How A 65-Year-Old Bench Pressed 555 Pounds... | John Jubilee | DSH #2027

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Episode: How A 65-Year-Old Bench Pressed 555 Pounds... | John Jubilee | DSH #2027

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: John Jubilee
Date: June 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this gripping and energetic conversation, host Sean Kelly sits down with John Jubilee, the creator of the “88-Day Intracellular Hydration Protocol,” to discuss fundamental truths and misconceptions about health, hydration, muscle building, hormone optimization, and mental health. John shares his remarkable personal journey—from overcoming debilitating health issues and transforming his body and strength in his 60s, to helping thousands reverse "irreversible" conditions. The episode is packed with sharp criticism of the medical system, practical science, real-life testimonials, and bold claims about what’s possible with the right approach to hydration.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Truth About Hydration and Health

• John’s Protocol:
  • “88-day intracellular hydration protocol … all about getting hydration inside of a cell.” (01:14)
  • Drinking water is not enough; if it doesn’t get inside the cell, you’re just running to the bathroom—“Free exercise. Run into the bathroom … it’s not getting inside the cell.” (01:24)
  • John measured his hydration after 10 years of drinking a gallon/day and found he was still 20 pounds low—“after 10 years of drinking a gallon of water a day. 20 pounds low of hydration? How's that even possible?” (01:46)
  • The cell’s membrane becomes less porous with age/stress, preventing water from entering ("cells are hard like a glass marble"). (01:39, 03:14)
  • Measurable benefit: Technology now allows everyone to track intracellular hydration (02:57).

2. Hydration, Muscle, and Strength Gains

• Intracellular hydration is the foundation for lean muscle and strength.

  • “Muscle’s made out of… 75% water. So it’s three times more important how much hydration we have in our cells… than protein or even our exercise regimen.” (04:30)
  • “The strength of a muscle comes from the amount of intracellular hydration that’s inside that muscle." (05:28)

• Bodybuilders & Dangers of Dehydration:

  • Many professional bodybuilders are severely dehydrated to appear more shredded during competitions, leading to high mortality: “50 to 70 competitive bodybuilders drop dead every year.” (06:24–06:34)

• Las Vegas/Desert Hydration:

  • Hydration inside your cells is protective—even in extreme climates; extracellular hydration (just drinking more) isn’t enough. (06:57–07:25)

3. Extraordinary Feats Attributed To Hydration Protocol

• Bench Press World Record:

  • John, at nearly 65, bench pressed 555 lbs for 14 reps:
    • "That’s not even your max, or is that one set?” – “No, that’s 14 times. I don’t know what my max is… never done a one-rep max.” (07:49–07:52)
    • “Julius Maddox… strongest man in the world… said… 'you just did triple your body weight, 14 reps. That’s amazing.'” (11:12–11:45)
    • John attributes his exponential strength gain to hydration: “That’s what intracellular hydration does to a human muscle… creates… super power, like the power of a hydrogen bomb inside your muscle.” (11:46)

• No Steroids, No Peptides:

  • John makes a strong point he takes no performance-enhancing drugs: “I don’t take testosterone, I don’t take peptides, no HGH, nothing. Just intracellular hydration.” (12:28–12:33)

4. Natural Hormone Optimization

• Hormones and Hydration:
  • “All hormone optimization is tied directly to: am I dehydrated or am I hydrated?” (14:08)
  • John claims clients increased testosterone by 500 points naturally, without medication: “Their testosterone… went up 500 points. All natural.” (14:40)
  • He promises Sean a 50% strength gain and 10 pounds of muscle in 88 days with minimal exercise: “You’ll gain ten pounds of solid muscle… 20 minutes, four days a week.” (20:05–20:17)

5. Transformative Case Studies

• 92-Year-Old Rowing Champion:
  • A client at 92 gained over 10 pounds of solid muscle, started rowing, and won both state and national championships—“At 92 years old… he wins. He’s all ticked off… he missed the world record by 12 rows.” (21:14–22:39)
• Medical Study Sabotaged:
  • John was kicked out of a hormone study because his protocol reversed every patient’s hormone imbalance, contradicting the pharmaceutical narrative:
    • “130 patients… 130 success stories. Everybody did amazing. And then I got excused from the study…” because he “skewed the result.” (23:44–25:29)

6. Systemic Critique: The Health Industry

• “The medical system is not for us. They're really not… they want you to be a client for life.” (23:44, 44:23)
• “For your generation… they want you guys… not strong, not fit, not powerful… want you to be a zombie.” (25:29–26:43)

7. Hydration’s Role in Mental Health

• The brain is 80% water; lose just 1%, and you’re “mentally disabled”: “If you lose 1%, you are mentally disabled… at 10%, you could lose half your neurotransmitters…” (27:19)
• Real-life claim: reversals of severe mental health diagnoses (including permanent psychiatric disability) through intracellular hydration.
  • “I took a young man… permanently disabled in the state of Tennessee… 88 days later, he gets a job… has a wife and four kids.” (44:22–45:13)
• Psychiatric medication is rarely discontinued: “I said, how many people have you seen get off medication? He said, none.” (00:00–00:43, repeated at 44:06–44:22)

8. Autoimmune and Digestive Disease Reversal

• John claims over decades, thousands with autoimmune or digestive issues reversed their condition simply via cellular hydration.
  • “99% of the time… You have dehydration in your digestive system… your body cannot break down the gluten or the dairy…” (34:45–35:44)

9. The Simplicity and Sustainability of His Protocol

• Minimal dietary restrictions: just avoid sugar and white flour. Eat real food, even indulging in burgers and pizza, as long as cellular hydration is optimal.
  • “I eat In N Out Burger… Chick-fil-A… double sausage, double pepperoni pizza… I eat real food.” (34:02–34:13)
• Intracellular hydration improves not just strength and physique, but resilience, mental acuity, and immune function.

10. Empowerment and Final Thoughts for Gen Z

• The episode closes with John’s message of hope and agency for young people:
  • “Nothing's going to change until you make a change… it's up to you guys, you know, to step up. And the number one thing… if you don't have your health, you got nothing.” (46:47–47:18)
  • “Steve Jobs… did not live to walk his children down the aisle… the most valuable thing… is our health.” (47:20–47:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• John on hydration and bodybuilding deaths:
  “50 to 70 competitive bodybuilders drop dead every year.” (06:34)
• On protocol efficacy:
  “In 88 days, you'll gain ten pounds of solid muscle.” (20:05)
• On dietary dogma:
  “Nobody is gluten intolerant. Nobody is lactose intolerant.” (34:46)
• On modern medical systems:
  “They want you to be a zombie. … everything that's in this world right now is to stop, especially you as a young man. ... we have to rise up like warriors and have strategy so we fulfill our destiny.” (25:29–26:43)
• On mental health and hydration:
  “If you lose 1% [brain water], you are mentally disabled.” (27:19)
• On industry motivations:
  “They never want them to get off [medication]. ... we got a client for life.” (00:43, echoed at 44:23)
• On reversing 'irreversible' conditions:
  “Everything is reversible. I have never seen anything … that is not reversible.” (41:19–41:40)
• On personal responsibility:
  “Nothing’s going to change until you make a change.” (46:47)
• On health vs. wealth:
  “The most valuable thing any of us have… it’s our health.” (47:57)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Hydration Protocol & John’s Story: 01:07–04:49
• Muscle & Strength—The Role of Hydration: 04:30–06:49
• Bodybuilding Deaths: 06:24–06:49
• Bench Press World Record Story: 07:36–11:45
• No Drugs—Only Hydration: 12:28–13:17
• Hormones & Intracellular Hydration: 13:26–14:45
• Testosterone Gains & Protocol Challenge: 14:54–15:39
• 92-Year-Old Rowing Champion: 21:14–22:39
• Medical Study & System Critique: 23:44–25:29
• Hydration & Brain Function: 27:09–28:20
• Autoimmune/Digestive Reversal Claims: 34:46–35:44
• Mental Health & Hydration: 44:06–45:26
• Empowerment for Young People: 46:09–47:18
• Final Reflections: 47:20–47:56

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Summary Conclusion

This episode delivers a passionate call to rethink the basics of health—putting hydration (specifically at the cellular level) at the foundation. John Jubilee disrupts conventional wisdom about aging, muscle, mental health, and even chronic and autoimmune conditions, positioning his 88-day protocol as a transformative health strategy. The episode is peppered with bold, memorable stories meant to empower listeners to take control of their well-being, question medical orthodoxy, and recognize the agency that comes from optimizing health at the most fundamental biological level.

Transcript

[John]

I'm sitting beside a doctor on an airplane, and it was a psychiatrist. And I said, how many people have you seen reversed? He said, none. I said, what? I said, In 30 years, you've never seen anyone get on medication and get off? He said, no. I thought, this can't be true. I went into the Vanderbilt psychiatric ward and I asked for the head of the Vanderbilt psychiatric board. And I said, I want to ask you a question. I said, how long you been here? 22 years. I go, how many people have you seen get off medication? He said, none. Okay. Now I'm alarmed because first of all, I realize again, the medical system, they never want them to get off. It's like, no, let's just keep them on. Once we put them on, we got a client for life. A lot of bodybuilders are dehydrated. Every bodybuilder, if you measure them on the day of a competition, they're probably 30 pounds low of their hydration, which is why 50 to 70 competitive bodybuilders drop dead every year. When you take the hydration out of your organs, guess what? You die.

[Sean]

Okay, guys, we got John on the show. Today we're gonna talk hydration health, mental health, all sorts of fun topics. Thanks for coming, man.

[John]

Hey, I'm so excited to be here. Sean.

[Sean]

Yeah. You got a crazy story, so I can't wait to dive into it, man. What's your protocol called for those that don't know it?

[John]

Yeah. So this is a 88 day intracellular hydration protocol. So it's all about getting hydration inside of a cell.

[Sean]

Right.

[John]

So we've all heard, drink more water. Right. Everybody's drinking more water. You know what that creates? Free exercise. Run into the bathroom. Everybody's just peeing a lot more because it's not getting inside the cell.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

So this protocol is all about getting it inside the cell.

[Sean]

And that's the key, Right, because everyone's out here trying to drink a gallon a day, especially in Vegas. Yeah. But you need to retain it. It's like taking supplements.

[John]

Well, you do. You know what? And that's my story, is I did that for 10 years, drank a gallon of water every day for 10 years. And then when I went to go measure my hydration, which at the time cost $11,000 for the machine to measure your hydration. Yeah. Well, you know, it's kind of ironic. It's the number one health measurement that we all need to know how hydrated am I, but yet no doctor ever measures it. They take your blood pressure they take your A1C cholesterol, all that. They never measure your hydration. So anyway, it cost me 11,000 bucks. I measure my hydration after 10 years of drinking a gallon of water a day. 20 pounds low. 20 pounds low of hydration? How's that even possible? And it's because of this. That's what allowed me to create this protocol, was our cells are hard like this table, you know, they're hard like a glass marble. And we drink a gallon, it just goes right off and right into the toilet. So we got to get it inside the cell, got to get that cell to open up, be porous like a sponge.

[Sean]

Right, and you figured that out?

[John]

I figured it out, yeah.

[Sean]

That's important. I need to measure mine then. I'm curious where I'm at. Is that cheaper than 11,000 these days?

[John]

Well. Well, thankfully it is. Yeah. Thankfully, the technology, you know, has improved, and we actually FedEx all of our clients a device to measure it. Everyone needs to know that number, though.

[Sean]

Yeah, I'm gonna do. We're gonna talk after this about that.

[John]

All right.

[Sean]

So you found out you're £20 under. What did you do from there?

[John]

Yeah. Well, so from there, you know, then I realized, well, wait a minute. If I'm 20 pounds low and I'm drinking a gallon a day, the whole world's probably 10 or 20 pounds low. Right. I'm thinking, you gotta be kidding me. How's this even possible? And that's when I learned that, you know, the cell has two membranes around it, you know, and through oxidative stress and just time and, you know, just living life, they become like glass marbles. The cells are like a glass marble. So I realized, well, you know, our cells don't start that way. You know, they're very pliable and porous. When we're little kids or babies, you know, it's like, well, how do you get your cell back to that? And so that's what. That was my whole impetus to drive me to create a protocol to transform at the cellular level. And so that's when I did a bunch of research, created 88day. That's one of the cellular cycles of a human body. And I created this protocol which allows the cell to open like a sponge and the hydration to get in. So very measurable. And I just watched mine keep going up. Now, interestingly, when you think of 20 pounds, you'd think, well, did your weight go up 20 pounds? Did not. Didn't go up one pound because I was gaining hydration. But at the same time my body was transforming.

[Sean]

Wow.

[John]

I lost all my visceral fat. I lost all my subcutaneous fat. And guess what muscle's made out of, Sean? 75% water. Water. 75%. So it's three times more important how much hydration we have in our cells if we want our lean muscle than it is our protein or even our exercise regimen.

[Sean]

Wow. So if you just fix this, you can look more muscular?

[John]

Well, not just look more muscular. You can be more muscular and you could be way stronger.

[Sean]

Holy crap. Just from fixing your water?

[John]

Yeah.

[Sean]

That's crazy. I never connected the dots on that because everyone's always like, take creatine, take protein powder, take amino acids, take electrolytes.

[John]

Yeah. Well, the big connector for me was the fact that first of all, just think of, you know, if you're building a house, right? You got to have a concrete for your foundation.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

And so, but. But if you don't have any concrete, you know, you know, you're not going to build a foundation. And same way for muscle.

[Sean]

So.

[John]

So the foundation stone of all lean muscle and not just size, but for strength. You know, the strength of a muscle comes from the amount of intracellular hydration that's inside that muscle.

[Sean]

So I'm sure all the best bodybuilders have figured this out too, then.

[John]

Well, interestingly, no.

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[John]

No. Interestingly, no. So I work with a lot of professional bodybuilders and, you know, super champion, you know, bodybuilders. I'm in Orange County, California. It's kind of bodybuilding capital. You know, all those guys there. A lot of bodybuilders are dehydrated. And the reason they're dehydrated is if they take all their hydration, you know, out of their body. So they build as much muscle as they can, but then they take out the hydration so that their muscle shows up more. So pretty much every bodybuilder, if you measured them on the day of a competition, you know, they're, you know, probably 30 pounds low.

[Sean]

Geez.

[John]

Of their hydration. Which is why 50 to 70 competitive bodybuilders drop dead.

[Sean]

Oh, my God.

[John]

Every year.

[Sean]

Every year.

[John]

Every year.

[Sean]

I didn't know that.

[John]

50 to 70 of the best looking people on the planet, Right. Those guys look amazing. But when you take the hydration out of your organs, guess what? You. You die. You know, your organ stops functioning, your liver fails, your heart fails, your kidneys fail.

[Sean]

But you got me drinking water.

[John]

He's like, I'll have a drink right now.

[Sean]

Well, out here in the, in the desert, I think it's easy to get even more dehydrated, right?

[John]

Yeah, no, it's definitely easier in the desert. However, once you get the hydration inside your cells, think about it. No, it's inside, so it's. It's not outside the cell. So when you're in the desert, you have extracellular hydration. You keep drinking water, it just keeps going out.

[Sean]

Right.

[John]

And it keeps radiating. Right. Because it's so hot here. And man, it is hotter.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[John]

So the heat radiates, you lose your hydration, but if it's inside your cell, you don't lose it.

[Sean]

Like, that makes sense.

[John]

You keep it 24 7.

[Sean]

Yeah, that makes sense because there's people running 100 mile races in the desert, like David Goggins.

[John]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So they must have it inside their cell.

[John]

Inside the cell, yeah, or else they

[Sean]

wouldn't be able to run.

[John]

No, that's nuts.

[Sean]

Going back to lifting real quick, though, you benched a lot of weight. I. I got to ask you about this. Over £500. Is that true?

[John]

555.

[Sean]

Holy crap.

[John]

14 times.

[Sean]

That's 14 times.

[John]

14 times.

[Sean]

So that's not even your max, or is that one set?

[John]

No, that's 14 times. I don't know what my max is because I have no ego. So. So I've never done a one rep max in my life.

[Sean]

You could probably hit over 600, though.

[John]

I don't think it's safe to do that because I'm not trying to impress anybody, you know, other than my wife, you know.

[Sean]

Well, 555 is pretty impressive, but.

[John]

But that just sort of happened over time and again because of this intracellular hydration. So I just kept getting more hydrated. I kept getting just a little bit stronger, you know, as time went on. And then one day, some guys at the gym were just like, john, good night, man. That's like a world record. And then I did come home to my wife. It's like, hey, baby.

[Sean]

No, that might be for your age.

[John]

No, it's actually for any age.

[Sean]

555.

[John]

Yeah. No, well, 541. It goes by weight class for world record. So at the time, 180 pounds. I'll just say 180. But for 200 pounds and under, the world record is 5. 541. Wow. For one rep.

[Sean]

So you beat it.

[John]

And so. So I thought, well, 555 is a way cooler number, you know?

[Sean]

Get this, man, is Guinness and Guinness Book of World Records, man. Get them over to your gym, document it. I'm trying to get a podcast world record.

[John]

Hey, let's go.

[Sean]

We could do our same day.

[John]

Hey, hey, you could do it. Well, I will tell you what I did though was I did not want to hurt my shoulders. You know, once you get over about 400, £400 on a bar, you know, some of the people out there that are listening, lifters will know this. You actually get a wobble in the bar.

[Sean]

So much weight. Yeah, yeah, my cousin tore his pack. Yeah, I think he was benching like 200, 300 or something.

[John]

Yeah, well, and again, so, so when they, when I went to go do the world record, I said, look, I'm not willing to hurt myself. And they told me do it on a hammer strength because it's still a free weight machine because it doesn't give you any leverage. So I said, well, give me a hammer strength. Let me see if I could do it on a hammer strength, you know,

[Sean]

so that makes sense.

[John]

So, but that way you, you have a little more stabilization in your shoulders.

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[John]

up But I whipped out 14 reps. And Julius Maddox was there.

[Sean]

Well done.

[John]

You know, Julius. Oh, no, Julius is. He is the strongest man in the world. He benches 782.

[Sean]

Holy crap.

[John]

Now he's 440 pounds.

[Sean]

Still insane.

[John]

But Julius, he said something to me afterwards which kind of gave me a revelation, you know, he said, john, he said, that's like one of the greatest feats of strength I've ever seen in my life. I said, Julius, you do 782, man. It's 555. He goes, John, I'm 440 pound, right? He goes, I'm not even doing double my body weight one rep. He goes, you just did triple your body weight. 14 reps. He goes, that's amazing.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

But this was when the science of intracellular hydration is a direct tie to this. Because just think of the power of if a fire hose is laying flat, there's no water in. Has no power. Right? But you hook that thing up to a fire hydrant and you put the water through it. No, a fire hose could, you know, push a human down the street. But that's what intracellular hydration does to a human muscle. No, it just creates, like this super power, like the power of a hydrogen bomb inside your muscle. And that's why my strength just kept going up. A little more. A little more.

[Sean]

A little more, A little more. Well done, man. That is insane. Because there's guys taking, like, steroids and all that, and you're outlifting them.

[John]

Oh, yeah. Let me just quickly say, I don't take testosterone. I don't take peptides.

[Sean]

Wow.

[John]

No hgh Nothing. No intracellular hydration. Because people ask me all the time, like, how are you doing that? And I am 65 years old, by the way.

[Sean]

Crazy. Yeah. People are taking peptides, man. It's the number one most searched term in the world right now.

[John]

Yeah, well, it is. And I totally get it. You know, I mean, people are desperate, right?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

And peptide is an easy. It's an easy, instantaneous, you know, result.

[Sean]

Yep.

[John]

But I'll tell you something fascinating. Guess what intercellular hydration does all by itself. It activates your body's natural peptides. So everybody already has all these peptides. They're taken outside in. They already have inside their body.

[Sean]

Right.

[John]

So if they would just activate their intercellular hydration, they wouldn't have to take one peptide outside in.

[Sean]

I mean, you're living proof of that.

[John]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

Yeah, everybody. And same thing with GLP1, by the way. The body already has GLP1. You just have to activate it through intercellular hydration. So people really don't ever have to take one GLP one. They don't have to take one peptide. And even on testosterone, it's the same thing. When your cells are optimized, it creates a balance and allows your body to communicate. So you're an amazing communicator, right, on your podcasting. Well, think about it. That's really all. The whole cellular system is like a giant communication network.

[Sean]

Right.

[John]

But if you. If you smash the building when we're doing this podcast, we can't communicate very well because the building is smashed.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

And that's what happens to cells. When cells lose their hydration, it's like they're smashed. Now they can't talk to each other. When they can't talk to each other, they don't produce the testosterone. Or for girls, progesterone or estrogen. They're supposed to. So all hormone optimization is tied directly to am I dehydrated or am I hydrated? And so we've had young men, we've had old men, you know, their testosterone. They did this cellular health protocol. Their Testosterone went up 500 points.

[Sean]

Holy crap.

[John]

All natural. All natural. They never took a shot. They never took a pill.

[Sean]

I've been taking so many supplements trying to get mine up.

[John]

You know, this is. This is the easiest way at any age.

[Sean]

Yeah, I'm gonna try this 88 days. So that's basically three months.

[John]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I gotta dedicate towards this. Yeah, I'm in.

[John]

Let's go.

[Sean]

I'm in. Yeah, I've been taking. Because I'm at like 520. I got it up to like 575 with supplements, but that's not like that high, you know what I mean? For my age.

[John]

Yeah. So this would be fun. You know, we could circle back in 88 days.

[Sean]

Yeah, we will. We'll do a part two once I start. We'll do three months. We'll do another pod and see where I'm at.

[John]

No, that'd be super cool.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

And I'll just say publicly. Yeah. I'd be shocked if you don't go up at least 200 points.

[Sean]

Damn, that's a lot. At least that can. That is noticeable when you're up 100, 200 points.

[John]

Yeah, it is.

[Sean]

You know what I mean?

[John]

Yeah. Well, and I'll make another. I'll make another bold statement, and your strength will go up 50%.

[Sean]

No way.

[John]

In 88 days.

[Sean]

I need that. I'm trying to be Dunking the basketball even stronger than I am right now.

[John]

Come on, mighty man.

[Sean]

Yeah, I, I could take some strength right now, you know. That's huge. As a man, obviously I'm excited.

[John]

Yeah, yeah. Do you know I've even had professional athletes. So I've got NFL football players, NBA, Major League baseball. You know, these guys spend a million dollars a year, you know, on their whole health regimen, but they hear about this stuff, right? And it's usually the world record. You know, when they hear about that world record and then they, you know, they all think, I'm 40, 45 years old. And they find out that guy's 65. He did that.

[Sean]

You don't look 65.

[John]

They're like, Holy cow.

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[Sean]

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[John]

Oh, yeah, I just did it. Yeah, I was just before I turned 64.

[Sean]

Holy crap. What's your testosterone level at?

[John]

Yeah, you know what? I don't even check mine, okay? I don't even check it.

[Sean]

You don't care about it?

[John]

I don't care.

[Sean]

I mean, you could just tell you're healthy just looking on you.

[John]

Yeah, you know what I really don't like? I don't know what my weight is. I don't know what my body is.

[Sean]

You don't know what your weight is?

[John]

No, I don't know what my body fat is. I don't. You know, I just know for myself. It's like, hey, if I feel great, if I feel great, that's all I care about. And it just so happens when people do this protocol, you know, I tell them, look, you're gonna feel great now. You are gonna have some side effects. Yeah, you know, you are gonna look great. You know you're gonna gain lean. By the way, again, I'll make another claim right here in 88 days. You'll gain ten pounds of solid muscle.

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[John]

Way.

[Sean]

That's three pounds a month.

[John]

Ten pounds of solid muscle.

[Sean]

Do I have to lift every day, though?

[John]

No, I'm gonna give you. You're gonna have to lift 20 days, 20 minutes, four days a week.

[Sean]

That's not bad at all.

[John]

20 minutes. And by the way, you don't, you don't have to even go to the gym. I could give you two exercises to do at home.

[Sean]

Body workout.

[John]

Yeah. So you could do it at home or you can go to the gym either way. But you'll gain 10 pounds of solid muscle.

[Sean]

That's amazing. I've always not hated the gym, but kind of like didn't look forward to it because you have to lift for an hour. And I never really liked that, honestly.

[John]

Well, well, good. Well, you're going to love this then. And again, it's a little bit humorous. Yeah, yeah. The first time I worked with an NFL player and I told him what we're going to do, he said, well, what do you do? Because it was so simple. I said, no, we're just going to do these two exercises two days a week. So just four days. And he's like, well, what do you do? I go, what do you think I do? What I'm teaching you to do.

[Sean]

Those are the best teachers though. As simple as it sounds, when you're learning from someone, you want to learn from someone that's actually doing what they're teaching.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, but this really works. And it works for your whole life. And obviously the, the result speaks for itself. I can't wait.

[Sean]

I mean, you got some crazy testimonials. We'll talk about a couple of them. 92 year old client, talk about that one.

[John]

Yeah, yeah. So I, I love this. So, you know, I'll give, I'll give the wife her credit too. So this couple comes up to me, Shawn there, and, and they said, hey, we'd love to do your protocol. We heard such great things about it. And I'm kind of looking at them, you know, I go, how old are you guys? They said, we're 92. They said, well, can we do it? And I said, well, I'll make a deal with you. I said, you guys have to promise not to die on me, so that'd be bad for my marketing. They said, hey, we'll stay alive as long as we can. I said, okay, cool. So they start this protocol. Well, this guy, I got him doing the two exercises. Well, then in between he starts doing this rowing machine, you know, because for whatever reason, he thought that was cool. So next thing you know, he. This guy gains more than 10 pounds of solid muscle at 92 years old. So now he's got this muscle. He's doing his rowing machine. So he enters the Tennessee 70 and over rowing championship. He wins at 92 years old. So now he qualifies to go to Boston, Massachusetts, for the National Rowing Championship. He wins.

[Sean]

No way.

[John]

He wins. He's 92, 70 and over for the whole nation. And he's all ticked off. I'm like, joe, why are you ticked off? I said, your wife already told me that you won the thing. He goes, john, I missed the world record by 12 rows.

[Sean]

Oh, insane.

[John]

What a 92.

[Sean]

What a crazy story. I. 92. A lot of people can't even walk at that age. This guy's rowing.

[John]

No, he's. No, he's rowing at a world record pace for 70 and over.

[Sean]

That is insane. Wow. So you've outlifted a NFL player. This guy probably lifts all day, every day, and you're outlifting him.

[John]

Oh, you know what, it's funny. I mean. Well, I won't put it up there because I don't want to, but. No, I look like a Oompa Loompa, you know? I mean.

[Sean]

I mean, those guys are like 300, 400 rounds.

[John]

No, no, he's like 340.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah.

[John]

No, he's like 340. I just look like a little Oompa Loompa standing there.

[Sean]

That's insane, man. I mean, you're doing something. If you're doing that with an NFL player, you're outlifting him. You know, that's what they do for a living. Yeah, you're just a regular dude.

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

And you're twice his age. Three times his age. I'm sure that woke him up. So there was a medical study you were working on, and something happened where they stopped doing it. Could you explain that story?

[John]

Yeah, so. So this was kind of my wake up call, Sean, that unfortunately, you know, the medical system is not for us. You know, they're not for us. They're really not, but I never wanted to believe that. I'm a very positive, very optimistic, you know, person. And. But, man, this was a wake up call for me. So I had a bunch of people in a hormone study, and I put them all on my protocol, you know, 88 days intercellular hydration. And so whether it's men, you know, men, their testosterone all went up totally naturally with no hrt, no supplements, nothing. Theirs went up Women that had hormone issues, whether they had, you know, menstrual cycle issues or just all kinds of female issues that they had at 130 patients had 130 success stories.

[Sean]

That's a lot of patients.

[John]

Everybody did amazing. And then I got excused from the study. And so a doctor calls me the next day. He said, john, I'm sure you're wondering why you're excused from the study. I said, wondering. I said, did you see my results? I said, I have 130 perfect scenarios. I said, every person optimized everybody's hormones, completely, balanced all their issues completely. He goes, well, that's why they kicked you out. He goes, john, this study was to prove no. If you're a man, you got to have testosterone. If you're a woman, you got to have hormone replacement therapy. I said, no, they're trying to prove that's what you have to have. No, you skewed the result.

[Sean]

And wow. So you were too good.

[John]

You got the left foot of fellowship. Dang.

[Sean]

So your results were too good. They were like, no, we can't have this.

[John]

Well, look, at the end of the day, again, this was my wake up call, you know, and look, especially for your generation, Sean, I mean it, you know, if I can just speak like from a, just a truth heart, like I'm a pure scientist. I don't care what the truth is. I just want to know what it is and then share that with people. And for your generation, you know, I mean, they want you guys, they don't want you strong, they don't want you fit, they don't want you powerful. They don't want you to be independent thinkers. I mean, the whole system is so rigged against Gen Z. It really is. I mean, it's like you guys have like a bulldozer coming at you. Of everything that's in this world right now is to stop. Especially you as a young man. For young men. They don't want you to be powerful. They don't want you to be innovative. They don't want you to be successful. They want you to be a zombie. They want you to be compliant. And you guys have to realize, hey, no, we're in a war here. No, the system is truly against us. And we have to rise up like warriors and we have to have strategy so that we don't get bulldozed over and we fulfill our destiny.

[Sean]

There's a lot we're fighting against. So financially we can't afford houses. It's like five times. What, when you were growing up, when you Were my age average. House we can't afford. Public education is terrible and we're actually getting dumber. IQ is dropping. Test scores are getting lower. For the first time in history, all the distraction with technology, you know what I mean? Health is getting worse. Everything's getting worse for our generation.

[John]

Well, and let me tie in this. Intercellular hydration. Do you know that your brain, your brain is 80% water?

[Sean]

Wow.

[John]

80%. If you lose one. 1%. 1%. You guys can go research this on AI. If you lose 1%, you are mentally disabled. 1%. At 10%, you could lose half your neurotransmitters and brain synapses.

[Sean]

Wow.

[John]

That's how impactful just hydration is to a human brain. So the number one thing that your generation can do, hey, let's make sure we have hydration in our cells, in our brain. So our brain is fully optimized. So we get to use every aspect of all of our God given intelligence, our God given drive. But think about this. If they had one master plan, it would be to dehydrate you guys. If we can dehydrate these guys, they will be walking zombies. They're only going to have half their brain going on and they won't even know what hit them. They won't know that we just bulldozed.

[Sean]

It does seem like that could be a plan. With these AI data centers, the tap water being infiltrated with whatever's in there, microplastics.

[John]

Everything in our daily life is basically designed to dehydrate us. So just imagine this is for me. Look, this was 1997 when I was £20 low. Yeah. So I was £20 low even all the way back then, drinking a gallon a day. Wow. What is going on in our world that we could just be living normal? You know, this is before all the food additives and everything that they put in.

[Sean]

Jeez, you could argue that people are

[John]

30 pounds underweight now inside their cells. Yeah. So I want to quickly just share with people that it's not about your weight, it's this measurement of intracellular hydration. And so again now, and by the way, I just want to encourage people that look, when you gain intracellular hydration, you gain lean muscle, you lose visceral and subcutaneous fat. You're stronger, you're more brain powerful. There's not one negative thing that can happen with that. And as far as sickness goes, it super boosts your immune system. So again, it's like picture the fire hose. Your immune system when it's active so it's like, just picture like a bunch of, you know, Doberman pinscher dogs. Like if you had 10 guard dogs, all Doberman pinschers and somebody opens your

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With how things have changed.

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[John]

They just go, well, that's what happens with cellular hydration and the immune system. No, as soon as one bad germ comes in, it's like, no. All those healthy cells, they go crazy like Dobermans and they just knock it out.

[Sean]

Interesting.

[John]

But when we're dehydrated, it's like they're not attacking. Let the burglar just come on.

[Sean]

Because there are a lot of autoimmune diseases with my generation too. Have you seen that?

[John]

Yes, yes. In fact, there's a young man you know your age, brilliant guy, lives in Los Angeles. He's a great digital creator and looks amazing. Tall, lean, you know, sharp guy, just like you. But he had these horrible autoimmune disease and so he came and said, hey, you gotta help me, man. He said, I feel like I'm dying of these autoimmune Disorders put him through this protocol. 88 days, completely 180. His health.

[Sean]

Wow.

[John]

Completely 180'd his health.

[Sean]

That's insane.

[John]

His parents lived, like, in South Dakota, really? And they, they literally called me up and said, you know, crying, like, oh, my gosh, you changed our signs?

[Sean]

Because he probably had it his whole life.

[John]

Yeah. They said, no, we, you know, we've never been able to fix this. We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. They said, you do this 88 day protocol? No, his life has changed forever. Wow.

[Sean]

How much of the protocol is diet related? Do you switch up people's diets?

[John]

Not much. Not much. I'm not a big believer in diets.

[Sean]

Really?

[John]

No.

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[John]

You know, first of all, it starts with die.

[Sean]

That's not the best start.

[John]

Well, here's the reason why is diets are not sustainable. Because every one of us is born with these things in our mouth called taste buds, right? And food tastes good, and we want to eat stuff that tastes good. And so the only two things I tell people while they're getting healthy is cut out your sugar, cut out your white flour.

[Sean]

White flour?

[John]

Yeah, just white flour, but not flour.

[Sean]

Is that bread or white flour?

[John]

That's only white bread. White bread, yeah. So listen, I tease people. The keto diet became a big thing in my generation. You know what the keto diet was? The Atkins diet. It's the same diet, so it's never changed. By the way, I tell people Jesus hates that diet because he said, give us this day our daily bread.

[Sean]

Jesus wasn't Paleo.

[John]

He said, give us this day our daily bread. He was not into that keto. He was not into that keto.

[Sean]

He ate fish.

[John]

Well, he did. He ate fish. And when the prodigal son came home, they killed the fatted calf. So I know he believed in eating beef.

[Sean]

Oh, okay.

[John]

You know, so he definitely believed in beef. Definitely believed in fish. You know, and. And again, I'm. I just want to encourage people this. That look, no, there is no magic diet. The key is when we have intercellular hydration, we're basically creating like a river of living water running through our body. So I can tell you, I eat real food. Like, I live in Southern California. We have In N Out Burger, man. That's really good.

[Sean]

So good. You know, we have it here too.

[John]

Okay, good. So. So I eat In N Out Burger.

[Sean]

Really?

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean]

So I eat seed oils.

[John]

I eat chick fil A. No, I. I eat every week, at least once a week. I have a double sausage, double pepperoni pizza. Yeah, no, I eat real food.

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[John]

And. And people walk up to me all the time and go, dude, I saw you on tv. I know who you are. What are you doing eating that? And I say, I built my house. So I teach the principle. Build your house. I mean, Sean, if you build a house right, how many times you have to build it?

[Sean]

Once.

[John]

One time.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

Then you maintain it. So once we build it, now, we're just in maintenance phase. Mow the grass, change a few light bulbs. And so when we really get healthy at the cellular level. No. Your autoimmune disorder is gone. If you have food allergies, they'll reverse.

[Sean]

No way.

[John]

Nobody is gluten intolerant. Nobody. This really. This is my true opinion. No one is lactose intolerant. Nobody is gluten intolerant. And I would challenge any. Anybody.

[Sean]

So even if you have the gene, break the mthfr.

[John]

Absolutely. Absolutely. So I'm telling you, in my experience of 29 years of helping tens of thousands of people, and thousands of them came and said, no, I'm gluten intolerant. I'm lactose intolerant. I said, well, let's see. In 88 days, if you're gluten intolerant or lactose intolerant. No. 99% of the time. And now my experience is 100%, by the way. Yeah, but I'll say 99, just to be safe. There's an off. But 99% of the time, all that is. No. You have dehydration inside your digestive system, so your body is not optimized. Your body cannot break down the gluten or the dairy just because it is malfunctioning because of dehydration.

[Sean]

That's definitely me. I've always had gut issues.

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[John]

Until now.

[Sean]

Until now. Yeah. No, I've literally tried everything. I've tried kombucha, tried prebiotics, probiotics, eating more vegetables, but nothing's really done the trick, you know?

[John]

So. So, Sean, you're just like, this amazing guy. You know, Jesse's his name, and. And he's like, you guys, like, six. Six?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[John]

You know, super lean. But guess what? He had all these digestive issues that were just destroying his whole life until now, you know, Then he did this protocol. He has not had an issue since. So I'm excited for you.

[Sean]

No, I need that, because whenever I travel, it's an issue. Yeah, it's a big issue. I need to fix it. We're gonna get started on this thing. We'll include A link. Right. We'll have a little discount code for people that want to learn from you and learn this protocol.

[John]

Yeah, no, absolutely. Cool.

[Sean]

So check that, guys. For sure. We'll include that in the video. Right now, a big trend is electrolytes. I know I brought it up earlier, but now they're finding out there's, like, heavy metals and stuff in it. What's your take on electrolytes? Do you even take those?

[John]

Well, no. Again, I'll just say this. This is. You know, I have all these sayings, you know, realize I've been helping people 29 years now. It's been a long time. And I will just. Just share a little bit of my backstory is. Yeah, yeah, because I really. I started out in banking, you know, so I was a banker for many years and, you know, had a great career in that, but I had my health issues. So I was bone on bone in my knees. You know, I had, you know, gut issues. I had high blood pressure, you know, brain fog. You know, I just had. I had the banker belly for sure. My waist was 10 inches bigger than it is today, so. But a suit will cover it really well. But I tried everything. For 10 years, I was taking $1,000 of supplements a month. Thousand a month. And you know what I call that? Expensive pee. Because I was just peeing those supplements out because I didn't realize, you know, those rock hard. You know, I was hitting my rock hard marble cells, and I'm just peeing out a thousand dollars a month in supplements just right down the toilet. I'm drinking my gallon of water a day. I'm doing everything they said to do. I tried 10 different programs. I mean, you name it. You know, back then, Zach and I tried, you know, Weight Watchers, and, you know, I tried all this kind of stuff and every supplement, none of that stuff worked. None of it was sustainable. Well, then when I discovered this and did this, no, this really worked. And so imagine all these people saw me and they thought, oh, my gosh. And it wasn't because I lost weight, because I looked healthier. So they're all coming up to me going, john, what in the world? What happened to you? What happened to you? So I started helping people. Well, for 11 years, Sean, 11 years, I helped several thousand people. Just like on the side, I still wasn't making, but I helped several thousand people. And every person that came to me would ask me, can you help me with an autoimmune disorder? Yeah, can you help me with irritable bowel syndrome? Can you help me with diverticulitis? Can you help me with my testosterone? No matter what they asked me, I had one answer. For 11 years, I don't know. Let's see. That's all I said. Because I'm a truth teller. Never going to give someone false hope. So for 11 years, I don't know. Let's see. But after 11 years, Shawn, I realized every single person reversed.

[Sean]

Holy crap.

[John]

Every single one.

[Sean]

Just from water hydration?

[John]

Just from intracellular hydration, getting it inside the cell. So then I changed my answer. And I would say I 100% even

[Sean]

like crazy ones like Lyme and Lyme disease, Crohn's disease.

[John]

No. You name it. No. You could go on my website and click testimonials and drop down. I don't pretend to be a tech guy, but I have six terabytes of testimonials.

[Sean]

Jeez, that's a lot. I know how much that is. That's like, I think, a few hundred podcast episodes.

[John]

Yeah. So anyway, it's tens of thousands of clients, but any disease you could name, we've probably reversed it a thousand times, you know, no matter what it is. Including all the irreversible ones.

[Sean]

I don't believe in irreversible anymore.

[John]

No, I hate that word. Good. Well, good.

[Sean]

Because I know doctors use it and they diagnose you and they say irreversible, but that's half the bottle right there when you're believing it.

[John]

Well, interesting. We're sitting in Las Vegas. So I was speaking, you know, at a convention here. A doctor walks up to me, a famous doctor here from Las Vegas. He comes up to me and he said, I'm so perplexed listening to you talk. He said, you're so cavalier with all of these audacious claims.

[Sean]

Classic.

[John]

That you're making here. He said, I personally have irreversible kidney failure. He said, the top six doctors in America all have confirmed totally irreversible. I can just manage how fast it declines. He said, but you probably would tell me you could reverse it. And I said, well, well, Dr. Taylor, I said, we're standing in Las Vegas. So how about this? I go, I'll bet you a million dollars I can reverse it. And he just sits there. He goes, just because you said it like that. He goes, I'm going to do your protocol. He said, but I know you have a money back guarantee. You're going to have to refund my money. I said, well, we'll see. I said, I wouldn't bet on that. Well, Guess what? You can see his testimony on the front of my website.

[Sean]

No way.

[John]

Wow.

[Sean]

That's a legendary story.

[John]

He reversed. No, he reversed. Everything is reversible. I have never seen anything and when I say anything, no, I mean anything that is not reversible. Wow. I've seen people with multiple sclerosis in a wheelchair. Now I have videos of them running a 5k.

[Sean]

Holy crap.

[John]

I got a guy that was a quadriplegic. I got video of him riding a three wheel bike and his lives out here neighborhood. I mean it is so joyful to get to give people real truth and real hope of something that has a 29 year track record and has helped tens of thousands of other people in just 88 days.

[Sean]

Man, 88 days, three months you got to devote to this. Mental health issues too.

[John]

Oh, no. I'm so glad you brought this one up. So again, all I have is stories of real people. But I'll first of all just say, you know, help thousands of people. Listen, as many as 20% of everyone is on a, is on a psychotic medication.

[Sean]

I think for my generation it's even higher than that. Okay, I think 40, but yeah, go ahead.

[John]

Okay, so, so whatever. So think of this. So 20, you know, two to four out of 10 people, they're taking a medication and why. So there's eight areas of your brain. Think of it like eight bedrooms in a house. So you got or eight rooms in the whole house. You got eight rooms in there. Well, if you lose your cellular hydration, you're losing your connectivity. The cells can't talk to the size of the brain. And that's really stressful because it's like trying to drive your car with two tires, right? I mean the car will, you could still get down the road, but there's going to be sparks flying, the concrete's getting torn up. That's a mental health issue. No, now you only have a few parts of your brain that the lights are even on. It creates anxiety, it creates depression, it creates stress, it creates mental disorders. Because why? The real root cause of that is one thing. It's cellular dehydration. And again, I'm just going to tell you a real story. So when I first heard about mental disorders and I started, and I'm sitting beside a doctor on an airplane and it was a psychiatrist and I said, well, how many people have you seen reverse? He said, none. I said, What? This guy's 30 years. I said, in 30 years you've never seen anyone get on medication and get off. Wow. He said, No, I thought, this can't be true. So I was flying to Nashville, Tennessee. I went into the Vanderbilt psychiatric ward, and I asked for the head of the Vanderbilt psychiatric ward, and I said, I want to ask you a question. I said, how many people. How long you been here? He said, 22 years. 22. I go, how many people have you seen get off medication? He said, none. Okay. Now I'm alarmed because first of all, I realize again, the medical system, they never want them to get off. Yeah, they don't want them to get off.

[Sean]

They make money off it.

[John]

No, it's like, no, let's just keep them on once we put them on. No, we got a client for life here. We got a client for life here. So I took a young man. I took a young man, you know, maybe a year younger than you, and I said, I want to, you know, I want somebody that, you know, when they put them in, you know, they have to stay mandatory 14 days or whatever. So I take a young man the day he gets out, and I take him to my house and I put him on my protocol, and he was permanently disabled. Was mentally permanently disabled in the state of Tennessee. Took him to my house, put him on this 88 day protocol. Guess what? 88 days later, he gets a job as an assistant manager at Smoothie King. Today that young man has a wife and four kids.

[Sean]

Wow.

[John]

And nobody would ever know.

[Sean]

That's insane.

[John]

He was a disciple.

[Sean]

He was permanently disabled.

[John]

He was permanently disabled. And now he's not disabled. And now he's living a full life, and he's married with four kids and has an amazing life.

[Sean]

Dude, that one hits deep because my dad was in a psych ward for a bit. It's a dark place.

[John]

Yeah, it is a dark place, but they want to take your generation to a dark place. They want to get them on those meds early and make them think they can never get off those meds.

[Sean]

Hundred percent. They were trying to put me on meds in elementary school for my adhd. Isn't that crazy?

[John]

No, that is crazy.

[Sean]

And that's common, I heard these days.

[John]

No, it's so sad.

[Sean]

Yeah, they're putting high schoolers on antidepressants, Xanax and all that stuff. It's terrible. Man, I can't wait to start this, though. You got some amazing stories. We'll include the testimonials in the video as well.

[John]

Awesome.

[Sean]

Anything else you want to close off with here?

[John]

Well, just again, for your generation, you know, if I can, because I have eight kids.

[Sean]

Well, Done.

[John]

I got six. Six boys and two girls.

[Sean]

Beautiful.

[John]

I got, I got five a little older than Gen Z. I think that's millennial, right? You know, so I've got twin 11 year olds and a 14 year old still at home. But if I could just speak from a father's heart, it'd be to encourage your generation, you know, that, hey, there, there really is hope. But, but you have to have an action step like you, you guys can't sit back and just wait. Nothing's going to change until you make a change.

[Sean]

Agreed.

[John]

Nothing's going to be different until you guys do something different. And so this is, this is your moment, you know? You know, only you guys can make this country great again. Really, I mean, it really is. It's on your generation. You know, eventually those baby boomers are, they're all going to die off, you know, baby boomers will be gone. The greatest generation, you know, that, which is the one before baby boomers, they're all going to be gone, you know. No, it's up to you guys, you know, to step up. And the number one thing, look, is if you don't have your health, you got nothing.

[Sean]

Got nothing. No amount of money.

[John]

No, no, look, Steve Jobs, you know, Steve Jobs did not live to see his company become a trillion dollar company. Steve Jobs did not live to walk his children down the aisle or be at their weddings or, you know, had the coolest cars, had the coolest houses, had the coolest company, you know, maybe ever. Didn't even live to see it because he took his eye off the ball. You know, people spend money on their car because they want to look cool on their house, because they want to impress, you know, coolest clothes, they want to dress to impress. But the most valuable thing any of us have at the end of the day, it's our health.

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[John]

It's one of the only priceless things all day.

[Sean]

Well, John, this was great, guys. Stay tuned for part two. I'm going to look like a new man. I think next time we see each other.

[John]

Let's go.

[Sean]

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