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“I Should Be Dead or in Prison”: Tito Ortiz on the Choices That Saved His Life | DSH #1632
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Interviewer / Host
Did you ever expect the UFC to be this as big as it is right now?
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Tito Ortiz
100%. But I didn't think this quick. I think the reason why it was this quick, just because people love to watch two men compete. I mean, it's kind of like modern day gladiators right now. And this is what people loved back in the Roman days. You know, gladiators could beat each other, but it was to the death. It's different. This is competition.
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Interviewer / Host
I mean, you put your life on the line, man.
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Tito Ortiz
Every one of the fights with all the surgeries, you know, all the surgeries I've been through, I have eight surgeries. I'm thankful injury are pain free now. Thankful that I'm retired. I've been retired for three years now. I don't miss it, but I want to be healthy. I want to stay healthy, I want to stay young. You know, I'm 50 years old this year and I just want to make sure that I have a long life to watch my children grow up.
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Interviewer / Host
Absolutely. All right, guys, we got Tito Ortiz in back in Vegas where he made his name for himself, right?
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Tito Ortiz
To a certain extent, yeah. I think it was more worldwide than anything, but yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely worldwide.
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Interviewer / Host
But now UFC is just so prevalent in Vegas, I feel like.
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Tito Ortiz
Right, yeah, it's fight capital of the world, man. This is it right here in Las Vegas. Yeah, it was the first main event here at the Mendeley Bay UFC 33, defending my world title for the second time or third time here in Las Vegas. And it just took off from there, man. And then when they did the ultimate fighter, I did two season the Ultimate Fighter, season three and season 11. Once again, it took off. It just, it grew the fan base so huge because the fans understood what mixed martial arts really was. In the beginning. They would boo and guys get taken down or guys go for submissions. They didn't understand what it was. And Lonzo and Dana, I told him, if you guys are able to educate the fans on what the sport's truly about put into it, they're going to love it more. Then all of a sudden, after 2006, I believe it just blew up. It got huge after the Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin fight. I mean, that was probably one of the most viewed fight at that time in UFC on Spike television. But it just, it grew so fast and I'm just thankful that I had an opportunity to do what I did. You know, I was the middleweight world champion at the time. When Lorenzo bought the company, Dana White became my manager. And then Dana White all of a sudden became the president of the ufc. And he says, I can't be your manager anymore. I was like, okay. Well, he passed me down to one of his friends who was an attorney who became my manager and I continued on. Then I won the light heavyweight world title. So I'm actually the first two time division champion.
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Interviewer / Host
Let's go.
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Tito Ortiz
In UFC, I see Conor McGregor saying that he's the first time two time champion. No, I was the first one. But it's all right. I'd say I gave him credit for what he's done for his brand. You know, I'm nothing but proud for that guy, man. I have nothing but love for him.
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Interviewer / Host
He changed the sport too, 100%.
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Tito Ortiz
100%. He has an opportunity because he has social media. I never had a social media presence. There was never that during my fight career.
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Interviewer / Host
But it wasn't even around back then.
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Tito Ortiz
No, not around. Not even until like, gosh, 2012. That's when it started really getting big. And then it just got bigger and bigger to the monster it is right now.
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Interviewer / Host
Did you ever expect the UFC to be this as big as it is right now?
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Tito Ortiz
100%. But I didn't think this quick. I think the reason why it was this quick, just because people love to watch two men compete. I mean, it's kind of like the modern day Gladiators right now.
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Interviewer / Host
Right.
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Tito Ortiz
And this is what people loved back in the Roman days. You know, Gladiators competing each other. Yeah, but it was to the death. It's different, this competition.
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Interviewer / Host
I mean, you put your life on the line, man.
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Tito Ortiz
Every one of the fights with all the surgeries you have all the surgeries I've been through, I have eight surgeries. I'm thankful injury are pain free now, you know, thanks to CPI Performance Institute out of Tijuana. You know, Lola and Scotty, they hooked me up. They took Care of me. It's been a year now since I've been pain free. I went through 15 years. The ending of my career of I.
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Tito Ortiz
So good, so good, so good.
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Tito Ortiz
Having to be able to sleep on my back. I could only sleep on my left side. I couldn't sleep on my right side. I couldn't sleep on my stomach. Now I sleep in my stomach. I have no problem at all. Zero pain. Almost 100 range of motion. I've had T3, T2, T2, T1, T1, C7 disc replacement, C7, C6 view, C65 view, C5, C4 disc replacement.
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Interviewer / Host
Oh my gosh.
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Tito Ortiz
And I'm pain free thanks to cpi. You know, Sailor Performance Institute do their job the correct way and we're trying to get to here in the United States. We're working on it. You know, hopefully RFK will help us get it here. I think us fixing Americans is important instead of going out of the country to get fixed.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah, that's not. Shout out to Scotty. He's been on the show. Solid dude, man.
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Tito Ortiz
Changing lives with that and I'm very, very thankful just with him. Last week with Mike Tyson we sat down, we're actually doing biohacking stuff.
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Interviewer / Host
Nice.
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Tito Ortiz
You know, just cold plunge therapy, hyperbaric chambers, altitude simulation machines, red light therapy. Things that this just keep us younger. But of course as athletes for us to able to compete at a highest level that we can. Thankful that I'm retired and retired for three years now. Yeah, I don't miss it. But I mean I want to be healthy. I want to stay healthy. I want to stay young. You know, I'm 50 years old this year and I just want to make sure that I have a long life to watch my children grow up.
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Interviewer / Host
Absolutely. Do you think if you had access to this biohacking technology when you were fighting, you would have lasted longer?
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Tito Ortiz
100%. I wouldn't have the injuries I would add. I wouldn't have did the surgeries I've had, you know, I had ACL replace my left knee, ACL replacement, right knee, 50% meniscus taken out of my right knee, L4, L5S1 fused in my lower back, reattached retina, my left eye, of course, the neck surgeries. But I think a lot of that was disc degeneration that I had. If it wasn't for the surgeries, I couldn't compete. But I was willing to take a chance of getting surgery, and I got surgery. Thankful that a doctor that was here In Las Vegas, Dr. William Smith, he just had magic hands. And I competed after my back surgery a year to date, I competed against Forest Griffin. It was just one thing after another. When I had surgeries done, I just. My doctor was like, dude, like, you're like Wolverine. You've recovered so fast. But I just think just a mentality in your mind of what you're able to push yourself to the limits, you know, and I'm able to pass or push past those limits and just break the barriers. And I've always tried to do that through my whole career.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The mental side of the sport is probably almost as important as the physical, right?
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Tito Ortiz
The mental side is about 90% of it. 90%, yeah. Wow. Physical side is easy because most people.
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Interviewer / Host
If you ask them that, they would say physical is 80, 90% of it.
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Tito Ortiz
Yeah, physical, that stuff's easy. That's. That's. You do the work mentally. If you can't do the work physically, you're not gonna be able to do it. So it's all your mental. In your mind, you gotta get up and you gotta say you gotta do the work. And that's probably. People don't understand of being an MMA fighter, just being a fighter in general, it's probably the loneliest sport in the world because it's only dependable on you, right? You have to get up, you have to train, you have to run, you have to live, you have to do jiu jitsu, you have to do kickboxing, you have to do wrestling. Then you got to mix them all into the week and make sure you eat correctly. During my time, you know, we didn't have health nutritions. I had a strength conditioning guy. I had a Boxing trainer. I did all the wrestling myself. I had a couple guys that I did jiu jitsu with. That was it. Nowadays, they got nutrition, they got conditioning guys, everyone. And pretty much, to me, it seems like a little bit of laziness, because they don't want to learn it themselves. Why wouldn't you want to learn to yourself, to understand your body, to do the right things at the right time, and to push yourself as much as you possibly can in the amount of time before a fight? And I think a lot of fighters now are starting to learn not to spar so much. And I learned that early in my career that, you know, I would only spar maybe twice a week. In the beginning, when I first started, I would spar three to four times a week.
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Interviewer / Host
Damn.
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Tito Ortiz
But I was still learning. I mean, I. My first fight was UFC 13, May 30, 1997. Fought for two and a half years. I became the world champion. And I was only in the sport for three years, three and a half years. I never knew jiu jitsu. I didn't know kickboxing. I didn't know boxing. I just knew wrestling. I wrestled in high school, but I knew how to press myself hard because of wrestling. In college wrestling at Cal State Bakersfield, they taught us how to push ourselves to the max. Yeah, in that. Be in that red line and be comfortable in that red line where your heart rate, heartbeat is 180 beats per minute and be able to recover as fast as possible. And I remember when I fought Frank Shamrock and lost to him, I think it was my fourth fight of my UFC career, he was able to recover super fast. And I was wondering why. So what do you do if you can't beat him? You join him. He retired. I went to. Was up to Stanford and went to start training with him. And I was like, what is that on your chest? He goes, heart rate monitor. Hiring water. He goes, yeah, I monitor my heart rate to see how the beats, how fast, how high I can get them, how fast I can get them down a minute, because how fast I can get them down to half a minute. And I started learning that. And cardio was never a problem with me. Wow. It was. It was a learning process. I'm thankful for Frank Shamrock showing me that.
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Interviewer / Host
So you could control your heart rate.
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Tito Ortiz
You're saying mentally, you control your heart rate also?
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Interviewer / Host
Holy crap.
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Tito Ortiz
I'm actually a head wrestling coach at Ida Baker High School in. In Cape Coral, Florida.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
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Tito Ortiz
And I had the kids mentally slow the heart rate down.
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Interviewer / Host
That's Crazy just with their thoughts.
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Tito Ortiz
And I did this. And during the Ultimate Fighter, people watching Ultimate Fighter season three, or was it. Yeah, season three. And take five deep breaths. The fifth breath, you hold it for five seconds and exhale. Now slow your. Slow your heart rate by your mind. And your mind can do that. And this is something that Hickson Gracie used to do and something I would watch. I mean, I would see this on video and I was like, I'm gonna try that. I tried it and actually worked. I was like, okay, this is great. So during fights. Excuse me, during camp, we would spar and we'd only have 30 second rest. We wouldn't have a full minute. So when we got into the fight, we'd have a full minute and we recover like this.
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Interviewer / Host
Wow.
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Tito Ortiz
I've been. Heart rate from 175 down to 105 in 35 seconds.
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Interviewer / Host
Dude, that's nuts. That's such a good skill to have, right?
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Tito Ortiz
Yes, it's a mental side of it. I mean, it's a learning process, of course. And that I had to learn so much at such a quick amount of time. I mean, I was a world champion. I still was an amateur, but I was just very aggressive and I worked really hard. I outworked everybody. I always worked hard. And I think that just comes from the wrestling base of just understanding how to learn and have an open mind and willing to learn to everybody. Willing to take an ass whooping here and there too, from the guys that come in to train with me.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah, what a statement. You were a world champion, but you still considered yourself an amateur.
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Tito Ortiz
100%. Yes, I was. I mean, it wasn't until 2006 that I felt myself as a professional and I lost the world title at that time. But I mean, I. I was just. My hands felt comfortable with boxing. My jiu jitsu game was great. My wrestling game was phenomenal. My cardio was just nothing, I mean, nothing can get me tired. But of course, I did a lot of altitude training up in Big Bear, California. Likes of Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya. Actually, I purchased Oscar De La's home.
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Interviewer / Host
Oh, yeah?
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Tito Ortiz
Yeah. Because I wanted to live where the champ was at. So I bought his home. I stayed in the same bed. So to switch the bed out, of course, put my own mattress in there. Of course, apostropedic mattress. But I would remember just laying in bed going, this is where the world champ slept and this is what I want in life. And I would sacrifice everything for that. Sacrifice for something that you want is very difficult. And it's lonely. As I said, it's lonely just to be that person laying in bed going, I got to get up and do this again tomorrow. And I remember having back problems during that time. This was from 2003 to 2009. And I lost to Louis de Machida. And I shouldn't have lost to him. It's like I should have lost this guy.
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Interviewer / Host
You felt like you were better than him?
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Tito Ortiz
I was way better than him. 100% in my mind. 100%. I was way better than him. I almost submitted him in the last 30 seconds of the fight with a triangle. And I'm not known to be a jiu jitsu guy, but I'm pretty slick on the ground. But I remember after that fight, it was like I was chewing Vicodin like they were candy just to get the pain away.
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Interviewer / Host
Damn.
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Tito Ortiz
Had to go get back surgery. I got L45s. One fused my lower back. And it was just a bounce back after that, it was just injury after injury after injury. And I sucked it up. For me, it was just taking care of my children. I have three boys. My oldest son, Jacob, who's 23 years old, goes to Arizona State University. Then my twin boys, Jesse and journey, who are 16 now. I just want to give them everything I never had as a child. I didn't have a dad. My dad was with me at the age about 7 and he left and won drug. Bender got on the heroin and he never looked back. Wow. You know, my mother took me away from my father and she gave me another opportunity in life. And I got into wrestling as a freshman in high school. And it was just great because I had someone who cared about me how a parent should. My mother did.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
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Tito Ortiz
And I'm fortunate because I caught myself in the same situation where I had my twin boys. You know, my ex girlfriend, of course, a lot of people know, was Jenna Jameson. And she was in the same situation. She showed drugs over my boys.
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Interviewer / Host
Damn.
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Tito Ortiz
And I had to make the decision to do the right thing. I got full custody of my children. I've had them for the last 13 years. And I'm raising men, you know, And I had to make the decision my mom made. I remember telling my mom this, and mom's like. She's like, wow. I was like, mom, I tried to save you and trying to save Jenna. And I could realize you can't save somebody who didn't want to save themselves. And it hit me hard. But at the same time as being a father of twin boys by myself, it Was like. It was hard. It was very difficult. And then I think that's when God sent me an angel. I'm very fortunate. Amber Ortiz, my wife right now, she came in my life, and she's been mom to my boys for the last 13 years, since I've been three and a half, four years old.
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Interviewer / Host
That's beautiful, man.
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Tito Ortiz
And I'm blessed. God has sent me so many awesome things in my life, and this is one of the angels that has saved me, have saved my life. My life is better than it's ever been that I've ever lived. Even being a world champion, even having millions upon millions right now, I'm just so comfortable. Life is comfortable, but still, I gotta work my butt off. Yeah. Living in Cape Core, Florida. I have a restaurant, Tito's Cantina. It'll be one of 10. I'll franchise it out.
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Interviewer / Host
Wow.
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Tito Ortiz
But I always wanted to do food. I did culinary arts in high school and college, so I always wanted to do food. I always cooked during my camps. I always cooked my own food. I always did Mexican food on Sundays, our cheat day. And they're like, tito, man, why don't you open up a restaurant? I was like, when I have time, I will. So, you know, November 20, 2022, I moved to Cape Coral, Florida, from Huntington Beach, California, and watch a community come together like I'd never seen before after Hurricane Ian. And that's why I moved to Cape Coral. I saw a community that was great. The police officers were able to do their job. Everybody were nice. Just driving down the neighborhood, people were like, hi, how are you? Honeycomb, you used to be. It's changed a lot in California, and it's heartbreaking because living there for 47 years, I really wanted to help our city of Huntington beach to become safe again. You know, I ran for city council. I was mayor of Pro Tem Huntington Beach. I lasted about maybe six months to seven months, and they ran me out. Damn. I was making 600 bucks a month to put my name on the line for the community, and I just was getting railroaded left and right. They were blocking all your cnn and it's NBC, cbs, abc. Like all the news stations were just saying all kinds of just off the wall things, just labeled me as a white supremacist, saying I'm a bad father because I wouldn't put my child in a mask. And I knew the truth of what was going on. And I mean, I don't want to get in this position with that, with you, because I want your channel to do well, but I saw the writing on the wall, right? And I realized it was time for me to exit out. So I stepped down for the safety of my kids, the safety of myself. Sold everything. Huntington Beach, I was moving to Florida. You know, Rhonda, Santa does an amazing job with non woke agenda there for the schools. And once again I have friends that are gay conservative. Has a close friend of mine who lives in Cape Coral also. You're gay. I have no problem with it, but don't push it on my children, right? And they're pushing on my children and. And I remember in 2020, me and my son Jesse were watching Nickelodeon and it was during Black Lives Matter came about and it was during Father's Day. My son we're watching and said black fathers matter. My son looks at me and he's 11 year old kid and he looks at me goes, dad, I thought all fathers matter. I go, son, you understand? He goes, that's not right. They shouldn't do that. Wow. He goes, they're like victimizing people. This is an 11 year old kid. He's a smart kid. Don't get me wrong. He's a very, very smart kid. But children are so innocent. They could see when things are wrong. They could see right from wrong. And for him at that age to see that, I said, see son, I'm so proud of you because you understand, I mean they didn't understand color at all until gosh, fourth grade. I mean they had a friend, I remember coming from middle school and they were like, dad, I got this cool brown friend. He's the coolest kid in the world. I want to introduce you to him. Right on. What's his name goes? His name's Tyrone. I go, right on, come out. The kid was dark as night. I was like, it made me proud because we don't speak in that manner ever, right at all. I was raised amongst that. I was Mexican amongst white guys in Huntington beach, moved to Santa Ana. I was a white kid amongst Mexicans. But I'm half white. I'm half Mexican, actually. I'm Mexican Irish, French, Portuguese, Cameroon. Wow. And Native American mutt. But I'm American down to the bottom of my heart. I bleed red, white and blue. But it was just one of those things I've seen with my kids that I had to get them out of a situation so they don't get victimized by the society that was being taught in California.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
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Tito Ortiz
And in Florida, it is America there it is beautiful. I'm very fortunate having a Governor DeSantis. There we have a new governor they'll be running this next year. Byron Donald. He'll win it. Have a. Should have. No problem. He's the same exact thing that Desantis has done. He's worked really hard in Congress for the. For Florida. So I'm just happy for the future for my children. I'm content right now. Yeah, I'm happy.
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Interviewer / Host
I can tell you are, man.
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Tito Ortiz
I'm really happy. I have a beautiful wife, beautiful home, beautiful house, nice cars, clothes, and nice clothes. My boys have nice clothes. Refrigerator's full. Because I lived a poor life, the really hard life. I mean, I remember eating government cheese. I remember drinking powdered milk. I remember the things that as a kid, having food stamps and being embarrassed to take my friends to my house because we lived in a motel.
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Tito Ortiz
These are small things a lot of people don't know about me, but my big fans, they know about the things I've been through, and they're thankful because they don't feel hopeless. And a lot of people shouldn't feel hopeless. I think things that we've gone through. Life is a challenge. It's a lesson we gotta learn is what are we gonna be? Are we gonna be a victim? Are we gonna be a victor? And I plan it through my life as being a victor. And I'll teach my children the same thing. I love that.
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Interviewer / Host
Was becoming a fighter, your kind of escape to poverty. Was that the plan when you first started fighting?
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Tito Ortiz
When I first started fighting, it was just, I guess, an experiment. Yeah, it was just a challenge. I love to compete. I'm not aggressive. I don't. I didn't like to be a fighter. I don't like to punch people in the face. That's not something I like to do. But I'm very, very competitive. Everything I do, and all the way down to playing pool, swimming, I mean, running everything, everything is. Growing up, I've always been. I'm a huge fisherman, catching fish. Who gets the biggest fish, who can get the first fish, who can catch the last fish. I mean, I'm very competitive. That's just my mentality of being a competitive person. So when I started fighting, or even when I started wrestling in high school, it was about the competitive side of it. I remember walking as a freshman into the wrestling room and going, where's the ring at? Like, ring. I'm like, yeah, like wwf, you know, Say your prayers, take your vitamins, brother. I was like, no, this is actually amateur wrestling. I go, but I could pick them up. They're on their head, right. I goes, actually get points for that. I'm like, I'm all in. So I did that. I started varsity my first year. It was just. It stuck to me. I loved it. The hard work I put into it, and I just got more and more confidence. I got attention that I never got as a child growing up. Then when I got into fighting, I got attention I never thought I even imagined getting. It was like living in a dream for me. It was like living in a movie. It wasn't real of everything I did, but in reality it was real because all the hard work I paid, that I put into it, it paid off. I became the world champion. You know, I became the middleweight and light heavyweight world champion for the ufc.
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Interviewer / Host
Yeah, you crushed it. Did the attention ever get to your head?
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Tito Ortiz
Yes, when I was defending my world title for the fifth consecutive time, it did.
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Interviewer / Host
The fifth time?
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Tito Ortiz
Yeah, the fifth time. Why that time you think I thought I was invincible?
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Interviewer / Host
Because you won. You defended it four times?
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Tito Ortiz
Yeah. Yep, five times.
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Interviewer / Host
Oh, five times.
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Tito Ortiz
Going on my sixth time, and I thought that I was invincible, and I felt touched. No one could touch me.
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Interviewer / Host
Which fight was that against?
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Tito Ortiz
I was a Randy Couture.
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Interviewer / Host
Randy Couture?
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Tito Ortiz
Yep. And he dominated me for five rounds. I got a slice of a humble pie walking out to the fight. I had 20 of my friends that came out with me. After the fight was over, I had two of my friends, actually. My head coach and my best friend was with me. Everybody else Left.
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Interviewer / Host
So you saw who your real friends were. That's the good thing about being at rock bottom, though, right?
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Tito Ortiz
Yep. And those are the things that are life that'll challenge you to see what type of character you truly are. It's the challenge from God. I believe God will challenge me. And he's challenged me over and over and over and over again. But once again, I take as a challenge and I see what type of character I am, what type of person I am, how much heart do I have, how much do I care about my life and the people that are around me, how much I care about my family's life, my children's life? It's important to me. It's very important to me. At the end of the day, I have two things for the rest of my life. And that's my word of my name. That's it. You know, I'm never going to tarnish my name. And I'm always going to keep my. My word strong. I always keep my word.
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Interviewer / Host
Word is really important to me as well. What. How do you handle when someone goes against their word with you?
- [23:20]
Tito Ortiz
So I'm an Aquarius. Same. I mean, I. I cut them out pretty damn quick.
- [23:24]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
- [23:25]
Tito Ortiz
I just. To me, it's not worth it, you know, I'll give a guy two chance. Two chances I don't give you. You don't get a third chance. And I keep that even to this day of being a coach. I give the guy two chances after that throughout.
- [23:37]
Interviewer / Host
Really? Even your own people you're coaching?
- [23:39]
Tito Ortiz
Yep.
- [23:40]
Interviewer / Host
Wow. So you're pretty cutthroat.
- [23:41]
Tito Ortiz
And it's not being cutthroat. I want to be responsible for their actions, not thinking that they're entitled to what they have. No one should be entitled to what you got. You should work for everything you have. And that's life. That's living the American dream. You want the American dream, you gotta work for it. Yeah. Bust your ass to make it happen. I just. That's just my mentality behind that.
- [24:02]
Interviewer / Host
It's an interesting. Like, especially with sports, whether it's wrestling or whatever. The best kid. The mindset can destroy them, but it also got them to where they're at, too.
- [24:11]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah, I mean, I. I had that same situation myself. It was like I. I dwelled and I manifested everything that I wanted and I made it happen time and time again. I mean, it's going to buying my first home, to buying Rolls Royce Phantom, to buying my mom a home, to making my kids don't have to worry about college and Tuition at all. Just goals that I set through life that I was able to achieve them, that I was like, dude, you manifested that you did it. And I would write it down all the time. I would put it on the wall, I would put up, brush my teeth on the mirror. I mean, I would do little small things just to manifest it so much that I believed it, that it became a reality.
- [24:51]
Interviewer / Host
Interesting. So you got a spiritual side to you too.
- [24:53]
Tito Ortiz
God is with me 100%. Yep. Baptized last year. Me and my family. I'm a Christian. Jesus has saved me and he forgives me for my sins. And I'm very fortunate. I'm thankful. I'm very, very thankful because I'm a. I've been through a lot as a child.
- [25:09]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, a lot.
- [25:09]
Tito Ortiz
I've seen a lot. I, I mean, I don't wish on my worst enemies the stuff that I've seen, stuff that I've been through. But once again, it has been a challenge, has been challenged to are you going to fail or you just succeed? I mean, there was three choices in life. Dead in prison, where I am right now. And I think I made some good choices. Wow.
- [25:27]
Interviewer / Host
So a lot of the people you grew up with were dead or in prison? Growing up, Yep.
- [25:32]
Tito Ortiz
In prison and got out. Two of my friends were in prison for 20 years and got out. I would have been with them if I didn't have wrestling. Wow. My true name is Jacob. A lot of my fans know that my true name is Jacob. In the Bible, Jacob wrestling against an angel. Angel beat him and saved him. I found wrestling, wrestling saved my life. When I was a junior in high school, they asked me for me to go with them to go do a drop off, which was six assault rifles, six bulletproof vests, a billion dollars worth of speed feed. And they drop it out to the etf.
- [26:00]
Interviewer / Host
Holy crap.
- [26:01]
Tito Ortiz
And they got busted.
- [26:02]
Interviewer / Host
Jeez.
- [26:03]
Tito Ortiz
And the reason I didn't go with them because I had wrestling practice the next day and I told him I couldn't go. And I was getting paid 500 bucks. I was like, I'm gonna pay you some good money. I mean, a 6, 16, 17 year old kid, 500 is a lot of money. But for some reason, deep down, maybe it was God just telling me no, but I didn't do it. And they ended up, they didn't get out until, Gosh, I was 42. And I remember them getting out and my kids just graduated eighth grade. And I was like, my life would never even be where I am right now. Was in that one that One instance, that one conscious moment, that one godly moment of telling me, don't do it. And there's a lot of forks in the road in life that I've had that position where I was like, do it or don't do it. And I thought about the consequences that I subjected if I did it and I didn't do it. And I'm thankful I didn't.
- [26:49]
Interviewer / Host
It's crazy when you look back, I feel like everyone watching this can relate to that. Like one decision could have really altered their life.
- [26:54]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah. It's just timing. Everything is timing. Everything has been timing for me that I. I've done great things. I've done some poor things, sometimes made some bad decisions. I made some good decisions. But when I made the bad decisions, never made the bad decisions twice. I've always only made them once. I learned from those mistakes. I try to learn from other people mistakes when I do things. And I think it's just a lesson. A lot of things looking in the mirror and be responsible for myself, my actions and stuff that I do in life. Question of things that I want to do, the question of things that is it. Okay, how do you feel about it? And people like, I think I'm crazy sometimes. I don't know if it's crazy, but I just think it's. Maybe it's my mental side of it. Just having an affirmation of knowing that I am having a conversation with myself asking if it's okay to do, if this is the right decision. Decision.
- [27:41]
Interviewer / Host
When you look back at some of those bad decisions, were they made emotionally?
- [27:45]
Tito Ortiz
100 of them were made emotionally. Yes. Agree. My emotions got the best of me, especially during my fight career. There's a lot of bad things that I said I probably should have said, but emotions. I was like, you know what that guy.
- [27:57]
Interviewer / Host
Well, you got to sell the fight too.
- [27:58]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah. And you got to sell the fight. You know, both. That's one of the things. I mean, there's a little difference. I mean, me and Dana had her back and back and forth and I love Dana, man. I just. I wish I would have done the things at the time, but there was a lot of influences at that time and relationship I was with that kind of pulled me on the. On the opposite directions. I didn't. I had really bad trust problems when I was a kid.
- [28:17]
Interviewer / Host
Right.
- [28:18]
Tito Ortiz
So having that situation and having so much money in front of me. The trust issue was a big problem. And I didn't trust people around me and the person who I loved. I trust. Which it should have been that way. So it was just like, as I grew up and I started learning these things, I. I really just had to make sure that I made the right decisions. And a lot of times when I compete against the guy, I made my three rules. Don't lie. Don't talk about a person's country, and don't talk about their family. Those are off limits completely to me. And I think that should be an honorable man.
- [28:49]
Interviewer / Host
Respect you.
- [28:50]
Tito Ortiz
Don't. You don't touch those things. Say the truth, lie about them. I mean, tell as much truthful stuff you know about them as you possibly can, and, yeah, get them where it hurts them where they know it. And that was just a psychological side of it, you know, mental warfare that Muhammad Ali did of getting into their mind so much. When it came to fight time, they forgot about what their game plan was in the very beginning.
- [29:08]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. I mean, the country, one. I 100% agree with that one. Look what Colby did in Brazil. Like, can't even go there anymore.
- [29:14]
Tito Ortiz
It's scary. You know, you don't want us on. Is another guy. He can't go to Brazil.
- [29:17]
Interviewer / Host
He can't go either. You don't want that, though. Like, Brazil is a beautiful country.
- [29:21]
Tito Ortiz
Brazil is an awesome country. You know, I know Vito Belfort well. I know Vanderlei Silva, Machida. I mean, these guys are awesome guys. I mean, I've been in Brazil four times now, and people are beautiful. They're awesome people. Just. Just the. The way people are that I met. We're just amazing people.
- [29:38]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. Have you forgiven any all your, like, opponents in the past that you had beef with?
- [29:42]
Tito Ortiz
All of them but Chelsonnen?
- [29:44]
Interviewer / Host
Okay, so that one you just couldn't get past.
- [29:46]
Tito Ortiz
Can't get past. And I've got past the part of hating, I think, when I accepted Jesus Christ in my life. Hate is a really strong. A strong word. But I just. I'm very hard on forgiving somebody that speaks about my family the way he did. And I gave him an opportunity to apologize. After I beat him, I choked him. In 2 minutes, 40 seconds, he comes to my dressing room. He says, tito, we cool? I go, when we go out to the Post press conference, and you say, sorry for the things you said, he goes, I turned around and walked away.
- [30:15]
Interviewer / Host
Damn.
- [30:16]
Tito Ortiz
During the press conference, didn't say a word. I looked over at him, and I was like, hey, Chel, you have something to say? He goes, my birthday was two days later. He goes, happy birthday. I was like, wow. All right. Four weeks later, Dean starts Talking about my kids, and I was just like, this guy never shuts up. But I get it. You know, he's a quick. He's, you know, he's sarcastic, he's quick on the draw, smart guy. It's just the things he says, the things that got him where he is for not being a champion. To say the things he does to champions, it's. It's just irritating. But at the same time, it's. I guess I could say it's behind me now, and I really don't. When you say people that I don't like, that's the only person. I mean, if I could be a person, I could shake his hand, but everybody else, I have no problem.
- [31:05]
Interviewer / Host
That's good.
- [31:05]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah.
- [31:06]
Interviewer / Host
Because I know you had a lot of rivalries back in the day.
- [31:07]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah, I mean. I mean, you know, me and Chuck Liddell, we squashed everything. You know, we shook hands and we had a good conversation at ufc. We talked about was really, really good. I think the last one, hopefully it comes up soon, is between me and Dana. We were really close at a time, you know, I said some stupid things at a time that, once again, my emotions got the best of me. The situation, the surroundings I was with wasn't the best surroundings. I should have been around. But hopefully that time will come sooner than later. You know, we're getting older quicker. Yeah, life's really short. But once again, it's just. That's the only one that look back on, and I wish I wouldn't have done some of the things I said or done against.
- [31:48]
Interviewer / Host
You were so young back then, right?
- [31:49]
Tito Ortiz
I was. I was learning, man. I was a kid. And Dane is the one who taught me how to negotiate. I remember him talking to Bob Marwiz to go out of UFC of, okay, we want this for Tito. If not, we're done.
- [32:01]
Interviewer / Host
So that was the main beef. It was over money.
- [32:03]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah.
- [32:03]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. When I look back at all the problems I had, and if it's over money, I feel like that's not enough, you know, because money we can get.
- [32:10]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah, money can get. But at that time, when you're making 4% of the profits and you work so hard and you're only getting 4%.
- [32:19]
Interviewer / Host
Right. Is it way higher now? I'm not familiar with.
- [32:22]
Tito Ortiz
I believe it's a lot higher.
- [32:23]
Interviewer / Host
Okay.
- [32:23]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah.
- [32:24]
Interviewer / Host
Because you were so early. They were still figuring things out with.
- [32:26]
Tito Ortiz
The company, but they were making money.
- [32:27]
Interviewer / Host
Oh, they were. So they were profitable back then, too.
- [32:29]
Tito Ortiz
They're making 70 million. They're making 70 million. And I'm making a million to maybe the biggest check I did was like 3.5. Wow. Making 70. And that's only just off the fight in general. That's not including Spike Television contract they had got it sponsorships, the things they had. I mean but once again, you can't count somebody else's money. And this is stuff that I've learned through the years. You know, it just once I signed the contract, I probably kind of. I think I blew it because I should have held out for a little bit more.
- [32:57]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
- [32:58]
Tito Ortiz
But that just negotiation stuff and that was one of the things that I learned through Dana is just hard nose negotiating and I probably should have learned it that way. At least not against him. Yeah. And like I said, it's behind me now. It's my rearview mirror. I look to the windshield, I look forward, I look in the future of my life and I'll be successful. I have a lot of things in the works and I'm just, just thriving, man. I'm just trying to live life. Life's good.
- [33:18]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
- [33:19]
Tito Ortiz
And I love it. It's just love to see the sport of mixed martial arts, of where it's been going, where it's or has continued to go across the world. You know, going over to. Was it Gazi Tab or not Gazi Tip, Saudi, Saudi Arabia. Just a place that go in there. It's blowing up. Blown up huge. I mean Dubai, the things. It's just there's so much money to be made there and they're a part of it that's worldwide. And it's a dream of mine that finally see it happening that it's going to be at the White House next year.
- [33:52]
Interviewer / Host
Crazy. I can't wait for that.
- [33:53]
Tito Ortiz
That is just to be one of the first main events at the Trump Taj Mahal to now seeing it at the White House of our president Donald Trump. Yeah.
- [34:03]
Interviewer / Host
Full circle for you, right?
- [34:04]
Tito Ortiz
Full circle. But it makes me proud. It just, it makes me happy that this year came about the way it did. This last two years came about the way they did because the last four years I seen this country going upside down and it was hard. My mother's a Democrat and I had to explain a lot of things to her and she don't understand it. She's an old school Democrat.
- [34:23]
Interviewer / Host
Old school. Yeah.
- [34:24]
Tito Ortiz
And it's just, it's not what it used to be. And like I said to me, it doesn't matter for Democrat, Libertarian, Republican. At the end of the day, we're Americans. We got to keep this country safe. We Got to keep our children's future safe. We want to thrive. We want to be the best in the world. Know the way to do that, to make sure we take care of this country first.
- [34:44]
Interviewer / Host
Absolutely, man.
- [34:45]
Tito Ortiz
I love that.
- [34:45]
Interviewer / Host
Well, you might have to come out of retirement for that White House fight.
- [34:48]
Tito Ortiz
I don't know. I heard Andrew Tate says he wants to fight. That'd be a good one.
- [34:52]
Interviewer / Host
That'd be a good one.
- [34:53]
Tito Ortiz
That'd be really cool. I like that one. I'd come out for that. Just give me four. Give me six months. Six months. Like I say, man. Thanks for cpi. I have no more injuries. I'm good. I do that for fun, you know, Andrew Tate's a tough guy. He's. I have much, much respect for that guy, too. Great kickboxer.
- [35:08]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. Kickboxing champ.
- [35:10]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah. Yeah, he's good. I watch him strike. He's a great striker. That'd be fun, though. I mean, it'd be something to motivate me to get in. Shave. Like I say, I'm 50. I don't feel 50. I feel a lot.
- [35:19]
Interviewer / Host
Younger people are reversing their biological age these days.
- [35:21]
Tito Ortiz
Well, biohacking is a big thing right now. It's huge. Things that I've been doing since 2000. That's what's able to keep me competing at the level that I did for such a long time because of doing the ice plunges, doing hyperbaric chambers, doing altitude simulation chains. One of the companies that I used to go to all the time, Ascent Advertising in Newport beach, and I said, up to 2,000ft in altitude. And there was kind of a funny little meme that's on or on social media of me talking about how many days I train, how many hours I train. Well, I'm doing this in 22,000ft of altitude. And people who are flight. Anybody who doesn't have a fight. Flying things are airplanes and so forth. You know, if you get a certain altitude that your mind doesn't work right, you can't see the dit. You can see the dials. You can't remember things. And they have actually astronauts going to 25, 000ft of altitude and trying to put squares into squares and circles into circles, and they can't do it because their mind's not working. Wow. Well, I was doing a live on my Instagram, and I was at 22, 000ft. Someone was asking me, how many days or how many. How much do I train? And I was trying to explain it. My mind was working correct. So that Was like, one of the things people. They talk. I mean, they got so much stuff on me, this stuff that I just said that I should have slowed down. Yeah. And that was a big thing. When I was young, I had a really bad stuttering problem. So when I would talk, I would stutter a lot. But then I understood how to correct myself of slowing myself down. But then when you go by emotions during the fight or after the fight, or even doing interviews, it's not easy to do all the time, right. Doing 30 to 40 interviews a day, it's difficult. Even if you're doing five or six a day, it's difficult because you guys have the same mentality, the same mannerism, exactly the same feeling as you said the very first one you did 10, 15 months ago.
- [36:59]
Interviewer / Host
No, it's not easy, man. I filmed 30 in a day, and it's. By the time you're on the last few, you're burnt. You're burnt out.
- [37:04]
Tito Ortiz
Burnt out. Yeah. And then people say you're together, and it's like. You're like, what?
- [37:08]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. And then people say you're a dick with how you're answering the questions. I'm like, bro, I'm tired.
- [37:12]
Tito Ortiz
Like. Yeah.
- [37:12]
Interviewer / Host
You know what I mean?
- [37:13]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah. But you got to have the same emotion. Like, I'd say you're doing each and every interview for all these different things, trying to promote a fight, and it gets difficult. It does get difficult. I mean, that was one of the things I did the most when I was on ufc. I never said no to interviews. I always want to promote the company of being the best company in the world.
- [37:28]
Interviewer / Host
Respect.
- [37:29]
Tito Ortiz
And it is, you know, I'm thankful to be where I am. I'm thankful for my fans, you know, fans. I thank you guys, man. It was for you guys, I would be where I am right now.
- [37:36]
Interviewer / Host
I love it, man.
- [37:37]
Tito Ortiz
I really, really wouldn't. It may be the man I am today of just hard work and dedication. Through the fight era, I was able to live my dream. I dreamt that as a young kid that I was going to be a superstar. I dreamed that as a kid that I was gonna be the best in the world. I dreamed as a kid that I was gonna be able to take care of a family that I always wanted. I wanted that white picket fence house, beautiful wife, beautiful cars, all the clothes, all the food. I had no worries about electricity, turned on food or hot water. I mean, I remember those nights where we didn't have electricity for a month. You know, crazy. We had to boil water to have hot water for a bathtub. Jeez. And this is young. This is young. I mean, like I said, this is from 7 to 13. I had to go through this. And those are the things that kids at that age, that's where they're molding.
- [38:20]
Interviewer / Host
You form a lot of your core.
- [38:21]
Tito Ortiz
Beliefs as a kid, and that's what I believe. It's just hard work of. I don't want that. I know what dirt tastes like. I don't want that. And I just. I thrive. And I try to try to tell my kids these same things, and in my mistake, in my bad, I actually give them too much. Where now it's like I take a lot of things away because they feel entitled to a lot of things.
- [38:41]
Interviewer / Host
That's the issue with kids that grow up in richer environments. The mental side isn't as strong.
- [38:46]
Tito Ortiz
And now with my twins, I better get to a point where no cell phones, no Xbox doors are off the hinges in their bedroom. Start taking away clothes and giving them clothes from the Goodwill. If you guys want good clothes, you gotta earn your grades, you gotta show up to class, you gotta do well. And right now is a big situation. I'm hanging out the kids they hang out with, and I keep telling them over and over again, show me your five friends, and I'll show you your future facts. And they don't get that yet. But it's funny because they work on my restaurant on Fridays and Saturdays, and there's friends that come in there who come from Pennsylvania, New York, Jersey, and they say exactly the same thing that I say.
- [39:24]
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
- [39:24]
Tito Ortiz
And I go, excuse me, can you tell that to my son one more time again? They're like, dad, that's what you say? I was like, yeah. I mean, they just came back from Ohio State to go wrestling, Wrestling camp for a week. And they're like, dad, we were going to the same type of moves that you would show us, but they showed him different. And it was the same ending. But maybe I just wasn't paying attention to you. Like sons. You're, like, one of the best guys in the world to show you moves, and you don't listen to me. That's being the father, though. I mean, then. And I don't want to be Tito Ortiz to them. I want to be dad. And I've always told that to them since they've been really young. I mean, even my oldest son, Jacob, when people come up to me and ask for autographs or photos, I go, no, not right now. I'm with my kid, Please. Then my Twin boys. I remember I was in my car and rolled my Rolls, and my two boys are in the back in their high chairs, and person rolls by and was like, tito. And then my son Journey goes, tito turned around and snapped at him. I go, I'm not Tito, dad. He goes, sorry, dad. Yes, I'm Dad. I'm not Tito. So that's always stuck. And like I said to them, I'm not Tito Ortiz. I'm Dad. I love that. And it's important. It's very, very important. But they know that they're not gonna follow my footsteps. And I. I tell them that you're going to be all three of them, that you're going to be a way better man than I ever was. You're going to be smarter than I was. You're going to be richer than I was. You just got to work for everything you have. You have an opportunity in the world. You just got to use it. And they get it. They get it. They're working harder. My oldest son, Jacob's at Arizona State University. Criminal justice psychologist is a major. He wants to be a psychologist. So he has a good head on his shoulders. Smart kid, tough as hell. I just want him to work hard. That's it. I want them to work hard. And my twin boys, same thing, same situation. That's why I sent them out to Ohio State for the camp. Tough camp. Three days in, like, dad, this is so hard. I go, you guys are learning. Yeah, we're learning a lot, but this is really hard. I go, good. They got back. They're like, I love that, dad. Thank you so much for sending this to us. But it was really hard, but we learned a lot. We understand why when you talk about moves and how you talk about hard work and everything, I understand now. So maybe they got learned. You know, they leveled up a little bit in their wrestling life, so I'm thankful for it.
- [41:31]
Interviewer / Host
I love that, man. I can't wait to see what you do next. Hopefully you and Dana can make up. Man, I'd love to see.
- [41:35]
Tito Ortiz
I have a few people that have said the same thing, too, that live in Florida, and I don't know. Time will come. Time will come. You know, I. Like, I say at a time, we were close, really close. I mean, I love the guy. I still love the guy. It's just. We just had battled head to head. It was just like putting two pit bulls in a room. And we're both males, and we're both trying to defend what we thought that was right. And I thought my Brand was important. I wanted to be a brand. I wanted to make sure that I make money or have nothing to worry about. I don't have to work again. I'm a blue collar guy. I still got to work. I still got to pay my bills. I still got to get up and go to work and pay my bills and get the lights turned, on, the hot water on, food in the refrigerator, gas in my cars. I mean, I. I still got to do that. I mean, I was able to buy my mom her house. The house is paid off. I have nothing to worry about there. But it's just things that I got to make sure that I still work my butt off to continue on what I'm doing. And this Dana situation, it'll come. You know, as time pass, wounds heal a little bit. You know, I'm not telling for him to forget about everything. I understand that. And I'm not going to forget about anything either. But just. Just one of those things that we're too old to pass away and go, I dislike that guy. Yeah, I don't. Never have. I'm thankful for Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta, for giving the opportunity they gave to me. They saved a sport. That what it is today. They made $4.5 billion off of it. Proud of them. That's amazing. I mean, us fighters put our life's line and we went out there, we killed ourselves to put on a show. That was my job. I was an entertainer. To me, I wasn't a fighter. I mean, every time I competed, I had an out of body experience. I was watching myself competitive compete. When I fought, it was. It was never me in their fighting. It was somebody else. Yeah, it was weird.
- [43:18]
Interviewer / Host
I had like, that is crazy.
- [43:19]
Tito Ortiz
It's weird.
- [43:20]
Interviewer / Host
So you disassociated?
- [43:21]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah, completely.
- [43:22]
Interviewer / Host
So you would end the fight and be like, what just happened?
- [43:24]
Tito Ortiz
I. I literally would have. I would. I knew what happened. I knew everything had happened. I seen everything, but it was out of body. I watched myself do it. I watched myself do it. And I go back in the dressing room and like, all the emotions to come back to me, I was like, this is this. This is the feeling in the world, like, this is great. Or if I lost, it was like I thought my life was over. That's nice. That's how I take. That's how I took losses. I took losses like a loved one dying because I put so much work into it. You know, you're taking three months out of your life, six days a week, eight hours a day for a three month Period. Up in Big Bear and you're all isolated the whole time. You eat, sleep, and train. That's all you do. It's hard. It's difficult.
- [44:00]
Interviewer / Host
Thousands of hours and blood, sweat, and tears.
- [44:02]
Tito Ortiz
Yeah. And it. It's hard for me because my oldest son, Jacob, I missed on. Missed out on a lot of his growing up because of my fighting. But I wanted to give him everything I never had. I wanted to have. You're doing it for him for security. I want to make sure he had that security.
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Interviewer / Host
It was important. Well, dude, this has been really fun. Good luck in the poker tournament Friday. No, we didn't even talk poker, but celebrity poker tournament. Where else can people keep up with you, man?
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Tito Ortiz
Yep. Of course. On X Tito Ortiz on Instagram. TD Ortiz. IG Facebook. TD Ortiz. Steve Ortiz. I broiled across.
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Interviewer / Host
Oh, yeah.
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Tito Ortiz
Besides I Tito. T's ig. I got my Instagram back and I had to rebuild. I was at 450000 and then they took it away in 2022 for covet stuff. Few covet things. Few things for being on city council. I got attacked a few things about speaking about my children. But once again, I never said a lie. Everything came for tuition. It was true. Everything I was saying was true. I did my research and they took it away. I'm just bummed that you know if. Who's there that owns Meta?
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Interviewer / Host
Mark.
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Tito Ortiz
Mark is Zuckerberg. If you're listening, can I just have my photos back, please? I don't even want my 450,000 people back. You can keep that. I just want my photos of my kids because I don't have those photos and I know they're on icloud. I just want those photos of my kids because I had all my kids on there, how they grew up and I have so much stuff in my history that I no longer have. Mark Zuckerberg. Rlison. Please, Please just give me that. That's all I would love.
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Interviewer / Host
You might run into him at a UFC event one of these days.
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Tito Ortiz
Yeah, at the White House. But once again, I work hard just to try to build my fan base right now. And the fan base is there. They just need a place to find me. Like I said, on Instagram is ig.
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Interviewer / Host
Check them out, guys. Thanks, man.
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Tito Ortiz
Yes, for sure. Pleasure.
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Interviewer / Host
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Tito Ortiz
Thank you.