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Hughie Vuitton: “Don’t Be Charlie Kirk And Be the Best Version of YOU” | DSH #1845
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It's just going to be one of those things where people need to look back on what happened and not forget and remember that maybe they could do a better job of just being themselves as opposed to trying to be Charlie Kirk. Don't be Charlie Kirk. Be you. Be the best version of you. Don't waste your life. Don't take a minute for granted. He would almost do anything, I'm sure, if he could spend one more moment with his kids, give them another hug, give him another kiss. People need to really reflect on that.
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B
Yeah. He was one of one, man. Okay, so here with an interesting guest today, according to multiple news sources, been alleged to be a Nazi. Got Shan here today.
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A
What do you.
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B
What do you think about those claims?
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A
I think that we should start in the beginning. Was a perfectly normal afternoon by all accounts. I mean, I was having a good day.
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B
I saw you there.
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A
Yeah. I ran into my friend Sean Kelly. And might I say that I think that this is good timing, you know, but I. It should have happened even long before now, but thank God it's happening in his perfect timing. How does one become a Nazi? Well, I don't necessarily fit the stereotypical bill. First of all, I want to say about what you would typically see in most Nazis. I have obviously a full head of hair. Some people say I have rather good hair. Kind of got the mullet game going. I love your hair, too. I think we do. I think we do well for hair as far as that part's concerned. So when they said skinhead, they say Nazi. I. I'll say. I guess it. It would have been more of a joke. Up until recently, I had a close friend of mine that was, you know, obviously my friend Charlie Kirk was tragically killed. And before then, a few months back when I saw you, Sean, we were at. What was that award show. Remind me, was that the. We won't even give them airtime because, you know, that was probably a lackluster thing anyway. But hey, thanks guys for having us. It was great. When I. When we, when we were there, Sean, you and I, we had a conversation. I walks inside and I ran into this live streamer. I think most of your audience will be familiar with. His name is Kai Kat Orat or Sabat Shabbat. I don't know what. What his deal is, but in the guy, we had a. We had a little back and forth and I think the whole exchange that outed me as a Nazi, despite the fact that I'm a straight white Christian conservative, which pretty much makes me a Nazi. Obviously, anyway, according to most mainstream media was that I'd saw this guy a few weeks prior, absolutely on his knees, just totally enamored by this chance encounter with Yay. You know, Kanye west, former artist known as Kanye West. He said, oh, man, I'm waiting for this guy. I can't wait to see this guy. He's about to be. Oh, my God, here he is. And when Connie rolled up, he dabbed him up, whatever. He said, hi. And the dude was just. His audience at home knew this is a once in a lifetime encounter for him. He was on cloud nine. I think they went out to an after party together or whatever. Within a matter of mere weeks. The next time that this name would be mentioned to this Kai Kinet. He thought he saw a ghost, but in fact it was just Huey Vuitton. It's just little old me. And I said, hey, Kai, isn't it a wonderful thing that we live in a free country where people can have their own beliefs? I think it was wonderful that you had Yay on your stream not long ago. And I think we should pray for him. You know, basically, that was the exchange. What transpired following has just been absolute pandemonium. I had my home address sent to me several times. I had people telling me they're gonna kill me. I'm an op. I'm. How dare I come with that bad energy on Kai's stream? And I, you know, I found the whole thing at first very humorous, to be honest. You know, I gotta Sean a good sense of humor. Yeah, I typically use humor as a way of engaging people. I use success and fancy stuff like Rolexes and gold and jewelry. Even my moniker, the Huey Vuitton thing. Really? It's a hook.
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B
Yep.
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A
It's a way to draw people in because I want to show them the truth. And sometimes the truth isn't easy for all people to accept. And the truth, despite. I'm sure most of your listeners will be very disappointed to hear this. Is that. No, I'm. I'm not a Nazi. I believe in the Abrahamic covenant, so we can knock that one off first.
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Sean and I also believe when I, when I say I Abrahamic covenant, I believe that the Jewish people are God's chosen people. And I believe when we look at Israel today in the region and we say, well, what exactly are they entitled to? I mean, should we, Huey, be supporting Israel so full throatedly here at the America Fest conference? Many people have conflicting ideas about that. I believe that if we look throughout history, you see any nation that ever tried to stand against Israel has fallen and fallen greatly. Okay, so I can walk and chew gum at the same time on this conversation. I can say that I think that they're be many, many things I disagree with and all of the support and all of the full throated, you know, attacks and things which happened, which is necessary for Israel to defend itself. But I also believe as a Christian that Israel is standing as the first line of defense against Islamic extremism in the Middle East. And for that we do have a biblical and a moral obligation to do the right thing and offer a certain amount of support. There's, I think President Trump's towed the line on this issue brilliantly. I think that he doesn't get nearly enough credit for the peacemaker, which he is. He's ended so many wars now, we can't even keep track. Yet here at a conference like this, you got people mudslinging, taking that whipped cream pie and going and throwing it in each other's face on the same team. And I think it's a total shame. I think it's a crying shame.
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A lot of infighting on the right,
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A lot of infighting on the right. We've been splintered and fractured and if we keep this up, we're going to lose the midterms. But here, here comes little old Huey Vuitton minding his own business, you know, on a Kai Kanat stream, and all the hatred that followed. I never would have took those threats so seriously. And within a matter of months, matter of matter of months, we were subjected to see this horrific tragedy where my friend Charlie Kirk was martyred for his faith in Christ. And people aren't meant to see certain things. People, the human mind can only stand so much, as Bob Dylan said. And, you know, I think, Sean, you're a little younger than I am, obviously, but we're both from Jersey originally, and I think we shared this earlier. As a kid in 2001, I remember walking outside on September 11, and I could see from Seaside Heights the smoke bellow and from the Twin Towers. And psychologically, it's a turning point in history. And your mind is forever. It's etched in your memory. You'll never forget that moment. And you won't take for granted what it means to be an American when you see people violently try to take something away from you that. That you just take for granted. And I hadn't felt that same burning heartache in so many years that when I watched what happened to my friend, which I wish nobody should ever have to see, that it brought back a lot of pain and, you know, as opposed to grief and sadness, I've cried so many tears that I'm left angry. And I understand people on the right need to want to try to pin this on somebody. And if that be a nation, say it's Israel, say it's the government, say it isn't the. It isn't the trans ideologist. I won't say his name. The, you know, the very sick person that was at least at this point, being held responsible for Charlie's death, whom I personally believe was responsible. Sometimes it's not that deep. The conspiracies don't have to go down a rabbit hole, you know, down to the deepest, darkest parts of the web. And I think that people need to start being accountable for their words. Sean, we need to think about when people scrutinize somebody like Erica Kirk because she's not grieving in the way they want them to, they themselves will never experience a loss at that level of magnitude of attention. When you lose a loved one, let even lose a dog, a pet, for God's sake, you'll walk into walls, you'll be totally lost. And it's not an easy thing to get through. And there's a million different ways to grieve. People need to understand these are real people. Mac and Gigi are real kids. Erica's a real person. And as much as good words can build a person up, the Bible says. The Bible, the tongue has the power to breed life and death. And this is a perfect example. We should be lifting people up right now. We shouldn't be in fighting. Instead, they're coming with negativity, and we're watching that play out in real time. It's a horrible thing to watch.
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It really did feel like Charlie was the glue to our party. He held a lot of it together,
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man, an incredible leader. And people keep saying, you know, we are. Charlie Kirk's a beautiful shirt. It's a wonderful phrase. Got it. Here we are Charlie Kirk. You know, we all. Yeah. The truth is, though, is we wish. We wish we were Charlie Kirk. You know, nobody's perfect. And I won't make an idol out of my friend. You know, he was just a man, but at the end of the day, he's not gonna be replaced. When they said, well, now that Charlie's passed a million more, Charlie Kirk's will rise up. The truth is, that's not. That's not the way it's gonna be at all.
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Yeah.
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In fact, it very likely won't be until becoming the second coming of Christ that there'll be another Charlie Kirk. I think it's just going to be one of those things where people need to look back on what happened and not forget and remember that maybe they could do a better job of just being themselves as opposed to trying to be Charlie Kirk. Don't. Don't be Charlie Kirk. Be you.
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B
Yeah.
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Be the best version of you. Don't waste your life. Don't take a minute for granted. He. You know, he would almost do anything, I'm sure, if he could spend one more moment with his kids, give them another hug, give him another kiss, and at Christmas time, I think people need to really reflect on that.
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B
Yeah. He was one of one man, Zo's brother. Yeah. He's touched a lot of us. I think he'll live on for many generations.
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Irreplaceable, a legend. You know, there's been people throughout history that I think I'll be reflected on for generations, and they'll constantly go back and forth. I've heard so many people, especially on the left, you know, they take issue with when names like MLK are mentioned in the same sentence. With Charlie Kirk, you know what's funny? On the right. I take issue with that too. Not for the reason they do. I look at Martin Luther King's accumulation of his life and from a very practical standpoint, I can say, well, according to real world standards, for what would make a person inherently good or bad, despite the fact that Martin Luther King was, yes, a brilliant civil rights leader, he had numerous issues with infidelity, you know, and that's just what we know from, you know, a limited amount of media resource from that time. Martin Luther King's life. I won't, I won't disparage his reputation, but I take issue with him. You compare such a decent, morally high standard person like Charlie Kurt to Martin
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Luther King, I think that's why they took him out, because they couldn't get any blackmail on Charlie, any bribery on Charlie.
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I was neighbors with Charlie and it doesn't bring me a lot of pride in saying this, but, you know, I wasn't the same person today who I was then. When Charlie and I first lived together and was under the same roof and would work out together at times, and we shared a lot of intimate moments, which I won't share, all of which they were for me and him. And he was nothing but a good influence on me. And I'm sure I always tried to be a bad influence on him and unsuccessfully.
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B
So.
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Wow. I tried to get that guy out different times to get into some trouble. And you know what, it got to the point where I started saying to myself, this guy is really for real.
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B
Wow.
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And I mean, at one point I just said, you know what, I gotta, I gotta call myself to a higher standard. Here's a person that's living for something greater than himself and I'm living purely for myself, okay? Before my daughter had been born, Charlie wasn't married. He was younger then. He had not nearly the platform he does today, but it was clear that God was using him and great things was happening. I really believe there was a supernatural blessing that come with being Charlie's friend, being in his orbit. As you know, if you hang out with certain people, certain outcomes are very likely to happen, aren't they, Sean? You work, you, you hang out with people that eat the wrong food, stay out all night, you're going to get sick, you're going to get fat, you're going to get depressed, you're going to be sad, and you're going to be unsuccessful. You hang out with people that's successful and good at managing money, good at taking care of their health, eat the right foods, you're going to in, in spite of yourself, you're going to get good results, too. So people should surround themselves with good people. It was just in my case that God cared so much about me that he would allow Charlie to enter into my life at a time I really desperately needed him. I had no idea how much I did. You know, I will say this one thing for you guys at home that might enjoy this story. I don't, I don't share it. I haven't shared it with many. This is the world, Charlie. He said to me one time, huey, what are you doing? I said, you know, yeah, I got a good job, Charlie. I have a few different businesses that I own and I'm, you know, I'm pretty successful. He said, well, that's good. And I, I was going to offer you a job. I thought maybe you might want to come work at Turning Point. But since you got a good job and you make good money, I don't have to pay you. You can just come work for free. You're funny, man. And he's just staring at me dead sober stench. He said, no, you come work for free. I was like, so you're serious? I said, well, I, I don't do that. I said, I, Charlie could make the impossible possible. He could have got water out of a rock. He was a very charming, very, very brilliant way of motivating people to do things. And within a matter, I was on a plane down to either Palm beach or Tampa, my wife Betty will remember. And I said, there's just no way that I'm doing what I'm actually doing right now. I could be up at home making money. I could be swimming in the pool. I could be on vacation. I was jet setting, Sean. I was living the life. Yeah, I was going to the Oscars, the Grammys. I was, I was invited to these things. And I was constantly hanging out with all my favorite A listers and just part of that whole scene. And I knew that if I got involved with Turning Point usa, it could close a lot of doors. But Charlie convinced me to do that. And all I can say is I don't regret it for a second. So thankful to God. I'm thankful to God to be able to enter into places now where I might get called a Nazi for being a Christian conservative, married there with my family. I mean, to those people, maybe I am a Nazi. Maybe that's what the viewers at home want to know. If that's what the definition of a Nazi is today, then yes, I'm a Nazi. But that's not the definition. The objective definition of a Nazi is not what I am today. Words don't mean anything anymore, do they? Do they show you they've lost value? So it's just. It's a sad thing to live in a day and age where your truth. Truth is apparently perspective and no longer objective.
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D
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C
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B
When I grew up, word was bond. It was a contract.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Said you were going to do something, you did it.
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A
Yeah. Well, it's east coast mentality too.
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B
That's true too.
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You gotta watch the movie Jersey Boys.
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B
Yeah.
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A lot of them don't get it. They don't understand. Yeah. Unless they say, remember in the Jersey Boys movies, he said, it's a Jersey thing. And them dudes was so mob tied they found out they owed so much money. But you know what Frankie Valli did? Frankie Valli said, I'll work to the rest of my life to get the debt paid off. Because there's an inherent bond that families hold that they're supposed to always have each other's back. I was raised with that same mentality too. So, yeah, maybe it's a Jersey thing. Maybe it's just a good moral principle. I see guys, you know, with patches on their back that say Hell's Angel. And people say, those are some bad dudes. And I'll say the definition of bad is because you mean they're a motorcycle club that's maybe been affiliated with organized crime. When I think about people like Sonny Barringer and I think about guys like Chuck Zito and I meet. And I've known these guys personally throughout my life. My parents. My dad rode Harley's a long time. He hung with these dudes a lot. They got each other's back. When. When it hits the fan. They don't. They don't. They don't run for the hills. They. They got each other's back. I've seen them move. They move as a fluid machine. They're like. They're like them fighter pilots moving through the sky in perfect unison. Yeah, it would. It would take. It would take. It would take a certain amount of credit to them. Maybe the conservative movement should watch how some of these people that are supposed to be the bad guys stick together. Okay? The left are sticking together right now, and we're fractured and splintered in a million pieces.
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B
We need to get back together.
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You stop the nerd fighting. Like Russell Brand called.
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B
Well, Huey, it's been an honor, my brother. We'll have to film a full episode one of these days, and I can't wait, brother. But, dude, thanks for being open and vulnerable. We'll link your socials. Thanks for clearing the air about the Nazis.
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Yeah, man. Hey, and if you guys get a chance, follow me at the H U G H I E Underscore Vuitton and vote for people that's going to make a difference here, guys. You got Anthony Constantino, Joel Mitchell. Midterms are coming. Stay involved. Don't just get caught on the press. Okay?
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B
Check them out, guys. Peace.
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C
I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm.
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B
Thank you.