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How I Built a 15K Client Empire (No Funding) | Ace Rogers DSH #1007
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How I Built a 15K Client Empire with no outside funding - an incredible journey from professional gambling to digital marketing success. 🎲 Watch as Ace Rogers reveals how he leveraged his gambling expertise to bootstrap multiple successful tech companies, including a digital marketing empire serving 15,000 private practice doctors.
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Ace Rogers
No one sits down at a table with any rules. First rule is, what can you lose and what do you want to make? You know you can lose. You hit that, you lose. Now, the only exception is that out of 10 times, I'll say two to three times, I'll let you chase. It means go back to the cage, get some more money and fire some more bullets. I found like, you know, a few of those times, like, if I didn't chase, I wouldn't have got my money back. So I think like with every rule there has to be exceptions. But if your exception is I'm going back to the cage 10 times, that's not very smart.
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Unnamed Host
All right, guys, we're here in Vegas and you represent well. Coming up with the Louis suitcase. Thanks for coming on, man.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, I always got a hard case.
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Unnamed Host
Full of cash, huh? You're big on gambling, so that makes sense. Which hotel you like gambling out here?
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Ace Rogers
When everyone lets me. Now I'm back allowed into all of them. So I like the aria Cosmo win.
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Unnamed Host
Got it. So you were banned for a little bit?
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Ace Rogers
I was banned for about six years.
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Unnamed Host
Damn.
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Ace Rogers
Randomly called me up and said I could come back.
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Unnamed Host
That's a long time.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. Did they tell you why I got caught structuring? Basically, I knew how to take money from them and I'd take like maybe 30 grand a day, but I would cash out. You don't have to show ID if you get show chips for 3,000 or less. So if you go and you have three or four friends and you got, you make 30 grand. You know, you go make two trips, maybe one at like 10am, go back at 3pm, you can cash out all 30 grand without showing ID because I don't want to be tracked because I know I'm winning. Now you do that five to seven times. A week. How much money is that? Right. Right. Now, you do that over a few months. 4, 5, 6, 7 months. Ended up taking 1.2 million from the ARO, which isn't a lot for them over six months. But the thing is, they knew, like, that I was structuring. They don't like you, you know, they don't like you, you know, bending the rules, you know.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
Once they know that, they're like, okay, you're structuring. And I, I got greedy. I went back a second time in line, said, you know what? I'm going to be smart, not use this three grand. I'm going to cash out now. They asked me for id, and that's when they had me. And they went back and they, this is the guy who's been structuring for six months. They canceled me, cut me out and kicked me out. And then six years later, they called me back, said, I can come back.
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Unnamed Host
There we go. What was your game to make all that? Was it one game?
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Ace Rogers
Blackjack. I'm blackjack. Sports, horses, auto racing, and that's it.
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Unnamed Host
Okay, so a few games, yeah.
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Ace Rogers
Football, basketball, sports, horse racing and blackjack.
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Unnamed Host
Horse racing, wow. So you know your stuff.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking one of the best.
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Unnamed Host
Have you always been into gambling?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, forever. Since I was 13.
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Unnamed Host
And were you profitable at first or did it take some time to build?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, I wasn't at first. I was not profitable. I would lose. But you, you learn. You learn the game over time. And then I got really good at it, realized I could beat blackjack, I can beat sports. And I just kept going with it and make my bets bigger and bigger.
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Unnamed Host
Interesting. And have you had to adjust the strategy or. It's been pretty consistent throughout.
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Ace Rogers
It's pretty, pretty consistent overall. I have my own blackjack strategy. I only play six deck. I only play by myself. You know, quite frankly, I don't play against female Asian dealers. People. People are like, well, that's kind of weird. Well, go to the casino and go, tell me what nationality most of the. The dealers are. Go. They're all Asian and they're all female. And then if you walk to an Asian female and her name is One or win, what are you doing here? Like, what do you. Your name's One. Don't even know anyone named One or Wynn. It's like, I'm out of here, man. You're a assassin. I am not playing against you. And then you play so many hands, you realize that, you know, that nice old white guy over there, man, he Seems to be a lot easier to beat than this freaking lady. I just feel that Asian people have something magical with the cards that.
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Unnamed Host
Do you feel like the dealer actually matters?
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Ace Rogers
100%. Chip count, dealer, pit boss, you know, number of people at a table. I only do six deck. I play very fast, very hard. Large amounts. I don't sit down in the chair for the most part, and I play big and fast, and I leave.
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Unnamed Host
Wow. So you're standing.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, because I'm. I'm going to pay four or five hands, ten grand a piece, unless I. I front them a million, and then they'll let me pay around 20 grand a hand. Other than that, playing 10 grand, maybe five, six, seven, eight rounds, and I'm out.
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Unnamed Host
Similar to Dana White strategy, then.
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Ace Rogers
Yep. Just go big, go hard, try to make a bunch of money, and go.
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Unnamed Host
That makes sense. Yeah. I. I see the Asians in the background room, too.
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Ace Rogers
Always. They're everywhere in the casino. That's the thing, is there's something about them with the cards.
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Unnamed Host
They love that money. They love that backrat. I'm surprised you don't play baccarat.
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Ace Rogers
I don't. I. I was. You know, my boy is Mickey Mason. I know he loves that game, so I don't want him to teach me how to play. I know, dealer, bank or something. I don't want to know. I really don't want to know how to play because it just seems too easy.
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Unnamed Host
It is pretty mindless. You just pick one side.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. And I just don't think that's the. The game for me. It's a game for him, but blackjack's my game. We have different strategies. We were just talking the other day on my yacht, and he's like, you can't win. Your strategy, like. No, I actually went with my strategy. I see your point, but probability doesn't really factor into my thing because I'm playing so hard and so fast so quickly that I'm not really falling into the. The probability of the game over a long period of time.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah. I want to talk about the odd action.
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Unnamed Host
I didn't even know they made.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, they just started a few years ago. It's basically the only. There's two in the country. This is the first custom spec'd out one. It's in San Diego. It's Blue Elios and I got it about a year ago.
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Unnamed Host
Wow. And why'd you decide to get one?
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Ace Rogers
I'm one of Lamborghini's best customers, so when they offered me one, I just said, I'll take it. Went down to Italy, specked it out. It's 4.5 million cash. Paid them and they had it ready about a year later.
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Unnamed Host
Damn. So you, you bought a bunch of Lambos prior?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, I have like a live Estrado. I have Revolto. I've had the svj. I've had six or seven Uruses. I got hers, performantes, you name it, Lamborghini's made it. I've. I've basically bought it.
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Unnamed Host
Damn. And you made all that money from gambling?
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Ace Rogers
I, I also am. I'm a serial entrepreneur. I own five tech companies, I own a retail store called Aspen's Dog House and I'm also a professional gambler. The gambling has funded all that. So my companies, as I've been told, are very rare because we have no funding, we have no board of directors. It's just I've infused gambling money into my companies. I have a good strategy of making a ton of money gambling and then I, I funnel it into service based recurring revenue businesses off digital marketing. So I offer a service and I get paid monthly on that service. The main company is called Dr. Multimedia. We have 15,000 private practice doctors that pay us every month for digital marketing. Whether it's their website, their social media, their blogging, their video, their pictures, their SEO, their pay per click ads, you know, all the eight, eight different social medias they have, whether we want to write content for them so they'll pay us monthly. We keep their website up, we keep their email up, you know, we do their tech support. We can show them like text, texting services for their clients, you know, software for their patients, you know, and you know, their, their, their, their customer service software, things like that, we can help them get reviews online, you know, things like that, we can help them get rid of negative views. So all that, all that is based around digital marketing for private practice doctors and it's niched out. So once I take my money gambling, I'll throw it into my company that will obviously create, create a bigger pile there. Service based recurring revenue I was able to get, take that money, gamble more and now I've got a pile going back and forth of millions of dollars a month on each side.
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Unnamed Host
Nice. You got a very good discipline, it sounds like.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, yeah, you have to be disciplined. You know one thing at gambling, no one sits down at a table with any rules. The first rule is what can you lose and what do you want to make? You have to know, you have to have a goal. There's a third one. It's like how much time can you spend here? But that doesn't matter for me. But if you know what you're going to make that way, you hit that, you leave. You know what you can lose. You hit that, you lose. Now the only exception is that out of 10 times, I'll say two to three times, I'll let you chase means go back to the cage, get some more money and fire some more bullets. Because if you chase all 10 times, right, that's not a system. You just, you're just going to go chase, go back to the atm and go back to the cage and get more money. But I found that, you know, you have to stick to those most, most of the time, Know what you're going to win, know what you want to lose, and then two or three times I'll allow you. And you have to pick those times where, you know, because you're pissed you lost. You're like, I'm going back to get more money. I found like, you know, a few of those times, like, if I didn't chase, I wouldn't have got my money back. So I think like with every rule there has to be exceptions. But if your exception is, I'm going back to the cage 10 times, that's not very smart. But a couple times out of that 10, you can go back to the cage, get some more money, and you'll be, you'll sometimes you'll be glad you did a lot of the time. So those are my rules for gambling. Notes you want to make and know what you can lose for blackjack.
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Unnamed Host
And speaking of rules, what do you think about the book in blackjack?
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Ace Rogers
I think the only place you can get the book is in the fucking casino. So if it's in the casino gift shop, guess who's pumping it to you. I play the exact opposite of that strategy. Wow, the exact opposite of that strategy.
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Unnamed Host
That's crazy because isn't it statistically one of the best strategies though?
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Ace Rogers
Statistically, over a long period of time on a six deck shoe, I would say yes. But look at what people are doing. They're playing 5, 10, $200 a hand. I won't even touch those chips. They're bad luck. So I'm. I'm betting so big, I'm just. It's just basically me and you flip a coin, let's go. Let's not go over time. Maybe it'd be 50, 50. Right. If you keep flipping a coin, technically it'd be, it would, it would go closer to 50%. But if it's just me and you right now and we do four or five flips, guarantee someone gets like four or one. You know, something like that.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah, yeah.
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Ace Rogers
So that's where I come in. And I'm going to bet big and bet hard. So I'm. I'm taking myself out of the probability in the ratio.
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Unnamed Host
I love that. Yeah, because you're in and out quick. Like you said, you're probably done within 10 minutes always.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah.
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Unnamed Host
Wow. You mentioned luck earlier. How much of that do you factor in?
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Ace Rogers
You know, luck's pretty important, I gotta say. I'VE been, always been just naturally lucky. Knock on wood. So for me, I think luck's a big part of it. Some people are just naturally unlucky. I can like, sense their energy a mile away. And for me, I've just, I've always been a very fucking lucky person. So that's part of it. But a lot of his skill and, you know, having huge balls, being like, I'm not scared to fire because I'm scared to take my bets. I'm not scared to fire any amount of money.
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Unnamed Host
I'll theorize this about your luck because I, I believe in karma and I know you are pretty giving. You know, I've seen you tip 10k to valets. I've seen you give away Rolexes. So I think that actually helps your gambling person.
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Ace Rogers
I'm appeasing the gambling gods when I do that. Like if I'm, you know, I don't really. I don't fucking live.
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Ace Rogers
Well, guess why? I got a big. I got a fucking $300,000 on this game. And let's say I just, like, threw something out my window. I'm probably gonna lose that bet. That's the way I see about it. Because that's not a smart thing to do. I'm not saying litter if you don't gamble. I'm just saying I try to appease the gambling gods. Because whether it's karma or religion or you believe in Jesus or whatever, there's some higher power. I don't know how. Nothing can be created from nothing. So something created this. I don't know if it's a big bang theory, but what created that? Something created this. And whatever that higher power is. I believe being a good person, taking care of animals and giving will say, hey, I have to be good in your eyes. Because sometimes I'm a complete dick and an so that I might be well deserved in those, those situations where I'm a dick and an. But for the most part, I believe whoever the higher power is, or whatever karma is, they know this motherfucker's a good guy. So I'm gonna Back him. But it's like Wolverine. Nicest guy ever meet. Bring the claws out. Well, now someone's got to die. But then the day I think, we all think Wolverine's a good dude. Just leave him with the alone and.
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Unnamed Host
Don'T piss him off 100%. You have a soft spot for animals?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, absolutely.
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Unnamed Host
You got a three legged dog, right?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, I've had several of them. One just passed away a few months ago and I always take carry Aspen. I didn't bring him here this time. He's back at home with his mom.
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Unnamed Host
Wow. What made you so passionate about that, you think?
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Ace Rogers
I saw the relationship my roommate had in college with his dog and I always wanted that. And you'll, you'll find like I'm Indian descent, like, you know, red dot, matte, feather. And a lot of us don't grow up with dogs, right. And I just, someone told me that. Yeah, it is weird. So once I got my first dog, I just couldn't stop. I've always had, I always have four or five dogs at a time. They're usually all rescues. I've only had a couple pure breeds in my life. I'd like to, to adopt. I don't like to shop. And you know, I think that's also a big part of my luck because whatever, like I said that higher power is I'm taking care of animals that can't take care of themselves and I give them really good lives. So that should bring me some sort of, you know, some sort of luck in my opinion.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I grew up in an Asian household and I had to beg for a dog and she never gave me one. But so as soon as I moved out, I got one and it's been.
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Ace Rogers
Life changing and it's the best thing, best thing. If you, if you've never loved a dog, I don't really want to know you. If you tell people, oh, it's just a dog like you, dude, it's not just a dog. I've got a kid, you know, I mean I love my dog and I love my kid. Don't tell me I have to love an animal less than my child. I love them both equally. I have a lot of love to give. So I. Animals are just always going to be a part of my life and you know, I. Passing that down. Like you'll be able to pass that down onto your children. No, like they'll be, they'll be animal lovers and that's huge because that makes, that makes for good people.
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Unnamed Host
They're so healing, man.
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Ace Rogers
Oh, you don't. A lot of you people who. You don't need a therapist. You need a dog. Trust me. Get a dog. Dogs are therapy 100%.
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Unnamed Host
I had terrible anxiety before my dogs. Now I don't have any. Literally none.
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Ace Rogers
That's awesome. Yeah. My dogs are everything. They just accept you for who you are.
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Unnamed Host
Yep. You come home, no matter what kind of day you had, they're still the same.
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Ace Rogers
I say you leave. Some guys can leave their girlfriend for 15 minutes, and all of a sudden they come. Not mine, but they leave their girlfriends. In 15 minutes, you come back. Where the were? You leave your dog alone for 15 minutes. Come back. Oh, you're back. That's beautiful.
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Unnamed Host
I love that. Yeah. I think I might rescue my next one, dude. Because my first two were breeders, but I think there's a lot more fulfillment in rescues.
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Ace Rogers
They really. I think the. The ones get rescued know. They know when you save them. That car ride home with that dog, that dog knows you saved it. And the bond you have with that dog is unlike anyone I've ever had. And I. And I've literally taken a dog home with one of my friends, knowing that if anything ever happened to me, and I thought this before I got the dog. I'm going to make sure he rides in my boy's lap on the way home. Him and that dog always had a special, special relationship.
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Unnamed Host
Wow.
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Ace Rogers
So. But I was thinking ahead of time, like, I'm going to make sure he's in your lap, so he doesn't really know. So he's going to think you rescued him. But. And then they had a such a special relationship, and I knew if anything ever happened to me, he would take Josiah.
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Unnamed Host
I love it, man. That's powerful. You mentioned you had a kid. You have a daughter, right?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. Her name is Delilah Blue.
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Unnamed Host
Do you plan on teaching her all this?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna teach her everything I know. I think I'm. If school's not important, but I'm not gonna let school up my kid. If anyone's gonna up my kid, it's gonna be me. I figure I'm gonna teach her everything I know, right or wrong.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah. No public school for my kids, too.
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Ace Rogers
Oh, no. It's the worst thing ever. Like, they just teach. Teach how to be good employees, man. I want someone in business, you know, I want someone who can think for themselves and who just a good person.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
There's some, you know, aspects of school that are positive, but for the most part, I think wealthy and rich people are going to homeschool more and more and more.
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Unnamed Host
100%. Did you struggle working for other people at first?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, man. I've never, I always say I've never had a job. I've had like four jobs. They've all lasted five minutes. I just walked the out.
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Unnamed Host
Were they, what kind of jobs were they?
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Ace Rogers
I had, I, I was, I, I was, I had the job where you clean up the cars in a parking lot and for a grocery store. I had that job for two weeks. You know why? Because the first day they gave me the job, I went home and I came back and I clocked out. Two weeks later, they finally called my name in the parking lot to come and like, hey, where are you?
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Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
And then they realized I had not been there for two weeks. But I never took them that long. Yeah, it's two weeks. I never pushed one cart. And then like, hey, you, you, you don't, you don't really work here. Do I go? No, I just go home. Every time I clock, I just go home and I come back, I clock out four hours later. I, I don't push one cart. I had that job for two weeks, but I never showed up.
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Unnamed Host
That's a depressing job, especially out here in Vegas with the heat.
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Ace Rogers
Oh, yeah.
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Unnamed Host
I feel bad for those kids. Yeah, man. Yeah. But they don't know better, you know? They really don't.
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Ace Rogers
No, it's just how it goes. But, you know, I think working for some people, it's not for me. Especially as you know, in this day and age, if you can't figure out how to make a couple bucks with your cell phone, some technology, some Internet, I don't know. You, everyone, you. Even if like, even someone of average intelligence has all the skills he needs to easily make six figures a year. Like, easily. Because, you know, six figures is not hard. It's just really just effort. If you put some effort into the digital world, it's near impossible not to make a hundred fucking thousand dollars a year. Yeah, fucking impossible.
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Unnamed Host
I think people are aiming too low for 100k a year these days.
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Ace Rogers
Oh, that's not even real money. No, it's fucking. My dog can live that for two months.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah. When you factor in everything 100k goes by when you got kids, that's not a lot.
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Ace Rogers
It's nothing. And I, I don't think I could have enough money. You know, I'm always going to use it. If you really use utilizing it the right way, you're doing so much for the world and Expanding this base you have with people and animals and children and other people and your, your circle and your employees that I don't know. You have to keep making more and more money because now you have so many people depending on you and you want them to live well. So if I don't make more and more money every year, what's that going to mean for them? That means they're not getting raises. That means they're not gonna be able to buy new cars. They're not going to be able to send their kids to the school they want and take vacations and have a good life and live a high quality of life. So I think money for me is. I always mention it all the fucking time, like it's my number one thing. I love fucking money.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
Said it on Bradley's podcast. You know, money had a dick, I'd fucking suck it. And I'm not fucking gay.
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Unnamed Host
I love that. I can see why you have five companies now. Yeah. You're really passionate about changing lives.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. You have to be, you know, and first, I wasn't. I remember my first. My one of that. My buddy ak he lived with me. He was one of my first business partners. He had, he had. We lived together and he moved out and I'm like, I have to pay you now. I paid him basically nothing. I'm like, this is never going to end. And it hasn't ended. I still pay him, but luckily. And I pay him very well. And at that point, I didn't really want to take care of care of anyone. I was like, hey, give me five leashes and I'll be homeless. I'll make it fine. But now I really love taking care of people knowing, like, put it all on me. Your financial problems, you won't have. If know me, you will not have any financial problems.
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Unnamed Host
I love that. What's your comeback? When people say you're materialistic?
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Ace Rogers
I like nice, but I also give more than you do. So why can't. Why can't I have nice, buy nice, have a Lamborghini yacht and also give away eight figures a year? Why can't I can. I can have the best of both worlds. I think that's called America. So if it's just one thing, I. Hey, look at all the stuff I got. I don't base my happiness on Lamborghini yachts. I base my happiness on love and animals. Take all that away. Give me my dog and my kid and my girl. I'll figure I can get all everything back again. I can lose it all. And I can get it all back in easily. But what I can't get back is my girl, my daughter, and my dogs love that. So I base my happiness and law love. But I'm usually not talking like that to most people. I'm usually just money, money, money, money. So I show them all the shine. I don't show them the grind. But if you really know me, you know, like, I would trade it all for those three, those three people, those two people and, and those dogs.
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Unnamed Host
So you just put on that for social media, you're saying more or less?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, you know, it's just like social media is always. It's either like food on there, sex or money. That's all anyone cares about. Yeah, I, I've put out, you know, posts where I adopt this dog or I donated $10,000. This shelter gets no fucking views. It gets no fucking play. No, you know, what if I. And I've run a lot of different sorts of social medias and online presences, and I noticed if I put something, some sort of scandal out online, 300,000 views. So people want to see that. But if me giving money away is like, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, they'll just say, oh, you could have, you could have gave that. Oh, you know, they're just gonna waste the money, blah, blah, blah. So it's like, just what are you supposed to do at that point?
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Unnamed Host
Yeah, you see that with Mr. Beast, he had to start giving less because he used to give a million a video, but no one gave a right.
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Ace Rogers
No, you're like, you. I'm not trying to be Jimmy Darts, you know what I mean? But at the same time is I guarantee that guy's getting sponsored. And I bet she's making a pretty penny off it now, guaranteed, as he should, you know what I mean? But there's only so many people that want to see that. Like you give away. And I'm like, that's just. I, I give a lot. But also, 99 of my giving doesn't have a camera on it, and nor do I care for it to have a camera on it. So I really should document more of it so people could see all the giving that I do. But that's just not my, my thing, you know, I'm not trying because if I go up to a homeless person and I, you know, and every now and then, I'll do it every now and then, but now without thinking, I'm like kind of putting them on blast for my own gain.
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Unnamed Host
Right?
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Ace Rogers
Right. Why did I put someone. If I'm going to give something, I'm going to go tell you I'm going to do this and then not show you the person I'm going to give it to because then I feel like I'm exploiting them for fucking my benefit.
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Unnamed Host
That's true. Yeah. They could have someone they know watching the video that doesn't even know they're homeless.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. Just not fucking fair. I don't want. I don't want to do that. So I just give selflessly without a need for any media.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah. It's the game we play as content creators. I feel the same way you do. Like I'll have on a billionaire, bright person gets no views, but you have on someone flashy, like a Mickey Mace gets tens of millions of views.
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Ace Rogers
People. People see what they want to see. Social media is a up business.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah, it is. Have you gambled with Mickey?
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Ace Rogers
Yeah.
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Unnamed Host
Blackjacker.
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Ace Rogers
Blackjack. He plays blackjack. We're supposed to come out here soon.
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Unnamed Host
Nice. You guys should film that. They'll go viral.
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Ace Rogers
Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
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Unnamed Host
Do the casinos let you film?
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Ace Rogers
No.
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Unnamed Host
When you get.
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Ace Rogers
No, you have to be very discreet about filming. They do not like to film. And now that I'm allowed back into them. I'm not trying to play any games. I used to, you know, same thing he does. Let's just like, you know, real quick snap.
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Unnamed Host
A quick.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. You know, why am I. Why is this happening? And then you just look around. But I'm. Now that I'm allowed back in, I'm not trying to play any games with them. So I just. I have enough problems in casinos as it is when I walk in, so I just don't need anymore.
- [24:48]
Unnamed Host
Yeah. I mean, you stand out when you walk in with this and your shirt, I mean.
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Ace Rogers
Oh, yeah. You know, I'm not. You know, when you walk in this and you.
- [24:53]
Unnamed Host
Holy crap.
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Ace Rogers
And you say, you go to casino, man. And I'm just going to play. Someone in every casino every day has to come up to talk to me like, hey, what's all the cash about? And I'm just like, bro, we're in a casino, okay? And this isn't the. This isn't the circus. Circus. This is the Aria high limit room. What? Like, it's just some money I need to play.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
And this is the way I play. I don't want markers. I'm not. I don't like markers because now I'm kind of borrowing. And I don't play on credit. I play on cash. And you can see it, you know, so when you see it, it's totally different than wiring into a casino. Now all of a sudden, you, oh, you've wired in and they give you chips. Chips are just as bad, man. It was like, they're just chips. Here you go. Boom. They don't. You don't see them as money.
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Unnamed Host
You don't think about it?
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Ace Rogers
No. Same way. Reason people like, why don't you gamble online? You could place all these bets online. Okay, great. Let's say I put $200,000 on Alabama. They just beat Georgia. I had that. I won 250 grand off that game. I put. I bet. Place that bet on the MGM app. Okay. Sunday. And that's all. All I wanted to do. That was my game. I picked it out. I nailed it. I won my money for the week one game, we're out of here. We're collecting. See you next week. Sunday morning comes around. You know, I'm putting 20, 30 gram on a NFL game at 10am because it's not a big deal. I go, if I lose it, no big deal. I got a couple hundred grand coming. I'm. I'm not gonna care. I lose it, I'm pissed. I want my 30 grand back. 1pm Another 30 grand. What's at 5pm Sunday Night Football. Now I got 60 grand on a game. Now I'm down 120 on my. My 250. Monday Night Football comes around. I've got another 225, 000 on the game. I'm. Now I'm gonna be down 100. All because of that, because of an app. So that's why I don't do it like that, because I physically have to go and place my bets. So I collect my money and I leave. So I'm not. I'm not gonna go to the casino to put a 20, 30, 000 bet in. I'm not gonna. That's a waste of my time.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
So betting on the app, it's just a balance. So that balance, I'm. It's just a number. I'm gonna. Sooner or later. I'm. I'm a degenerate gambler just like every gambler. Next thing you know, Tuesday comes around and I'm just like, why didn't I just. I had a plan. Bet Alabama, take my money and run. That was my plan. But then 20, 30 goes into 60, 60 to 120. Now you got to put a big bet on Monday Night Football. I always say the biggest, the biggest idiots, the guy with his. The most money on the super bowl.
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Unnamed Host
You know, Sean Perry.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. It's like, what. It's just a isolated game now. I switch it for me, because Super Bowl's game, that will take seven figures from me on. If I try to bet seven figures on a NFL game this weekend, they won't let me do it. But on super bowl, they will take almost any bet. So there I do my. One of my larger bets usually is on the national championship game in college and football, and then also the Kentucky Derby, because these are three events that you can bet basically almost any amount of money you want to.
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Unnamed Host
Right.
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Ace Rogers
But if you just show up to a casino on a Tuesday to bet the Milwaukee Bucks, you're lucky if they're taking off. You'll be lucky if they take 50 grand.
- [27:49]
Unnamed Host
Right. Because you'll affect the line at that point. Right.
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Ace Rogers
100. With a million bucks, you'd be surprised. Yeah. Not on the super bowl, but. Yeah. And people should be. They think like, 100 grand doesn't affect the line. It absolutely fucking does. I've bet 10 grand on the halftime limes at the MGM on. On a football game. It moves a half point right away.
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Unnamed Host
Wow.
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Ace Rogers
Just ten measly grand. I'm like, how much. How little is everyone betting here? And I know because I bet horses. So when I'm at Del Mar and I'm betting the horses and all, they show you the pools, and I know how much I've bet, and I'd say I put 100 grand there, and then the horse goes off with $160,000 on it. I'm like, Jesus, 160 grand, man. I bet a hundred of it.
- [28:28]
Unnamed Host
That's nuts.
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Ace Rogers
That's like. I'm one of the biggest. Just tells you I'm. I know now I'm one of the biggest gamblers because 100. That 160 grand's mine. So when I see a line move, I know how little it takes to move the line.
- [28:39]
Unnamed Host
50.
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Ace Rogers
50 grand. They'll move it a half point.
- [28:41]
Unnamed Host
How big's the horse betting market? I don't know many people betting in that space.
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Ace Rogers
A lot of people don't bet. Bet big on horses. It's not really a thing. It's. There's only so many big races that you can really bet on. So for me, it. It's big for me, because it's pool betting. It's like poker. You're. They'll take as much money as you want because the house gets 17% of the rake, the track.
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Unnamed Host
Damn, that's a lot.
- [29:02]
Ace Rogers
So if you bet. If I bet 100 grand, they're getting 17 grand.
- [29:05]
Unnamed Host
Wow.
- [29:05]
Ace Rogers
And that goes into a win pool. So my 83 grand is going to get split among its wing pool and everyone else's money. So they don't mind how much. They don't care how much you bet. You bet a million dollars. But if you bet too much, you start affecting the odds where you're betting against yourself.
- [29:17]
Unnamed Host
Do you sell your picks?
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Ace Rogers
No, for me, for the most part, if someone's selling picks, they're not a fucking real guy gambler. Why would I give you my information? What does Google sell? Information. It's the most important, it's the most, it's the biggest commodity in the world, information. So when people are selling picks, I'm really, I'm really suspect of that. If I give away my pick, let's say to a thousand people online, they all bet it. Even though there's little, little, little, little baby bets. You're gonna up my line. Why would I give you my information and up my own line? Most of those handicappers don't have the balls to bet their own picks. So I used to sell my picks a long time ago. I would never give anyone my information anymore.
- [29:56]
Unnamed Host
Yeah, you're too big now.
- [29:57]
Ace Rogers
Yeah. No way. I'm betting too much money. I'm not going to give you my pick. Yeah, my information is everything. You move the half the line on me a half point because you're going to get my information. No way.
- [30:07]
Unnamed Host
Doesn't make sense. No, you can make more just betting your own money.
- [30:09]
Ace Rogers
Exactly. So why wouldn't they? Because they're fucking not. They just want your fucking. They just want to sell you a pick.
- [30:14]
Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
And a lot of times they're selling half of the picks on one side and half to the other. I've seen that and I know some really good handicappers that I would buy picks from that I actually do buy picks from. I bought picks from one guy for fucking ever. He's really good, but I know he doesn't have the balls to bet like me. That's why, that's why he won't. He's much more, and he's much, he's much more risk averse. You know me, I'm like, I don't give a fuck about risk. So the handicappers like that that are good, there are a few of them, but they don't have the balls to bet their picks.
- [30:41]
Unnamed Host
They're a needle in a haystack though.
- [30:42]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, exactly.
- [30:43]
Unnamed Host
The guys you're seeing buying ads are all just, you know.
- [30:46]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, it's just a scam.
- [30:47]
Unnamed Host
Yeah, it's a, it gets a bad rep your space.
- [30:49]
Ace Rogers
Oh, horrible for. Yeah, gambling. Yeah. Is a bad. That's why I don't go into that market because you, you, once, you, you lose a couple picks. Oh, you suck. You suck, man. I can lose. I can go, oh, and 100 on my picks. I will bet my 101st pick without any, I'm not taking any information from anyone. I, I know I'm that good, but I can go on a bad run.
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Unnamed Host
Have you gone on some pretty nasty ones?
- [31:09]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, I've gone some bad runs. I mean I'm good enough where I never get hurt too bad because I, I can sense out a bad run. So I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna feed into a bad run. I'm going to like shy away from it and try to, and try to, you know, weather out this storm. But when I'm on a good run, that's when you're gonna bet more.
- [31:28]
Unnamed Host
What's the best run you've had?
- [31:31]
Ace Rogers
The most I've done in a year is 40 million gambling.
- [31:33]
Unnamed Host
Holy crap.
- [31:34]
Ace Rogers
I'll average anywhere from 10 million to 40 million a year on gambling. But there's been, you know, about three years. I'd say three years in the last maybe 20 that I haven't won, that I kind of broke even or lost a little bit.
- [31:46]
Unnamed Host
That's still really good though. Yeah. 17 out of 20 winning years.
- [31:49]
Ace Rogers
It's amazing.
- [31:50]
Unnamed Host
That's phenomenal.
- [31:51]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, well, there's.
- [31:52]
Unnamed Host
Most people won't even admit they had a losing year. So I appreciate your honesty.
- [31:55]
Ace Rogers
No, absolutely. You know, I lose, I'll tell people I lose, but I obviously win way more than I lose. And then obviously online I post my winning tickets only. Why don't you post your losers? Why would I do that? Why would I post that? You don't think I lose? Of course I'm just going to post my winners. But it's. If you see my lifestyle and from 2016 on my Instagram and you see we started out with BMW i8s and now you see what we're driving now, how much money we have now You've seen the come up for the last eight years. You can't say that I'm not making money gambling. It would be stupid for you to say that. I used to bet $300 on blackjack. 300. I bet two. Two $300 bets. One was to pay my DirecTV bill and maybe the gas bill that came in. And the other $300 is where we could have a go get dinner at Prime Steakhouse in Bellagio. And I'd be pumped 600 bucks, man. 600 bucks. Now, you know, we don't. Now I tip fucking 600 bucks for a meal. So that's how it works. And now we're just betting a lot more. The numbers are a lot bigger.
- [32:50]
Unnamed Host
Humble beginnings, man. Wow. Were your parents pretty. Pretty successful or what were they doing?
- [32:55]
Ace Rogers
No, my mom was a special ed special education teacher and my dad was a textile chemistry. We were very middle class to below middle class.
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Unnamed Host
I could see why you're giving now with your mom being a special ed teacher.
- [33:05]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, of course, that takes. And she, she had an accent as well, so she couldn't like, coming from, From India. She had an accent. So they wouldn't let her teach regular public school because you don't want your kid getting taught English by someone with an accent. I could understand that one. So they. She had to get a special degree to teach special education kids because it's the only job she could have in the public school system.
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Unnamed Host
Wow. So where do you learn the business side of things?
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Ace Rogers
On like. I always think the best business men are kind of drug dealers. I sold a bunch of weed. I got busted in Vegas about. I forgot how many years ago I got busted. Henderson got me North Las Vegas. Las Vegas. FBI? Dea.
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Unnamed Host
Damn, you were moving volume.
- [33:48]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, they were, but they didn't. They got me with three pounds because I. Wow. Because I. I knew they were on me, so I fronted it all out. So they raided my house. They only found three pounds. And as for all you professional criminals out there, which I no longer am, you never do two felonies at once. So most of the times when you have that much, you're dealing that much weight, there's always gonna be guns involved. Always someone's got. Because you gotta. You need protection. Yeah, I never have any guns. So I. I knew I just got a bunch of weed. So My felony was three pounds. I did 90 days probation.
- [34:18]
Unnamed Host
Damn. Yeah, that's not bad at all.
- [34:20]
Ace Rogers
Expunged. And then my lawyer said, you know, you can go back to just dealing again. I'm like, nah, means to end. Because I was starting my digital marketing companies at the time because I couldn't meet anybody because I was stealing so much weight. So I was always paranoid if I meet someone like, oh, you're a cop.
- [34:33]
Unnamed Host
You'Re getting robbed, cop.
- [34:34]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, you're going to get me. So I'd Be isolated. While I was isolated, I was always online learning how to all the skills that I have now to run a social media or digital marketing company. I was learning online because I was just by myself all the time. And like I was starting these, this one sports site called Point Guard U for Arizona basketball. And I learned all my digital marketing skills. So once I got busted, I said, all right, I need something else besides gambling because I can't deal weed anymore. So I started getting, I started, I got a couple doctors for Dr. Multimedia and I realized how good I was at promoting them online and how many patients I got them. Next thing I know I take a clinic from 2.8 million a year, a veterinary hospital to 4.2 million in fucking less than a year. I just made you guys 1.4 million. And I know all this traffic is mine because I drew them in with certain groupons and certain specials and this and that and certain incentives that I know that these are all new clients. Like your new client special is mine. This is how you got all these new customers. So then I said, okay, if I can do this for you, I can do this for a lot more. Now Fast forward to 15,000 private practice doctors a month pay doctor multimedia.
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Unnamed Host
Holy crap. You're able to scale to that level.
- [35:41]
Ace Rogers
Which is very difficult to do. Anyone can start a digital marketing agency. Try scaling it self funded to $15,000. 15,000 private practice clients. And now we have Jet Digital that has a couple thousand clients. We have local clicks. That's just us. Social media marketing. As far as pay per click ads, we run all your, we run all your PPC ads for your social media, your Google Ads, your Facebook, whatever you want. So that does pay per click. We also have legal multimedia which is now just for lawyers. And then I have Aspen's Dog House which is a retail store for just dogs. High end stuff you get at my, our dog store you can't. And it's just dogs you can't get in petsmart. It's just the highest quality of stuff. You're not, we're not getting pet, you're not getting Purina and Pedigree at my fucking show. You're getting high quality food. So when you get it in my store, it's going to be fresh, it's going to be the best, it's going to be the best stuff your dog can get. It's going to be the stuff I would, I would give to my dog. The highest quality leash, collars, bowls, you name it there. And then I do the professional Gambling as well. A little bit of green real estate. And just a serial entrepreneur.
- [36:41]
Unnamed Host
Beautiful dude. Yeah. The pet stuff is no joke. I switched my dogs to raw diet. They're way healthier now.
- [36:46]
Ace Rogers
It's night and day. It just makes sense, man.
- [36:48]
Unnamed Host
Kibble is so bad for dogs.
- [36:50]
Ace Rogers
It's horrible. If you could see how that was made, you wouldn't feed it to your dogs.
- [36:54]
Unnamed Host
No shot. And, yeah, people don't even think about the bulls you mentioned. But those are quality, too.
- [36:58]
Ace Rogers
No. 100%. No. I just. Just got this new toy, and I'm. It's working really well, this smart dog toy, and, like, barks at your dog and it spins around automatically. It keeps them so fucking engaged.
- [37:09]
Unnamed Host
I need that because I got a herd dog. I got an Australian shepherd.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. Oh, yeah. So he has a ton of energy.
- [37:13]
Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, Those are. Those are very smart dogs. Very smart, very intelligent, a lot of energy. And, you know, you're. You're. You know, you're a guy you got to be fucking. You got to be working. So, you know. You know, you need a dog walker or some way to take that energy out of the dog.
- [37:26]
Unnamed Host
Yeah, I'm a fan of smart dogs. I don't like the dumb ones, like, the little ones. The girls have cats, basically.
- [37:33]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, more or less. So, I mean, I like big dogs. Unfortunately, all my dogs are pretty dumb, so, I mean. Yeah, we don't win new wars in my house. Like, literally, my. I got two dogs. They're just Harry and Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber, man. You get these two together, it's nothing but trouble, man. I think they got these smart ideas, and they just, like. They just go looking for trouble. But no, I do like. I like big dogs. I think a dog should be able to protect you for the most part, however, you know, I. I've started and got. I've started. I've got a little heart for small dogs now. A little bit.
- [38:03]
Unnamed Host
Yeah.
- [38:03]
Ace Rogers
I've known a few of them, and they've grown on me. But for me, I always. I always get big dogs.
- [38:08]
Unnamed Host
Okay. I just think the small ones are so annoying.
- [38:10]
Ace Rogers
Oh, 100. Bitching and whining, crying.
- [38:14]
Unnamed Host
Yeah. You bring yours on the flights with you or no?
- [38:18]
Ace Rogers
Absolutely. I don't go anywhere without my dog. One time, you'll see me without my dog. Just because I was taking a quick trip into Vegas, I wanted to come do this podcast, and I'm flying back out, but we're gonna. We'll be. We'll take the PJ back here on Monday.
- [38:28]
Unnamed Host
Nice. Did you gamble out here this trip?
- [38:29]
Ace Rogers
Absolutely. Always. Yep. So I do. I basically stay up all night and gamble.
- [38:33]
Unnamed Host
Oh, sure. I thought you were in and out.
- [38:35]
Ace Rogers
I am, but you know, I'm in and out. But there's certain games and you know, I'll go back and forth. I have a condo here, so, you know, I'll go to here. I'll go eat here. The restaurants are open late, so blackjack. I'll go in and out, but it doesn't mean I won't do like six or seven sessions of that 10 minutes during. During the night.
- [38:52]
Unnamed Host
That makes sense.
- [38:52]
Ace Rogers
And every now and then a session does get to an hour or two.
- [38:55]
Unnamed Host
If you're on it. Yeah. Because if you lose three in a row, you got to make it back, right?
- [38:58]
Ace Rogers
Exactly. So, you know, I'll just go back to my condo. I don't go go here. I don't drink. I'll go go get a bar. I go to get a orange juice. Relax. I'll start handicapping games. And then also when I'm saying like I'm gambling all night when I'm watching a sports game and it's, you know, it starts at 8pm Like Arizona will start. I think I know you know, these, everyone, Arizona starts tomorrow, I think at 8:00pm that's going to go to 11, 11:30. So me, I'm still gambling.
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Unnamed Host
You watch the full game?
- [39:25]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, I always. It's kind of like research. Gotta kind of watch the teams. I have certain teams that I love to watch. And you, you learn.
- [39:31]
Unnamed Host
Do you have a good control on your emotions during the game?
- [39:33]
Ace Rogers
100. You would not. You. You'll never know if I lost, but you'll know if I won.
- [39:38]
Unnamed Host
I love that. Yeah, that's hilarious. Some people do not have good emotional control.
- [39:42]
Ace Rogers
You don't want to be around those people.
- [39:43]
Unnamed Host
People like you could see it. They start drinking, they start going off the rails.
- [39:46]
Ace Rogers
No. Who would want to be around that person? You lose some money and now all of a sudden, like, people can't be around you Now. I always say if, if, if I lose, we're going out and if I win, we're really going. It's. What difference does it make if I. The amount of money I lose? Like, what's going out, spending 5, 10, 15, 20 grand, it's not gonna make a difference anymore. And if I win, it's definitely not gonna make a difference.
- [40:07]
Unnamed Host
Have you always been sober?
- [40:08]
Ace Rogers
No, I actually had a really bad stint with alcohol the last couple years. I just got out of rehab.
- [40:14]
Unnamed Host
Damn.
- [40:14]
Ace Rogers
A month And a half ago I did, I did two, I did two months in rehab over in San Diego. Didn't really tell anyone, but now I'm proud of it. And plus, I'm the man everyone should want to be anyway, so, you know, people want to hear the struggle. I'm not perfect. I was getting drunk off my mind for the last two years. I wasn't the dad I should have been, I wasn't the fiance I should have been. I wasn't the businessman I should have been. Luckily, I'm so hyper intelligent that I could maintain really well. And then now finding out, being sober as I am now, that I really wasn't maintaining, I really wasn't. You know, we're just making so much money that there's no problems, no one's broke.
- [40:50]
Unnamed Host
Every.
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Ace Rogers
We still got comfortable. Yeah, exactly. And that's, I found it's pretty common amongst, among CEOs. You know, once you have everything in life, that drive kind of goes away. You get complacent, you get comfortable. And I've got that thing back, I've got it all back. And now I know, like, I kind of needed that a little bit. Where, yeah, I was in the basement of rock bottom and you know, I, I, I was in a really bad place with my family, with my friends. It affected every relationship. And I've been sober for over four months and it's the best thing that ever happened.
- [41:21]
Unnamed Host
Wow. Appreciate the openness, man. Yeah, a lot of people would not share that. How did you re. Spark that fire?
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Ace Rogers
It's amazing what that alcohol does to you, man. It totally killed it. And now knowing that, you know, I did kind of take two years off of my potential, knowing my potential is better than most men's potential, I feel like I need to make up for that time.
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Unnamed Host
I lost time.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah, you know, sure, I have everything, but if I had stayed the course, you know, I, I'd be a lot closer to a billionaire than I am now, so. And yeah, that's something I, I want to strive to just for what I can do for animals, the world, the people around me. And you know, if I get there, I get there. But, you know, I'm well on my way there now, especially as being as sober as I am.
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Unnamed Host
Oh yeah, I love that. When did you realize your intelligence was different?
- [42:08]
Ace Rogers
I think in like seventh grade when I got, when I got kicked out of, I got kicked out of junior high for calling in a bomb threat. And I called a bomb threat. That was fucking smart. I was trying to study for a Test. I figured if I shut down the school, I could read the whole textbook. Oh my God. Asian parents, man, you know, they put that pressure on you. I was strung out on my grade, so I called them a bomb threat. They co. They closed down. They didn't close down school, but they came to my house and got me and figured. And I. Because I was scared of this pop test. So I wanted the school closed. So.
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Unnamed Host
Wow.
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Ace Rogers
Yeah. Kicked me out of school. My mom took me and then I got kicked out of junior high around ninth grade. I got kicked out of high school in 11th grade and my mom took. Took me to take the ged. I took the ged. I got my ged. I never graduated from high school. And I go, mom, I could have passed that in sixth grade. That's when I realized, like, damn, my intelligence level at a younger age was smarter than everybody's. And why. Why I'm getting in trouble all the time because you can't. Can't put people like me in a box in a school system. Yeah, you're gonna rebel. It doesn't make sense. And you know, now I know I'm the most successful person from the class of my high school class that I never graduated from.
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Unnamed Host
Probably the whole school in general.
- [43:17]
Ace Rogers
Yeah. 100.
- [43:18]
Unnamed Host
Not just.
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Ace Rogers
Not even close.
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Unnamed Host
Oh, but that's relatable because I thought I was dumb because of school. I was getting shit grades and I was Asian and you know how strict Asians are. So my whole life I was like, wow, why am I stupid? But that's not actual intelligence.
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Ace Rogers
No, not at all. School. School makes good employees, man.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah, you're just. You're just a robot. If you're getting straight A's and getting a job.
- [43:37]
Ace Rogers
If I had to do it all over again, I got. Go into business when I was 18 years old and fall on my face four or five times till I figure it out. Simple as that. Like, this didn't work out for you as soon as you started, right?
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Unnamed Host
No.
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Ace Rogers
You had your.
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Unnamed Host
I started a pod five years ago. It failed.
- [43:51]
Ace Rogers
Right? Ups and downs. Then you learned everything, and now it's now no one can stop you because you know so much about this. It's like, now I can just. Now it's on repeat, right? They can't take that from you.
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Unnamed Host
It's the experience plus the connections and the networking. I've really focused on that. I'm sure you have as well.
- [44:05]
Ace Rogers
100.
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Unnamed Host
I'm sure. While you're gambling, you're probably meeting some cool people in the high limit room.
- [44:09]
Ace Rogers
Yeah, yeah, you do. You meet some high rollers, some really, you know, some people at your level, you know, kind of. And then you, you meet these guys and they're, you know, nobody really wants anything from each other. We all have kind of a, you know, we have our own. So we can use that to kind of, you know, help each other to kind of multiply in all our resources, our connection. Everyone has. I have a guy for everything, you know, and so, and so do they. So it's really hard to stop us when you have a guy for everything.
- [44:30]
Unnamed Host
Yep. Yeah. You're one degree from probably anyone you need.
- [44:33]
Ace Rogers
Yeah. The first thing I did here when actually, you know, your guys like, hey, let me put you on this WhatsApp group. Right. Connecting everyone right away. And that's like an invaluable resource to have.
- [44:42]
Unnamed Host
Yeah, yeah. Every single guest that's been on the show is in one shot and we. You're not allowed to promote your own in there. So we only help each other.
- [44:49]
Ace Rogers
That's really cool.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah. I hate, I hate when there's like people are just promoting their own.
- [44:53]
Ace Rogers
Like, why, like that's just so disrespectful.
- [44:56]
Unnamed Host
Yeah. For real. The lack of like respect for people is. People don't even pick up on that. That's, that's what blows my mind.
- [45:03]
Ace Rogers
Common sense and common courtesy are not very common.
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Unnamed Host
That's what I realized. When you grow up with money, I notice it's more common in those people.
- [45:11]
Ace Rogers
Right. Maybe have some class and some etiquette.
- [45:13]
Unnamed Host
Yeah.
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Ace Rogers
People without money. Usually you can't take someone from Red Lobster to Delilah.
- [45:19]
Unnamed Host
Yeah. Everything's handed for them. So they don't know better. No, that's not real life though.
- [45:24]
Ace Rogers
No, I'd rather, I'd rather work and earn for it. Especially if you're a guy.
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Unnamed Host
Yeah, I would, I would actually hate just being given money when I was growing up.
- [45:31]
Ace Rogers
It would ruin you.
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Unnamed Host
It would destroy me.
- [45:33]
Ace Rogers
And when you don't have it, you look at everyone else who has it and you're jealous of them. And you're like, I wish I had it like that. But not knowing, you know, not having money is one of the best things. You have to learn how to make it.
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Unnamed Host
Most successful people, I'd say over 80 have no money or little money. Grew up in a rough environment.
- [45:48]
Ace Rogers
I think they say, I don't know, 80, 90 of millionaires are all self made.
- [45:52]
Unnamed Host
Yeah, I've seen all.
- [45:53]
Ace Rogers
It's all the poor people who want to say, you have a trust fund now. Think about it. How many people do you really know? The trust fund. How many do you know?
- [45:59]
Unnamed Host
Not many.
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Ace Rogers
Thank you. So where are they all? I know, I know. I know. One person with a trust fund, it's just not how it works, you know, you usually go out and make your money.
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Unnamed Host
Absolutely. Ace, it's been awesome, man. Where can people find you? Keep up with you.
- [46:13]
Ace Rogers
Ace Rogers, CEO on Instagram. No D in the the Rogers. Ace Rogers, CEO on Instagram.
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Unnamed Host
Boom. We'll link below. Thanks for coming on, man.
- [46:20]
Ace Rogers
Any time. Thanks for having me.
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Unnamed Host
Thanks for watching, guys. See you next time.