How Social Media Can Transform Your Dating Life| Logan Duong DSH #1285

Summary

Content Warning:
The following summary contains discussions on controversial and potentially offensive topics related to gender dynamics, relationships, and social media. Listener discretion is advised.

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Digital Social Hour: "How Social Media Can Transform Your Dating Life" featuring Logan Duong DSH (#1285)

Release Date: March 31, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Logan Duong DSH

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Introduction

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in a candid discussion with Logan Duong DSH about the profound impact of social media on modern dating practices. Logan shares his unconventional perspectives on gender roles, relationships, and the strategies men can employ to enhance their dating lives in the digital age.

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Logan's Journey into Dating Advice ([00:00] - [02:04])

Logan begins by outlining his accidental entry into the realm of providing dating advice. A viral clip featuring him attracting a woman sparked widespread interest, leading him to shift focus from promoting a clothing brand to offering guidance on attracting women. He credits his transformation to mentoring from Corey Wayne, whose teachings helped Logan improve his interactions with women.

Logan Wong ([00:35]): "I watched a bunch of his videos, started getting good with girls, started improve my life, and I started sharing his work with everyone else."

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The Role of Social Media in Dating ([02:04] - [04:04])

Logan emphasizes the necessity of a strong social media presence in today's dating landscape. He argues that platforms like Instagram and dating apps have automated the dating process, allowing individuals to connect without face-to-face interactions. Logan shares his personal strategy of having a partner manage his interactions on dating apps to maintain multiple relationships seamlessly.

Logan Wong ([02:07]): "Once you have a social presence, bro, we don't have to leave our houses. It's all automated, basically."

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Challenging Conventional Attractiveness ([04:04] - [07:30])

Addressing common insecurities, Logan asserts that physical attributes such as height and race are less significant than confidence and self-belief. He contends that many traditionally "attractive" individuals fail to form meaningful connections due to a lack of genuine interaction skills.

Logan Wong ([05:03]): "Looks don't matter, right. They matter to a certain extent. They help you get your foot in the door."

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Critique of "Nice Guys" and Relationship Dynamics ([07:30] - [17:30])

Logan challenges the notion that "nice guys finish last," arguing that excessive niceness and putting others above oneself lead to a loss of respect and attraction. He advocates for maintaining personal boundaries and not being overly accommodating to preserve one's value and mysteriousness in relationships.

Logan Wong ([07:30]): "Nice guys always finish last because they put everyone else before them."

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Multiple Relationships and Transparency ([17:30] - [23:29])

Discussing his personal approach, Logan reveals his preference for managing multiple relationships concurrently. He believes in complete transparency from the onset, informing potential partners about his intentions to maintain multiple connections. Logan asserts that this honesty prevents future conflicts and ensures that only those comfortable with such arrangements remain in his life.

Logan Wong ([13:51]): "I'm telling the girl, I have other girls. I'm not gonna settle down. If you wanna stay with me, great. Otherwise, cool."

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Red Pill Philosophy and Its Limitations ([18:17] - [39:32])

Logan touches upon the Red Pill movement, acknowledging its insights into gender dynamics but criticizing its lack of actionable solutions. He emphasizes the importance of self-confidence, leadership, and maintaining personal missions over succumbing to societal expectations or relationship pressures.

Logan Wong ([25:57]): "Confidence is a game changer. You can look hideous, but if you have confidence, you can make them laugh."

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Impact of Social Media Platforms on Dating Success ([33:50] - [35:35])

Logan discusses the evolving dynamics of dating apps, noting the increased competition and diminishing returns for users. He advises men to optimize their profiles strategically by limiting swipes to enhance their visibility and attractiveness on these platforms.

Logan Wong ([34:43]): "Girls only swipe on like one out of every 20 guys that they see."

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Parenting and Relationship Expectations ([30:31] - [32:15])

Reflecting on his upbringing, Logan shares his experiences convincing his Asian parents to support his entrepreneurial endeavors over traditional paths like the military or college. He highlights cultural expectations surrounding career and relationships, advocating for personal fulfillment over societal approval.

Logan Wong ([30:35]): "I joined the military just because my dad was like, yo, you have to either join the military or go to college."

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Final Insights and Coaching Philosophy ([43:00] - [55:23])

Logan concludes by addressing common relationship issues, such as infidelity, attributing them to a man's lack of self-awareness and failure to maintain personal standards. He stresses the importance of self-improvement, setting clear boundaries, and not allowing relationships to impede one's broader life missions.

Logan Wong ([48:10]): "The number one mistake men do that kills their attraction instantly is giving away too much interest."

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Conclusion

Logan Duong DSH's discussion on Digital Social Hour presents a provocative take on modern dating influenced by social media. His emphasis on self-confidence, strategic social presence, and challenging traditional gender norms offers a controversial yet thought-provoking perspective for listeners navigating the complexities of contemporary relationships.

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Note: This summary aims to objectively present the content discussed in the podcast episode without endorsing or critiquing the views expressed by the guest.

Transcript

[Logan Wong]

We start out down here, girls start up here, right? But here's the catch for girls. Women are based upon their ethics, their morals, and their values. And so women are born up here, men are born down here. And over time, women can go down by losing their morals, ethics, and values. And men can go up by building their power, status, and success. So girls are born as queens, guys are born as slaves.

[Unknown Host]

All right, guys, we got Logan here today. He is going to help you pick up some ladies. Thanks for coming on, man.

[Logan Wong]

Let's do it. Thanks for having me on, bro. Appreciate it.

[Unknown Host]

Have you always had game or was it a developed skill?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, so for me, it's interesting. So I got dragged into, like, this whole giving advice space accidentally, and it was just from a clip of my buddy posting, like, a video of me making out with some chick that I met within, like, 15 seconds. And it went viral. But the goal of that clip, the reason why I posted it, is because we had a Chloe man at the time, and we're trying to promote the clothing brand. And we're like, okay, the clothing brand's name was Unbounded. And we're like, okay, Unbounded pulls bitches. And, like, video went viral, you know, but no one bought any clothing. Everyone in the comments was asking, how do you get girls? How did he do that? Whatever the fuck. He's short, he's 5 7, he's Asian. Never seen this happen before. What the fuck? And so it went viral, and then I started, you know, replying to people's questions, whatever, and kind of spread into this thing of me giving advice to guys. But before that, you know, I got out of a really bad relationship, right? Heartbroken, toxic ex girlfriend. You know, she had social media, a bunch of guy friends. I learned the hard way about that shit. And so, you know, eventually started searching up on YouTube when I was younger, you know, how do I get better with girls? You know, why did she do these things? Whatever. And I found my mentor coach, Corey Wayne. And so he's the guy that helped me out. And I know him very, very well now. But, yeah, I watched a bunch of his videos, started getting good with girls, started improve my life, and I started sharing his work with everyone else. But everyone was like, dude, I want to learn from you. This guy's like 50. He's. He's old, he's bald. He's talking about paging bitches and emailing bitches. So it was a little bit outdated. And, you know, so I started talking about how to use social media, dating apps, And a bunch of other things. And that's where guys are like, okay, this is dope. This is new. This is what's right now.

[Unknown Host]

It's a new era, right?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

It's way before you would pick them up in person, but now with the apps, it's digital.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. It's like, once you have a social presence, bro, we don't have to leave our fucking houses. It's all automated, basically, right? And there's different setups, too. Like, I have my girlfriend, and she's my main chick of it. She is on other dating apps for other girls, and she'll see swiping on other girls to bring me over other chicks for, like, three sums or just hanging out.

[Unknown Host]

Are you serious?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. You want to see the text? I'll send you the text.

[Unknown Host]

How did you work that out?

[Logan Wong]

I was sending Michael Sartain screenshots because she's like, she's over here in Cali and we're in Vegas, and she was, like, matching with girls in Vegas. She's like, okay, we'll put you guys in a group chat. So my dating life's automated. I automated that shit. But when it comes to, like, regular, you know, for the average dude, right? And we get to talk about that later. I'll teach guys how to do that shit later. But for the average dude, like, you need to have some sort of social presence or Instagram or something. Because even if you meet a girl in person, she's still gonna ask for your Instagram, right? She's like, okay, let me see your Instagram. Because what they're looking for is, are you a fucking weirdo? It's like, because if you have no social media and you're just an alien, right? That's what you look like. You've just an anonymous, like, Instagram profile, whatever. They're like, who's this guy? Right? And so they're trying to get more info on you, which is great. If you have a good social media, you don't give away too much info. Like, if you look at my Instagram, right, see me with girls, you see me with cars, see me in nice places. They're gonna be like, wondering, what does he do? That's a good setup for me, right? And it creates that spark of attraction, that interest that gets her to get hooked and ask more questions, right? And so if you could build something like that, that's something you need to do. And I'll teach you guys how to do that as well. And, like, in my courses, whatever, you know, it's podcast I'll teach you guys how to do that because it's very, very valuable. And I have always had social media. So back in, like middle school, I had my own social media because I wanted to help grow other businesses social media. So I used to walk up to restaurants, you know, tell them, yo, I'm going to grow your social media. And I would help them do that. Right. Because I understood that, yo, if you have a bigger social media presence, you'll be able to sell more stuff or just at least raise the prices or do something that helps you, you know, raise the value of your brand.

[Unknown Host]

Right?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. And so that's something that also could build a community too. It's like when you post your customers and your clients, which I see you doing all the time, it builds that community and builds that network, which is like another value add onto the stack. And I understood that for a long time. And I did it for myself, I did it for other businesses. I didn't really see that many other guys doing it. But, dude, in high school, whatever, it got me so many leads. It got me so many people, businesses, whatever, at such a young age. And whenever I met girls or whatever, they'd always be talking about me, about my Instagram. They knew who I was, even from girls from different schools. Right. And that helps out a lot. And so even when you're out of high school or college, which I think is honestly the best time to get girls, because you're around the most girls. Right. Because when you're out of high school and college, you know that there's not. There's no social circles. You have to build your own stuff. And so social media will help you out with that.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, the SMMA Tai Lopez days, man, those are the days.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, the OG days. Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

He put on a lot of people with that stuff.

[Logan Wong]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Shout out to Ty. I think you give hope to a lot of guys because like you said earlier, you're short.

[Logan Wong]

Yep.

[Unknown Host]

You're Asian. Like, most women, like, don't like short guys, allegedly. Right.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Have you run into that?

[Logan Wong]

That's the thing is, like, I. I genuinely. Looks don't matter, right? They. They matter a certain extent. They help you get your foot in the door. But I've also seen super tall guys taller than you jack more super fucking jacked suck with bitches.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

Like, they can't talk to any girls. They get their foot in the door, the girls talk to him and they realize this guy's a weirdo. So it doesn't really matter to a certain Extent, right? So. But if you are super jacked, you're tall, you're rich, and you can talk to girls, bro, you're chilling. Yeah, but very, very rare. So the guys who are good with girls, what I've noticed is it doesn't really matter how tall they are. It doesn't matter what they look like. I've seen guys pull girls in wheelchairs. I've pulled girls in wheelchairs. I went to amusement park, put myself in a wheelchair, went around just getting girls, Instagrams and numbers just because. Just for fun, right? And so just to test it out. So it's definitely possible. And it doesn't really matter, you know, what you look like or whatever, because here's the thing, bro, it's like girls genuinely only care about one thing and it's their feelings. That's it. They don't care about how you feel towards them. They don't care about any of that shit. They care only about how they feel towards you. And. And this goes down to every deepest level. You do everything for a chick, you'd be super rich, you could buy a girl bag, you buy her fucking car. But if she doesn't like you, it doesn't really matter. She would she, she rather just spend five minutes with a guy that she likes rather than getting a car and a bag and all this other shit.

[Unknown Host]

Agreed?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Do nice guys finish last?

[Logan Wong]

Nice guys always finish last. And the reason because nice guys finish last is because they put everyone else before them. And when you put everyone else before you, you're always gonna be losing. Because when you. When you put other people above you and you put people on a pedestal, people don't treat you the right way, right? Whenever you put a girl on a pedestal, whenever you put a girl above you, basically, as if she's better than you, which really she's not. All people are, you know, however you treat them, right, how you view yourself as, you know, very, very important. But if you view someone better than you, instinctively, they're going to treat you less than you. But if you treat people as equal or sometimes even less than you, they're also going to reciprocate that. It's just how it is. And so the guys who are assholes, the guys who are nonchalant, basically treating everyone like whatever those guys are most attractive. And the reason is because girls can trust that more because the guys are not trying to get anything from the girl. The reason why the girls don't really like nice guys and the guys who are people pleasers is because it's weird. You can't trust it. It's like, why is this guy being so nice to me?

[Unknown Host]

Right?

[Logan Wong]

Because if that's it, you have everything in the world. There's no reason for you to be going out, trying to do a bunch of shit for people unless you're trying to get something from them, right? And so that's why girls instinctively understand that this guy. There's something off about this guy. The nice guy seems too desperate. Why is he chasing after me so much? He has nothing else better to do than chasing. Texting me and call me all day. That's literally what they're thinking. And the guy who's an asshole, the guy who has a bunch of other options, they're always questioning, does he like me? Is he into me? Why is he not texting me? Why is he not calling me? What else is he doing? Is he talking to other girls?

[Unknown Host]

Right?

[Logan Wong]

She's already hooked, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

So that's the thing, is the reason why the nice guy loses is because he gives away all of his cards. He gives away all his mysteriousness. He tells the girl he likes her, he shows too much interest, and now that's boring. And when the thing is, you know, predictableness and being too direct and sharing everything about yourself is boring to women.

[Unknown Host]

Absolutely.

[Logan Wong]

Because you have to. You have to create the story. If you read any book that women buy, like, 50 shades are great, whatever. It's a story, right? It's not a, hey, this is what I am. This is what I like. Here's what I'm gonna do with you. Whatever. It's just. It doesn't. It just ruins everything, right? So women want to be in a story, and when you ruin that story by being too nice, direct, you know, telling her everything, how you feel, whatever, it just is. What. It's actually even scientific. Scientific proof that, like, women prefer men whose feelings are unclear. Like, actually scientific proven. Yes. They prefer men whose feelings are unclear.

[Unknown Host]

Wow.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. Because the thing is, when you give away all your cards, bro, there's nothing that they could play with. It's not fun. The game is no longer fun to them. Yeah, right. Even with relationship, too. And so even with the relationship, it's like, you cannot be getting complacent. When you get complacent with a girl, she's gonna start, you know, seeking attention, validation from other people, or she's gonna start seeking that fun somewhere else, doing other things with her friends, whatever. So you always want to be the source of that. You always want to be the source of the fun, the attention, whatever it may be, and creating those emotions. And so even in a relationship, you have to create that roller coaster. Right? What is he doing? What is he up to? Oh, he just flew to some other state for two weeks. What the fuck? I see him post on Instagram. Where's he at? Right. Even in a relationship, you have to create that drama. Right. Even Tate says, like, you have to create the drama. Right. It's better that you create the drama rather than some other. Some other people.

[Unknown Host]

Right.

[Logan Wong]

Because women are always going to crave it. They don't crave the drama, they crave the emotions. They create the feeling. Right. I tell guys all the time, another reason why you need to have social media, another reason why it's okay to be the asshole is it's better to be hated than to be ignored. And we understand this about social media too, is in social media world, it is much better to be slandered and talk shit upon and being hate or canceled than to be a nobody. Right? It is much better to have one than the other. And obviously it's better to be talked good upon, but that's not always the case.

[Unknown Host]

Right?

[Logan Wong]

Right. So even in social media world and in every other aspect of life, it is much better to be bold, be direct, share what you believe in, and, you know, have some haters than to be a nobody. Because, dude, there's going to be so many guys that, you know, are going to be afraid to say and do what they want because they're afraid of getting canceled, they're afraid of getting hated or girls not liking them. Doesn't matter, bro. It's all. It's all publicity, Right? If this girl doesn't like you, she talks whatever about you. Guess what? There's gonna be her friends. Yes. What is. Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

So many people when Dan was Erin came on the scene, hated it.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

And he was able to channel that into, like, a huge following.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

You know, So I agree with you.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. You have to. You have to. Even in the book 40 Laws of Power Talks, but. Right. And just. It's much better to move with being bold and direct and to be talked shit upon than to be ignored. Because if you're ignored, bro, it's like you don't inspire emotions. You don't invoke anything. And this is why girls prefer being with a toxic asshole. That's why, you see, girls stay in a relationship longer with a toxic asshole than to be in a relationship with a nice guy. They always leave and dump the nice guys, but then they Happen to stay with the toxic assholes and they complain about it. So which would you rather be? Would you rather be the guy who's super nice being walked upon, getting dumped and the girl saying, oh, well, I just wasn't feeling anymore, you know, it's not you, it's me. That's what happens when you're too nice. That's what happens when you don't evoke her emotions.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

She's gonna start chasing external things besides you.

[Unknown Host]

Now you got multiple girlfriends. So is it open on both ends? Like, are they allowed to hook up with other guys?

[Logan Wong]

No. The reason why is I don't think that's gonna work. Right. And the thing is, I actually think what I do works the best because I've seen it where for me personally, right. I've tried to date just one girl.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

One on one. And for some reason, it just doesn't work for me. For me, personally, doesn't work. However, I still help guys. If that's what they want. That's what they want. Right. For me, that is something that. It just doesn't work for me talking to one girl only. You know, because you travel a lot. I travel a lot, I do a bunch of stuff. And plus, I want to. It's like I was actually lying to myself back then of like, oh, I only want to talk to you, whatever. I was so interested in other girls and, you know, that's actually not fair to the girl. It's not fair to the girl. It's not fair to me either. And so I was actually in the past, I was very inauthentic with what I wanted, and I was actually lying to the girl. I was lying to myself, and it wasn't fair. And the girl can sense, and the girl could feel it. And, you know, I was also unhappy too. And so I believe that if that's what you want, then that's what you want. But for me, I always knew what I wanted. But society, whatever, friends, family, they shamed me.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Marriage.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. You know, you only talk to one girl. Whatever, bro. Here's the thing. It is actually incredibly rare for a guy to be talking to multiple girls. It's actually the other way around. Now most girls are talking to at least five other dudes. @ least.

[Unknown Host]

That's crazy.

[Logan Wong]

At least, bro. At least. Ask any girl, like, how many guys are you playing right now? I have a few. Right. It's just how it is.

[Unknown Host]

I got a roster.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, I got a roster. Every single girl, bro. And so it used to be the opposite, but now it's like, most guys are, you know, guys. Most guys are virgins. More girls are. Have higher body counts than men now, right? Yeah. So it's completely flipped. But for me, the reason why I like to have multiple girlfriends and, like, I like talking to multiple girls. Just, you know, that's just what I want. That's what I. What I like. And I've been able to negotiate for it. Right? You don't get what you want in life, you get what you negotiate. And so I've been able to just, you know, very directly tell girls, like, hey, you know, even from the get go, when I first meet girls, and people are like, that's unfair. You're manipulating the girl. You're lying to the girl by having other girls inside. No, dude, on the first date, I'm telling the girl, I have other girls. I'm not gonna settle down. So if you wanna stay with me, great. We're gonna have some fun and I'm gonna take care of you. Otherwise, cool. You can walk away. But they never walk away.

[Unknown Host]

Wow.

[Logan Wong]

Because being direct in that way is so respectful. Like, imagine a guy telling you directly like, hey, this is who I am. This is what I believe in. If you fuck with it, dope. If you don't.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Because they don't got to worry about being cheated on behind their back.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly, bro. So the thing is, girls accept what they respect. So when they accept it because they respect it, that's it.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

So the thing is, like, you'll see a bunch of girls being okay. There's like a clip going viral where it's like, hey, would you rather be with a rich guy but he cheats on you or be with a broke dude but he's completely loyal, head over heels, and loves you all his heart? I choose the rich guy. Not because he has money. It's just the fact that, you know, there's other things about him that she, she'll accept.

[Unknown Host]

Right.

[Logan Wong]

And so girls will accept. And they don't mind sharing an alpha male. Right? Girls don't mind sharing alpha male. And if you ask a girl, hey, would you rather share an alpha or stay completely loyal with the beta, they're always gonna say, I'd rather share an alpha. Right? So it is what is. Yeah, you ask any girl, any, any girl that has been with a guy that she really likes, she's gonna be okay with sharing him with other girls. And the way to set it up as a guy, though, is for me, I did the Dan was there approach. Like, I approached it like hey, this is what I want. You know, I got a relationship. I was like, yo, I know what I want now. I know what I'm looking for in a girl, Whatever. And so I told her, yo, like, you know, if you want to be taken serious by me, you want to be in a serious relationship with me, you know, one you can't have guy friends. Can't be having social media.

[Unknown Host]

Not even guy friends.

[Logan Wong]

No guy friends, no social media. So she deleted her social media.

[Unknown Host]

Wow.

[Logan Wong]

You know, and you know, no whole friends either, right? I told her, yo, if you want to be with me, you know, I'm going to take care of you, whatever. You know, I'm a love you. But these are my requirements, These are my standards. Because I understand that when a girl has social media, what is that she's advertising to other men that she is single or she's open or she's looking for the another lineup. The thing is about a girl having guy friends. Each single guy friend is a guy that she has fucked, the guy that she will fuck or guy that she's currently fucking. That's the thing about a girl who has guy friends and they use as a plan B and a backup option, I'll ask you a question, is who are you going to be more committed to? Are you more committed to the girl that you are only talking to? Or you mean more committed to a girl where you have other girls on the side and you have other options only talking to? Exactly. So girls feel the same way. It's like, yo, I want the most commitment out of a girl. How do I get that? Get rid of social media, get rid of the guy friends. Because here's thing, that's even divorce rates, you think the divorce would be as high as is now if girls weren't incentivized to get money?

[Unknown Host]

Mmm.

[Logan Wong]

Girls are getting paid to get divorced. Imagine if there's a, hey, you actually lose money if you get divorced. You actually don't get the kids if you get divorced. You think divorces are gonna be way less. Exactly. So the thing is like they're getting incentivized to, to have other options to be, to move on quicker. It's not good. It's not good for anyone. And the thing is like, I'm like, if she's cool and I'm cool, we're gonna stay together. Thing is about girls, bro, is they can have everything under the sun. But if, for whatever reason, if you are not leading the way ship, you can be the best guy for her. You provide for whatever but if you're not leading, you're not invoking her emotions, she's gonna walk away. No guy's gonna do that, bro. Every guy. If a girl is chill, she doesn't have to evoke no emotions. She could just be chilling, not gonna leave her. If she doesn't cause any headaches, we're not gonna leave her.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Logan Wong]

That's the difference between guys and girls, is, like, girls naturally need these things. Guys, we don't need those things, right? Like, we can just talk to a girl, be in a relationship with her. She can be chill. And we're like, all right, this is dope. It's just not how it works. Yeah, I wish. I wish.

[Unknown Host]

No, I've seen Myron talk about this, where girls initiate divorce way more than guys, right?

[Logan Wong]

Oh, 100%. Yeah, 75 or some shit like that is like 75% of divorces are initiated by women or some shit. Damn.

[Unknown Host]

Like, most nuts.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Because they just get bored, right?

[Logan Wong]

They get bored, bro. I don't know. I don't know. Any guy that's talked that's been like, you know what this girl is? This girl cooks for me. She didn't talk to anyone else, and she loves me so much. Ah, man, I'm just gonna divorce her. No, no. You never heard that ever before, bro. No guy has ever. But I guarantee, bro, I've heard this from girls all the time. You know, he was perfect. He was great with the kids. Oh, he loved me so much. But, man, I just had to go fuck the other dude, bro. You hear? All the time, bro. It's sad. It's. It's fucked up. That's why a lot of guys go deep in this red pill shit. Because they're like, oh, fuck, I hate women. Or, you know, this pisses me off.

[Unknown Host]

What's your take on the red pill stuff?

[Logan Wong]

You know, some of it's good. It's truthful, but it's not the solution. Right, Right. This is a problem, problem, problem. Like, oh, you know, these are all problems. But what's the solution to this? How can we actually do something with it? And that's one thing is, like, the red pill is a lot of problem awareness, which is dope, right? But there's not a lot of solutions. And so it gets guys stuck and just focusing. I hate women. I hate women because they do this, this, that true. But there's other things you could do to win, right? And so I'm not mad. It's like, okay, cool. Girls are much easier to Move on. And they're only loyal to their emotions. Okay, then I'm going to do everything in my power to invoke as much emotions and get the most out of it as well. Right? Okay, cool. If I make you feel good, then, and you want to keep talking to me, then you can't be having social media. Right? Right. So cool. I make you feel good. You want to be in relationship with me. Well, you can't have guy friends. It's not saying, like, I'm making them do it. It's more of a yo, you like me. You like the feelings I give you. You like the relationship that we're in. If you want this to continue, these are my standards, these are my boundaries. That's how I lay it out with girls. And that's why I get what I want, basically.

[Unknown Host]

You're never getting married?

[Logan Wong]

No, no. The thing is, maybe back in like 100 years ago, 200 years ago, when marriage was like, I don't know, like, not tied down by the government and like, the government didn't have their fingers everywhere in it then. Yeah. But dude, the government has there. Has their fingers in it. And it's. It's weird now because, like, girls now incentivized to get divorced and to take the kids and, you know, it's just too much of a headache. I'd rather just tell her, yo, we're married.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, you're my wifey. Cool. That's better than like actually legally getting married.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Also, 120 years ago, a lot of the wives were virgins.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, that too, bro. Yeah, so it's like now we're like paying over price. It's like whole inflation paying over price for the same thing.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, These body counts just disturbed me. I see videos every day about it.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, and that's the thing. I made a video, right? I made a video talking about, you know, how men and women are valued, and I got canceled for it back in high school. And I said, men are valued based upon their power, success, and status. Right? But here's the catch. We start out down here, girls start up here, right? But here's the catch for girls. Women are based upon their ethics, their morals, and their values. And so women are born up here, men are born down here. And over time, women can go down by losing their morals, ethics, and values. And men can go up by building their power, status, and success. So girls are born as queens, guys are born as slaves, Right? But there's inverse is guys can actually build their value, but they're born as nothing. And girls are born value, but they could lose their value. And so that's the catch, is the girls that sleep with a bunch of dudes, they do a bunch of drugs, they're out partying and showing their titties and ass on TikTok and all these other places, they're lowering their value, right? The reason why girls keep doing it, though, is because a rapper celebrity sleeps with them and now they think, oh, well, I'm having sex with him. So this is. I'm still winning. Like, no, he's not going to marry you, though. Yeah, he's not going to take you serious. There's a difference, right? And guys know this, but girls don't know this. They've been lied to. And so they think sleeping with a guy who's rich or successful or whatever is cool. This is dope. Like, okay, here's the catch, though. Watch. When you want to get married to them, they're not going to want to marry you. And that's when girls hit the wall, right? When girls are young, right? When they're 20, 25, 26, 27, they're having fun, it's all cool. Watch when they want to sell down, start having kids, right? All those guys that they slept with don't want to. Don't want to marry them. They don't want to take them seriously. And that's when girls hit the wall and realize, oh, fuck, I shouldn't have went to college. I shouldn't have wasted time partying and sleeping with a bunch of dudes. I should have actually spent my 20s looking for the right guy because it.

[Unknown Host]

Gets harder as they get older, too.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. And guys, the thing is, guys, we hit the wall, like, pretty much as soon as possible. Yeah, we hit the wall at like 20, when we realized, oh, fuck, you know, staying where I'm at, you know, working at McDonald's, you know, not doing what I want and not chasing after my dreams. I'm not going to get to where I want to be. Dude, we hit the wall fast as fuck, right? We realize, oh, fuck, girls aren't going to like us if we act like Simps. We get destroyed when we act like Simps. So we hit the wall very, very soon. All of us have had our heartbreaks at, like, at least 16, 17, 18, right? So we hit the wall. We realize things aren't working. Girls don't hit that wall because girls are gonna. Girls can just exist and they'll be winning 16, 17, 18, 19, all the way till they're like 25 they're getting to the clubs for free. They're having sex with a bunch of famous dudes. They're gonna. They're gonna hit up and flown out to Dubai. Yeah, right? And they don't do anything, so they don't really see the wall until what they want, they can't get.

[Unknown Host]

Mm, that's so true.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

You mentioned kids earlier. Is that something you ever want? Kids?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, yeah, I want a bunch of kids. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I want a bunch of kids. I'm probably have some now. I don't know where they're at. We'll see. Tate.

[Unknown Host]

Tate wants 20 guys. Yeah, 20 guys. And then he already has some daughters, so he'll probably have, like, 25, 30 kids.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Host]

That's a lot.

[Logan Wong]

That's not.

[Unknown Host]

Elon's at 14. I think I want, like, three, dude.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Anything past tens. A lot.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, it is a lot, bro. That is a lot.

[Unknown Host]

But with your method, it's doable. But since I'm with. I'm with one girl. I mean, yeah, three kids is a lot for one woman to carry, so.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, we got. We got to get some more girls.

[Unknown Host]

I need to know how you negotiated this, man. Like, this. Has one girl ever acted out, lashed out?

[Logan Wong]

Well, they don't lash out. The thing is like. Like, the thing is, there's been some girls that walked away, though, and that's okay. Yeah, right. It's like some girls are just not with it. They're not down with it, and that's completely fine. That's cool. Right? And that's what you have to be willing to lose. Right? But thing is, a lot of guys, oh, my God, I'm so afraid to lose a girl. Oh, my God. I don't want to do that. I want. I don't want to make her mad. It's like, bro, that's thinking from a scarcity. Here's the thing is, like, even when that doesn't actually happen and you just think of abundance, like, hey, I'm gonna do what I want. I'm gonna get what I want, whatever, and everything's gonna be cool. You tend to win more when you're already thinking in a bad position. You tend to fuck yourself over and shoot yourself in the foot. So it's already. You're shooting yourself way too soon down. Like, you don't want to do that. Right? So always thinking from abundance is, hey, always act. And whenever I'm coaching a guy and they ask me about a girl problem, I'm texting this girl I'm calling her whatever and she's not responding or oh, my girlfriend's doing this, what do I do? And I'm like, okay, if you had 10 other girls, would you give a fuck? No. The answer is always no. Because like, well, let me think about this. If I had 10 other girls, would I really care about if this girl's not texting me? No. That's abundance.

[Unknown Host]

Right?

[Logan Wong]

Right now the cool skill you could have is to actually have that abundance without having to have 10 girls. If you could naturally have that abundance about needing 10 girls, that's cool, right? So if you could automatically like put that into your mindset that hey, I always have other options. Because you do, bro. There are more girls out there than you, than you can actually physically approach. There are more women out there, more attractive women than you can actually approach. If you went to go approach girl every single minute, you wouldn't even be able to talk to all of them.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

So it's real. The abundance is real. Girls automatically know this abundance too. Girls already, already have this abundance mindset. Well, they already live in it, but they already have this abundance, somewhat delusional mindset all the fucking time. They're just programmed with it and it works for them. Right. The thing is for guys is a lot of guys have self limited beliefs. They don't believe they can do it. They don't believe that I am enough. And that's the issue is like they don't believe that they're enough. They don't believe that, hey, they are the prize if they make themselves the prize. Not just saying you're the prize, but if you actually make yourself the prize, you put in the work, right. And that you are valuable. A lot of guys don't believe that. And you know, it's sad to see, but I'm telling you, once you fix your mindset, once you fix these things, everything else changes. The second I started believing in myself more, the second I started to believe in what I did, everything started to get better. Right? And so self belief is, is, is absolutely huge.

[Unknown Host]

That confidence is a game changer.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, that's confidence. That's. You ask any girl, what do you like in a guy? Confidence. Yeah. Every single time.

[Unknown Host]

You could look hideous. But if you have confidence and you're. You can make them laugh.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly. Yeah. You can't be a puss. You can't. The thing is, girls always gonna shit test too for your confidence. And so even if I say I'm a confident dude and I go out with a chick and she shit tests me and I fail. You're not really confident. Right?

[Unknown Host]

Right.

[Logan Wong]

And girls test me all the fucking time. Because they'll watch these videos and they'd be like, oh, so you like talking to multiple girls? And they'll shit test me. I'm like, yeah, I do. Yeah. You know, it's like little things like that. It's like they're always going to shit test you. They're always going to tease you or whatever to try to piss you off. Try to, you know, to just test you to see what you're really made of. And girls are naturally programmed with this and never stop testing. Every single married guy I talk to, they're always like, oh, my God, my wife is back at it with the testing and the bullshit, whatever. I'm like, bro, the reason why they do this is because they want to make sure and they want to test your strength. They want to feel comfortable being around a man that knows who he is and doesn't give a fuck and doesn't get pushed off his center. When a girl can push you off of your center, make you weak and make you upset, make you insecure, right? If a girl told me, oh, you're short, and I was like, oh, okay, so you don't like me. That's being insecure. When a girl tells me I'm short, I'm like, well, your friends love my height, bro. I don't care. It doesn't affect me because I have such, you know, a strong belief and confidence in myself. I don't care. When you don't care, you start to become more successful. And you guess what? The person who cares the least has the most power. And this is why it's very, very important. Going back to the nice guy asshole thing. Like, the guys who care the least have the most power. That's why girls are attracted to them, right? And girl never wants to feel like she has more power than you. She feels like she has more power than you. She bounces.

[Unknown Host]

Because they're in their masculine energy.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly. Yeah. Power is not a feminine thing. Power is a very masculine thing. Right. Feminine energy is all about nurturing, caring, right? And relationships. So when guys move into their feminine, right, when they start calling and texting and reaching out to the girls a bunch, when the guy starts asking, yo, what are we? When the guy starts asking, yo, can we be boyfriend and girlfriend? Right? He's moving into his feminine. He starts care about nurturing, loving and relationships, he moves into his feminine. That's gonna turn a feminine woman off. Feminine women Want a guy who's masculine. Masculine energy is all about drive, purpose and mission, right? And this is why girls love guys who are on that. On those things, right? So assholes, for example, I wouldn't say being an. We're keep talking about this, but, like, the reason why the girl prefers the asshole over the nice guy is because he has more masculine dominant traits than the nice guy. Not saying he's perfect, however, right? What? There's more. There's more perfect things than being an asshole, however, he has just more attractive traits, right? The fact that he doesn't give a fuck about what anyone thinks, right? He could just move on. Doesn't care, like, about what the girl thinks, whatever. And he has other options, right? He's not afraid to be an asshole to her. And so the reason why she finds that more attractive because she trusts it more, right? It's more authentic than the guy who's like, oh, my God, I'll do anything for you. And she. And he simps for her, trying to send her money, whatever that is. Like begging and trying to buy her, you know, attention and sex or whatever. That comes off unnatural as fuck. The asshole is just coming off more natural and that's why he's more attractive.

[Unknown Host]

So could you date a woman that had an attitude?

[Logan Wong]

No, I don't talk to girls. There's been so many times where I've been on a date with a chick and she starts pulling out some attitude. I know her. And it's. Maybe it's a test, maybe it's real. Maybe she has some issues, whatever. And she starts freaking out about something, like, all right, cool, I'm just gonna drop you off. And she'd be like, why? Why? What's happening? What's wrong? I'm like, no, I just don't have time for this. That's it. Yeah, I move on. And then she always hits me up later. She's like, oh, why'd you drop me off? Why are we still. Are you still cool with me? Do you like me? What's wrong? Hey, like, you know, we can meet up, we hang out. If you fix your attitude, right? Once you fix your attitude, we can meet up, we have some fun, right? But I'm not going to hang out with you if you have a bad attitude. If you have, you know, whatever going on. My life, I try to make my life drama free as fuck, bro. Like, drama free as fuck. That's why I am super honest with everyone about everything. It's no longer, like, trying to lie or trying to finesse like, dude, this is what I want this one looking for, and that's it. And so any girl tries to cause trouble or whatever, sorry, get out of my life. That's it.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, you got to protect your peace, man. Dude, because we got a lot of shit to do during the day. We don't want to be coming home and dealing with other fires.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly, bro. Yeah. When you're. When you're focused on other bigger things, like, bro, the last thing I worry about is some chick cause a bunch of drama. She should be at least some sort of piece, cooking you food, you know, helping you out, doing the dishes. Like, those are the things that guys really, really love. And I give this girl, Give us the girls all the time about that shit, dude. If you want to keep a guy, you want that celebrity, whatever, bro. These are the things you got to do. Cook, clean, xyz, all these things. And they're like, oh, I don't want to do that. All right, then have fun being a cat lady.

[Unknown Host]

I got to hear about your conversation with your Asian parents on how you convinced them about this lifestyle.

[Logan Wong]

Oh, man. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, my dad, right? And my mom, obviously, you. Even when I was, like, wanting to be an entrepreneur and probably YouTube, bro, is like. They're like, oh, but it's risky. Oh, but you know that you need. You should go to college. You should go do something else, right? The thing is, I did listen to them, right? I joined the military just because my dad was like, yo, you have to either join the military or go to college.

[Unknown Host]

Damn.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. And I was like, all right, I'll join the military. Fuck it. I also like the military, too. Look, it looked dope, right? It's not what it actually is, though. It's kind of a scam.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, is it?

[Logan Wong]

Oh, 100%. And we could do another podcast, some of that shit, too, but it's not what it is, right? And the thing is, I know so many guys who've gone to college just because their parents told them to, right?

[Unknown Host]

It's like, especially Asians.

[Logan Wong]

Oh, 100. Yeah, you gotta be a doctor or some shit. It's like, bro, what the fuck? The thing is, we've realized now, but there's other ways, but they don't see that, and that's okay, right? But the thing is, as a dude, you have to be able to do what you want to do despite the consequences and good and bad, right? And there's consequences everything you do in entrepreneurship, especially. And when I told them, I want to be entrepreneur, I want to do this, you know, they're like, oh, that's risky. Whatever. I just had to show them. You just have to show them. And now once I'm. Once I'm successful, once I'm getting billions of views, now they're like, okay, you should keep. Oh, we always support you. It's like, oh, of course he did. Of course. Yeah. So that's how it is. That's how parents.

[Unknown Host]

That's how mine was, too.

[Logan Wong]

You can't get mad at them. It is. What is? I. Even if I was in their shoes, bro, I'd be like, I would be telling my kids the same shit.

[Unknown Host]

Because it worked for them.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. But it's a new era now.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Social media.

[Logan Wong]

And so even with the girls, though, it's like my. My parents, you know, Girl, I got caught by my dad so many times sneaking girls. And the thing is, bro, like, When I was 16, 17, I was on Tinder.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

And this is how I got good with girls, actually, is I was meeting up and matching with girls who were 20, 21, 22 in college. Cougars. Yes, bro. Cougars to me. Yeah, because you had to be 18.

[Unknown Host]

I thought, on Tinder. Did you lie about your age?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. 16, 17. Girls do all the time, too, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

And So I put 16, 70. I treated it as a game, bro. Dude, I had girls picking me up from school, and because they had. I didn't have a car back then, but I had visions picking me up from school, you know, I had girls like, you know, taking me to places, whatever, because I don't have a car. So I was like, okay, all the girls my age don't have cars. Girls who are in college have cars. Then you start talking to these girls, and plus, they were more fun, you know, and they. They had more access to stuff. They could bring me to bars and clubs. I got exposed to a lot of this stuff at a really, really young age because I hung. I was hanging out with older chicks that just, you know, brought me into cool parties, whatever. And some of us, we were just friends. Some of us were just hooking up, whatever. But, yeah, that was a. That was a pretty interesting thing. And, like, I also kind of went viral on that, too. It was like a thing because all my guy friends back. Back in high school, they're like, oh, how the fuck you doing this? What the fuck? And I just put them all in the method of getting Tinder, Bumble and social media stuff, and they're all grinding out, too. And it worked for them, too. And so I got A lot of experience doing that stuff when I was younger. I don't advise guys do that now if they're young. Just because social media is not even worth your time, bro. The day apps are so booked. When I was on Tinder at 16, 17, and I was like 2015 or some shit, it was so prime. Tinder, Bumble Hinge, all these amps were so fucking good, bro. Now you literally have to be the top, top 0.1% of dudes to actually get some matches.

[Unknown Host]

What caused that, you think?

[Logan Wong]

Well, there's more. Where's way more guys on day amps? And girls, that's for sure. Um, and girls only swipe on like one out of like every fucking 20 guys that they see.

[Unknown Host]

Damn.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. And so it's opposite for guys. Guys are mostly swiping a bunch of chicks. So that's the difference. Also, if you want another tip for guys on the dating apps as well, is the reason why your score. And they actually score you on these dating apps. So to get a higher score on dating apps, which basically a higher score gets you seen in front of more people. Yeah, girls, if you're hot, you're automatically, even if you're a mid girl, you're getting a bunch of a higher score because everyone's swiping on you as a guy. Guys are gonna be swiping on these bitches all the time. But for a guy to raise your score, you obviously have to be swiped on by a lot of attractive women or just a lot of women in general. Right. But what also lowers your scores by swiping on a bunch of people. Because the score actually determines is determined by how many people you're swiping on too.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, wow.

[Logan Wong]

Yes. Your score lowers if you swipe on a bunch of people. Because guess what? They know that attractive people aren't liking everyone. Right. Because people only like people. People at their level are higher. Right, Right. And so if you're a hot guy, right, you're only gonna be swiping on hot girls or nothing else. And so if you wanna build your score, especially when you're first starting a dating app, only swipe on like one out of every ten girls you see. It sounds so low. But you start doing that for like a month or whatever, you're only gonna start matching with super hot chicks or you're gonna start being seen by a lot of hotter women.

[Unknown Host]

That's good.

[Logan Wong]

Girls. Yeah, dude, that's, that's prime. So that shit's fire. I always did that stuff. And like for, for guys who are, you know, not used to social media or dating apps or whatever. Like, you have to be posting good quality pictures. Check out my Instagram. Check out your Instagram. Whatever. Learn how to, you know, actually be okay with being in front of the camera. Stop being so awkward from the camera. Right? Because this is something you have to be good at, and it's very, very important.

[Unknown Host]

Absolutely.

[Logan Wong]

So, yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Is there a limit on a woman's body count for you to date them?

[Logan Wong]

There's no specific number. Obviously. If it's like, past fucking 10, that shit's crazy to me. And obviously, there's girls out there with, like, what, like a thousand?

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, a thousand in a day.

[Logan Wong]

Crazy, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Bonnie, crazy.

[Logan Wong]

Xp, bro. Yeah, for me, it's like, you know, it honestly really depends on, like, obviously, we know that girls who have higher body counts are a lot more desensitized to things, right? Like, you can't really even evoke their emotions anymore. Sex is nothing to them. And so it really just depends, right? Is like, are you talking to a girl that has a lot of issues? Does she have daddy issues? The thing is, I don't really care about body count. I care about the deeper lying issues. Daddy issues. Does she have a bad relationship with her parents? Right? Because the thing is, dude, every single girl you talk to has a huge body count. You ask him, how's the relationship with your father? Oh, I hate him. Oh, I don't even know him. Oh, he's fucking dead. Oh, whatever the fuck. Oh, he beat my mom. Like, it's some crazy shit. Every single time a girl has a bunch of issues, it always stems from the family. Even for us, bro. A lot of our issues stem from our family, too.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, no, I had mommy issues, bro. You know?

[Logan Wong]

Exactly. So our issues stem from our parents, too. And I care about more about that than anything else. Right? Because that's gonna figure out a bunch of other things. Body counter is one part of it. I can figure out the deeper lying issue. I'll be able to figure out a bunch of other stuff of, like, cool. Is this girl more fun to play with or more fun to date? And you have to understand, there's two different types of girls, bro, that are gonna be fun. Some girls are just fun to date, and some girls are just.

[Unknown Host]

You got two buckets.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly. Yeah. And the issue with guys is they treat the girls that are fun to play with like the wifeies, right? And they get fucked over hard. You have to treat them differently, bro. And when. The thing is, when you treat a girl likes to have fun. And a girl who is meant for fun, too serious, she's going to walk over you, she's not going to treat you like, with respect, she's not going to take you seriously, whatever. And so overall, though, actually, girls don't like being taken seriously at all overall. Right. When a guy starts to take a girl seriously, he starts to actually give a fuck about what she says and it allows her words to affect him. That guy is, in her eyes, weak. Right. So if a girl can say or do anything to emotionally affect you, you're weak because a guy who has options, a guy who's abundant and a guy who is sure about himself wouldn't care.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

Right. Now, it doesn't mean you don't set boundaries and standards, but it means like whatever shit test she does, it doesn't affect you. And even like with. With a girl making fun of your looks, your height, anything about you, you just can't care about it. You always have to be playful. And that's the thing is learning how to just be playful and not giving a fuck is alpha. When are you. When a girl contests a guy and she can make fun of a guy, or she could try teasing a guy and he doesn't give a fuck, she's like, fuck yeah hot. Because she can't do anything to control him. Women want mastery over a man that cannot be mastered. That's a quote from Stefan Arnio, and it's a super powerful quote because girls are always going to be trying to do things to get master over a man. She's only trying to do things, oh, stop hanging out with your boys, stop going out, stop doing these things, right? That make you you. And if you do those things, you actually listen to her. Which we've seen a lot of guys, our friends, that we've lost in the past to simping, right? Guys who start doing all the things that she says and then she starts to disrespect him, she starts to treat him less and then eventually she divorces him or cheats on him. So that's the catch, is women want mastery over men that cannot be mastered.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

And what that means is girls always gonna be trying to do these things and it's this forever loop. But girls want to tame this beast. And once they tame the beast, she doesn't want them anymore. And so you always have to be the beast that can't be tamed. You always have to be the man that cannot be mastered. Right. You always have to be him. Right. And that's the thing Is a lot of guys, they get the girl and they give up. They think the mission's over.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, bro.

[Logan Wong]

You're in a world for a lot of hurt and suffering. If you believe that just getting the girl and you got a relationship with the girl, everything is over.

[Unknown Host]

That's the first step.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, right.

[Unknown Host]

There's a lot more after that.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. The bigger side is always your mission purpose. That's. And the thing about your mission purpose is it never really ends.

[Unknown Host]

Right. It's still trying to figure mine out.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. It always keeps evolving.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

Like, my mission purpose, like, fiverr, is way different, you know, it always keeps evolving and changing, growing and. Right. And so when you think that, oh, you know, this is it. This is the goal. Like, no, dude, I have a bunch of people talking to me, hitting me up on screen. Oh, you made it, bro. You got the supercar. It's like, no, dude, like, to me, I didn't make it. To them, they made it. Right. If they had it. But to me, it's like, no, there's so much more I need to accomplish.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that's just one goal, right?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, that's just one of the things.

[Unknown Host]

Conquer the world out here.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, exactly, bro. We're trying to take over the world.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. A lot of simps, man. That's why of crushes it the way it does, if we're being honest.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

You know, these girls are making stupid money. I've had a lot of them on the show.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, I talk about this too. It's like, I don't even get mad at onlyfans girls. I get mad at the simps, bro, Is because onlyfans wouldn't exist if Simpson exists.

[Unknown Host]

Right.

[Logan Wong]

The only reason why onlyfans exist because guys are giving it money. Don't get mad at the onlyfans chicks, bro. If girls were giving me money for, you know, doing what they're whatever the fuck, and it was just giving me money, money, money, I was like, fuck it, okay. I'll just keep doing it. Yeah, why not? Thing is, it's not how it works for guys, though. But for girls, bro, they're getting sent a bunch of money. A bunch of simps are giving money for doing whatever. That's the reason why it exists. And so that's why I talk so heavily on men, too, is like, you know, I have a bunch of videos talking about girls and how they can improve. But especially for guys, bro. Most guys are fucking simps. Sending girls a bunch of money, giving girls a bunch of their time, energy and attention for Free, right? A lot of the guys on Onlyfans, they're not only giving away their money, they had to work for that money. So they're giving away their time. They're giving away their attention too. Because now they're paying attention to this chick and they're giving away for free. When you give these things away from for free, you lower your value. That is low value activity, that is beta male activities. Like when you do these things for free with nothing in return, you are just. You're a loser, bro. That's it. You're just, you're a loser. And the thing is, you cannot give out these things unless you're given something in return. I don't let, I don't give attention to any girls unless they give me something in return. I don't even get girls sex unless, hey, is the clothes folded? Is laundry done? Is there a sandwich ready? Right? Those are the things, like when you give girls too much too soon for free without them doing anything, they don't respect it. The reason why girls don't respect so many guys, because so many guys are hitting them up. So many guys are doing all these things, messaging, calling them all the time. Girl's like, I didn't even do anything. Why the would she respect him, right? Why the is she gonna care about him? She's not. So it's very, very important for a guy to, to withhold his energy, right? We talk about peace, right? And the thing is you can only give those things away. You only give away your energy, give away your power. Thing is, guys just give it away for free because guys are told to. It's like, hey bro, buy the girl flowers, call the girl all the time and do all these things. Simp for her and you'll, you'll get her, brother. Fuck no. It's a scam. That's a Hollywood lie. It's a Hollywood lie. It's fucking lie in the media and from feminism that guys are being told to give away all their resources, give the girl all your time, because that's what, that's what good guys do. It's a fucking lie, bro. You do that shit, you're gonna walked over, gonna cheat on. Yeah, fuck the dude that doesn't even care about her in front of you or some crazy shit. Hear about it all the time. So you don't want to be that guy. And so many guys learn the hard way they keep being lied to. And even your own family is sometimes the biggest liars too, bro. And they don't know it though. But even your mom. I know a lot of guys who suck. Women, they didn't grow up with a father figure. They only grew up around their mom and their sister. And when you ask girls for advice, what do they tell you? They give you advice on how to basically become a guy that a woman can manipulate every single time. When you ask a girl for advice, she's going to give you advice that is based upon her feelings, not based upon what works. No girl's going to tell you, okay, you got to be an asshole. You got to. You gotta ignore her. You gotta do this. This no girl's gonna fucking tell you that, ever.

[Unknown Host]

No shot.

[Logan Wong]

Even your mom or your sister, because they want to tell you what they want to hear, too. That's why. Asking advice from girls. That's why I hate female dating coaches.

[Unknown Host]

Because they fuck Saudia Khan.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. I do not like female dating coaches at all because the advice that they give is so emotional. It's very rare when a girl can actually think from a man's perspective. It's basically impossible. Okay? So when a girl's giving advice, they're giving advice based upon how they feel. If you ask any girl, what do you look for in a man? Oh, I want a guy who's nice, who treats me right. You know, he doesn't try hooking up with my friends. You know, he only talks to me. Okay, cool. I'm gonna give you this guy right now. He's boring because she has mastery over him. Like we talked about earlier, when you have mastery over men, it becomes boring. She moves on the next thing. And so the guy that she has mastery over is the beast that got tamed, right? And so you have to be that guy that cannot be tamed, the guy that cannot be mastered.

[Unknown Host]

When guys get cheated on and they come to you for advice, what do you tell them?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, so when a guy comes to me for advice, you know, what I ask him is, what are you trying to get out of it? Right? Are you trying to get the girl back? Are you. You know, what's your goals? And most of the time, when the guy comes to me saying, yo, my girl cheated on me, what do I do? It's more of like, so if the guy has some respect, at least, he's like, yeah, I want to get revenge on her or something, right? And if the guy's retarded, he's like, okay, I want to get her back. The guy that I tell that to, the guy I tell that wants to get her back after she cheated on him is like, bro, you're a cuck. Okay? Number one, you're cuck. Number two, she doesn't want you because she already chose another guy. She doesn't want you, bro.

[Unknown Host]

There's no coming back from.

[Logan Wong]

Even if a girl starts seeking attention, validation, I. I think cheating starts way before she actually sees another guy. She started cheating when she was already texting the guy, right? She's already cheating when she's posting booty pics on Instagram and getting likes from other guys. That's where I see the cheating, right? And so the cheating starts way before it actually fucking happens, right? There's a. There's a lot of steps, right? She has to somehow meet the guy, get his number, then she has to text him, then she has to call him, and then they have to meet up, and then they have to make out. And there's, like, so many steps in between until it actually happens. Like, bro, there's so many times where you could have stopped it. So it's always the guy's fault. I actually blame cheating on the guy's fault. Right, because if a girl cheats on you, you allowed her to. Why the fuck are you in a relationship with this girl? Why are you even talking to this girl? Because I could point out so many problems this guy didn't see. I'll ask the guy, okay, let's go chee on you. Whose fault is it? He'll be like, oh, it's hers. Like, no, bro, it was yours. Because you got a relationship with her. He'd like, well, I didn't see it coming. I didn't see the red flag. Okay, cool. What was her issue with her dad like? Well, she didn't have a dad. Okay, boom. Right? You could have paid attention to that. Did she have social media? Yeah, she has social media. Okay, boom, another one. Okay. Did she have hoe friends? Yeah, they were always going out, taking her to the club. Okay, boom, another one. So there's so many things where it's the guy's fault for not paying attention, taking these girls seriously. And so that's why I tell the guy, look at all these things that you fucked up on. I don't even give a fuck about the girl. I care about what you're fucking up on. Because here's the thing. I could cope and help him cope and be like, oh, it's okay, bro. She cheated on you. You'll just find another one. She wasn't the right one for you. And then he goes to another girl, and she does the same thing. That guy can actually meet a most perfect girl. A princess, an angel, a virgin. And if he acts the way he does, she'll still cheat on him.

[Unknown Host]

Wow.

[Logan Wong]

100%. Because girls are trainable, right? And girls are followers. Men are leaders. So without realizing, even going back to the OnlyFans and simping, girls are being led by men. Why? Because men are giving them money, attention and validation. So men are subconsciously, without knowing, leading the women to doing these things because they're giving them money. If all the men stopped paying money, guess what? They wouldn't keep doing it. No girl will be the only fans anymore.

[Unknown Host]

And now there's 1.2 million girls on OnlyFans.

[Logan Wong]

Exactly. So men, Men are always leading subconsciously or consciously. And no matter what, men are always leading something, right? Girls are naturally followers, okay? Girls are going to follow either society. They're going to follow a strong man. Right now, they're just following society, right? My girls follow me. Obviously, your girls follow you. But the girls who don't follow anyone, they just follow society. Whatever society has, whatever programming they have, whatever brainwashing they have, the girls are going to follow them and is what is. They're going to follow whatever beliefs they have. Because unless a girl finds a strong man that she can actually follow and trust and submit to, she's not going to. She's only going to listen to society, okay? Even her family, too. Women don't listen to their family or the Bible, whatever, or religion. They follow society. So whatever society says is okay. They're going to listen to or a strong man. This goes back to caveman days, right? So if you were in a tribe and the girls and the guys listen, listen to society and listen to the tribe, you would survive. You would be okay. The tribe would take care of you. Now, as a man, you can actually leave the tribe and take care of yourself. You can survive because you're a man. You actually can. You can fight, you can hunt, you can do these things. Women cannot. So this goes back to subconsciously. Women cannot leave the tribe and just survive on their own. They can't. Right? A guy can leave the tribe and start his own tribe. A girl cannot on her own. And so subconsciously, she's always been following because they understand on a subconscious level, they can't just do their own thing. They can't just survive on their own. They can't protect themselves, right? So they always need a strong man to follow or to submit to, right? And so it's always a strong man leaving first, and then, you know, the followers Follow him. Right?

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that makes sense. What's the number one mistake men do that kills their attraction instantly?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. Giving away too much interest, Showing too much interest, Giving away their mysteriousness, and not letting the girl play into the story. Right? And so when girls meet a guy and he tells the girl everything about him, what he does for work. So when a girl asks you, what do you do for work? It's a shit test, bro. Everything that comes out of a girl's mouth. Here's the thing. Quote from David Dita. Everything in life is either a test or celebration. Okay? So if she's not celebrating you, she's testing you. And guys don't even think, well, she asked me for work. That can't be. That can't be a shit test. It's is, bro. Because if you tell her, oh, I do xyz. I'm an entrepreneur. I do this. I do podcasting. I. I work for this business. I work for this company. Oh, cool. No. Girl's like, oh, my God, you're so. I want to suck your dick. When. As a girl and whenever you ever told a girl this, these things, she's like, oh, my God, you're so hot. I want to suck her dick. That doesn't happen. She's like, okay, cool, right? Versus I do a bunch of stuff. I have a lot of things going on. I make money with my boys. Right? It's like, well, so. So what do you do? I want. I want to know. You're gonna have to see. You have to wait and see. I'll show you eventually. Right? That's. That's part of the game. That's playing it mysterious. That's. That's giving the girl something to think about and to be curious about. Right? Right. She wants to. She wants to, you know, figure out over time. Right. When you give away all these things too soon, it's whatever, right? Of course. You do this with your. With girls you don't find attractive, whatever. And just tell them whatever. But that. Those little things that guys most, most definitely don't think about when a girl asks, like, how old are you? Right? Or, you know, what do you do for work? Or, you know, what do you like to do for fun? These are all shit tests. Oh, are you talking to other girls now? Guys, we think so logically. This is why we get fucked up. Because we give away our info too soon. Because we think so logically. And so naturally we're like, oh, well, I'm not talking to anyone else. Or, oh, yeah, we're talking to Other hoes. Whatever you say, that's going to turn it off. So you do in a way that is playful and mysterious, right? So when a girl asks you, are you talking to other girls? Well, I always have room for one more. So you don't know. You could be talking to zero, you're talking to five, right? Always say, hey, I always have room for one more. Right? The thing is, it leaves it like, okay, what is this guy about? How many girls is he actually talking to? Right? And so it leaves that mysteriousness. If you're too direct, you're thinking logically as a dude, you're gonna get cooked. Right? And so this is why a lot of, like, super smart, entrepreneurial guys we sometimes struggle with, because we're always thinking about numbers, we're thinking about business. Right? We're always thinking about being direct and just giving out info because it makes sense in our world. Social media world, whatever, it makes sense. But you try to carry that into dating relationships. That's where you're going to struggle. That's where you're going to see. Actually, I could have done this better or I could have made this move on the chessboard. That would have garnered me more affection, attention, and interest from the girl. So that's what I'm always looking at is like, how can I get more out of this interaction or this question? And going back to the thing is, every little thing that comes out of a girl's mouth is a shit test. Every single thing. Even when you guys are in a relationship, if she asks you a question, it's a shit test. You cannot take her seriously ever. When second you start answering these things, seriousness and taking it seriously, you start to become boring every single time. Because now you're predictable.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Would you ever go on that Pop the Balloon show?

[Logan Wong]

That's. Fuck, bro. I saw that one guy, he starts beeping with everyone.

[Unknown Host]

That guy? Yeah. I want to get him on the podcast.

[Logan Wong]

That'd be funny.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that dude's hilarious.

[Logan Wong]

Would you do that, too?

[Unknown Host]

I wouldn't. My girl would. Nah, I wouldn't. I want to see you on there, though. You crush it.

[Logan Wong]

Okay, I'll do it.

[Unknown Host]

I'll get you on.

[Logan Wong]

Okay, fuck it, let's do it.

[Unknown Host]

I think it's hilarious. It's like these girls, some of their standards are wild to me.

[Logan Wong]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, here's the thing is, like, even a girl tells, bro, I've been on dates with so many girls. Like, usually I only talk to guys who are much taller than me. I only talk to Guys who are like 6 foot. I only talk to guys who are super, super famous. Whatever. It's like, well, you're with me, so we'll have some fun. I don't, I don't care. It's always a shit test. It's like if they're always gonna be. Everything that comes out of their mouth is a test, bro. I don't care. Even the most. Even the top guys at the top, they're getting tested by their girls too, bro. It doesn't matter how. It never ends, bro. That never end. Every single guy at some level is getting tested by some chick every single time. Doesn't matter where you're at in life, you're always gonna be tested by some chick. You be the best guy, number one on planet, and some girl is still gonna test you. Yup, this is what it is, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Where could people find you and get coached by you, man?

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, so my website, logandwong.com. that's probably the safest place where I won't get banned.

[Unknown Host]

Are you banned on IG right now?

[Logan Wong]

Dude, I got banned on Instagram. I lost like 200k on TikTok YouTube shadow band too. The only place I'm not banned is Spotify. That's why I told you about Spotify. My Spotify podcast kills it.

[Unknown Host]

I feel like you're not even saying that controversial of things.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah, no, like, it's not even that crazy. Like, to us, it's not even that crazy. But to the. To the average person, what I say is crazy when I tell guys, yo, I have multiple girlfriends. My girl has my name tatted on her. She does everything I want. And she doesn't have social media. She doesn't have guy friends. Guys like, oh my God, that's crazy. I'm like, bro, it should be a standard for most guys. If you could get away with it and you could do it, do it right. And the thing is, that's the only way where a relationship's actually going to work. Like, I only want. That's my standard now. It's like, I only want girls who are head over heels in love with me. When I didn't know much about girls and I didn't really experience much about women, I didn't get the most out of them. I didn't really see it. Right. I didn't know that a girl can actually have these things about her or actually be head over heels in love with you. You know, everyone is always going to. If you've never smelled or seen a rose, I can't really describe it, right? And so for most guys, when you tell them these things, like, hey, you know, your girl shouldn't have these things, they're like, really? But everyone else has it. But, yeah, everyone else, because they're one fucking losers. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you tell guys these things and it's so, like, eye opening to them. It's like, oh, my God, this is crazy. This is a whole new world. Like, bro, this used to be natural. Like, this used to be normal. 50, you know, to 100 years ago, right? We just lost our way. We just went this completely different route. The pendulum swung this completely different way to simping and feminism. It used to be the complete opposite, bro. Way opposite. Everything is flipped. And so the things I say now are, you know, normal to us, but they're. They're very different and crazy to other people. And a lot people don't believe it. It's like, bro, follow my Instagram, check out. Check out my stories. See, I post testimonials all the time of myself, other people. Like, it's possible. And I want to show guys what's possible. Because if you don't see what's possible, you never seen or smelled the rose. Gonna be hard for me to explain. But I want to show guys what's possible because most guys think, well, I see guys talking about, oh, you have to get money to get girls. No, dude, no, you don't.

[Unknown Host]

You don't believe that.

[Logan Wong]

No, not at all. Not at all. It's. I was getting girls before I was rich. I was getting girls, you know, whenever I wanted to, right? And so the thing is, the only times where I didn't get girls is when I didn't believe in myself, is when I didn't believe that I was the catch. When I was not actually improving my life in any way. In any way, right? And when I was simping over chicks, right, and I was only taking one girl seriously, I started cutting off all my other options. That's when I started to lose. That's when I started to lose my options and my abundance and my value, right? And so. Or when I put, most importantly, a girl before my mission and purpose. When you put a girl before your mission purpose. Oh, my God, bro, you're cooked. Yeah, because now everyone. You lose respect from everyone. Especially when a guy. You've seen guys cut off their friends for a chick.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, I hate that, dude.

[Logan Wong]

They lose respect from everyone, especially the girl, the girl who wanted them to do it. They lose respect from everyone. They lose respect from the guy. Friends, their family, future business partners, and the girl.

[Unknown Host]

Everyone.

[Logan Wong]

Everyone, bro. Those guys always lose everyone. And because they are putting a woman before everything else. And when you do that, you're signifying to the world that she is up here above everything else. Above what you want and what you value, what you believe in. And girls, they hate that shit.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Then they break up six months later, and he tries to be friends with you again. I'm like, bro, I lost respect for you.

[Logan Wong]

Yeah. There's no come back, bro. No come back.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Logan Wong]

So, yeah, thanks for having me on, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. We'll link your stuff below. Thanks for coming, man. That was fun. Check him out, guys. See you next time.