"I Regret My Viral Days": YouTuber Tells All | Andrew Hales DSH #952

Summary

Digital Social Hour Podcast: "I Regret My Viral Days": YouTuber Tells All | Andrew Hales DSH #952

Release Date: December 5, 2024

Host: Sean Kelly

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In episode #952 of the Digital Social Hour, titled "I Regret My Viral Days: YouTuber Tells All," host Sean Kelly sits down with Andrew Hills, a YouTuber who once enjoyed rapid fame but now reflects critically on his past experiences. This episode offers a deep dive into Andrew's journey through viral success, personal struggles, and his quest for authenticity in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

1. Early Success and the Prank Era

Andrew begins by reminiscing about his "Prank days" during 2012 and 2013, a time when his channel soared to a million subscribers within a year. He attributes this explosive growth to his bold, attention-grabbing pranks, particularly those involving unsuspecting strangers.

Andrew Hills [05:01]: "12 and 13 were my heyday. I blew up to like a million subscribers within a year or so."

He discusses the adrenaline rush and confidence he felt during this period, mentioning how Adderall played a role in boosting his performance and creativity.

Andrew Hills [05:26]: "I made a little expose on myself about how I take Adderall, and that would give me some artificial confidence."

2. Substance Use and Mental Health

Transitioning from his early success, Andrew opens up about his struggles with substance use, particularly alcohol and Adderall. He acknowledges how these substances initially provided a semblance of confidence but ultimately led to anxiety and a sense of loss.

Andrew Hills [01:10]: "When your gut feels off, your whole day can feel off."

He also shares his experiences with ketamine therapy as a means to combat depression, highlighting its temporary benefits.

Andrew Hills [10:26]: "It helps with depression. Yeah. It's supposed to be a huge breakthrough."

3. The Downfall: Burnout and Loss of Focus

Andrew candidly discusses the decline of his YouTube channel around 2020, attributing it to personal burnout and excessive partying. He reflects on how losing focus and engaging in unhealthy behaviors led to a significant drop in his subscriber count and overall channel performance.

Andrew Hills [04:27]: "Yeah, that discipline. I was just partying a lot."

He recounts specific instances, such as meeting someone and drinking excessively for an extended period, which disrupted his content creation and personal life.

Andrew Hills [04:44]: "We were just kind of drinking every day for like a month or so."

4. Sobriety and Personal Transformation

A pivotal moment in the conversation revolves around Andrew's journey to sobriety. After numerous failed attempts to quit, he finally succeeds in staying sober for over 400 days. He emphasizes the importance of self-realization and the influence of transformative books like "Sober on a Drunk Planet."

Andrew Hills [13:58]: "Just kind of just a realization that you gotta get going and you gotta take care of yourself."

Carly, the co-host, shares her own experiences with sobriety, fostering a relatable dialogue about overcoming addiction and the societal pressures surrounding alcohol consumption.

5. Transition to Podcasting and Content Evolution

Shifting focus from YouTube to podcasting, Andrew introduces his "Chatting with" series, where he interviews individuals from various walks of life. Unlike his prank-centric YouTube days, this podcast aims for depth and authenticity, exploring topics like mental health, personal growth, and unique life stories.

Andrew Hills [23:00]: "If they don't pick up in the next month or two, I'll probably start vlogging again or something different."

He discusses the challenges of growing his podcast audience amidst a saturated market and contemplates diversifying his content strategy to regain traction.

6. Ethical Considerations and Content Responsibility

Andrew reflects on the ethical dilemmas of content creation, especially when considering a return to pranks. He acknowledges the potential harm and the evolving standards of platforms like YouTube, which now prioritize respectful and responsible content over sensationalism.

Andrew Hills [20:28]: "I wouldn't do anything like that now because I'd get canceled."

Carly and Andrew debate the fine line between engaging content and exploiting individuals for views, highlighting the moral responsibilities of creators in the digital age.

7. Fitness, Health Practices, and Lifestyle Choices

The conversation delves into personal health routines, with Andrew sharing his commitment to fitness, including running a half marathon and practicing cold plunging as a means to maintain physical and mental well-being.

Andrew Hills [12:34]: "I try to get it to 45 degrees. It’s hard."

They discuss the benefits of disciplined fitness practices and how they contribute to overall life balance and productivity.

8. Political Views and Social Commentary

Andrew and Carly touch upon their political views and the impact of politics on their content creation. Andrew describes his shift from a conservative upbringing to a more moderate stance influenced by his time in Los Angeles.

Andrew Hills [39:13]: "My dad's really conservative... I went left as I got older."

They explore how political discourse shapes audience engagement and the challenges of hosting politically diverse guests without alienating segments of their listener base.

9. Cryptocurrency and Financial Insights

The discussion includes insights into cryptocurrency investments, with Carly sharing her experiences of selling her crypto company and the volatility of the market. They analyze the future of cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Bitcoin, considering their potential as mainstream currencies despite institutional resistance.

Carly [31:22]: "Ethereum is going to be tough because banks hate it."

Andrew discusses the financial uncertainties of digital investments and the importance of strategic planning in navigating such volatile markets.

10. Future Aspirations and Content Direction

Looking ahead, Andrew expresses his aspirations to expand his podcasting efforts, targeting a diverse range of guests to enhance the show's reach and impact. He contemplates the possibility of selling his podcast to larger networks if it gains significant traction.

Andrew Hills [27:00]: "That's my goal, at least."

Carly complements these aspirations by sharing the competitive nature of the podcasting industry and the importance of innovation to stand out among myriad shows.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Hills [01:10]: "When your gut feels off, your whole day can feel off."

• Andrew Hills [05:01]: "12 and 13 were my heyday. I blew up to like a million subscribers within a year or so."

• Andrew Hills [13:58]: "Just kind of just a realization that you gotta get going and you gotta take care of yourself."

• Andrew Hills [20:28]: "I wouldn't do anything like that now because I'd get canceled."

• Carly [31:22]: "Ethereum is going to be tough because banks hate it."

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This episode offers an unfiltered look into Andrew Hills' tumultuous journey through internet fame, personal demons, and his ongoing quest for a more meaningful and responsible approach to content creation. Listeners are treated to honest reflections, practical insights, and inspiring anecdotes that shed light on the complexities of maintaining authenticity and mental well-being in the high-stakes world of digital media.

Transcript

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[Carly]

No, I get crippling anxiety, especially edibles.

[Andrew Hills]

You gotta take a tiny bit and then wait like two hours. Yeah, yeah.

[Carly]

And then sometimes when you don't feel it, you take more and that's when it gets sketch.

[Andrew Hills]

Right? Yeah.

[Carly]

All right, guys. Andrew Hills. We are in Nashville, Tennessee. This is where you film your show too, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yep. Nice.

[Carly]

And you interview all walks of life. What have been some recent episodes.

[Andrew Hills]

Let's see. What a day trailer. I like going blank right now.

[Carly]

No, I know you've done gambler.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Crohn's disease. Transgender.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's over or he's over. And you gotta be tricky with that word these days. No. Well, yeah, yeah. He's over in Leeds, England, or somewhere around there. Yeah.

[Carly]

Okay. Was there some common ground you found on that one?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah. I always just try to, you know, that's why I call it chatting with. I just try to keep it low key and. Yeah, like, you're like you're a guy in a bar asking basic questions, you know?

[Carly]

So do you try to stay neutral on those or do you feel yourself having some personal bias going into it and then kind of combating their argument?

[Andrew Hills]

Neutral, for sure. Okay. I'm not really. I thought about, like, you know, taking a hard stance on things and like, getting political per se, but I'm not quite ready yet.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Are you scared of just, I guess, cancel culture still?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, definitely.

[Carly]

I feel like it's not as. As bad as it used to be, though.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, there's definitely, like a pushback and so that's nice.

[Carly]

But yeah, like, I would have never. Because I remember I posted a Trump thing like four years ago and a ton of people hated it.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

But I'm more comfortable posting about Trump these days. It's a right.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Well, YouTube, I feel like, is definitely more pro Trump than most or other platforms, But I really.

[Carly]

YouTube is.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I don't know why I posted like left weaning stuff. Like in 2020, I posted something about Black Lives Matter or something. Yeah, I was pretty much for it and I got a lot of hate for that.

[Carly]

They got me on that one. I donated to that one.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, I didn't have money to donate, but ye.

[Carly]

Yeah, no, I fell for that one, though. I wouldn't support that.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, so you donated then? You change your mind?

[Carly]

Well, did you see all the stuff come out after about how, like, some of them were buying houses and stuff?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I heard about that.

[Carly]

Yeah. So I was like, wow, that's where my money went.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah. You got to be careful about pretty much all charities.

[Carly]

Yeah, so. So you said you didn't have money, though. I thought the YouTube was doing pretty well at that time.

[Andrew Hills]

No, well, 2020 was okay, but no, around 2020 is when my channel started to go downhill.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. And I started to struggle.

[Carly]

So was that due to a lack of, like. Did you feel burnt out?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, that discipline. I was just partying a lot.

[Carly]

You got caught up in the party scene?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Just unfocused. Yeah, well, not even that. I was just, you know, we were especially the. Like, I just met this girl and we were just kind of drinking every day for like a month or so.

[Carly]

Oh, wow. Yeah, because I remember your. I was watching you in the. Yeah. 18, 19, 20. And you were one of the fastest growing channels, I believe, around that time. Right?

[Andrew Hills]

2020. No, no, 2012. And 13 were my heyday. I. I blew up to like a million subscribers within a year or so.

[Carly]

Super fast. Yeah. Remember fast?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Like, I saw you at around 100k and then you were at a million.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah. That was the Prank days.

[Carly]

Oh, yeah. So you call it the Vitali days.

[Andrew Hills]

Yes. Yeah.

[Carly]

And you were walking up to girls on college campus and just doing weird stuff?

[Andrew Hills]

Not. Not just girls, but. Yeah, I did. I did do a lot of, like, little pickup videos.

[Carly]

Nice.

[Andrew Hills]

I was. I was 12 years younger, but so.

[Carly]

So did you have a lot of confidence back then?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I kind of. I made a little expose on myself about how I take Adderall, and that would give me kind of some artificial confidence.

[Carly]

Interesting. Adderall.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I. What? I. I titled it Film King of Awkward. A film about Adderall. And that just. I was just kind of exploring, like, what's ADD and, you know, Adderall in general and how that makes you feel unstoppable, you know?

[Carly]

Interesting. Are you still taking it?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I take, like, a low dose, extended version of it now.

[Carly]

Okay. Which is fascinating. So I was prescribed adhd. I don't know the difference with ADD and adhd. But it's similar, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I think so.

[Carly]

They tried putting me on that in, like, fourth grade.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Which is. I feel like it's a little too early.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, definitely. I think. I mean, yeah, it's over prescribed for sure.

[Carly]

I think so too.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

But it sounds like yours was pretty severe, so.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I don't know. I. I got on it, like, when I was 21. So what are you. Are you taking it now?

[Carly]

I'm not. I'm actually pretty against most western drugs, so that's probably where we differ.

[Andrew Hills]

All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You mentioned psilocybin.

[Carly]

I would rather take psilocybin in a microdose form than Adderall.

[Andrew Hills]

Is it legal or you get it illegally?

[Carly]

It's decriminalized, and it's growing. This episode is.

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[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I've been meaning to get that.

[Carly]

I'd be curious. Someone like you that's been on Adderall like, if you would feel it compared to Adderall.

[Andrew Hills]

And it's not scary because it's so low?

[Carly]

No. You won't hallucinate or anything?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Is that what scares you about psychedelics?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, for sure.

[Carly]

So you've never taken a psychedelic?

[Andrew Hills]

Wow. Well, unless you include ketamine as a psychedelic.

[Carly]

Ketamine. It might be. Were you seeing stuff on it?

[Andrew Hills]

No. Well, yeah, if you take enough of it.

[Carly]

Okay, so it might be one. I don't know. I haven't tried that one, man.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, well, no, it was in a doctor's. It was, like, legal, you know, in the infusions. Oh, that whole wave. Yeah.

[Carly]

So you did the ketamine therapy, right? It's guided, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Well, they don't know you're there. They just sit you in a chair and put it and, you know, hook you up and then you just kind of hallucinate a little bit for like an hour.

[Carly]

Oh, wow. Any big takeaways from that experience?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I mean, you kind of. You feel lighter for the next month or so.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. It's supposed to build, like, glutamate in your brain or something.

[Carly]

Interesting.

[Andrew Hills]

It helps with depression. Yeah. It's supposed to be a huge breakthrough and treating depression. So.

[Carly]

So were you dealing with some mental stuff at that time?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I've kind of always, you know, had low energy and, you know, whatever. All melancholy my whole life. Yeah.

[Carly]

Is that. Have you tested your testosterone levels? Because that could be related.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I've wondered about that, and I would love to get on trt, but I'm worried about getting infertile, and I got to pump out some kids first with Carly.

[Carly]

That's true.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

It's the game we play as men, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Are you on trt?

[Carly]

I'm not, but I raised my naturally.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay. Yeah.

[Carly]

So I was out of 520, which is decent. But you could take these herbal supplements to get you up. It gets harder as you age. So you're 34, you said.

[Andrew Hills]

In more ways than one.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Or. No, you're right. Yeah. It does decline as you age.

[Carly]

Right. So you're Starting to drop 1% a year, I believe, around that age.

[Andrew Hills]

Right, Right. No, I. The last time I checked, I. I don't even remember what it was. It was in the, like, low to mid range. Yeah.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

But, yeah, I. I'd love to.

[Carly]

I'll put you on. Yeah. Shout out to Gary Brecker, man.

[Andrew Hills]

Get some gear.

[Carly]

Yeah, dude, those blood tests. I used to be, like, scared of needles and stuff, so I Wouldn't take them. And then you think in your 20s, you're just invincible. But that rocked my world.

[Andrew Hills]

Huh?

[Carly]

I was very deficient in a lot of things.

[Andrew Hills]

Really?

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Vitamin D was messed up. Vitamin C. White blood cell count avert.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I definitely noticed when I take vitamin D, I feel a lot better.

[Carly]

Yeah, that's a big one, because that kind of controls everything.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, that and magnesium.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Yeah. We're getting older, man. We got to be supplementing.

[Andrew Hills]

No doubt.

[Carly]

And we're only in our 20s and 30s. Imagine when we get even.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. And we got all this plastic in our bloodstream, which I. I've heard is theorized that that's causing a lot of low T in men.

[Carly]

Yep. It's in our balls.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

100% of balls.

[Andrew Hills]

And the radiation from our cell phones.

[Carly]

Is another, which is in our pockets right now.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

We're just constantly attacking our bodies.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

I try not to get too lost in it, because there's some people that take a little extreme, you know?

[Andrew Hills]

Right. The house. Yeah. You can't. Yeah. You can't get too crazy about it.

[Carly]

Like, there's cold plunging, which is. I don't know.

[Andrew Hills]

I do that. I love that.

[Carly]

Oh, you do it.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carly]

What temperature?

[Andrew Hills]

I. I try to get it to 45.

[Carly]

Dude, that's cold.

[Andrew Hills]

It is. Yeah. It's hard.

[Carly]

How long are you in first?

[Andrew Hills]

The first minutes, like, agonize. Agonizing. But then. But then the next. Like, five minutes are fine. And then you get out and you feel great.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Well, there's some upstairs, so I might have to try it after this.

[Andrew Hills]

What do you mean?

[Carly]

I just went on the roof. There's two tubs up there, and they're already cold. Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, we should have did that before this.

[Carly]

That would have been cool.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

We would have been amped up.

[Andrew Hills]

That honestly, works better for me than taking a monster.

[Carly]

Really?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. It really, like, triggers, like, a bunch of chemicals and.

[Carly]

Wow.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

You never done it.

[Carly]

I've done a cold shower, but that's probably nothing close.

[Andrew Hills]

I don't like showers because it's, like, constantly cold in one area, you know, but then the plunge, you can. And it's more relaxing and all at once.

[Carly]

That makes sense.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So sober for over 300 days now.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Over 400 days.

[Carly]

400 days.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Wow.

[Andrew Hills]

Feel great about that.

[Carly]

Is that the longest you've gone since you're.

[Andrew Hills]

Since I was 19, yeah. Wow.

[Carly]

So congrats, man. That's big.

[Andrew Hills]

Thanks.

[Carly]

Did you have to go to, like, a rehab Spot for that?

[Andrew Hills]

No, it's just, you know, after trial and error, it's probably like the thousandth, thousandth time that I try to go sober. And damn, you know, you mess up and mess up and mess up. And then finally stuck.

[Carly]

So what. What do you think about this time that made it click? Is there a specific reason you think?

[Andrew Hills]

Not really. Just kind of just a realization that you gotta get going and you gotta take care of yourself. And I did read some books that helped change my mind about it and helped me, like, change my paradigm of alcohol. I think it's called Sober on a Drunk Planet. I forgot the author, but that was really good.

[Carly]

Sober on a Drunk Planet. What a name for a book.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, well, it's true. It's like the hardest. It's because it's everywhere, you know, and everyone. You know, it's the one drug that you have to explain to people why you don't drink, you know?

[Carly]

Really?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, you know, because it's. Everyone pressures you to drink, you know, don't you feel like that's.

[Carly]

Yeah, I'm sober right now, but there's definitely. Wherever you go, like alcohol is there.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So it's everywhere for sure.

[Andrew Hills]

How long you sober before?

[Carly]

Well, I say sober, but, like, I'll have a drink, but I won't get drunk. So I haven't been drunk in six years.

[Andrew Hills]

Nice.

[Carly]

And I used to get drunk like four or five times a week in college.

[Andrew Hills]

See? Yeah, I. I mean, I. I never understood the point of just having one drink.

[Carly]

You know, I do it to socialize. It loosens me up a little bit. But. Yeah, I'm not a fan of just drinking in general, to be honest.

[Andrew Hills]

Well, that's good.

[Carly]

I feel like the reward to risk ratio isn't really there.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

You know, you're damaging your body and trying to fit in with people. That.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. And. Well, one monkey that is on my back, though is Kratom. You heard of that?

[Carly]

I have. What does that do?

[Andrew Hills]

It just makes you feel good.

[Carly]

Is it. Is it like an upper.

[Andrew Hills]

It's. It's. Supposedly, it's technically a stimulant, but it. Yeah, it's this green powder. You. You swish it in a tea and you drink it. And it's kind of like a. A natural opioid in a way.

[Carly]

Okay, so you're taking that.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I've been taking that the last, like, year. And that. That helped a lot. Weaning off alcohol. Because when I. When I'll get an urge to drink, I'll just get that yeah, I've seen.

[Carly]

It sold at, like, gas stations, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah. It's sketchy. You can get it at smoke shops or online and, like, the legality of it is a little gray. And it's. It's banned in some states.

[Carly]

It's like CBD then.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah, It's. There's a lot of similarities to weed, but it doesn't feel like weed.

[Carly]

But it's.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

[Carly]

Have you tried this nicotine wave out? These zins are everywhere, man.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, it kind of goes like cigarettes and then you taper to vaping and then vaping the zins and then Zins, and right now I'm on zins.

[Carly]

How was that? I haven't tried it.

[Andrew Hills]

They're. They're fine. They keep the demons at bay.

[Carly]

You know, I actually heard nicotine isn't, like, as bad as you think for you.

[Andrew Hills]

Really?

[Carly]

Yeah. So the part of the cigarette that's. That's not good is the stuff they add. It's not the nicotine. That's what I've heard, at least.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I know zins are. They're probably better than vaping, at least for your lungs.

[Carly]

Oh, sure.

[Andrew Hills]

So. Yeah. Do you have a nicotine addiction?

[Carly]

No. My dad used to chew those yellow nicotine squares, and I thought they were disgusting growing up, but no, the vape pens, man, I used to smoke those in college, and that was messing me up. Yeah, there's a lot of things.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Gen Z vapings took hold of Gen Z, you know?

[Carly]

It's bad.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, it's real bad. I have a lot of, you know, zoomer friends, and they're always vaping.

[Carly]

Yeah. So do you like weed or cigarettes more? Tobacco more?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, weed, yeah, for sure. But I. Weed is like. I don't know. I. I have to be in the mood for it. I. I don't have a problem with weed. Yeah.

[Carly]

I get anxiety off it.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I. It's like a once a month type thing, you know?

[Carly]

No, I get crippling anxiety, especially edibles.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh. Yeah.

[Carly]

I feel like I'm dying.

[Andrew Hills]

No, edibles. You got to be. You got to take a tiny bit and then wait, like, two hours.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

And then sometimes when you don't feel it, you take more, and that's when it gets sketchy.

[Andrew Hills]

Right? Yeah. And it's. It sucks if you take too much and you're just violently high.

[Carly]

Yeah. Oh, man.

[Andrew Hills]

There's nothing worse than that.

[Carly]

Do you see pranks ever making a comeback? You see yourself ever doing that type of content again?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I've thought about it, you know, just for the views to, you know, bring in some cash, but it's. I don't know, I. It's. Part of me feels like the wave is over, and it's like. I just. It's not really. I feel like it's almost impossible to make good content that way, but the other part of me is like, nah, that's just in my head.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

So I don't know.

[Carly]

I love the honesty. Well, I guess you won't truly know until you. You try it. And now live streaming is pretty hot, and people are doing some weird pranks on those.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah. And then I, like, you know, I'll get all philosophical. I'm like, oh, is this wrong? Like, and I'll get in my head so much like, oh, I shouldn't be filming people, you know, And I. And I just don't want to. I'm just. At the end of the day, I just feel like I'm a little too mature to be filming strangers and, like, exploiting them. But then I. Then I kind of wake up the next day and I'm like, oh, maybe I'm just. That's. They don't care, you know?

[Carly]

So you got that moral dilemma. It's interesting you say that because Jidion, I'm not sure if you followed what happened with him, but one of the biggest pranksters of recent era. Have you seen his stuff?

[Andrew Hills]

I'm not sure. I don't think so.

[Carly]

Okay. He was a big live streamer, but became one of the biggest pranksters and then went through this whole moral dilemma where he quit pranking overnight, became super religious.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Started reading the Bible on stream and stuff. But that only. No, it's crazy. You should look it up. But then that only lasted a certain amount of time, and now he's back to pranking.

[Andrew Hills]

Interesting.

[Carly]

But doing it more in a ethical way, I guess, because before some of his pranks would get people fired.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh.

[Carly]

Like, he would fake being an employee.

[Andrew Hills]

I would feel really bad about that.

[Carly]

Yeah. And then, like, he'd fake being employed at Target, and then some guys got fired or something.

[Andrew Hills]

Interesting. Yeah, you definitely. I mean, some of them, you kind of have to be a sociopath, you know, and just not have feelings for other people when you're doing it.

[Carly]

That's true.

[Andrew Hills]

There. Yeah. There is, like, some. There are some certain prank ideas where it's. It's pretty much harmless.

[Carly]

So any pranks you regret that you.

[Andrew Hills]

Still think about probably yeah, any. Any like the trying to kiss girls where I would just, like, awkwardly in the library. I would, like, kind of walk and then, you know, you make eye contact and you're. And then you slowly lean towards them, and then they. What are you doing? And so that's. I wouldn't. I would never do anything like that.

[Carly]

Now, because I'd get you canceled now.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

I'd get you a charge probably these days.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carly]

I'm surprised no one called the cops on you back then.

[Andrew Hills]

I know. I don't know.

[Carly]

You're one of those pranksters that's never been arrested. I feel like all those guys got arrested back in the day.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I did get kicked off BYU after, like, the 10th or 20th prank. Then, like, UVU a little bit.

[Carly]

But BYU must have been interesting, all the Mormons there. And you grew up Mormon, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carly]

So you were probably used to that. But that. That always interests me, the Mormon culture.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah. You know any Mormon friends?

[Carly]

I do. I'm actually really close friends with a few of them.

[Andrew Hills]

Cool. Yeah, I. I haven't really been active since I was. Since I moved out, so.

[Carly]

Really? So you kind of left it.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

It is interesting to see some of them get really wrapped up in that lifestyle.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Like, about half my friends and family are Mormon, so I don't. I try not to. You know, you hate the. The belief, not the believer, you know, so.

[Carly]

Right. Because they think they're doing the right thing.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

So it's not them.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Everyone that kind of has their own little religions, you know, like. No, FAP is kind of something I'm. I'm into, but.

[Carly]

Really?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, a lot of people kind of think is a little loony, you know.

[Carly]

I like no porn. I'm a believer in that.

[Andrew Hills]

All right. Yeah. That's good.

[Carly]

No, FAP's like, the next level, though. So how long you been practicing that? Or do you go through periods where you're doing it?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, no, I usually. I. I don't go more than a couple weeks, so I know I'm definitely not. I just know that. Like it. So, like, in preparation for a video or something important. I. I won't. I'll abstain from.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

Porn. Masturbation for leading up to it for at least, like, five days. Oh, that'll give me, like, an extra aura. But that's. It could be all in my head.

[Carly]

Could be. Yeah. Some fighters practice it, though, so there's something there. Like boxers. No, I like that, though.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Mohammed Ali, I think you Know.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

You wouldn't have sex and all that before a fight, and Mike Tyson, I think, is quoted saying something like that. So.

[Carly]

Yeah, there's something there. I've seen one video where it's like, no fap for a year. I'm like, all right, that's a little. That's a little extreme, you know?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I mean, it's. It's hard to tell because it's like sometimes you. You. You release and you feel like, a lot better because then you got that clarity, you know, and.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

So it's.

[Carly]

I don't know, sometimes you release. You feel like, though.

[Andrew Hills]

Right. So it's like. I don't know.

[Carly]

Yeah. I wonder if someone could solve that problem. What's causing that, you know?

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Because that's the worst. Like, when you feel like after.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. You kind of just. Yeah, you're definitely less motivated.

[Carly]

Yeah. You got any guests booked for the Chatting with series that you're interested or excited about coming up?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, right now I got, like, guy with Tourette's I'm gonna talk to soon. It's another guy. I got a bunch. Yeah. A guy with bipolar one should be good. This girl that's like a dating coach for the last 10 years.

[Carly]

Interesting.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. You know, we're chugging along.

[Carly]

What's your kind of goal with this? Like, are you just genuinely interested in these lifestyles?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I mean, the. The interviews are. They're easy, and, you know, podcasts are really hot right now.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

But, yeah, I mean, if they don't really pick up right now, it's not really doing that well. Like, 10, 20k views each, you know, and if they don't pick up in, like, the next month or just two or whatever, I'll probably start vlogging again or something.

[Carly]

Oh, God.

[Andrew Hills]

Or something different. Yeah.

[Carly]

Your angle interests me because you could have had on all your friends, all your celebrities, and.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Did the normal route, but you and Tosh point o in a different route. I forget his name. But where you just interview, like, ordinary people.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah. Theo Vaughn.

[Carly]

No, Tosh point o.

[Andrew Hills]

Right. But the ovon also has, like, ordinary people, too.

[Carly]

Well, he has on celebrities, too.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carly]

But, yeah, he's. He's had on some ordinary people.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. In my opinion, like, celebrities are. You know, I. When I first did the chatting was. I had, like, a bunch of big YouTubers and friends, and I. I don't know, really. I don't know what to ask them. It's like, I don't know. It's harder to keep my Attention. Because I. I don't know. I don't really. It's like I kind of feel like I have them figured out, you know.

[Carly]

Plus, they're at a higher risk of getting canceled, so they won't be as honest, from my experience at least, because I've had on some. Some notable people, and it doesn't feel as authentic with them generally.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, it's a little more sterile.

[Carly]

Yeah, that's the game you got to play.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Yeah. Because when you go to a list, I mean, they're giving robotic answers.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

It sucks.

[Andrew Hills]

You know who's the biggest guest you.

[Carly]

Had in terms of fame?

[Andrew Hills]

Sure.

[Carly]

Because I've had on people you've never heard of that get millions of views. But in terms of fame, I'd say Howie Mandel. He's probably the number one guy.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. His son. I know. It was a big YouTuber.

[Carly]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

For a little bit. I don't know what he's doing now, but yeah, I. What's funny is you heard of Tim Ferriss?

[Carly]

Yeah, you met him, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I interviewed him. Like, really three, four years before I ever started doing the interviews.

[Carly]

Whoa. That must have been a really.

[Andrew Hills]

I thought about, like, bringing it up and just reposting it as a. Chatting with.

[Carly]

You should.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, it's only. It's only audio, though, so.

[Carly]

Oh, what?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, and I just did it with my phone in. On the side of the street in San Francisco.

[Carly]

Oh, you ran into him?

[Andrew Hills]

No, we. We. We just. We met up to do a video and we did like, hugging people in the park or something. And then I just. As a bonus, I just interviewed him for like 20 minutes, I think.

[Carly]

Wow.

[Andrew Hills]

With my phone.

[Carly]

Dude, that's a legend right there.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. And it's. It's just ironic because he's like the biggest. Has probably the most prestigious guest I've ever. Or person I've ever met.

[Carly]

And so he's up there, man. He's probably top five or top ten show of all time, I'd say.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

I used to watch all his episodes, but.

[Andrew Hills]

No, I love.

[Carly]

Yeah, his book's great. Some of his episodes are too smart for me. Yeah, I can't even understand it.

[Andrew Hills]

He gets. He gets very analytical.

[Carly]

Yeah, for sure. What shows are you watching and studying right now?

[Andrew Hills]

Not much. Lately I've been kind of just watching. Just been listening to Theo Vaughn's podcast a lot. Smartless. What else? I'll listen to Books on Tape while I play video games. Yeah, They'll Kill Tony is a big one.

[Carly]

I just started that one yeah, Yeah, I listened to Theo. I just saw his with Trump. Yeah, I was interesting.

[Andrew Hills]

That blew up. That got like 10 million views in a few days.

[Carly]

I'm telling you, man, I'm excited about future podcasts. Did you know this year alone there's been six acquisitions, over $80 million in the podcast space?

[Andrew Hills]

That's insane. Yeah, man.

[Carly]

I think Theo is probably going to be next and I think, like, Spotify.

[Andrew Hills]

Picks them up or something.

[Carly]

Spotify series xm. There's one other company, Smart List. The show you watch got acquired for 100 million.

[Andrew Hills]

Damn.

[Carly]

This year.

[Andrew Hills]

So, like, syndication rights or.

[Carly]

Yeah. I think the way it works from what I've seen, because Rogan sold this year for 250, is they take all the money from the sponsors and they use that to recoup their money that they pay you.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

So they're seeing it as like an investment that they'll make back over time.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Because these shows are making a ton of sponsors. I don't know their exact numbers, but, yeah, I'd assume millions every year. They're making back crazy. So they could put up 50 million for Theo Bond show and make that back in however long.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So that's my goal, at least.

[Andrew Hills]

It's. It's super competitive.

[Carly]

Very.

[Andrew Hills]

Feels like everyone has a podcast now.

[Carly]

Everyone does, but the 1% are just way ahead of everyone. It's. It's really hard to catch up to the top shows.

[Andrew Hills]

Yes.

[Carly]

Like, super hard.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Like, there's so many podcasts, but not a lot of them get views.

[Andrew Hills]

Right. It's. Yeah. Super hard.

[Carly]

Is that a goal for you, to sell your show one day?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Obviously that'd be great. But I don't know. I've always kind of just done my own thing and, like, doing my own thing. But, yeah, I gotta. I gotta sit down and write and, you know, focus more. Do you meditate?

[Carly]

I. Depends.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Not the traditional sense of sitting there and I'm in enchanting. But forums.

[Andrew Hills]

It sounds like you, you know, you made a big paycheck with the crypto.

[Carly]

Made a lot in crypto. And then I sold my crypto company.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

So I'm in a weird spot where I could have retired at 25.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

But it was depressing. Like, this is getting to sound weird, but I had so much money and, like, didn't know what to do.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, no, I've. I've been in that position. Not too much money, but where you're totally comfortable and don't have to do it. You have no Obligations every day and you're just watching movies and.

[Carly]

No, literally, I would sleep like 10, 11 hours, wake up like, kind of like a zombie.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Were you smoking weed or anything?

[Carly]

Yeah, I think I was hitting pens at the time, but, dude, it was weird.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Like, money won't fix everything.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, that's a big point. Tim Ferriss makes in four hour work week that retirement's a myth. You gotta. You gotta always be doing something.

[Carly]

Well, now they're doing studies on retirement, brain scans and dude, people are dropping way earlier.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Like, when you retire, you're like.

[Andrew Hills]

You're like. They get sad.

[Carly]

Yeah, they get sad and they pass away younger than people that keep working and have purpose.

[Andrew Hills]

Nice.

[Carly]

Yeah, I don't think I'll ever stop as long as I genuinely enjoy what I'm doing, which right now I do.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Podcasting is fun.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Meet some cool people, learn a lot, man. And there's not many other professions where I'm as passionate about podcasting, I'd say.

[Andrew Hills]

And you're getting sponsors now, right?

[Carly]

Yeah, just got DraftKings, shout out to DraftKings, Babel LinkedIn.

[Andrew Hills]

Nice.

[Carly]

Took a while though, man. Took a while to get sponsors. Was it like that for you?

[Andrew Hills]

I don't know. It depends. Sometimes I'll. I'll get like. I'll get like three in a row and then I won't get any for a year.

[Carly]

That happened to me. So, yeah, there was few months this year where I wasn't getting any. I actually lost money some months. Yeah, I lost money the first six months and then I thought I'd be set the rest of the way, but it was one or two months this month where I was taking some fat Ls, dude. Fat Ls, like 30K Ls?

[Andrew Hills]

Well, yeah, that's showbiz. What, you're not messing with crypto at all now?

[Carly]

I still have a ton, but I'm down pretty bad right now.

[Andrew Hills]

But I like it like the market is down.

[Carly]

You mean market's down. Yeah. As we're filming this, Ethereum's at like almost 2000 and Bitcoin's at 50, so that's considered down from the peak.

[Andrew Hills]

You got most of it in bitcoin.

[Carly]

Ethereum.

[Andrew Hills]

Ethereum. Why Ethereum?

[Carly]

I had a lot of bitcoin. I sold it to buy a house just now. But I like both. No really preference, you know, but I feel like with ethereum you can still. 3 to 5x. Bitcoin's kind of high.

[Andrew Hills]

You think people are going to be using that instead of money in the.

[Carly]

Future, they already are. I mean, I have so many crypto nerd friends that buy watches, houses, anything you can think of with crypto, I.

[Andrew Hills]

Guess, besides the super rich, I mean.

[Carly]

Oh. Just casually.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

It's going to be tough. The reason is because banks hate it. So, like, my Chase account got banned just because I was in the crypto space. And credit card companies hate it because. Let's say you buy $1,000 of Bitcoin and it goes down 20%, you're going to file a chargeback on that credit card.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

And it's going to put the credit card company out of business. So they hate crypto.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. It's so volatile.

[Carly]

Yeah. So I don't think I'll ever be casual because of that.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Like a casual currency.

[Carly]

No, that's why the dollar is casual. Like, you know.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Even though that's a whole nother podcast with the value of the dollar going down.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Sorry, I don't mean to. I'll let you ask questions.

[Carly]

No, you're good. When I go on other shows, I ask the host questions, too. It's like a natural thing.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Do you. Do you like being the host more or the guest?

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, host. Probably same. Yeah. I like having control, you know, 100.

[Carly]

Yeah, I turned down most shows, to be honest.

[Andrew Hills]

Really?

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow. Well, I mean, yes. I mean, I. It's not. I don't get asked that much, so it's like, I'll say yes now because it's like once a year, you know?

[Carly]

Okay. Oh, that's it?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Well, yeah, once or twice a year. Damn.

[Carly]

I got asked a lot, but it's usually smaller shows and it's the same question, so it's like, you know, am I gonna tell my.

[Andrew Hills]

I'm impressed. Yeah. You haven't been asking, like, the usual questions.

[Carly]

That's what I try to do with the show because you got to stand out, you know?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

I mean, I hate when they're like, describe your. Your life story. Like, like, come on now you.

[Andrew Hills]

So how'd you get started?

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

[Carly]

So basic. Are you still preparing for. For a half marathon? Saw you made a video about that.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah, that's in late October. I've been running a lot, but I eat, like, so. Yeah. So I still have a dad bod. Damn.

[Carly]

But here, everything's fried, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, there's a lot of fried stuff here. Barbecue stuff. But I've been. Yeah, I've been running, like, usually like two or three miles every day, sometimes more oh, wow.

[Carly]

Well, a half marathon is 13.1, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I gotta start ramping it up.

[Carly]

Okay. So if you can run the whole way without walking, that'll be a win for you.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I feel like I could, but it would make me sore for the next week.

[Carly]

Yeah. Marathon's on my goal, my bucket list. Goal.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. You done any races?

[Carly]

I used to be a runner.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh.

[Carly]

Yeah?

[Andrew Hills]

Damn.

[Carly]

I was a speedster, dude.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Like, what was your main race?

[Carly]

Mile and 800.

[Andrew Hills]

What's your mile time?

[Carly]

4 or 40.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Yeah, I was pretty good.

[Andrew Hills]

That's a.

[Carly]

And I was eating like, back then, so if I took it serious these days, I could probably run a 420.

[Andrew Hills]

Do you still run every day?

[Carly]

No, man, I do basketball now.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Running is a very mentally exhausting sport.

[Andrew Hills]

Ah.

[Carly]

You know?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Because I do feel after running, I. I'm like, I'm expecting that I'll get all this work done because it's like I've got all these endorphins now, but.

[Carly]

Yeah, it's the opposite, Right?

[Andrew Hills]

A little bit. Yeah. Like, my. My willpower, though, is down, so it's tough, man.

[Carly]

Plus, it's. So when you get to a high level, you're spending so much time. Because to run 13 miles would probably take you three hours.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

So, yeah, you got to dedicate that daily. It gets pretty time intensive.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. 454. That was like, in high school.

[Carly]

440. Yeah, in high school. And then my half mile was 159. That was my main event.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

So, yeah, I could have went D1 for running if I wanted to.

[Andrew Hills]

Man. That's agonizing. That last stretch, it's like your whole body's on fire.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

I did a little bit of track in high school, but it was mostly just long jump and 100 meter.

[Carly]

Oh, yeah. What was your hundred?

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, I don't even remember. It was like. I don't. I had no idea. 11 seconds.

[Carly]

You were a sprinter, so you were muscular.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, but it was only like in sophomore. In high school or something.

[Carly]

Oh, okay. I had on the fastest 100 meter runner in the world.

[Andrew Hills]

What?

[Carly]

Yeah. Or not the world. The U.S. my bad.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Usain Bolt's the best.

[Andrew Hills]

You were the fastest 100 meter high schooler in.

[Carly]

In the world. Like he was an Olympian. Gold medal.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Yeah. Justin Gatlin was his name.

[Andrew Hills]

Damn.

[Carly]

That was a fun episode.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Yeah. Ten seconds, man. Or nine. Seven was his hundred ninety seven, which is crazy.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. Yeah. They're all in the Nine range now, these days. Yeah, yeah.

[Carly]

If you're not under 10 these days.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Man, being an athlete, especially these days with social media just ridiculing you off a poor performance, you got to be really tough to be an athlete. I feel like.

[Andrew Hills]

Did he talk about steroids?

[Carly]

No, I didn't ask him that because it was touchy.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

He got banned for a few years.

[Andrew Hills]

Oh, he did?

[Carly]

Yeah. So I didn't want to.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Certain. Guess if you push the wrong buttons, you know, I haven't had anyone walk off yet, but yeah, apparently every host has to deal with that.

[Andrew Hills]

Do you send the episodes for approval to people after? That's what I do for chattings because I don't want to step on anyone.

[Carly]

Some people ask, but I don't go out of my way and send it to them. No.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Has anyone asked for them to been taken down after the fact?

[Carly]

So I know that's happened to you. It hasn't happened to me yet.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Because I'm not really trying to get gotcha moments.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Like certain hosts are like, oh, let's talk about your ex girlfriend or something. I don't find purpose in that.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of British journalists are that way.

[Carly]

Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

[Andrew Hills]

Are you. Are you on all the. Yeah, like the guy with Robert Downey Jr. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's such an. What are you. You're on all the platforms now.

[Carly]

Just got banned on TikTok. But yeah, I did an interview with Tulsi Gabbard.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

She's like a politician on the right wing. Space. Wow. Just joined Trump's team and that one.

[Andrew Hills]

Got me banned because it was right wing.

[Carly]

Yeah. Well, they tell you which clip got flagged and it was about talking about the deep state, so.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay. Yeah. Conspiracies.

[Carly]

Conspiracies. Yeah. Careful with those.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Moon landing, Earth is flat. You believe in any conspiracies?

[Andrew Hills]

Not really. I think level headed. Yeah. I think basic stuff like big, Big Pharma is, you know, pushing doctors to. I don't know. Yeah, Yeah.

[Carly]

I don't want to get you canceled here.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So some of them are. Are interesting. I'll say that.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. No, I had a flat Earther. It's one of my best episodes. Chatting with.

[Carly]

Yeah, same with me. That's one of my most viewed clips.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. People go crazy about that stuff.

[Carly]

They go nuts.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

But I don't know.

[Andrew Hills]

I can't believe that they. This person believes that.

[Carly]

Right.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

And that's the game. I Have to play, like, I have to promote crazy stuff like that to get views. So that's the moral dilemma I have with it.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Because if I don't do that, I won't get as many views.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

I'm sure you deal with that too. Right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yep, Yep. It's. There's a. There's a balance.

[Carly]

Yeah. And that kind of limits my guest pool, because certain guests get offended by certain guests I've had on, so they won't come on.

[Andrew Hills]

Interesting. Yeah, man.

[Carly]

So it kind of sucks.

[Andrew Hills]

Our. What was I gonna say? You had any guests on that you, like, your. Your manager had on, and you were like, why is he. And that you didn't want to have on.

[Carly]

Oh, that I didn't want to have.

[Andrew Hills]

On that, like, you. That your manager got without, like.

[Carly]

Yeah. There's been a couple on the spot where I've been like, oh, this is gonna be weird. But I think you can learn something from pretty much everyone, you know? Like, I'm about to have Tate on.

[Andrew Hills]

And that's gonna be big.

[Carly]

It's gonna be big. But that will limit certain future guests. So I have to play that game. Like, okay, people won't come on because I've had them on.

[Andrew Hills]

Right. So, yeah.

[Carly]

It's whatever, though.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

There's enough people in the world to have on.

[Andrew Hills]

Would you say you're more right wing?

[Carly]

Yeah, these days, but I grew up super left Democrat in New Jersey, and you were in Cali, so I'm assuming you grew up pretty left, too, Right?

[Andrew Hills]

No, my. You know, my dad's really conservative.

[Carly]

Oh, really?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I grew up pretty right up until. Yeah. And then I. Then I went left as I got older. Yeah.

[Carly]

I've never heard of right going to left.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I mean, LA kind of just rubbed off on me, I guess. I lived there for six years.

[Carly]

Okay. So you're still left right now, though.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Wow.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So you're gonna vote for Kamala?

[Andrew Hills]

I mean.

[Carly]

Yes.

[Andrew Hills]

I don't. I don't usually vote.

[Carly]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Because it's like. I don't know. I wish there was. They made it. I wish you didn't have to mail it in or go somewhere, you know.

[Carly]

It is a tedious process.

[Andrew Hills]

I don't know.

[Carly]

Yeah, I don't.

[Andrew Hills]

I know. I should vote. Yeah.

[Carly]

I haven't ever voted.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

But since I'm in a swing state now, I might. I'm in Nevada, so.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

Jersey used to always be left, so I didn't see a point.

[Andrew Hills]

I thought Nevada was, like, totally right now.

[Carly]

It was left in 2020, voted for Biden.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Yeah. Nashville's right though, right?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So you're like an outlier out here.

[Andrew Hills]

A little bit. Yeah.

[Carly]

So you probably don't even touch on it out here.

[Andrew Hills]

No. But yeah, I thought about getting political with like my street interviews, like people on abortion, etc, you know.

[Carly]

I think you should. The reason being is it's hot right now. It's getting a ton of views and it's important.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

I think we should be having these conversations.

[Andrew Hills]

Okay.

[Carly]

You know.

[Andrew Hills]

Well, yeah, I'll. I'll take that into consideration.

[Carly]

Yeah. I mean, look at all the top shows right now. They're touching on politics or they're super political.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Patrick Bet, David. Tucker Carlson. Candace Owens.

[Andrew Hills]

Right.

[Carly]

Candace is out here.

[Andrew Hills]

I heard my channel's like at such a low point. It's like I don't really have much to lose anyway.

[Carly]

Yeah. So that's how I feel. If you're not constantly doing something new. Like my. Everyone's views are down right now.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, well, especially on YouTube. Yeah.

[Carly]

Yeah. I'm down 70% on Instagram.

[Andrew Hills]

Huh.

[Carly]

I used to get 40 million accounts reached a month.

[Andrew Hills]

Wow.

[Carly]

Yeah. And then I had Sneako on Yeah.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, the right wing streamer.

[Carly]

Yeah, yeah. And I've been screwed since.

[Andrew Hills]

So wait, he's right wing?

[Carly]

I don't know what he is, but he's just a little of extreme. He's been banned everywhere.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, yeah, we just have glasses on.

[Carly]

He might, he didn't on the podcast.

[Andrew Hills]

I might be thinking of something. Someone else.

[Carly]

Yeah, I don't know if that's okay.

[Andrew Hills]

I don't know.

[Carly]

Would you have on just about anyone on your, your show though? Like, if they were super right wing, would you be willing to talk to them?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, of course.

[Carly]

Like Alex Jones.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Okay, so you're down to have a dialogue.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, I'm very open minded and I, you know, I'm not. I wouldn't say I'm like really left, but I just in general, just a casual Democrat. Yeah.

[Carly]

Interesting.

[Andrew Hills]

I just feel like Jon Stewart, you know, Bill Maher. Yeah, Bill Maher. All these guys are. They just seem way smarter.

[Carly]

Smarter than who? Are you comparing them to?

[Andrew Hills]

Joe Rogan? Bill O'Reilly? The. What was the guy. What's the other guy's name?

[Carly]

Tucker.

[Andrew Hills]

Tucker, yes. Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson. Yes. I don't know, they. Yeah, they just seem cooler, you know.

[Carly]

Well, Tucker is right wing.

[Andrew Hills]

Like I'm definitely not an intellectual and it's above my pay grade, but I just would rather hang out with them. Than. Than Tucker or Bill, you know.

[Carly]

Really?

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Oh, wow. What an inch. No, I'm so fascinated because on my podcast it's the opposite.

[Andrew Hills]

Interesting.

[Carly]

I've had on mainly right wing guys. I try to have on people on the left, but they don't seem as open to. Come on, dude.

[Andrew Hills]

Huh.

[Carly]

Do you find that too?

[Andrew Hills]

I. I mean, this is honestly, like, the first time ever that I've really talked about politics.

[Carly]

Okay.

[Andrew Hills]

The longest I've ever talked. Yeah, the most.

[Carly]

Wow. Yeah, I've had Marianne Williamson on the show, but that's about it.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, she's. She's. She's kind of like a female Bernie.

[Carly]

I actually liked her a lot. I was surprised.

[Andrew Hills]

Cool.

[Carly]

Yeah. Other than the vaccine stuff, I agreed on a lot with her. I don't want to mention that word. Get the podcast. Deleted.

[Andrew Hills]

All right.

[Carly]

But, dude, it's been fun. I mean, I'm gonna keep up with you. I hope you can revive this thing.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah, man.

[Carly]

The fact that you've been around this long, though, is impressive. There's not many of you guys still.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Making videos for 10 plus years.

[Andrew Hills]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like if you get burned out, just take a break and then come back to it.

[Carly]

Absolutely. We'll link your stuff below. Thanks for coming on.

[Andrew Hills]

Of course, man.

[Carly]

Thanks watching guys, as always. See you next time.