How AI is Redefining Wellness and Personal Health | Harry Massey DSH #1410

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: "How AI is Redefining Wellness and Personal Health"

Guest: Harry Massey (Founder, Energy for Life)
Host: Sean Kelly
Date: June 20, 2025
Episode Number: DSH #1410

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Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Harry Massey, founder of Energy for Life, to explore how artificial intelligence, bioenergetics, and non-traditional approaches are revolutionizing personal health and wellness. The discussion dives deep into Harry’s personal health challenges, the science and technology behind his company’s devices and “infoceuticals,” the profound role emotions play in healing, the promise (and limits) of AI in individualized wellness, and what the future holds for proactive, energy-based health solutions. Expect frank dialogue, scientific anecdotes, and Harry’s vision for a new era of accessible, non-toxic, and AI-powered healthcare.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Harry’s Personal Health Journey and Genesis of Energy for Life

• Chronic Illness as Catalyst:
  • Harry recounts suffering three major health incidents at age 21, culminating in chronic fatigue syndrome and becoming bedridden for seven years.
    • “I ended up in a wheelchair… then I basically ended up completely bedbound with, yeah, full on chronic fatigue syndrome.” (01:33–02:26)
  • Frustration with conventional approaches led him to search for root causes and real solutions, beyond nutrition and supplements:
    • “I tried every diet… coffee enemas, homeopathy, acupuncture… but unfortunately, I wasn’t getting my energy back.” (03:03–03:44)

2. Understanding Bioenergetics & Energy Medicine

• Energy Control System vs. Chemistry Control System:

  • Harry explains how traditional biology focuses on chemical pathways; bioenergetics examines the body's energy and information fields as control mechanisms for health.
    • “Instead of studying where sickness comes from… why not study where energy was coming from?” (04:00–04:22)
  • Acupuncture as energy messaging—Harry describes new, needle-free methods:
    • “You don’t have to do it through acupuncture. You can give the body that same message, direct information to your cells.” (07:45, 08:10)

• The My Health Device:

  • Practical explanation of a device that analyzes the body’s energy field through voice and delivers corrective energy signals (via PEMF and information fields).
    • “You can directly put the right message… straight into your body’s field or energy control system.” (08:54)

3. Demonstration and Insights from Sean’s Personal Experience

• Device Live Test:
  • Harry shares results from using the My Health device on Sean, showing stress markers, adrenal fatigue, and emotional imprints like "liver anger."
    • "When we scanned Sean… it showed he had adrenal fatigue, low energy in his brain cavity, chest cavity. Also, liver anger." (09:35)
  • Sean feels better immediately—though Harry notes deeper structural changes take time:
    • “You basically feel better that day… but physical changes come over the next couple of months.” (10:18)

4. AI, Voice Biomarkers, and the Future of Healthcare

• Self-Healing, Always-On Technology:
  • Harry’s long-term vision is for wearables that continuously monitor and autocorrect the body’s energy field using AI-refined bio-signatures.
    • “It autocorrects you… worked out algorithms that will read your pulse in real time and… autocorrect based on your reading.” (11:44–12:05)
  • Integration of vocal biomarkers, wearable data, and lab tests for holistic, dynamic healing:
    • “Now we can take those vocal biomarkers, combine it with wearable data, soon you can upload all your blood lab results… so it can continually refine.” (19:06)

5. Scientific Backing and Breakthroughs

• Research and Efficacy:
  • Harry cites studies at UC San Diego:
    • His “infoceuticals,” when applied to tissue, reduced viral penetration by 40%—better than intensive meditation protocols.
      • “He rang me up… ‘Oh, that actually works.’” (12:12–13:28)
    • Studies show increased mitochondrial density by 50% and improved cell energy efficiency by 25%. (13:28–14:22)
  • Cost-effective alternative to traditional supplements and stem cell treatments:
    • “You can spend thousands and thousands… this is $35 a bottle.” (14:26–14:53)

6. Importance of Emotions and Mindset in Healing

• Negativity, Stress, and Disease:
  • Negative emotions (stress, anger, anxiety) drain cell voltage and hinder healing, more so than toxins or EMF.
    • “Actually the most significant thing that burns up your energy is stress and negative emotions… Yale University… found that all the smokers who scored highly with anger… actually got lung cancer [and died].” (15:46–16:41)
  • Positive emotions enhance energy, resilience, and healing:
    • “If you’re in a positive state, all… cells are able to excrete toxins and use energy more efficiently.” (16:55)
  • The My Health wearable provides emotional insights and energetic corrections for balance.
    • “It looks at those negative emotions, gives you awareness… puts in a biogetic signature to help you be in a more positive state.” (17:43)

7. AI and Personalized Medicine

• Refinement Through Real-Time Data:
  • AI enables real-time, personalized adjustments by analyzing multiple biometrics, voice samples, and responses.
    • “It knows the biogenic signatures it’s giving back… can continually refine.” (19:06)

8. Addressing Technology and Environmental Stressors

• EMF & Body Resilience:
  • Devices don’t “block” harmful EMF but strengthen and correct body fields for resilience.
    • “Instead of trying to protect… what we do is actually strengthen the damage to your body fields.” (20:00)
  • Harry observes Sean’s environment and notes liver sensitivity to EMF. (20:49–21:06)

9. Societal Implications & Philosophy of Field-Based Healthcare

• Moving Beyond Biochemistry:
  • Harry critiques the pharmaceutical industry’s chemical-centric focus—citing historical influence and the risks of regular supplement use (e.g., turmeric lowering testosterone).
    • “Even supplements… every single thing you put in your body, always has a second or third order effect.” (22:17–23:16)
  • Field-based interventions (messaging the energetic control system) are presented as safer, more cost-effective, and customizable.

10. Transformative Client Stories & The Nocebo Effect

• Rapid Healing and Emotional Blocks:
  • Reports of fast psoriasis clearing and animal wound healing—more effective with animals due to absence of nocebo (negative expectation).
    • “Just three weeks of using infoceuticals, it all cleared.” (24:31)
    • “Animals… don’t believe it, don’t not believe it… it’s more effective.” (25:15, 25:49)
  • Human skepticism can hinder outcomes: “You can counter results really well in any therapy.” (25:44–26:28)

11. Harry’s Spinal Recovery and Device Origins

• Harry fully recovered from a spinal fracture with energetic interventions, avoiding surgery; the pain and healing experience inspired development of new technology.
  • “The great thing with this device… it’ll remind your nervous system that there’s a problem… trigger a healing response directly in that area.” (26:33–27:21)

12. What’s Next: AI Fusion, Wearables, and Med Beds

• Wearables Launch & Med Bed Project:
  • Next-gen wearable health device with AI launching soon; vision for “personalized med beds” administering energy, light, meditations informed by real-time biometrics.
    • “The wearable is coming out… mid May. Actually, there’s a new version of the device coming out too.” (21:18)
    • “Take the voice scan and wearable data… walk up to a med bed… put in the right wavelengths and information... plus a personalized meditation.” (27:45–28:25)

13. Holistic Energy Practices and Everyday Health

• Nature Rejuvenation:
  • Walking outside, swimming in the ocean, sunlight—all explained in bioenergetic terms as recharging the body with “free electrons.”
    • “The sea is amazing… you’re bathing in this sea of free electrons.” (30:08–30:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Healing and Energy:
  • “If I didn’t have any energy, why not study where energy was coming from instead of studying where sickness comes from?” — Harry (04:00)
• On the Nocebo Effect:
  • “You can counter results really well in any therapy. Because it’s just like that lung cancer study I said... a dog or animal, they don’t believe it, they don’t not believe it.” — Harry (25:44–25:49)
• On Technological Vision:
  • “The long-term vision… to create a wearable where it’s just always reading you 24/7 and always correcting you…” — Harry (11:03)
• On Emotional Health:
  • “Negative emotions burn up your energy more than toxins, EMF, or viruses.” — Harry (16:00)
• On Supplements:
  • “If you take turmeric every single day, it’ll male’s testosterone by 32%... Just take it when you’re inflamed.” — Harry (23:08)
• On AI + Energy Healing:
  • “Now we can take those vocal biomarkers, wearable data, and blood lab results… [the system] can continually refine it over time.” — Harry (19:06)
• On Field-Based Medicine:
  • “If you’re just giving a message without a chemical, you can correct that part of your body’s control system without toxicity and side effects.” — Harry (23:16)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |----------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:33–02:26 | Harry’s health crises and becoming bedbound | | 03:03–03:44 | Frustrations with traditional medicine and remedies | | 04:00–04:35 | Shift to bioenergetics—studying energy, not just illness | | 08:54–09:24 | How the My Health device works; replacing acupuncture | | 09:35–10:55 | Sean’s scan results, adrenal fatigue, emotional markers | | 12:05–14:22 | University research: infoceuticals’ efficacy and benefits | | 15:04–16:41 | Stress, emotions, and their impact on health | | 19:06–19:56 | How AI is integrated into the wearable and bioenergetics | | 20:00–21:06 | EMF, environmental factors, and bodily resilience | | 22:17–23:16 | Dangers of chronic supplement use; bioenergetic advantages | | 24:12–25:49 | Client stories, animal healing, and the power of belief | | 26:33–27:32 | Harry’s spinal healing and inspiration for new technologies | | 27:45–28:25 | The future: AI-powered med beds | | 30:02–30:28 | Nature, energy, and why the sea rejuvenates us |

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Closing Thoughts

Harry Massey and Sean Kelly’s conversation is both a scientific tour-de-force and a deeply personal journey, blending ancient ideas and visionary technology. From dodging the limits of conventional medicine to using AI to “autocorrect” the body’s energy field, this episode offers a compelling vision of how wellness may look in years to come—non-invasive, emotionally intelligent, personalized, and rooted in both hard science and holistic philosophy.

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Try it yourself:
Harry offers listeners a chance to experience a voice scan at e4l.com/voice (31:17).

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking insights on:

• Bioenergetics & energy medicine
• The intersection of AI and personal health
• Emotional health’s biological impact
• The future of truly personalized, accessible wellness

Transcript

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[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

It's a 5,000 year old system that they worked out through trial and error. But the great thing is it's actually, it's actually just a message. And you don't have to do it through acupuncture, you can give the body that same message, direct information to your cells.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

It's much more efficient without the needle. That was always my fear. The needle, man.

All right, guys, we got Harry here today, founder of Energy for Life. Thanks for joining me today, man.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Thanks, Sean. It's great to be here.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, we did a fun little experiment yesterday, but could you first explain what Energy for Life is?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, Energy for Life as a company, it's there to restore humanity's energy for life. And specializes in bioenergetics, which is the study of energy living systems.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And you got into this because of your own personal health journey, right?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. When I was 21, I had these three accidents. And the first I was ice climbing, fell, ended up fracturing my spine, although I didn't know I fractured my spine. Then I went out to the Alps six months later, got a fever that turned out to be Epstein Bar, which is known as like chronic fatigue syndrome. And then on my third trip, after I'd already been fired from a job in London, I went back out to the Alps, was so exhausted, got stuck in a tent for seven days just eating dried bananas, drove myself back home, ended up enrolling in an M. In an mba, which was pretty stupid. And then by the end of that mva, I ended up in a. In a wheelchair. Jeez. And yeah, then I basically ended up completely bedbound with, yeah, full, full on chronic fatigue syndrome.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And you were super young, right?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, I was 21 at the time.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. So to be bedridden, not able to move at 21, that must have been scary.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

It was pretty rough actually. Yeah, because I'd been. Been to university, having a really hedonistic, active, amazing life. All my friends had gone on to take all these great jobs and then, yeah, I was basically the black sheep of the family with, yeah, no prospects and no hope at the time. Crazy.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And that lasted for years?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. Last was. Yeah, for seven years.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Geez, Edward. And for seven years?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And you're just looking for, like, a solution this whole time or.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, the first few years I went down the traditional doctor route, and in England, that's under the National Health Service, got absolutely nowhere. I mean, they didn't know what was wrong with me. Ended up with, at the time, like, the various functional medicine doctors, they put me on all these different IVs. I had like the lowest magnesium levels recorded in England at the time. And, yeah, after around four, four or five years, I was like, well, this whole nutritional approach wasn't honestly getting me anywhere. So I tried every diet from, like, Gerson Therapy, coffee enemas, home homeopathy, acupuncture, all these different things. But, yeah, unfortunately, I wasn't getting my energy back.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And that's when you discovered bioenergetics?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. I was introduced to this professor from Australia and he's the first person to set up an acupuncture college in Australia that became part of Melbourne University. And he'd been mapping out the energy and information of the human body way, way beyond the traditional Chinese medicine system. And, you know, I had a. I had a call with him because I just thought at the time, if I didn't have any energy, why not study where energy was coming from instead of studying where sickness comes from? Because the, the statistics, when you're sick with something like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, once you've been bedridden for two years, basically the statistics are awful. Like 80% of people don't ever recover.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

So I just, I just knew that wasn't a route, so I wanted to go the opposite way. And, yeah, fortunately, well, he. He took this call and he said to me, well, I don't really know why I'm speaking to you, but I'm going to send you this fax. And he sent me a paper on quantum biology, which I only understood around 10% of it, but, you know, when something like that happens, I knew there was something in it and we built a relationship. He ended up emigrating from Australia to England and we formed this R D company at the same time that he was treating me with the things I was doing with you yesterday.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Interesting. So basically your body just had a bunch of energy blocks or what exactly was going on with you.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

So in, in the bioenergetics world, there's this. There's this principle of an energy control system. And in normal biology we're all used to the chemistry control system. You know, you eat a suck phone, you take a drug, travels through your digestive system, live it into the blood.

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[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

And a message gets through your cell. You know has, has a particular chemical reaction, however, that's a really, really inefficient way of getting you better. And instead of doing that, you can direct a message directly into your cells using fields. And yeah, the basis of Peter's work is he'd actually mapped out all of the energy fields of the body.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. So that's why acupuncture is so effective.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, that's why. Yeah, it's a 5,000 year old system that they worked out through trial and error. But the great thing is it's actually, it's actually just a message and you don't have to do it through acupuncture. You can give the body that same message, the direct information to your cells.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

It's much more efficient without the needle. That was always my fear, the needle man gotta penetrate like hundreds of needles in your body.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Well, also it's a bit inconvenient because you have to go and visit an acupuncture. And if you want to get really good results of acupuncture, you know, you want to visit them a few times a week. Right. And then it's pretty effective. But to do that at home. Yeah, it's not really practical.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Might as well use this device which you used on me yesterday. Could you actually explain what, what this is right here?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. So this is a. Well, this device is called My Health. It does a few things. So one, it stimulates you electrically. Two, it'll broadcast a PMF field. But the third most important thing, it's from this map of all the fields of the body. You can directly put in the right message and the right information straight into what we call your body field or your body's energy control system, which is, as you say, it's like a replacement of the acupuncture points.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. And we'll throw up some B roll footage of the test. I did, but I basically spoke 1 through 10 out loud into your computer. We saw the issues going on with my body. And then you then used this, this device on me to help. Right?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, is it okay to share what came off in your scan? Yeah, sure. So when we scanned Sean yesterday, like it showed he had some adrenal fatigue, showed he had some low energy in his brain cavity. Chest cavity.

Also showed like, like liver anger. Right, liver anger. And basically like overall stress, which is what you had been experiencing last week.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, I think as entrepreneurs we just kind of put that to the side. But to see it on the paper, like that extreme. Because I was on the extreme end of this really made me want to fix that.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

So thank you. Because I, I don't know how long it takes to feel the results, but I could be placebo, but I feel better already.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean, well, with, with this device, yeah, you've, I mean you basically feel, you feel better that day. And obviously the body is layered and you know, while you can affect the control system and you can feel calmer and feel more energy, so it does take, does take a bit longer to get all the physical changes, but that's because your body's overall control system. When you correct that, physical changes like come over the next, over the next couple of months.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Nice. Yeah. It was really eye opening for me just to speak into a computer and for that device to recognize everything going on with me. The future of, you know, medicine is exciting.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh yeah, that's, it's pretty incredible where it's going. Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Because imagine if you had that when you were bedridden at 21, you would have known pretty quickly what was going on, right?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, that's exactly the motivation. I mean, when I, when I was that age. Well, no, when I was 26, the idea that came into my head because I couldn't go and travel to different doctors because I couldn't drive at the time or I had to persuade my parents to drive me. And I just thought then, like, wouldn't it be great if there was a home wellness system that could just help you from the comfort of your own home? You know, that, that led to that initial scan that you did yesterday and these emphasis, which are a way of putting information back into the body, but really like the long term vision of that was to create a wearable where it's just always reading you 247 and always correcting you with that information. 24 7. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

It's almost like it autocorrects you. Like you know, you're typing and you get autocorrected.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yes, it's pretty much exactly like that. So in, in Chinese medicine, you can read your pulse and there's 29 different pulses. So we worked out algorithms that will read that pulse in real time and then exactly that. It, it autocorrects based to your reading.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. So walk us through how these infoceuticals work. What, what type of research has been been done on these and science behind it.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Um, so the research, there's, there's about 14 different studies. Well, I'll tell you some of the latest. So at University of California in San Diego under Professor Hamal Patel, I met him at A Joe Dispenza event. Because he was doing research for Joe, and It was in 2021, he was doing all of this Covid research where he was able to show that meditation could reduce viral penetration rate into lungs. I went up to him, I said, well, that's great, but in your study, you basically getting people to meditate two to three hours a day for months on end, and you're getting that result. What if you could just get that result by just delivering the information straight away? And he didn't believe me. But I sent him a bunch of pharmaceuticals to the university, and they sat on his shelf for around four or so months. And he eventually got around to it. He rang me up one day and he said, you know, Harry. Oh, that actually works. So he basically got. Got a. A culture of lung tissue, imprinted them with our emphasis, that helps the lung. And it had basically had the same. Well, it was a couple of percent better. It reduced the viral penetration rate by 40%.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

And then he said, you know, why don't you go and send me some more emphasiticals? And what we're mostly concerned with is energy, because if you can restore people's energy, then people have enough energy to actually heal. So we then did all of these different culture tests on different organs, but mainly muscle tissue. And we were able to show that when you imprint muscle tissue, we can increase the mitochondrial density by another 50%. But you can also make the energy efficiency of a cell use, like, carbohydrates in a more efficient manner by 25%. And we're also able to protect the cell from Ross damage. Ross stands for reactive oxygen species. But basically they poison the cell and is able to protect the cell from that.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That is fascinating. All from this little bile, huh?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh, yeah. Well, a particular one called cell driver. There's. There's 76 of them. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That is so efficient, too. Because before. I feel like people would need to spend way more money to address those issues. Right?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Way more. Right. You can spend thousands and thousands of dollars on blood tests to try and work out the root cause. You don't really know the root cause. Then after that, you could spend infinite money on stem cells, supplements, etc. Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Stem cells are crazy expensive.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. And this is like. Well, there's $35 a bottle, so. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

So you can get the effects of stem cells in one of these.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

You know, I don't know if I should totally say, say that claim.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

But in short, yes, you can rejuvenate cells. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That Is so cool. Did want to talk about emotions too. Is it true emotions can drain your energy?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Absolutely. So I'll, I'll just go to like a fundamental principle of why energy matters so much for your health. So when you're looking at a cell, a healthy cell will produce 50 to 70 millivolts across the cell membrane. And when it lowers down to around 50 millivolts, you start getting all these different symptoms and diseases. And in short, the thing that you want to do is make your cell use.

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[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Energy more efficiently because of its easing energy. When more efficiently you have more energy available, you have more energy available to heal. And one of the biggest drains, like we all think toxins, emf, you know, different viruses burn up energy, and they do, but actually the most significant thing that burns up your energy is stress and negative emotions. So for example, there's a study done by Yale university over, over 10 years and they looked at lung cancer caused from smoking, but also anger. And what they found is all the smokers who scored highly with anger, they were the ones who actually got lung cancer died. And all the ones that are actually in the more positive emotional states, never, never actually got cancer.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

And so you might think like, well, you know, we all think that smoking causes cancer. And it's not that smoking is good for you. It's totally not. But when the smoke enters your lungs.

What it's actually doing when you have a negative emotion, your DNA and RNA can't create repair proteins and excrete the toxins when you're in a negative state. But if you're in a positive state, all of your cells are basically able to excrete toxins and use energy more efficiently. So that's why negative emotions, or I should say the opposite, why positive emotions are so much more important.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That is so fascinating. It makes me think of alcohol too, because there's alcoholics that are drinking when they're depressed and angry. And it must do more damage when you're like that.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh yeah. It's a self perpetuating cycle where you get worse and worse.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. The power of the mind, huh?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That is so crazy. Also on the opposite end, like there's good emotions, right? Like gratitude.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yes. I mean every, every, like in, in Chinese medicine, every organ sort of has its opposite. So if we take the liver, for example, the liver in Chinese medicine is seen as the general. And it's all about being decisive. So what you want to do is, is cultivate decisions and decisiveness. And that, of course, gets rid of frustration and anger. Like, the quicker you can get to a decision, the less frustration and angry you are. Also took, like your spleen and pancreas, the negative emotion would be anxiety, but the positive side of anxiety is having faith or trust that things are going to work out. So you know what this wearable is primarily doing, or one of the things it does is it looks at those negative emotions, gives you awareness of them, and then it also puts in a biogetic signature that will help you be in that more positive state. But of course, just having that awareness and listening to a meditation to help transform that characteristic is massively helpful.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. I think my spleen came up on the reading too, yesterday. So that's anxiety.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

It's your pancreas, wasn't it?

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Was it pancreas? Okay, but I'm sure you're seeing a lot of anxiety issues, right?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That's a big one these days.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, it's one of the main ones, for sure.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Damn. How does AI play a role in your systems? Are you using AI with your devices?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

You know, I mean, I've had the company 24 years, like when I originally met Pisa, so it didn't start with AI. I mean, it started with literally, trial and error and refining algorithms over a very, very long period. Of course, we've had this massive race in AI over the last couple years of. Couple of years. But what's really exciting is now we can take those vocal biomarkers, we can combine it with all your wearable data, with all the pulse data, and soon you can. You can also upload all your blood lab results, and then that gives you a much, much more accurate reading of what's going on. But also the extra clever bit is you can see in real time what's affecting you. And it knows. It knows its treatments or it knows the biogenic signatures it's giving back to you, so it can continually refine it over time. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Have you seen anything offset the emf?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yes. So in. In our. In our world of what we call the body field, there, there's certain parts of the body, certain parts of the body field that get affected much more. And so in our thinking, instead of trying to, like, protect, what we do is actually just strengthen the damage to your body fields, we just put in the information. The correct. The corrects. That part of your body feel just making.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Interesting.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, I think, I think most of these devices, it's it's more about strengthening your own body field to be more resilient. Like the idea that it actually is blocking a wave, you know that's a misconception. That's not really true.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, that'd be hard to pull off. These towers are powerful.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yes.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

We got a lot of. You said there's nine on the roof.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I just counted on the way in.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh my God.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

You've got 14 individual bits and then you've got a huge radar.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh my God.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Race are on the opposite.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That's insane. I wonder if that affected my results yesterday.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean. Well, I mean it's going to be affecting your body over time. I mean it. And your liver actually it is quite sensitive to emf. Oh man.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm here a lot. I got to figure out some solutions. Might have to take some, some of these.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

But what's next for you? I know you're starting to sell this soon, right? In a few months.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean. Yeah. Probably the biggest things this, this wearable is, is coming out in basically in, in mid May. Actually there's a new version of this, this device coming out too.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

I love it.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

We'll put the link below. So I highly recommend guys. I had a really pleasant experience. It wasn't seamless. Pretty easy. Sometimes people really fear going to the doctor and everything. But I feel like with your stuff it's a lot different than western medicine.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean the whole, the whole concept for us is it's, it's not about the symptom or what's wrong with you. What we're looking at is how is someone when they're optimal or when, when their control system is working properly and we just look at the differences. So we're always just helping you to optimize your overall body's control system.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Right. And you want to help billions with us.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean from a societal level, I mean with, without. Well I can go down into it but like the, you know, the healthcare system.

If I, if I go back to like Rockefeller, you know, Rockefeller unfortunately because they wanted to find a market for all of their drugs and chemicals. Basically started banning like using regulation, discrediting different scientists and doctors. And that's why we've got a whole system today that's built on biochemistry. But if you use a field based system there's so many advantages. I mean one, you're not putting any extra chemicals or toxicity and even supplements, I know probably supplements. She'll hate me, but I'll, I'll, I'll say It anyway, you know, for example, if you take turmeric, like turmeric's a great anti inflammatory but if you use it every single day, it'll male's testosterone by 32%.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Gosh.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, obviously you don't.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

I literally take that one every day.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I really. Yeah, just, just, just take it when you're inflamed.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Okay, good to know.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, you don't want to take it every day. Well, but I mean every, every single thing you put in your body, it always has a second or third order effect. So from our point of view, if you're just, you might as well just use a message. Well, here's the bottom line. You want to find out which part of your control system is going wrong or isn't, isn't optimal. Correct that. And of course it does change over time. And if you're just giving a message without a chemical, you can correct that part of your body's control system without getting any of that toxicity and side effects. So from an overall societal level, it needs a much, much cheaper healthcare system as well. It's also much more effective and there's really, you know, there's no harm, there's, there's way, way less risk of, you know, flooding your body with chemicals. I love that.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That's beautiful. What other client transformations have you seen other than your own journey?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh, like thousands. But I can give some examples, please. So we also did like research into skin. So at the university you can base, you can basically create a skin graft and cut it. And we've seen how it can repair skin in a much, much faster manner.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

But on a personal level, so we had someone which like such, such severe psoriasis that all of their arms and bodies were completely and utterly red. It had it for seven years almost. Well, they told us they were basically giving up on their life because it was so painful. Just, just three weeks of using emphasis, it all cleared and they came back. Or there's an example of a, of a pony. Pony with a completely open wound, using antibiotics and everything to heal the wounds. Couldn't, couldn't heal the wound. And this was using this device. But basically we were able to heal the wound within, in a couple of weeks. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And that's big for animals to be able to use this too.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

You know, animals, it's a lot easier with animals. You know the problem with humans is we also have the nocebo effect. Like if, if you don't believe something or you're all negative about it, unfortunately you can, you can Counter results really well in any therapy. In any therapy. Because it's just like that lung cancer study. I said the door. You know, a dog or animal. They don't. They don't have any concept of what you're.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

They don't.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

They don't believe it. They don't not believe it. So. So when you do it, it's. Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

It's actually more effective.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

I didn't know how powerful Nocebo was.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, it's very powerful.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

So even if you're doing it on someone, but he doesn't believe it could work his brain.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Very skeptical. Yeah. I think it's fine to be neutral. You just want to be, like, having an open skepticism, but being neutral is fine. But, you know, there are people who are sick who go from practitioner to practitioner, therapy to therapy. I was probably one of those, you know, I was 21 to 25, 26. I discovered this. And, you know, people are almost like, well, see, you can't. You can't cure me. But, like, they're defeating themselves, unfortunately. Wow.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

So what happened with your spinal injury? Did you have to do any surgery or anything?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

It was. That's pretty interesting. So I. So I had the climbing. I had the climbing accident, and then two years later, I was paragliding. I had another accident, hit the ground, was rushed off to hospital, and they said, well, you know, you didn't break anything today, but it looks like your spine was fractured from that climbing accident. I was basically in a lot of back pain for years and years, and that was actually the reason I wanted to create this device is. Created the voice scan, the infraceuticals first. Yeah. The great. The great thing with this device, because it'll put energy directly into that part of the body, but it'll also remind your nervous system, your brain, that there's a problem with that area. So it'll trigger a healing response directly in that area. So. Yeah, I mean, there's literally this.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. So your spine's all healed now.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Holy crap. Because I know people get these spinal fusions and all these crazy procedures.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. Yeah. And.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And then sometimes you can't ever walk again once you get those.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, I was. I was lucky. I never had surgery, so it made it easier to heal.

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[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Well done, man.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Well, what's.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

What's the next step for you here? What are you looking to do next?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean. I mean, for us, we're basically fusing in all the AI With. With our voice scan with the wearable bringing out to market, and there's One other project that's pretty interesting would be making a whole personalized med bed. And with that same similar idea. But you. You can take the voice scan and the wearable data, walk up to a med bed, and because it knows precisely what's going on with you, it'll put in the right wavelengths and the right information strains the tissues. And then to help the emotional effects, you then listen to a personalized meditation.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

That'll basically take you through each of those organs that come up in the scan. So you get the. You get the visualization hypnosis effect, you get the energy from the light from the pmf, but you also get the right instructions to your body to heal.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That is beautiful. I wonder what that would look like with someone with depression.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean, it'll basically. I mean, with. With depression. Often with depression, I mean, it's. It's because. Because people have sort of lost, like they don't quite know what to do.

But it's very hard to get out of depression when you're very, very low in energy.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

So.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah, absolutely. Putting. Putting enough energy into the body, but also taking on that visualization journey as.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That's a good point because. Yeah, a bit depressed and you start sleeping like 12 hours a day because you don't have energy.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

And you're trying to get it back.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yep.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

So that makes me wonder if our bodies have a finite amount of energy or you could just constantly replenish it.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

That's an interesting point. So, like, your. Your body is an overall energy exchange system. So like I was saying yesterday about walking, you know, if you go outside, there's a lot of energy from sunlight. Gentle walking, because you're breathing in oxygen, breathing out carbon dioxide. That helps build your energy. And if you go barefoot. Well, there's more extreme versions of barefoot. You can go in an ozone sauna or put a lot of negative electrons in you. So as a general principle, the more you can recharge your body with energy and make that energy more efficient, the healthier you'll be.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

That's why some doctors tell their patients to just walk outside in nature.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

I've heard that a few times.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Yeah. Or swimming in the sea is like. The sea is amazing. The ocean, because the sun is hitting structured water. When the sun hits all of that salt water, it'll create more free electrons in the water. So you're basically bathing in this. In this sea of free electrons.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. That makes sense, because when I go in the ocean water, I feel amazing.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh, yeah, that's Literally one of the best ways, like grounding. Walking barefoot is nothing compared to swimming in this.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Really? Yeah. I used to be a fan of grounding, but then the whole parasite thing scared me in the grass.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

All right.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, like if a cow poops and then you start walking around, I. I.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Know you never heard of that.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Parasites can enter your feet.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Oh, God.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh. Sorry for breaking the bad news.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I've got a dog.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Dogs are parasites, but I'm sure with these devices, these probably help with parasites too.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

I mean, in, In. In the end, you know, whether it's a, like, forest fungus or parasites, the stronger your own body, the more. The more you can resist them.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

Anyway, that's good to know. Well, Harry, it's been awesome. We'll throw up some footage of my scanning and everything and make some clips. Anything else you want to close off with?

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

You know, if people want to try out the voice scan, they can just go to e4l.com backslash voice and. Yeah, you can. You can try out the whole voice.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

On the field, so definitely try it, guys. All you got to do is speak 1 through 10 and it tells you a bunch of important information.

[Harry (Founder of Energy for Life)]

Cool.

[Sean (Interviewer/Host)]

We'll link it below. Thanks for coming on. Check them out, guys. See you next time.