mean, I said so. And just because of that and. But you got to think about it, because kids, when we were kids, we were at our most curiosity stage. We were untainted. So we would ask that why? Why? And then eventually it's beat out of you don't ask me why. Because you're conditioned. Like the elephant in a circus where how they tied the little rope when it's a baby, it's pulling. And once it got conditioned, the strongest creature on the earth cannot or think it can't break that little rope. And this is why oftentimes when a circus elephant goes crazy, he realized he got the strength. Now he like, oh, the sham. Right? I'm tearing this up. Oh, yeah, you too, right? Oh, yeah, you too, you. So it's like that break free moment.
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B
Yeah.
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And we're looking for that as our civilizations.
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B
Absolutely. Yeah. It's almost like we're taught not to really question things anymore.
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You're not. And in my community, that's one thing I tell everybody. Question everything, question the narrative. Because if you do that, you can open up not just a can of worms, but you're gonna open up the curiosity, the possibility to see things that are totally different. Because the worst case scenario, Sean, is when you got people that all their lives they thought something to be true. And when they do get enough information that says that is not true, some people cannot bend to that. And the same thing, people who think something wasn't true all their lives get enough information, it was true. And this is where cognitive distance is set in, because it's like the new reality. People Meet me today. I'm not the person they met four years ago or someone who met me in high school. If their mind can't shift to the new reality of who I am and what I talk about, what I represent, they're going to keep seeing me there. Even though I have a new truth today, it is a new reality that I do what I do for a living. And if they cannot converge on that, and that's some family members, that's for everything. It's a difficult process, and that's what we deal with with the UFOs, because we're now realizing we are not alone in this universe. We are not alone. They do walk among us.
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B
Wow.
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Yeah. And that reality is going to show. It's just that how people are going to react. And I think my community specifically is going to be one of the hardest communities to deal with that reality. Although our culture, our history represent the fact that we should know this information all the way back to the Dogon tribes, all the way back to Egyptian times, the elements have been there for us to understand that we are, even as a people, our culture dates all the way back. Yeah.
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B
That's fascinating. So when you say, walk among us, what does that look like? Because I personally think cloning exists. You know what I mean?
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Okay, so let's go with a biblical term now, especially for us Christians who. And I still am today, you know, I'm just a curious Christian. You know, my curiosity goes past the door. So when you think about that question, because I get it all the time, hey, Roderick, what do they look like? And I say, what if we look like them? And the process of that, if any of us have children, you know, like this gentleman here, you know, with his son, if someone walked up and said, hey, you look just like your son, he should correct him, no, he looks like me. I created him. You get what I'm saying? So when you think about, what do they look like? And if you go biblical and you can go Genesis, chapter 1, verse 26, and says, let's make man in our image, in the likenesses of ourselves. Now, let's go with school education. Our is plural. Ourselves is plural. That is not one God. Speaking that we are trained in church constantly. Oh, yeah. It's the Trinity, the Spirit, the Son, the Holy Ghost. Oh, really? Okay, we're going to combine that. R. Right. So when I want my check, it's our check. No, you just get a check. You know, so when you think about that scripture alone, let's make men in our image. Someone or some things are saying they look like us. So does that make the possibility that they can walk among us unnoticed because we look like them and not so much. Now, I'm not saying that every alien species is like that because we have a lot of different species of extraterrestrial that visit this planet. But whoever was that particular creator is saying is right there in written sight. The book is the book, the word is the word. Let's make man in our image and the likeness of ourselves. So it's up to people to interpret the way they need to interpret. And can they push it further and look at one of these authorities and ask them for the truth? Hey, is our meaning just one? Or even Moses says to. To Noah. I mean, not Moses, but when they told. Was it Moses? No, I'm sorry. Go back and replenish the Earth. That means somebody was already here. You know, we just took you away from this flood. Go back and put y'all back on here. Yeah, so those are. It's just a lot of those simple things that I think if people will.
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B
Look at it right, and the media wants us to fear aliens, but what is your take on their purpose and why they're here?
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Well, this is where it gets a little deeper for me. I think that a lot of people don't understand that. And for example, I'll go with this. In the past, you would say, hey, hi, this is. What do you do? You. Roderick Martin. Okay, so, like this one, when I walked in, he says, what do you do? I just told him, I'm a podcaster or whatever. Had I gave that other answer is that, hey, I am infinite consciousness, living the reality of this. Roderick Martin, this YouTuber, podcaster. And so having said that, knowing that, the possibility that we're in some construct, that we're in some matrix, we see it all over social media. People get these glitches all the time. We tag them as something crazy or, oh, it's just TikTok or whatever. So to say that then. And when you get all the way over to secret societies, occults, and all of these things, and secret society, you know, occults is just hidden information. We hear the word occult and we thinking, stay away from. Well, we were trained to stay away from it. But it has a literal definition of hidden information. So how do we tie that into the media? Well, when you think about these big corporations and you think about all of these people being run by these secret societies all the way back to the Vatican, all the way to the 13 families, the Illuminati's all the way to big media corporations and companies. You know, the big deal is how can a handful of people control 5 billion people? Well, it's simple. Keep them in the dark of their true selves and new information. It's no different than me going get my car repaired to a mechanic on the engine or whatever. Now, most us people like to do things for ourselves. You do too. You know, why do we have specialized people around? Because they know something we don't know. And if they keep that secret from us, I'm going to continue to pay or do for those services that they're great at because I didn't take the time to learn. So we put that in more of an illusionary term. They are great at hiding the true secrets of life. Whether we're frequencies, whether how we are to respond to the environment and things, and it's right in plain sight. Billy talks about it a lot, but the media is designed to feed us a 24, 7 12, 365 reality of what they want us to. And this is the point where people say, well, all you see is on the news is crime and all that. Well, fear is one of the biggest energy sources of the other side of things that a lot of people ain't ready to talk about.
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B
Right? Yeah, because they want to put you in that state. So you're more controllable, right?
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You're more controllable, you're more docile, you're going to be more, you're going to listen to authority a lot better. And you're not going to go into your truth, confidence, consciousness to understand truth. Is that consciousness, authority is the mind. And a lot of time it's our mind is what they're after is our mind, which is the whole power of control. It's no different than military. They break the people down psychologically first, then instill the new programming. So it's a weapon. It's been done since we've been here.
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B
I could see that. I would say the first 18 years of my life I was in a fear based mentality.
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Okay.
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Because I used to watch the news every day.
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All right, so what, what, what stood out the most to you?
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Nah, I just felt like I was, I didn't know at the time I was being like influenced that way through music, through news. And when the whole Trump stuff started happening about the fake news, I think that's kind of where I started questioning things.
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Yeah, I think and, and, and, and I think that was a, how can I put it? It wasn't Intended consequences for that wake up to happen that way. But yet when Trump was putting the words out there, fake news to counterbalance what he was doing, it also led people to curiosity and it opened up doors to other stuff that people didn't know. And I think that's one of the things from there. So where were your turning point? Where was it?
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B
It was just stop watching the news. I was listening to a lot of hip hop and rap music at the time. Like about taking drugs and all this crazy Stu. Listening to that. Even. Like, I would listen to depressing hip hop music about, like suicide and like dying young. Just stop listening to all that. Stop drinking alcohol. I used to smoke a lot of weed. Stop doing that. So those four things turned me into a completely new person.
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Yeah. And I think all of those things you'll probably have realized were affecting the mind, which is one of the most powerful things out there in our mind is. And so. And I can understand that because music is one of the most weaponry that they have because our consciousness can be infiltrated by sound. That is one thing you can't stop. I can stop somebody from coming in here with information that I don't want to receive. Go back. But the infiltration side of things is what we cannot block. What we can't. Our ears just can't block it. If it's happening at a pitch that we're not normally listening to or understanding those frequencies there and everything, they're healing people's body with frequency. Now, I do brain training every night. And it's all about the frequencies. Right. So imagine some covert information that's embedded into music and sound. Yeah. We think that's a cool beat. Oh, yeah. Listen to them. Highs and lows. But that highs and lows is sending messages. And you see it. You can see it in a club. They can all be sitting there having a good time in a song or Come on. That has the right beat, the right. And the whole crowd and the guns come up. Yeah. You know, it's like party time, you know, and it's there. It's right in our faces.
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B
Crazy people don't know.
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Yeah. And I think that they don't want to know. Oftentimes when you think what it is, it just works for you. Or there's nothing that's on the other side. You don't push for the other side. So it's almost like the whole point of, hey, the grass is not greener on the other side, man. You better go over there and find out if it is right. You know, you know what I'm saying? I've been in what we call these MLM meetings. The person in front of the room is wealthy and tell everybody, yeah, you want to just do this for your family. But then I also say, well, you know, money is not everything and you want this. And, you know, I would have people behind me cheering. I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's something I need to find out for myself. And I agree, money is not everything, but I rate it right up there with oxygen.
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You better believe it's up there. It's up there.
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It's up there.
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It's really important. Honestly, I don't like when people just.
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Say, it's not like, yeah, I mean, and there's no. There's no reason. I grew up where money is the root of all evil. What I tell you what, it's the root lack of that, you know, and we can put that in terminology, but I think people pushing for it now, don't get me wrong, there is such thing called greed. There's such thing called that. You don't want to have that to be your basic decision. And it's causing you to not make the right choices of who and people you're interacting with because of it.
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Right.
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But with a good collaboration, things and people, it could. It'll change people's lives. It always has.
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B
Yep. I also want to touch on symbolism. So there's big companies that have that.
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Absolutely. I think that symbolism today is. Is something that is weeded out of human conversation. The psychic. If you go back and we'll get into those corporations real quick. Symbolism was the ancient way that all humans communicated. It's embedded in all of us. A man that does not. And I'm saying man as in man not, you know, well, we're in this world. A person, he, she, whoever, that does not go back and understand symbolism is not understanding who they are. And symbolism was the only way men communicated before words even existed. Symbolism have magic. It has all of these things. It can get things happening just by the symbols. And I can say this literally in more of a downturn, a downside, and we can get into the other part, but if there was something breaks out in here and all of somebody just done something through. I don't care if it was just a grenade. They threw a grenade and there was an explosion. All of us in here, you know, it's cloudy and all of a sudden a arrow lights up out of nowhere. Ain't nobody saying nothing. We just going that way, right?
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Yeah.
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Because it sent us a message. The symbol itself didn't say nothing and then say, come over here. It didn't say run over there. We just know. You ain't have to tell me. You ain't got to tell him. You know, we go, and it could be a cliff on the other side, right? And we have no clue. Unless someone is standing there saying, and don't say a word. Somebody of authority, or if you think now, you know, to stop. So that's the basic sense for the audience to think of the power of symbolism. But we can go into more methodical, we can go into more energetic, more things. Symbols is huge. For example, a lot of the big corporation knows this. We have seven chakras. And I encourage everyone to go look that up if they're not familiar. And it's all based on colors, all based from here here all the way down to the lower chakra, which is red, which is the basic part of our DNA structure. Desire, food, you know, survival. It's mostly everybody is operating in the red chakras. This is why you see food companies, these larger corporations, all embed red in it. You go to these restaurants, they're fighting for that.
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B
McDonald's, McDonald's.
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And these things are based up on that, right? And the colors means a lot, you know, and if you go into, let's say, for example, seven up, you know, I tell people, look deeper. The can, it's the green can. It's got a red dot, okay? That red dot represent your lower chakra chakra. They knew this. It's seven up. They're blocking the seven chakras because as long as they get you hooked there and you can't in the fizz, the sugars or whatever. And I'm a walking specimen of all of that. You get what I'm saying? So I know, for example, I live conditions based on some of these things. Now I'm working on changing that physical reality. Now that I look at it, it's not about dieting, even though you want to, but it's more of the consciousness telling the mind, I need you to change this construct of how people see you. I need you to alter this. And all of a sudden, certain desires just go away because the programming has been changed. Now, it still takes time because we're living in literal time, but, you know, because time really not supposed to exist the way we see it, it is happening. So somebody see me a year from now. They'll see different results. But back to the symbolism, when you think about that, these companies are Using. And for example, we can go with Starbucks.
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B
Yeah.
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I mean, I just did a show on that telling people, I used to go to Starbucks. I used to go in there and just sit and be like, you know, and didn't realize that symbol, not logo. That's a big difference. We'll discuss that real quick. That symbol is the siren symbol. And if people go back and look it up, it's not really a mermaid, but the Greek mythology and it goes back to African cultures too. But that siren is in the story of. It was. It would be out in the oceans and it was sing to the people on the boats. And they would see this beautiful woman out there and then they would in turn hop in and she will destroy them.
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B
Wow.
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Okay. Make them on the live, you know, for YouTube. So we. Starbucks in their story said that out in the piers where they were. I think that was Philadelphia or not Philadelphia, it may have been Philly. But one of the places that they originate, if people look it up, it was a shipping lanes that came in. Well, they claim the original people say that they were looking for a brand they wanted because of the ports. Portland ports or whatever. Yeah. Was the port. So somehow they were drawn to something. Drew them to a book in this library. It drew them to pick up and they saw that it was the siren.
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B
Wow.
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And it represent ocean and water. The CEO has been noted saying that the siren is a mythical creature. Creature that will draw you in by its aroma. Okay. Go to Starbucks, you're gonna smell coffee. Just. You just walk in. They. They. Yeah, they make coffee. But I guarantee if you look around, something blowing stuff around, right. You know, say they. They fix this thing.
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B
Yeah.
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But if you look at the siren and the story and then go back to Starbucks back, and I encourage everybody go look up the logo. In the 1970s, that siren, they had breasts, two breasts on their logo or symbol. And then the tail, a mermaid tail is like this. But the siren tail is split in half. And it's open. Now what are we seeing? Two breasts and open. And now you just visualizing this aroma. Right. It wasn't until they start blowing it up in the 80s that people were complaining that children can see what this really was. They kept it the same because they needed that magic to work. And they just zoomed in more and more. And we still see it, but it's there.
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Wow.
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And the CEO, him said, we want people more attracted to the aroma. And that's the magic behind that. So I used to go to Starbucks and just sit. And I never could Figure out really never got nothing done. You're relaxing. You're just. It's in a. You're chilling. Yeah. You may type on a few things. People just there now every. I don't even go there. I don't go there because the magic actually works. And if you find one of the old commercials, it comes on, it says our symbol, our muse. You can't resist it. They didn't call it our logo. It's in their commercials. They don't play it today. So you take that with all these companies. Pepsi, I found some documents on their logo. They. They used all kinds of sacred geometry. Everything in whoever the company. I have the company thing. Who designed it. They didn't go in and just have somebody to scribble this up. They designed it and they did everything else. But they had a place where it had 10 different degrees of angles. If they turned this symbol. And it would make our emotions feel each different if the smile was this way, this way, this. They know this stuff.
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B
Wow.
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So I tell a friend of mine, you know, I have a trademark called the Symbolizer. You know, I tell people, Denzel Washington is the Equalizer and he's a vigilante fight with knives and guns. You know, I'm the Symbolizer. I'm a vigilante of truth. So we're going to fight with truth and knowledge, and I'm going to teach people the true essence. So when they decide to do these logos, these times, you don't just somebody say, okay, I sell coffee and I want a cute bear so people know, no, you better go put some power and energy and not negative magic, but the power of ancient symbolism and sacred geometry. And have somebody who designed this for you design this to be and send out the energy to the people and things that you're trying to draw in a more positive way. And you're not just going to put a big bear on my thing with a coffee cup. And now people that, well, he drinks coffee. It's not going to work.
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I never realized how important symbolism was.
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It really is. I have my own hair. It's to protect. What I do is to circle the power. The blue is. Because blue is water. Water is the most sacred place where if you go back to ancient civilizations where all your secrets are mankind and human cannot access water, but fish can. Fish goes to all. And that's where most of the aliens live now, is in the water. In the water, yeah. So we can't go there. But although I'm a Pisces and all that too, and People will look at it on that surface level. But basically it has a lot of symbolic. And this protects me from other things because I'm digging up secret societies, I'm digging up occult information. It's what I do. Aliens, extraterrestrial, demonic stuff. You know, these things are happening, and that stuff can really affect you.
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B
Interesting. So aliens underwater, so that means they could breathe underwater then?
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A
I wouldn't say that. Okay. Yeah, I would say they can. And I would say that we need an apparatus to do so. But it's in the movies, you know, the movies. Hollywood, you know, has a way of showing us everything. Anyway, in Hollywood, the word holly comes from the holly tree. So it's. It's designed for. And it's a wand, the magic wand. That's what they made that out of, the holly tree. So Hollywood is symbolic of that. Stars. Why we call them movie stars, and I forget. I was just studying this, but stars are. Or lower level of a level. And so they are the puppets of the higher forces, and we call them stars. That's why they get their stars done on this thing. So it's a lot of symbolic things and some good and some bad. You know, you got the swastika. You know, we see Hitler with it. Well, he just made it famous as his brand. But yet go back into other ancient cultures or oriental cultures. It had all kind of positive meaning. They just twist, turned it. And now it became his brand. He drew the power from it to conquer people.
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B
That's interesting. Yeah, because it had power.
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A
It had power to do.
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B
Right. I'm convinced there's people in Hollywood that know the future because so many of those movies come true.
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A
Yeah, we. Yeah, the future. We know that. You know, the Vatican had a machine called a chronovisor. It was able to see the crucifixion. It was able to see the. There was something called a yellow book that in the alien cultures that the government found that they can actually see the future. Now, how is that possible? Well, it has to be possible because that means that we're in some type of construct, some type of construct that that information can be accessed and changed and, you know, and done. So Hollywood are talking to people. And just as much as there's bad entities and people and things, there's good ones that are trying to protect mankind as well. They always talk about the wars in heaven. There's spiritual wars that goes on all the time. And people see it, they deal with it. They just don't bring it into a surface level. So there's fight for us all the time. And just as much as. And so there's people hinting to us to know what's coming, what things are happening. And the best way to do it is to put it in entertainment. Now, two things happen on the government side is that they can come back and say, well, you just saw that in the movie, Sean. That ain't real. Go with Stargate. That was just as real as it can get. The government did cameos in that to protect what they were doing. Go back. The real Air Force were in those movies, monitoring and they played roles in it. Well, yeah. And they did that on purpose.
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B
That's crazy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I mean, the biggest one is the Matrix.
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A
The Matrix is the. Probably the messages of messages. Take that red pill or the blue pill or we all in this construct, and we're gonna see what you want to believe. And I think that's one of the things. And there was a lot of symbolism in that movie. So some people are gonna look at it for an entertainment value. And then some people are going to say, wait a minute. You know, like this new show called Supercell. That is the new norm. People are. And we started this thing where you. Everybody got your superpower. Well, that was adjusted long time ago to get people to understand you do possess. Somebody's trying to make you understand that, seek your power. Now you got these brand experts where you got to go find your power, you know? Yeah. Somehow they mist it a little bit. But yeah, we all have it. We. You have to go and awaken this.
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B
Yeah, I've seen mind readers, dude. I've seen some wild stuff.
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A
I'm surrounded by psychics on a daily basis with a D, you know? You know what I'm saying? And. And it's the hardest thing, you know, especially when you're getting involved with friends and other people that you meet because, you know, they go, well, hey, man, he's a godly man. Well, yeah, God exists. I'm not. Oh, yes. You know, I may not take on the stories that you have learned. And where I'm going with this is that we tend to not understand that there are demonic forces. There's all these different things. And so when I tell people I just don't see the world the same. And we have to understand that there is a higher force at work. There are higher forces below as above as below, same as. Well, it's all in these words. We're there, it's been there. We just don't take it right. And like I said, I'M surrounded by psychics. I'm surrounded by, you know, gifted people who will see and say and do things, you know. So I think it's one of the most weirdest stories.
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B
It is.
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A
Have you. And I had my encounter finally in Oregon and met someone personally from another place.
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B
Really? That's awesome, man. Did he know about you or how did that happen?
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A
I can make it real short. I went to go speak at the UFO conference called UFO Fest. It's in McMahonville, Oregon. Just so happened, I get this email through my agent and they were saying that they heard about Project BLACK that I started. Project BLACK is an acronym for the Black League of Alien Contact Knowledge. And it's my. What I'm trying to do is get more people in my community to talk about it. Just start the conversation. Because what I do believe is that we're moving to the stars. Elon Musk Jeff Bezos Economy is moving toward the stars in our community. If we're going to block our children and believe there's nothing else out there. Only if you're going to be an astronaut. And if they don't want to be a astronaut, industry is moving to space. They're going to look out that window. You don't have to be an astronaut to go to space. We know that now they're just taking people up there now, if you got the money. But eventually, like Elon Musk said, oh, only the rich people gonna get the space. Oh, no, no, they gonna get the workers there you go get a free ride. But if you get a free ride and you look out that window and you see something that your parents have conditioned you, that don't exist. Now we got another mental case here. We need to let them know when they look up there and they say, mom, dad, brother, cousin, is there something else out there? Hell yes, there is. And now the curiosity begins. And because of knowing this, then we're going to understand that when industry moves that way and they going to be employed 20 years, a lot of them are going to be working there. So Project BLACK was also saying, hey, we need to train the young ones, the new economy. Y'all need to train the people, the kids, that something is out there. So that now they build a new satellite system. They're into the space real estate. You know, real estate here? No, it's real estate on Mars. There's always an act out there that says whoever colonize it, get to own it. This is why the must and all these companies, they're going to get family or friends or Colleagues. And they're going to colonize a new planet on the land. And we're going to go all the way back to square one. Come to a place when we build some spaceships. But it's our younger generation who is being filtered out of this thing completely. And I'm just saying it from a community standpoint. And that could go with everybody.
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B
Right.
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A
But. Because control is control. But I really wish that we will see it a little different in our community. And that's what it is. And if I can get more people of our culture to come forward, especially influencers. Shaq said he seen alien. Really? Yeah. He told a story before.
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B
Wow.
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A
And he said the only reason he didn't say none before because he didn't want it to mess up his money. And it makes sense.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
Now he's there. If you look. If anybody searched the Internet, he's. He said it probably about two years ago, a year and a half ago in the video. He said he was standing there. It came in front of him and left.
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B
I gotta check that out.
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A
Yeah. So back to the organ story. So I went there to speak with 800 people listening to me. I'm probably the only person of color sitting there telling them our history of why we don't talk about it. And I gave. There's a song. Well, let me back up. One of the number one books back in the day was the Chariots of the Gods. I don't know if you're familiar with that, so anyone should look that up. It was about UFOs. It was called Chariots. Right. And that's how they sing. Because they weren't talking about planes back then. They just knew whatever it was wasn't moving here is moving there. One of our songs in our history is sitting there saying, Swing low Sweet chariot Come and take me home. Our ancestors was out in that freaking slave field looking up at them. UFOs saying they don't know what it is. They know it's a chariot. Swing low Come and take us home because heaven was home. Get us out of here. You get what I'm saying? I looked over to Jordan and what did I see? Angels coming from. More UFOs were coming out of water. We just said that. So they're seeing it coming up out this water. So how do we lose that? In transition translations that this doesn't exist in our culture. We look at the Dogon Tribe. The Dogon Tribe is the indigenous black culture tribe. But new star constellations today. And gave the coordinates to our scientists. A Few years ago, they're going, how did this tribe, who has no scientific stuff, they knew because they were visited. Now, if you go look at their artwork, you will see a. And I'll get back on the ufo.
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B
Yeah.
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Real quick. But let's just bring it all home. So. So when you go back and you look at their artwork, they're going to show one of their fish gods that it was what it was. And that fish God was named Dagon. Okay? So Dogon Dagon. The Vatican worships Dagon as well. That's why the Pope's miter looks like a fish head. But if you turn it to the side, it's a fish head. You see the eye on the side. They represent the fish God, which went into Christianity. Everybody running around with this little fish on the back thinking it's Jesus. It's all convoluted. But anyway, so I go to Oregon, and I sit there, and the whole time I'm thinking, I want some Chinese food. So that Saturday, I had to speak. A guy walked up to me, and he says, you know, I know why you're here. And I think it's crazy. And I was like, okay. And then he says, I'm with the shadow people and my Scooby Doo. Like, so immediately I pick up a phone. Let's take a selfie, bro. You know what I'm saying? Cause I gotta document this. Cause I know what that is, and most people wouldn't. So I'm like, okay, this a perfect place for y'all to be, because this is a UFO conference every year. People driving around looking at aliens, everybody wearing costumes. And the ones who don't need a costume is gonna blend in perfectly. Home is home. It's 20,000 people. We had a parade. And I'm in this thing. So I'm thinking, I want Chinese food the whole time. So when I finished speaking, I was still on the stage like this. And there was people. I was signing, you know, stuff or congratulating me. They didn't know. And, you know, I went more deep into our culture. Why it's a taboo. And we can do that in another show if you want. But the whole point was, there was a lady just standing there, and she walked up to me and she says, roderick, I want to take you to lunch. I have your Chinese food.
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B
Wow.
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A
And I'm like, huh? So. And then she said, also, my sister's husband is a black guy. He has a real good story. So two things happened. I'm hearing that, but also, I'm triggered. Of Curiosity. I'm black. I'm in this place. All right? So I'm going to hear some stories. So I was like, okay. So she said, can we go to lunch? Quite naturally. But I'm nervous a little bit because I'm like, Chinese food. And I'm at a place I don't, you know. So I tell the event organizer, hey, I'm about to go with this lady. And she looking at me like, well, why would you go if you're not really. But something just kept telling me, you need to go. So I go to. I tell her to meet me out back, you know, because I have a golf cart. They gave all us the five speakers. Ryan Graves was there, the Air Force person. So I was like, all right. So I get in her car and she says, and I'm thinking, this may be a bad idea. And she's a small lady, but I knew I got the brute force, you know, I got my ninja skills, you know what I'm saying? You know, I watched it, you know what I'm saying? I may not move as fast, you know, but if I get the right blow, I can protect myself, you know, speed and accuracy. She got me. So anyway, it wasn't that part, but, yeah, I'm still thinking. So I decide that. She says to me, she says, well, don't worry, nothing's gonna happen. Now, once again, I'm hearing this because I'm thinking this, but I ain't put two to two together. She started asking me all these questions, and she said, you gotta meet my cousin. I was like, okay. And so when we pull into this Chinese restaurant, I'm relieved because I'm thinking I am getting ready to go to lunch and meet with some people buffet style. I'm hungry because I'm in Man Vivieville, Oregon, and I ain't really know what to eat there. And we was there for a few days. So when we walk in, I pick up the menu. They come out with these four bags. And she said, well, let's go. And I was like, huh? I'm like. She said, I already got the order for her. I got your food. Like, how do you know what I want to eat? So we get in the car, she says, we're going to go up here to up into the mountain and talk to my cousin. So we driving and she started asking me all these questions. And by this time, I'm pulling out my phone and I'm taking pictures because it was a beautiful sight. But I'm documenting, really uploading to the cloud. And for who I'm with, just in case. Because I'm still kind of not feeling what's happening here because it was really strange, but I'm being coerced to go along with this thing. She finally, she says, do you want me to just pull over so you can get a better shot of me? And I'm like, this cannot be freaking happening. So we get up into this winding thing and she said, the coast is right down there. And I said, oh, right, right, you're right around the hill. And we in this beautiful mountaintop, Beautiful trees were like 30, 60ft tall. But the leaves started up there, which, because they had to reach the sun. But when we got the car, there's this, this humming sound. And it was a frequency. And I was like, this is weird. But I was feeling really, just really ambience. But you can hear it. You can. In the trees. And there were some wind chimes too. So it was just like. And I said in my phone I had a video. And I was like, this is weird, y'all. And this lady walks out, this frail looking lady. And she said, this is my cousin. So we tend. We was getting ready to walk in. They had this house, looked like a cabin, but it's like a million dollar thing sitting on the mountain. So I walk over to the edge. Cause I'm looking for extra. She says, because Bob is here too. And so I'm thinking, Bob is the brother, the black dude I'm finna meet. And so I'm okay, it's stereotype. I'm feeling comfortable, you know what I'm saying? I'm feeling the brother of the hood. Okay, but still, it's a bad ones, right? So I look over this balcony and I'm thinking, oh my God, we on this mountaintop. And I'm like, if I jump, dude, you go big as you are, you're gonna have a fall. Yeah, and it's gonna be terrible. She says to me, oh, don't worry, there's lions and bears down there. So I'm like cougars. Not lions and bears, but like mountain lions and whatever. So it was like someone's deterring me. Don't do it. So they open this door, Bob comes out. He's about six, four old white gentlemen. And I walk in and it's all these angelic symbols all over this place. Now I'm into symbolism. Oh, I knew I just walked into something. I knew I walked into something. And I'm reading these things and I'm like this. But it's a lot of Protection stuff. I'm like, what the heck is happening here? So we go into this kitchen and they sit down. They're standing there with the food. There are three of them. And I'm standing there, and it's like we're all sitting there, and I said, we can sit. And they sit down in unison. So the lady start talking to me. She said, you know, are you. What's going on with you being here? Because a cousin had already told her, and I told her the difficulties in more detail of what I was having with Project Black. The opposition, the people in the community, higher ups that did not want me to explore this. And there's a reason why. Because I've been on tv. I'm in nine different TV shows, Gaia. I was featured on Ancient Aliens, the History Channel and Amazon, all this. So I'm into this thing. I'm certified UFO investigator. So she's sitting there and they start. She's, you know, going over things, and I'm sitting here still thinking in my mind, this is something. And I was thinking something. And the lady says, yes. And I like, these fuckers are reading my freaking mind. This lady, too. So she gets to talking and she's really, like, emotionally distraught. She start telling about humans and just how we are not. And I'm like, this is something really personal going on here, right? And she's talking and she. And she says to me, you're doing a good job. You're doing some stuff. And I'm like, okay. So we're going on and on and on. And finally she start telling me about, be careful. It's not just aliens, it's demonic stuff. And we're in. The government is already trying to put that out. If you go to congressional hearings, they're now saying it's demons. Which is why we have a problem in the government, because. Because a lot of the religious leaders, they're not doing what they need to do for the country. They're not signing those bills for the defense of United States of America. They got religious reasons why they won't do it, because they don't see aliens. This. They see them as demons. So anyway, she's sitting there, she's telling me the story. She's telling me everything. And I'm sitting there going, okay. Finally, I just said, I'm going to test them. They read my mind. I don't feel to test it, because now I'm bold, Now I'm in it. If I ain't coming back, this is it. I'm gonna go out on With a bank. And she says, there's no need to do that, and smile. I'm like, what? I was feeling a testimony. She just said, there's no need to do it. She read my mind. She knew I was preparing to do it. So by this time, I gave in. This is real. So we talking, and I started going like, well, why am I having this experience? And finally I stopped the conversation and I said, where are you from? She smiled and started telling me Pleiadian, these different star systems. And she just started telling me all this stuff and how she goes back and forth in this state or whatever. And so now I'm really intrigued. And then I said, why am I here? She says, I need to tell you about your soul contract. And I go, whoa. Now, I won't get into that details, because it's personal. And I have already been told by two different psychics that this is my last time here. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Because we reincarnate. People don't know that this is why. You know, we just do. And that's a whole nother conversation. And so she said, this is your last time here. You have done. You're doing it. And it makes sense to me because I have two children and I have no grandkids. I have no legacy leaving behind, and I'm doing my greatest work right now. And it's like, you're getting ready to be erased unless you do something that you are remembered. Right? And I'm working toward that. Right. I'm writing my books, you know, because that's the way you can live forever. That's the way my. Whoever comes in my lineage, if new, you know, will know about my thoughts. They're going to know because I wrote them into books. And so I was like, okay, I hear you. So she tells me about my soul contracts, and. And by this time, she started talking about remote viewing. And I've done that, and I'm not good at it yet, but I'm getting there. And so I said, well, can you teach me? Because she said, we're here to help you. And I said, okay. And then she says, no, I don't want to teach you. Well, Bob, who's sitting over here, looks at her and says, yes, you can teach him. As though she's given permission. I'm like. And he reached over for some food, and all his skin was kind of like, just not owned. Right? Right. And I'm like, okay. So by this time, I'm still now getting really nervous, too, and I wanted to pick up my phone and see what time it is. Because the whole time I had to speak, we were doing a panel, which was an hour later. And I kept telling her that I need to get back. People are expecting me. This is when we was on this trip, you know, I'm like, trying to just get these clues. Well, before I can pick up the phone, she says, we need to get him back.
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B
Wow.
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A
I'm like, golly. So we talking, and I asked her, can we communicate? She says, I don't really. I use the phone, but not much. I don't really know. But I got this phone. But anyway, you can talk with her. And here's the number. This is call me anytime. So we up here, and I'm talking, and she gives me some more information. And I'm just shocked. I'm blown at this point, right? And I'm like, nah. And I was reluctant to tell the story, but since I'm not giving the details, whatever.
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B
Yeah. But anyway, that's incredible, man.
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A
We drive back and I go in. Now I'm at a UFO conference, all these other speakers. So I'm telling them, hey, y'all. Can't believe what happened to me. And I'm feeling kind of like the people that call me now. Because the first thing they say is, you're not going to believe this, right? And I go, yes, I am. But now I'm like, you're now challenged with this yourself. Seeing a UFO and having that experience is two different scenarios. And the ultimate thing, the climax of it all, was when I told those people and I showed them the pictures in the mountains where I was. And they looked at me and said, you couldn't have been there. I said, yeah, you couldn't have been there. I said, well, I just got back Roderick. That's three and a half hours away.
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B
Whoa.
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A
I said, no, I just been gone 30, 40 minutes. We had some lunch, and they brought me back. I told her I needed to be back by the hour. And the lady said, no, I know this place up there, this area. Cause I told her about the coast. She says that three and a half hours away. What? And I was like, whoa. And it was the most surreal moment. And I talked to him on the phone twice since then, you know. And it's not to verify that I know things are real. It verifies that you're in the right spot. You're doing what you're supposed to do. Now, how do I do it? Greater. The complex part is, how do I. And I wish that there's people of influence in our community that have seen. Now I get, I have 800 land, you know I get called all the time, lawyers, doctors, that's you know both sides no matter what race they are. But when I do find out that they're African American I'll ask them were you willing to come forward. And they're just more relieved that they have talked to somebody. They don't want to put their career on the line and if we can get that there was people in the military, we were on the same boats that everybody the whistleblowers. Now it's military for crying out loud. We were on the same everywhere bases and all. There are people in our community seen and know about these things and we only have this pie of information and if we can get everybody to come forward especially in our community we can now turn the needle of curiosity. They don't have to believe it. Yeah just give them enough information they can be curious. I know that was a long story.
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B
But go no, that was incredible dude. Well now there's figures like you and Dr. Greer that are at the forefront.
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A
Of things so yeah, yeah. And Dr. Greer is I think he's one of the best out there. There's a lot of two sided fences on this. Oh he's working or oh yeah, he charges all this money for these events and or this was fake. I've gotten to know him, I met him several occasions. Great guy. He's the real deal. He has all the information. He has that file, if anything happens it gets released. But he's done press conference. He's given out the information where all the underground bases and all of these things are and military stuff and the deception that the government and people disinformation campaigns against him is enormous. He's too big of a figure that they're going to just take out. But if you discredit him as not being that smart and intelligent or he's crazy or he don't know what he's talking about that's easier for the masses to accept, you know. But yet there's people in our community know he's the real deal and there's people in our community who think otherwise. For me personally, I met him, I believe that he is plugged in. He's had those experiences. He knows what he's talking about. And if he was to say Roderick, that's one of those aliens right there and I'm going to say welcome to Earth.
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B
I mean his speech at Billy's award show he was crying. This is his life's mission.
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A
It's emotional, it's very serious because there's another threat to that side. And this is where there's a disconnect with people who understand. Because we got things flying around in our skies that we not know. It's not that we don't know what it is. And it's not China, it's not all these companies, countries, if anything had that power. But it can go to 0 to 60 in 2 seconds or entire weapon on that. Or transmedium technology. We have nothing that can come from space, air and water. We know what a jet look like. You see a jet going the other way, what do you see? Flames and whatever. Is that going to go into the water and come up and go to space? Absolutely not. Something does and something is. And it's flying. Now I will tell the audience right now everything in our skies are not UFOs and aliens and all of that. However, all the aliens fly UFOs.
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B
I love that. Do you think it's hydrogen technology or some sort of energy?
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A
No, this is going to be. Not hydrogen. That's too primitive. It's going to be time, space. They can manipulate space and reality. It's dimensional, it's, it's all of those things. It's bigger than what we can think of. We know scientists are now trying to deal with it because things are making sense or, or it's coming up and. But it's, it's not just hydrogen that exists. And that's probably a primitive thing because if you go back to. We're actually not smarter as humans today. We're actually dumber than we was back then.
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B
Wow.
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A
Because of, because we're revering all this technology to be, you know, authority. Not the truth. The truth is our ancestors spoke telepathically. Go back, we got pyramids with rocks that we don't have. Nothing on the planet to move a rock that size and cut it into dead ball accuracy and build these things that are still withstanding. We don't have it. They had aqueducts, they had. They can do a coliseum with. We might have this room built for sound. They can speak in a thing of 80,000 people and they gonna hear it over there. They knew all of these things back in the day and we're going all the way back before that. And so we have gotten dumber because the system has been designed for us not to tap into that.
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B
Yeah. I wonder what the average IQ back.
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A
Then was probably way higher and probably not just high. It was just a normal interaction of the cosmos. And everything else. When you think of zodiacs and you think of the. The sign. Because I'm doing special now symbolism with churches. I've been visiting a lot of churches here in Dallas. The older ones is 100 years old. All of them have architect with archways and zodiac windows, which means Socrates or Plato or Socrates, I think was a student of Plato or vice versa. But the zodiac was the gateway to heaven in Christianity today. Zodiac thing is taboo in my community. But go to these old churches. It's in every doorway of the church. So it's the portal, the archways. You don't see that in my community. Churches, they're not building them like that. They don't want that information.
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B
That's interesting. Yeah. I wonder what caused that. Because now astrology is so taboo, right, With Christians.
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A
Well, because it's the truth. Once again, truth is the true consciousness. Authority want to block it out. If they begin to give you the access to all that power, then now they lose the power. Because the greatest thing is information. Long as somebody know what you don't know, they can control you.
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B
Right.
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A
Period. I don't care what level.
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B
Yeah. Nlp.
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A
Yeah, there you go. So even on the playground, they just know something you don't know when you're kids, you know, and we, we tend to see people who. We appear to have knowledge as authority over everything anyway. It's just the way society.
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B
Absolutely. Roderick, it's been a blast, man. What are you working on next? Where people find you?
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A
They can find me. I'm building a YouTube but my podcast is Every But Roderick Martin just. Just YouTube Roderick Martin. You're going to see me talk about the Reptilians, you're going to see me talk about secret societies, aliens. I just go deeper. And then I have a new book that's going to be coming out, the Unthinkable Truth, which would be Unspeakable Truth. So that'll be coming out soon. Billy Carson's the publisher.
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B
Nice.
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A
We'll be doing that.
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B
Perfect. We'll link everything below. Thanks for coming on, man.
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A
Hey, appreciate it.
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B
Thanks for watching, guys. Check out his links below and I'll see you next time, all right?