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Invest Like a Pro: Claudia Gadelha's Winning Strategies | Claudia Gadelha DSH #777
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Step into the ring of life with Claudia Gadelha, as she shares her winning strategies on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🥋💪 This episode is packed with valuable insights into how Claudia transitioned from a UFC champion to a savvy investor.
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A
Athletic career to something else. Right. And I went through that three years ago, and I was, you know, tried to be very strong because it is very hard. And I talk to retired athletes all the time, and it's very challenging. You know, like, I tell people the time, like, athlete dies twice, you die the day you retired, and then you die later in life when you live. Yeah.
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B
All right, guys, former UFC fighter that grew up in Brazil. Claudia, thanks for coming on.
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A
Yeah, my pleasure, man.
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B
What was that like in Brazil? For how long were you there?
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A
It was rough. Rough. I grew up in one of the most challenges parts of Brazil in the Northeast. Grew up in a very humble, traditional family, and I saw my parents struggling to raise five kids, you know, and in Brazil, you know, everybody does soccer and trains Jiu Jitsu, you know, And I started training Jiu Jitsu as a kid, and I saw an opportunity to change my life and change my family's pattern of life, and I decided in a very young age that I was gonna go through that path.
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B
Wow.
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A
When I was 14 years old, I was, like, fully committed to Jiu Jitsu, but there was not a lot of money in Jiu jitsu. Like, it was very hard to build a career in jiu jitsu. So then I saw a lot of people in my gym moving outside of that town to go train mma, and I understood that that was the path. I didn't want to get hit in the head, didn't want, you know, to go through everything you go through in an MMA career, you know, And I had, like, this love for Jiu jitsu and for the philosophy of Jiu jitsu, but I was committed to change my life and change my family's pattern of life, and I decided to go fight mma, and I'm talking about a time where women was not in the UFC yet. Right. So I made that decision right there. So I'm a pioneer in the sport of mma. When I made it to the ufc, I was in the first ever strawweight fight in the ufc.
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B
Oh, wow.
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A
So, like, I launched a division in the UFC back in 2014 and spent almost 10 years fighting for the UFC, and now I work for the company, so a lot of struggles to. To get here. And, you know, I. I watch people that grew up with me and. And people that didn't make the right decisions in their lives back them, and they still there. Right. And my life just has changed so much from being, like, very dedicated from a very young age and making the right decisions throughout my life.
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B
Did you move your family over Here too.
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A
They don't want to move here.
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B
Oh, really?
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A
No, they don't.
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B
They don't like America.
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A
They don't speak English. You know, it's hard for them to, to, you know, drive here, to communicate here. So they don't want to move here, but, but they have a really good life in Brazil.
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B
I bet you upgraded them to the penthouse.
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A
Yeah. This is one of the things I'm most proud of, you know, because it's, it's not even about the things you achieve throughout having through, like, I had a really challenging life growing up in Brazil, then moving to the favelas in Rio de Janeiro to be able to make it all the way to the UFC without any help. My family couldn't help me or support me, you know, and just seeing my family now living the life I dreamed about, it's one of the, the best things that could have have happened in my life, you know, because, like, yeah, like, the money I made was good in my career. Like, I learned how to invest my money, which is one thing that most athletes don't learn in there throughout their career. And, and I learned that in a very young age that I needed to learn how to invest my money and, and leverage the money I was making and fighting. But, like, what really matters is it's the person I became on the way of chasing those things for my family and for myself, you know, I'm very proud of the person I become I became throughout those years.
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B
Yeah. So you had to grow up quick.
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A
Yeah, I had an. At 14, I was like, fully committed to Jiu Jitsu and MMA, you know.
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B
So did you drop out of school, just go full time?
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A
No, I actually went. I went to college. I have a law degree.
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B
Oh, wow.
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A
Yes.
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B
Holy crap.
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A
So while I was fighting the highest level in the ufc, I was going to college.
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B
Geez. So two full time jobs, pretty much.
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A
And a lot of people are making fun of me and my, my friends in the gym, you know, the, the fighters that were also fighting.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And the ufc, they were all making fun of me because I was doing both. They were like, oh, you're not going to get anywhere, like, trying do two different careers like that. But I was fully committed to that. No distractions, no addictions, no partying with friends. Like, none of that. Like my entire life, I haven't, I haven't done that. You know, when I retired, I decided to go try drink and, and then go out and stuff, but I was like, no, this is, this is not for me. This is not me.
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B
Oh, so you didn't drink your whole.
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A
No.
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B
20. What, 25 years? First 25 years, pretty much, yeah.
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A
So I started at 14, till now living a high performance life, you know, and it's very hard to transition from professional sports to anything else. Right. Like, you build the whole life learning skills in your career, and then by the time you are 30, 35, somebody tells you, hey, now, guess what? Forget everything you did, Go do something else. You gotta go live a whole different life now. That's why we see a lot of athletes depressed and killing themselves. I know so many athletes that killed themselves, took their lives because it's so hard to transition from athletic career to something else. Right. And I went through that three years ago, and I was, you know, tried to be very strong because it is very hard. And I talk to retired athletes all the time, and it's very challenging. You know, Like, I. I tell people all the time, like, athlete dies twice, you die the day you retired, and then you die later in life when you physically die. Yeah. So, yeah, tough life.
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B
I could see that, though, because you get wrapped up in your identity as being that person, and then it's all gone. And then what do you do now?
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A
Yeah, Imagine like a medical doctor, right? You go to. Was like, you go to college and to residency for like, well, almost like 14 years of your life. So imagine like midlife, somebody takes. Take your degree and just tell you, hey, go do something else. Because everything you studied for, everything you were passionate about, everything you have always dreamed about now is gone. Go do something else. You know, this is kind of like what our athlete goes through, because you put your whole life mindset, soul, tears, blood in there, and then when you get to, like, mid-30s, you dawn you have to do something else. So it's very, very challenging.
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B
Yeah. Luckily you had the law degree to fall back on though, Right. So you kind of transitioned easier than most people.
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A
Yeah. And, like, the reason why I got a good job in the ufc. The ufc is because I have. Have a good background. I know, you know, like, most. Most athletes from where I'm from, they barely know how to use a computer. They're not very educated. And I educated myself because I was thinking about the next thing, you know. So I only. Only three fighters ever retired from the UFC and worked for the ufc. And. And only one female, and I. I am the one.
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B
Wow.
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A
Only one girl ever retired from fighting and worked for the ufc. And I have a pretty good position. And there I'm helping the community, helping jiu jitsu, helping mma. And I get a lot of joy from that.
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B
That's incredible. So Daniel Cormier is the other one, right?
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A
He works for espn.
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B
Oh, espn.
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A
So Forest, Griffin, and Minotauro are the other two.
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B
Okay, that's cool. What type of law did you specialize in?
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A
So, in Brazil, you go to law school to decide what you're going to do next, right? Like, there's. There are seven things you can do after you finish law school. And I wanted to be a federal federal agent.
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B
Whoa.
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A
That's why I went to law school, because in order to become a federal agent in Brazil, you have to go to law school first. So I didn't want to be a liar. I didn't, like, study law to follow that path to become an attorney. I just wanted to be a federal agent.
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B
You want to be a fed?
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A
I wanted.
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B
Okay.
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A
You know, my MMA career worked pretty well, and I took that path.
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B
So you didn't like criminals, and there was probably a ton of those where you grew up. So that left an impression on you a lot.
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A
Yeah. I grew up seeing, you know, a lot of crime, a lot of girls getting raped.
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B
Jeez.
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A
Oh. Getting almost killed, you know? My gosh, the favelas in Brazil are rough.
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B
I've heard about them.
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A
Yeah, they're very rough.
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B
Anything goes over there, right?
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A
Everything. Yeah, anything happens. And I saw that, a lot of that growing up. And that's when I made the decision of, like, whatever it takes in. In my life to get out of this and build a life for myself, I'll do it. And that was my thought. In tough fights, you know, when I. When I. When I was in bad situations, in fights, I was always thinking about the main purpose and changing my life and changing my family's not life. And that's what made me hang in there, you know, because I never been finished in the ufc.
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B
Oh. Yeah.
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A
But I had a fight where I was, like, my mind was telling me that I was ready to quit. Like, just quit, like, tap, get out of here. But then I kept telling myself, you know, no, like, you can do more, like, stand in here, stay. You can do this. And, you know, I lost the fight, but one in life, you know?
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B
Yeah, you're like the female Cheeto Vera.
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A
Yeah, that guy never drops out. But, yeah, like, South America is, like, rough area to grow up in, right? We. We see so many good athletes coming out of. Of the area.
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B
That's true.
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A
Look at Charles Oliveira, Jose Aldo, you know, like, all those guys, they grew up pretty rough. And then when you grow up, like, That I feel like, just like anything that happens in your life is just like another challenge, you know, because you already went through so many challenges growing up, which is different than growing up in America, you know? Yeah, very different in America is different than being poor in Brazil.
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B
That's one thing you can't teach, though, because there's a lot of fighters that grow up in money, and they pay for coaches, but they don't have that fire.
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A
Exactly. That fire of, like, I have to hang in here. I got to stay here because I got to change my life. Like, a lot of fighters, they get, like, knocked out and get concussions and get injured fighting. Literally fighting for 10, $20,000 because that money will change their lives.
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B
Wow.
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A
Here in America, not so much, because you have so many opportunities, you know?
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B
Yeah. 10K here is nothing.
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A
It's nothing.
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B
Two months of rent.
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A
When I learned that, you know, when I learned that you could make money with other things other than fighting in America, I was like, hey, wait, let me learn that. You know, Let me learn that white people with skills, because I wanna. I wanna make that kind of money.
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B
And that's where Derek Moneyburg comes in. Shout out to Derek.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How did you. How did you two meet?
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A
We met in a fight, actually. You know, he came up to me and, and he was talking about business. I was like, interesting. This guy is pretty confident. Like, I'm curious about him, you know, and we did an interview together, and I was amazed by, you know, how smart he is and the way he looks at investments. And I was already investing my money when I met him, but he just taught me, like, a different level of investing and making money. He really taught me how to go make money in America.
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B
Nice.
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A
I was investing in real estate and a little bit in the stock market, but then he just gave me a whole idea of what to do next and how to, you know, create businesses and stuff. So now I do a lot of other different things, other than my job in the UFC because of that guy.
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B
Yeah. Your money's working for you now, right? Yeah, yeah. Very few people get to that position.
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A
Yeah, exactly. So, like, I like my job, but I, I, I'm not too attached to. Because my money is working for me.
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B
Right.
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A
So I have the freedom of, like, oh, hey, if I don't like, like that, if it's not serving me, I can go do something else I like, because my money is good. My money is working for me.
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B
That makes sense.
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A
Pretty good position to be in.
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B
Yeah. Who do you have as your, Your goat for Female fighters, greatest of all.
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A
Time, I think Ronda Rousey, she kind of changed the game for. For us. I was training very hard in Brazil, getting beat up by boys all the time.
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B
Oh, you train with boys?
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A
Yeah, because when I was fighting, there was no girls in the sea, so, like, think about it. Gyms didn't have a lot of girls training either. I was the only girl in the gym.
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B
Wow.
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A
I grew up training with Jose Aldo, Hannah Barrel. You'll see it Formiga, like, guys that made it to top contenders or champion level in the ufc, and I was getting beat up by those guys, like, my entire life.
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B
And Jose Aldo's beating up grown men, and you're fighting him.
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A
Yeah, I trained with him a lot, and he was a big inspiration for me.
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B
Nice, too.
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A
But Rhonda just changed the game, you know? Like, she showed everybody that in order to be a good athlete in MMA world, you have to be a product, not just a good fighter, you know? And that's when I learned how I. I told myself right there, hey, I got to go learn English. I got to go talk to fans. Like, I have to learn how to be a product that the UFC can sell.
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B
Right.
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A
Because fighting alone will not do the job job, you know? And she kind of showed that to. To all the girls. And then I. I started training before her, actually. But she went in there and showed the world that you have to be a badass, but you also have to be a product, you know? And when I learned that, everything kind of changed for me as well.
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B
Yeah. You see all the top fighters and boxers have that personal brand aspect to them.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Personal branding is everything. Right? Like, if you understand marketing, sales, and that you are a personal brand, like, you're gonna make a lot of money.
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B
Yup. Sean O'Malley's a good example of that.
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A
Yes.
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B
He's crushing it.
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A
He's the best personal brand, like, best active personal brand in MMA today.
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B
Agreed. Yeah. Him and I know Sean Strickland's controversial. He has, like, a cult following. I know you're not a fan of him.
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A
I like him, you know, like, he's. I. Well, I trained at Extreme Couture. I spent a lot of time on the mats with him. You know, like, we cool with each other. Like, I always talk to him and stuff. I just don't like the way he talks to people. I like this stuff any. Listen, that's his. His type of marketing, you know? Like, I am more humble, philosophical. I respect the art. So I don't like the trash talking too Much. I don't like humiliating people. I don't like that part of the game. But I understand, you know, that's a. Another way of. Of building your brand and making money.
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B
Yeah. McGregor did it.
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A
He did, and he made hundreds of millions of dollars because of it. So. Yeah, smart guy.
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B
Yeah. Is that your goal? 100 million.
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A
I'm working on my. On being a DECA millionaire.
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B
Nice.
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A
Now I have a couple million already. And it's crazy, right? Like, Derek always makes fun of. Of guys when we are together, because he goes, like, little girls out there are outworking a lot of men out there, you know, because I work very hard. I tried to use my brain, not just my body.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, and I made, you know, a couple million dollars.
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B
Amazing.
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A
Not only from fighting, you know, like, using my brain and investing the money I was making in fighting, you know, I got to the point where I had nine houses, nine properties, and I built a Airbnb business. And I started selling my houses this year because I fell in love with the stock market. I was like, oh, I don't have to deal with tenants. I don't have to deal with maintenance. Maintenance. You know, I don't have to deal with all of the things that comes with rental properties. So I'm just gonna invest in the stock market. So I still have six houses, but selling them slowly to put all my money in the stock market and go do other fun things, help other people. I love helping other people as well. So that's where I'm at.
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B
That's incredible. Congrats on that. That's beautiful. Not many female fighters reach that wealth.
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A
I know.
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B
And you could probably count on one hand.
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A
True, true. And. And you see, I see that. I see girls that, like, they beat me in fighting, but I beat them in life.
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B
Right.
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A
You know, I go like, okay, you beat me in there, and that was an opportunity for me to make some money. But then you made the wrong decision with the money you made by beating me, and I. I made the right decision, you know, so, like, I. I really focus in, like, the four core values in life, which is wealth, health. Right. Like, I'm very big in. In. In health, relationships, and career, you know, I'm very focused on those areas of my life, and I try to put all my energy into those things because I feel like if you got those four down, you're going to be happy.
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B
Yeah. Two million goes a long way in Brazil, too.
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A
It does.
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B
You guys are probably living like kings out there. Yeah. I remember when I went to, like, Jamaica with, like, 100 grand. It was, like, a lot, you know, I was like a millionaire over there at the time.
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A
Yeah. Jamaica is pretty rough too.
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B
Yeah, yeah, it was very rough. I think $1 there is, like, 13 bucks or something crazy.
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A
Oh, wow, that's really good.
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B
Is Brazil like that? Like, how much is a dollar worth in Brazil?
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A
Almost six.
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B
Oh, six.
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A
Almost six.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah, so it's pretty good.
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B
Yeah. Quarter mil here is a millionaire over there.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Nice. Do you go back there often?
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A
I don't go too much. I try to go to see my family, and I miss the culture a little bit, but I love the way, like, America thinks about business and responsibilities and. And, you know, the accountability. Like, I love the way business is here, that I want to be in this environment more, you know? Like, I had the chance of going to family Florida when I moved to America, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna be around a lot of Brazilians, and if I'm trying to learn a new language and learn all the things that happens in this country, I want to be in a place where I can learn, you know? So then I moved here, you know, and.
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B
Wow.
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A
So I go to Brazil sometimes to see my family, but I just love America.
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B
I love Vegas, too.
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A
Yeah, I do, too.
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B
It's hard to be Vegas.
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A
Is. It is. And you know what? Like, I think Vegas, in my opinion, is one of the healthiest places you can be, as crazy as it is, because, like, people come here to go to the Strip, but outside of the Strip, we have great gyms. We have a lot of athletes, a lot of business people that are high performers. So they. They train. Look at Dina. Like, the guy is a killer in the gym. He takes care of his health and stuff. You do, too. I watch you Instagram. You're always in the gym, always taking care of yourself. So, like, I feel like if you in Vegas doing business, you are a high performer in everything you do, so taking care of your health, like, great jiu jitsu gyms, great places to go do martial arts, great athletes to surround yourself with healthy restaurants, and, you know, just people looking to be healthy and making money, make money here.
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B
I agree, though. I know it's a controversial take because people assume Vegas, you party and drink and go out. But I don't even go out.
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A
Me neither. I probably go to the Strip, like, four times a year.
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B
Yeah, I barely go to the Strip, only for, like, a business meeting, honestly, or a conference.
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A
And business here is great, right?
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B
Great. Every time I go to a UFC or power Stop. Event. The people I meet. Phenomenal.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, it's so nice, like. And there's always a conference here or an event. Derek's always hosting dinners or whatever. So it's just always good. People shout out to Vegas, man. Yeah, it's slept on. People always say LA and Miami, but I got Vegas over those.
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A
Me too. And it's not too expensive to live here.
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B
Not at all.
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A
No state taxes.
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B
Yeah, I just got my first house.
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A
Nice. Yeah, Congrats.
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B
Trying to get like, you get to six.
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A
Yeah. You want to invest in real estate?
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B
I want to have a couple houses in a couple cities. Yeah.
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A
That's nice. Yeah, that's when I started, was kind of like that because I bought a house in Rio. I was living in Rio and I moved to America. I didn't know it was gonna, like, make the move so fast, but I lost a fight and I was getting injured so much. And when I was living in Brazil, like, we had no clue what, like, recovery is. I was killing my body all the way throughout to, like, my 25th year birthday, you know, I was like, killing my body. So then when I understood that I could have a healthier life, I moved here and I just started to understand how everything worked here. So then I rented my house in Rio and in was rented in Airbnb. And then when I moved here, I rented a house here in Vegas, and I was going to New Jersey to train with Frankie Edgar over there. And I. The house I was renting here, I was. I put a listing on Airbnb. So when I was in New Jersey, my house was rented here, was paying my rent and making money with that house. I was like, wait, now I got my house in Brazil making me money.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then now I got a house that I rented in Vegas that it's also making me my. Wait a minute, Let me buy houses. You know, this is how everything started. Like, I didn't have anybody advising me what to do. I just knew I had to invest my money because I wasn't just gonna, you know, make that money. I was making and fighting, multiply, doing that thing, you know?
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B
Yeah. That's smart though, cuz 80% of athletes go broke.
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A
True.
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B
So the fact that you have that mindset early on is. Is great.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I think if you waited, it would have been tougher, right?
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A
Yeah. If I waited by now, like, can you imagine now retired at 35, not having a job, not having any money. I would kill myself too.
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B
It'd be tough, man. So you were locked in, were you even dating, like when you were locked in?
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A
No.
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B
You gave up dating completely.
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A
Well, I was so focused on fighting, like, fighting and like building a life for myself, you know, so not a lot of dating in my life.
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B
Wow. Because those are like, for A woman Their 20s and 30s, those are like prime years for dating.
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A
Yeah. But I was focused on, you know, making money and building a career for me.
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B
That's respect though. And that's why you are where you are.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know.
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A
Yeah. Now I can go date, you know.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And go do whatever I want.
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B
I must be tough though, because you got money, so a lot of these guys you're richer than.
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A
Ah, I don't even, like, it's very hard for me to even to have a conversation with the guy, you know, because, you know, it's very hard to operate in the level I operate in. Right. Very hard to like, think the way I think and, and do things the way I do. So, like most guys that try to talk to me, I just, I have no patience, dude. Like, like, please don't talk to me because it's, it's, it's complicated.
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B
It's intimidating from a, from a point of view of a man, when a woman is this successful as you, this confident, you know, this experience, like, I'd be pretty intimidated.
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A
Yeah.
- [24:03]
B
So I could see why they're striking.
- [24:05]
A
Out and I can beat them up too.
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B
Yeah. Like, imagine that. Like. Yeah, I'm good on that. What's the next thing you're working on right now?
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A
So I built a coaching business and I'm doing weight loss challenges. But like, you know, people love short term results.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, the weight loss challenge is kind of like the, the catchy part of people getting into my business to work with me because I, I have a couple coaching certifications and I became a high performance coach. And I work with athletes too, that are, you know, retiring from fighting. And I work with business people. Like, I have a client that's, that is a CEO of a public traded company. Like, I work with bank managers and stuff. So, like, I draw in a lot of business people that want to operate in a high performance level. And I help them to build their physique and to have a strong mindset and to change their mentality and just block out the noise and go do what they want to do in life. And I got people went through those weight challenges where, you know, people want short term results. So then they come in and, you know, we go through four weeks of whole transformation where we talk about values, goal, Setting high performance life. When it comes to fitness, recovery, nutrition, you know, we, I also talk about investing in personal finances, which most people in this country are totally lost about that. Like, it's very impressive to, you know, talk to people and see how like they don't want to talk about money, they don't want to look at money. You know, they just want to work and, you know, think. They think that one day they will be okay with a life just like that, you know, and I always say that, hey, if you, if you're not assessing, you are just guessing in any area of your life. If not, if you're not assessing your fitness, you're not going to achieve the exact numbers you want to achieve when it comes to weight, body fat, you know, muscle mass, all that stuff. Finances is the same thing. If you're not assessing your numbers and understanding where you want to go and what you want to achieve. I want to become a DECA millionaire. So I have a plan. Right. Most people don't have a plan to retirement. They don't even know how much money they need to retire. Right. Like, so I like talking about, you know, the core values I was talking about just to help people to understand that being shape takes a lot more than physical capabilities. And the idea of I got to go work out. If I, if your finances are not doing well, you might eat your emotions and not go to the gym because you don't feel inspired and motivated. So like everything wraps around choosing to live a high performance life because you have a purpose, you have a motivation. Now you understand your finances well, you understand your health well. Now you can go to the gym and have peace and clarity around where you go in, in life.
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B
I love that. Yeah, it's almost like a full circle.
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A
Yeah, yeah. And you need that.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You look like a high performer grind. Right?
- [27:14]
B
Like, yeah, I take everything serious. Health, finances, mindset, all that. Do you agree you need everything? Because if you don't sleep well, it's going to affect everything. So you need everything.
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A
Exactly. So do you agree with. If you're not assessing, you're guessing?
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B
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm pretty data driven. I track my sleep, I track my blood tests, I track a lot of stuff. Because you don't know if you're going to get better.
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A
I just guessing exactly that. That's my whole point. Like most people think, oh, they guess about what's going to be next or what the future will look like, but it's not going to be like the way they thinking if they Just keep doing the same things and don't change things around and don't look at the numbers.
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B
Yeah, you can't do that. Yeah. And a lot of people are scared to talk about numbers, but I think it's needed.
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A
Yeah, it is, it is.
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B
My parents never talked about numbers, you know, and I think when I have kids I, I'll probably be pretty open if they ask.
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A
Yeah, I think, I think you should. I think like school should teach kids about, you know, investing like putting some money in S P500 funds. Like, you know, like start at your 20s, put $200 in there, buy S P500. By the time you 70, you're gonna have a million dollars in there just from 200. Saving 200. So like it's so easy to save 200 if you pay attention. I wish I did that when I was in my 20s, you know. So like every time I see a 20 year old person I go like, hey, go buy s P500. It's like, do something.
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B
The compound on it, right?
- [28:45]
A
Yeah.
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B
7% a year.
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A
Yeah, you can like, it's up to like 12 now.
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B
Damn. 12 a year.
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A
Yeah.
- [28:51]
B
Yeah. Well, with inflation now 7 isn't really enough.
- [28:54]
A
7% a year, you can't even beat inflation.
- [28:57]
B
Yeah, Inflation and then just everything's going up. It's crazy. They're printing non stop.
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A
They printed non stop money. It's crazy. But you know, if you understand what's going on and choose the right investments and like My portfolio is 70% up this year.
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B
Damn.
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A
70.
- [29:13]
B
70. Sign me up for that 70.
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A
And you know, shout out to Derek because he helped me, you know, in the beginning to, to choose the right stocks and understand how to analyze the stocks. And I, I own a lot of the stuff he owns and his portfolio is like over 100%.
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B
Oh my God. He said he's going to have 100 million in a few years.
- [29:33]
A
Yeah. I bet that guy will be a billionaire.
- [29:36]
B
I could see it because he's pretty young, still 40s, 45. Yeah. He still got a good work ethic.
- [29:40]
A
Yeah.
- [29:41]
B
Shout out to Derek. Man, it's good to have a mentor like that.
- [29:43]
A
It is important. Very good. I love coaches. I think coaches need coaches. I still have fighting coaches because I still train jiu jitsu. I don't train MMA anymore because I don't want to get hit in the head. Yeah, I did that so much that I don't want to just, I don't want to do it just for fun, you know, But I still train a lot of Jiu Jitsu. And now I've been training jiu jitsu for 21 years. So I just love it so much. It kind of like restructure you, your brain, you know, and teaches you how to deal with hard stuff. You know, by the time it's 10am and I get to work, I already got choked out a few times. Somebody already twisted my arms in different ways.
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B
You know, work is easy at that point.
- [30:23]
A
Anything that happens during my day is easy because I did the hard, the hard stuff.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So, yeah, I love that. So I love training Jiu Jitsu and I still do a lot. And I have a coach for Jiu Jitsu. I have coach for my finances, I have coach for my, my mind, you know, and I just love that idea of having people that have done what you want to do and just have them in your life to help you to go where you.
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B
I got coaches for everything. I got a sleep coach, I got a breath work coach, business coach, health coach. I mean, it just saves so much time.
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A
Yeah.
- [30:57]
B
So much time.
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A
You can achieve so much more. People think that they're gonna waste your money. No, you're gonna make more money.
- [31:02]
B
You're gonna make way more.
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A
Way more money.
- [31:04]
B
Yeah. People have the wrong mindset when it comes to investing.
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A
Yeah.
- [31:07]
B
Like you shouldn't see it as you're giving them money. You're making. You're saving so much time because they took 10, 20 years to learn all that stuff. You're making it back quick.
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A
Yeah.
- [31:15]
B
You know, where can people find you and what you're up to next?
- [31:20]
A
So on Instagram. This is. Instagram is my biggest platform. I'm working on other stuff to, you know, put my word out there more, help more people, you know, because when I talk about coaching and my challenges, you know, when I started thinking about retirement, I wasn't sure if I was gonna find something that brought me the same amount of joy. Fighting that and something that challenged me the Samuel the same way. Fighting that, you know, and I love my job in a ufc. I love what I'm doing there. But coaching people and helping people break through fear and changing their mindset and getting shape and getting ripped, it's really what gives me a lot, a lot of joy. So I wanna, I wanna help more people to get to that point in life. Because love it, you a high performer. Tell me if it's not good to operate in the highest level possible, like closing the gap between the person you are now and the person you have the potential to be is one of the most challenging things in the world, but also it's one of the most rewarding things in the world. There's nothing compared to that. So I love that. And I'm working on getting more of that out there so I can help more people to achieve that high performance life as well.
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B
Awesome. We'll link your stuff below. Thanks for coming on.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Yeah, thanks for watching, guys. That was super fun. I'll see you tomorrow.