I Cloned Myself With AI… And It’s Scary Accurate | Natasha Graziano | DSH #1844

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Natasha Graziano
Episode: I Cloned Myself With AI… And It’s Scary Accurate | DSH #1844
Date: March 2, 2026
Theme: An unfiltered conversation about personal branding, leveraging AI for impact, mindset growth, mixing personal and professional life, and being unapologetically authentic. Natasha unveils her AI twin—an advanced digital version of herself for scalable, accessible coaching—and offers raw insights into relationships, business, and overcoming adversity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

On Relationships: Age, Power Dynamics, and Energy

• Navigating Age Gaps:

  • Natasha shares her comfort dating partners much older or younger. The key is ensuring mutual respect and understanding of being at different life stages.
  • Quote:

    “If you behave like a king, I can be in my queen energy… If you behave like a boy, I have to be your mother and I will send you home to your mother.” — Natasha [00:14, 43:25]

• Mixing Business and Friendship:

  • Working with friends who later seek favors is risky.
  • Quote:

    “If you’re friends and then you do business, you’re fucked.” — Natasha [00:38]

• Mixing Love and Business:

  • Natasha is open to building businesses with romantic partners but warns she’ll “remove all of [her] context” if betrayed [01:26].

Personal Presence, Aura, and Branding

• Energy over Appearance:

  • Presence, a unique aura, and personalized style/scent are key to standing out.
  • Quote:

    “People say… I can smell you and see you before you walk into a room… if you’re a star, you have an aura and you carry it around you.” — Natasha [03:22]

• The Marilyn Monroe Effect:

  • Be enigmatic—have a distinguishing element, like scent or statement accessory; carry oneself with confidence [05:03].

• Building a Sustainable Personal Brand:

  • Emphasis on authenticity and defining a USP (“unique selling point”). Not just uplifting content, but what is memorable and distinctive about you.
  • Quote:

    "Your personal brand is everything… We each have something which is going to be in books, podcasts, everywhere… the world wants to know." — Natasha [08:48]

Mindset, Manifestation, and Scripting

• Scripting as a Success Tool:

  • Writing goals in the past tense with pen and paper “tricks” the brain, helping manifest them as memories.
  • Quote:

    “Scripting has been proven to help you achieve your goals faster because you’re writing down in the past tense exactly what you want to achieve.” — Natasha [09:47]

• Host’s Testimony:

  • Sean shares that he scripted “Dream Hunter” goals early in the podcast’s history—67/100 guests achieved [11:18].

• Karma, Giving, and Value:

  • Abundance comes from genuine giving and over-delivering value, not by cutting corners.
  • Quote:

    "The more you give, the more you get… when you take, the universe just takes right back from you." — Natasha [14:07]

Business Insights and Pay-to-Play Model

• Podcast Guesting:

  • Natasha and Sean advocate for “pay to play”—if you want exposure on major shows, invest in yourself.
  • Quote:

    “Hit up the big shows and ask to go on. But be prepared to pay, while you’re growing.” — Natasha [16:58]

• High-Value Environments:

  • Masterminds and exclusive rooms provide immense network and mindset shifts, even if expensive.
  • “Pay for proximity. Get in the room.” — Natasha [17:47]

Authenticity, Reputation, and Overcoming Shame

• Owning Your Past:

  • Natasha is transparent about her life, from being a webcam model to being on Big Brother, and the importance of “getting ahead” of your skeletons.
  • Quote:

    “There is no shock, you know, don’t start dating me and tell me I didn’t know you had a sex tape. Why did you not do your research? I talk about it on stage.” — Natasha [18:53]

• Victim Mindset vs. Empowerment:

  • Natasha details her evolution from playing the victim to claiming ownership of her growth.
  • Quote:

    “When I point the finger… three fingers are pointing back at me. Who’s the problem? I’m the problem.” — Natasha [20:11]
    “You can change at any point; it just takes you deciding… Can you get 1% better every single day?” — Natasha [23:44]

Technology, AI, and the "AI Twin"

• Host’s Use of AI:

  • Sean describes leveraging AI (ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, Claude) to process health data, summarize interviews, and prepare for business [31:15].

• Natasha’s AI Twin:

  • Natasha unveils her AI-based digital twin—an avatar that anyone can converse with for instant, personalized coaching.
  • Clone mirrors her voice, advice, and “even meditations.” Accessible for $30/month, offering her expertise around the clock.
  • Quotes:

    “She looks like me, talks like me, may as well smell like me… She is phenomenal. She coaches like me, has my framework… it’s wildly on point.” — Natasha [32:12–33:35]
    “You can just go and get this for… $30 a month and you can have unlimited questions… it’s my twin and it’s dope!” — Natasha [33:28]

• Ethical Limits:

  • Jokes about boundaries (“I really hope it doesn’t go further than that… what if someone asked it for phone sex?”), but asserts it will abide by ethical AI limits [34:15].

• AI as Democratizer:

  • Natasha hopes others will build their own twins, democratizing high-level coaching and personal development [34:20].

Action Orientation & Information Sharing

• Knowledge Applied = Power:

  • Information only becomes powerful when used.
  • Quote:

    “Knowledge is just knowledge until applied and then it becomes power… The trick is, when you hear something, go share it.” — Natasha [36:44]

• Podcast as Accelerator:

  • Both share that daily podcasting fuels their evolution—Sean films 4–7 episodes a week, with a four-month backlog [37:44].

Gender Dynamics, Money, and Ambition

• Dating Down or Up—It’s About Drive:

  • Natasha is open to dating men who earn less “if they have ambition,” but openly works to grow her partner’s streams of income and believes in operating as a power couple.
  • Quote:

    “If you’re in my presence, I assure you—you will be a millionaire… what’s our family business going to look like?” [44:53]

• Empowering Women:

  • Urges women to build their own businesses so they’re never “stuck.”
  • Quote:

    “Don’t have your man buy you bags and watches. Have your man invest in your business… upgrade your life and earn your own money.” [46:29]

• Sugar Daddies & Body Count:

  • Frank conversation on sugar daddies, sexuality, and why her “body count” (number of partners) is low by choice, prioritizing self-respect [47:34—48:42].
  • Both Sean and Natasha share pride in low “body counts,” contrasting societal expectations.

Trust, Boundaries, and Protecting Energy

• Trust Issues Origin:

  • Natasha shares a formative trauma—her father’s infidelity discovered by her mother while pregnant with Natasha—and its ripple effects on her trust and boundaries [26:27].

• Protecting Energetic Space:

  • Never conducts high-stakes sales calls in front of others to prevent subconscious negativity (“evil eye”).
  • Quote:

    “Never. I will not sit and do a single deal… The person sitting next to you [may send] imposter syndrome… Now they’re sending energy. Thoughts have frequency.” — Natasha [30:08]

Sex, Sapiosexuality, & Connection

• Sapiosexuality:
  • Sean identifies as sapiosexual (“attracted to intelligence”), and Natasha echoes a preference for mental connection [49:49].
  • Discussion of how deep conversation can even be orgasmic for some (“orgasm from… super intellectual conversation” [50:28]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “If you behave like a king, I can be in my queen energy… If you behave like a boy, I have to be your mother and I will send you home to your mother.”
  — Natasha [00:14]

• "If you’re friends and then you do business, you’re fucked."
  — Natasha [00:38]

• "People say… I can smell you and see you before you walk into a room… if you’re a star, you have an aura and you carry it around you."
  — Natasha [03:22]

• “Scripting has been proven to help you achieve your goals faster because you’re writing down in the past tense exactly what you want to achieve.”
  — Natasha [09:47]

• "The more you give, the more you get… when you take, the universe just takes right back from you."
  — Natasha [14:07]

• “Pay for proximity. Get in the room.”
  — Natasha [17:47]

• "There is no shock, you know, don’t start dating me and tell me I didn’t know you had a sex tape. Why did you not do your research? I talk about it on stage."
  — Natasha [18:53]

• “When I point the finger… three fingers are pointing back at me. Who’s the problem? I’m the problem.”
  — Natasha [20:11]

• "She looks like me, talks like me, may as well smell like me… She is phenomenal. She coaches like me, has my framework… it’s wildly on point.”
  — Natasha (about her AI twin) [32:12–33:35]

• “Knowledge is just knowledge until applied and then it becomes power… The trick is, when you hear something, go share it.”
  — Natasha [36:44]

• “If you’re in my presence, I assure you—you will be a millionaire… what’s our family business going to look like?”
  — Natasha [44:53]

• "Don’t have your man buy you bags and watches. Have your man invest in your business… upgrade your life and earn your own money.”
  — Natasha [46:29]

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Structure Recap with Timestamps

• [00:14–03:06] — Dating dynamics, age gaps, and “queen energy”
• [03:20–06:07] — Personal aura, scent, style & the Marilyn Monroe effect
• [06:42–11:29] — Personal branding, unique selling points, and scripting for success
• [11:47–14:07] — Value, karma, and the power of giving over taking
• [14:29–17:47] — Pay-to-play, masterminds, and moving up via proximity
• [18:53–21:13] — Owning your past, combating shame, Big Brother story, victim mindset
• [23:44–26:02] — The “1% Rule” for self-improvement, evolving identity
• [26:27–30:08] — Childhood trauma and trust, protecting energy in business
• [31:15–34:20] — Leveraging AI in health/business, unveiling the “AI twin”
• [36:44–38:58] — The value of action, learning by sharing, podcasting as a learning engine
• [44:53–47:29] — Women, money, and relationship dynamics; power couples and empowerment
• [47:34–50:14] — Sugar daddies, body count pride, sapiosexuality
• [50:28–51:05] — Intellectual connection & orgasm, show plugs and where to find more

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a masterclass in unapologetic authenticity, entrepreneurial mindset, and leveraging both AI and personal experience for scalable impact. Natasha openly shares her strategies for both personal and professional success—including the launch of her AI twin—while Sean and she swap deeply candid lessons about business boundaries, resilience, and relationships.

To learn more:

• Natasha’s Law of Attraction Secrets Podcast (all platforms)
• Her AI twin (links on her channels)
• Follow Natasha Graziano for mindset, branding, and empowerment coaching

Key Takeaway:
Take radical responsibility for your growth, dare to leverage technology and authenticity, and never be ashamed of your story—use it as your superpower.

Transcript

[A]

You can date someone 10 years younger than you, 10 years older, 20 years older, 20 years younger. But if you're dating someone, just know you're going to be at different points in your life. You're going to have points of confliction and you just have to, like, work around those things. But ultimately, I am not looking to be your mom. I made jokes about being a sugar mama, but, like, if you behave like a king, I can be in my queen energy and I can be in my feminine. If you behave like a boy, I have to be your mother and I will say you home to your mother.

[B]

So when you mix friendship with business, it gets treated. It's true.

[A]

If you be in business and you become friends, you can sustain it. But if you're friends and then you do business, you're fucked.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. Has that happened to you?

[A]

Yeah, it's happened to me multiple times where somebody is like, but I'm your friend, or somebody worse wants to have your services for free. Bitch, why am I paying for you to be on a magazine cover for free? Out my pocket? Yeah, I'll just go dig in to my bank for you. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

[B]

Yeah, it hasn't worked out with me. I need to change it up.

[A]

No. Yeah, it's tough. I feel like there are certain partnerships where you're not, like, on the friendliest terms, where it's like, I know your mom's name, you know my. Like, it's not in that genre, but if you're business friends, definitely you can do it.

[B]

Yeah. What about dating partner? Would you work with your dating partner?

[A]

Oh, 100%. I'll build your whole grandbaby and I'll wrap it down if we're not together.

[B]

Really? So you don't have issues mixing the two? No, I. I can't say this.

[A]

That sounds evil that I just said that. But the truth is, if I give you everything and then you fuck me over, I will remove all of my context out of it and whoops.

[B]

Damn. So you hold a grudge?

[A]

I mean, I don't mean to. I try and let go of grudges, but, like, sometimes it can be. It can be tough.

[B]

I mean, it's probably frustrating, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You see them killing it and, you know, you played a role in that. Yeah.

[A]

And then you're like, why? Why is that? You know, why is that happening? I try and choose dating partners wisely. I think that we get locked into people who are sometimes losers and that's not it. Like, I've been with enough NPCs like the whole of the USA and Great Britain, like, I'm over NPCs for anyone watching. That's a non playable character. Go play Fortnite. And you know, I just realized that like, it's not about going for an NPC anymore. You have to go for someone that matches your energy. But you don't attract what you want, you attract what you are.

[B]

Yeah. You were attracting people at my wedding.

[A]

Yeah. Really?

[B]

So many guys were coming up to me.

[A]

That's funny. Yeah. No, I was just like being me and I was getting hit on like wildfire. I don't know if it's. Cause my dress was see through and

[B]

like that might be why. I didn't know that.

[A]

That might have been why. I mean, I don't really know. But like, dress was just slightly see through. But that was, it was, that was tough, you know. But it was a beautiful wedding. But I. I was surprised. People asking about me like a lot.

[B]

I think there was a lot of girls there, but they were in relationships, you know what I mean? So that could have played a role. But yes, so many guys were coming up to me while. Who is that girl? I'm like, right, yeah, you are attracting a lot of people. But I think it's your energy too.

[A]

It is.

[B]

I don't think it's just physical. I think it's like your presence.

[A]

It is, it's an aura, right? Like if you're a star, you have an aura and you carry it around you and it's like wherever you go into whatever room you go in, you. You radiate this aura. You just. People say to me, like, I can smell you and see you before you walk into a room. And actually there is science behind this. And it looks something like this. If you go into a room and you are wearing something that is slightly off beating feet, like let's say you're wearing a black suit with a bright orange scarf. You're gonna get looked at and you wear something that smells really ott. So I wear oud from Saudi Arabia. You can't buy it here. It's like literally an oil that you put on it like radiates before.

[B]

So no one else has your scent.

[A]

Nobody has. I don't buy anything commercial. Everything is personalized when it comes to my scent. And every man I've been with, I will create them a perfume. So it's like, here's your scent, you know, so that like, that's our thing. I upgrade my men like big time.

[B]

But anyway, so that's a hack right there. Cuz everyone buys the same cologne, you know, you could tell.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like whether it's Gucci or whatever cologne,

[A]

I'm like, oh, that's Dior. Oh yeah. No, literally, I know my scents so well. So I'm like, no, I. I will wear my own thing. I mean, to the extent that people are, they'll come up to me in the street and be like, I'm so sorry to stop you, but I used to be that girl until I learned what the enigma was. And by enigma I mean why is that person so enigmatic? Being enigmatic is what Marilyn Monroe was. She'd walk into a room and you couldn't place her, you couldn't put her in a box, you couldn't understand her. She was mysterious. So I am Marilyn Monroe day.

[B]

Yeah. She was one of a guy. People still talk to her to this day. That's how like impactful she was.

[A]

Oh, she's so amazing. I went to her grave. Oh yeah, it's here in la.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes. Manoa as wild and it was so emotional, I just cried. I think it's a video on my Instagram. If you scroll down, I was wearing like a pink outfit and I just cried so much. I didn't know I was gonna feel that. But yeah, it was wild. So when you walk into a room, you do the Marilyn Monroe effect, but you have something that stands out that you wear. So it could be the wildest earrings or the craziest hat or like, you know, you wear a big scent and then you walk in and you go straight towards your thing. You, you sort of walk with like a, an essence. You walk with an energy aura. And when you do that, you are naturally magnetizing to you. People who are wanting to be a part of your world who are like, wow, what is that? It's more what is that? Than who. It's like what just came in. So whenever you see a woman walk into a restaurant or dude and the people's heads are just turning, it's their energy, but they know these things.

[B]

Yeah. Have you seen dudes being able to pull that off?

[A]

Yeah, all the time. Guys who wear slightly out their. And like, they'll, you know, they'll, they'll dress nice. But there's something offbeat. But it's not offbeat. It's cool. It's fashion, but it stands out. And it's like, I mean, after this, everyone's going to come on your show and be wearing Bjorn's scarf. I'll be like, Everyone you see is a fan of your show. Be like, I learned that from her. I'm wearing something crazy. But you just add it to your thing so that when you go in a room, you instantly stand out. You instantly have something which sets you apart from everybody else.

[B]

Yeah, everyone's just copying each other these days. I mean, you got to have your own personal brand. Right? That's super important.

[A]

Personal branding is everything. I mean, you have a really strong personal brand. So if we look at you, you're always wearing Digital social hour. Everywhere you go, people know you for your amazing look, the way that you present yourself, the particular glasses that you wear. Every single detail is a part of your brand. Okay, we go here. There's you. I'm guessing this is right. This is like a mini you. So your brand is everywhere. The backing right here, everything. The coloring of it. It's blue. We know your personal brand. That's how fierce it is. Now we'll look at Virgin. Virgin is not a personal brand, but it's a brand all red. When you think of any person who has built a business, their personal brand is really strong in the way it comes across. And it's public and it's online, and they're in media and they're everywhere. They have worked on themselves in a way of being public and worked on their authority. Authority is everything. When you look at somebody who has a strong personal brand, Gary Vee, we know him by the Five because that's a strong personal brand. When you look at me, you know me by scripting, we know people for different things. Okay? So everybody has something which is their thing. We call it your usp, your unique selling point. So what is your unique selling point? And somebody here will sit with me and some of my choirs when they come to me. Lovely. My selling point is that my unique selling point is that I help people get over limiting beliefs. I'm like. Like the other 999,000 coaches that do that. What else do you do? And then we finally, after many sessions, find something like Mel Robbins, the high five, Garrett v the five, Grant Cardone 10X, Natasha Graziano scripting. We each have something which is going to be in books, podcasts, everywhere, on all sorts of interviews, on TV and in publications. Because you have something so unique which the world wants to know.

[B]

Yeah, I don't really chase trends anymore. I just want clothes that work, feel good. And last I stopped buying a lot of clothes. I started buying better ones. Stuff that fits right, holds up, and I actually wear. That's why I've been going with quints. They've got basics. I actually use organic cotton sweaters, clean polos, lightweight jackets. Stuff that holds up to daily wear and still looks good. Quality, solid, and everything's built to last. What makes Quince different is how they do it. They work directly with top factories. Cut out the middleman. And you're not paying for brand markov, just quality clothing. And they only partner with factories that meet high standards for craftsmanship and ethical production. Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.comdsh for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.comdsh now available in Canada too. Free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.comdsh. How's the scripting going? You still doing it every day.

[A]

I love it. Have you tried it?

[B]

Yeah. So you came on my show two years ago and I tried it. I like it. I still do it, actually.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it's so beautiful because journaling has been proven scientifically to change your life. Journaling has been proved to help you in so many ways, physically, spiritually, and mentally, emotionally, to get through through things, to overcome situations. Scripting is a version of journaling. Scripting is the such poor form of podcast host. I had my first asylum. Scripting has been proven to help you achieve your goals faster because you're writing down in the past tense exactly what you want to achieve, as though you've already achieved it. So you'll be like, I became the number one podcast, or I became the number one salesperson. I became the number one in my field. And you'll write about it as though it's already happened. So it will sound something like, I became the number one salesperson, Utah, and I made $100,000 a week and I built a multimillion dollar business. But here's the trick. When you're writing it down, not only is it A in the past tense, B, pen to paper or pencil to paper rather than typing, because it activates the ventralateral prefrontal cortex in your brain. And your brain doesn't know as you're writing it down in the past tense, and all these things are happening at the same time, these actions. Your brain doesn't know what you're writing down, whether it's real or imaginary, and it stores it as a memory.

[B]

It's powerful. Before I started the show, I made a Dream Hunter list.

[A]

You did?

[B]

I was actually reviewing it last Week.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

67 out of 100 have been on the show.

[A]

Kidding.

[B]

Yeah. If I showed you that list three years ago, you would have, like, not you, but people would have laughed. They're like, yeah, good luck getting these people on the show. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, it's funny. I know what you mean. Like. Like when we. And you get those people who are naysayers, and then when you stick to it and we are big manifesters, we write it down. You know, you put on paper, I'm going to do this. I'm going to that. You wrote your. Your 100 and you will tick off all 100. Yeah, I know.

[B]

I'm talking huge names like, oh, I've been laughed out of certain rooms. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And you know how I started? I used to film on iPhones. You came on then. Thank you for showing me love early on.

[A]

Always. I think this is my third time on here.

[B]

Yeah, you've been on a few times. So you came on early. You took a chance on me, and I'll always appreciate it. You showed up at McLaren merch.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You were in a Vegas girl, literally.

[A]

And I was like, I'm gonna go and be on this amazing guy's show. And like, that was the start of our friendship.

[B]

Yep. I was like, taught me scripting Tommy writing in the past tab. It worked. Look at the show now. It's crazy.

[A]

I'm so proud of me. The show is so insane. Everyone watches it. Like, your WhatsApp groups are just insane. They're so big. There's so many entrepreneurs in there. It's like there's so much business happening. If I ever need to, like, promote a business or find out about a business or an idea, you just drop a little comment in the group. I did the other day. And Larry, who's here with me now, my literal godfather, the founder of E. Has also been on your show. I put a comment about something I was, you know, going to be doing soon. And, you know, Larry foot is coming back straight away, and it creates excitement. And people start talking and start replying. Is he have a great group.

[B]

The power of connection. And people always ask me why I do these connections, why I do these intros for free and I don't charge. And I believe in karma, you know, I believe will come back to me. So when two people in the group chat, meet up and do business together, I think that will come back to me.

[A]

I believe it does. And actually some people who. Who meet in that group who perhaps, like, let's Say an IPO is happening, or perhaps somebody was investing in a business or gonna do, like a big affiliate deal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody at some point is going to give you a call and go send me your bank details.

[B]

Yeah, I hope so, because there have been.

[A]

It would be me. Don't you worry that that's the kind of thing I do? Shot. Is that not something that I do? It is. I literally. This is one of my, like, girlfriends here who I also work with, and I called on there and I said, hey, send me your bank details. Do you remember this person you introduced me to? I coached her. Send me my details. Yeah, that I'm loyal because I want her to send me more people. I want her to show up every day and be like, you know what? What else can we do together? So now whenever I have offers, I'll call Shah and a couple of my other girlfriends who are, like, really powerful into selling, like, have their own shit going on, and then they'll go and call their clients. And I'm just loyal like that. You know, I don't ever want to be that person who. Who is sneaking behind people's backs. Because when you take, the universe just takes right back from you.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I mean, every time I give, I just receive abundance back. So even on times where I've had a sales girl work for me and she pushed the commission crazy, and they, you know, they'll be like this, we did really well on this. Can I get a little bit more? And I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna do it. And then abundance comes back in.

[B]

The more you give, the more you get. And it goes both ways. When you look at scammers or people that make money in the fairest ways, they always lose it.

[A]

You know what? You're so right. And that comes down to give more value than what you are charging. When you are giving a product, selling a product, you have to give immense value in order to receive more gold back. It goes back to Napoleon Hill. You must always give more value in the services, in the products, in the things rendered that you are doing than what you are asking for in your weight in gold. And that's how we make money. That's how we make money fast. Because I give so much value to my clients, I give so much value to helping them build their personal brand, helping them get out that bad mindset, helping them build a business, helping them get exposure and be seen online. And I give so much that they'll be like, whoa, that's like a. A huge package that you're doing for this. And I'm like, yeah, because I believe in you. Yeah. So when people come and say, hey, can I get a discount? I'm like, a discount off. The discount is crazy.

[B]

I don't do discounts. Also.

[A]

Yeah, no, I don't believe in yourself. You can't. You either see the value. Like, you know, okay, for example, with podcasts, we have shows which are very successful. We have a list stars on. And if you have a guest who is completely unknown, has never invested in themselves online, has never bothered to grow their social media, hasn't put in the sweat, blood, and tears that people like you and I have gone through financially, emotionally, physically, spiritually to get to where we are. Okay. Our partners, our world, they know what we've been through that you get. Somebody just says, hey, can I come on your show? Of course. But you are unknown. You will kill my ratings and kill my. My reviews, frankly. So respectfully, my production team is going to charge you. And boom. Then they're like, why am I paying? But okay, come back to me in one year when you've invested in yourself, Got a coach, got out there, gone and played. Paid to play on bigger podcasts. Now come to me.

[B]

100.

[A]

Know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, 100. We have costs. We got editing costs, we got travel costs. You coming on. We're losing money. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So I say that to them, same shit. Like, it costs me more to have a guest on than it does. Like, it's a podcast. Really starts for fun. Until you do big ads. But then the big ads want to sponsor my celebrity shows. They don't want to sponsor the random person. So I have to take the loss somewhere else, shuffle it around. So for sure, if someone is watching today and you know, you want to get on bigger shows, hit up the big shows like Sean's. Hit up the big shows. Like, man, hit up the big shows and ask to go on. But be prepared to pay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

While you are growing. And I believe in the pay to play model more than anything because it gets you on stages, OPS and opp, other people's podcasts. And when you go on OPS and opp, it will change your life.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I think that one of the best investments I made was Mastermind.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Dan Fleishman's.

[A]

I spoke at the 100m.

[B]

Oh, that's the first one I joined.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. That changed my life. I was in that When I was 20 years old, I would be youngest one. Spent half my net worth on it at the time because I was young and only had it's a hundred thousand to join.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was just surrounded by just all these successful people and just that mindset and that frequency shift just.

[A]

Yeah. Spoke at that I love.

[B]

And now Zen and I are friends and we do a lot of stores.

[A]

I know he loves you.

[B]

So paying for rooms like that is what I'm saying is, is worth it.

[A]

You know, it is worth it because you get in the room, pay for proximity, get in the room, be around the people, rubbing shoulders with the right people. If you want to go on a bigger stage, you've got to invest in yourself to go on those stages. Sometimes until you have the name. But once you've been on Sean Kelly's podcast, once you've been on Natasha Graziano's podcast, once you've been on Dave Meltzer's podcast, now you can go to another show and say, I've been on these three now I'm kind of going to put you on just because you've been on Sean.

[B]

No, it's crazy to see how my show is sort of a stepping stone sometimes to some of these guys going on like Rogue and Chris Williamson. All the other even bigger.

[A]

Seen that happen.

[B]

Yeah. Gary Bra is a good example. It's just pretty nuts.

[A]

Yeah, he's a great guy.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out to Breco changed my life.

[A]

Yeah. You've done like you did all the.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Saying.

[B]

Did the gene test, did the blood test.

[A]

Is he still with TedX?

[B]

No.

[A]

Dang. So that was real.

[B]

That was another friendship business partnership turned up.

[A]

Oh, it's wild. Cuz GR's also real cool and he's been on my show but I. Yeah,

[B]

that one was tricky cuz it was public.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that gets dicey. Yeah.

[A]

I try and keep of my personal life offline.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because I'm such a public person. So people be like, what the are you talking about? Everything I want you to see is offline. But anything that I don't want someone to see, I just keep offline. I don't believe in hanging out my dirty laundry online. Like I feel like there's certain things which just should be kept under the rug and just like, you know, and I'm the most open person about everything. I'm open that I was a webcam girl 10, 12 years ago. I'm open that I was, you know, in that industry and have a sex tape out there. I don't give a fuck. I talk about it. It's part of my story. It's who I am today. There is no shock, you know, don't start dating me and tell me I didn't know you had a sex tape. Why did you not do your research? I talk about it on stage. And this is the third time I've spoke about it on your show. I talk about it all over the place. You never want to hide your skeletons. You get ahead of them so no one can come up to you and go, I didn't know you were a webcam girl. But I talk about it, sweetheart. It's how I used the money to transfer into other things and, you know, build things. And so I think just getting ahead of where you were and becoming the new you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Don't be ashamed of your past. Right. Everything happens. What is it for you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

For a reason.

[A]

To add it for a reason. You're right. Well, either happens to you or for you. So make it happen for you.

[B]

Yeah, don't have the victim mindset.

[A]

Fuck no. Victim mindset is the worst. I was the victim. I used to say, oh, my God, you're the problem. You're the problem. But watch this. When I point the finger, go, you're the problem. 1, 2, 3, fingers are pointing back at who? At me. Who is the problem. I'm the problem. So even though they might be doing something to inflict your reaction. No, no, I can control my reaction. And I. I also am the problem for the way that I'm responding to this attracted this. You can look at it however you want. Cause, effect, Cause effect. So I like to get ahead of things and be like, okay, I know I'd be triggered by that. So I'm not going to react in that situation and never playing victim. Because when you are a victim, you will attract more victim shite to you. And all of a sudden you're wondering why your life is crashing down, but you're playing the victim. Oh, woe is me. Life is so terrible. I just got out of that years ago. Just decided I'm going to take responsibility. I'm an eloquent, educated woman, and I am going to take responsibility for the woman that I am.

[B]

I love that. That's powerful. You and I know a lot of successful people. I've never met a successful, successful person with a victim mindset.

[A]

You're right. I don't think I have either. Because if they did, they wouldn't be a multimillionaire, they wouldn't be a billionaire, they wouldn't be a super successful entrepreneur or star. If you play the victim, you put yourself in a vulnerable position to have more attacks happen. I. I once did that. I was on that show Big Brother.

[B]

Oh, you were on that.

[A]

Oh, my God, I gotta watch that one. Oh, horrendous. When I was 21. So we're talking like freaking 13 years in. Okay? So, like, no. So I was the first out to check this out, right? So it was horrendous. It was the worst thing I ever did. But here's what happened. When I did that show, instead of being empowered, I was super young, didn't know better when I came out. That's how I got famous in the UK to start. When I came out of there, instead of being empowered and being like a real, like, badass, who I am today, because I don't know that version of me by them, right? I've. I've shed that skin 10 times before. I am Natasha Graziano. I had a whole different name back then. Like, anyway, the point is, when I was her, in that moment, in that energy, I played the victim because I was coming out first. So I walked out like, oh, no. And I got booed. When you get booed on stage, I will tell you now, you will never get booed again because you will learn from it and you will never allow yourself to get booed again because you played the victim, which is why you got booed. So if you play the victim and you play their own. No. It's like when you're scared of a dog, the dog will go for you. If you show vulnerability, if you show the victim mentality, people will go for you. You can't do that. So if I come out of there, like, what's up? They might have booed, but they start to cheer. Okay, so me going from that vulnerable, weak victim girl to then years later, up my whole life and it all coming crashing down. Being in debt hundreds of thousands, having a sickness, being bed bound, losing everything, being a single mother pushed away the whole world and my family going through these awful things in my life, I could have played the victim. But instead I found the inspiration inside of me to go on and inspire other people to go on and inspire their communities. And I became a motivational speaker. But who would have thought out of that victim girl would have come this motivational woman that you see today?

[B]

Crazy. Now you're one of the highest paid motivational speakers in the world. Nuts, right?

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Wow. And that was just 13 years ago, right?

[A]

You can change at any point, at any point, you can change your life. It just takes you deciding, you know, What? Today's the day. And you don't have to go the full 100% today. You just get 1% better today, 1% better the next day, 1% better. The 1% rule. Can you get 1% better every single day? And if you can, you will be at 100% in 100 days. And all of a sudden, you are a whole different person. I say to people, I'm so sorry that you don't know the version of me now, because I'm not the same person that I was 10 years ago, let alone yesterday. People don't know that version of me then. And I love her, but she's not me.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, we are constantly evolving, learning more, right? I look at some of the texts I sent even a year ago, and I'm, like, cringing. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Same. I look back, like, looking at some of the shit, I would say, like, two potential clients on my. That's so not it. You don't openly read back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. So the best thing about Instagram is you can press unsend.

[B]

Oh, thank God they added that because they didn't always have that.

[A]

We need.

[B]

That was a fire feature.

[A]

Well, I have had, like, celebrities come on my show now, who I hit up in 2021, like, just started the show and I was like, hey, taking chances on you. Right. Whereas, like, now it's like, hey, bro, 25 of your friends have been on, like, you know.

[B]

Yeah, I have the same thing. Yeah, I'll unsend it.

[A]

And I unsend it. Resend it. Yes.

[B]

That's funny. That's funny.

[A]

You have to. There is no way that I'm gonna leave those messages on thread because you

[B]

can't have three unanswered in a row. You gotta unsend see a blue.

[A]

Nobody wants to see a blue when you're dating or in business. Unsend, Unsend, Unsend. And if you're in the text thread, don't do the delete thing because then it says message deleted.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, that's real.

[B]

Because text, you only have five minutes to unsend. Right? Or something like an hour.

[A]

I don't know actually about it. I know you can shake your phone. It will like.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Certain things about texting, definitely on email, but. But if you do, that's on iPhone. But if you are texting somebody and you press delete for everyone. So it says delete for me or delete for everyone. Only that feature only lasts For X amount of time. I'm not sure how long. I think it's like 24 hours or however long it is, don't quote me. But it's something in that vein. And when you press unsend, it will then basically delete for everyone. It deletes for everyone. But it says deleted message. And so now I'm like, what was that?

[B]

That's why?

[A]

Or did you just delete? Like, what did you tell me? I've had people in business go crazy at me who have unsent things and it not deleted properly. Like, some parts of it wouldn't go. And I'm like, what happened? And then they'll be like, sorry, I had a complete breakdown. I can see that. Only one part of your message. How bad were the other parts?

[B]

Wow. Do you think you have trust issues because of stuff like that?

[A]

You know what? The truth is? I think I actually am realizing I still have embedded trust issues from trauma of. I mean, look, I'll go all the way back. I've never told anybody this. So when I was in my mom's womb, bear in mind, the womb is the breath of life. It's the womb of life, right? The earth is the womb. I was in my mom's belly and I was eight months. So one month away from being Jew. And my mom walked in on my dad with the nanny.

[B]

No way.

[A]

So she sees upstairs in the house, shoes outside the door. She sees my dad's shoes outside the nanny's door. And she's like, that doesn't make any sense. Why would his shoes be outside the nanny's door facing inward? Anyway, she opened the door and so I. Sorry, dad, I hope you didn't see that. But anyway, it's like, I love him still. But that created unbearable trauma for me. I was born into a world through stress. I was born two days later while he said so, I came out early. So when someone says, like, you have trust issues, it's like, bro, you try coming into the world through a trust issue.

[B]

Yeah, you know, so that's crazy, right?

[A]

It doesn't really. So I have to work on it all the time. So I'm like constantly working on trust issues. But at least I'm working through them. And I'm like, there present with it. And I'm not like trying to hide it or something. But, you know, I'm better. I'm way better. But in business too, like, I'm really careful with who I let into my circle. Like, I don't have too many people around me. For that reason, because I just don't trust people enough. So I keep the same people around me and it's just, I don't really like.

[B]

No, you gotta move smart at a certain level in business, especially these days with like handlers and people trying to control your life.

[A]

I mean, I know you are the same, you're exactly the same. Like you think the same like that, like you just can't. There's too many people who like see too much and just like want to assassinate what you have just because of your success. So yeah, I also want to take a sales call in front of a friend, in front of my family, in front of a partner.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Will not take a sales call. You know why? Because when I'm talking about multi six figure, seven figure deals on the phone, right? This could be for anyone. Whether you're selling real estate or a coaching program or anything in between. When you sit in someone else's energy, imagine I'm sitting there going, hey, okay, so wait, are you good with a million? You're going to set, you're going to wire a million for this program tomorrow? The person sitting next to you, right, Ms. X, Mr. X, they perhaps are a hairstylist who have never seen a million dollars in one transaction because they charge $120. Now maybe that hairstylist has a whole business. So they have seen that kind of transaction. But if you are sitting next to somebody that has a career or a job, that has never even seen transactions of that kind in their lifetime time, let alone in a two minute deal or a two hour deal, it is unheard of. So what happens is subconsciously, indirectly, on accident, they end up sending what we call and I have it on the evil eye and they send it to you by mistake because they can't fathom those numbers. Now they're not even sitting there thinking, they're not even going, they're going, I wish I was her, I wish I earned that money. They're really thinking innocent things. They're going, I want to do it, I want to do that. Oh, why do they have it and not me? And in their mind, that little like person inside them, that like evil character that sneaks up on them, imposter syndrome essentially is sitting there telling them, why them? Why not you? And now they're sending energy and thoughts have frequency. I never make a call in front of somebody. I just feel like the evil eyes on you.

[B]

That is great advice. I'm gonna start doing that.

[A]

Never. I will, I will not sit and do a single Deal. I'll be like, hey, I'm gonna hit you right back or I'm gonna go out the room. I won't even do it in front of a partner because again, the partner might be making way more money than you, but all of a sudden they're threatened by your success or they're making way less than you and they are super insecure about your success. So I just have a golden rule. I do not take a single sales call. And if I'm on a sales call, I will tell them. I'll text you the numbers. If there is no way of me getting off the airplane with certain people, I'll be like, I'll text you the numbers now. And then I will even pretend, I'll even mute the phone like this while I'm on the phone with the people around me and be like, yes. So it'll be like a hundred dollars so that the audience doesn't have the evil eye that it was a hundred thousand dollars. So I'll. I'll be like, you're 100, you know, but that obviously means 100k. I don't even do business for under, like, you know.

[B]

Yeah, like you. High ticket.

[A]

High ticket. Although saying that I do have a low ticket. Oh, yeah, coming.

[B]

Is that the AI twin?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So how does that work for people watching?

[A]

Well, you like AI, right?

[B]

Yeah, I love. I use it every day.

[A]

Right. Like, how do you use AI for health?

[B]

So I'll import my blood work, I'll import my scans. Yeah, it gives phenomenal health. Yeah, you can take blood work. Right. Download the PDF, import it into whatever AI use, ask for holistic advice. Because I don't take any western medicine. And then it gives phenomenal advice. And I do that on Claw, Gemini, Grok, and chatgpt. So I get four different opinions, and usually they're all pretty similar opinions. I use it for business when I'm preparing for gas. Like, yeah, it'll summarize podcasts for me. It'll summarize books.

[A]

How do you get to summarize a podcast?

[B]

You basic. There's a Chrome extension. So you go on YouTube, click the Chrome extension, summarize it the whole episodes, gives you the key talking points. Because to watch a two hour podcast. Oh, and I have to watch five for my guests.

[A]

You watch.

[B]

Well, watch. I use the AI to. So that would take a lot of time.

[A]

Wow, that's insane. Okay, well, talking of things and duplicating, this is exactly what I created. I may have done something a little bit batshit crazy. But I cloned myself.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I decided that everybody for years has been asking me about my coaching. I want your love advice. I want your dating advice. I want your business advice. Show me how to grow my name. Show me how to build my personal brand. And there's just so many people that I can't physically in a week get to everybody and even in a year. So I was like, people want me around the clock. They want me 247 when I make my twin. So for the last year, I've been working really closely with training my twin, who is she looks like me, talks like me. She may as well smell like me. I mean, she has everything just like me. She is phenomenal. She coaches like me. She has my framework in business. She has my framework of my thinking in all the answers. I even ask her advice, and it gives me exactly what I would say, that it's wildly on point. We've done so, so much work with her. She sounds like me. I mean, it's literally talking to me. And you sit there and you're like, whoa. I actually feel like I'm with Natasha. So if you have a question, like, at 11pm at night, and they're like, oh, my boyfriend's driving me crazy, you don't have to wait until your session in two weeks or you don't have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to work with me. You can just go and get this for, like, I think it's 30 bucks a month and you can have unlimited questions and just talk to me and just ask things, and I'm sitting right there, Looks like me, sounds like me. It's my twin, and it's dope. It's like, yeah, you get this coaching for, like, I mean, two figures.

[B]

I could probably see a lot of people copying you, if that works.

[A]

Yeah. It's actually really cool. I just want you to use these company.

[B]

Yeah, please.

[A]

It's phenomenal. I will actually. I'll put you in a text right after this. It is so good because it's somebody who can just talk and, like, they are you. And so even I'll. I'll ask my own advice. I'll be like, hey, what should I do? And then it tells me what to do. Or it's so great. And it's good for every single area in love and health and wealth and money and finances and success and in marriage and everything. And she's so advanced, and she even has my tone, like, when I'm like, in my motivational side or when I'm like, Super soft. She does meditations for me.

[B]

No word.

[A]

Yeah. She can put you to sleep at night.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I really hope that it doesn't go further than that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I didn't even think about it.

[B]

Yeah. What if someone asked it for.

[A]

I think it will probably phone sex or something. It probably will say like chat GBT does like have you ever tried with chat G?

[B]

Yeah, like. Well, not to upset. I've asked it some. I asked it about the Epstein files, like because I was looking for survivors to interview and I said I can't do that.

[A]

So I asked it for fun. So I asked it one night. I wanted to see like for fun and I was going to take a picture of it and film the whole thing and put it on my Instagram. But yeah, no, it's one of those things that like, you know, you want to. You like the twin is something that you want to either have yourself if you're watching this and you want to do it, like get your own twin. It is so good. Your AI has been so phenomenal. I am so grateful. Like I absolutely seat love it. So yeah, it's just been, it's been so cool. So my twin is out now so you can literally go online and go and talk to me and not have to pay multiple.

[B]

Yeah, I love the audience because imagine having an Natasha twin in your pocket or like Alex Hormozi or Elong Musk, whoever you idolize. Right, right. And imagine having that for 30am in your pocket.

[A]

A hundred. Like literally you don't need to pay the bigger prices if you're going to have this, you know, version of me. But the one to one is for the top levels. It's for entrepreneurs who are like, you know what, I'm ready to invest in myself and you know, maybe you're just starting out who want to get ahead in where they are. It's like exposure. You're paying to get someone to show you results based coach of how you can transform your life and then scale it. Scale your business.

[B]

Yeah. You had some big names to your one to one. Yeah, big names been cool. Like that's impressive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A lot of people can learn those clients.

[A]

Right. And you know, I think what we do is, is we give to those kind of clients like the big A list stars a lot of the time, you know, some pay but some of them, they were gifts at first.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But those are the ones that bring your other 100 high tech in.

[B]

Yeah, that's how I approach the podcast too.

[A]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[B]

Certain guys you know, you're inviting on because they got a network, right. They're gonna bring some heavy hitters.

[A]

Right? And I love that. And like, bring those people off. Yeah, please. We love that. I mean, it's so fun. Like podcasting is everything.

[B]

It changed my life. Oh my God, the networking is insane. I'm learning so much. I had on a billionaire right before you just like, God, I love it. It's crazy.

[A]

I know you, you will actually just sitting and listening to people is like. And you are such a sponge for information. I feel like you're super bright and you pick up information and then.

[B]

Yeah, that's the Aquarius to me, I think. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, definitely. I mean, the thing with knowledge. Knowledge is just knowledge until applied and then it becomes power. You've got to apply the knowledge in order for it to change your life. Otherwise it just literally sits in the bank of your brain and it's just there and it doesn't get applied. So the trick is, when you hear something, go share it. So take this episode. Go share it with five friends instantly so that you can share something and go, hey, watch this. And by the way, I'm gonna just like give you something that I loved in it. Go to like point three or like, I love where this. We were learning about this particular topic. And when you regurgitate information to people, it is embedded in your brain and you learn it faster yourself. It sticks and now you can take it out into the world.

[B]

Yeah, I've seen that you learn the most from teaching. It's ironic, right? But I'm all about taking action. That's what separates you and I from like. Cuz there's people that consume a ton of information, but they don't take action.

[A]

No, like they. If they just watched your show. Every single is once a week.

[B]

Once a day.

[A]

You're it. Once a day. Day.

[B]

Yeah, we used to do two of that.

[A]

Wait, seven a week?

[B]

Yeah, we used to do three of that actually.

[A]

Seven guests a week.

[B]

At least. Yeah.

[A]

Holy. I didn't even know that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where have I been?

[B]

We got a four month backlog. It's crazy. So you film like how 1,200 episodes. I film two to three times a week. Four episodes a day.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

This was the fifth one today and they're all long, about 45.

[A]

Okay. Beautiful. Wow.

[B]

Yeah, but you got to take action. Like listen to the podcast, but then put it into AI and ask, how can I take action?

[A]

Exactly. Like take an episode and do something with it. So here is a great example. Listen to your podcast every single day. It's seven days a week. Learn a new thing from every single thing that you listen. Write it down. And now go take it out in the world on your Instagram. Be like, love this. On the digital social hour podcast. And by the way, it changed my life. Like, go out there and use your knowledge. Like, that is what you've got to do. Watch my show, and you're going to learn about the law of attraction secrets. You're going to learn about, like, mindset. You can learn about, like, how to better your life through these certain secrets of the world that have been hidden from so many people. So you go and do different things and listen to different things so that you learn different things. And if you do something different, you'll get a different result, because if you always did what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.

[B]

Wow. That's a bar right there. Hello. Yeah. You crushed the mindset stuff. You have on some brilliant people on your show.

[A]

Thank you. Yeah, I really love it. I'm like, yeah, I'm so excited to just, like, when are you coming on? Eventually.

[B]

I know I got to come on. Next time I'm out here.

[A]

Just literally next time you're here, we'll just.

[B]

Your studio is right there. So I know I fly into Burbank all the time.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Five minutes from here.

[A]

Okay. Okay. We're doing it like it's you. So next time we're here, set aside, tell me to come, and then we'll just switch it.

[B]

Yeah, we'll do it for sure.

[A]

100%. Oh, my God. Are we gonna do, like. Oh, my God. The Fine. Finally, like, that feeling like, for. It was because you're podcasting so much in Vegas. Do you go on other people's shows?

[B]

Rarely. I'm selective. You gotta be.

[A]

You have to.

[B]

I saw Tony Robbins. I think it was. Yeah. Tony Robbins only does five podcasts a year.

[A]

That's like.

[B]

He chooses five shows a year because you don't want to be on every podcast. Then you gotta leave your brand. Yeah. So it's like a game.

[A]

That's interesting because some people, like, I want to go on 150 podcasts, and they go and pay people to go and put the 150. But it's like the most random.

[B]

The same message over and over. You don't have 150 different messages.

[A]

No.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I feel like when you go on a show, you're gonna give it something every time, and it's something different.

[B]

You Got to give something new because people watch the same show, so they're gonna see you twice, basically say the same thing. Like, what the hell? What is that?

[A]

So how many will you do a year?

[B]

I'm gonna stick to one a day for now. We might go down to 20 a day if the numbers make sense. I mean, 20amonth. Sorry.

[A]

Wow. No, I mean, how much is. Will you go on as well?

[B]

Oh, I'll probably do 10 to 15 a year.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

Yeah, that's actually really quality choice.

[A]

That's like one a month.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm going on some big ones. I just went on Laura Cleary. She's out here.

[A]

Oh, cool. Yeah, we have to do some, like.

[B]

Yeah, she did one for you. Yeah.

[A]

Maria Menounos is.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

That's a brilliant one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, she's amazing. She's come on my show. I've been on hers. Who else's was really transformative? Bradley's.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

Yeah, that's a really good.

[B]

He's been on mine, but I gotta go on his.

[A]

Yeah, right. I've been on his possibly. God, it goes back there, doesn't it? Like, years. So many things that we've done over the time. I love shows that Vegas has got it, though. They have the best.

[B]

I think we're number. We're number one or number two for pods right now.

[A]

Are you?

[B]

I think so. I wonder if they need five shows in Vegas right now that are huge.

[A]

Oh, oh, oh. You're saying Vegas is number. I was gonna say. Aren't you number one, too?

[B]

I'm either. I'm top three in Vegas. Yeah. We got Hodge Twins, Iced coffee Hour. Bradley. Yeah. Dave Meltzer, Eric Warwick.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Cool.

[B]

Yeah. There's a big dog. Poor Mosey.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Some big dogs in Vegas.

[A]

You've got some. Yeah, you do. You have some really big shows there. Yeah, it's interesting. I just. I love it. Podcast has changed the world for everyone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Podcasting is the way forwards. Like, I literally. I love having people on my show and just learning and absorbing information and going into a zone and taking that energy and just like, it will change my day. No longer, when I cook, do I go on the phone to a girlfriend and chat shit. I will press play on a podcast that I pre saved ahead of the week. I got 10 to 15 episodes that I need to get through in that week. And I will make time, say 2x

[B]

speed when I walk when I'm at the gym.

[A]

Love the 2x speed.

[B]

It's so much better depending on the show. Sometimes 1 5.

[A]

Yeah. 10x. Where? It's my name, darling. I only need one. I'm fine.

[B]

You bring the energy.

[A]

There's some people who talk fast who don't need it. But if you have a really slow voice and you talk, you're going to 2x it.

[B]

Yeah. So do you think guys should pay for dates even if they're younger than you?

[A]

So I believe that the man on a first date should pay hands down. Like, I just want to be spoiled, but if a guy is younger than you, then, honey, I'm going to be your sugar mama. Hey, I don't even care. Like, I. I just am successful enough to know that at your age, if you're 10 years younger than me, you may not, but you might be depending on if you're like a superstar or an athlete. Like, you are probably not going to be earning as much as a girl who is older than you in that situation. So therefore, you are likely to pay for things for them. But would I allow an older guy if I was dating an older guy, and bear in mind I married one 24 years older than me the first time. Would I have it any other way where I would pay for him? Hell no. If you are older than me, best believe you got your together. I want a house, a car and everything else. And you are gonna provide. But baby, if you're younger, come to mama.

[B]

Okay. Would you date someone way younger than you?

[A]

I already am. He's 10 years younger than. Well, a bit less than 10 years younger than me. But, like, we are so compatible. And I love it. And I just say to people, if you are dating any age, it doesn't matter. It's a soul thing. You can date someone 10 years younger than you. 10 years older, 20 years older, 20 years younger. But if you're dating someone, just know you're going to be at different points in your life. You're gonna have, like, points of confliction, and you just have to, like, work around those things. But ultimately, I am not looking to be your mom. I made jokes about being a sugar mama, but, like, I am not looking to be your mama. If you behave like a king, I can be in my queen energy and I can be in my feminine. If you behave like a boy, I have to be your mother and I will send you home to your mother.

[B]

And that's your masculine energy, right?

[A]

Yeah. So that brings up my masculine energy. So I'm not looking to date a boy who is, you know, Acting like a boy. 25, 26, 24, whatever. Like, age for me is irrelevant as long as you are a man and you allow me to hang my pants at the door because I'm one of the most alpha females you're gonna meet. And that is hard for some guys today.

[B]

Oh, yeah, 100.

[A]

Like, I need a real masculine man, but that doesn't mean a hard face. Like, that means he is so loving and soft, but, my God, he's masculine. He's gonna pick you up and just.

[B]

Could you date someone that didn't make as much money as you?

[A]

Yep. That is so crazy to say, but yep, I could. Because if they have ambition to make money, they will grow. And if you're in my presence, I assure you, darling, you will be a millionaire. I make people millionair. Are you going to make money? The first thing I do when I sit down with someone that I'm dating is I go through how they make money. What are your multiple streams of income? You only have two. Okay, problem. You need seven. You need seven streams of income. So if we're dating, what are we building together? What's our family business going to look like? Are we going to get married? And where is this going? Like, I am looking at us as a brand, as a power couple. If it doesn't fit into that, ciao.

[B]

Yeah, I feel. Wow. So you get in there with them?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I'm cool with it. Open up the books. Open up the books straight away. And also talk to me if you're going through it. Don't, like, suffer inside.

[B]

A lot of men hide, though.

[A]

Like, they do. And I'm like, yo, like, it's okay. I'll just invest in you for a while. We'll, like, do something. But, like, don't. Don't bring it out later and be like, you know, and resentful that I'm making money.

[B]

Like, they're scared that you'll leave them. That's why they hide it. Oh, yeah. That's why guys feel shame because they're

[A]

like, the breadwinner, and I just don't care. I'm like, you will be the breadwinner one day. And then I also empower them by letting them know, like, first of all, I don't do sales calls around them. As I told you, I don't let them know what's in my bank account, and I don't let them know what's coming in the daily. Like, I just keep it quiet. I used to be like, babe, oh, my God. I did a 200, 000. Deal again today. Like, I used to be like, really out there and now I'm like, that really kills a man's like masculinity. He's not making as much as you. And if he is, then he's empowered by you. But he also don't like it. He's threatened by the fact that you make money. You don't need him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The best piece of advice I have to give to women is earn your own money. I don't care what you're doing, whether you are a housewife or whether you are somebody who is building a business and you're with a man or you're looking to marry for money. Build your own business. Don't have your man buy you bags and watches. Have your man invest in your business. So whenever I coach women, I'm like, okay, you have sugar daddy. I'm like, what do you just buy for you? She's like, five Louis Vuitton bags. I'm like, slow clap. I'm like, what is that doing for your life? Get your man or the sugar daddy, wherever the you're dealing with, to invest in your business because that is going to change your life. You never want to be in a position where you can't leave a man because he provides such an insane lifestyle that you're now stuck in it. And you're going to be back to driving the Honda Civic with the broken tire. Like, you don't want to be back as that bitch. So upgrade your life and earn your own money and build your own business so you are never suck in a

[B]

marriage or a relationship or Sugar daddies are common date in la. I've never met one.

[A]

I mean, you wouldn't know. Hey, what's up? I'm a sugar daddy. Like, that's so crazy. I think it's very common. Like when I was young, I'm sure I had a sugar daddy. Doesn't mean you have to actually get with them socially, but like, you don't actually like, it's all around you. People will date a guy, particularly older, and he'll be like, providing for her, paying her bills probably. Like, you know, I once had someone like, help me out of the situation. I was a single mom. He like paid my bills and I wasn't having sex with him. Sugar daddies are traditionally like people that you're like hooking up in some way. Like, my body count is super low. And now, oh yeah, like, I talk about this with like my, my partner. I'm like, my body count is like, hugely low. And I'm sometimes embarrassed by, like, how low it would even. Yeah. Because it makes me feel like I haven't actually been out there sexy with people. But the truth is I just keep my self, like, really away from people. Like, I just don't. I've never just.

[B]

Yeah. I'm proud of mine.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wait.

[B]

I'm proud of my body count.

[A]

Is it ridiculously yes?

[B]

No, no, it's super low.

[A]

Okay. It's either a thousand or it's one.

[B]

Yeah, it's one.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wow. Congratulations.

[B]

Wild.

[A]

That's. Yeah, no problem.

[B]

Can you picture me sleeping with a thousand?

[A]

That's really funny in a way. Yeah. Like, you're a cool guy.

[B]

I mean, I get a lot of dms. Yeah. Like, I easily could have, like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Could have done that.

[A]

But you guys are man. I agree. Like, how do you. And I'm the same as a woman. I'm like, it's disgusting. If I get sell a dick pic, which I rarely do. Seldom do I. Because people just don't look at me. Like, I don't. I'm not a thirst trap. I don't go online and post in little tiny bikinis. Rarely I will be wearing something that's like, there's a reason for me in a certain fit. Like, I just don't do the. Like, you know, because I was that and I was selling my body. But I'm not selling my body anymore. And I don't need to sell my body. Like, my body is a part of who I am. As every woman should so proud of her body. But I am not selling that. It is not a thing. And so, you know, if I get a DM of a dick pic, I'm so put off by it.

[B]

Like, I find it a couple guys saying that. That's wild.

[A]

Yeah. Like, well, I don't get so many, but I know girls do, but it's disgusting. But how do you, like, avoid when you get dms? Like, are you just, like, mentally strong with girls?

[B]

It's not even a thought because I'm sapiosexual, so I'm only. It's when you're attracted to intelligence overlooks. So, like, if a girl messages me, like, doesn't mean honey.

[A]

Right. Why can't more men be sepios?

[B]

Yeah. So with friendships too. I prefer intelligence. That's like the number one.

[A]

Oh, I agree. You know, having somebody who's bright and smart and understands is so much better. Like, I want to be brain versus.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I just don't enjoy that, you know, so it's. It's much better to get into my heart and my head, through my. My mind. Like, that's really where I go with it.

[B]

So you can orgasm just from that, can you? Yeah, I just.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What, from, like, someone talking to you?

[B]

Yeah, just from talking.

[A]

But, like, does it have to be sexual chat?

[B]

No, it could just be super intellectual conversation. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. Someone's having an orgasm. Talking about robotics. Someone else having an orgasm, talking about, you know, Einstein's laws. Like, that's incredible. I never would have thought about that.

[B]

Yeah, look into that.

[A]

Wow. That's crazy. I will. I might try that.

[B]

Test it out.

[A]

So my partner, Baby Chalk Einstein.

[B]

Well, this is great. Where can people watch your show? Get your AI and all that?

[A]

Oh, my God. Amazing. So Law of Attraction Secrets Podcast is the name of my show. Y' all can find it right here on the same platform. You're listening to this. It's available everywhere, and that is where you will learn about mindset and bettering your life. Leveling the up.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

And then Natasha Graziano is just my name everywhere right now. You can get my twin and get access to her right now. If you want to just be coached by me and you just want to, like, give it a go. It's so exciting. Oh, my God. Let me know you like it.

[B]

Check it out, guys. Click the link below. Peace. Thanks for watching all the way to the end, guys. Please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.