C (5:39)

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B (6:47)

So I've tried to understand as much as I can and what it comes down to though, it's very simple. I mean you have to focus on the, on the three things you need to focus on, sleep, nutrition and exercise. And if you focus on sleep, nutrition, exercise, and you're really honed in on those things and you understand what you need to do to improve those things, then you say, okay, what supplements, what peptides, what, what routines can I improve and change? And as you do that, then you can really hone in your health and wellness.

C (7:24)

Yes, focus on those three before getting into stem cells and everything.

B (7:27)

Right, so, so, so when you look at like stem cells, peptides or any type of biologic, it's, it's an ad addition to what you're already, you're already doing. So, so stem cells, exosomes, peptides, any type of additional therapy that should be in addition to what you're already doing. So it's a supplement to good health, which was, includes nutrition, sleep and exercise. And I see all the time people want to.

B (8:00)

I mean you see in peptides a lot right now, Sean, you have people that want to just take a peptide and not have to exercise.

C (8:07)

Yeah, TRT.

B (8:07)

Yeah, TRT is an example. BBC 157 MK677. I mean there's a lot of different ones and they're, they do help as a supplement, but you still need the fundamental exercise you need to be exercising. Right. If you're not exercising, then you're, you're missing out on one of the three pillars.

C (8:28)

Right, so you don't like the Dave Asprey approach?

B (8:31)

Well, well, I don't know what Dave's I don't know what he does.

C (8:34)

Exercise.

B (8:35)

He doesn't exercise at all. Well, I would. I would say it'd be interesting to look at all of his mile markers and. Or his. His blood markers and see where it is. And you have to understand everyone's physiologic. Everyone's a little bit different. So, like, if you and I don't exercise, it might affect us differently than someone else. And so you have to make sure that you're looking at yourself individually and saying, okay, that might work for this person, but it doesn't work for me.

C (9:04)

Yeah, that's such a good point, because, like, people try to copy Brian Johnson.

B (9:07)

Yeah.

C (9:08)

But the dude's just his own dude. Like, it's his own body. Like, he can handle that many supplements.

B (9:13)

Right, right.

C (9:13)

Some people can't. Yeah.

B (9:14)

And so his liver might be better at processing so many things.

C (9:18)

Yeah, yeah. Cause he's on a lot of supplements.

B (9:20)

And it's. It's difficult, too, because you have people like that that are talking about certain things. I know, I know he's talked a lot about his nighttime erections and things like that, but he's also on Cialis. And so. Yeah, and so he's talked about that. But. But when you. You have to look at the data and say, okay, well, what's really happening? And I appreciate that he's actually out there pushing this idea of longevity, and it's important that we. We have that in our mind of how do we improve.

B (9:53)

Where we are? And so I appreciate that. I mean, Dave Asprey, I think he's. He's done a great job of helping people understand about, like, why you need to focus on health and certain things that can influence your body. But it's also hard when you. When you have so many of these people that are selling something and knowing, okay, is that really the best thing, or are they doing it to sell something?

C (10:17)

And you got to witness that firsthand. Right. Yeah, that. I guess, mission versus money tension.

B (10:23)

Yeah. Well, I mean, in business.

B (10:26)

I mean, through my career, Sean, I. I've unfortunately learned that most people will do what they can for money, not what's right. And that's a sad thing, because people have taken advantage of me and others for money. And I think that's. That's unfortunate, actually, is that people will do what they can for money, not maybe what's. What's the best thing for Mission or for the world, really.

C (10:57)

I mean, that's why big pharma is what it is.

B (10:59)

Yeah.

C (10:59)

It's for money.

B (11:00)

Yeah.

C (11:01)

You know, they put that before health, unfortunately.

B (11:03)

Yeah. And I. A lot of people say that they didn't used to be that way.

C (11:06)

Really?

B (11:07)

Yeah.

C (11:07)

Not in my lifetime. Not in yours, I don't think either.

B (11:10)

Probably not. Yeah.

C (11:10)

Yeah. I can't picture that, honestly.

B (11:12)

Well, I. I think. I don't think it's like with doctors. I feel like most doctors.

B (11:20)

Want to become a doctor because they do really want to help people.

C (11:24)

Yeah.

B (11:24)

But then they're put into a system that trains them a certain way, and when you're in. You're in that system, it's hard to. Hard to move out of that without causing problems.

C (11:37)

100%.

B (11:37)

Now, I feel like, at least here in the US there's starting to be some very good things happening. Legislation's changing. Lots of. Lots of very cool things are happening that way. But it's difficult, and it takes a very strong person to say, I'm gonna do something because it's right, not because it makes money.

C (11:57)

You had a massive injury at age 34, right. That's how you got into stem cells.

B (12:02)

Yeah. So, I mean, my. My stem cell journey is interesting. So I. I have what's called Osgood Schlatters, which is basically under your knee, you and your ligaments. You have some bone that comes out, and it. It basically becomes part of the ligament. So you have little bone islands in your. In your knee, underneath your kneecap. And so if you look at my knee now, I still have those. And if you did an mri, you'd see that I have bone fragments underneath, in the ligaments. And mine. Mine started swelling up, swell up, and it would hurt. Anytime I walked upstairs, I couldn't really run. Anytime we play basketball. Basketball, things like that, it would be sore afterwards. And so I went to two different orthopedics specialists, and I asked them, I said, what do I do and how can I deal with this? And both of them, independently, Sean, they both said, hey, we'll do the surgery. We cut open your knee, rip out the bones, and we sew it back up, and you'll be fine. And I said, okay, what does that mean? You'll be fine? And they said, well, you're on crutches for eight to nine months, and then. Then you're. You should be okay.

C (13:09)

Cheese.

B (13:09)

Now, this. This surgery. So I wouldn't research this. I like to look at the data, and I look at this, the research, and there's only 50% success rate. 50%. So. So they're saying, look, do the surgery. It's 40 to $50,000. I'm on crutches for eight to nine months and then there's only 50% chance of success.

C (13:31)

Wow.

B (13:32)

So I, I didn't feel comfortable with that. And I, I went and talked to another doctor friend of mine and he said, david, you should do stem cells. I said, well, what does that mean? What, what are stem cells? And he explained to me, and he said, well, they're, they're the best. Stem cells are from umbilical cord and placenta tissue. They're a neutral cell and they go into the body and go to where your body needs it. He says, we can inject it right in your knee and there's a good chance that it will help with inflammation. Oh, he was very clear too. He said, I'm not sure if it's going to work. And that gave me some assurance, actually, because he was very clear. He said, look, I'm not positive this is going to work, but if it doesn't help your knee, it'll go somewhere else in your body where it needs it. I said, okay, what does that take? And it was like 15 minute procedure, two simple injections, and then, you know, a few weeks later, so I went and got the procedure done. It was, I think it cost like $5,000. And he did the injection, no problem. And then I left and had 0 improvement for three weeks. 0. I mean, it actually probably hurt even more. And then week four, Sean, I woke up and all the pain was gone.

C (14:47)

Wow.

B (14:48)

It was, it was like instant. And I was blown away. I said, okay, well, that's amazing. Now I've done a lot of supplements I can formulate. I can look at any supplement in the back and tell you if you should eat it or take it or whatever. And sourcing is really important to me. So for me, I'd never seen anything, Sean, that can really effectuate change as quickly as I received.

C (15:17)

Yeah, that's super fast. Yeah.

B (15:18)

And, and, and what's interesting, Sean, is I still have these bone fragments in my knee. That was 10 years ago. Okay. 10 years ago. And to have something that impactful is, is truly amazing. And so when I look at.

B (15:36)

Biologics as a piece of, of your health and your health care, your, your, what you're trying to do with your body. I think biologics should absolutely be something people look at. They should not be afraid to ask questions. Unfortunately, most doctors, nurses, pas, dos, they don't do a lot of study or training on stem cells, exosomes, any biologics. And so there's this Real lack of understanding about what they do, what they can do. And with.

B (16:13)

George W. Bush, he put legislation in place here in the US that basically halted.

B (16:20)

A lot of the stem cell research happening in the U.S. so unfortunately, much of the good stem cell research that's happening is. It's very difficult to do here in the US and the FDA is. Has tried to shut down a lot of that. And in the other countries, so you. Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia, Southeast Asia, China has actually done a lot of really good research on stem cells. In fact, there was just someone recently that was cured completely from type 1 diabetes.

C (16:53)

From stem cells?

B (16:54)

From stem cells.

C (16:54)

Geez.

B (16:55)

Direct injection right into the pancreas. And so that's pretty cool. You can't. You have type 1 diabetes. You're not supposed to heal from this.

C (17:04)

I've never heard of that. For type one. Yeah.

B (17:06)

I mean, it's amazing.

B (17:09)

So I think there's this mindset that needs to change. There does need to be legislation. Because it's a biologic. You're injecting something in your body. You need to have that legislation. And I'd like to see some of the rules in the US change and have that kind of openness about stem cells and what. What can and can't be done and where they need to come from and all that. But it's really, in my opinion, a gift from God that we all start as stem cells, Shauna. In the womb. And when a baby is born, you're left with the umbilical cord and placenta. And if you can extract the stem cells and the exosomes and you can actually use those to help continue life or improve life. How. How amazing is that?

C (18:06)

Yeah, it's beautiful. I wonder what the hospital does with the umbilical cord.

B (18:10)

They throw them away.

C (18:11)

What?

B (18:12)

Yeah.

C (18:12)

That's such a waste.

B (18:13)

Yeah, they're all thrown away.

C (18:14)

That's worth a lot of, you know, value.

B (18:17)

Well, you can help people with it. And I. I think if. If more women knew that they could.

B (18:24)

Donate their umbilical cord and placenta tissue, it would be. It would be very beneficial for. I think most of them would.

C (18:33)

That should be an option, man.

B (18:34)

I agree.

C (18:35)

The placenta too, right?

B (18:36)

Yep. Yeah.

C (18:37)

So they just toss that up.

B (18:38)

Yeah, it's thrown away.

C (18:40)

That's crazy, right? I mean, that could be used to save lives right there.

B (18:45)

Yeah. And. But that's where I think if we had more active proactive legislation and governance and information for women, too. Most of these women. You have a healthy young woman who is giving birth and that placenta and umbilical cord could be used to help someone that has, let's say, diabetes or ALS or something that is potentially very damaging for them. I mean, most people would say, yeah, I want to do it, because it's not taking anything from them. And.

B (19:19)

It'S definitely something I think people would. Would, would like to do.

C (19:22)

Yeah. I hope the US Starts accepting it more, because right now you got to fly out the country to get some powerful stem cells. Right?

B (19:28)

Well, that's what most people think. And you actually don't. Yeah, there's. There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of clinics here in the US that do it as well and offer extremely good quality stem cells and exosomes.

C (19:41)

Oh, wow.

B (19:41)

Yeah. And. And I think that the. The thought is that it's only in Europe or Latin America or Asia.

C (19:49)

Mexico, I've heard, too.

B (19:50)

Yeah, Mexico. I've been to some very nice clinics. But you know what's interesting is I asked three different clinics in Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica, and I said, okay, where's your stem cells from? And they couldn't answer me. They couldn't tell me. And so as a sourcing, you need to know where your product's from. I mean, when you. When you look at what you're putting in your body, you need to know, do you have a healthy young woman? Is this a donated. Donated umbilical cord placenta? Where is that coming from? Because quality matters. And when you're looking at.

B (20:30)

Quality of birth, too, you have. You want to make sure your. Your umbilical and placental tissue is from a healthy birthday. A woman that doesn't have any diseases. The. The child was. Was born correctly. I mean, everything. You want to make sure that all those key things are met. No smoking, no alcohol, no tattoos, no vaping. No. No genetic diseases or biomarkers.

C (20:57)

Wow. So even tattoos affect the stem cells?

B (20:59)

Well, potentially. Yeah. We. And so the best companies always will even check for tattoos.

C (21:06)

Wow.

B (21:07)

Yeah. No COVID vaccine.

C (21:09)

Really?

B (21:09)

Yeah.

C (21:10)

That. That one doesn't surprise me.

B (21:12)

Right.

C (21:13)

Well, I mean, I don't want to get the video deleted, but we both know what's going on there.

B (21:18)

Yeah. So for me, it's been a lifelong journey, and I. I've been an entrepreneur for a long time, and I've. I've traveled all over the world. I've. I've been very fortunate to meet with people all over and see the beauty of these other cultures and learn some of their languages. And what I've learned is that people all over the world, they really want the same things. We all want to be healthy and happy. We all want to be loved. And when I look at health, I think of health as a way for us to all communicate and talk the same language. Everyone wants to be healthy, everyone wants to be happy, and everyone wants to be loved. And so you say, okay, well, if stem cells can help in that health journey, great. If exosomes can help in that health journey, great. But we need to step back and say, where, where, where are the problems? And be willing to ask some of those questions. Too many people, I believe, Sean, are, are afraid to ask questions.

C (22:21)

I agree.

B (22:22)

They're not, they don't want to know. They don't want to know the answer because it's, it's nice to be in this state of ignorance.

C (22:31)

Yeah.

B (22:32)

And realizing that the food that you're giving your child may not be healthy. Some people don't want to know that because that food that you're giving them is so convenient.

C (22:43)

Convenient, affordable, easy.

B (22:46)

Well, you look at right now in the US we have a big issue with corn ethanol, high fructose corn syrup all being used all over. You say, okay, why is that happening? And when you, when you research into it, you find out that the US government is basically paying subsidy subsidies to farmers and they are paying for corn to be produced so they can use it for ethanol production. That's now turned into a whole other.

B (23:21)

Whole other industry that has said, okay, well how can we get, we're getting corn basically for free, so let's use corn in everything. And so the, the trickle down effect has, has. I mean, that's why we have high fructose corn syrup. And even the, the soda has corn syrup. Not, not sugar anymore because corn syrup's cheaper. The problem with most of the corn and this, this goes to seed oils as well, is that it's not necessarily that corn is bad or the sunflower is bad, but they're all gmo. And so when you have GMO crops, you have spraying of pesticides and herbicides. And so it's not even, I don't even know that, that. It's that seed oils are so bad, Sean. It's that the pesticides and the herbicides that are being put on the seed oils and then extracted are.

C (24:14)

Right, that's the issue. It's like eating non organic fruit. The fruit, the fruit isn't the problem.

B (24:18)

Right.

C (24:18)

It's the pesticide and the herbicide.

B (24:20)

Right, exactly. Yeah.

C (24:22)

Yeah. That's interesting, man. Aren't they trying to ban the high fructose corn Syrup.

B (24:27)

I mean, I think some states are trying to, to change the, the legislation and, and I think the FDA is, is doing some good things with that, but it's difficult when you have it so ingrained and you have manufacturing processes, you have big companies that are using that as a, as a main ingredient.

C (24:43)

Right.

B (24:44)

And so, I mean, I grew up in the 80s and I. It's interesting if I go look at the back of foods that I ate growing up, they're different than they were when I was growing up.

C (24:56)

I could see that they Way less.

B (24:57)

Way more ingredients now and way more processed. More sugar. Not even using sugar. Using high fructose corn syrup.

C (25:06)

Yeah.

B (25:06)

So a lot, a lot of pesticides, herbicides, and you have to look and say, okay, well, we're supposedly smarter now, but how come cancer rates have gone up? How come heart disease has gone up? How come all these things are still happening and happening at a higher, increased rates?

C (25:24)

Why.

B (25:25)

Why is that happening? And so we have to step back and ask those questions. And I don't think a lot of people want to ask those questions because they've, they've built a identity or built a career off of some of these things happening the way they are.

C (25:39)

Yeah. Well, the number of diseases going up is alarming. Yeah. It's really scary. But. Yeah. I remember seeing a graphic about Wonder Bread. There was five ingredients.

B (25:48)

Yeah. Back in the day.

C (25:49)

Back in the day. And now there's like 50.

B (25:50)

Yeah.

C (25:51)

Bread.

B (25:52)

Well, ice cream, I mean. Okay. So I went to go get some ice cream and I looked at every brand. I could not find one brand without guar gum or sorbet, potassium sorbate or what was the other? Caragenin. So potassium sorbate is a. Stops bacteria growth preservative. And guar gum and carageenan are used to thicken. Well, they, they now have data showing that those can potentially cause problems for our gut.

C (26:26)

Wow.

B (26:27)

So I can't even get ice cream now. Ice cream should be three or four ingredients. It should be, I mean, cream, sugar, maybe vanilla and eggs. And that's basically it. So there should be anything else. But, but they've now added all these other things to make it thicker, make it different things. And so that's, that's the trouble for consumers in the US and that's why you hear of, I think, people going to Europe eating pizza and whatever and being fine.

C (27:00)

Yeah.

B (27:00)

And then coming to the USA and then having problems.

C (27:04)

Well, everything's enriched and fortified here for the grains.

B (27:07)

Yeah. Well, and, and most of the grains, again are gmo, which means most of them have pesticides and herbicides.

C (27:14)

Yeah.

B (27:15)

So whenever you eat those, you're actually ingesting pesticides and herbs.

C (27:19)

That's crazy. When you're eating bread, you don't even think about connecting those dots.

B (27:23)

But no, and it looks good, it smells good. You walk past a pizza place, it'll smell great, but you may not feel great afterwards.

C (27:33)

So you gotta, these days almost ask what they're using in their, their restaurant, you know?

B (27:37)

Well, and I, I hope there's a proliferation now of people eating out. More people eat out than cook at home. And I'm hoping that that's, that changes and people start cooking at home again because, and, and also, like, just for families, they've shown that eating with, with others is very beneficial for your own, your own mental health and everything as well. So that, I mean, there's some benefit there.

C (28:04)

Absolutely.

B (28:04)

You and I go, we go make a meal.

C (28:06)

We're.

B (28:06)

We're together for 30 minutes prepping that meal and then we sit down and eat it. That's, that's a lot more bonding than just going to a restaurant.

C (28:14)

Yeah. You know, absolutely.

B (28:16)

It will probably taste better too.

C (28:18)

Probably. Most restaurants are hit or miss these days.

B (28:21)

Yeah. You never know.

C (28:22)

Yeah. You got a book you're working on, Baselift?

B (28:25)

Yeah, so I actually have two books I'm working on. One's called Base Lift, which is about daily things and daily actions you can do to lift your base. So it's, it's things that you can do on a daily basis. And then my other book is called Beyond Repair. I hope to launch it this year. That Beyond Repair is about stem cell solution to healing and longevity and want to try and get that, that idea out. So people start seeing stem cells as something they should be utilizing actively, not as a last resort.

C (29:00)

Yeah.

B (29:00)

Does that make sense?

C (29:01)

Absolutely. That's cool, man. We'll link those below if they're out when this drops.

B (29:04)

Yeah, Yeah. I appreciate it. And with, with, I mean when you look at overall.

B (29:11)

Like Peru and some of these experiences that I had, I've had some really cool experiences with shaman, with plant medicines. And I think there's some issues that people have right now. There's this mindset, Sean, of let's, let's go get weed, let's get high and let's go do mushrooms. Let's go just, just like a, almost like cursory go do it to have fun. And that's not what their real intention is. Plant medicine is here to help us heal and when we do it to help us heal, we actually can experience some amazing things. But when they're taken over and over, you actually can have negative side effects as well. So.

B (30:00)

MJ or CBD and thc, any cannabis plant. Cannabis is actually, is a great cleanser of, of soil and so you can use it intermittently with your crop. So you could do like corn and then you do cannabis hemp or something and then you could do your corn again and the, the hemp in between will clean the soil.

C (30:22)

Really?

B (30:22)

Yeah.

C (30:23)

Wow.

B (30:23)

But the problem with that. So think of it. So people are. I mean, I was just in Bangkok and every single street, I mean every corner there's a THC dispensary. Right. And the problem with.

B (30:38)

Taking cannabis regularly is that when you ingest it, you're getting micro toxins every time. Heavy metals, because it is extracting from the soil and cleaning that soil. And so the problem that we have right now in the society is that people are taking these plant medicines as a recreational substance and they're actually a medicine. They should be used to help with something. And then you stop. And that's the problem that people are. They're getting toxicity from some of these plant.

C (31:17)

I didn't know that about cannabis. Wow.

B (31:19)

Yeah, it's, it's a big one. Mushrooms. I can see it though, because whenever I. Ayahuasca. Same thing.

C (31:23)

Yeah, I could see that because whenever I smoke. Smoke, I start either sneezing or coughing and I feel like that I can't be from the actual cannabis has to be something else.

B (31:31)

No, it's, it's from, it's from the, the heavy metal. The, the. And so. And it's hard because some of these are pretty addictive and you feel good briefly, but they can have long term effects. And some of the, the clinics that we've worked with will show they, they can do scans and show. Exactly. Hey, this person is taking cannabis regularly.

C (31:49)

Really?

B (31:50)

They have heavy metal.

C (31:51)

They could tell from just.

B (31:52)

Oh yeah, just from the heavy metals alone.

C (31:54)

That's nuts.

B (31:54)

Yeah. So. So people need to realize that these are sacred medicines. These are plant medicines and they should be used as a medicine and not every day. They're not everyday substances. A lot of supplements, the same thing.

C (32:08)

Really?

B (32:08)

Yeah.

C (32:09)

What about like vitamin D and like.

B (32:11)

Yeah, so. So some of them you got to. Okay. So I think if you look at the body as.

B (32:20)

Trying to find harmony within the system. Okay. And energetically, it's like think of the yin yang.

C (32:26)

Okay.

B (32:27)

So you have the male and the female and it's moving together. Now all of our systems are actually that way. So if you look at the heart, our heart is a full system and it's actually a yin yang system. It's a male, female system. In, out, in, out. And we need to have harmony in our systems. So whenever you take a supplement, you are adding to one side. Now maybe you're deficient in that and that's okay, but you need to make sure you're staying in balance. And so I think it's important that you are making sure you're seeing those systems as in harmony and making sure that you're not overly taking one thing that might be affecting something else. Does that make sense?

C (33:11)

Yeah.

B (33:12)

So some of them are, some are a little bit difficult to look at. Say, okay, well, vitamin D. Well, if I do vitamin D, I get this. Is there anything that's causing to be out of balance? And we have to look at those, each individual, each individual person. But I mean, when we look at energetic healing, and that's a whole nother topic, Sean. I don't know we have time to talk about that. But see, science, science wants you to think that everything's like a negative and positive, right? We go to electrons, protons, things like that. But the reality is it's actually not negative, positive. It's actually male, female. So everything in your body, Everything in my body is male, female. And it's the yin and yang, the harmony in the systems. And I think people are starting to understand this, especially those that do anything with sound or vibration, any frequencies, they're starting to understand. But every, every frequency is either a male or a female frequency or a neutral frequency. Okay, so there, there's. And I can get into this. Do you want to go deep into this?

C (34:13)

Yeah.

B (34:13)

Okay, we can go a little deeper. But basically each system is what's called wuji. And then the, the center or the neutral is called quora. And then you have the male and the female side. So this works. So think of it like a, in a car, okay? So the car itself would be the wuji. It's the mechanism, it's moving, okay. The steering wheel is the neutral. It can go right or left. Okay. So it can go male or female, right or left. That's kind of how our bodies are as well. And so in, in nature, this manifests itself all the time as well. So the, the lights, the frequency, the sounds, they all have different, different interactions within the system that they're playing in. And the far extremes, what we learn. So like a hurricane, which is a female Frequency or a volcano, which is a male frequency. Whenever you have extremes.

B (35:15)

Extremes in anything cause death and destruction. So you need to look at your body as harmonic system. How can we get it in harmony? This is why people that are too masculine or too feminine have issues. You need to, you need to, you need to integrate everything so you can have this, this, this harmonious system. And where I think people, what they don't realize is it's not, it's not like this teeter, totter, equal weights. Okay. You can have different weights on things. You and I are more masculine than feminine. That's okay. But our fulcrum, the middle point is different. So it's actually weighted perfectly. Does that make sense?

C (36:01)

Yeah.

B (36:02)

And so you have to find out and realize what's, what's the, the mid, the fulcrum points, the neutral points that you can add to your system. So things like stem cells, Stem cells are neutral. They enhance either the male or the female within that system that they need. So it's, and we can go into, I mean even like this, this is, this is working off of frequencies, trying to prevent certain frequencies from entering our bodies. And that, that's a type of system, that or type of device that's trying to prevent certain frequencies from coming into us. Because both, both male and fee. It's not that male or female are bad or good. There's not a good or bad. They're, they're just there.

C (36:45)

You need both.

B (36:46)

You need both and you need to have a harmony. So when I say we have to focus on.

B (36:52)

Sleep, nutrition and exercise, those are the first three things we focus on. And we say, how do we have harmony in our sleep? How do we have harmony in our nutrition? How do we have harmony in our exercise? And then we work around that and figure out. So for women, it's extremely important that they're tracking their cycles. They're, they know when they should be doing certain exercises, when they should be eating, when they should be taking a relaxed time. And if they do that, then they can have more harmony in their life. And they can work with their hormones in conjunction with their hormones. Men's cycle is different. Men have a 24 hour cycle, very different than women. And so men, the same thing. Men need to figure out, okay, when am I on, when am I off? When should I not have means, when should I?

C (37:40)

Is it different for every guy? Like, is there a best time of day to work out?

B (37:43)

Yeah, everyone's got a little bit different. I mean there's, there's generalities and they have some data, but everyone is a little different. You have to find out, hey, do I work better in, in afternoon or evening or morning or when's the best for me? And so everyone is a little bit different. That's where I think in society it can be difficult because we're stuck in this, you know, nine to five. This is when you work. This is when you do things. And for some people, they like to.

C (38:12)

Work at night, some people like to work at 2:00am yeah.

B (38:15)

And so you, you have to figure out what's right for you and then you adapt it so you can work with the world and everything. But as we, if we look at our bodies in, in terms of a system that we're trying to optimize and harmonize. Harmonize, then I think we'll be a lot better in our.

C (38:34)

I love that approach. David, anything else you want to close off with, man? That was really interesting stuff.

B (38:39)

No, I think, I think it's pretty good. Let's just. Let's change the world.

C (38:42)

Yeah, let's do it, man. We'll link your, your website below and your books when they're out. Great. Thank you. Perfect. Thanks for coming on, man.

B (38:47)

Thank you.

C (38:48)

Yep. Check them out, guys. See you next time. Thank you.